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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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(00:44):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

(01:07):
that our loved ones have survived physical debt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. This past week,
I had a very moving conversation with doctor Mark Pittstick.
Mark is the director and one of the co founders
of the Soulfoone Foundation. He has over forty seven years
experience and training in hospitals, pastoral counseling settings, mental health centers,

(01:33):
and in private practice. He's the author of many books,
including The Eleven Questions, Everything You Wanted to Know about Life,
Death and the Afterlife, The Afterlife Evidence, Comforting and Convincing
Proof that no one really dies, and his latest book
is called Ask the Soul Doctor Holistic Solutions for Life's
Toughest Challenges. He's the creator of a documentary film about

(01:57):
the afterlife called soul Proof, and has many audio products
that include hypnosis and breath work and guided imagery. One
of them is called Facilitated After Death Contact. I want
to tell you his websites right here at the beginning,
because I know you're going to want to come back
and check him out. You can visit soulphone dot com,

(02:20):
soulproof dot com, and of course visit our friends at
Helpingparents Heal dot org. So now I'm going to pass
it over to Mark today.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I like to share a lot of hope, a lot
of information inspiration so people can remember this because it's
not so much a matter of learning as it is
remembering we're all eternal souls. We came Aaron took on
spiritual amnesia for good reasons.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
But it helps if.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
We remember even a little bit, so that then we
have this marvelous adventure versus this bearing horrible experience. When
I was six years old, my parents were showing me
a beautiful sun set, and I told him it reminded
me of God. My mom passed this year, so I'm
getting a little teared up thinking they're smiling down on this.

(03:09):
The sunset reminded me of God. They only told me
that twenty years later, when I was in theology school.
We went to Lutheran Church. As always God the Father,
this and that and so why would I have equated
a beautiful sunset with the ground of all being unless,
in fact I remembered at least partially from whence I came,

(03:30):
and it seems quite likely that I did.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Throughout my youth, I was different.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I know later in college, when I read Robert Heinland's
book A Stranger and a Strange Land, I said, that's it.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
That's how I felt. So I would look.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's almost like I was looking around and having to
figure out how to be a human. Some earthly ways
just didn't make sense, and I fell into meditative states easily.
Was bouncing a rubber baseball off of steps. I realized
two hours had passed. My family would watch sitcoms, which
drove me crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
So I went into.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Another room and was reading and doing stretches, which later
I discovered were yoga postures. And so when I was nineteen,
I discovered yoga. I discovered transcendental meditation, which I've used
for the most part for now fifty years. But all
that really took off when I was nineteen started working

(04:27):
as a respiratory therapist in hospitals part time as I
worked my way through pre med and theology school. Almost
every shift I worked night shift on weekends, I was
around people as they died, sometimes from chronic illness like emphysema,
smothering to death, sometimes suicide, gunshot wounds, getting hit by cars, etc.

(04:50):
The first hospital had a pediatric ward, so seeing little
children die just brought me to my knees. Because Lutherism
is wonderful religion, it's pretty mainstream. God is all knowing,
all loving, all powerful. If that's the case, why this
five year old get hit by a truck, and why
this three year old get abused to death by the

(05:13):
mom's boyfriend, and so it made me then search for
meaningful answers to life's biggest questions. Who are we, why
are we here? What happens after we die? Is there
really a god? If so, why is so much suffering?
And perhaps most importantly, how can we best live while we're.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
Having this earthly experience?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So after theology school, I became a clinical psychologist and
after that a doctor of chiropractic to put everything together
holistic healthcare, body mind, spirit wellness. And I did that
at least part time for thirty five years. I retired
a year and a half ago and now devoting my
full time efforts to soulproof dot com, which is my

(05:54):
website which has one hundred and twenty free articles on
anything you can think of when a loved one is murdered,
if you're thinking about suicide, everything, And then also the
sole Phone Project which you mentioned, which we'll talk about
more later, but basically official announcements of scientific proof of

(06:15):
life after death based on fifteen years of solid scientific research.
We're talking controlled studies, double blinded, multiple research settings, published
in peer review journals, all the hallmarks required for true
scientific research. It will be a fascinating year to announce

(06:36):
this and it really has not only the ability to
comfort and inspire people, but really to reach that tipping
point where enough of us awaken. It will only take
maybe ten percent of humans to remember who they are
to then bring in world peace, widespread conscious living.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, we have a lot to look forward to in
twenty twenty four, for sure. Mark, we're talking around the
holiday time. But whether it's holidays or an anniversary or birthday,
what evidence would you like to share about the Afterlife.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Can be a tough time or it can be a
special time. But some of these Shining Light parents I'm
working with, they use the word ascension, So when their
child passes, it's not he died on this date, it's
he ascended on this day.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
The evidence, First of all, the scientific evidence that life
continues after bodily death is summarized in article number one
at soulproof dot com. The clinical evidence in article number
sixty and clinical includes about eight categories of evidence their
death experiences, life between live sessions. Based on the work

(07:53):
of Michael Newton Evidential Mediums, which has been well researched,
and some of them are indeed very authentic terminal lucidity cases,
which are just fascinating deathbed visions. And then the third
category of afterlife evidence is termed experiential that is based
on firsthand experience, and that includes after death contacts experiences

(08:19):
people have. So for example, in nineteen ninety seven, I
was at a big retreat, holistic spiritual retreat, three hundred people.
I just ran six miles on the beach. I came
back and out in the water was my friend Laney,
and she was waving and with her was this big

(08:39):
guy and they were bobbing around and swimming and so on,
and she motioned me to come out, so I took
off everything with my running shorts and go out in
the ocean. And as I got out closer to her,
all of a sudden, I didn't see the guy anymore,
and I assumed he was under the water holding his breath.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
So I got up to him and I said, where's
that guy that was with you?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I saw him as clearly as I'm seeing you now,
And she said, one guy. I've been out here for
a half hour by myself, and like, oh, okay, that's
the kind of week it was. But when you have
an experience like that, you're like, Okay, there's more to
life than meet CI. So that's the evidence. And then
doctor Schwartz and I and Gary Schwartz, PhD. Former Harvard

(09:24):
and Yale professor, now senior professor at University of Arizona.
To learn about him, you can visit LACCH dot Arizona
dot edu and LACH is the Laboratory for Advances and
Constance and Health. We started working together seven years ago
and we wrote a book a year later called Greater

(09:46):
Reality Living, inviting people to consider how would they live
if they really knew all this evidence that no one
really dies. So after death contexts the acronym is AD
for short, So those are defined as any meaningful contact
with a loved one who's passed on, contact while awake

(10:09):
or asleep. I just got an email yesterday from a guy.
There are four really close friends and one of them
passed on, and he just said I talked to the
other two. They both had the same dream on the
same night about their quote deceased friend visiting. And he said,
what do you make of this?

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Said?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I make that your friend is a pretty serious dude
to be able to pull that off. So those we'll
call them post material persons, that is, who are no
longer living on Earth. EMPs are transmitting, especially around the
holidays and anniversaries and so on. They're standing out, and
what they're sending out is the same message. I'm alive

(10:53):
and I love you. I'm fine, We'll see each other again,
and we can now. I'm still part of your family.
I'm still your friend. I come in on birthdays and
for mediumistic greetings they can share like they can say yes,
I was there, I saw Tommy open his new present
and so on. They can provide details that there's no

(11:15):
way the medium could have known. Don't worry about me
and be happy. Shake off that sadness instead of being
sad about we're not together on Earth. Now, be glad
that I graduated from our school.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
And many cultures recognize that they celebrate when a loved
one passes. Why I train with Brian Wise to do
past life aggressions. Twenty five years ago he said Earth
is pretty much the toilet of the universe. Yeah, this
is one of the toughest places to be. When we
really get that, then we celebrate there a loved one's past,

(11:53):
so these after death contacts ADC's help us remember that
these little signs. It could be a light flicking, could
be a garage door opening and closing for some reason.
There could be small or more profound signs. I got
honored Bill Guggenheim, my dear friend who passed earlier this year,
and he wrote the book Hello from Heaven in his

(12:16):
wife at the time. They tell so many wonderful stories,
but they came up with the terms of evidentiary ADCs
and validation ADCs. The Guggenheims tell of a woman who
next door neighbor died and she came into her house
and there's the next door neighbor standing there in more
gauzy form, and she said, Wow.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
You're really real. Do you have a message for me?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
He said, yeah, I had a life insurance policy that
I didn't tell my wife about and it's taped above
a drawer in our bedroom. Would you please go over
there and tell her about because I wanted to be
able to cash it in. So a woman says, okay,
this is strange, goes over tell sir. They go to
the jar, pour it out, and there's a live insurance policy.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
We have to take a quick break and we'll be
right back with doctor Mark Pittstick. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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Speaker 6 (13:22):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
Now here's more Sandra on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of

(14:06):
the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine and we're talking to doctor
Mark Pittstick.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Dream a DC.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
You can say it's just a dream, but Carl Jung
was one of the first people to recognize that it
could be very real. His next door neighbor passed and
Carl was just falling asleep and atagogic state, but halfway
between waking and sleep, and his neighbor appeared at doctor
Young's for the bed. So they had a visit and

(14:37):
that Chad and Young had to wear with all to say,
how will I know this is really real and not
a dream? And the neighbor said, tomorrow, go next door,
ask my wife to let you in my library. Young
said he'd been there once or twice, but certainly didn't
memorize the entire library, because this is like stacks and rose.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
You had to get a ladder and so on.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
And he said, look on this shelf, they're a book
of this color by this name. This will be your sign.
Young did all that, found the book, and the book
was something like death is not Real. Young was convinced
all those synchronicities. So after death context, the first thing
I would say is cruss those little signs. A photo

(15:20):
tips repetitively and they straighten it up and it still tilts.
Some photos will fall over on a shelf. Just look
for those signs, ask for them, and know that they
can be real signs. However, it gets better than that.
Twenty years ago I had finished training with Brian Weiss,
as I mentioned, Raymond Moody on the psychomantein the Mirre

(15:43):
Engaging Technique, and then Ken Ring, and they all taught
me about the power of deep hypnosis or deep relaxation,
which I've been doing since nineteen eighty is a psychologist.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Doctor.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Ring, for example, found that you could have a life review,
just like near death experientures report after they nearly die.
You don't have to nearly die to have a life
review and consider how to improve your life make amends.
You can do this technique which he gave me his
blessing to use. So I put all those together and

(16:18):
realized I can use deep relaxation to stack the deck
to increase the chances of people having a meaningful experience.
Because ADCs are usually spontaneous. If a person has one,
it sticks with them throughout their lifetime.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
How about what are the things.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
We could do to increase the chances of having those
And I describe that in article number nine called visiting
your quote the part of loved Ones Now, and it's
about this facilitated ADC technique. As you well know, the
brain is our biggest enemy and perceiving the true nature raality.

(17:02):
Alexander and I had dinner a while back and talked
about this. He is a neurosurgeon and me as a
chiropractic physician. I mean, had lots of training on the
central nervous system. And it turns out that about ninety
percent of what the brain does is filled out events
in our world. Because if we could perceive everything that's

(17:22):
going on, we couldn't function. Some people experience that when
they have a psychotic break or when they take LSD
or something like that.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
So in the cave man and woman.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Days, it was evolutionarily functional adaptive to only see what
we needed to see to survive saber toothed tigers and
what berries we could eat and which ones were poisonous.
This is one of the reasons doctor Schwartz and I connected.
I had been using the metaphor of Lynn mctagger, who

(17:54):
wrote The Field, and she interviewed top quantum physicists and
they they're collected estimate was that if everything that really
exists in our world, that is energy, life, the life force,
that's what really exists.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
But if all that exists.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
With the size of Mount Everest, the portion the average
human can perceive would be the size of a golf ball.
And when I interview Gary from my radio show Ask
the Soul Doctors, he used the metaphor again based on
scientific data, that if all that exists in our world
were the size the height of the Empire State building,

(18:34):
the portion the average human can perceive would be the
height of a code of paint. That explains it all,
right there, That's the reason to engender these after death
communications by primarily quieting the brain because the brain is
wonderful or awake. I have ten things to do today,

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but it sucks when it comes.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
To perceive it more of reality.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Our angels, our guides, our master teachers, the light, and
our loved ones who have changed worlds. They're not a
million miles up in the sky somewhere, They're all around us.
So in this facilitated ADC technique, which is again described
in article number nine, and it's available soulproof dot com

(19:22):
slash shop for a whopping fifteen dollars for the digital audio. However,
if someone truly cannot afford it, email me Mark with
a K marketsoulproof dot com and we'll send you a
free copy. Same thing with all my seven books and
the ten audio products. That's how much I want to

(19:44):
help every person on our planet awaken.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
You know how beautiful it is.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
All of us have looked up the sky or been
by a lake or ocean and go, oh my god,
it's so beautiful, and all of them. The fighting and
so on we have is based on fear, and it's
based on ignorance about how life is set up. So
that's why it's so important we do it. So I
encourage people then to use this FADC technique and this

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is with your loved ones. I just ran a class
Tuesday evening with a group of parents and they reported
profound experiences with their kids.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
So that's the best way to start the new year.
You can have one guy.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think he's in the Philippines, and these people from
around the world. He just said, Mark, as soon as
you started this, I saw everybody, my daughter, my mom
and dad, my grandparents, my brother who passed.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
He said, they're like ten of them. He said. They
didn't say anything.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I said, that's because there's so many, he said, but
they just they all look so happy and healthy and whole,
and they just smiled at me, and I just felt
so good being in their presence. And this guy's crying
and he's thank you so much. I know so much
that it's real and they're really alive. And so it's

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such a gift to give yourself and others.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Even if you're not a parent. You can get all
of these videos. Just go to Helpingparents Heal dot org
or you'll see a link for YouTube videos, and then
you can also find many of these interviews and the
Affiliate Leader, Caring Listener interviews and you'll see that pop
up and just scroll down to the bottom. Lots and
lots and lots of interviews, Mark, I think one thing

(21:33):
people come up with so much, like you said, we
just chalk it off to our imagination.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I prefer not to use word imagination though, because it
has such a well entrench meaning of making something up.
I think one in fact, it's expanding our perceptions. And
one of the things I recommend to people is after
they have some of like I was, like, write it down,
because over time, these sacred experiences and more in to

(22:00):
oh that was my imagination because you're not sure the details,
Whereas if you take a record of it, then you
can go back and visit and makes it more real.
The other thing that we've learned, especially with the Soul
Firm project, which I'll talk about in a moment, is
that communicating with our loved ones who have changed worlds,
it's very much like making appointments here on earth.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
In other words, if.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
You want to talk to a friend over how this, Hey,
when's a good time for you? Okay, I'll call you
seven pm tomorrow. Just do that with your loved ones
who are no longer living on earth. Just say hey,
I'd like to visit with you. Set the time because
they're busy, they have all sorts of things going on,
and then get ready, maybe make two cups of tea,

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light a candle.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
In other words, how would you treat a beloved guess
who came to your house.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Do the same thing, and then sit there and talk
with them as though they really are there, because they
probably are, even if you can't see them, And then
ask a question or say something, and then just be
quiet and see what comes in. A lot of people
describe as coming in their sixth chakra or third eye.

(23:14):
They'll just get a telepathic message other people over their
heart chakra.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
And then just continue that.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
The more you do it, the more real it seems,
the better you get at it. And so I know
numerous people in fact interviewing these parents, several of them
have said, I'm close with my child now than when
he or she was living on earth because they were
so busy and they lived across the country, and now

(23:43):
we talk every day. Yeah, it's a great example how
can be when we remember how life is really set
up and take a few practical steps like that we're
talking about signs and contacts. Other share too. That happened
recently again with these interviews with these amazing parents from
Helping Parents Heal. The first is about our second week

(24:06):
of interviews. There were six moms waiting to be interviewed.
We are on a Zoom's green and then I and
another person that helped set everything up. So there's the
eight windows and we're talking and one of the moms,
who's a medium who lives in Sedona, was saying both
of her boys had passed are now in spirit, and

(24:28):
she said, but they're really active communicators, and they appeared
to her very quickly after they transition. Just then above
my head a bunch of multicolored balloons launched and we're.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Shooting up in the air and like fireworks and balloons.
I thought, that's really cool. Who did that?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
One of the moms said that was cool, Mark, how'd
you do that? I said, I didn't do anything. I
thought one of you did it. We went around, no
one had done anything, and then the mom and Sedona said,
that's my boys. They're always doing stuff like that. That's
the example. And all eight of us we didn't have
it recorded. Unfortunately, we weren't recording it, but all eight

(25:14):
of us agreed. Yeah, we all saw the same thing.
I don't know if you remember the rock opera Jesus
Christ Superstar where Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees. Pharisees
were trying to quiet the crowd, and he said, why
waste your breath shouting at the crowd. Nothing will stop

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their excitement. If every voice were stilled, their song would
still continue. The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing.
And that's the way it is. All nature shouts. We
almost have to work to not get a because.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
It's all around us. So I encourage people just drop fear.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I love that drop fear easier said than done. So
we'll talk a little bit more about that when we
get back. Also, what's the update on the Soul Phone?
All this and more when we come back. You're listening
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Speaker 3 (27:10):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine
and we are talking to doctor Mark Pittstick, director and
one of the co founders of the Soul Phone Foundation.
He's also the author of many afterlife books and has
a real passion for sharing the reality of the afterlife.

(27:31):
So back to his words on fear.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
So I encourage people just dropped fear. And my favorite
line on that is from Norman Vincent Peale. He said,
fear knocked them my door, Faith answered no one was there.
And so again fear knocked on my door, Faith answered,
no one was there. So it's just fear. It's fear

(27:55):
of nothingness after death. It's fear we won't see our
loved ones again. It's fear that some big guy in
the sky, god that came from the dark ages, is
going to smite us, or judge us, or puts in health.
It's a fear that we will fail, a fear we're
not good enough. All those are needless fears. None of

(28:16):
those are true. We're just such special feelings. So that's
why I encourage people to get that and then enjoy life.
Helen Keller said, life is either an exciting adventure, it's
nothing at all, and it is an exciting adventure when
we really get it or we get more emotional.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
About the soul Phone. Is that where you want to go?

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, let's go there.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I know you've got big announcements coming out in twenty
twenty four, but what can you tell us now?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah? First of all, the website is soolphone dot com to.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Learn about it.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Doctor Schwartz left Yale, he's a tenured professor in nineteen
eighty eight because he wanted to explore energy healing, and
by the way, he ran a series of experiments a
validay the efficacy of reiki and healing touch. He has
done so many things in his fifty year career, just
astounding things. But then he also wanted to explore the

(29:13):
question of survival of consciousness, which is how scientists academics
state this life after death survival of consciousness question, and
so he reasoned that one of the best ways to
address this might be to then study mediums. He actually
took training to become a fake medium cold readings and

(29:36):
hot readings and so on, because he knew for a
fact that some mediums were frauds and others were mediocre.
In other words, if I did a reading for you
right now, Sandra had said, I'm picking up that your
great grandmother is deceased.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Is that accurate? It's great, No, she's one hundred and
fifty mark.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Anyway, what she's telling me she loves you very much
and she proud of you. Okay, that's not really impressive reading. Okay,
there's no validation aspects, there no evidence.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
But he knew some mediums who were hot.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
They were kind of up with specific details that they
couldn't know otherwise. And this has done under blind conditions,
so there are no ways they could have researched before.
So he set up a series of experiments that they
did at the University of Arizona. This is around the
turn of the century, the late nineteen nineties, and people
like John Edward, George Anderson and others were involved. Double

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blind these poor mediums, what they went through, they had
no idea who are they going to be reading for male, female, whatever.
There was a list of subjects or sitters, and those
weren't decided until the last moment. And Gary was blind
all that, so it's called a double and even triple
blinded experiment. The mediums were in a room by themselves.

(30:57):
They could not see or even hear sitter. Instead, the
sitter would relay yes or no to the experimenter, and
the experimenter would relay the yes or no to the medium.
The sitters were brought in a different room, a different entrance, so.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
There's no way the medium can know anything.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yet despite that, these mediums had an eighty six percent
hit rate successful reading about hood passed and intimate details
about them. Gary also ran a control group, which is
something you always do in true scientific research, of non
mediums who had no experience, no abilities at all. They

(31:41):
went through the very same experiments. They had a twenty
three percent success rate. A boy, what you expect from guessing.
So he repeated this a number of times and then
wrote about his results in his book The Afterlife Experiments,
and so that really got his attention. Hees, but from

(32:02):
the scientific mind, that didn't prove anything. That just increased
the inference that consciousness survived after Bali death, if indeed
mediums could get in touch with that disembodied consciousness. A
number of the mediums then became friends, and over the
years that group grew and so people like Mark Anthony

(32:23):
and Suzanne Eaeseman go through the whole list, and so
they became colleagues and friends, and they started independently. For example,
during one point several of them said, Gary, I keep
hearing fan Aalbert Einstein, and he keeps saying you're supposed
to build a device to allow communication with the next realm.

(32:46):
And then he would have synchronicities that made him trust
that even more so finally he said, okay, okay, I
get it, and he started working on it.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
But it's not easy.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
In fact, on a post sune I did a two
hour presentation for the Ions International Association of Near Death
Studies where I tell about all this and show photos.
So he went through all sorts of experiments that we
don't have time to talk about. But basically, this series
of experiments showed that PMPs post patio persons still have density,

(33:22):
they have physicality, as evidenced by their ability to create
air motion in a sealed container, to slow down the
speed of a beam of photons or a beam of
laser beam, etc. So it showed that not just like
Casper the friendly ghost Gaussy im material energy floating around

(33:44):
they are or can take on if they want, depending
on the setting physicality density. It showed that they can
express verbally, and Michael Jackson was one of the first
people to be chosen for that because what we've seen
is that the personality continues on in the next realm,

(34:04):
and so the most dynamic people while on Earth, Whitney Houston,
Harry Houdini and others are the best communicators from the
other quote the other side, their ability to be seen,
to have a visual image, their ability to shine their
light in a triple dark in enclosure and a thirty

(34:28):
five thousand dollars camera that could detect a single photon
of light beam would pick up the light. So the
control is nobody is in the room, the medium doesn't
ask Game Bye to come in.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Then the medium would say, okay, whoever the.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Test pilot is, please enter this chamber, or at least
direct your energy into the chamber, and immediately a beam
of light would appear. Please move from right to left,
Please move the chamber. And it's just like a trained
monkey doing all this. But the trouble is it was
like one hundred thousand dollars piece of equipment. It's about

(35:06):
the size of a suitcase, and there wasn't a way
to commercialize because that's been to go all along to
have technology that's as affordable and about the size as
a cell phone and maybe even an app. So what
we and I say we now, because I have been
with for seven years and been involved in research as

(35:26):
well as directing the foundation that helps raise funds for
him and shares this great news with people around the world,
we now are working on what's called a soul switch.
And it's interesting we're filming today because this afternoon I'll
meet with doctor Schwartz and a couple of the top engineers.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Electric engineers will replicate what.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
We did two days ago, but we may be on
the verge of having what we call a breakthrough switch,
which is defined as a nine to nine point nine
nine percent accurate yes and no answer and ten seconds
or last near real time from post material persons. Once
we have that, then we'll have a series of those devices.

(36:13):
First of all with the switch, then that's what we'll
demonstrate next year. We'll also have soul switched sessions because
we have people who over the years have donated ten
thousand dollars or more. Volunteer team members of the foundation
and others we want to thank with a session and
that'll be very meaningful, and that's what I'll be doing.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Doctor Schwartz will start.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And his wife Ronda, who's the head of a Need
Share a Medium, will start having sessions with the A team,
which is a group of about thirty top people Edison, Einstein, Testle, etc.
But they say for every one of them, there are
hundreds waiting in the wings to contribute. And these were

(37:00):
all geniuses, pioneers while on Earth. It's just that we
can only deal with so many of them. And then
doctor Schwartz will work on the scientific end of it.
Ronda will work on understanding more about the team and
getting more information from the team. In meantime, the software
and hardware developers will work on the next device, which

(37:23):
is the sole keyboard, and this is envisioned as the
first commercializable, widely usable service or device. It could be
as simple as eight of these sole switches in series,
so that then they can type up so an A
for example, would be press on these three in that order.

(37:46):
Be kind of like Morse code, so you wouldn't need
forty four keys like a keyboard. The sole keyboard then
will enable xting and typing with people who have changed worlds,
and that will allow them the greatest quantity and quality
of information conveyed, especially from these scientists who tell us

(38:08):
they've been continuing to work. For example, on one medium
session with Tesla. I so, oh my god, Nicola, this
is such an honor. I mean, you did so much
on Earth, and he said, if you're impressed by why
Edwiles on Earth, wait till you see what I've been
working on here. And so that's available there. They stand

(38:29):
ready and want to help us on our planet. So
talk about another big breakthrough for helping us reach Heaven
on Earth. So that's the sole keyboard. Then we anticipate
that we'll get enough information come in that we can
move on to the two most useful devices.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
There never seems to be a good time for the
break but we'll be back with doctor Mark Pittstick and
find out about those two useful devices. This is a
fascinating conversation, isn't it. Just think of the team of
scientists on the other side helping us bridge that gap
between our world and theirs. So we'll be right back.

(39:13):
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeart
Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Don't go anywhere, there's more Shades of the Afterlife coming
right up.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
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need to be. This is the iHeart Radio and Coast
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Tom of Coast to Coast AM and more. Sandress starts
right now.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and this is an extraordinary conversation with doctor Mark Pittstick,
director and one of the co founders of the Soul
Phone Foundation. Reminder, he's the author of many books on
the afterlife, including soul Proof, The Eleven Questions, Everything You

(40:26):
Wanted to Know about Life, Death and the Afterlife, and more.
You can visit his websites soulproof dot com and solphone
dot com. Before the break, he was talking about the
soul phone, the soul switch, then the sole keyboard, and

(40:48):
now the next phase.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Then we anticipate that we'll get enough information come in
that we can move on to the two most useful devices,
soul Boy Talking and then soul video teleconferencing like we're
doing now. Gary's goal is to have a three D
holographic type visit with your loved ones. And with these

(41:13):
we've alreadys started the infrastructure for a university, Greater Reality University,
and he has I think forty five just pee minds
who have agreed to speak on free energy, cleaning up
our planet, feeding the poor, stopping true leadership. What did

(41:35):
Jesus really teach all of those areas so talk about exciting?
I asked the question, actually, and I share some of
these conversations in our book Greater Reality Living. There are
about eight members of the A team there, and I said,
would you all be willing when we had the technology
in place to give webinars for people around the world

(41:57):
and share this information? And the medium started laughing and
she said they're pushing each other out of the way
to get first in line. That's how much they care
and love and are excited about this. And another one
of them said, you'll break the internet with Yeah, with

(42:19):
the turnout, that's what's going on there. But it's one
step of the time. And again, people can learn more
about this atsolphone dot com. But doctor Schwartz has gone
from this is a possibility to this is going to happen.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
It's just a matter of time.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
And thanks to our donors, thanks to our research team
putting it together, so lots of hope on top of
everything else we've talked about, huge amount of hope.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
A game changer.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
So if people are on the fence, say oh no,
if all this's are really real or not, read these articles,
learn more about this and maybe that'll help you let
go of the fear, trust open your heart. You know
what I've found over the years, one of the beauties
of getting older is I have so much experience, and

(43:15):
so many people of the years, elders have told me
they knew all this when they were a kid. They
knew there was no fire, eternal hell, a god of
love wouldn't do that. They knew that life continued, and
they knew there were special beings. But then we get
crunched in and we have abuse and wounds and disappointments,

(43:36):
and then we become these constricted, fearful people versus our open,
loving people.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Baby buddhists.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
So I just say, get back in touch with what
you knew as a kid, with what your heart has
been telling you.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Trust that it's true.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
It's such good news and again we need everybody contributing
to this effort.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
And what a celebration that's going to be.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Mark, thank you so much. You mentioned the two hour
interview you did with Ions. Is that going to be
on soul phone dot com when that's done or soul Proof.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
It's going to be on both.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
In fact, first thing I woke up with this morning
was get that recording so people can't access it.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
It's just an incredible story. Just one more thing.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Doctor Schwartz had two near death experiences when he's a child,
almost died. I mean it came from a genius family.
His dad was a PhD chemist from Columbia University, his
mom got at Juilliard Music Academy, or so. He just
came from these overachiever, amazing parents. But then with these

(44:45):
two near death experiences, I think his brain got affected
a little bit. It's interesting because through my life I
read so many biographies, and I was especially fascinated with
what we're called eccentric geniuses or mad scientists. If you
read the accounts, they are quite different. It's like their

(45:05):
brain works differently. The same way with Gary somebody heard
the saying a three ring circus. They're like, oh, my
mind's a three ring circus.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
There's all this.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Going people have told Gary were usually like one hundred
ring circus. He has all this going on at once.
For example, when he was five years old, his older
brother was upstairs, his parents were gone, and the TV
was on, and this is the old rabbit ears, right,
And so he just went up and touched the rabbit
ears and he noticed that the reception got better, the

(45:40):
picture got clear. They took his hand off and went
back to normal, and he realized he was becoming part
of the antenna. So then keep in mind he's five
years old. So then he gets out screwdriver and he
unhooks the antenna.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Then he puts his fingers where the antenna used to connect,
and you got to pick sure again. So he goes
to this series of experiments. His parents come home. If
I had done that, my parents would have whipped the
heck out of me. His parents encouraged me. They said,
good job, Gary, let's do that with us. Does that
work with us? And so he extended the experiment. So

(46:17):
that's the way he's been since a child, and now
at age seventy nine. He has these gifts for humanity,
so stay tuned. You can learn more about this newsletters
at soulproof dot com andsolphone dot com free newsletters as
well as all the free articles I mentioned. Also, radio

(46:38):
shows interviews I did, Wayne Dyer, Bernie Siegel, Michael Newton,
Brian Wise, Anita Moore, Johnny Calyn May you name them
that they're free to listen where we discuss all these
important topics.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Mark, thank you. I can't thank you enough from all
of us. This has just been a million dollar episode.
Any closing words for today.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
I would say take advantage of this sacred time is
considered to extend from the beginning of December, which is
when the Buddha vowed to become enlightened and sat at
the base of the Bodhi tree until he did Hanikah Christmas.
The death date of the founder of zora Astrodism, which

(47:24):
is the oldest monotheistic religion, three thousand years, and those
teachings soldered into all the other religions. For example, the
birthdate of this founder was December twenty sixth Oh, what
a coincidence, right next to when Jesus was born. Yeah,
just avail yourself at this time, and the time extends

(47:46):
into the new year as well. So just say a prayer,
set an intention. Hey God, I'm ready for a new
phase of my life.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
If all this is true, then I want to know
more deeply who I am. I want to know what
my soul's purposes are.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
By the way, there's a technique article number twenty one,
call it identify.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
And fulfill your soul's purposes. So do that.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Get in touch with why you're here, because so many
people have this creative discontent. They're bored, they're unhappy because
they don't know who they are and they don't know
why they're here. And I found if people will identify
that and share it, even a little, it can make
a profound difference.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
So I invite people to do that. Join us.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
There's an article on how to find more evolved souls
who are around you? Yeah, article number sixty six, Relationships
for more evolved persons. Because I hear from people they say,
I believe what you say, but I'm the only one
in my circle. My family, my friends would think I'm crazy,
and I say, you need to find your tribe. You

(48:55):
need to find like minded people, open hardered, open minded.
So article number six, the six list ways that I've
found where we kook's congregate and then you're not alone
and you can talk about these things. Yeah, what a
great way to start a new year and celebrate the holidays.
I hope you do that, and I look forward to

(49:17):
hearing about your guests and receiving them.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
That's doctor Mark Pittstick. This man has given his time
and energy so freely to share the greater reality that
we don't die, that we live on there's teams of
scientists on the other side trying to bridge the gap.
Go to soulproof dot com and right at the top

(49:40):
you can click on articles. He's got one hundred and
twenty different ones. And while you're there, click on the
shop page and he has an excellent download called Facilitated
After Death Contact, which puts you in that guided imagery
state where you can reconnect with your loved ones who

(50:02):
have passed. Also go to Helpingparents Heal dot org. Even
if you're not a parent. Click on their YouTube videos.
You will see affiliate leader caring listener interviews. Those are
the interviews that doctor Mark did with these parents. If
you scroll down that page, there is the YouTube video

(50:28):
he did with the parents called Facilitated After Death Communication,
So the link is there for you to watch that
good advice that he says. Question everything. I say. It's
great to be a skeptic, but be an open minded skeptic.
Be open that there are answers, that there are people

(50:50):
working on proof of the afterlife, connecting the two worlds.
I use a device called the Oculus, a three D
head set that I can exercise with, and when I
put it on my head, everything I see is three dimensional,
so I can box and do other exercises with three

(51:11):
D people. The day is coming that we have technology
to use to communicate with our loved ones, and I
can just imagine communicating with them in a virtual world.
But for right now, keep talking to them because they
are right there by your side. I want to remind

(51:32):
you that my home base is we Don't Die dot com.
And if you haven't yet entered your name and your
email address at the bottom of the screen, you'll get
a free PDF copy of my book. Also, every Sunday,
two pm New York time on Zoom, we do a
free empowering service with a medium demonstration included. We always

(51:56):
have medium classes coming up to work that month and
realize you are a divine, eternal soul having a human experience.
I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM

(52:16):
Paranormal Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
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