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Roland EXPOSES MAGA's Economic ASSAULT On Black America | MUST HEAR Masterclass

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Last night we had a conversation on the show where
I talked about these executive orders and how MAGA and
Donald Trump how they are specifically targeting black America with
these orders.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Now, many folks are like, well, man, I don't.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Know about all of that, but what about always told
y'all you have to follow the money that if you're
not having a money conversation, you're not having an American conversation.
So you often hear me refer to the reconstruction periods

(00:41):
on this show, and I mentioned that all the time.
Why do I mention that it is because you've heard
me also say, in the history of America, every time
there's been a period of black success, there's been in
a longer period of white backlash.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
And see now we are.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You got people like Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Chris
Murphy and others, and who just for them. They don't
they no, no, no, no, this is not raised, this
is class, this is not that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
What it is. But no, they're wrong, They're absolutely wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
See, what you have to realize is that if you
go back to the first reconstruction, if you really want
an understanding of this, and I guarantee you if Greg
was at home, he would reach back and grab it
if he was there. If you really want to understand this,
you have to understand this. This is called This is

(01:44):
called Black Reconstruction in America eighteen sixty eighteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Written by W. E. B. Dubois.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
This here, y'all, for those of you, if you include
the bibliography, is a if you even include the index,
this is a seven hundred and forty six page book
where he talks about the period of reconstruction. What is
the period of reconstruction? It is that period after the

(02:14):
end of the Civil War when you had a focus
of the Radical Republicans, which is not today's Republican Party,
the radical republic Republicans. And if y'all really want to
learn some history, go look up Fattias Stevens. These radical Republicans.
They had no interest in bipartisanship. They wanted to change America.

(02:40):
They said, damned other people. We got the majority run
the bills through, and that's how you got the thirteenth Amendment,
the fourteenth Amendment, the fifteenth Amendment, which are called the
Reconstruction Amendments. That's when you began to look at the
Civil Rights Act that was pass asked in the eighteen

(03:01):
sixties that provided a framework for African Americans to be
able to access listendy'all contracts. I don't think some of
y'all heard what I just said. One of those one
of those laws that was passed. It was not passed
in eighteen fifty four. It wasn't around the same time

(03:23):
as dred Scott decision. This particular act was passed because
the radical Republicans understood that coming out of Reconstruction, that
the freed people of African descent needed to be able
to access the economic levers of the country in order

(03:46):
for them to be able to move ahead. Now this
if you look at real quick here I pulled it up.
You see this AI overview. The Civil Rights Act of
eighteen sixty six WILL was the first federal law in
the United States to define citizenship and protect the civil
rights of all citizens. It also was a bill that

(04:10):
dealt with economics. It was economics and so what began
to happen during Reconstruction. I would argue at the reconstruction period,
the first one is the most successful period in the
history of America for people of African descent because what

(04:38):
happens during the reconstruction period. You then begin to see
freed people of African descent running for state legislature. You
see them being elected to Congress. Do y'all realize that
which we now know to be hardcore right wing Confederate
the first state that left the succeed from the Union

(05:01):
because they wanted to support slavery. South Carolina that was
had a majority black legislature.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Because you know why, the black folks at the numbers.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Do y'all even recognize that taxpayer funded education is a
result of those free people of African descent putting it
in the state constitution.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
James d. Anders his book The Education of.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Blacks in the South eighteen sixty nineteen thirty five.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Details that you then begin to see. See.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I know, a lot of people get caught up in
forty acres and a mule, but black folks were not
waiting on forty acres in the mule. They begin to
acquire property, they begin to open businesses. You then begin
to see we talk about Black Wall Street in Tulsa
in nineteen twenty one burning down. You literally had black
wall streets happening all over the country beginning do Reconstruction?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
But what then happened? And you can look at Eric WB.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
De Bos's book, or if you want to, you can
read Eric Fohoner's book Reconstruction America's Unlistened, America's unfinished Revolution.
He has it from eighteen sixty three to eighteen seventy seven.
Eighteen seventy seven is kind of important. I'm about to
get to it.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So what then happens?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
All of a sudden you begin to see African Americans
creating opportunities but passing passing bills. You begin to see
them building things and doing things and opening schools, and
all of a sudden you begin to have white folks
who then go, you know what, that's enough. We done

(06:45):
done enough for these negroes. Listen, we by tired of
hearing about all this stuff we need to do. Yeah,
I know we had them enslave for two hundred plus years,
but can we just can we just we don't have
tied We've just America started getting white, America started getting
tired of doing things for those people. We've done enough

(07:13):
for those people. Then there's an election eighteen seventy six
contested election. Huh sounds quite familiar, and so the Republicans
of the Democrats, and then all of a sudden begin
to say, well you know what, Democrats say, Well.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Hey, I'm gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Here we elect y'all go ahead, and y'all can go ahead,
and y'all had a presidency, but we're gonna do a deal.
Y'all got to pull these federal troops at the last
three remaining southern capitals. Oh I'm sorry, I remember I
told y'all they kept saying, we getting tired of that.
See what happened was they put federal troops in state
capitals to ensure that the Southern, the Dixocrats, the Southern

(07:52):
the racist would not take over.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Oh I'm sorry, let me go back.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
See one of the big mistakes of Lincoln and the
radical Republicans. Of course, remember Lincoln gets assassinated being he
is followed by an absolute violent racist, Andrew Johnson.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What then happens?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
He then goes, you know, what the hell with that,
We're gonna return the land to the slave owners if
they apologize.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
For what they did.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So America put the folk back in power.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Who were the ones who led to the Civil War.
So what then happens?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You then begin to have this election, it gets contested,
and so then there's a compromise.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
We ain't in the room.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
The white folks were making the deal, and that's known
as the Great Compromise of eighteen seventy seven. Do you
all know what came after the eighth Great Commers In
eighteen seventy seven, the reconstruction period ended. That's when the
Pierdo Jim crowst started. These white folks were like, no,
we have done enough for these black people. We are
sick and tired of doing this. So then we come

(08:59):
around to a second re construction all of a sudden,
and Mattila gets killed August twenty eighth, nineteen fifty five.
Then all of a sudden, you have these black women
in Montgomery, Alabama, the Women's Counsel who were organizing, and
they were doing what they were supposed to do. Then
all of a sudden, you then begin to have these
black women. It was not the black preachers, it was

(09:20):
not the black men. It was the black women in Montgomery, Alabama,
who were the ones who started Montgomery bus boycott.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Then Rosa Park sits down.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Then they begin to December first, nineteen fifty five, they
begin to bring them to their knees. But understand Montgomery,
it went already Supreme Court, but that Montgomery buckle because
it was a money thing, y'all. That began a thirteen
year odyssey when you begin to see the fight over
civil rights, and you then begin to see the laws passed,
the Civil Rights Active sixty four, the voter Rights Active

(09:50):
sixty five, the fair House Housing active nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
And guess what happened.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You had these Republicans who actually were supportive of civil rights,
and all of a sudden, Barry Goldwater runs for president
in nineteen sixty four. He was a center from Arizona.
And then what does Barry Goldwater do? Barry Goldwater then
he opposes the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four,

(10:17):
that was his bedrock. King was so offended by that
that King actually campaigned for President Lyndon Baines Johnson in
nineteen sixty four, something that he never did. But they
said it was so important for Goldwater not to win
because Barry Goldwater was going to stop civil rights in
its tracks.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Why is that important?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Why is Barry Goldwater's opposition to the sixty four Civil
Rights Act so important? Because the sixty four Civil Rights
Act dealt with public accommodations. It dealt with you couldn't
bar people from restaurants and transportation, on and on and on.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh, I'm sorry. That means that you.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Couldn't bar people, you could not discriminate against people. And
so guess what they inserted women into the sixty four
Civil Rights Act. That racist from Virginia Judge Smith, thinking
that would kill the bill. It actually helped pass the bill.
That's important because you can now go to the title nine.
And that's one of the reasons why it was passed

(11:25):
because of the sixty four Civil Rights Acts provision of
the Civil Rights Act.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
So why is this important? Because what happens.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
King gets killed April fourth, nineteen sixty eight, assassinated sixty
nine Nick Thing, He becomes president, Arthur Fletcher brings him
forth afirmative action. You have a period from sixty eight
to the early eighties where black mayors begin to takeover.

(11:57):
You begin to see contracts quotas, firmative action.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Oh m, second reconstruction. We had dollars flowing after the
first during the first one. You had dollars flowing during
the second one. Say you get to the eighties, Nixon,
he's gone carters. President Reagan runs. Oh, the same president

(12:25):
Ronald Reagan, who he was governor of California running for
government California, supported the bill for white folks not allowing
them not to sell their houses to black people.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Some of y'all gonna pay attention.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
The same Reagan who became governor who when the black
panthers brought their guns to the state capitol, they mainly
outlawed carrying long rifles. It's all hell, no, you know
that was actually legal. The same Reagan who changed the
rules that caused for tuition in college to be for
you to be charged because they did not want the regular,
ordinary common man to be educated.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Man, some of y'all are gonna have to learn some
damn history. So what then happens?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So here you've appeared from sixty nine to about eighty
two eighty three, and Reagan wins in nineteen eighty Inaugury
in nineteen eighty one, what does Reagan then do? Reagan
begins to go after a firmative action programs. You then
begin to see the lawsuits happen. Then you begin to
see the decisions coming down out of Supreme Court where

(13:26):
they then begin to put constraints on a firmative action
that's an economic situation. And Reagan in his eight years
begins to unleash Holy Hell economically against black people. And
then what happens on May twenty fifth, twenty and twenty.
George Floyd is killed. George Floyd is killed on May two,

(13:47):
twenty five, twenty fifth, twenty twenty. And folk like me said, y'all,
this is the third reconstruction. We said in that aftermath that,
unlike the first two, which largely focused on civil rights,
although economics is part of it, this should be so focused.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
On silver rights.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
What happens in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd.
You begin to see white people and Latino folks, and
you begin to see Asians protesting, shutting companies down, forcing
them to make economic commitments to be change agents. And
white conservatives went, oh shit, we.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Can't have this.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We can not have a generation or two of young
white people who are reading and being educated.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
About the real history of America. There's no coincidents. The
attacks on critical race theory comes after George Floyd's death.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh, some of you may say, well, I still don't
understand what like what's the deal here, Because the.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Attacks on CRT and the attacks on.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Wokeness were all designed to drive a wedge through conscious
white people and the folk who wanted to keep the
system the same. You had white people in companies who
were forcing them ad this announced a ten million dollar commitment,

(15:38):
and the white folks in the company lost their mind
so much.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The next day the CEO said, oh, it's going to
be one hundred million.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Companies pledged thirty forty fifty sixty one hundred billion in
economic commitments in the wake of the death of George Floyd.
And then the right said, no, we cannot have this all. No, naw,
hell no, remember they twenty twenty Trump was in the
White House. We cannot have this because if we have

(16:05):
this coalition of young white people who not all of
a sudden becomes conscious, who all of a sudden becomes awake,
then all of a sudden, we are guaranteed to lose
elections in the future.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And so what do they then begin to do.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
They begin to complain about books, they begin to complain
about what they're seeing in libraries, and what then happens.
They begin to run for school board, bombs for liberty,
begins to rise up, and so they take all of
that fury in twenty twenty one and begin to win,
and that goes into twenty twenty two. It sets up

(16:43):
the return of Donald Trump. But what a lot of
people have been missing is that Brown VERSU Board of
Education decision in nineteen fifty four leads to of course,
in nineteen fifty five, and all of a sudden, you
begin to see the changes made by.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Those federal judges.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So the hardcore right goes, damn it, we got to
combat this. And the civil rights laws beginning to come
in nineteen sixty and they said, no, no.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
We can't have this.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And then all of a sudden, because of what black
people did fighting for civil rights. And then it was
black people's fighting for civil rights which opened the doors
for immigrants to be able to come into the country.
Thank you, Indian Americans, you're welcome, Pakistani Americans, You're welcome,
Asian Americans.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Because that's black people make it happen.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Then the white folks said, oh, hell no, this all
of a sudden, this multi racial America.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
We ain't having that.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's why you begin to see rich folks, the melons
of the world begin to fund, the Heritage Foundation, fund
the conservative think tanks, because they needed to establish a
structure to reframe America because we cannot have a multi
racial America.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, these people.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Are going to be in power, So we are going
to attack economics, firmative action, We're going to attack voting rights,
We're going to attack everything which is the underpinning of
the society.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
All these things.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Happened, which is why, folks, you have a Robert Mercer,
billionaire funder of Whitbart.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
What does he do? This is what he said, go.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
To my iPad A Mercer often argued at the nineteen
sixty four Civil Rights Act was a mistake. According to
The New Yorker, a former employee claimed that Mercer asserted
repeatedly that African Americans were better off economically before the
Civil Rights Mercer allegedly claimed that black people were racists

(18:48):
and they were no more racists, that there were no
more white racists. He said black people were racist and
that there were no more white racists. That's the elloneer
Robert Mercer, who was one of the biggest funders of
Donald Trump and in the twenty sixteen election, who was
the chief funder of Bright Bart.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
This election, you had Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
The CEO Attorney Point USA, who was organizing and galvanizing
young white folks on college campuses all across the country,
especially young white men. This is what Charlie Kirk said
about the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Act clear created a beast, and that beast has now
turned into an anti white weapon.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, that's and that's the reality. And so we just
need to fundamentally relook at a lot of our civil
rights legal regime. And without that, even though I don't
think it's sort of the magic bullet, but I think
without that, there's limits to the amount of progress we're.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Going to make.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's talk about discourse and dialogue. This topic would have
been even more forbidden four or five years ago, but
it's now becoming in more and more mainstream circles. Is
that because the problem is becoming worse or but our
side is more courageous to confront it.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Did y'all hear that.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
We couldn't talk about this four or five years ago
but now we can. That's a person who literally has
the ear of the president, person sitting in the Oval office.
We do not understand at executive orders that have been

(20:35):
issued this week. What the attacks on affirmative action and
colleges and admissions. They are getting rid of programs, scholarship programs,
they're getting rid of internship programs, they're getting rid of access.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
What this is.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
About is the complete attack, and this is the goal
of exactly what they did in eighteen seventy seven. This
is no different than when the white races in Mississippi
convened the Constitutional Convention in eighteen ninety and they said,

(21:14):
we cannot let these niggas keep voting. Oh, I know,
I'm sorry, Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, he doesn't use
that language. That is essentially what they did when they
gutted Section four the Voting Rights Act, the tax on
Section two the Voting Rights Act. Do understand right now
you have at least four Supreme Court justices who would

(21:35):
love to completely get rid of the nineteen sixty four
Civil Rights Act. And why this is important is because
the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act is the enforcement
mechanism that has led to all of these changes for
Black America since that period.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So what they understand.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
If we assault the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act
and get rid of that and then we completely get
rid of the nineteen sixty.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Five Voting Rights Acts.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
What we have effectively done is gut it black leadership
in African Americans from being able to take advantage of
what happens in this country. So while a lot of
y'all are bullshitting around on whether you can be on
fucking TikTok while you're getting caught up in some bullshit housewife,

(22:27):
while you're having your fucking MJ and Lebron debates on
who's the goat, there is literally, as we speak, an
entire focus to gut every single civil rights and economic
gain that we have had since nineteen sixty four. Because

(22:48):
they are pissed with those three three Acts. They're pissed
with the Brown versus Bardev Education Acts. You have voucher
bills that are being pushed in Texas and Tennessee and
other places to gut public education. What we have to
understand is there is a vicious assault to completely defund

(23:10):
Black America. So why did I wear what I'm wearing today?
We had this sister own the show. She launched her
own athletic apparel company, shoe company as well.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
So what I'm wearing, y'all, is all black owned. Well,
we have to understand.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
King talked about it in his sermon on April third,
nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
What do you think this was about? Operation Bread Basket?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
An untold story of civil rights in Chicago nineteen sixty
six to nineteen seventy.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
One by Martin Depth. This was about the.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Money, and when you have corporations who are now afraid,
who are scared to death, Oh, Costco.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Is standing up to him.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
McDonald's buckled, Walmart buckled, Jack Daniels buckled. If you want
to understand what black folks should be doing, every black
person right now should be saying, the hell with Jack Daniels.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Don't ever buy Jack Daniels again. You don't want to.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Stand with us, especially when you are a company that
even exists because a black man showed you how to
do it. We should be saying, get uncle, nearest. Black
folks should be saying, hennessy, where do you stand? Yeah,
we're gonna stop drinking your stuff too. The only way

(24:34):
we are going to counter what is happening right now,
this effort to defund Black America, is to say, keep
playing with us. We're going to defund your company because
there are companies that depend upon black market share, car companies,
soda companies, fast food companies, clothing companies, Black America music companies,

(25:04):
entertainment companies. The question is do we have the actual
courage to use the power that we have, Greg, I'm
gonna go to you.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
First, because we don't.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
This is about the money, and the money is about power,
and the power is about control, and they are executing
an agenda, a radical agenda that will absolutely do economic

(25:44):
harm to black people for the next century.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yes, Yes, absolutely, I think it was a masterful walkthrough Roland,
very necessary, an important level set for folks who really
think this is about one election or one candidate's policies,
or whether you like their spouse, or whether they smoke

(26:14):
weed when they were in Collegey, it's silly things. As
you said, the framework that you laid out really helps
us connect the dots. This entire when I call the
nasty it's a criminal enterprise. It's not an original criminal enterprise.
It is an extension of a half millennium of criminal

(26:37):
enterprise called the modern world system. This is a process
that did not evolve the entire world that came out
of Western euarrasion, where we in alcohol Europe that combines
culture and commerce and politics in terms of state formations.
So we talk about Spain and Portugal, we talk about Holland,
we talk about England and France, and we're not talking

(26:59):
about Germany because only hasn't formed in a way.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
And that's what wor War One and World War two about.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Basically, they were like, we didn't get the jump that
y'all got riding African people's back into modernity. That's what,
of course, how French is writing about his book Born
in Blackness. But what you've just laid out for us,
it's about the money. You're absolutely right, and the money
is a proxy for a larger concept of economics. There

(27:23):
is no concept of citizenship that comes out of Africa.
The inst Egyptians did not have a concept, at least
one has not been discovered yet. Certainly a concept of
belonging and being part of community. But the concept of
the civilized, the concept of the polace that comes out
of Greece and Rome, really find voice in Western Eurasia
as these people began to fight, and by these people

(27:45):
I mean the rich, the elites begin to fight. That's
what Magna Carter was about in thirteenth century began to
fight over resources. That's what drives land poor and resource
poor Europe into boats to go visit this cancer on
the rest of the world.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
And what does that have to do with us right now?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Well, the United States of America, and with all due
respect to a concept of a sixteen nineteen project, isn't
just the British in Virginia. It's the Spanish in what
it becomes South Carolina, New Mexico. It's the French in
the Mississippi Valley. It's the Dutch in what we now
call in New York that was New Amsterdam. They are trying,
in other words, to colonize the world for profit. And
when when the dust settles after their colonies turn on them.

(28:25):
The most prominent colonies set of colonies turning on the
home country being, of course, the so called American Revolution,
which was fighting over property. Now you have the problem
that you've introduced us to Roland. What do you do
with people who entered this legal framework as property.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
This is the federalist papers, this is the debates over
the constitution.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
We are not people understand that the idea that Africans
are people is a radical concept to these Europeans who
saw us the same where they saw the chickens and
the gold and the silver and the cotton and indigold.
So what do you do with these people? And here
is the problem that they had. You couldn't kill us,
and you needed our labor to continue your criminal enterprise.

(29:07):
So Rome, when you laid out the reconstruction and the
reconstruction amendments, that is the critical thing when you evoke
what is a property document?

Speaker 7 (29:16):
Understand, the US.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Constitution isn't about rights, it's about rights to make profit.
It's about it's a property document. It's a document about
free enterprise. It's a document about trade. Private property is
the central concept for the criminal enterprises of these people
from Europe and their colonies, and what they codify in

(29:38):
the three branches of the Federal Constitution is a concept
of private property.

Speaker 7 (29:43):
But one problem.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
You got four million of us by the eighteen sixties,
and we're not going into that good night quietly. And
you're in a global system where you want to expand
and everybody else is in the game of exploitation. So
when that civil war is over and we fought our
own way out of the civil war, the South wants
to continue to profit. The North is trying to keep
it together. That's what Abraham Lincoln is trying to do.

(30:06):
But ultimately the decision of slavery, that decision was called
because we who remember, came into that conflict as so
called contraband, meaning what property. We took the step to
free ourselves. That's what as you say d voices writing
about in Black Restruction in America, the Civil Rights Act
of eighteen sixty six, you see the conflict codified. Why

(30:27):
because they're saying that African people coming into this now
will have a concept of citizenship to beat back that
dread Scott concept where Toddy doubles down on the idea
that with property.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
They say, part.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Of that language, which is why Byron Allen seized on it,
is that we will now have not just political rights,
but the right to make and enforce on tracks. Now
Africans are in the legal universe no longer as property. Sure,
citizenship is emerging, but now there's an economic state. This
is a problem, but problems codified in the fourteenth Amendment.

(31:03):
But watch what happens last and you've gone through the history.
So I'm not going to repeat that. I'm just going
to fast forward now to Lewis Path, who I know
you've talked about many times that Pal memorandum that he
writes when he's in the Chamber of Commerce in the
United States living in Northern Virginia, and he says, since
this civil rights movement has seen these African people attempt

(31:23):
to assert a concept of citizenship that they should never
have had, and since the Fourteenth Amendment has been eviscerated,
as Duvoicce writes about, and then used to extend the
economic contracts through the idea that corporations are legal entities
in the form of people.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
That's what they used the fourteenth Amendment for.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Since they've been eviscerating, since they had a reconstruction, Lewis
Pal says, we've got to now claw back the concept
of private property, claw back the idea of free trade
and commerce.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
And three years later.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
The Heritage Foundation is created and the first of Project
twenty twenty five, the first mandate for Leadership is created.
And so in with this what you have done, Roland
is put it where the goats could get it, as
Joe Madison would say, in a global system that is
built on the concept of property dispossession and taking other

(32:18):
people's labor, other people's land.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
That's why we're here having this conversation in English.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
The thing that has become ungovernable is the concept that
whiteness can continue to run the world. They have no
choice but to do what they are doing right now,
because the only way you can maintain some kind of
political apparatus to keep this going is to ground it
in an irrational, vive driven concept of whiteness and the elites,

(32:45):
whether be Elon Musk, who will never get out of
bed with China, this is what this electric vehicle stuff
is about, because he's over there right now, back and forth.
Whether it be the other billionaires who could give a
damn about citizenship or anything else. Their concept is global,
whether it be Jeff Bezos, Mark zuck Berg, or anyone else.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
At the center of this is this unruly.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Group of people, these Africans, these indigenous people, these people
who simply refuse to die and refuse to go away.
You cannot pour your hopes and dreams into this concept
of the United States. Which you have to pour your
hopes and dreams into is yourself. And take a page

(33:24):
from every other group in this five hundred year fight
who have put themselves first, and then you stand from
a position of strength to begin to negotiate. But you
talking the language they don't understand. You start talking about
we are Americans, We're better than this.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Nah, and you just walked us through.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Why see, people.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Literally don't even realize how they get played Nola. This
is what the twice impeached, crimly convicted felon in chief
said on Monday at the Insurrection Fest at the US Capitol. Guys,

(34:07):
the video from the inauguration, you had it up earlier. Yes,
the video from the inauguration. They question, will he thanked
black people.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
We had a powerful win in all seven swing states
and the popular vote we won by millions of people
to the black and Hispanic communities. I want to thank
you for the tremendous outpouring of love and trust.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
That you have shown me. With your vote.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
We set records and I will not forget it. I've
heard your voices in the campaign, and I look forward
to working with you in the years to come. Today
is Martin Luther King Day and his honor. This will
be a great honor, but in his honor, we will
strive together to make his dream a reality.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
We will make his dream come true?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
And what did that liar do? Gut the very things
that King fought for? And if you black and you
fail for that bullshit, you are a dumb ass nola.

Speaker 9 (35:27):
He couldn't even get it out.

Speaker 10 (35:29):
He couldn't even finish the statement because it wasn't authentic.
He couldn't even finish the end of the statement that
we're going to make his dream come true.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
Lies. Lies.

Speaker 10 (35:42):
And you know, I'm so happy that we're talking aboutdu
boys because you know, in the great debate between book A. T.
Washington and Do Boys and many many ways, I am
a du Boisian and I'm going to kind of come
back to this MLK, this kind of worship, you know,
at the altar MLK when it's l Mlkday. And I

(36:03):
would also say, you know, don't be surprised if they
circle back and try to not make MLK a federal
national holiday.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
I'm gonna just go ahead and put that out there.

Speaker 10 (36:15):
But you know, as we're having this conversation, you know, Roland,
as you're walking us through the different reconstructions, the one
thing that is rolling around in my head, and you know,
Greg made so many salient points that question that do
boys ask and the solo Black folk, how does it
feel to be a problem.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
It is a question.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
That's so it's so salient in this moment because what
you're talking about is Black people have been a problem
in this country since the day we were stolen from
Africa and brought here illegially. We have been a problem
because you can't get rid of us. Everything has been tried.

(37:00):
You treated us like cattle, you enslaved us, you put
us on plantations. There was Jim Crow, Black Codes, everything
you can think of.

Speaker 9 (37:13):
We have survived and every time we.

Speaker 10 (37:16):
Surpassed a little bit of surviving and maybe get to thriving.
To your point, it is completely taken away from us.
And you know, I have posted something on my Instagram,
not the popular speeches from MLK, but it was this
one quote that he said, basically, how dare you ask
of a man to pull himself up by his bootstraps

(37:39):
when he does not own any boots? That's paraphrasing, and
so essentially this is like this, this is the story
of black person, the black person in America. How do
you expect us to continue to fight over and over
and over and over when people are a constant only

(38:00):
trying to steal our boots, the raggedy boots we may
have on that we may that we are proud to wear,
and they are constantly trying to take our boots.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
And I just I'm such a Duboisian.

Speaker 10 (38:16):
I actually have him on my International Relations and race syllabus, uh,
something that I got a lot of side eyes for,
but I don't care. But you really have to think
about this in a context of what we've represented from
day one in this country. And also I'm going to
bring in Barack Obama into this, the fact that that

(38:37):
black man was the president of this country and pretty
much when eight years unscathed, you know, no major dramas
outside of the tan suit. You know, him and his
really black wife. You know, that did something to white America.
It drove them insane, right, It literally drove them insane.
So everything that we're seeing is successive. Everything is successive,

(38:59):
and you to even go further further back to that,
I always tell people in one movie, if you've never
seen Black Clansmen, please watch Black Clansmen and watch it
until the end, because what Spike Lee does at the
end of that movie with David Duke and how they
have been generationally trying to get to a project twenty
twenty five moment.

Speaker 9 (39:20):
They have been putting in the work for generations.

Speaker 10 (39:24):
They have been reworking and retooling, and this is where
we are now. We've made too many strides. There's been
a negro as a president. Oh no, no, no.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
No, no no.

Speaker 10 (39:33):
These black folks are being way too fancy, way too fancy.
We have to snatch their boots. And that's another This
is a moment that we're in right now, the snatching
of the boots. When you told us to pull ourselves
up by our bootstraps. Oh but that's DEI right, that's
not merit. We didn't deserve any of those boots that

(39:55):
we put on ourselves.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
So here we are again. They're trying to make us bootless.

Speaker 10 (40:00):
But what we do know is how to be a
damn problem in the United States of America.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
See, Larry, I love these people, especially my haters who
out seeing Larry. They were you know, yeah, Roland mart
try and tell y'all to vote, and why you.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Gotta vote and all this. Guess what The conservatives were waiting.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
For us.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
To be stupid. The Conservatives were waiting for us to
sit on the couch for all y'all smart asses out there.
Let me help y'all out. Do y'all know the justification.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
The Chief Justice.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
John Roberts gave for gutting Section four of the Voting
Rice Act. It came post election of Obama. He said, well,
since they voting in record numbers, there's no need for
section four. And guess what has happened since two thousand

(41:24):
and twelve. Our vote numbers went down in twenty fourteen,
in twenty sixteen, in twenty eighteen, in twenty twenty, in
twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty four we didn't show
up in Louisiana. And guess what, crazy deranged maga Jeff

(41:48):
Landry was elected. There are more eligible black voters in
Texas than any state in the Union.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
And guess what we barely a here fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Even in places like Atlanta, where you should be seeing
turnout at fifty and sixty and seventy and seventy five percent, No,
we're seeing turnout any mayoral elections at eighteen, twenty twenty two,
and twenty six. And so what these conservatives are sitting
here doing is saying, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
We have so frustrated, y'all. We have so devalued y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
We have told y'all how Democrats don't do nothing for y'all,
so therefore you don't vote for them, and you sitting
on the couch. All it does is solidify our power,
and as a result, they are running the table in
places all across the country. The reality is that there's
no reason Republicans should ever have a super majority in

(42:52):
North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
They don't have it now.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
But if black folks voted our numbers in North Carolina,
that would never happen. In fact, that black folks would
vote for our with our numbers in South Carolina. South
Carolina would change, Georgia would change, Florida would change, the
Mississippi would change. When Mike Spy lost to Cindy Hyde

(43:16):
Smith and.

Speaker 11 (43:17):
That special election he lost by sixty five thousand votes,
there were more than one hundred thousand eligible black people
in Mississippi who could have voted.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
But who did not.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
And so for all of y'all who love to sit
here and talk about man, you alady time my vote.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
You're always talking my vote. I don't know why you're
always talking about voting.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Now you understand what happens when they have power.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Now you understand.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
When the partments come down and they get rid of
the sign executive orders, and they begin to gut civil
rights and economic rights. And now you understand when they
change the Apartment of Justice Civil Rights Division. Now you
are about to see with your own eyes, every single generation, Alpha, generation.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Z, Millennial, Generation X, what it looks like to live
close to Jim Crow.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I know some of y'all are saying, this Saint Jim
Crow because I can go to the club with a
white woman, This Saint Jim Crow, because I can go
out and we can go here.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I can use.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
This water fountain, I can use this bathroom, and I
can go here.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
But you need to.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Understand, and I'm telling you right now, mark it down
seven forty pm Eastern on January twenty third. A year
from now, you are going to see dramatic drop in
the number of contracts that black.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Businesses have gotten from the federal government.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
You are going to see a year from now, a
dramatic drop in the contracts that black owned businesses will
receive from Corporate America and from state governments and from
county governments and city governments.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
And school districts.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You were about to see an economic calamity come down
in Black America because too many of us set our
assets on the couch, chose not to vote because we said, well,
if I don't get nothing before I vote, then I'm
not going to vote. Now you are witnessing with your

(45:27):
very eyes what happens, and then what you have are
some of these same people who I saw your tweets.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Well, I'm saying that we got to do for self,
We got to do for self.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Let me explain to you, everybody who keeps talking about
doing for self, Please explain to me how you are
going to do for self in an industry that requires contracts.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Please tell me how you're going to do that.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
If you do not have black companies that controlled every
asplit aspect of the supply chain, than you cannot do
for self. And so you cannot show me how in
America that if black folks then begin a shutout of
contracts from federal government, state government, county government, city government,

(46:20):
school districts, how are you going to do that? Right now,
you have an assault on federal workers because of MAGA,
Black people over index in federal worker jobs. We are
a higher percentage of workers in a federal government than
we are in the population of the United States.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
There are more black people who have high.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Five figure and six figure jobs in government than we
do in corporate America. So when you begin to see
those attacks on the federal level, you're then going to
begin to see Black people not be able to get
the jobs in corporate America, which now means you can't
buy a house. You means you cannot save money, you

(47:01):
cannot invest money, you cannot afford to send your kids
to college. And then when they cut pail grants, you
can't send your kids to college.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
J HBCUs because you don't you don't have.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
A seventy five and eighty and one hundred thousand dollars
a year job. Because now what are you gonna be
able to do? And so I need people to understand, Larry,
this is what happens when you choose not to exercise
that one basic power of voting, Then what you begin
to do is lead to an economic catastrophe in the

(47:31):
black community.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
And all of the work that people.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Put in to create, even what we got, which was
not perfect, we are about to see. And I'm telling
y'all it's happening. We are about to see not an
erosion of what we built up, you are about to
see an economic cotesh that will take another century to rebuild.

Speaker 12 (48:09):
You know, Roland, you you know, give the harsh reality
for where we are right now, as you know in
terms of the Black community, and essentially before the election,
you know, you know, people dismissed a lot of racist
rhetoric and said it was it was nothing ignored, It
won't have any impact about our livelihood. But some folks,
particularly I'm talking to the brothers out there, twenty twenty

(48:30):
one percent of brothers who voted in the wrong direction. Essentially,
what you've you believed is that it's okay to be
like a lived in hostage. Because that's essentially where happening is.
Black folks will be like lived in hostages. Because you
talked about the economic impact, and this is connected to
the political impact. I also want to mention when you
provided that timeline, one of the things we need to do.

(48:51):
What's really important is folks need to make sure they
educate themselves. So I'm going to recommend you read like
just Permanent Interests by former Congressmen and CBC when it
found as a CBC William Clacy, William I'm senior in
terms of understanding it in terms of where we started,
where we.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
Are as a black community.

Speaker 12 (49:10):
And so you rolling your point about how long this
is going to take in terms to to reverse all
these these issues that we were going to deal with
as a community. And I don't think folks are really prepared.
You know, we've seen in the last forty eight hours.
It's essentially kind of like a shock and all in
terms of the executive orders. But we talk about there's

(49:32):
a significant number of black folks who work for the
federal Groupment, not only in the DC area without the
United States, and so you see essentially put out a
rat request if there are any DEI programs that they
think they missed, they if you don't report it, they're
going to fire you too. So now you're going to
have folks turn on other people who maybe have nothing
to do with DEI, submit that people's names and they

(49:53):
may lose their job. And of course these folks can
be disproportionately black. So what does that leave many people
in our black community? In our community A release to economics.
The other thing about high rolled in terms that we
talked about this historical nature about issue about racism in
America is I need the folks to go back and
check out the debate between you know, you know, we
had the debate in Cambridge at Massachusetts between Baldwin and

(50:14):
Buckley in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
The same the same Buckley who supported the civil rights
at on tail Barry Goldwater wrote his book The Conscious
of a Conservative Right, and so.

Speaker 12 (50:26):
The title of the debate was the American Dream is
at the expense of the American Negro And like many people,
I've seen it a number of times, but I need
some folks to go back and watch that that important debate.
And we know Buckley is is kind of the father
of the modern conservative you know, you know network we
see today. But it's really important in terms of historically
for black folks to understand that the fight that we

(50:46):
were undergoing now has consistently happened for centuries, but at
least at some point particularly, I said, I talked about
earlier with the Great Society programs, that we had some
kind of success in terms of any Jim Crow and
then we've seen some other opportunities. We talked about the
election of President Obama obviously some economic growth, Black folks
had the opportunity to go to any higher education institution

(51:07):
they want to. But then folks said that's too much
and we need to dismantle all of that. So what
you're seeing is a complete reversal of all the success
that we've seen over the last several decades. And I
don't and folks are unprepared for it because they thought that,
you know, this is all you know, smoke cameras, this
is all a game. No, we're in it now, and

(51:28):
so what are we prepared to do because we have
to continue to keep fighting, but we need to make
sure we have obviously some policies in place in terms
of initiatives, in terms of what we do strategical addresses,
because it is going to be a twenty four seventh
fight to make sure that we maintain a minimum of
some of the things we've we've gained of the last
several decades, and then make sure not too many of

(51:51):
these provisions are reversed, and then fight over the next
several years, really for the next several generations for new
the new laws to make sure that could counter a
lot of the challenges we've had.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
See the Maske right. But see and see.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
The mistake that people are making is y'all are looking
at this through a democratic and a republic lens.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I don't look at this stuff through a democratic and
a Republican lens. I look at this through a black lens.
I look at this through the eyes of a black man.
I'm looking at policies and I'm and I look at
how people operate.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Go to my iPad, y'all. If you don't.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Understand today's modern Republican party, this is the book that
changed it. All Bury Goldwater and The Conscious of a Conservative.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
What does it say? Right here? Edited by C. C.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Goldwater right, with a new forward by George F. Wheel
and a new afterword by Robert F.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
See a whole bunch of y'all Oh, I saw a
bunch of y'all entertainers too. Y'all were talking about y'all
were supporting Robert of Kennedy and you didn't even realize
the game that he was running. Y'all didn't realize that.
And I saw some of y'all man well, commlass, she
should have she should have made outreach the Robberty of Kennedy.

(53:22):
Why everybody knew how RFK Jr. Was See y'all ain't
see falling, y'all falling for the okie dog.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
When you are making a decision who to vote for.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
You make a decision based upon what I see, what
I hear, how things are operating.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Look at this here, all of these.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Donald Trump said I will end the war in Ukraine
in twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Y'all fell for it. Y'all sit here, and y'all fall
for all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Not even remotely realizing what is going on. You don't
even understand again, what is happening? Because you know what
I hear a lot of our people. I don't read
I don't watch the news. I don't read stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
So how in the hell can you be informed if
you don't know, if you have no idea of what
is happening, even in the world. Oh, I see the numbers.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I see the numbers, and let me be real clear,
let me be real clear.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
This is this is not a shot at folks, I know. Oh,
but I'll see y'all.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Love and shenanigans and sports YouTube channels and commentaries.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Everything is fun. But let me help y'all out. Let
me help, y'all, do I still have that? Let me
find it. Let me see if I can find it
on Facebook. I'm sorry. This actually was posted just yesterday.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I'm trying to pull it up right now, and it
showed all of the folks who are getting offer letters
rescinded for jobs. Are y'all aware that there were scholarships
that were awarded to black folks and others that are

(55:39):
now being rescinded. Are y'all aware that there are people
who had jobs in the Department of Veteran Affairs where
we're trying to take care of America's troops, and they
are rescinding jobs for those people. Oh, if y'all want
to have the conversation, we can. And so what is

(56:01):
happening before our very eyes? We are literally seeing massive
changes take place, and some of us are just joking
and playing and having so much fun. But I'm warning you,
I'm warning you, and they're not understanding this, Nola.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
They're targeting black.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
PhDs, they're targeting folks with masters, They're targeting every single
one of the programs. Look, we had some simple minded
negro in the chat. Yeah, I voted for Harris. But
but Rowland Martin was talking down.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
To the regular people in the streets.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
And I said, no problem, Pat the fifty five, you
can kiss my ass because see, I can guarantee you.
I can go in the streets and can see. I
know what I'm told. I know there are barber shops
that are streaming hours show in the barber shops. I

(57:11):
know because I get the letters and the brothers who
were in prison stop me and saying, man, I got
through prison watching you. See, y'all can sit here with
that bullshit all you want.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
To, Oh, you the Bulet and y'all talking dug That
is dumb as hell.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Because first of all, right now, it's fifty five hundred
people who are watching YouTube right now, Hey, dumb ass,
it's only five thousand Bulet members. So guess what, I
guarantee you. The entire Boulet ain't watching me right now.

(57:49):
But see, Noah, that's the simple simon shit that some
of these folks don't realize. And while they sitting here
yelling about your your.

Speaker 13 (57:59):
You and you and the Boulet, you ain't you ain't
talk to You ain't talk to people you ain't talked
to regularly guess what you getting jet the programs that
are happening.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Oh, these things are going down as we speak. No, look,
you are hearing from these people. You are hearing from
law you I guarantee you are hearing from long serving
diplomats in the State Department, people who have given their
lives to the federal bureaucracy. People are who believe in
what Ralph Bunch was doing, the first African American to

(58:32):
win a Nobel Peace Prize, who are summarily being dismissed
because what they say. In fact, y'all, y'all don't even
do y'all have the clip what Donald Trump said he
could tell who's an illegal immigrant?

Speaker 7 (58:49):
Play it.

Speaker 14 (58:51):
Open borders with people pouring in, some of whom I
won't get into it. But you can look at them
and you can say, could be trouble, could be trouble.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You can look at them and tell you could be trouble.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
That's what they are saying right now to black people
in the federal government.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Nolah.

Speaker 10 (59:14):
First and foremost, it's just plain o old school racism,
no more, no less, just plain old school racism.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
Nothing new.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
But you know, one of the most successful tricks ever
played on black folks is to convince a large population
of us that education does not matter. Why do you
think people work so hard trying to convince people that
higher education does not matter. It's a reason, it's a
reason as you alluded to earlier, Roland, as you were

(59:43):
talking about Ronald Reagan and you know, raising the price
of education. My parents met at LSU, the New Orleans
campus which is now U and O, and my daddy
always tells his story about how he paid my mom suition.
He paid my mom's suition out of his pocket. And

(01:00:06):
then fast forward what fifteen years later, you have to
take out a second mortgage to send your child to school,
or that child gets in debt starting out their professional careers.

Speaker 9 (01:00:22):
Right, So.

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
This this this conversation about oh you up any negroes, you know,
trying to bring back the talented tenth and all that stuff.
At the end of the day, it is so easy
rolling and everybody on this panel to my colleagues to
seduce angry, ignorant people. And I'm not calling folks out

(01:00:44):
there ignorant, but what I'm saying is it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I'm calling ignorant ignorant.

Speaker 9 (01:00:49):
Go ahead, I'm gonna come in this. I knew you
were gonna come.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
In I'm calling ignorant, isn'it?

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
I knew I could rely on you for that assist.
What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is is part
of the strategy. It's part of the strategy to target
a certain population because they they are thinking of you
as ignorant, right, they are thinking of you as gullible.
And the social sciences it's called conditioning, right, so you

(01:01:16):
you you condition people to respond the way that you
want them to respond. And that is what we are seeing.
And we saw so much of it Roland. We saw
so much of it over you know, this administration, especially
especially during those one hundred and seven days with Kamala,

(01:01:36):
there was so much debate, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:01:39):
There there were people that were mad that she spent
a lot of time at.

Speaker 10 (01:01:42):
The HBCUs that it was to elite, it was to elit,
that it was too much about divine nine, too much
about divine nine.

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
Okay, that's fine, maybe maybe not.

Speaker 10 (01:01:52):
But the thing that has always bothered me, and I've
sit to tin Toes down on this when people try
to push back and say, well, not everybody wants to
have an education. Education isn't for everybody. And I'm like, okay,
I'm not trying to run a race with no shoes on.
I'm just not, you know, like I. But I come
from a community in New Orleans where higher education was

(01:02:14):
that's what you do. You can get married, but you
for show going to college.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:02:19):
So I am grateful to my community for that. But
this debate, Roland, I'm telling you, it is something for me.
As an educator, I have dedicated my life to education,
and it hurts me sitting here as a black woman
that somehow we have become the enemy. That the black expert,
particularly all experts right now, are pretty much lined up

(01:02:42):
against the wall, you know, and they're ready to kind
of like. But when you're black and an expert, and
when your own community doesn't have your back, somehow you
become the enemy. You have been conditioned to celebrate the athlete,
to celebrate the entertainer. But us, three black ass is

(01:03:03):
sitting up here, Oh no, not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Us support the work that we do. Joe and I
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Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
You heard we just talked about there, folks, I can't
reiterate this enough. Listen to me, clearly, I cannot reiterate
this enough. When you've got technology companies running scared, when
you've got legacy media not doing their job, when you've
got black on media that is disintegrated. Now is more

(01:03:30):
than ever for us to have independent media that cares
about the truth, that is willing to say what needs
to be said. So when you support Roland Martin Unfiltered
this show, when you support the Blackstar Network, you're not
just supporting me, You're supporting the other shows.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Our goal is to add.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Two more shows this year. We want additional shows. We
want more weekly and daily shows because we want to
be able to speak truth to power. We want to
be able to say what is necessary where other people
are scared, and when you are scared, when you're looking
over your shoulder, Oh my god, that advertising contract is
not going to come in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Well, guess what a lot of these major agencies they're
not talking. They're not even supporting us anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
You know, in six years of doing this show, Group
M hasn't done a damn thing with us, Poplicis hasn't
done anything with us. You've got Horizon, You've got all
of these folks. They haven't done jack and so we
are calling it like we see it, and we're speaking truth,
and unlike some of these other so called progressives and

(01:04:36):
people who believe in truth, I'm not running around trying
to kiss Maga ass and kiss Trump's ass. I won't
be going to mar Largo, not for a damn thing.
And so this is about us being able to speak truth.
So when you support this show on this network with
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Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Because we are trying to build something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
It is bigger and broader and actually it has the
courage to say what needs to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Be said even when it makes other folks uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
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