July 12, 2024 • 35 mins
In episode 25, Gandhi talks to Luann de Lesseps of Bravo’s The Real Housewives of New York City. Luann speaks candidly about her long-time feud with former housewife/castmate, Bethenny Frankel, and their recent explosive Hamptons run-in. She also reveals what REALLY happened with the pirate in St. Barths, gives some scoop on her current dating life, and plays a saucy game of “F, Marry, Kill."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Why don't we just start? Do you want to start?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, in the middle of nowhere and they're like, so
you like.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
When people come up and say, oh my god, it's
count Let me take a picture.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No, I love, but I'm in a remote, random place
on a boat. I'm happy for myself for you. Guess what.
Nobody takes me down? You better?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can I start?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Can I start with you? Okay? I am very excited
about this guest because I have never seen so much
excitement from the staff here as I have for land
A Lessa. Very nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you, Jeling. It's countess.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, I'm glad you said that because from Countess.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Lu like the intro because people love using the title
more than I do. Okay, my friends call me lou
so you are my friends.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Lou So. I have a question about the whole countess thing.
Though you've dropped countess, what do you mean, No, it's
still countess?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well hell yah, I mean I have seventeen years of
marriage and two children with the count so that counts well.
And it's my cabaret show is Countess, Luanne. It's you know,
that's my That's where I go with Countess Luan, that's
what and I'm keeping.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It absolutely, I'll get it tattooed on me. Countess Gandhi doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Sound a good idea. I never thought about that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh do you have any tattoos?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I do one?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh what is that? Is that a lotus?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It is a lotus.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's a nice one.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Because lotuses grown deep dark places and then they have
a beautiful flower. So you know, I've gone to deep
dark places, especially in my career. Okay, and on the show.
And guess what, I rose like a phoenix to the
cabaret stage.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And by the way, that is Diamond. Diamond has been
waiting on this maybe her entire life, probably to sit
here and talk to you. Every time your name is mentioned.
This is what happened.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
She had silhouettes and fireworks every single live Oh, who's
gonna bring the diamonds me?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm like floored because you are just as fun in
person as you are on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh honey, can we turn up together because I'm into it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Speaking of a good time. Number one, I'm sure you
already know this. You were picked as the favorite housewife
of all of the forty six housewives in the franchise.
I'm understanding why. Well, also, you were talking about you
had a really good time last night. Speaking of having
a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I went to see Cabaret on Broadway with Eddie Redmain
and bb Newarth Darling. It does not get better than that.
It's one of the best things I've ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And then we went out and partied.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
If you can't see her right now, she is currently
wearing her sunglasses in the studio, which is always a
sign of a great night. Giovanni JUMPSU and Giovanni Jovanni.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Feeling jo Vannie and it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Do you want to explain to the people who don't
know what that means?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Because well, you know, listen, when you feel good, you
look good. You have to matching underwear, your nails are painted,
and you put a Giovanni outfit. It makes you feel good.
That's why I sing feeling Giovanni, because it makes me
feel good. So I sing about that, and Sheik said
to me, Okay, confident and cool passion is key. Live
(03:32):
the life you want to live. There's no sympathy.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So you mentioned something as soon as you came in,
because I pronounced the word water a little weirdly, just
messing around, and you said you sound like my German boyfriend.
Who is this German boyfriend? Do people know about him?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I can't tell you. It's it's secret. It's a secret
because mystery is everything. Does everyone have to know what
you're doing all the time?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Film?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, no, I'm not in the Housewives anymore, that's true.
So guess what Now I get to share what I feel.
Now I'm dating, I mean good time. But this one
in particular I love because he's European, right, Okay, I
go European. Okay, the Count Jacques Well and Tom is
a whole nother story, but that's okay. I brought up
(04:17):
the dirty word, Tom did.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And I love that for you. But here's my question.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I didn't love it for me. I'm loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I didn't love it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes, you can, you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Mary f kill. Yeah. My new cabaret show and tour
is all about there's men that I would marry. They
give me such a thrill. There's men that I would
f and men that I would kill. Right, So it's
about we're not killing anybody but the ones we want
to get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Absolutely right. Here's my question. Can you still see his
terrace from your apartment?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh my gosh, how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I want to burn down the trees.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Imagine living in a beautiful apartment, You're having a great day.
You look out the window and you can see your
exus terrace.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, but guess what. I don't give it a second
thought because I don't care. Oh, I've moved on. I
don't live in regret, and I don't live in the past.
I live in the in the moment. So I don't
worry about the past because it's gone. Yeah right, And
I don't worry about the future. Like when I do
my shows, people like, aren't you nervous? Like, not really,
because I don't think about it until I get on stage.
(05:32):
Then I'm in.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Does anything make you nervous?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Sure, you know, butterflies are good for shows, you know.
Of course. I have a little nervous before I get out,
But once I'm there, this is my playground. And that's
what I love about cabaret because I get to do
whatever I want. I can say whatever I want, I
can play any music I want. You can't do that
on TV. So people think they know my cabaret show
(05:57):
from the show. Well, it's not about my show, it's
about the drama. It's around the cabaret show. Right when
they come to the show. They come into Toyota and
they drive out in a rolls.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Royce, Oh you better, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And they have no idea what to expect. And guess what,
I blow their fucking minds. I believe that because I
do a fantastic My director, Richard J. Alexander, Oh, just
Kristin Chenowith, Barbaras, Royce and Bette Miller, he's worked with
all of them, and he's a fan of mine. Here
he says me, it's so good. He has countess. I
came here not expecting very much from you, But guess what,
(06:31):
you fucking blew my mind. First of all, you can say,
which people always say I can't. Well, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you you're funny, and you wear a dress like
no woman I've ever seen in my lifetime feel and
jove Vannie. So guess what. People don't know what to expect,
and I deliver because I work really hard on cabaret.
That's I love cabaret. That's I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So where did this all come from? Because I was
looking at your bio here you've done everything from being
a career nurse, a model, an actress, an author, a philanthropist,
a TV star, and now successful cabaret entertainer and singer.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Where'd you get that list? I'm joking because it's all true,
So I'll tell you where it came from. So a
very old friend of mine said, Lou, you love to
host parties, you love to tell jokes, and I've got
some sick jokes and you're funny. You're funny cabaret jokes.
You should be doing cabaret. I was, see oh, never
(07:31):
thought about that, and then married, married again, divorce, and
I didn't think about until later when the should hit
the fan for me, and only one way to go.
You got to rise where you're gonna go when you're
down to the bottom up. It saved my life in
so many ways because I love the creative part about it,
(07:52):
and I self deprecate because guess what, listen, people have
been through shit. We all go through stuff, right, but
I do it on TV my life with people, right,
And so cabaret was really my godsend.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Really you're touring right now with Mary f Kill I am.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I just came back from London. Wow. Well well no, no, no,
till the Swinton came to my show and then she
invited me to Scotland. What and I went?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And did you have a good time there?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wait? A great time? Okay, I'm doing Baltimore, Maryland. Where
am I doing?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Baltimore? Yeah, give us a wrong Alexandria, Virginia to coomb
in Washington, San Diego and Phoenix and New York. You
have to do it on my website to check it
out because I have a lot of dates coming up
and more to come and going back to London because
I had the best time and they they love the
Housewives over there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you said something earlier that I want to ask
you about. You said, you're not filming for the Housewives anymore,
so now you get to decide what people see and
what they don't see. When you look back at somebody
filming your life, did you appreciate that? Would you do
anything differently?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It was a job, right, So my private life was
very separate always from the house was it?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, Jilliu's com I got the episode. Let's watch her,
I'd like to sleep well tonight. So I'm not wishing
because you know, you always there's always like, oh shit,
I should have said that, or I wish I didn't
say that, because you can't take it back right. Once
it's done, it's done. So we filmed and then had
to live it six months later or a year later,
(09:22):
depending on how the show had So when I got
in trouble with the pirate.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That I got in trouble with the pirates, what happened
I did?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So what do you think happened with the pirates from.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
A viewer's perspective? Diamond And I think but Celia, by
the way, this is intern Celia, Hika.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They were on a trip and.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, St.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Barts and they went to they went to a bar
and they were guys dressed up like pirates and they
were dancing on the tables. They got lit, you know,
they as they.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do their housewives trips, and I mean a great time.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Luanne found you know this one pirate, Tomas.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That looks like Johnny Depp.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, totally okay.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And at the time lu Anne was with Jacques correct
and all the housewives conspired that Luenne had been unfaithful
I guess with Tomas the Pirate.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm going to tell you that story.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But yeah, of course this is from a viewer's perspective,
and it's that you know, she's on the phone with
her with her friend who only speaks French, and of
course only Countess Luanne is fluent in French, and so
she was speaking in French talking about her night, and
so all the girls were saying, oh lu Aanne hooked
up with Toma's the pirate, and then he was there
(10:38):
the next day.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what happened there. So of
course I see this hot pirate, right. He wants to
come and see the house we're in because it's the
best house in St. Barts, okay, and he wanted to
come with me, of course, so the girls say we're
going home. I go bye. I'm with my Italian friends,
which I did, have a whole group of friends there,
and ung up with him. The reality is I wanted
(11:02):
to smoke a doobie and he had pots, so who
has So I bring him to the house. The girls
are all sleeping and we have a party, actually him
around the house. We go to my room, we have
a little tequila and I said, you gotta go. I
have the film tomorrow and I have a boyfriend. You
(11:23):
can't stay. So he's like whining, little whining pirate, and
I said him out of the of the house. I
kicked him out right. It was a car from production
that took me back to the house with the guy.
So production knows how I got home. The girls don't know.
They're sleeping, so guess what production goes? Hey as Luna
(11:44):
got on that side.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh so production, You're saying, darling.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So I wake up in the morning. Now they they
know what's cooking in the kitchen, and I'm like, they
know no idea. How was you know? How'd you get home?
I said, well, my Italian friends, but they know otherwise,
and I don't. I have no idea that they know, right,
because the production has done that to me. Okay, fair enough,
So I guess who's coming for dinner the next night? Tuma.
(12:12):
First time ever on house its history. I got caught
with a mic pack on my back, which I forgot about,
so I called to depart. Come, don't tell them how
that you were at the house. Basically, you were not
here because I'm trying to protect my boyfriend. I'm in
love with So I kicked the guy out, and guess
(12:35):
that they invite him and they grill him, and he's like,
he has no idea what he's just gotten into. How
can he navigate all these women? He tries, but he
looks like a liar and we look totally guilty. And
then guess what he seems with Sonia?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh was that in the bushes?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's a that's another trip.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That was Mexico.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That was Mexican where we drank all day. Anyway, that's
the story of the pirate. And guess what, Andy Cohen
fished him out because now he lives in Miami and
he cut all his hair off. You would not recognize him.
(13:19):
And Andy's did you see? No, I didn't see, but.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So they painted you out to be like that. Well
I kind of did, yeah, but editing is a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Sorry, I had a question about that. Actually, So I
feel like, no, I have a press conference over here,
over here, I just.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Sit here all day. I have to go to page
six next ship my favorite outlet.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I know, Like, I watched so much Bravo and I
have always had so many questions about production's role. How
much do we not see of production really calculating some
of these heights or.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it's like you go, you don't get invited to
a party, you're a little upset about it, but you're
not going to flip out On Housewives. It's exaggerated because
we're making a TV show. That's what we do making TV, right,
So it's you know, amped up of course, and it's
our stories. But production likes to say, hey, ask.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Her about that from last night, So they're the lighter
fluid on the fire. Is any of it actually scripted
or is it more decided? None of it. So when
we see these things where you know you are feuding
with Bethany or Bethany's footing with you, that's real. That's
real because some some shit went down last weekend. Oh yeah, yeah,
how are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know, I'm feeling good because she really wants to
clean up this thing that we have.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
From what I get, I don't trust her, understandable, especially
because you've the show and she sent her daughter to
do her dirty work. That's right, and you were nice.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Daughter, and guess what when we're gonna do She's love
the girl, by the way, very cute looks just like
the father, nothing like Bethy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Dig dig Sons fired.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's true. Beautiful girl of course, can be nice to
I don't know, she's twelve or thirteen something. That was it, really,
And then Emma Roberts came over because she's a fan
of mine. She's done Exceller franchise and put it out there.
Oh oh and Roberts, you have to look for it.
She just excell franchise. Okay, So she comes over to
see me, say, hell, first of all, I'm with John Hamm.
(15:33):
You had a hell of a time girlfriend and a
lot of a lot of friends there anyway, So then
she takes pictures me Emma her daughter. You can see them,
send them to me please. Did not get them?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh she never sent you the pictures, No, because she.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Had to post them first. Cool. And she also has
had me blocked in social media.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
What do you think caused the initial block? Do you know,
like the inciting incident.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Probably from the day that she announced she's not coming
back to the show. I was like jumping for joy.
You know what, Bething's really funny. I miss her wit
and I miss those moments we had epic fights because
guess what, it's real, like there's a real feud always
between us, like you fucked everyone. I go, really, am
(16:27):
I the Kim Katrell of the family of what?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I don't know about it?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I guess I'm not afraid of her. You see the
other women are afraid of her. I'm not bring it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I love the best? She concedes. I guess life is
a cabaret.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
A hashtag.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm like, m maybe not for you, but it is
for me.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
When it comes to the whole reality rackoning thing that
she was starting to talk about, what are your thoughts
on that? Are you glad that it's all coming out there?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Are you kind of like this is bullshit with her
going after you know reality? Yes, listen, it's a we're
syndicated worldwide. We don't get residuals.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh wow, okay, no we do not.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So she's right there. I love that part. But guess what,
she burned down the house. You don't burn down the
house where you're trying to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Also, yeah, absolutely, especially when a ton of other people are.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Involved, with a lot of respect for that, trying to
help reality stars make more money and do the right thing.
But she burned down our house Andy and I spoke
about it. Oh, would she say that we are toxic people?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Do you think she was actually doing it to help
out reality stars or do you think she was doing
it because she wanted the attention back on her?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
What was option B? This whole thing is fascinating to me.
We know a couple of the housewives from Jersey and
there's obviously drama popping off over there, crazy drama that
they allegedly might not even be coming back.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, you know, I don't like taking down family shit.
We never did that in New York. We thought it
fashion shows, hecklers on the cabaretage, we invited to fucking
saying barts. Jill had to do the same wherever she
was that she got Scary Island. There's a girls trip
(18:15):
to Scary Island. My girlfriend owns the house they filmed in.
What those are my friends, Darling? They had to rent
it on the house, So I don't go on the trip.
It's my daughter's birthday and it's Scary Island, right, And
Kelly says, I'm going to go, I said, and Jill's
not going either. We are her allies. So she goes
into battle without her troops and she can't take it,
(18:40):
and because they're going to drive her nuts. But they
bullied her into that. Now, anybody would be very hurt
and upset. I get it. She looked crazy, but she's
not crazy, you know what I'm saying. But they broke
her and I was not there to help her out,
and I felt bad about that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
How do you feel about her canceling the wedding two
days two days before and where you invited?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
She was smurt of the man. I mean, I got
divorced seven months later, so I wish I canceled the
wedding too.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Did you see it coming? Did you think that was
gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No? No, I did not. No, I did not expect that.
You got to go to the hockey game after, right,
So I'm like complaining, like, dude, hook me up. You've
got this boyfriend, any single friends that are hot right
and dating? Like, be a good wing man, and then
call her out for it on that trip and guess what, now,
she has to take me to the Raindeers game because
(19:38):
it looks like an asshole the soues. So we go
and we're on the jumbo dron and they play the
scene from the show on the jump on the joh.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Wait, they played your fight about this on the JumboTron
the game while you're there.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The Rangers people loved it. They loved it. So we're like,
we're like the stars of the Raindeers game. Here we
are the housewives. I mean, I mean the stuff we
get to do is mind blowing and the people we
get to meet. And so she takes me and I
haven't been to a Rangers game since I don't know
(20:11):
how many years, and we have the best time. So
Kelly is now my wing man. I know she's single.
Oh oh, we're just coming.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So the drama that you guys have it was real,
but it wasn't deep rooted family.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It was real. Yeah, I don't want Dirk. I went
good New York, crazy girl.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fun fights at a fashion show. It's like my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And fights, And that was real. She's been saying to
me forever, I'm going to take you to the Rangers game.
Guess what never happened?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So well now we do.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We're filming TV shows on my bitch, You've never invited
me to the Rangers game. So you have to hold
people's feet to the fire. Once a while.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Diamonds over here taking notes by the way, I think
all she wanted life on I'm going to write.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm going to write a dating, a book on dating. Oh,
please do it in this generation. Girls, I can't. Are
you single?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I am not, but I would love to hear I
would I am.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Where do you start dating? Now? What's up?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well? Dating now today with social media and people on
their phones. You know they go out, they're on their
phone and they don't talk to people. So put down
the laptops, the iPads and phones. Time for a hall day. Yeah,
life is a caboerray my friends come to my cabouret.
(21:39):
So women have to invite men they were in charge.
Men are not in charge. Women are in charge. You
have to have So like the Queen of England, if
she works up to you, do not put your hand out.
Guess who does it. She does invites you into her space,
her personal space. So women have to do that. For example,
you're at a bar, you with three girls, you have
(22:00):
a table, you're drinking. You see a hot kite the bar.
He's alone. Well, we're not going to go up tomorrow
way now because a lady doesn't do that, and is
he going to come to the table with three girls?
Hell no, terrified. So we're going to send a little
note with the waiter and say please join us for drinks,
and the waiter is gonna go welcome into the cabaret.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I love that everything is a cabareight.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it makes complete sense. I know, my life.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's amazing nation.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Are you kidding me? I just played London six dates,
I mean killed it and over there. Let me tell
you London loves Loves loves the housewives. I've never been there,
so it was like I was new fresh meat over
in London. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Did you ever think when you started out on this
journey that it would end up where? Yeah, we gave
you options. We didn't want to. Yeah, get the hydraction back.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I guess who came to see us? Vogue, okay, the
pussy beyond, I mean the star Bridgerton. What's her name?
The star? Yes, she wrote a story Shoes, more shoes, Cavier,
more shoes. Have you heard it? I have not had.
She's a star Bridgerton and she's a fan of mine.
(23:18):
So she comes to meet me in London and she
writes a song.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Let's play it Oh my god, are you gonna play
your phone?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
More shoes? Oh you have to listen. It's amazing. She's
doing me.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You know when real house so I released songs excusively
for it's like my dream job, shoes, yacht caveat more shoes.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
She's good inside fives, inspireworks every single line. She's good, diamonds,
a game and shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But still good can be.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So abridging, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh no, no, no, you don't know all of fans.
I mean so Rihanna's watches everything. Oh I love Jennifer Lawrence.
The list goes on, and now Jennifer Lawrence is what
is she doing?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
She's doing the movie, the a twenty four movie about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Guess what that's about us? Yeah, Housewives. I better have
a cameo. Okay, I'm playing you right now, Jennifer Lawrence,
come on, keep on serving count Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You understand the way that you're making my day.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
No, this is my hear My childhood is made from this.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like I grew up, I know you, so guess what
My fans are really young like you. So, so this
is how I build my cab ratio, which is I
start with a song. That I love personally, that I
(25:01):
know my fans know because Mommy was listening to the
same song. And then I go, Okay, what is the
story that I got back in the song? Right? Because
cabaret is about stories, it's my personal story, like Mary
f Kill My new tour is about who I'd marry,
who had f and who I'd kill. Right, Well, I
felt a lot of experience. I've been married, divorced, married again,
(25:24):
divorced again. But I love men and I'm always in
trouble with a man, always, whether it's a pirate, getting divorced,
falling into a bush over anyway. So I'm inspired for
my shows because of my life. Really, right, So we
produce the show ourselves. It's about our lives, and the
cabaret is really it's a It's it is pop culture
(25:49):
meets cabaret meets comedy meets a fashion show. I'm like,
you know, I'm like Lucille bullshit, do you know what
I mean? That's what I do. I love it because
I get to Then I go, oh, that's a story
for that song. And then I picked a Jovanni dress.
I feel like, so I sing Tina Turner.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I feel like you're super empowering and like really confident.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So my fans are eighty percent women, and then I
have my voice, right yeah, and all my music is
empowering and confident and cool. Baysking the life you want
to live. There's no sympathy, so money can't buy your class.
Elegances learned, my friend, It's all about I try to
(26:32):
be as inspirational as I can and share my knowledge.
I'm almost six years old, girls, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And you look amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
You better get it again one more time. Come on,
no bags, no bags, and can we get.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
A moment for these titties? Hello? Hello, take them off.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Like you've never seen boobs before.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, they're amazing, I know, thank you. Okay, So when
you started all of this, did you ever expect it
was gonna take this turn and this is where you
are now?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, we got paid ten thousand dollars for the first season,
the entire season.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The whole season, whole season.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's wild boom. I had no clue. If I saw
the houseize of Orange County, I would have never done
the show ever. Really, I'm married to a French whiriskrat.
No wow, I was sold on Manhattan Moms.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Oh I was going to ask you what was the
origin of this? So it was just, Hey, we're gonna
follow you around.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I see chills here in at the party hot. So
I'm with my I'm with my nieces at the screening
of Michael Moore's movie called Siko with Tommy Hill figure
and his wife were friends of mine. So I'm there
at the screening and I see a guy buying shots
for my nieces. I'm like, who is that guy? So
go over and I'm Bobby. You want to? Yes, I'll
(27:58):
take a shot too. I'm gonna give a twin thrilled
to shot I want to? And then who walks over? Hi,
I'm Jill Zerin Till Zerin. I'm like, all right, I've
never seen anything like it in my life. I was enthralled,
you know why, because I love people that are real.
I like posers, I like real people, and she's the
(28:19):
real deal. And I'm doing a TV show you should
be on. Okay. So that's how it happened, and I
got the house. It came to me. I didn't search
for it came to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Roney itself is my comfort show. I watch it every
night to go to sleep, and I wonder if you do,
I swear to god she does.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
She can off like episode numbers. You should see what
she sent me.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Our show is the best.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There is nothing that you know what why because we were.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Real friends that is not thrown together. We knew each
other well true.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Out of all the seasons, what would your favorite in
the moment, do you remember a season that was like, yes,
you had so much fun?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
What season Marrakesh season four? Grandmost got killed on a
camel hitting.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Coming down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That is one of the best.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Go back to the Count that you came from.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Monster shoes, no idea what they're talking about. These are
some of her most iconic lines.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So then she is those are Louis vtone shoes and
I go, well, even Louis Vutone makes mistakes. Yep.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
One time the fans like me, yeah, hobby Bee, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah baby all I wanted in to say that to
me and I actually wait wait. The best part for
me was because I've been to a Marakesh many times
because I used to live in Europe and my husband,
the Count was a rally driver, so you had an
as like the one the dB six that's in bond,
so he was driving it across the Atlas Mountains doing
(29:59):
a were you know, a car rally with classic car
enthusiasts with that. So I went to America many times
and was like, we're in a third world country. I'm like,
no ship, dumbass. I mean, I love her, but she's
Jill Zarran in the suk with the fanny pack. Well,
(30:22):
you're this is an America right there. We had this
ca We had some crazy, crazy moments that that was
my favorite trip. I was the hostess. Do you think
this is the Plaza Hotel? This is Morocco?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Morocco began to attack you like these two do you
invite it?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Does it get old?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Never? Never, never, because you know what, I'll be walking
down the street, I'll be in the airport and I'm
just I'm low right, so I'm walking around and then
people are like and I goes, oh shit, I forgot.
That's why I'm kind of a celebrity and this. You know,
Simon Donan, who's married to Jonathan Adler, said to me,
and he was very good friends with Mary Kate also
(31:00):
who was married to the French president's brother, Olivier. He
said to me, you know, lou Simon Donan, you're the
right kind of fame. You're famous enough, but you're not
too famous. And I like that. Listen. I was a nurse.
(31:21):
I used to you know, tag a lot of toes,
beard a lot of people. I mean, I was rough,
and so guess what. Every day I walked out and
I worked on a traumatic brain injury unit, suction people's
throats at night. It was rough. I walk in the
morning and go, I can get out into a car
and they can drive away. They couldn't do that. So
(31:44):
every day is gift to me, and I don't. I
really am not that person. It seems like I'm very
down to earth. They build up the count's character on
the show every chance they got. Let's use the Countess
club because they're building a character, right, It's a part
of who I am. For sure, I am a countess.
I speak several languages. I have two kids from marriage.
(32:07):
Do you know the history of deviceps?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Now, I believe that's your family. They created the sus Canal.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's right, which is the only man in the world
that parted two sees, Suez and Panama. Right, it's incredible, Right,
and then guess what he was so important in France
that he was given the task of giving this statue
of liberty to America. So if you go to a
statue of the Red, which New Yorkers don't do, I've
never been there. I've been there. But if you go,
(32:36):
there's Della steps everywhere. I mean I didn't. I didn't
get the title from a cracker Jack's box. It's part
of my history, and I'm very proud of that history.
And I have two children from that history. So in
my son's account, by the way, So if you're single,
I might have took you up high and hot r
(32:56):
on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Set me up and Celia just petehst eat. Thanks a lot,
Thanks a lot. We've messed the studio.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Before you go.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Mary f kill Ish unless we played the game with you.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Oh, let's do it doing color photos.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Stepping it up for the contest.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You should do that, pop up pictures images of the
people that we because we play Mary f kill on
my show.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You should. We played here all the time. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I love it. So we should pop up images and
write that down, Roger, write down we have.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Is what Tom sandabal hot right here?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I cannot I like to play.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So someone you already know, Harry Dubin.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Okay, got you?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Or Wilson?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Who's that? Well, I'm definitely in the fun sound of
all because he's hot and he's a cheater, so he's
perfect for me. Is that m cougar Harry Duban? You
know I'm going to kill him? Oh wow, So I
guess I'm marrying that guy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
She killed herr.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Jesse seven. Hey Wes, we're gonna get married darling. All right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Last question for all the Bravo fans.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Are you to at the bathroom?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I mean you have? You have really hydrated yourself with
all the drinks here.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I appreciate that I had to hydrate today.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
When it comes to Bravo Con twenty twenty five, are
you going to be there? Do you have plans to
be there?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Listen? You know I crossed that bridge. When I crossed
the bridge, you know, yes, why wouldn't I.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Not be Okay? I think people are gonna be very
bad about I went.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know this last year? Was this year or last year? Yeah?
In Vegas was so much fun. I want to go
to the sphere and see the Eagles. Digit is my
favorite bath I hope too, and I hope they do
it again in Vegas because it was a great time.
Really good.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
You're a great time, I am. This has been probably
one of the most fun interviews that we've had on
the podcast has some really fun and stuff, but I
don't think I've ever seen someone's booths before in here.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So girls, I could do this all day with me.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Or thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You're so welcome, and don't forget to tell people where
to get their cabaret tickets. Tell them right now, Countess
luand dot com.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'll counts dot com down. Yeah, I think you're gonna
see three people keeping streaming things in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Thank you, God, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You are the best.
Why don't we just start? Do you want to start?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, in the middle of nowhere and they're like, so
you like.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
When people come up and say, oh my god, it's
count Let me take a picture.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No, I love, but I'm in a remote, random place
on a boat. I'm happy for myself for you. Guess what.
Nobody takes me down? You better?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can I start?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Can I start with you? Okay? I am very excited
about this guest because I have never seen so much
excitement from the staff here as I have for land
A Lessa. Very nice to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you, Jeling. It's countess.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Okay, I'm glad you said that because from Countess.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Lu like the intro because people love using the title
more than I do. Okay, my friends call me lou
so you are my friends.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Lou So. I have a question about the whole countess thing.
Though you've dropped countess, what do you mean, No, it's
still countess?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well hell yah, I mean I have seventeen years of
marriage and two children with the count so that counts well.
And it's my cabaret show is Countess, Luanne. It's you know,
that's my That's where I go with Countess Luan, that's
what and I'm keeping.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It absolutely, I'll get it tattooed on me. Countess Gandhi doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Sound a good idea. I never thought about that.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh do you have any tattoos?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I do one?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh what is that? Is that a lotus?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It is a lotus.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's a nice one.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Because lotuses grown deep dark places and then they have
a beautiful flower. So you know, I've gone to deep
dark places, especially in my career. Okay, and on the show.
And guess what, I rose like a phoenix to the
cabaret stage.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And by the way, that is Diamond. Diamond has been
waiting on this maybe her entire life, probably to sit
here and talk to you. Every time your name is mentioned.
This is what happened.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
She had silhouettes and fireworks every single live Oh, who's
gonna bring the diamonds me?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm like floored because you are just as fun in
person as you are on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh honey, can we turn up together because I'm into it?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Speaking of a good time. Number one, I'm sure you
already know this. You were picked as the favorite housewife
of all of the forty six housewives in the franchise.
I'm understanding why. Well, also, you were talking about you
had a really good time last night. Speaking of having
a good time.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I went to see Cabaret on Broadway with Eddie Redmain
and bb Newarth Darling. It does not get better than that.
It's one of the best things I've ever seen in
my life.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And then we went out and partied.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
If you can't see her right now, she is currently
wearing her sunglasses in the studio, which is always a
sign of a great night. Giovanni JUMPSU and Giovanni Jovanni.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Feeling jo Vannie and it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Do you want to explain to the people who don't
know what that means?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Because well, you know, listen, when you feel good, you
look good. You have to matching underwear, your nails are painted,
and you put a Giovanni outfit. It makes you feel good.
That's why I sing feeling Giovanni, because it makes me
feel good. So I sing about that, and Sheik said
to me, Okay, confident and cool passion is key. Live
(03:32):
the life you want to live. There's no sympathy.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So you mentioned something as soon as you came in,
because I pronounced the word water a little weirdly, just
messing around, and you said you sound like my German boyfriend.
Who is this German boyfriend? Do people know about him?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I can't tell you. It's it's secret. It's a secret
because mystery is everything. Does everyone have to know what
you're doing all the time?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Film?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, no, I'm not in the Housewives anymore, that's true.
So guess what Now I get to share what I feel.
Now I'm dating, I mean good time. But this one
in particular I love because he's European, right, Okay, I
go European. Okay, the Count Jacques Well and Tom is
a whole nother story, but that's okay. I brought up
(04:17):
the dirty word, Tom did.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And I love that for you. But here's my question.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I didn't love it for me. I'm loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I didn't love it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yes, you can, you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Mary f kill. Yeah. My new cabaret show and tour
is all about there's men that I would marry. They
give me such a thrill. There's men that I would
f and men that I would kill. Right, So it's
about we're not killing anybody but the ones we want
to get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Absolutely right. Here's my question. Can you still see his
terrace from your apartment?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Oh my gosh, how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I want to burn down the trees.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Imagine living in a beautiful apartment, You're having a great day.
You look out the window and you can see your
exus terrace.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, but guess what. I don't give it a second
thought because I don't care. Oh, I've moved on. I
don't live in regret, and I don't live in the past.
I live in the in the moment. So I don't
worry about the past because it's gone. Yeah right, And
I don't worry about the future. Like when I do
my shows, people like, aren't you nervous? Like, not really,
because I don't think about it until I get on stage.
(05:32):
Then I'm in.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Does anything make you nervous?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Sure, you know, butterflies are good for shows, you know.
Of course. I have a little nervous before I get out,
But once I'm there, this is my playground. And that's
what I love about cabaret because I get to do
whatever I want. I can say whatever I want, I
can play any music I want. You can't do that
on TV. So people think they know my cabaret show
(05:57):
from the show. Well, it's not about my show, it's
about the drama. It's around the cabaret show. Right when
they come to the show. They come into Toyota and
they drive out in a rolls.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Royce, Oh you better, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And they have no idea what to expect. And guess what,
I blow their fucking minds. I believe that because I
do a fantastic My director, Richard J. Alexander, Oh, just
Kristin Chenowith, Barbaras, Royce and Bette Miller, he's worked with
all of them, and he's a fan of mine. Here
he says me, it's so good. He has countess. I
came here not expecting very much from you, But guess what,
(06:31):
you fucking blew my mind. First of all, you can say,
which people always say I can't. Well, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's not true.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you you're funny, and you wear a dress like
no woman I've ever seen in my lifetime feel and
jove Vannie. So guess what. People don't know what to expect,
and I deliver because I work really hard on cabaret.
That's I love cabaret. That's I love it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So where did this all come from? Because I was
looking at your bio here you've done everything from being
a career nurse, a model, an actress, an author, a philanthropist,
a TV star, and now successful cabaret entertainer and singer.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Where'd you get that list? I'm joking because it's all true,
So I'll tell you where it came from. So a
very old friend of mine said, Lou, you love to
host parties, you love to tell jokes, and I've got
some sick jokes and you're funny. You're funny cabaret jokes.
You should be doing cabaret. I was, see oh, never
(07:31):
thought about that, and then married, married again, divorce, and
I didn't think about until later when the should hit
the fan for me, and only one way to go.
You got to rise where you're gonna go when you're
down to the bottom up. It saved my life in
so many ways because I love the creative part about it,
(07:52):
and I self deprecate because guess what, listen, people have
been through shit. We all go through stuff, right, but
I do it on TV my life with people, right,
And so cabaret was really my godsend.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Really you're touring right now with Mary f Kill I am.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I just came back from London. Wow. Well well no, no, no,
till the Swinton came to my show and then she
invited me to Scotland. What and I went?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
And did you have a good time there?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Wait? A great time? Okay, I'm doing Baltimore, Maryland. Where
am I doing?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Baltimore? Yeah, give us a wrong Alexandria, Virginia to coomb
in Washington, San Diego and Phoenix and New York. You
have to do it on my website to check it
out because I have a lot of dates coming up
and more to come and going back to London because
I had the best time and they they love the
Housewives over there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
But you said something earlier that I want to ask
you about. You said, you're not filming for the Housewives anymore,
so now you get to decide what people see and
what they don't see. When you look back at somebody
filming your life, did you appreciate that? Would you do
anything differently?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
It was a job, right, So my private life was
very separate always from the house was it?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, Jilliu's com I got the episode. Let's watch her,
I'd like to sleep well tonight. So I'm not wishing
because you know, you always there's always like, oh shit,
I should have said that, or I wish I didn't
say that, because you can't take it back right. Once
it's done, it's done. So we filmed and then had
to live it six months later or a year later,
(09:22):
depending on how the show had So when I got
in trouble with the pirate.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That I got in trouble with the pirates, what happened
I did?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
So what do you think happened with the pirates from.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
A viewer's perspective? Diamond And I think but Celia, by
the way, this is intern Celia, Hika.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They were on a trip and.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, St.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Barts and they went to they went to a bar
and they were guys dressed up like pirates and they
were dancing on the tables. They got lit, you know,
they as they.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do their housewives trips, and I mean a great time.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Luanne found you know this one pirate, Tomas.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That looks like Johnny Depp.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yes, totally okay.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And at the time lu Anne was with Jacques correct
and all the housewives conspired that Luenne had been unfaithful
I guess with Tomas the Pirate.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm going to tell you that story.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But yeah, of course this is from a viewer's perspective,
and it's that you know, she's on the phone with
her with her friend who only speaks French, and of
course only Countess Luanne is fluent in French, and so
she was speaking in French talking about her night, and
so all the girls were saying, oh lu Aanne hooked
up with Toma's the pirate, and then he was there
(10:38):
the next day.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what happened there. So of
course I see this hot pirate, right. He wants to
come and see the house we're in because it's the
best house in St. Barts, okay, and he wanted to
come with me, of course, so the girls say we're
going home. I go bye. I'm with my Italian friends,
which I did, have a whole group of friends there,
and ung up with him. The reality is I wanted
(11:02):
to smoke a doobie and he had pots, so who
has So I bring him to the house. The girls
are all sleeping and we have a party, actually him
around the house. We go to my room, we have
a little tequila and I said, you gotta go. I
have the film tomorrow and I have a boyfriend. You
(11:23):
can't stay. So he's like whining, little whining pirate, and
I said him out of the of the house. I
kicked him out right. It was a car from production
that took me back to the house with the guy.
So production knows how I got home. The girls don't know.
They're sleeping, so guess what production goes? Hey as Luna
(11:44):
got on that side.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh so production, You're saying, darling.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So I wake up in the morning. Now they they
know what's cooking in the kitchen, and I'm like, they
know no idea. How was you know? How'd you get home?
I said, well, my Italian friends, but they know otherwise,
and I don't. I have no idea that they know, right,
because the production has done that to me. Okay, fair enough,
So I guess who's coming for dinner the next night? Tuma.
(12:12):
First time ever on house its history. I got caught
with a mic pack on my back, which I forgot about,
so I called to depart. Come, don't tell them how
that you were at the house. Basically, you were not
here because I'm trying to protect my boyfriend. I'm in
love with So I kicked the guy out, and guess
(12:35):
that they invite him and they grill him, and he's like,
he has no idea what he's just gotten into. How
can he navigate all these women? He tries, but he
looks like a liar and we look totally guilty. And
then guess what he seems with Sonia?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh was that in the bushes?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's a that's another trip.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
That was Mexico.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That was Mexican where we drank all day. Anyway, that's
the story of the pirate. And guess what, Andy Cohen
fished him out because now he lives in Miami and
he cut all his hair off. You would not recognize him.
(13:19):
And Andy's did you see? No, I didn't see, but.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So they painted you out to be like that. Well
I kind of did, yeah, but editing is a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Sorry, I had a question about that. Actually, So I
feel like, no, I have a press conference over here,
over here, I just.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Sit here all day. I have to go to page
six next ship my favorite outlet.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I know, Like, I watched so much Bravo and I
have always had so many questions about production's role. How
much do we not see of production really calculating some
of these heights or.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So it's like you go, you don't get invited to
a party, you're a little upset about it, but you're
not going to flip out On Housewives. It's exaggerated because
we're making a TV show. That's what we do making TV, right,
So it's you know, amped up of course, and it's
our stories. But production likes to say, hey, ask.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Her about that from last night, So they're the lighter
fluid on the fire. Is any of it actually scripted
or is it more decided? None of it. So when
we see these things where you know you are feuding
with Bethany or Bethany's footing with you, that's real. That's
real because some some shit went down last weekend. Oh yeah, yeah,
how are you feeling about that?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You know, I'm feeling good because she really wants to
clean up this thing that we have.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
From what I get, I don't trust her, understandable, especially
because you've the show and she sent her daughter to
do her dirty work. That's right, and you were nice.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Daughter, and guess what when we're gonna do She's love
the girl, by the way, very cute looks just like
the father, nothing like Bethy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Dig dig Sons fired.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's true. Beautiful girl of course, can be nice to
I don't know, she's twelve or thirteen something. That was it, really,
And then Emma Roberts came over because she's a fan
of mine. She's done Exceller franchise and put it out there.
Oh oh and Roberts, you have to look for it.
She just excell franchise. Okay, So she comes over to
see me, say, hell, first of all, I'm with John Hamm.
(15:33):
You had a hell of a time girlfriend and a
lot of a lot of friends there anyway, So then
she takes pictures me Emma her daughter. You can see them,
send them to me please. Did not get them?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Oh she never sent you the pictures, No, because she.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Had to post them first. Cool. And she also has
had me blocked in social media.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
What do you think caused the initial block? Do you know,
like the inciting incident.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Probably from the day that she announced she's not coming
back to the show. I was like jumping for joy.
You know what, Bething's really funny. I miss her wit
and I miss those moments we had epic fights because
guess what, it's real, like there's a real feud always
between us, like you fucked everyone. I go, really, am
(16:27):
I the Kim Katrell of the family of what?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I don't know about it?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I guess I'm not afraid of her. You see the
other women are afraid of her. I'm not bring it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I love the best? She concedes. I guess life is
a cabaret.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
A hashtag.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm like, m maybe not for you, but it is
for me.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
When it comes to the whole reality rackoning thing that
she was starting to talk about, what are your thoughts
on that? Are you glad that it's all coming out there?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Are you kind of like this is bullshit with her
going after you know reality? Yes, listen, it's a we're
syndicated worldwide. We don't get residuals.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh wow, okay, no we do not.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So she's right there. I love that part. But guess what,
she burned down the house. You don't burn down the
house where you're trying to do that.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Also, yeah, absolutely, especially when a ton of other people are.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Involved, with a lot of respect for that, trying to
help reality stars make more money and do the right thing.
But she burned down our house Andy and I spoke
about it. Oh, would she say that we are toxic people?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Do you think she was actually doing it to help
out reality stars or do you think she was doing
it because she wanted the attention back on her?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
What was option B? This whole thing is fascinating to me.
We know a couple of the housewives from Jersey and
there's obviously drama popping off over there, crazy drama that
they allegedly might not even be coming back.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, you know, I don't like taking down family shit.
We never did that in New York. We thought it
fashion shows, hecklers on the cabaretage, we invited to fucking
saying barts. Jill had to do the same wherever she
was that she got Scary Island. There's a girls trip
(18:15):
to Scary Island. My girlfriend owns the house they filmed in.
What those are my friends, Darling? They had to rent
it on the house, So I don't go on the trip.
It's my daughter's birthday and it's Scary Island, right, And
Kelly says, I'm going to go, I said, and Jill's
not going either. We are her allies. So she goes
into battle without her troops and she can't take it,
(18:40):
and because they're going to drive her nuts. But they
bullied her into that. Now, anybody would be very hurt
and upset. I get it. She looked crazy, but she's
not crazy, you know what I'm saying. But they broke
her and I was not there to help her out,
and I felt bad about that.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
How do you feel about her canceling the wedding two
days two days before and where you invited?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
She was smurt of the man. I mean, I got
divorced seven months later, so I wish I canceled the
wedding too.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Did you see it coming? Did you think that was
gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
No? No, I did not. No, I did not expect that.
You got to go to the hockey game after, right,
So I'm like complaining, like, dude, hook me up. You've
got this boyfriend, any single friends that are hot right
and dating? Like, be a good wing man, and then
call her out for it on that trip and guess what, now,
she has to take me to the Raindeers game because
(19:38):
it looks like an asshole the soues. So we go
and we're on the jumbo dron and they play the
scene from the show on the jump on the joh.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Wait, they played your fight about this on the JumboTron
the game while you're there.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The Rangers people loved it. They loved it. So we're like,
we're like the stars of the Raindeers game. Here we
are the housewives. I mean, I mean the stuff we
get to do is mind blowing and the people we
get to meet. And so she takes me and I
haven't been to a Rangers game since I don't know
(20:11):
how many years, and we have the best time. So
Kelly is now my wing man. I know she's single.
Oh oh, we're just coming.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So the drama that you guys have it was real,
but it wasn't deep rooted family.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It was real. Yeah, I don't want Dirk. I went
good New York, crazy girl.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Fun fights at a fashion show. It's like my favorite thing.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And fights, And that was real. She's been saying to
me forever, I'm going to take you to the Rangers game.
Guess what never happened?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So well now we do.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We're filming TV shows on my bitch, You've never invited
me to the Rangers game. So you have to hold
people's feet to the fire. Once a while.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Diamonds over here taking notes by the way, I think
all she wanted life on I'm going to write.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm going to write a dating, a book on dating. Oh,
please do it in this generation. Girls, I can't. Are
you single?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I am not, but I would love to hear I
would I am.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Where do you start dating? Now? What's up?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Well? Dating now today with social media and people on
their phones. You know they go out, they're on their
phone and they don't talk to people. So put down
the laptops, the iPads and phones. Time for a hall day. Yeah,
life is a caboerray my friends come to my cabouret.
(21:39):
So women have to invite men they were in charge.
Men are not in charge. Women are in charge. You
have to have So like the Queen of England, if
she works up to you, do not put your hand out.
Guess who does it. She does invites you into her space,
her personal space. So women have to do that. For example,
you're at a bar, you with three girls, you have
(22:00):
a table, you're drinking. You see a hot kite the bar.
He's alone. Well, we're not going to go up tomorrow
way now because a lady doesn't do that, and is
he going to come to the table with three girls?
Hell no, terrified. So we're going to send a little
note with the waiter and say please join us for drinks,
and the waiter is gonna go welcome into the cabaret.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I love that everything is a cabareight.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it makes complete sense. I know, my life.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's amazing nation.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Are you kidding me? I just played London six dates,
I mean killed it and over there. Let me tell
you London loves Loves loves the housewives. I've never been there,
so it was like I was new fresh meat over
in London. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Did you ever think when you started out on this
journey that it would end up where? Yeah, we gave
you options. We didn't want to. Yeah, get the hydraction back.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I guess who came to see us? Vogue, okay, the
pussy beyond, I mean the star Bridgerton. What's her name?
The star? Yes, she wrote a story Shoes, more shoes, Cavier,
more shoes. Have you heard it? I have not had.
She's a star Bridgerton and she's a fan of mine.
(23:18):
So she comes to meet me in London and she
writes a song.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Let's play it Oh my god, are you gonna play
your phone?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
More shoes? Oh you have to listen. It's amazing. She's
doing me.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You know when real house so I released songs excusively
for it's like my dream job, shoes, yacht caveat more shoes.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
She's good inside fives, inspireworks every single line. She's good, diamonds,
a game and shoes.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
But still good can be.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So abridging, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh no, no, no, you don't know all of fans.
I mean so Rihanna's watches everything. Oh I love Jennifer Lawrence.
The list goes on, and now Jennifer Lawrence is what
is she doing?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
She's doing the movie, the a twenty four movie about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Guess what that's about us? Yeah, Housewives. I better have
a cameo. Okay, I'm playing you right now, Jennifer Lawrence,
come on, keep on serving count Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You understand the way that you're making my day.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
No, this is my hear My childhood is made from this.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like I grew up, I know you, so guess what
My fans are really young like you. So, so this
is how I build my cab ratio, which is I
start with a song. That I love personally, that I
(25:01):
know my fans know because Mommy was listening to the
same song. And then I go, Okay, what is the
story that I got back in the song? Right? Because
cabaret is about stories, it's my personal story, like Mary
f Kill My new tour is about who I'd marry,
who had f and who I'd kill. Right, Well, I
felt a lot of experience. I've been married, divorced, married again,
(25:24):
divorced again. But I love men and I'm always in
trouble with a man, always, whether it's a pirate, getting divorced,
falling into a bush over anyway. So I'm inspired for
my shows because of my life. Really, right, So we
produce the show ourselves. It's about our lives, and the
cabaret is really it's a It's it is pop culture
(25:49):
meets cabaret meets comedy meets a fashion show. I'm like,
you know, I'm like Lucille bullshit, do you know what
I mean? That's what I do. I love it because
I get to Then I go, oh, that's a story
for that song. And then I picked a Jovanni dress.
I feel like, so I sing Tina Turner.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I feel like you're super empowering and like really confident.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So my fans are eighty percent women, and then I
have my voice, right yeah, and all my music is
empowering and confident and cool. Baysking the life you want
to live. There's no sympathy, so money can't buy your class.
Elegances learned, my friend, It's all about I try to
(26:32):
be as inspirational as I can and share my knowledge.
I'm almost six years old, girls, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
And you look amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
You better get it again one more time. Come on,
no bags, no bags, and can we get.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
A moment for these titties? Hello? Hello, take them off.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Like you've never seen boobs before.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, they're amazing, I know, thank you. Okay, So when
you started all of this, did you ever expect it
was gonna take this turn and this is where you
are now?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, we got paid ten thousand dollars for the first season,
the entire season.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
The whole season, whole season.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's wild boom. I had no clue. If I saw
the houseize of Orange County, I would have never done
the show ever. Really, I'm married to a French whiriskrat.
No wow, I was sold on Manhattan Moms.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Oh I was going to ask you what was the
origin of this? So it was just, Hey, we're gonna
follow you around.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I see chills here in at the party hot. So
I'm with my I'm with my nieces at the screening
of Michael Moore's movie called Siko with Tommy Hill figure
and his wife were friends of mine. So I'm there
at the screening and I see a guy buying shots
for my nieces. I'm like, who is that guy? So
go over and I'm Bobby. You want to? Yes, I'll
(27:58):
take a shot too. I'm gonna give a twin thrilled
to shot I want to? And then who walks over? Hi,
I'm Jill Zerin Till Zerin. I'm like, all right, I've
never seen anything like it in my life. I was enthralled,
you know why, because I love people that are real.
I like posers, I like real people, and she's the
(28:19):
real deal. And I'm doing a TV show you should
be on. Okay. So that's how it happened, and I
got the house. It came to me. I didn't search
for it came to me.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Roney itself is my comfort show. I watch it every
night to go to sleep, and I wonder if you do,
I swear to god she does.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
She can off like episode numbers. You should see what
she sent me.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Our show is the best.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There is nothing that you know what why because we were.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Real friends that is not thrown together. We knew each
other well true.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Out of all the seasons, what would your favorite in
the moment, do you remember a season that was like, yes,
you had so much fun?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
What season Marrakesh season four? Grandmost got killed on a
camel hitting.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Coming down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
That is one of the best.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Go back to the Count that you came from.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Monster shoes, no idea what they're talking about. These are
some of her most iconic lines.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So then she is those are Louis vtone shoes and
I go, well, even Louis Vutone makes mistakes. Yep.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
One time the fans like me, yeah, hobby Bee, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah baby all I wanted in to say that to
me and I actually wait wait. The best part for
me was because I've been to a Marakesh many times
because I used to live in Europe and my husband,
the Count was a rally driver, so you had an
as like the one the dB six that's in bond,
so he was driving it across the Atlas Mountains doing
(29:59):
a were you know, a car rally with classic car
enthusiasts with that. So I went to America many times
and was like, we're in a third world country. I'm like,
no ship, dumbass. I mean, I love her, but she's
Jill Zarran in the suk with the fanny pack. Well,
(30:22):
you're this is an America right there. We had this
ca We had some crazy, crazy moments that that was
my favorite trip. I was the hostess. Do you think
this is the Plaza Hotel? This is Morocco?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Morocco began to attack you like these two do you
invite it?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Does it get old?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Never? Never, never, because you know what, I'll be walking
down the street, I'll be in the airport and I'm
just I'm low right, so I'm walking around and then
people are like and I goes, oh shit, I forgot.
That's why I'm kind of a celebrity and this. You know,
Simon Donan, who's married to Jonathan Adler, said to me,
and he was very good friends with Mary Kate also
(31:00):
who was married to the French president's brother, Olivier. He
said to me, you know, lou Simon Donan, you're the
right kind of fame. You're famous enough, but you're not
too famous. And I like that. Listen. I was a nurse.
(31:21):
I used to you know, tag a lot of toes,
beard a lot of people. I mean, I was rough,
and so guess what. Every day I walked out and
I worked on a traumatic brain injury unit, suction people's
throats at night. It was rough. I walk in the
morning and go, I can get out into a car
and they can drive away. They couldn't do that. So
(31:44):
every day is gift to me, and I don't. I
really am not that person. It seems like I'm very
down to earth. They build up the count's character on
the show every chance they got. Let's use the Countess
club because they're building a character, right, It's a part
of who I am. For sure, I am a countess.
I speak several languages. I have two kids from marriage.
(32:07):
Do you know the history of deviceps?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Now, I believe that's your family. They created the sus Canal.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
That's right, which is the only man in the world
that parted two sees, Suez and Panama. Right, it's incredible, Right,
and then guess what he was so important in France
that he was given the task of giving this statue
of liberty to America. So if you go to a
statue of the Red, which New Yorkers don't do, I've
never been there. I've been there. But if you go,
(32:36):
there's Della steps everywhere. I mean I didn't. I didn't
get the title from a cracker Jack's box. It's part
of my history, and I'm very proud of that history.
And I have two children from that history. So in
my son's account, by the way, So if you're single,
I might have took you up high and hot r
(32:56):
on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Set me up and Celia just petehst eat. Thanks a lot,
Thanks a lot. We've messed the studio.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Before you go.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Mary f kill Ish unless we played the game with you.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Oh, let's do it doing color photos.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Stepping it up for the contest.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You should do that, pop up pictures images of the
people that we because we play Mary f kill on
my show.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You should. We played here all the time. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I love it. So we should pop up images and
write that down, Roger, write down we have.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Is what Tom sandabal hot right here?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I cannot I like to play.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So someone you already know, Harry Dubin.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Okay, got you?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Or Wilson?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Who's that? Well, I'm definitely in the fun sound of
all because he's hot and he's a cheater, so he's
perfect for me. Is that m cougar Harry Duban? You
know I'm going to kill him? Oh wow, So I
guess I'm marrying that guy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
She killed herr.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Jesse seven. Hey Wes, we're gonna get married darling. All right.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Last question for all the Bravo fans.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Are you to at the bathroom?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I mean you have? You have really hydrated yourself with
all the drinks here.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I appreciate that I had to hydrate today.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
When it comes to Bravo Con twenty twenty five, are
you going to be there? Do you have plans to
be there?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Listen? You know I crossed that bridge. When I crossed
the bridge, you know, yes, why wouldn't I.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Not be Okay? I think people are gonna be very
bad about I went.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know this last year? Was this year or last year? Yeah?
In Vegas was so much fun. I want to go
to the sphere and see the Eagles. Digit is my
favorite bath I hope too, and I hope they do
it again in Vegas because it was a great time.
Really good.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
You're a great time, I am. This has been probably
one of the most fun interviews that we've had on
the podcast has some really fun and stuff, but I
don't think I've ever seen someone's booths before in here.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So girls, I could do this all day with me.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Or thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You're so welcome, and don't forget to tell people where
to get their cabaret tickets. Tell them right now, Countess
luand dot com.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'll counts dot com down. Yeah, I think you're gonna
see three people keeping streaming things in the crowd.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Thank you, God, thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You are the best.
Host
Medha Gandhi
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