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Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll decid us the reasons we now
know that our loved ones have survived physical death and
so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on
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our time together today, I want to talk about hypnosis
and the afterlife, as in, can we be hypnotized and
tap into the past, possibly even a past life? If
we are flatlining on an operating table and don't remember anything,
can we be hypnotized and remember a near death experience. Also,
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can we be hypnotized and talk to our deceased loved ones.
The answer to these questions is yes, but the answer
may not be as easy as it may sound. First,
let's talk about hypnosis, what it is and what it isn't,
and then look at some very cool ways people are
connecting with the afterlife. When I was twelve or thirteen
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years old, I would have slumber parties with my friends
Andrea and Tina. Tina's dad was a psychiatrist who used
hip gnosis in his practice and for fun. Andrea wanted
to be hypnotized, so I played hypnotist as Tina took notes.
I knelt behind Andrea's head as she laid on the floor.
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I gently rubbed the temples of her forehead and gave
her a number and asked her to count backwards. Every
so often, I gave her another number and she had
to count backward from that. The idea was to confuse
the mind to induce hypnosis. When I sensed that Andrea
was in the zone, I asked her what she saw,
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who she was, and what she was wearing. This is
the first time I probably heard about past lives, and
Andrea always described that she was someone who lived a long,
long time ago. For fun, I had her count forwards
sometimes instead of back, and she would describe someone in
the future, like living in outer space with purple eyes.
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One occasion, when I regressed her, she scared the heck
out of us. She said she had been burned at
the stake for being a witch in Salem. Of course,
at the time I forgot, we were studying the Salem
witch Trials in our history class. That experience scared all
of us not to play around with hypnosis anymore during
our slumber parties. Then in college, I used to love
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when a hypnotist did a stage show. It appeared that
the hypnotist made the students do some very funny things.
We laughed so hard when a person was told they
were from a different planet and spoke a made up language,
or when the group on stage was hypnotized and they
were told the whole audience was naked. One of my
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favorites was when the hypnotist gave a person water to drink,
told them it was alcohol, and the person began to
act more and more drunk. It seemed like the hypnotist
was somehow in control of their subjects. Back in the nineties,
I actually learned how to hypnotize people. At the time,
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I was trying to lose weight, and I knew hypnosis
helped for weight loss, to stop smoking and get rid
of phobias. So I flew to California and took an
intensive course in hypnosis. That's when I learned what hypnosis
is and what it isn't. All hypnosis is really self hypnosis.
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A hypnotist cannot make a person do anything they normally
wouldn't do. Our conscious mind is always listening. So those
people on stage were all fun, loving people who happily
went along with the suggestions the hypnotists gave them, and
laughs were shared by all. There is a bit of
what feels like magic in hypnosis, because I believe in hypnosis.
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During the intensive class, the teacher walked up to me
and said, quite abruptly, sleep, and my head went right
down on my chest. Then he said, in a few minutes,
when I say the word green, you'll feel the urge
to join me on stage. After he asked me to
open my eyes, he carried on and gave a suggestion
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to someone else in the room. Now this is where
it becomes really weird, because I honestly never heard him
say the word green, And suddenly I realized I was
standing on the stage thinking how did I get here?
But another time, while my eyes were closed, he asked
me to think of my favorite song, which at the
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time was one of Phil Collins's greatest hits. He said,
I'd have this uncontrollable urge to rush to the stage
and sing it. I opened my eyes and I said,
no freaking way. You see, I only sing when no
one else can hear me, unless it's happy birthday. I've
got that mastard. So I am a certified hypnotherapist, and
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fresh from school, I began to take on clients. I
explained to people that our conscious mind has to work
with our subconscious to change habits. That hypnosis can help
remove the urge to smoke cigarettes, for instance, but they
had to do their part and change their habits, like
substituting a glass of water when they wanted to smoke.
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We all naturally fall into the same state of mind
called hypnosis when we wake up in the morning and
when we fall asleep at night. It is that stage
on the edge of sleep. Hypnosis is also called visual imagery.
Athletes can visualize a competition before it happens and be
more successful. I've hypnotized students who wanted to do better
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on tests, people with phobias, habits they wanted changed, and
had lots of success. But long before I was interested
in the afterlife, one lady told me she wanted to
be hypnotized to quit smoking. During the session, I noticed
tears were coming from her eyes and she was smiling.
When it was over, she paid me and gave me
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a big tip and said it was the best experience
she's had in a long time. Why because when I
had her imagine being by a cooling stream and watching
the urge for cigarettes be carried away, she said her
deceased son met her by that stream. She got to
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hug him and kiss him, spoke with him, and one
hundred percent believes he joined her in that experience. I
spoke with doctor Craig Hogan a couple times on the show,
and he teaches a self guided afterlife technique that he
says is eighty six percent effective reuniting people with their
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loved ones. Rochelle Wright teaches a method in her book
Guided after Life Connections, and doctor Alan Botkin and his
therapists do what's called induced after death communication, which is
also the name of his book. While the word hypnosis
may not be used in these examples, I think a
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better word for what people are experiencing is an altered state.
You've had altered states many times, and every day you
experience them daydreaming or have you ever been out for
a drive and you thought, how did I get here
so fast? Sometimes we are so engrossed by a good
book or a movie that we pay no attention to
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anything else. That's an altered state. If you follow a
meditation and you actually feel like you're standing by a
stream or lying on a beach, feeling the sand beneath
you and maybe a gentle breeze, that's an altered state.
There is a lot of value in having someone lead
you into an altered state, because left to our own devices,
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it's easy to fall asleep. We can also make recordings
and lead ourselves into that state of self. Hypnosis practitioners
often ask that we're seated straight up in a chair
because that keeps us from falling asleep. Back in twenty nineteen,
I was a speaker at the Ions conference that's the
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International Association for Near Death Studies and a cardiologist, a psychiatrist,
and a master hypnotherapist did a presentation called Hypnotic Recall
of Near Death Experiences and shared their research after regressing
twenty cardiac arrest patients who didn't remember anything until they
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were hypnotized and they remembered having a near death experience.
These doctors believe that hypnotic recall brings very positive and
transformative emotions to people because so many people who suffer
a cardiac arrest have long term problems such as anxiety,
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PTSD and depression, so these experiences can be very healing.
I'd like to give you some links that you can
refer back to. First, that self guided afterlife connection can
be found at Afterlifeinstitute dot org, forward slash, self dash Guided.
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Scott Milligan and I do a monthly trance in the
Altered States class to help us blend with that love
from the unseen world, and it also helps with spiritual
development and gives us a lot of peace and healing
in our lives. Of course, that's that we don't die
at dot com. In our next segment, you'll hear words
from doctor Alan Botkin and you can find out more
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about him and his global therapists that facilitate after death
communications at induced ADC dot com. In our third segment, together,
you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, author of many books
including Many Lives, Many Masters and Only Love Is Real,
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and find his hypnotic regression audios on his website Ranweiss
dot com. Also, back in episode one hundred and fifty
of this show, I included a visual journey to connect
you with your loved ones, So be sure and go
back and check that out. Just recently, back on episode
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one eighty four, we talked to dream expert doctor Janet
Pete Dolato. She gave us a tool we can use
to connect with our deceased loved ones through what she
calls is the dream gate. It's when we're still sleepy,
just waking up in the morning, we create a gate
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and imagine our loved ones standing behind it because we're
still in that altered state. It allows an opportunity to
have a day dream, one in which our loved ones
communicate with us. The question is always is it really
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them or is it our imagination? Doctor Janet says we
should never say just our imagination because Imagination is the
tool used for communication. Even the best mediums, say the
spirit world, draw from their imagination and create images so
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that they can give them in a reading. We're going
to go into our first break now, and when we
come back, you're going to hear from doctor Alan Botkin.
He's the one from INDUCEDADC dot com, the name of
his book, Induced After Death Communication. Then you'll meet the
famous doctor Brian Weiss, followed by a surprise from me
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to you. You got to love Sandra Surprises. Okay, let's
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain. Next,
I'd like you to hear from doctor Alan Bodkin, who
has written a book called Induced After Death Communication, A
Miraculous Therapy for Grief and Loss, and how he accidentally
learned about after death communication.
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I had been working on an impatient post traumatic stress
disorder unit at a local VA hospital for a number
of years, treating combat veterans with traumatic memories and pretty
severe PTSD, and for a while, the only available treatments
were what were called exposure therapies, where you'd have the
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patient talk about the traumatic event repeatedly in a safe
and supportive and non mental environment, and the idea was
that over time the emotional intensity associated with those memories
would decrease. At least that's theoretically what was supposed to happen.
The work was extremely difficult, mostly for our patients. When
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they did work on a traumatic memory during the day,
they were pretty much awake all night, and if they
did fall asleep, they generally had nightmares of the trauma
they worked on during the day. This was an inpatient unit,
so we had PM and night shift who always reported
back to us and then a brand new therapy came
out in the early nineties and we were one of
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the first to use it, and it was called Eye
movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, or EMDR, and the idea with
that was is you have the patient to tend to
a certain aspect of their traumatic memory while at the
same time you'd get his or her eyes moving back
and forth left to right in a particular rhythmic fashion.
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Now, when we.
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First heard about it, that sounded a little silly to us,
but we were at least open minded enough to give
it a try, and we found that oftentimes in a
single session we were able to process a traumatic memory
to the point where patients would say things like, you know, Doc,
this is the first time when I remember what happened,
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I feel like it's finally over and it feels far
away to me, which was the opposite of a traumatic memory,
which is you don't only remember it, you also relived
the moment when you do remember it. But I movement
did a beautiful job of processing a traumatic memory. Well,
I had been working with EMDR for a little while
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and there were parts about the standard protocol that didn't
make sense to me. So I did a lot of
experimentation with it, and most of my ideas didn't seem
to help, but I did hit upon a number of
changes that seemed to make EMBR work even better and
more rapidly. So one day I was after I had
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made that final change, I was working with a patient.
When we were done, at the end of the session,
opened his eyes and said that the deceased person he
was grieving had come to him in this beautiful vision
and told him that she was okay, and so on
and so forth, and my patient was absolutely convinced that
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this person's spirit had come to him. Well, at the time,
I didn't know what these experiences were even called. I
didn't know there was a name for him, which is
after death communication or ADC. And these experiences occur spontaneously
in the general population, so they're not new, and they've
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been known to assist in the grieving process. So anyway,
when my patient had the experience, I thought maybe he
had hallucinated, and I was concerned about him, that his
psychological condition had deteriorated which caused him to hallucinate. But
he left the office feeling joyous and happy, and he
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slept well that night and his joy lasted into the
next day, into the next week, and so on and
so forth. The case I just briefly referred to was
the first time that accidentally happened in therapy. And I
was working with a veteran I call Sam, and he
had become very close to an orphan Vietnamese girl named
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Lee in Vietnam. She was about ten years old, and
he had plans to adopt her and bring her back
home with him.
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To the States.
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He didn't know at the time the government wouldn't have
allowed that, but he didn't know that at the time. Anyway,
one day she was shot and killed right in front
of him, and that was pretty much the cause of
his psychological undoing in Vietnam. And he after that volunteered
for dangerous missions and so on, and he covered his
sadness with his rage. Well, when I was working with
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him with the eye movements, with the early version of
IADC therapy, we processed all those really painful emotions, and
then I gave him an extra set of eye movements,
and he closed his eyes, and when he opened to me,
he told me Lee had come to him as a
fully grown woman dressed in a beautiful white gown with beautiful,
long black hair and surrounded by the most beautiful white
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light he had ever seen, and privately she thanked Sam
for taking such good care of her back then, and
then Sam responded, I love you Lee, and Lee responded,
I love you too, Sam, and reached out and gave
Sam a hug, and he was absolutely convinced he could
feel her arms around him. Maybe a few days after that,
another one of my patients had this experience which just
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seemed to come out of the blue, and his response
was equally positive. And after a while I thought, she
wouldn't it be nice if more of my patients could
experience this? So I went back and looked in my
notes and kind of figure out what I had done
that caused the experience to happen.
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And when I added those.
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Extra elements, nearly all of my patients were reporting these
ADC experiences. As a psychologist, my primary concern is healing people,
and having worked with combat PTSD guys and now I
work with many parents who lose children and so on,
I see the worst of the worst, and my number
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one goal is to bring relief and to bring a
sense of peace to these people, which IADC does very well,
so that is my main mission, and as a matter
of fact, the IADC therapy works equally well regardless of
my patient's beliefs. It works just as well with atheists
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as it does with true believers. The procedure itself seems
to open people up, regardless of beliefs, to this very
natural experience. It really does seem to be a permanent cure.
Probably one of the best physiological theories has to do
with dream sleep. When we're asleep and dreaming, our brains
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are actually processing and integrating information more rapidly and efficiently
than when we're awake. And it's been known for some
time that this increased processing during dreaming causes our eyes
to dart back and forth, which is why dream sleep
is called rapidi movement or rem sleep.
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The discovery of EMDR.
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Seems to suggest that you can take a fully awake
person a mean get her to move ourize in a
similar fashion. It actually puts the brain into that higher
processing mode, and we can use it when people are
wide awake. So it's a very natural healing mechanism that
we all have. It's just not turned on all the time.
When I first came out with this in a public
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kind of way. I expected to get criticism from scientific colleagues,
but in fact, most of the feedback I've gotten from
those kind of people have been very positive. People in
very conservative university environments have written me letters and say
I admire your courage, keep doing what you're doing, and
so on and so forth. The only people that really
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have harsh words for this are the people I think
of as die hard skeptics, where they sort of make
a living out of being a skeptic. And those are
people generally who have their minds made up about what's
possible and what can't be possible. But I think the
true scientific attitude is you follow the evidence induced ADCs
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come across as though they've been through a life review.
Even to these people who are terrible people in life,
are always experienced in ADCs as being for the first
time very aware of all the pain they caused in
other people. They're very sincere about it. They take responsibility
for what they do. And I have even worked with
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Vietnam vets who purposefully killed civilians.
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At the time, they were.
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Full of anger and rage, but they had enough courage
to face their pain and their sadness. Which came out
later in life, so they could actually grieve the people
they killed. In all of those cases, forgiveness from that
deceased person was there.
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But it's not an easy out.
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It's not an easy way to get out of the
bad things you did, because you have to grieve for
your victims the same way you'd agree for your own mother.
You have to connect on that same deep level of humanity.
IADC is successful in terms of inducing an ADC experience
about seventy five percent of the time, and so in
about twenty five percent of cases people don't have the experience.
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It works equally well with pets and some animals. I'll
give you one of my favorite examples. This guy had
lost an uncle who was like a father figure to him.
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In his ADC experience, he had a vision of his.
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Uncle standing there and holding the family dog from back then,
who my patient also grew up with that dog as well.
But anyway, my patient had a real nice ADC conversation
with his uncle and felt really good about that. And
he came up to me the next morning and he said,
all through the night when he was trying to go
to sleep, he felt like something was jumping on him,
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and so we went back to it and did the
procedure again the next morning, and it was indeed the dog.
And so in his ADC with the dog, he played
with the dog and you know, hugged the dog and
the dog locked him and they had a great time together.
To be eligible for MDR training, one needs to be
recognized by one state as a licensed mental health practitioner,
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which covers a lot of different professions. You know, psychiatrist, psychologists,
social workers, master's levels, psychiatric nurses, LPC's, MSW's. All of
those people are licensed professionals and qualify for EMDR and IADC.
As simple as it sounds, you know, you're sitting there
having somebody move their eyes back and forth and so on,
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the work is extremely intense. The analogy is kind of
like doing surgery. I mean, you're really going into a
person and going to their deepest pain, and sometimes you
can get some spinoffs from that, and if you don't
have a background in mental health, you're not going to
be able to recognize what those spinoffs are and be
able to deal with them effectively. Now, IADC at the
same time, is extremely safe. Out of thousands of cases
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there have been no reported adverse effects of any kind.
So if it's done properly and with somebody adequately trained,
there's no problem. But just to go home and kind
of do this on your own, it can be dangerous.
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Thank you, doctor Bodkin. And now there are therapists who
do induce to ADC all over the world. You can
hear more about induced ADCs back on episode sixty six.
We're going to continue with hypnosis and the Afterlife and
you're going to hear from the world renowned doctor Brian
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Speaker 2 (28:04):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain.
Next you'll hear from doctor Brian Weiss, who I believe
is the most well known past life hypnosis regressionist in
the world.
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I trained in traditional psychiatry and not a believer in
what I'm talking about today, not in the beginning of
my career. So I was a chemistry major at Columbia University,
a very left brain, and then medical school at Yale
and my internship in medicine and psychiatry at New York
University's Bellevue Hospital, and then I escaped back to Yale
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to do my psychiatry residency and was a professor at
several medical schools, writing book chapters and scientific articles and
papers more than forty and lots of different journals. Basic
brain research, psychopharmacology research, and things like that, serotonin metabolism.
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That's me very left brain, very scientific. And I was
chairman of the psychiatry department at Mount Sinai Medical Center
in Miami Beach and a clinical professor of psychiatry at
the University of Miami. That's where I live and running
the department, not looking to change anything. My professional life
was going very very well. And that's when Catherine, the
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women that's described in my second book, but the first
book of this spiritual series has called many Lives, Many Masters.
That's the book I would start with if you want
to read one of mine. She was a young woman
from New England, a Catholic women suffering from panic attacks
and fears and phobias, insomnia, and depression. She was referred
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in by the chairman of the pediatrics department, a friend
of hers. She was a laboratory technician in this hospital
where I was chairman of the psychiatry department. I would
use medications, antidepressants, anti anxiety medicines, but she refused to
take any because she had a lifelong fear of gagging
or choking. Couldn't swallow pills, so I used traditional psychotherapy.
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We didn't get that far in a year and a
half of therapy, and I wanted to use hypnosis, which
was a technique I had learned at Bellevue when I
was an intern there, to bring her back into her
childhood because hypnosis, and by the way, that's just focusing
the concentration. You don't have to be concerned about what
it is. Focusing the concentration while your body is very relaxed,
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So you're all hypnotized every day when you're concentrating, and
you don't hear noises or outside stimuli, reading a good book,
watching a movie, concentrating on television, paying such attention that
you don't hear kitchen noises or traffic noises. That is hypnosis.
It's just concentration, so you can't get stuck, you don't
give up control. All of those are myths. So you
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can just call it relaxed focus, concentration or deep relaxation,
and you can open your eyes at any time and
end it at any time. You're always in control. So
she resisted for a while, but then as certain events happened.
In particular, she visited the King tut exhibit that was
touring the US at the time. She was visiting Chicago,
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and she began to correct the museum guide about everyday
Egyptian artifacts, and she was correct, but she had never
studied this piece of history. She was not a historian
by any means, as I mentioned, a laboratory technician. And
this sort of convinced her that what I was saying
about forgotten memories from childhood traumas might be causing her
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symptoms in the present time. So we did the hypnosis.
She went into a deep state. She went back to childhood,
did remember some traumas, but her symptoms persisted. The next week,
back in the deep state, I instructed her to go
back to where her symptoms first began, and she went
back nearly four thousand years, because that's where her symptoms
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really first began. Now I didn't believe in this, and
she didn't either, but she was having the experiences, so
she believed before I did. She was drowning in that
lifetime in a flood or tidal wave, and that was
the cause of her gagging and choking in the current life.
So after that memory, the symptom resolved, and every week
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as we did this work, all of her symptoms disappeared
in her case without using any medicines. So that was
a new frontier for me. But I was very obsessive
and left brain, and it took more to convince me.
I knew it wasn't fantasy, it wasn't imagination. Her symptoms
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were disappearing, and imagination doesn't cure lifelong symptoms, severe symptoms.
But I was having a hard time with the concept
of past lives. And then about the fifth session, she
died in one of these ancient lifetimes floated above her body,
replicating the near death experience work of Elizabeth Koubler Ross
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and Raymond Moody and many others. But she had never
heard about these people. So after the fifth or sixth session,
she died, floated above her body, finding the light like
very much. The after death experience is similar to the
near death experience, except you don't come back into the
old body. You come back into a new body. But
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the concept of floating above the light, the life for review,
all of these things are very, very similar. Catherine came
into my office in nineteen eighty, so I've been studying
these concepts past lives for the last many years with
thousands and thousands of patients, and it's a great deal
of confirming evidence, validating evidence. We won't go into that today,
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but it's in my books, it's in other books. Researchers
are documenting this at any rate. This was what changed
my belief system completely, in floating above, finding this light,
having herself like rejuvenated by this light, the tiredness of
the past life disappearing, the fatigue disappearing, revitalizing, refreshing. And
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then she started telling me about my father and my son,
both of whom who had died, and she didn't know
anything about my personal life. One theory of psychotherapy is
you don't want your patient knowing about your own personal
life because when they start developing thoughts ideas emotions, feelings
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about the therapist. That's called the transference reaction. And then
it's a psychoanalytic principle to interpret that and your feelings
back about the patient. This is called countertransference. And your
analysis of these shifts, these emotions, these projections, This is
part of the therapy. And I don't even have diplomas
or anything in my office because the less the person knows,
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the better. And that was a theory of psychoanalysis, and
that's how I was trained in the sixties and seventies
when I had my psychiatric training. So she didn't know
about me. She didn't know about my father, about my son,
and she starts telling me very specific and detailed information
about them. She said, my father is there, and she's
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floating in this in between lifetime state. My father is there.
She tells me his name is Avraum, that's how she
pronounced it. She's a Catholic woman from New England. She
said he died from his heart and your daughter is
named after him. And then she went in to tell
me why he died and about our relationship. That was
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my father, who died the year before Catherine started in
nineteen seventy nine. So that was his Hebrew name, but
nobody ever called him that. He was called Reds because
of his hair color. And she knew these details. Nobody
ever knew these details. It was not written down anywhere,
It didn't have an obituary. Then she said, and your
son is here. He's very tiny and shining brightly. And
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his heart is important. Also, she mentioned that my father
died from his heart. He had a heart attack the
year before. His heart is important also because it's turned
around backwards. And she started describing that why he died,
how that was to change my life and so on,
and that was all true. My son, first son had
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died in nineteen seventy one, so ten years basically before
Catherine's coming in. Again, this happened without an obituary in
New York City a decade earlier, and he died of
a very rare congenital heart defect called total anomalous pulmonary
venus drainage. Basically, what that is the blood vessels from
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the heart to the lungs are backwards, and the blood's
going the wrong direction, and the pulmonary hypertension is and
the heart expands and fails, and there was no real
therapy for that at the time. Now there are surgeries
and things to do, but not forty some years ago,
and she knew all about that, and she was telling
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me these things, and I knew she couldn't know those things.
She couldn't know these details. And so I remember thinking
at that time, if she's right about these things, if
she's right about my father and my son, could she
also be write about past lives and reincarnation and the
survival of the soul after the death of the physical body,
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and coming back and karma and everything else she was
telling me about. And I asked her, how do you
know this information about my father and my son? And
she was still in the deep state, floating in between lifetimes,
and she answered, I'm hearing this. There are Master spirits
around me. They're giving me this information. They're with your
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father and your son. That's where the title of my
first book, Many Lives, Many Masters comes from those masters
that were around her, the master's spirits. After she awakened,
and she didn't remember anything from this in between lifetime stage.
She would remember the past lives, but not the messages.
I asked her, what does masters mean to you? And
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she said, isn't that a golf tournament. That was her answer,
So I knew she was not consciously aware at that time,
is somehow it was coming through her. And then as
we got more detailed messages, it was often referring to
her in the third person, so that was something a
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different level. But I needed that to sort of convince
me that what was happening was more. And so week
by week we went through this therapy, all of her
symptoms disappeared. Now I couldn't tell anyone about this for
two reasons. One, I was chairman of the psychia department.
It was very weird, and it was a conservative hospital
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to confidentiality. But she could tell people, and she told
her friends and they started coming in for therapy and others,
and I started researching it, getting more data. Other people
started getting better, getting rid of symptoms. And I found
people coming in even if they didn't believe in past lives,
because it was a way to get rid of symptoms
and illnesses and diseases, and a fast way in many cases,
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particularly for phobias and psychosomatic disorders, pain these kinds of
symptoms and illnesses, a very fast, non invasive way, sometimes
one session, sometimes of course more, but it was amazing,
and so that was thousands of patients ago. And I've
been researching it and writing books and giving talks and
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teaching training other therapists to do this work all over
the world.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and in our last segment together, I'm going to give
you a little taste of a past life regression. Normally,
if we were one on one together, we'd be together
for an hour or two, or in the case of
Rochelle Wright or doctor Alan Bodkin, it could be five
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hours and several sessions. This is just a little so
if you're not seated already, I want you to take
a seat, sit back, relax, and close your eyes. In
a few moments, you will be more relaxed than you
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knew you would be listening to this episode. I'd like
you to start by taking a few deep cleansing breaths,
breathing in through the nose and holding it and releasing
it out through your mouth. And imagine that these cleansing
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breaths actually know exactly where to go in the body
to relax any area of tension or stress. Take another
deep breath, and that magical breath soothes those muscles and
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nerves that need relaxing. Take another deep breath and just
let go of all of attention and all of the
cares of the day. I'd like you to remember this
morning when you woke up, Remember the bed you slept
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in and how it felt. I want you to think
back to yesterday. Try to pick a memory from yesterday
of something you did, were someone you were with. And
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now I'd like you to go further back to a
special event that made you very happy in your life,
maybe a special time that you were proud of yourself
or proud of one of your loved ones. Feel how
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it feels to be back in that event. I'd like
you to think back now to a memory from when
you were a child, perhaps the school you went to,
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or the friends you played with, or remembering a time
if you had brothers or sisters. Feel what it was
like to be the young you. Life has just begun
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for you and everything is possible. I'd like you to
imagine now and create in your mind's eye being a
baby in your parents' arms, beautiful new baby. And as
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we move the clock back in time, I'd like you
to imagine the baby in the womb, and actually before
entering the womb, in a space called the before life.
There you realize you're not a baby. You're a wise
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soul who knows that life is an education for you
and the experiences on planet Earth are the best ways
for your soul to grow. The before life is a
beautiful place. It may feel like home. I want you
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to imagine that you are walking down a beautiful hallway
in the before life and it is just glistening with
energy and love, just as you would imagine any heavenly
place would be. At the end of the hall, there
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is a door that says theater, and as you enter it,
it looks like the most beautiful movie theater you have
ever been in. You are alone in this theater and
you choose a comfortable seat on the arm of the seat.
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There are buttons to recline your seat and you can
lift your legs so that you are so comfortable. You
also see a remote control with eight buttons on it.
This is an opportunity to view a past life experience
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something that will help you with your current life. It
does not matter if you believe in past lives. You
know the wisdom of your soul, and that this theater
empowers the soul for your current time on earth. Hold
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that remote and press a button. As you set the
remote by your side, the theater lights darken and the
curtain is raised. By watching the movie on the screen,
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your emotions are not personally attached. You can gain wisdom
and understanding from the person you are watching. You can
be inspired, feel empathy or compassion, just as you would
in any show you watch. The blank screen turns to
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an image of the ground, and notice the ground. Is
it outside, grass or dirt, or maybe inside a building
or a home. The screen seems covered by a cloudy
or smoky substance. You start to see the feet of
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the person and what they may or may not be
wearing on them. As the air begins to clear, you
see this person. Are they a man, a woman, boy
or girl, young or old. See some of the images
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from their life, perhaps what they do for work, where,
if they're young, do they live with their parents? Take
a few moments now and see any struggles or challenges
they've had in their life and how they overcame them.
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Feel their sense of accomplishment from this life. Imagine that
the film is coming to an end, but the person
has a special message just for you. What is the
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message they give you that you can use here in
your current life. Thank the person for sharing and let
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them know all of their experiences you will use for
good in your lifetime. As the curtains begin to clothes
and the lights begin to come up, you realize that
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you are you, the same you who was just listening
to Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. But before
you leave this theater, you realize you are not alone.
As the lights continue to become brighter, you notice that
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around you are all of your loved ones who have passed,
and they're all joining you in this theater with smiles
and joy and hugs and excitement. Even your pets are there.
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There are people you don't recognize and find out that
they are all your ancestors and they too are there
to support you. They remind you that they are always
cheering you on from the invisible space around you, and
they support you in life, and that you can return
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to this theater anytime you wish. My friend, our time
is over on our episode today. Feel free to stay
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in this dreamy state with your loved ones or open
your eyes knowing that you are a powerful, divine soul
and your life matters. Please remember to visit me at
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Weedo'tdie dot com. And if you enjoy Shades of the Afterlife,
tell a friend or leave a review on your favorite
podcast app. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
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Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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