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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so

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will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. This past week,
I received an email from a listener who's being told
she's doing something against the Bible by researching the afterlife.
I recommended people like Pastor John Burke, who you've met
on this show, who has studied more than a thousand

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near death experiences and how they are in the Bible.
Also biblical scholar, attorney, afterlife explorer, and podcast host and
author ROBERTA. Grimes. She's written many books, but there's one
that really impacted me, and that's her book Liberating Jesus.
Over five years ago I hosted a live event and

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psychic medium Mark Anthony, also known as the Psychic Lawyer,
was one of the speakers. He gave a most compelling
present about the history of Christianity, the Bible, talking about
reincarnation in the Bible and so much more, and I
thought I really would love people to hear the presentation. Unfortunately,

(02:16):
the sound quality of the recording was awful. However, thanks
to a little new technology, I've been able to clean
up that audio file. This episode is not just about religion, however,
Mark talks near death experiences, quantum physics, a little bit
of Star Wars, and more. It's a fascinating presentation. Mark

(02:40):
Anthony is an Oxford educated attorney. His books are never
letting go evidence of eternity and the afterlife. Frequency the
scientific proof of spiritual contact and how that awareness will
change your life. His website Evidence of Eternity dot com.

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Here's Mark.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I was raised Catholic.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
In our belief system in Christianity, there's either heaven or
hell when you die. Let's look at the roots of
our own culture in ancient Hasidic Judaism, in the Kabbala,
the mystical aspects of Judaism, in the Book of Job
Naked I left my mother's womb, and naked I shall

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return there. And there is a deep belief in Hasidic
Judaism and in the Kabbala that we actually go through
several lifetimes, so that there is not just life than death,
then the afterlife or nothingness. But ancient Judaism does embrace reincarnation. Now,

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let's go back to ancient Jerusalem. Outside of the Great City,
there is the Henam Valley, and in the Hannam Valley
is an area called Gethenna. This is where our concept
of reincarnation begins to take a deviation, because Gehenna was
where people who were dishonored, who were criminals, and who

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could not afford a proper burial, their body was taken
and burned and they were burned in sulfur pits which.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Were known as brimstone.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
And so if you were evil, if you were a sinner,
if you were bad, you were subjected to fire and brimstone.
So throughout the Gedaeic culture that became a thing to
scare children with. If you're not good, you end up
in fire and brimstone. So then right around sixty three BC,

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General Pompey the Great. Poppy's an interesting character. He was
quite an effective general, and he basically conquered most of
the eastern Mediterranean in the name of Rome, and Jedea
became a client kingdom.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I won't get into the intricacies.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
A client kingdom means that basically you were under Rome's
thumb without being fully occupied. But the thing is the
Roman Empire was really good at a number of things,
one of which was conquest, the other of which was
This is the Roman Empire its greatest extent, which would
be around about one point seventeen a d.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
They came into.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Contact with several other cultures, and as the empire spread
from Italy, we know that the Greek and Roman religions
were essentially the same thing. Like in Greek, the king
of the gods was Zeus, but his name in Latin
was Jupiter, and so on and so forth. So they
basically incorporated their religion from the Greeks as they conquered

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into the Iranian border, which they called Persia, and their
religion of the Zoristorianism and Mythris, the worship of the
light and the sun god started becoming incorporated into the Empire. Certainly,
the influence of the Egyptians and Judea became very very
important in the Roman world, particularly with the rise of Christianity,

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because after Jesus's teachings, Christianity was widely accepted among the Greeks.
Their culture spread throughout the eastern Mediterranean, and then as
the Empire moved into the border with Germany, they came
into other influences such as the god Loki, who's the
lord of the underworld in Norse mythology. He was crafty, malicious,

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the god of fire and magic. He could assume different shapes,
and he was responsible for the death of Balder. Balder
was the son of Odin and his sacred mother Frea,
and Balder, the god of Light, was struck down by
the evil Loki, yet rose on the third day. One
can only wonder what type of influence this out on

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other religions swirling around in the Empire in the first
century AD. And isn't it interesting the way the names
Loki and Lucifer have such a close linguistic significance. So
over time, as the Empire started turning Christian, it began
to be influenced by other relige religions, both within and
on the borders of the empire. In fact, in early Christianity,

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one of the greatest thinkers origin of Alexandria. He was
a bishop and a theologian. He rejected the notion of
eternal damnation and said that even Satan eventually will ascend
to the light, and that we all live a succession
of lifetimes. There was no hell, there was reincarnation, So
in the first couple centuries of Christianity, reincarnation was one

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of its basic tenants.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
By the fourth.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Century, things are going badly for the Roman Empire. There
was constant civil wars. Rival generals were battling, and this
was the emergence of the general Constantine, who later became
known as Constantine the Great. Constantine had his hony and
he was facing off against another general Maxentius, and the
night before a great battle October twenty seventh, in three

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twelve AD, before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, Constantine
had of vision, not quite asleep, not quite awake, and
he saw the image of a cross in the sky
glowing white, and he heard a voice that said, in
this sign you shall conquer. Now, Constantine was not a Christian.

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He was still kind of clinging to the old beliefs
of the gods on Mount Olympus, which pretty much by
this time most of the people in the empire didn't
really follow. But Constantine, being a very astute man, realized, okay,
this is definitely a sign. So he had all the
soldiers paint across on their shields. They went into battle

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obliterated Mixentius, and Constantine became absolute ruler of the Roman world.
And he decided that we need one emperor, one religion,
one system of law. So he ordered all the bishops
to Nicea, which is in modern day Turkey. He stopped
the persecution of Christians, and he said that I want

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an authoritative text for this new relife, and this is
where the Bible came from. So the bishops throughout the
Christian world they decided to take the Torah from Judaism
to be the Old Testament. They started taking gospels. There's
even an alternate version of Genesis and the Creation, which
somehow ended up in the Qur'an. So there's all these

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different versions and letters of Paul. And so now the
first version of the Bible was released at the Council
of Nicea in three twenty five AD. Now it gets
even better because the imperial decree was that Jesus is
God and will return. But until he does, I Constantine,

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Emperor of the Romans and God's vice regent on earth.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So what did he do?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
The ultimate act of ego is creating God in your
own image, so that he now gets to hate and
persecute the same people you do. Well, that's exactly what
he did. And this is where all this oppression starts
with Christianity. Before that, it was the teachings of Christ.
So Constantine changed everything. And by saying that he was

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God's vice region on earth, if you disobeyed the Emperor,
you were cast into an eternal health, fire and damnation
in pits of brimstone. Well, his mother Helena, he sent
her to the Holy Land to Gidea. Helena is credited
with finding the one true Cross, the cross that Jesus

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was crucified on. Well, let's picture what probably happened. This
is the Emperor's mother, okay, the most powerful man on earth,
his word was law. He's just created himself in the
image of Jesus. Yet think his mother sailed alone to
the Holy Land. Of course not, She'd probably have about

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three Roman cohorts protecting her. So figure about fifteen hundred
Roman soldiers her personal entourage in a ten t and
this will be at least another one hundred people. So
then they land in the port of Caesarea and what
is now Israel, and of course the two Roman legions
that were stationed there would be greeting the Emperor's mother,
along with all the bishops, the Roman government, and all

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the citizens. So they bring her to Goal Gotha. So
figure there's about twenty thousand people surrounding Golgatha and they go, oh,
your majesty, our Siedri was crucified there. And so she
goes to gal Gotha. Oh, look, Joe, majesty is the
one true Cross. In fact that he even says it right here,
all right, So now Helena finds the one true Cross.
So when she returns to her son, she is now

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Saint Helena and he is Saint Constantine. So what has
Constantine done. He has created himself in the image of
Jesus and his mother in the image of the Virgin Mary,
thus cementing and solidifying his divine right of.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Being the ruler.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Now let's talk about Saint Constantine for a minute. The
first Christian emp Well, the problem with Saint constantin he
was a genocidal maniac. He pretty much had everybody and
his family executed for treason. Was paranoid beyond belief. He
had no problem having thousands of people put to death.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh, by the way, the.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Coliseum gladiators that was still in full swing. So basically,
if you defy the emperor before he got casted into
fire and brimstone, you're thrown to the lions for entertainment.
So this guy was anything but saintly. By the end
of his life, they said he wore this weird wig
of all these different colors, and he insisted on people
grubbling in front of them.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Constantine went insane with power.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
But he was also a brilliant politician because he solidified
his position as the divine ruler of the Roman world,
and he also moved the capital of the empire from
Rome to Constantinople, the City of Constantine.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
We need to take our first break, but when we
come back, you'll hear more about Constantine, the formation of
the Bible, Reincarnate, some reincarnation stories, and a whole lot more.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back

(13:29):
to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Let's continue
with Mark Anthony's description of Roman Emperor Constantine, his impact
on the Bible, a look at reincarnation, near death experiences,
and more.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Constantine went insane with power, but he was also a
brilliant politician because he solidified his position as the divine
ruler of the Roman world, and he also moved the
capital of the empire from Rome to Constantinople, the city
of Constantine. When he moved the capital of the empire,

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Christianity was initially focused on Constantinople. The Patriarch of Constantinople
was the leader of the Christian religion and the pope
was the Bishop of Rome. But this is where the
squabbling in Christianity started, because now you have Roman Christianity
versus Greek Christianity, and the tension started there. However, because

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of the divine right of kings that Constantine created in
the Christian sense of the empire collapsed with Germanic invasions.
Every king, every duke and ruler in the western section
of the Empire took on the role of the divine
right of kings, and this is where all of this started.
Even to this day, the monarch of England is known

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as the defender of the Faith. And of course in
the Eastern Mediterranean, and when Islam started to rise up
the caliphate. A caliph is an ordained ruler by Allah
God to rule. I remember when I saw Isis rising
a few years ago, I go, Dear God, because the
last caliphate was the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which is destroyed

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in World War One. And when I started to see
a new caliphate rising, this is really serious stuff because
the caliphate is a very dangerous thing because these people
are ordained by God to conquer. So anyway, all this
was going on, and so the Western Empire collapses but
the eastern half now takes on a new name as

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the Byzantine Empire, because Constantinople used to be the city
of Byzantium. Long story short, Two hundred years after Constantine,
the Emperor Justinian rises. Justinian's another fascinating guy. Our system
of justice corpus juris sivilis, was ordered into existence by Justinian,
So our system, our legal system, comes from him.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
But he did another thing.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
He ordered the Fifth Ecumenical Council, and at the fifth
Ecumenical Council, reincarnation was banned as heresy because the Emperor,
God's emperor on earth. Justinian did not want anyone having
an escape clause. If you don't listen to the Emperor,
if you do not follow the laws of the Empire,

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you will be eternally condemned.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
They didn't want anything.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Oh well, I'll just come back as you know something else.
It's like, oh, no, okay, And so now what to
a fifth version of the Bible in Constantinople, and of
course in Rome. The Bishop of Rome, who's now assumed
the title of Hope wasn't all very happy about that.
So now we start having different versions of the Bible
popping up now, people think that reincarnation was eliminated from

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the Bible. However, there's a couple passages where it appears
to have survived, and the Transfiguration being one of them.
Where Jesus brings a couple of his disciples up to
the top of a mountain and he begins to glow
white and white images appear on earth side of him,
Elijah and Moses. And if you read and observe authentic

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physical mediumship, this is an account of it. So apparently Jesus,
among many other things, was capable of projecting ecoplasm and
formed Moses and Elijah on either side of him. And
then when they come off the mountain, Jesus asks his disciples,
who do you say that I am? They say, well,

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some say that you are the prophet Elijah returned. Others
say that you are John the Baptist. And according to
the Gospel, he replied, Elijah did come to restore all things,
but he came in the form of John the Baptist.
Elijah lived eight hundred years before Jesus and his cousin
John the Baptist. This by accounts of not just Christian

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but also Buddhists and Hindu scholars. They believe this is
actually a reference to reincarnation, because what Jesus is saying is, yeah,
Elijah came back as my cousin John over eight hundred
years now. Even though mainstream Islam rejects reincarnation, the more
progressive schools of thought in Islam welcome it. One of

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their greatest philosophers was Roomy, and he wrote that I
died as a mineral and became a plant. I died
as a plant and rose to animal. I died as
an animal, and I was man. Why should I sear
when was eyeless by dying? So what Rumy was saying
is that we go through a succession of lifetimes from

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the transmigration of souls. You go from being an insect
to an animal, to a human, and on and on.
Benjamin Franklin actually believed in reincarnation. He wrote his own
epitaph on his tombstone, The printer like the cover of
an old book, its contents torn out and stripped of
its lettering and gilding, lies here food for worms. But

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the work shall not be wholly lost, for it will,
as he believed, appear once more in a new and
more perfect edition. Corrected and amended by the author Thomas Edison,
George Patton, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, There's a lot I
could talk about him. He was working on technology to
communicate with the other side. And Henry Ford came to

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the conclusion that reincarnation existed when he was twenty six.
He said, genius's experience. It's not a gift, it's the
experience of many long lives. The West opened up to
reincarnation when George Harrison of the Beatles met Rabbi Shankar.
All of a sudden started writing songs about it, talking
about it openly, and it was starting to go from
kind of fringe to pop culture. And then Shirley McClain,

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a major Academy Award winning movie star, respected author, goes
on the world stage and announces that she believes hen reincarnation.
Oprah Winfrey, Loretta Lynn Prince, all types of people these
days are beginning to believe in reincarnation. Albert Einstein said
that science without religion is lame, and religion without science

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is blind. So this brings us to the work of
doctor Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia. Unfortunately, he
passed in two thousand and seven because he did fascinating
studies in reincarnation children who had not only past life memories,
but of a recent past life where they could identify

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the family that they said they were from.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
And what he did is he approached reincarnation strictly from
a scientific viewpoint, and he saw his job as to
gather all the nominalist data. He kept religion out of it.
He wanted it strictly to be science. And what he
found what children is as soon as the child could communicate,
they start to describe a previous lifetime. The child remembers
details of his or her death based on information provided

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by the child to the bio life family. The child's
family from the prior incarnation is eventually identified. Personality traits,
personal preferences, habits persist from one incarnation to the next.
The gender usually stays the same. Relationships are renewed through reincarnation. Also,
phobias traumatic deaths in particular leave an emotional imprint, for example,

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fear of drowning the wall, concerned about being careful in
the water. But some people have these phobias that they
can't explain, which brings us to the fascinating case of
James Leininger. As a toddler, he begin to have nightmares
about being trapped in a plane shot down by the Japanese.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
All right, three year old.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Kids start saying, my plane was a Corsair. My ship
was then the Tooma and Chi Chi GiMA Chi chi
gem and his parents are like, what okay? And his
parents were not particularly religious people. They certainly didn't believe
in reincarnation, and they're like, what's all this chi chigemon?

Speaker 1 (21:58):
The tona thing? So his father started doing some research.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
But then as a son got older, he started drawing
pictures of his playing getting shot down, referred to himself
as James three, James three, and where's my friend Jack Larson?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Jack Larson.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Then he had three Gi Joe dolls that he named Leon,
Walter and Billy. Got his father so curious because this
appeared not to be a delusion. This child had facts,
had figures, and his father found out that there was
indeed a USS Natoma Bay and it was what's known
as an escort carrier. Toward the end of the war,

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it flew corsairs. Further investigation yielded that there was a
Lieutenant James Houston Jr. Twenty one year old pilot a
boy in Natoma Bay. It was shot down at Chichi
Jima during the Battle of Iwo Jima, and Leon Walter
and Billy were three of the pilots that flew with

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James Houston. But why James. His father's name was Bruce,
Bruce Leninger. And then they found out that James Houston's
father and grandfather were both named James, so that if
he were James Houston, he would be referring to himself
as James the Third. But what about Jack Larson, the

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friend he talked about the most. Jack was alive. His
parents took James to a reunion of the USS Natoma Bay,
so Jack Larson was not only alive. When Lininger attended
the Natoma Bay reunion, he started talking about intricate details

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about his crewmates, even talk about girls they used to date,
and Larson said, this kid's got to be Jim Houston.
Then he meets Anne Houston Baron, who would have been
the sister of James Houston, and she said, this child
couldn't know the things he does.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
He just couldn't.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
So I believe he is somehow part of my brother.
Now my job is to present evidence for you to decide.
But this brings us next to the curious case of
Louise Eddie. Louise Eddie was born in nineteen oh four
to a proper Edwardian family in England, and when she
was about four years old, she fell. She had a

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terrible injury and when she woke up she started having
these memories of a past life in ancient Egypt. By
the time she was eighteen, she managed to garner the
funds and went to Egypt. She went to work and
volunteered with archaeologists and they were astounded because within a

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year she could not only read Egyptian hieroglyphics, she could
actually speak the language, and the archaeologists saying it takes
PhDs decades to get to the point where she learned
it right away. The archaeologist humored her, and so she
started to tell them, well, if you excavate over here,
there used to be an irrigation system, and over there

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there used to be an orchard, like yeah, yeah, And
then they started finding remains of an orchard exactly where
she said it was, remains of an irrigation system exactly
where she said it was, among reincarnation experts. People conclude
that she's an authentic case. And what's fascinating, she's not
talking about a lifetime a few decades back. She's talking
about one thirty three centuries ago.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Time for the break and we'll be right back. You're
listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to

(26:00):
Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're listening
to Mark Anthony, author of Evidence of Eternity. Now we're
going to turn to the realm of quantum physics and
the afterlife.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Albert Einstein matters energy. Energy is light. We are all
light beings. Think about it. Life depends on light. If
it weren't for the light of the sun, this planet
would be nothing more than a chunk of ice floating
through space. The food that we eat, the plants, the
animals they eat, the plants, are all dependent upon photosynthesis.

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Every great spiritual teacher has described God in terms of
the light. Buddhist said, this is the way to the light.
Jesus said, I am the way to the light. Christian
had described the light Mohammed the light the Native Americans
the light, the philosopher Rumy said, the lamps may be different,
but the light is the same. So seeing reoccurring descriptions

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of God being described in light, and for those of
us who do encounter the other sided, for all of
you who've had these experiences, we believe that perceiving the
light is a form of perception of the spiritual energy
of the infinite, which what you and I.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Could call God.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Now, through the study of quantum physics, what we have
found is that matter and energy, which includes light, are
composed of tiny units of electromagnetic energy known as quanta.
Long story short, we've all learned in school that everything's
made up of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms. Atoms
are made of electrons, protons, and neutrons, and they are
made of yet a smaller particle on a subatomic level,

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known as quanta, which is electromagnetic energy. Everything is this
carpet you, the air we're breathing, the light, we're seeing,
the space between the Earth and the Sun. The nuclear
reactions within the Sun and beyond are all at the
most basic unit electromagnetic energy, known as quanta. Now, for decades,

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scientists have wondered if you drop something on your foot,
why and how do you immediately feel it. Clearly it's
not chemical that would take too long to slash on
through your body, so it has to be electrical, and
it appears to move at the speed of light. And
in recent decades the Russians, particularly Serja Maybrow at the
Lebedev Institute of Physics in Moscow, have discovered biophotons that

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our cells actually emit flashes of light to communicate with
each other. This is not bioluminescence. This is not what
a firefly does or a lantern fish does. This is
invisible to the naked eye, and our cells appear to
emit flashes of ultra weak light and that's whyther known

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as biophotons. So what this indicates is that our body
is actually a matrix of light. Fritz Albert Poff from
the International Institute of Biophysics in Germany, so that biophoton
emission is a general phenomenon of all living systems. Biophotons
originate from a coherent photon field within the living organism,

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its function being intra and intercellular regulation and communication. In
other words, our body communicates through light and We know
that light can transmit information and data because the space
center does that. Space programs do this. One of the
concepts I developed in my book Evidence or Attorney is enlightenment.

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Enlightenment can be either empirical knowledge that all of a
sudden you figure out, or it is your perception of
the divine in the spiritual sense. But what we must
also realize is enlightenment is embracing and accepting the light
which is in with all of us. So think about
it like this, everything's quanta, including light. Our body creates

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the same light that we perceive when perceiving God. Ergo,
the Kingdom of God is within, and we know from
the laws of physics. Energy is neither created nor destroyed,
only transferred from one form to another. The quantum field
in the brain is energy, and faith teaches us the soul,
also known as consciousness, is an immortal living spirit, and

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that the soul pre exists the body comes into the body,
lives on after the body dies. Energy neither created nor destroyed,
only transferred from one form to another. The death of
consciousness only exists as a thought because people identify themselves
with a body, and so that if a body receives
consciousness the same way a cable box receives satellite signals. Then,

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of course consciousness doesn't end at death. But what does
happen is that the energy of your consciousness gets recycled
back into a different body at some point, and in
the meantime exists outside of the physical body, on some
other level of reality and possibly in another universe. This

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is the scientific explanation for reincarnation. So when people say that, oh, well,
you know your consciousness is generated by the brain, well, unfortunately,
almost forty thousand Americans a year developed Alzheimer's, and the
death often involves a long physical and mental decline where
the person is non responsive. I've seen this with people

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very close to me. While my father didn't technically have Alzheimer's,
he had cancer which got into his brain, and it
was a Navy seal, a NASA engineer, and watching him
not even be able to recognize where he was was
one of the most heart wrenching things that I've ever
been through, probably ever will. But we know that a

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brain affected by cancer or in this case, with Alzheimer's,
is physically different. A brain affected by Alzheimer's is shrunken,
it's malnourished, it's deformed. And what happens is that brain
scientists agree, even the skeptics, they'll agree that a severely

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damaged brain makes normal cognition impossible. But then we've been
documenting worldwide, five to ten percent of the cases involving
terminally ill people suffering from Alzheimer's and severe dementia where
death is very near, a phenomenon which defies medical science
has been identified. The patient suddenly regains lucidity right before death.

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They wake up, they recognize family members, they start communicating
with them.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Guess what.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Hippocrates in ancient Greece actually documented cases of this, So
did Plutarch in ancient Rome, the Hindus, the Muslims. Throughout
thousands of years, cases of this have been documented, and
this is now known as terminal lucidity. Doctor Michael Nahm

(32:51):
in Germany said, terminal lucidy is an unexpected return of
mental clarity which occurs right before a patient's death. And
the thing is, it's not just in Alzheimer's, it's in
several different types of illnesses brain toor strokes, meningitis, schizophrenia.
In other words, there is no one cause. There is

(33:12):
no explanation for it. There's no observable change in the brain.
And why does somebody suddenly recover complete sanity from someone
has been non responsive for days, weeks, months, even years,
And what accounts for terminal lucidity. All the doctors agree

(33:33):
that right before you die or brain doesn't suddenly grow
a billion new neurons. Well, that's because consciousness has nothing
to do with your brain. Consciousness derives from quantum vibrations
within the brain's neurons, and in the spiritual sense, consciousness
has been here all along. These are findings by Sir

(33:53):
Roger Penrose of Oxford, Stuart Hammerhoff, University of Arizona, the
MIT and Institute Material Sciences of Japan, and the University
of Pennsylvania, and one of my favorite professors, Professor Hans
Peter dah It's a Max Planck Institute for Physics in Germany.

(34:13):
Zubrain is like a come true to hard drives. When
Venza had drive dies, we do not lose this information,
this consciousness. Zubadhi dies, but the spiritual quantum field continues.
In this way, we're immortal. But that's what they're saying,
that the brain is actually a formatting and hosting device.

(34:35):
It does not create who and what you are, and
that ties into what faith has been teaching us and
what the biocentrists have been teaching us throughout the center.
Even Leonardo da Vinci concluded that consciousness pre existed the
brain and then left the brain upon physical death. So
the Buddha and science agree, you are not your body,

(34:58):
So quantum conscience business. When the body dies, the energy
of a quantum spiritual field is not destroyed, it is transferred.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Where does it go?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Well, that's where all the mediums here and Sonia come in,
right and Sandra the schwartz Child. Quantum lattice theory is
fascinating because scientists have found that an electron will disappear
and then reappear the same electron in a different location
without traversing going through the matter in between.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
How does it do this? Why does it do this?
Where does it go? Well?

Speaker 4 (35:33):
The theory is it's a quantum leap, which is not
just a show with Scott Bacula in it. No, it
is a transfer of our energy from one dimension to
another through what they believe to be a very small
version of a wormhole, and that dimension we refer to
as the other side. You can call it heaven, happy Valley, Nirvana,

(35:55):
whatever you want to call it. It is a parallel
dimension which runs and exists with our dimension in near
death experiences. This is where we're beginning to see that
there is a scientific basis for the two different dimensions,
because when a person physically dies in that person's spirit
separates from their body, their consciousness remains intact and they

(36:18):
go into the light. Doctor Raymond Moody, I know everybody
here is familiar with him. Great guy was such an
honor when he endorsed my book Evidence of Maturity. Back
in the nineteen seventies. He started using the scientific method
of objective analysis to compile data on accounts that have
been going on since the dawn of history about people

(36:41):
who have died in come back to life and told
of their experiences, and he coined the phrase near death experience.
My good friend, doctor Jeffrey Long, is the founder of
end Earth, the Near Death Experience Research Foundation, and he's noncologist, okay,
And he said, I had no spiritual background or in this,
and I'm seeing one patient after another start talking about this.

(37:03):
So he created ENDERF, which is the world's largest database
of near death experiences. So many respected people in both
ancient and modern times have reported NDEs near death experiences.
Plato wrote in the last passage in his book or
series of books, the Republic talks about the soldier Err

(37:25):
and Err was killed in a battle, and I suppose
he was dead for nine days. They put him on
a funeral pyre, and all of a sudden he wakes
up and he starts to tell about this walld he
went to that was filled with light and had nothing
to do with the Greek mythological belief system of the time.
And so Plato wrote that Er left the cave of
shadows to see the light of truth.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I have a sneaky suspicion you can agree this is
some fascinating stuff. When we come back from the break,
we'll hear some near death experience stories and how Star
Wars is connected. We'll be right back with more, Mark Anthony.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

(38:06):
and Coastcoast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades

(38:31):
of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and you're listening to
the psychic lawyer Mark Anthony. You can find out more
about him at Evidenceofeternity dot Com and his books Evidence
of Eternity, The Afterlife Frequency and Never Letting Go Healing
Grief with Help from the Other Side. Let's continue with

(38:53):
the speech he made at my we Don't Die event
in Orlando over five years ago. And I am extremely
grateful for modern technology to make it possible for you
to hear today the Bible.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Not to be outdone the apostle Paul. He was a
Roman citizen, which meant that he had special protections and guarantees.
Is an original name was Saul, and his job was
to persecute Christians. And supposedly when he was going from
Judea to Damascus, he was struck by a bright white
light and lay dead for three days and then came back.

(39:29):
And many theologians believe that Paul may have been writing
about his own near death experience. Mozart, Queen Victoria, Abraham Lincoln,
Winston Churchill, Sartha Conan Doyle. Elizabeth Taylor did a wonderful
interview where she talked about her nde. She died on
an operating table and went into the light and she
saw Michael Todd and in more recent years, Sharon Stone,

(39:51):
Leonardo DiCaprio, Tracy Morgan, Johnny Depp, Charlie Steering, George Clooney.
I have all reported near death experiences as I had one,
my father had two near death experiences, and my mother
also had a near death experience. The funny thing is
when my parents had them, the term NDE didn't exist.

(40:14):
But growing up in a family of people who can
see spirits, they knew that they had journey to the
other side. Near death experience similarities. You see people who
are dead, you're convinced of their reality. Race, gender, religion
are not a factor. Drugs and anesthesia are not a factor.
It's not a hallucination. Their psychic ability is enhanced and

(40:35):
you lose your fear of death. Doctor Kenneth Ring, friend
and colleague near death experience researcher, wrote about a woman
who died on an operating table. All since she felt
her consciousness separated from her body, and she was hovering
above the table, and she saw everybody in the operating room,
and she said she went by a light fixture and

(40:55):
noticed the top of it was really dirty, and the
next thing she knew, she was hovering above the hospital
and noticed in one of the storm drains the rain gutters.
There was this blue tennis shee stuck there, so they
revived her. When she came out of it, she starts
talking about The surgeon goes, get two people up on
the roof right now, and they went up in exactly
where she said it was was a blue tennis shoe.

(41:19):
And I love it when the skeptics say, well, this
is a function of the dying brain, is it now,
doctor John Hagen of the University of Missouri, So we
can bring patients back from death who have traveled further
on the path than at any other time in history.
The recollections often refute physicians scientific explanations of how an

(41:39):
oxygen starved brain can produce such vivid and often corroborated
for ridical recollections. So what are the after effects of
a near death experience? How does it affect the people
that have them? Well, it's a life changing event, and
the ears lose their fear of death or commer less judgmental,

(42:01):
less materialistic, become more spiritual, compassionate, and loving. They have
enhanced psychic ability, a sense of timelessness. At age sixteen,
George Lucas died in a car accident. He flatlined for
twenty minutes and he was revived and told of going
into the light and this amazing experience. By the time
he was twenty two, had a draft of Star Wars

(42:24):
and he talks about the Force, the energy which binds
and connects all of us. Now, the Force is what
gives a Jedi Knight his power. It is an energy
field created by all living things. It surrounds us and
penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together. Sounds a lot

(42:46):
like Kwanta, doesn't it. Now, think about what a Jedi
Knight symbolizes versus like Darth Vader and the dark side
of the Force. The Jedi Knight is the one positively
influenced and is spiritual as a reuss ultimate a near
death experience, less judgmental, less materialistic, compassionate feeling of interconnectedness,

(43:07):
that we're all one, we're all energetically interconnected. And Darth
Vader is the symbol of the ego. It's pure narcissism, power, control, aggression.
But think about the effects of a near death experience.
I mean, Star Wars is one of the biggest movie
franchises in history and it's still ongoing, and how it's
affected us. People talk about the force and all that,

(43:29):
and this is where it came from, was from George
Lucas's near death experience. Edgar Mitchell astronaut, Navy pilot, astronomical
engineer and ufoologists in my life have been honored to
meet Neil Armstrong, Buzz Algren, John Glenn and Mike Foreman,
who is one of the pilots of the Space Shuttle,
and it's really interesting when they're not on camera and

(43:50):
what they talk about. But edgar Mitchell said that when
subatomic matter is in a process together, subsequently the subatomic
particles go apart from each each other and across the universe.
When they do this, they will remain entangled. This means
if he do something to one, the other responds instantaneously.

(44:11):
This is what's known as quantum entanglement. For every action,
there's an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever a man sows,
he shall read.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Okay. All of the great.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Religions talk about this, and now quantum physicists have proven
that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Albert Einstein there is no matter. There is just energy
which vibrates at different frequencies. So we are living in
the material world, and let's go with what Einstein said.
There's no matter. We're just energy and we're vibrating at

(44:42):
a lower and slower frequency. That's why I call it
the material world dimension. When we die, we go to
the other side and once we are at a higher
vibration that our energy, our frequency amplitude is increased. And
so interdimensional communication, which is when you have a dream
or contact experience or mediums were able to communicate with

(45:04):
the other side, or near death experiences, this is what's happening.
It is where the two energetic systems, the two parallel
dimensions universes, overlap and intersect, and that's how spirit communication
and mediumship is possible. That's the basis for near death experiences.
This isn't philosophy, This is physics. But does it sound

(45:28):
like science fiction? Think about what happens. We're going to
make a cell phone call. So let's say you want
to talk to your aunt Martha and England. Your brain
sends an electromagnetic impulse your lungs, So the electrical energy
in your brain becomes muscular energy, which causes your lungs
to contract, forcing air out. BEI another vibration goes to
your vocal cords, and so that mechanical energy becomes muscular energy,

(45:51):
which becomes soundwave energy, which it's the plate in your
phone and begins to vibrate. So the soundwave energy then
becomes mechanical energy. It's because the electrical energy, and then
it becomes radio wave energy when your phone transmits the
radio signal to a towel, taking the radiowave energy, converting
to electrical energy, running through miles of wires up to
a collection point with then converse electrical energy into radio
off energy, which then hits a satellite in orbit, taking

(46:12):
the radio ways turning into a system of microwave energy
and transmit through a number of satellites, so finds the
right one to givert the microwaves back to radio waves,
goes the collection point in England, turning the radio waves
into electrical energy, which goes through several miles of wires
to another point during the electrical energy back into radio
wave energy which hits the antenna and Aunt Martha's cell
phone taking the electrical energy turning into mechanical energy as

(46:33):
the plate in her cell phone begins a vibrary take
the mechanical enginer and sound wave energy to set your
ear brunt, and then her ear jump begins a vibrate,
causing the eighth cranial nerve to be struck by these
staatee spones in the minimal ear and takes that mechanical
energy turm electrical energy, which becomes.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Hello, Aunt Martha.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
And all of that happens at one hundred and eighty
six thousand, two hundred and eighty two miles per second.
So energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from
one form to another. Do you ever really think what
that means? Well, that's what it is. And so people
tell me spirit communication isn't real. And Nikola Tesla said,
when wireless is perfectly applied, the whole earth will be

(47:13):
converted into a huge brain. We will be able to
communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Not only this, but.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Through television and telephony, we shall see and hear one
another as perfectly as though we were face to face,
despite intervening distances of thousands of miles.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
A man will be able or.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
A woman to carry them in their vest pocket. This
was an interview in nineteen twenty six with Nikola Tesla
by John Kennedy of Colliers Magazine. So the science fiction,
the fantasy of yesterday is the reality of today. So
what's the moral of the story. The next time someone

(47:57):
doubts your contact with spirits, past life memories, or your
near death experiences.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Remember the Force is with you. I'll tell you what
he did.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
He sold Star Wars to Disney for four billion dollars.
Then he donated most of it to charity. And that's
the after effect of an end. That's the compassion, the giving,
the love. That's where the Jedi Night comes from. And
if you want to find out more about what I
believe and my experiences, there's two books written by my

(48:28):
favorite author of all time, me, but they're in several
languages around the world.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
And it's been very humbling.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
To see how what I have to say has affected
so many people in so many different ways. Thank you
Sandra for having me.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
And thank you Mark for a lifetime of work. Wow,
talk about somebody following their passion. You'll enjoy his books,
I know you will. Evidence of Eternity dot Com so
much in one episode. I hope it's made a difference
back to where we started with the Bible religion. Please

(49:06):
make me one promise that you'll try to see life
from other people's perspectives and that you can ask for
them to see life from your perspective. When my dad died,
I got heavy into after life investigation, studying grief, wrote
my book. My sister turned to religion and the Bible.

(49:28):
Unfortunately we don't have a relationship as she doesn't agree
with what it is that I do. And that's okay.
A wise soul once told me relationships can be like
circles coming apart at the bottom and they come back
together at the top. Will it be this world or
the next world? I don't know, but I think my

(49:48):
sister and my siblings, and my dad and my mom,
if they didn't play the roles they did, I would
have never gone on to study the afterlife and be
with you here today. Don't forget. Come visit me at
we Dootdie dot com. Join me at one of our
free Sunday gatherings with medium demonstrations, take a class, and

(50:10):
so much more. Never forget you are a miraculous being
of light and that you are surrounded by so much
love in that parallel universe called the afterlife. You are
supremely loved. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for
listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and

(50:33):
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
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