April 15, 2025 • 32 mins
Tiffany and LOVB champion Khat Bell are joined by LOVB broadcaster and current Notre Dame head coach Salima Rockwell to break down how LOVB Austin beat LOVB Omaha to claim the league’s inaugural title. They discuss Austin’s focus heading into the match, LOVB Finals MVP Madisen Skinner’s progression through the year, and a few other key factors that lead to the monumental win. The two also give shoutouts to unsung heroes from the match and overall thoughts on the first League One Volleyball season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Serving Pancakes listeners, Tiffany here with a quick shout
out from our friends at Adidas. We're in the final
weeks of our Love Pro season, which means it's your
final chance to grab the limited edition inaugural season player jerseys.
Show your support for your favorite players now at Adidas
dot Com slash US slash Love. That's Adidas dot Com
(00:23):
slash US slash l OVB. Hurry, these things are going
fast and once they're gone, they're gone. Don't miss out
on your chance to be part of history. Hi. I'm
Tiffany Oshinski and I'm Kat Bell, and this is Serving
Pancakes with League one Volleyball. We have a special episode
(00:44):
today to recap the inaugural Love Finals championship match where
Love Austin swept Love Omaha twenty five, nineteen twenty five,
twenty two, twenty five, twenty three. Along with my amazing
co host Kat, who will give us a first hand
look from the championship team, we also have the great
Salima Rockwell joining us. So excited to have you here. Salima,
(01:09):
thankkeep for happing me, of course, for the volleyball world,
for the volleyball fans you all know Salima, But I'm
gonna give a quick background. Salima was a three time
All American at Penn State from nineteen ninety one to
ninety four, and a two time team captain for the
US women's national team during her time on the squad
from ninety five to ninety nine. She then had multiple
assistant coaching jobs at Pittsburgh Penn State in Texas when
(01:31):
Kat was there, and helped Longhorns win a national title
in twenty twelve. Salima retired briefly from coaching in twenty eighteen,
but got scooped back up in twenty twenty two to
become the head coach at Notre Dame, where she still
is today. Salema has also announced college and international games,
and was part of the broadcasting crew for both men's
and women's indoor volleyball at the twenty twenty four Summer Olympics.
(01:53):
She's also part of the League One Volleyball broadcast crew.
And now we get to have her on the show
to talk all things Love Finals.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, Selema, welcome to Serving Pancakes.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I've watched all the time and I'm just I'm excited
to be invited and to be a part of this
amazing little thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You guys are doing well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Thank you. We're excited to have you and the obviously
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Kat, Yeah, I think this may be my favorite episode
so far. You know, Selema has been such an amazing
inspirational woman to me in my life, and being able
to have her on here just tonight, I'm really excited.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So thank you for coming with us. I love you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Thanks so sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
All right, so Selena, you were and Louisville this weekend. Kat,
you obviously were there this weekend because not only did
Love Austin played, but you guys won the championship. So
I need to know who had the most fun.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Cat, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
My voice is just now starting to kind of come
back around. Honestly, like last night, this morning, I couldn't
say anything. I was drinking tea and coffee, sucking on
these little like honey straws and everything.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So it was we had a great time. Last night
was definitely a party.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You said before when we did the recap of the
quarterfinals since semifinals that you ladies were ready, that you
just could tell you that you guys clicked. You're ready,
So talk to me about coming into the finals. What
was it like? Were you guys calm? Was their nerves?
Was it just like a hYP fest? What was it like?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, this season for us has been very up
and down, I think, and you know, you have some
of us who are like trying to strive and make
everything better and some of us kind of like, you know,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
How to confusion?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think once we made that coming back versus Atlanta,
the whole environment had changed. And I think everyone at
that moment going to that FULMB session versus Omaha, even
though we'd played Omaha multiple times of multiple occasions, everybody
was just fixating on that screen and locked in, and
I think it was one of those moments of like,
we're already here, who might as well just finish the job?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So it was definitely just a cool environment to be
in and just kind of be when what my team
is being really focused and I knew I knew, I knew.
I was like, oh yeah, I said, oh you guys
want to play volleyball now, huh okay, I see it
like I see it, So yeah, it'salia.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
What was your experience like, Well, I mean, first of all,
it's rare that I'm just a spectator, so I wasn't
calling the matches and I was on standby in case
it went three, which it did, and I was like,
we're gonna be here for five cents. I'm not even
gonna have to go on. And after the first set,
I was like, uh oh, but I mean it was
(04:15):
I was kind of nervous. I can't even describe it,
you know, just as an athlete and you get these
matches in these environments where you're like, what's gonna happen?
Like this is I was kind of sweatinged before the match,
and I was just excited to see what was gonna unfold.
I mean, I obviously thought I had some ideas, but
you know, given the season, given what we just saw
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the night before, you absolutely never know.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
So it was so fun. It was so I was so.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Jacked and so excited just to see what was gonna happen,
and it was gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
For your prediction of the finals, you said that Austin
had a little bit of an edge, and you pointed
out specifically Madison Skinner too was the reason why there
was that little bit of an edge, and she obviously
went off. She was MVP of the match, So let's
get into this game a little bit and tell me
what you guys saw from Madison on the court.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, I mean it was witness Madison every day
in practice working on her craft. Having Nicole Fausted also
in the gym is great. Nicole is one of the
best to ever do it, so people. To have her
in the gym and being coached by her definitely is
a tool that we were able to use and Madison
and one thing I was telling her just to grasp
that and whatever Nicole says, it's law, you know. So
being able to watch her grow and improve and build
her confidence on this stage has been amazing and she
(05:26):
definitely showed that this weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, you know, I think from my perspective, not being
with the team, you're waiting for that just kind of
the shift you talked about Kat and in certain people
and in their demeanor and in their how to carry themselves.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You could just see it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Even you know, in the semiis it was a different Madison.
And I not completely because she's a phenomenal player, right,
you know that she's going to play well, but throughout
the course of the season, watching her errors decrease, like
unforced there you know, or second guessing a swing, you know,
as a coach and some that's done it for a
long time, you can see that in a player when
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And man, it was just.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Like an aura around her that was like I am
this person now and you knew.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That was why I said it the night because it's
hard to repeat those kind of nights.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But you could see it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It wasn't gonna stop, it wasn't gonna end.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You could feel like if if she had five more
sets to play, she'd had fifty kills, not the twenty five,
and that for you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So that was that was part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But it was also I you know, I also talked
about the energy of the team. You could you could
feel it was palpable right, and over the course of
probably the last month, you could see that it was there, right.
And then they lost three five setters before even getting
to you know, to the championships, and it was right
there for the taking. So I don't know, I just
saw this trajectory and I was like, I don't think
(06:50):
they're gonna slow down.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And we took off. We took off. Baby.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I feel like you got the good vibes from Madison too,
because this was her fourth championship in five years. Like
she's just bringing the titles. It really helps.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It absolutely helps Selima.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Now as a coach, you are able to see, you know,
a lot of different things that the fans can't see
from their couch. So can you give me some of
the big takeaways that you took from this match?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean one of the biggest things was the
passing on the side of Austin. That was another thing
that had been kind of their achilles, right. They had
moments where they could do it, but like overall and
Logan Eggleston like was just unreal. I mean at the
first set she was like sixty seven percent perfect pass.
I was keeping track of everything, so I had it
(07:37):
in my head and it was nuts and I was like, okay,
so right now Austin is out passing omaha. So the
third pass game was completely flipped on its head. So
that for me was like, uh oh, they can't have
the firepower that they have and pass the ball well,
get the middles involved, Like that's going to be trouble.
(07:58):
So so that was one thing that I saw, you know,
just overall that that was something that Austin brought that.
It was just clean every phase of the game. And it's,
like you said, Kat, like the lock in of the film.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I could see it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I was like, they are so fully dialed into the scout.
It was like, Yep, this is where it's going. Yep,
this is what happened. We're serving here, We're gonna send
you blocks here. Like it is a pretty thing to
watch actually from a coaching stampoint.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
My favorite part is when Chris asked, He's like any
questions and the room's like silent.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
He's like, oh, okay, we all know. Yeah, that means
we got it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I was amazed to see how you guys were. I mean, like,
Justine is gonna Justine and she was still amazing, but
I feel like she wasn't Justine that we saw the
past two nights. I feel like you guys somehow managed
to get past her or to have her pass off
the net a lot. And I was just like they
got this, like they came with that fire.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We talked about a lot about that, you know, because
like you know, Justine is their their armor when it
comes to passing wells good, you know, so we're talking
about just saying, okay, we don't wwn a circle Lebero.
Obviously it's who she is. But when you can jump
one in there just to catch her off guard, and
that's what was happening. So we would maybe every four
to five thirds launched one at her and then she
wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
We'll we get in my house in a little bit,
so we definitely have that's part of the game.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Serving pancakes will be right back. Okay, Austin basically kind
of took over this match, right. I don't even think
(09:38):
Omaha led until the third set when they got that
first point. Like that's how dominant you guys were. So
in those first two sets when Omaha was calling those timeouts,
what was kind of being said.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I mean, just being patient, stayed in the course.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That's actually funny that you said that, because also in
the third set, when they got that first point, it
shook me a little bit, soil I was like, oh, wait,
every set before this one, we've always got the first,
you know, first one or two points first, so you know,
just it was okay, and you know they're they're trying
to figure some stuff out, but let's just keep doing
what we're doing stay focused. The biggest thing was just
staying focused. I think that during the third set, you know,
kind of towards the middle, we kind of broke down
(10:11):
a little bit of passing and miscommunication almost like we were
forgetting what we were doing, and we had to kind
of come back together and say, Okay, you know what,
let's be focus, regroup here, remember what we're doing, what
our jobs are, and then go back out there do it.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
So just trying to be paid. I just don't just
be patient, be patient, be patient, Selima.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you were a coach Susy France on Omaha, how
would you have handled those timeouts?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, you know, it's hard when someone's bringing their A
game at you, right, you just have to you have
to weather the storm a little bit. Right, You're like, okay,
they're playing their best volleyball, and quite frankly, it's hard
to sustain that level of play. Set to set to set,
you know, and it's like, all right, hey, we're going
to settle in here. It was really their passing. They
got so pindominant, it was so heavy. When they caught
(10:51):
up is when they were able to get sad with
the ball a little bit in the middle, when those
moments you were talking about Kat where things broke down
on your side of hair.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But that's what they needed to do.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And so, you know, my conversation is, Hey, we're just
gonna have to be patient.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Madison's gonna get her bomb kills.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
That's okay, you know, but we gotta be smart with
what we're doing around their block. That's that's the problem too.
There were so many things that they were doing well.
Number one blocking team. You're know they're gonna block well,
but we've got a chip, we've got a tool. We
gotta make some stuff happen. And shoot, they were trying,
but Austome was just smothering, you know, surrounding.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I mean, it was it sixteen blocks. I don't even remember.
I think it was sixteen. I just kept going, oh
my gosh, no, no, we're in set two. It's nine
ten eleven. Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So that's what I would say, Hey, let's be a
little more patient with our swings. Let's just high and flat.
And I'm sure she's having those conversations. Sometimes it's hard
to do when you're way off the next your way
out of system.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
It's just hard.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, for sure. As a former volleyball player and as
a coach when you were on the sideline watching, like
did you just want to get down there, whether it
was like the player like to be on the sideline,
I like, talk to them.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
You've no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I always want to get down I want to be
on the court, you know what.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Ian like not coaching that because no, I just want
to try to help, but they have to pass perfectly
for me to actually help and be able to set something.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Can'tfully run that fast.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
But like I'm always.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Like, ah, like I'm a crazy person watching vollegules. So
you know, and you wanted it to be a really
really compelling match, and you wanted, omah, how to do well.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, you.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Wanted to see that battle of these teams. So there's
so many things going through your mind. You know, like
it's cool to see this team dominate and finally figure
it out. But then it's like, ah, this kind of
stinks for omaha right now. You know, I went through
a lot of emotions. It was a it was a
roller coaster for me, but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
We had a watch party, so we had like a
bunch of our friends over and their kids and like
the moms, we all played volleyball, and so we were
all like after the second set, we're like, you know,
we're cheering for you, Cat, we're cheering for Austin in
that regard. But I'm like, we all want Omaha to
kind of like win us that because we're like, we
don't want this to end yet, like we wanted we
(13:03):
want to know, you.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Know everyone, you guys see you know what.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I can feel that from the bench, I can feel
there was like that wishful thinking about hope that maybe
Omahawk can just no, let us be in and out.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I was like, we're not going to four or five
because I'm like, this is I don't even want the headache.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And that's real though, right Cat, Like it's like, yeah,
we give up this set anything it gets shaky.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, you know, It's like I was like, keep your
freaking foots on their necks, like keep going, you know.
Just at one point, even in the third set, and
so the score was tight and it was tied up
at one point, and I.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Was like, yo, hey, I was getting mad. I looked
at it. I looked at all there in her eyes.
She looked kind of scared.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But you know, I'm gonna need you to I'm gonna
need you to do out do that out there right now,
right now.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It was one of those tight points and you guys
are about to serve, and Molly got that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Molly's stance just.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Got it like crouching tiger, like she's a little more
like ready to pounce of like uh oh.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Something, something's about to happen here.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Because I was yelling too, I was like, show.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Me something, show.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Come on, I get chills again. That was so crazy.
It still feels like a dream, honestly, Like I was
this morning. All day today, I was just telling Tiffany,
I finally just kind of feel tired because I've been.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
On such a high all day.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean I woke up like smiling, you know, and
I almost feel bad because I know, like everyone wanted
to win, and I know there was teams that obviously
played well the entire season and probably were predicted to
be in the finals.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
That kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So I was telling Michael Hancock last night, I almost
feel bad about like being happy or like, you know,
around people, and she was like forget that. She was like, dude,
like that's part of the game. She was like, you
guys earn it tonight. You know, it doesn't matter. You
guys came out tonight and played your best. And she's like,
that's part of it. She's like, no, like talk to
your stuff. And I was like, yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's such ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But it's such a lesson, Pat.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
This is what I love about so many young players
watching that, young players, college players, right, it is such
a lesson in how the gate you can just leave
one game behind you, one part of a season, one thing.
It like, it can always start over, you can always
shift things, you can always make something happen. And I
(15:17):
think that's you know, the cool part of your season was.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was nuts. It was crazy and it was not
great and it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Was all over the place and you were struggling and
then still losing and trying to figure it out. Like
what a cool storybook ending, you know, like there's a
pretty neat moment.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Would have been.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Cool if no number one seed one like that would
have been awesome. They dominated whoo, but like all the
stories would have been intriguing and compelling. But that's just
really like you said, that's the game, you know, you
never know.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, we're saying we pulled up we put off the
biggest higsts in twenty twenty five. Right now it's giving robbery.
I said, we all should be in jail. That's how bad.
It's like the biggest highest of twenty.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Twenty five, biggest ice bamboos league bam thrustled.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But not only bamboozled the league, but you also came
away with two hundred thousand dollars a Tiffany necklace and
Tifany literally from this lea.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
No, but for real? I asked Tom.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I was like, how much does mexicost I was like,
I know the necklace costs a lot of money, so
I didn't say it's a Tiffany's necklace.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
It's gold. It's like it's like they have one that's
like a small It looks like a smile to me,
that's what it looks like. And they have one that's small,
but we have the big one. The big ones had
a little nice price tag on it. So I looked
at it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Of course you did.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I looked at it.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I wanted to make sure what's around my neck? I
need to know. I had to look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh my gosh, I want to I want to know,
because like I've never won a championship, right, Like I've
won my Beer League championships. But that's completely different than
like confetti falling from the sky.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It's something. It's something.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I get one hundred and twenty five dollars gift
card to the bar, which is great, but it's not
confetti falling on like on the court. It's not all
of a sudden camera flashes and people putting cameras in
your face and cheering for you and everyone like crying
and tears and happiness and like hoisting a giant trophy.
So I want to know, like what is it like
(17:12):
once you win that title, Like take me through the
process as a player of like what happens next, because
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, honestly, it's almost like a blackout, you know,
like you know, once you realize that the game is
over and that you actually won, it's you're just overwhelmed
so many emotions.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know, you're just trying to get in that huddle.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Like we didn't do a dog file because I think
we're all too old dog files and I think that
would just would have been terrible. A dog a grave
yard bodies just would have been on the ground and
not gonna be able to get that. But there's so
many emotions and again, I don't even think I really
settled into it until maybe, like I still haven't. Honestly,
I still haven't. I'm still like processing the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
But you know, you're just being in that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Moment and living in those those your friends and your
teammates and you know, just embracing each other and just
taking it all in.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You know, I think you don't really see the cameras.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You don't really see everyone looking at you, cheering there,
see the feel you see the confetti, But it's like
when you catch those eyes, the ones that you've been
in the gym with it to the past have I
mean amounts you've been training with and you know and
understand the grit you guys are going through to get
to where you are now.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And that's just where it is.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So yeah, Selima, did you feel like a proud mom
I'm watching cat out there when with that trophy, with
the confetti falling, I sure do all the time.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I feel like a proud mom.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm just like you.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And as another podcast or whatever this is, that's a
whole like just her development and her growth as a
person and as a human and as a all the things.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I'm I'm always Lemann. When I was bad, lemannew me
when I was bad.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Relative just got a rain, got in a little bit,
come about it in the mows, right, we're a cat at.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
But no, it's it was. It was just cool.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Like I really was more overwhelmed with like just how
cool the league was, and like the culmination of everything
and like the finality of it, Like it was such
an awesome experience, an awesome year.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I feel so fortunate to have been a part.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Of it and to be been on so many matches
and and to even get closer with with players I
never coached.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know, I.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Recruited a lot of these players and it all come
to where I was, but I knew a lot and
I don't know, for me, it's so rewarding to see
them all grow and develop and these amazing women, These
are grown women that are out there just crushing it,
and it's just, you know, you see the babies and
the kids and all, you know, everyone's got that, like
(19:40):
Carly's kids, and you know, like, what are we doing,
Julianne and we've got It's just it's overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, it's it's cool.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I know Kat kids all the things, and even the
Omaha team, Like I'm really close.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
With Jordan Larson. I'm really you know.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I I love just seeing we'd have a good relationship
and Lauren stibbns and like, I just feel connected to everybody,
and so I don't know, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I felt it was tough and it was awesome, and
it was it was a.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Lot serving pancakes will be right back. So You've been
around a lot of volleyball leagues, a lot of volleyball teams,
(20:32):
players and stuff. I'm curious what your thought was overall
of this league in this inaugural year, because I mean
it was the first year, right, there's gonna be hiccups
for everything in the first year. But I'm just curious, like,
with everything that you've seen, what did you think?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I thought it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean the level of play, Like every time I
was calling a match, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's crazy, Like that's what I was thinking in my head.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I wanted to say it every play was out ball,
like what is happening right now?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And then I'm like, I need to go back to
my gym.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We got to like all the things, but I just
thought the level top to bottom, like and.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Mostly there was so much.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But like, the defense was crazy this season, Like these
women are crushing the ball like bouncing and they're just
scooping like middle back scoop.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Perfect, Like what is that? Like it looked Kelsey Robinson
Cook like.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Digging and transition the season was crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Happening like that was for me, probably the most impressive thing,
like not just digging, like the quality of the touch,
the ability to get a swing off, like a good
swing off of it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All season long. Sorry, I'm getting all fired up about it.
That is like, holy moly. So what was the question?
It was great just about the league.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm I'm talking about about the league and then in
your perspective of it, and I one hundred percent agree
with you. I feel like that was one of the
things that I absolutely loved about watching this league was,
as you said, the defense, because to me, I love
a long rally. I love a long rally and as
like a liberro, to me, I'm just like all about
the defense. So the longer you can keep the ball
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in the air, I'm.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Like, let's go.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It was it was amazing and just yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Going back to the match real quick, I'm curious because
you know, we mentioned Logan, we mentioned obviously Madison Skinner,
but tell me who from this match did you kind
of think was an unsung hero, someone who like deserves
a little bit of recognition, whose name hasn't really come
out that much.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'm going to say my voter is for Carli Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Carly has been a soldier to this entire season, and
you know, we haven't seen a lot of her starting
a lot this season, but TiO to start that match
in the finals was very well.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Deserved and it was a given.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know, she ran a great offense coming in for
Stage versus Atlanta, and it only made it to start
her with the finals, and she was fantastic.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So I would definitely say Carli Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I would agree. I mean, I've seen her for a
millillion years.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Honestly, that might be one of the best matches, the
cleanest matches I've seen her play. I don't know, I
might be crazy, but like every ball was located exactly
where it needed to be, how she was blocking, how
she was.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Leading, It was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So I agree with you, Kat yeah, played out of
her mind. She, like Carly, has one of those very
like intense personalities. And to see her last night, it
was almost like she was calm and she was in
her rhythm. It was almost like she was in her skin,
you know. And that was one thing I was talking
to her about after Atlanta matched. I was like, dude,
you've always had to send it in you you know
what I'm saying, like, keep driving off of that like
you got you don't have to overthink anything like this
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is who you are, you know, and being able to
winness her out there and play the way she did,
and we always we've been talking about this rally since
yesterday about you know, it was kind of a long
rally and then she just took advantage of the point
herself and dumped the ball and was like come on,
you know, like we'll stop messing around, stop playing with
our food, you know, let's put it away. So she
was fantastic last night.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I just said her as due though, Kay, you know
a little bit, you know, I do a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I do a little.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The cows.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The cows, what about.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
On Oma, I want to give them a little bit
of love. So who won Omaha. Do you want to
give a shout out to because of their performance in
the finals.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you have to give Jordan
Larson so much credit all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, she was.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Getting tons of swings, like because.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They had to write, the ball was off the net
a lot, and she was back.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
She was doing everything she possibly could to make it
happen for her team right, to will her team into
a victory. So I'm always I'm always in tune with
kind of that piece of it when things aren't going
well on the other side.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That was that was tough.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
But you know, Sammy Francis, you know, stepped up and
she she got her stuff done right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
She's good man. She was really good in the Semis,
and you know, I just I think they're.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Overall, they started to find a little bit of a
groove as a team. But I don't know, I probably
would say, you know, Jordan Larson, Yeah, my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I would say Jordan as well to Sammy. You know,
like I said, it's a high pressure situation. And again
we haven't seen a lot of standing the season as
well too, so I've heard her come in and do
what she did and put on the showcase that she
for herself was great.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
So definitely those two women.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All right, So going back to the season overall, can
you guys share what some of your favorite moments were.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Obviously my winning was winning obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I mean, just I'm going to go back to the
moment in the video room, just like being able to
see everyone really bought in, and I think that was,
honestly the first time I can actually say we were
all on the same page just the entire season, and
that was just so cool to witness, until so cool
to feel like I just I just knew it in
my soul. I was like, oh, y'all are about that
action tomorrow or like I already know, Like it's not
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even gonna be the battles one, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
The battle was already one.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So many things we kept saying, you know, throughout the
week two. So being in that room, in that moment
was was very.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
That's a cool feeling, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I I don't know if it's like one defining, but
really there's there were a couple of moments, you know,
certainly when Madison was able to flip the script on
what was going on with them, like, you know, Annie
was struggling with her shoulder. They were just not they
couldn't get their offense going, and I just felt like
it was, Oh, it was so tough.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It was tough to watch, and he felt for him.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right, and then Annie comes back, Lauren's in her mode,
and when Annie was good and CARLINI was just doing
just being able to set like instead of having to
feel like what do I do?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now? What do I do? I can again.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I didn't even ask her about that. That's just my perspective.
Everything shifted, So that was a cool thing. I was like,
thank goodness they figured it out right in the ship
and they were on a tear, so I don't know,
that was a that was a neat moment for me,
you know, from a team's perspective, seeing them figured it
out and turn it around this.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Season, that was that was one that stood out.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, Madison turned around was really cool to watch because
I was thinking to myself, I was like, oh, man,
and I don't want to have one team that's just
like struggling so much with only one win this season.
Then all of a sudden, they're like, oh, watch out, Houston,
like we might take your number.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Two spot on this call.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Let's go, So, what from this season that you guys
saw are you hoping that the league takes to next
year to year two or what are some things that
you're hoping to, you know, see that didn't happen this year.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
One thing I really do appreciate from into double A.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't know if it's a certain mic that they use,
but the ball, like from the contact off the ball intoubla.
Watching them TV is loud and I would love to
hear that like pounding on the screen, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So hopefully that's something I would like to see kind
of adjusted for us. Also, the player's box, the bench box.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't like that we were had to kind of
go to the back. I didn't follow the rules, I
did not, but I made sure I was not in
people's way, you know. But that's something we can actually
kind of move forward a little bit. Then I think
I just continue and bring in great athletes and great
professional athletes to represent the league so well and compete
hard and bring in continue to bring in an audience
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and just enjoying this opportunity to be here in the States.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, No, those are those are good things.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
And Cat I know there's some time we were trying
to get some different mic things. We're like, all right,
you know what I'm talking about though, right exactly where,
I know exactly what, and we like and because there
were so many there were so many matches and sometimes
we were like, you know, stretched thin with camera or
mics or whatever it was, or how many were at
each site, it was like, okay, we can we can
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do this if and so those are some things they're
working on.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Even hearing you guys like that's what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
The chatter.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I'm like, let's just listen to them in between plays,
like you know, so hopefully. I mean, I'm not saying
it's coming. I also want it, so I'll work on.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, I would say, less fog machine, more mics, let's
let's smoke.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Of the best.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I understand, and I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Bring in players, you know, and and Rosie who's the
president of Leewan Pro Volleyball. She she alluded to that
in our we did a little press conference yesterday and
that you know, there'll see be some some big time
players coming in. She didn't give out away any secrets,
but some really good things, you know, I bet you do, so.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That that would be good.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And like you said, you know, I know their focus
was getting the players, getting the right players, getting this,
you know, everything they were doing with ESPN and focusing
on getting the right coaches like so many things.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And now the marketing push is going to be huge.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
That's gonna be fun to watch watch the audiences grow
and and just the whole game grow.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Actually, Kat, because you did have some foreign players on
your team, like Koto, what did they think about this
first year playing in the United States.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They honestly are going to stay around for a little bit. Actually,
they enjoy it. They love being here.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Actually, I think it was such a different environment Tote,
you know, she did because in Japan and practices are
a lot longer, very much, a lot more brutal as well.
She was like, oh, just two hours, that's it. Yeah, girl,
go tricks water.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Like, no one's gonna yell at me. No, we ain't
doing that over here. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So but yeah, I think they really enjoyed it, and
I'm looking forward to next season amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And the off season is here now until preseason starts
in October, I believe so kat what are you doing
this offseason?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
So currently, I sign a contract to play for COGWS
Kriolis here in Puerto Rico, so that's the offeason is playing.
I'm gonna run some camps, big time camps with some
of the love athletes this summer, and then I'll be
participating in the AU League as well before we start
a fire preseason and.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You gets to play against chi in this Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, it's been announced that Chiyaka's playing for Guanabo, which
is a team we play off.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
So it's the semi finals right now.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
My team is up three to two in the series,
so she has to win just to play again to
go to the finals.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
So I told she, you know, just pack a carry
on because you're going you go be home.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You're going home on the weekend, so just packed swimsuits
for vacation.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
You're ridiculous. When when do you play?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
When's the first we'll playdes Wednesday? Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, uh huh, So we're we're If we win, we
go to the finals. And then I just got news
as well that Molly maybe could go to contract with
the team that's already in the finals as well, So
she was like, you know what, because we get paid
by the mess. She's like, you don't want to make
it interested in, No, thank you, I want to. I
want to just know. I want to just go home.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Keep the streak going, the sweet streak going.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, it sounds incredible. So I just said, just pack
a light bag.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Amazing. Well, Selima, Kat, it's been a pleasure talking finals,
talking League one Volleyball and wrapping this season up with
YouTube Cat. It's been so fun having you on the
podcast this season.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Thanks. I've enjoyed my time. Thank you, and.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Thank you guys so much, and thanks to all the listeners.
We're going to be taking a break this off season,
but thank.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You, ladies, and thank you thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, thank you. Serving Pancakes is an iHeart women's sports
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I'm your host Tiffany Oshinsky. My co host is Kat Bell.
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Hey, Serving Pancakes listeners, Tiffany here with a quick shout
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slash US slash l OVB. Hurry, these things are going
fast and once they're gone, they're gone. Don't miss out
on your chance to be part of history. Hi. I'm
Tiffany Oshinski and I'm Kat Bell, and this is Serving
Pancakes with League one Volleyball. We have a special episode
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today to recap the inaugural Love Finals championship match where
Love Austin swept Love Omaha twenty five, nineteen twenty five,
twenty two, twenty five, twenty three. Along with my amazing
co host Kat, who will give us a first hand
look from the championship team, we also have the great
Salima Rockwell joining us. So excited to have you here. Salima,
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thankkeep for happing me, of course, for the volleyball world,
for the volleyball fans you all know Salima, But I'm
gonna give a quick background. Salima was a three time
All American at Penn State from nineteen ninety one to
ninety four, and a two time team captain for the
US women's national team during her time on the squad
from ninety five to ninety nine. She then had multiple
assistant coaching jobs at Pittsburgh Penn State in Texas when
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Kat was there, and helped Longhorns win a national title
in twenty twelve. Salima retired briefly from coaching in twenty eighteen,
but got scooped back up in twenty twenty two to
become the head coach at Notre Dame, where she still
is today. Salema has also announced college and international games,
and was part of the broadcasting crew for both men's
and women's indoor volleyball at the twenty twenty four Summer Olympics.
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She's also part of the League One Volleyball broadcast crew.
And now we get to have her on the show
to talk all things Love Finals.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, Selema, welcome to Serving Pancakes.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I've watched all the time and I'm just I'm excited
to be invited and to be a part of this
amazing little thing.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You guys are doing well.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Thank you. We're excited to have you and the obviously
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Kat, Yeah, I think this may be my favorite episode
so far. You know, Selema has been such an amazing
inspirational woman to me in my life, and being able
to have her on here just tonight, I'm really excited.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So thank you for coming with us. I love you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Thanks so sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
All right, so Selena, you were and Louisville this weekend. Kat,
you obviously were there this weekend because not only did
Love Austin played, but you guys won the championship. So
I need to know who had the most fun.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Cat, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
My voice is just now starting to kind of come
back around. Honestly, like last night, this morning, I couldn't
say anything. I was drinking tea and coffee, sucking on
these little like honey straws and everything.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
So it was we had a great time. Last night
was definitely a party.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You said before when we did the recap of the
quarterfinals since semifinals that you ladies were ready, that you
just could tell you that you guys clicked. You're ready,
So talk to me about coming into the finals. What
was it like? Were you guys calm? Was their nerves?
Was it just like a hYP fest? What was it like?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You know, this season for us has been very up
and down, I think, and you know, you have some
of us who are like trying to strive and make
everything better and some of us kind of like, you know,
what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
How to confusion?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think once we made that coming back versus Atlanta,
the whole environment had changed. And I think everyone at
that moment going to that FULMB session versus Omaha, even
though we'd played Omaha multiple times of multiple occasions, everybody
was just fixating on that screen and locked in, and
I think it was one of those moments of like,
we're already here, who might as well just finish the job?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So it was definitely just a cool environment to be
in and just kind of be when what my team
is being really focused and I knew I knew, I knew.
I was like, oh yeah, I said, oh you guys
want to play volleyball now, huh okay, I see it
like I see it, So yeah, it'salia.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
What was your experience like, Well, I mean, first of all,
it's rare that I'm just a spectator, so I wasn't
calling the matches and I was on standby in case
it went three, which it did, and I was like,
we're gonna be here for five cents. I'm not even
gonna have to go on. And after the first set,
I was like, uh oh, but I mean it was
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I was kind of nervous. I can't even describe it,
you know, just as an athlete and you get these
matches in these environments where you're like, what's gonna happen?
Like this is I was kind of sweatinged before the match,
and I was just excited to see what was gonna unfold.
I mean, I obviously thought I had some ideas, but
you know, given the season, given what we just saw
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the night before, you absolutely never know.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
So it was so fun. It was so I was so.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Jacked and so excited just to see what was gonna happen,
and it was gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
For your prediction of the finals, you said that Austin
had a little bit of an edge, and you pointed
out specifically Madison Skinner too was the reason why there
was that little bit of an edge, and she obviously
went off. She was MVP of the match, So let's
get into this game a little bit and tell me
what you guys saw from Madison on the court.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
You know, I mean it was witness Madison every day
in practice working on her craft. Having Nicole Fausted also
in the gym is great. Nicole is one of the
best to ever do it, so people. To have her
in the gym and being coached by her definitely is
a tool that we were able to use and Madison
and one thing I was telling her just to grasp
that and whatever Nicole says, it's law, you know. So
being able to watch her grow and improve and build
her confidence on this stage has been amazing and she
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definitely showed that this weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, you know, I think from my perspective, not being
with the team, you're waiting for that just kind of
the shift you talked about Kat and in certain people
and in their demeanor and in their how to carry themselves.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
You could just see it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Even you know, in the semiis it was a different Madison.
And I not completely because she's a phenomenal player, right,
you know that she's going to play well, but throughout
the course of the season, watching her errors decrease, like
unforced there you know, or second guessing a swing, you know,
as a coach and some that's done it for a
long time, you can see that in a player when
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And man, it was just.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Like an aura around her that was like I am
this person now and you knew.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
That was why I said it the night because it's
hard to repeat those kind of nights.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
But you could see it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It wasn't gonna stop, it wasn't gonna end.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You could feel like if if she had five more
sets to play, she'd had fifty kills, not the twenty five,
and that for you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So that was that was part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But it was also I you know, I also talked
about the energy of the team. You could you could
feel it was palpable right, and over the course of
probably the last month, you could see that it was there, right.
And then they lost three five setters before even getting
to you know, to the championships, and it was right
there for the taking. So I don't know, I just
saw this trajectory and I was like, I don't think
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they're gonna slow down.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And we took off. We took off. Baby.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I feel like you got the good vibes from Madison too,
because this was her fourth championship in five years. Like
she's just bringing the titles. It really helps.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It absolutely helps Selima.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Now as a coach, you are able to see, you know,
a lot of different things that the fans can't see
from their couch. So can you give me some of
the big takeaways that you took from this match?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, I mean one of the biggest things was the
passing on the side of Austin. That was another thing
that had been kind of their achilles, right. They had
moments where they could do it, but like overall and
Logan Eggleston like was just unreal. I mean at the
first set she was like sixty seven percent perfect pass.
I was keeping track of everything, so I had it
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in my head and it was nuts and I was like, okay,
so right now Austin is out passing omaha. So the
third pass game was completely flipped on its head. So
that for me was like, uh oh, they can't have
the firepower that they have and pass the ball well,
get the middles involved, Like that's going to be trouble.
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So so that was one thing that I saw, you know,
just overall that that was something that Austin brought that.
It was just clean every phase of the game. And it's,
like you said, Kat, like the lock in of the film.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I could see it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I was like, they are so fully dialed into the scout.
It was like, Yep, this is where it's going. Yep,
this is what happened. We're serving here, We're gonna send
you blocks here. Like it is a pretty thing to
watch actually from a coaching stampoint.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
My favorite part is when Chris asked, He's like any
questions and the room's like silent.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
He's like, oh, okay, we all know. Yeah, that means
we got it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I was amazed to see how you guys were. I mean, like,
Justine is gonna Justine and she was still amazing, but
I feel like she wasn't Justine that we saw the
past two nights. I feel like you guys somehow managed
to get past her or to have her pass off
the net a lot. And I was just like they
got this, like they came with that fire.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
We talked about a lot about that, you know, because
like you know, Justine is their their armor when it
comes to passing wells good, you know, so we're talking
about just saying, okay, we don't wwn a circle Lebero.
Obviously it's who she is. But when you can jump
one in there just to catch her off guard, and
that's what was happening. So we would maybe every four
to five thirds launched one at her and then she
wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
We'll we get in my house in a little bit,
so we definitely have that's part of the game.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Serving pancakes will be right back. Okay, Austin basically kind
of took over this match, right. I don't even think
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Omaha led until the third set when they got that
first point. Like that's how dominant you guys were. So
in those first two sets when Omaha was calling those timeouts,
what was kind of being said.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I mean, just being patient, stayed in the course.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
That's actually funny that you said that, because also in
the third set, when they got that first point, it
shook me a little bit, soil I was like, oh, wait,
every set before this one, we've always got the first,
you know, first one or two points first, so you know,
just it was okay, and you know they're they're trying
to figure some stuff out, but let's just keep doing
what we're doing stay focused. The biggest thing was just
staying focused. I think that during the third set, you know,
kind of towards the middle, we kind of broke down
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a little bit of passing and miscommunication almost like we were
forgetting what we were doing, and we had to kind
of come back together and say, Okay, you know what,
let's be focus, regroup here, remember what we're doing, what
our jobs are, and then go back out there do it.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
So just trying to be paid. I just don't just
be patient, be patient, be patient, Selima.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you were a coach Susy France on Omaha, how
would you have handled those timeouts?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, you know, it's hard when someone's bringing their A
game at you, right, you just have to you have
to weather the storm a little bit. Right, You're like, okay,
they're playing their best volleyball, and quite frankly, it's hard
to sustain that level of play. Set to set to set,
you know, and it's like, all right, hey, we're going
to settle in here. It was really their passing. They
got so pindominant, it was so heavy. When they caught
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up is when they were able to get sad with
the ball a little bit in the middle, when those
moments you were talking about Kat where things broke down
on your side of hair.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
But that's what they needed to do.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And so, you know, my conversation is, Hey, we're just
gonna have to be patient.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Madison's gonna get her bomb kills.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
That's okay, you know, but we gotta be smart with
what we're doing around their block. That's that's the problem too.
There were so many things that they were doing well.
Number one blocking team. You're know they're gonna block well,
but we've got a chip, we've got a tool. We
gotta make some stuff happen. And shoot, they were trying,
but Austome was just smothering, you know, surrounding.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I mean, it was it sixteen blocks. I don't even remember.
I think it was sixteen. I just kept going, oh
my gosh, no, no, we're in set two. It's nine
ten eleven. Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So that's what I would say, Hey, let's be a
little more patient with our swings. Let's just high and flat.
And I'm sure she's having those conversations. Sometimes it's hard
to do when you're way off the next your way
out of system.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
It's just hard.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, for sure. As a former volleyball player and as
a coach when you were on the sideline watching, like
did you just want to get down there, whether it
was like the player like to be on the sideline,
I like, talk to them.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
You've no idea.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I always want to get down I want to be
on the court, you know what.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Ian like not coaching that because no, I just want
to try to help, but they have to pass perfectly
for me to actually help and be able to set something.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Can'tfully run that fast.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
But like I'm always.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Like, ah, like I'm a crazy person watching vollegules. So
you know, and you wanted it to be a really
really compelling match, and you wanted, omah, how to do well.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, you.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Wanted to see that battle of these teams. So there's
so many things going through your mind. You know, like
it's cool to see this team dominate and finally figure
it out. But then it's like, ah, this kind of
stinks for omaha right now. You know, I went through
a lot of emotions. It was a it was a
roller coaster for me, but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
We had a watch party, so we had like a
bunch of our friends over and their kids and like
the moms, we all played volleyball, and so we were
all like after the second set, we're like, you know,
we're cheering for you, Cat, we're cheering for Austin in
that regard. But I'm like, we all want Omaha to
kind of like win us that because we're like, we
don't want this to end yet, like we wanted we
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want to know, you.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Know everyone, you guys see you know what.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I can feel that from the bench, I can feel
there was like that wishful thinking about hope that maybe
Omahawk can just no, let us be in and out.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I was like, we're not going to four or five
because I'm like, this is I don't even want the headache.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
And that's real though, right Cat, Like it's like, yeah,
we give up this set anything it gets shaky.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, you know, It's like I was like, keep your
freaking foots on their necks, like keep going, you know.
Just at one point, even in the third set, and
so the score was tight and it was tied up
at one point, and I.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Was like, yo, hey, I was getting mad. I looked
at it. I looked at all there in her eyes.
She looked kind of scared.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But you know, I'm gonna need you to I'm gonna
need you to do out do that out there right now,
right now.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It was one of those tight points and you guys
are about to serve, and Molly got that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Molly's stance just.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Got it like crouching tiger, like she's a little more
like ready to pounce of like uh oh.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Something, something's about to happen here.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Because I was yelling too, I was like, show.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Me something, show.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Come on, I get chills again. That was so crazy.
It still feels like a dream, honestly, Like I was
this morning. All day today, I was just telling Tiffany,
I finally just kind of feel tired because I've been.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
On such a high all day.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean I woke up like smiling, you know, and
I almost feel bad because I know, like everyone wanted
to win, and I know there was teams that obviously
played well the entire season and probably were predicted to
be in the finals.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
That kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
So I was telling Michael Hancock last night, I almost
feel bad about like being happy or like, you know,
around people, and she was like forget that. She was like, dude,
like that's part of the game. She was like, you
guys earn it tonight. You know, it doesn't matter. You
guys came out tonight and played your best. And she's like,
that's part of it. She's like, no, like talk to
your stuff. And I was like, yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's such ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But it's such a lesson, Pat.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
This is what I love about so many young players
watching that, young players, college players, right, it is such
a lesson in how the gate you can just leave
one game behind you, one part of a season, one thing.
It like, it can always start over, you can always
shift things, you can always make something happen. And I
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think that's you know, the cool part of your season was.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was nuts. It was crazy and it was not
great and it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Was all over the place and you were struggling and
then still losing and trying to figure it out. Like
what a cool storybook ending, you know, like there's a
pretty neat moment.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Would have been.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Cool if no number one seed one like that would
have been awesome. They dominated whoo, but like all the
stories would have been intriguing and compelling. But that's just
really like you said, that's the game, you know, you
never know.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, we're saying we pulled up we put off the
biggest higsts in twenty twenty five. Right now it's giving robbery.
I said, we all should be in jail. That's how bad.
It's like the biggest highest of twenty.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Twenty five, biggest ice bamboos league bam thrustled.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But not only bamboozled the league, but you also came
away with two hundred thousand dollars a Tiffany necklace and
Tifany literally from this lea.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
No, but for real? I asked Tom.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I was like, how much does mexicost I was like,
I know the necklace costs a lot of money, so
I didn't say it's a Tiffany's necklace.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
It's gold. It's like it's like they have one that's
like a small It looks like a smile to me,
that's what it looks like. And they have one that's small,
but we have the big one. The big ones had
a little nice price tag on it. So I looked
at it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Of course you did.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I looked at it.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I wanted to make sure what's around my neck? I
need to know. I had to look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh my gosh, I want to I want to know,
because like I've never won a championship, right, Like I've
won my Beer League championships. But that's completely different than
like confetti falling from the sky.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It's something. It's something.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, I get one hundred and twenty five dollars gift
card to the bar, which is great, but it's not
confetti falling on like on the court. It's not all
of a sudden camera flashes and people putting cameras in
your face and cheering for you and everyone like crying
and tears and happiness and like hoisting a giant trophy.
So I want to know, like what is it like
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once you win that title, Like take me through the
process as a player of like what happens next, because
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, honestly, it's almost like a blackout, you know,
like you know, once you realize that the game is
over and that you actually won, it's you're just overwhelmed
so many emotions.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know, you're just trying to get in that huddle.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Like we didn't do a dog file because I think
we're all too old dog files and I think that
would just would have been terrible. A dog a grave
yard bodies just would have been on the ground and
not gonna be able to get that. But there's so
many emotions and again, I don't even think I really
settled into it until maybe, like I still haven't. Honestly,
I still haven't. I'm still like processing the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
But you know, you're just being in that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Moment and living in those those your friends and your
teammates and you know, just embracing each other and just
taking it all in.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You know, I think you don't really see the cameras.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
You don't really see everyone looking at you, cheering there,
see the feel you see the confetti, But it's like
when you catch those eyes, the ones that you've been
in the gym with it to the past have I
mean amounts you've been training with and you know and
understand the grit you guys are going through to get
to where you are now.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
And that's just where it is.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So yeah, Selima, did you feel like a proud mom
I'm watching cat out there when with that trophy, with
the confetti falling, I sure do all the time.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
I feel like a proud mom.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm just like you.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And as another podcast or whatever this is, that's a
whole like just her development and her growth as a
person and as a human and as a all the things.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I'm I'm always Lemann. When I was bad, lemannew me
when I was bad.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Relative just got a rain, got in a little bit,
come about it in the mows, right, we're a cat at.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
But no, it's it was. It was just cool.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Like I really was more overwhelmed with like just how
cool the league was, and like the culmination of everything
and like the finality of it, Like it was such
an awesome experience, an awesome year.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I feel so fortunate to have been a part.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Of it and to be been on so many matches
and and to even get closer with with players I
never coached.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know, I.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Recruited a lot of these players and it all come
to where I was, but I knew a lot and
I don't know, for me, it's so rewarding to see
them all grow and develop and these amazing women, These
are grown women that are out there just crushing it,
and it's just, you know, you see the babies and
the kids and all, you know, everyone's got that, like
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Carly's kids, and you know, like, what are we doing,
Julianne and we've got It's just it's overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, it's it's cool.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I know Kat kids all the things, and even the
Omaha team, Like I'm really close.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
With Jordan Larson. I'm really you know.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I I love just seeing we'd have a good relationship
and Lauren stibbns and like, I just feel connected to everybody,
and so I don't know, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I felt it was tough and it was awesome, and
it was it was a.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Lot serving pancakes will be right back. So You've been
around a lot of volleyball leagues, a lot of volleyball teams,
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players and stuff. I'm curious what your thought was overall
of this league in this inaugural year, because I mean
it was the first year, right, there's gonna be hiccups
for everything in the first year. But I'm just curious, like,
with everything that you've seen, what did you think?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I thought it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean the level of play, Like every time I
was calling a match, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's crazy, Like that's what I was thinking in my head.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I wanted to say it every play was out ball,
like what is happening right now?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And then I'm like, I need to go back to
my gym.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
We got to like all the things, but I just
thought the level top to bottom, like and.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Mostly there was so much.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But like, the defense was crazy this season, Like these
women are crushing the ball like bouncing and they're just
scooping like middle back scoop.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Perfect, Like what is that? Like it looked Kelsey Robinson
Cook like.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Digging and transition the season was crazy.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Happening like that was for me, probably the most impressive thing,
like not just digging, like the quality of the touch,
the ability to get a swing off, like a good
swing off of it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
All season long. Sorry, I'm getting all fired up about it.
That is like, holy moly. So what was the question?
It was great just about the league.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm I'm talking about about the league and then in
your perspective of it, and I one hundred percent agree
with you. I feel like that was one of the
things that I absolutely loved about watching this league was,
as you said, the defense, because to me, I love
a long rally. I love a long rally and as
like a liberro, to me, I'm just like all about
the defense. So the longer you can keep the ball
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in the air, I'm.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Like, let's go.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It was it was amazing and just yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Going back to the match real quick, I'm curious because
you know, we mentioned Logan, we mentioned obviously Madison Skinner,
but tell me who from this match did you kind
of think was an unsung hero, someone who like deserves
a little bit of recognition, whose name hasn't really come
out that much.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
I'm going to say my voter is for Carli Lloyd.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Carly has been a soldier to this entire season, and
you know, we haven't seen a lot of her starting
a lot this season, but TiO to start that match
in the finals was very well.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Deserved and it was a given.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know, she ran a great offense coming in for
Stage versus Atlanta, and it only made it to start
her with the finals, and she was fantastic.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
So I would definitely say Carli Lloyd.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I would agree. I mean, I've seen her for a
millillion years.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Honestly, that might be one of the best matches, the
cleanest matches I've seen her play. I don't know, I
might be crazy, but like every ball was located exactly
where it needed to be, how she was blocking, how
she was.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Leading, It was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So I agree with you, Kat yeah, played out of
her mind. She, like Carly, has one of those very
like intense personalities. And to see her last night, it
was almost like she was calm and she was in
her rhythm. It was almost like she was in her skin,
you know. And that was one thing I was talking
to her about after Atlanta matched. I was like, dude,
you've always had to send it in you you know
what I'm saying, like, keep driving off of that like
you got you don't have to overthink anything like this
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is who you are, you know, and being able to
winness her out there and play the way she did,
and we always we've been talking about this rally since
yesterday about you know, it was kind of a long
rally and then she just took advantage of the point
herself and dumped the ball and was like come on,
you know, like we'll stop messing around, stop playing with
our food, you know, let's put it away. So she
was fantastic last night.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I just said her as due though, Kay, you know
a little bit, you know, I do a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
I do a little.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The cows.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The cows, what about.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
On Oma, I want to give them a little bit
of love. So who won Omaha. Do you want to
give a shout out to because of their performance in
the finals.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, you have to give Jordan
Larson so much credit all the time.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, she was.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Getting tons of swings, like because.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They had to write, the ball was off the net
a lot, and she was back.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
She was doing everything she possibly could to make it
happen for her team right, to will her team into
a victory. So I'm always I'm always in tune with
kind of that piece of it when things aren't going
well on the other side.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That was that was tough.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
But you know, Sammy Francis, you know, stepped up and
she she got her stuff done right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
She's good man. She was really good in the Semis,
and you know, I just I think they're.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Overall, they started to find a little bit of a
groove as a team. But I don't know, I probably
would say, you know, Jordan Larson, Yeah, my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I would say Jordan as well to Sammy. You know,
like I said, it's a high pressure situation. And again
we haven't seen a lot of standing the season as
well too, so I've heard her come in and do
what she did and put on the showcase that she
for herself was great.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
So definitely those two women.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All right, So going back to the season overall, can
you guys share what some of your favorite moments were.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Obviously my winning was winning obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I mean, just I'm going to go back to the
moment in the video room, just like being able to
see everyone really bought in, and I think that was,
honestly the first time I can actually say we were
all on the same page just the entire season, and
that was just so cool to witness, until so cool
to feel like I just I just knew it in
my soul. I was like, oh, y'all are about that
action tomorrow or like I already know, Like it's not
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even gonna be the battles one, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
The battle was already one.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So many things we kept saying, you know, throughout the
week two. So being in that room, in that moment
was was very.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
That's a cool feeling, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I I don't know if it's like one defining, but
really there's there were a couple of moments, you know,
certainly when Madison was able to flip the script on
what was going on with them, like, you know, Annie
was struggling with her shoulder. They were just not they
couldn't get their offense going, and I just felt like
it was, Oh, it was so tough.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
It was tough to watch, and he felt for him.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Right, and then Annie comes back, Lauren's in her mode,
and when Annie was good and CARLINI was just doing
just being able to set like instead of having to
feel like what do I do?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now? What do I do? I can again.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I didn't even ask her about that. That's just my perspective.
Everything shifted, So that was a cool thing. I was like,
thank goodness they figured it out right in the ship
and they were on a tear, so I don't know,
that was a that was a neat moment for me,
you know, from a team's perspective, seeing them figured it
out and turn it around this.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Season, that was that was one that stood out.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, Madison turned around was really cool to watch because
I was thinking to myself, I was like, oh, man,
and I don't want to have one team that's just
like struggling so much with only one win this season.
Then all of a sudden, they're like, oh, watch out, Houston,
like we might take your number.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Two spot on this call.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Let's go, So, what from this season that you guys
saw are you hoping that the league takes to next
year to year two or what are some things that
you're hoping to, you know, see that didn't happen this year.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
One thing I really do appreciate from into double A.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't know if it's a certain mic that they use,
but the ball, like from the contact off the ball intoubla.
Watching them TV is loud and I would love to
hear that like pounding on the screen, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So hopefully that's something I would like to see kind
of adjusted for us. Also, the player's box, the bench box.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't like that we were had to kind of
go to the back. I didn't follow the rules, I
did not, but I made sure I was not in
people's way, you know. But that's something we can actually
kind of move forward a little bit. Then I think
I just continue and bring in great athletes and great
professional athletes to represent the league so well and compete
hard and bring in continue to bring in an audience
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and just enjoying this opportunity to be here in the States.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, No, those are those are good things.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
And Cat I know there's some time we were trying
to get some different mic things. We're like, all right,
you know what I'm talking about though, right exactly where,
I know exactly what, and we like and because there
were so many there were so many matches and sometimes
we were like, you know, stretched thin with camera or
mics or whatever it was, or how many were at
each site, it was like, okay, we can we can
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do this if and so those are some things they're
working on.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Even hearing you guys like that's what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
The chatter.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I'm like, let's just listen to them in between plays,
like you know, so hopefully. I mean, I'm not saying
it's coming. I also want it, so I'll work on.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, I would say, less fog machine, more mics, let's
let's smoke.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Of the best.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I understand, and I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Bring in players, you know, and and Rosie who's the
president of Leewan Pro Volleyball. She she alluded to that
in our we did a little press conference yesterday and
that you know, there'll see be some some big time
players coming in. She didn't give out away any secrets,
but some really good things, you know, I bet you do, so.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
That that would be good.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
And like you said, you know, I know their focus
was getting the players, getting the right players, getting this,
you know, everything they were doing with ESPN and focusing
on getting the right coaches like so many things.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And now the marketing push is going to be huge.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
That's gonna be fun to watch watch the audiences grow
and and just the whole game grow.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Actually, Kat, because you did have some foreign players on
your team, like Koto, what did they think about this
first year playing in the United States.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They honestly are going to stay around for a little bit. Actually,
they enjoy it. They love being here.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Actually, I think it was such a different environment Tote,
you know, she did because in Japan and practices are
a lot longer, very much, a lot more brutal as well.
She was like, oh, just two hours, that's it. Yeah, girl,
go tricks water.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Like, no one's gonna yell at me. No, we ain't
doing that over here. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So but yeah, I think they really enjoyed it, and
I'm looking forward to next season amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And the off season is here now until preseason starts
in October, I believe so kat what are you doing
this offseason?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
So currently, I sign a contract to play for COGWS
Kriolis here in Puerto Rico, so that's the offeason is playing.
I'm gonna run some camps, big time camps with some
of the love athletes this summer, and then I'll be
participating in the AU League as well before we start
a fire preseason and.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You gets to play against chi in this Puerto Rican.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, it's been announced that Chiyaka's playing for Guanabo, which
is a team we play off.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
So it's the semi finals right now.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
My team is up three to two in the series,
so she has to win just to play again to
go to the finals.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
So I told she, you know, just pack a carry
on because you're going you go be home.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You're going home on the weekend, so just packed swimsuits
for vacation.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
You're ridiculous. When when do you play?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
When's the first we'll playdes Wednesday? Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, uh huh, So we're we're If we win, we
go to the finals. And then I just got news
as well that Molly maybe could go to contract with
the team that's already in the finals as well, So
she was like, you know what, because we get paid
by the mess. She's like, you don't want to make
it interested in, No, thank you, I want to. I
want to just know. I want to just go home.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Keep the streak going, the sweet streak going.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, it sounds incredible. So I just said, just pack
a light bag.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Amazing. Well, Selima, Kat, it's been a pleasure talking finals,
talking League one Volleyball and wrapping this season up with
YouTube Cat. It's been so fun having you on the
podcast this season.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Thanks. I've enjoyed my time. Thank you, and.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Thank you guys so much, and thanks to all the listeners.
We're going to be taking a break this off season,
but thank.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You, ladies, and thank you thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, thank you. Serving Pancakes is an iHeart women's sports
production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You
can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts. Production by League one Volleyball.
I'm your host Tiffany Oshinsky. My co host is Kat Bell.
(32:13):
Anya Alvarez is our senior producer. Our executive producers are
Carrie Stett, Tamaradike, and Lindsay Hoffman. Our marketing lead is
Juara Parker. Sound editing and mixing by Daniel Gonzalez. Our
theme music is Pancakes by Eric W. Mass Junior Special
thanks to Selima Rockwell. We hope you enjoyed this season
(32:35):
of serving pancakes. Thanks for listening.
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