January 6, 2025 • 63 mins
Kate Hudson played a bridezilla in the movie "Bride Wars" co-written by Casey Wilson who joins the revelry with her brother Fletcher.
Find out how one of the best romantic comedies came to be and why it almost got an "R" rating!
Plus, the outrageous skit that landed Casey a job on SNL, and a candid confession from Kate and Oliver about what REALLY motivates them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling raivalry.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You look depressed. I'm not. I'm not depressed. But what
you're looking at is just are you annoyed? No, what
you're looking at is me. I just can't kick this
goddamn cold.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh you're annoyed at the cold.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's just like it's so frustrate.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Have you done any uh? Have you done a watching
McCall it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I did a watch McCall it. I was amazing.
I mean honestly, we should have the founder of watching
McCall it on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Because it's like, I just think, have you done an uh?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was a great candy bar still is.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh the watch you McCall its.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I haven't done much. Here's the thing I had to.
I think I relapsed, you know, because I wasn't feeling
great all week sort of like, and then Friday I
was like, oh, I feel pretty good, and then I
drank whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We'll talk about this with the Wilsons.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Fletcher and yeah, yeah, go ahead, because you know Casey well,
Casey yes, So Casey and June we're the writers on
bride Wars and are they here?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And so yes, my brother, Hi, everybody pleasure.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So I was just telling Oliver about how we know
each other, which is Casey and June wrote Bride Wars,
which was originally a very rated R bride Wars that
was at Miramax and then mirra Max fell apart and
(02:25):
Fox picked it up New Regency and then slowly but
surely it became a PG version of what Casey and
June initially wrote.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So basically, sure, you don't want to go through more
of like how it is distributed, kind of behind the curtains,
kind of behind the thing, like how many theaters it
was in case I can know no, because this is important.
Fox did a copro with Warners.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But this is important because we were ahead of the
curve when it came to like a very you know,
rated our female comedy and they didn't want to do it.
But when Judd Apatow wanted to make Bridesmaids, they were
very happy to be a little bit more what we
were trying to initially do. To begin with, we were
(03:15):
ahead of the curve, we were out of the curveline.
And then and then we kind of got a little
smushed by them wanting it to be PG. But Casey
and June wrote the most. I wish I sometimes wish
we could put out that original script because it was
so deeply funny.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Well, you hired two people that had not only never
like written anything, we like, never been written down our
sketch show. You were like, and we're pitching you and
you're living on like a forty five minute pitch. We
didn't know it should be shorter. And you were so
friendly to us, and oh but we love you for
hiring us.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Thank you well, it was the best welcome to sibling revelry.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes, thanks for having us.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, thanks for having and thanks for having my brother.
He certainly never had his moment in the sun.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Before, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In his own career, in his own career.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I'm four years younger, so there's you know, a lot
of time still.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Where are you, Fletcher, Are you in Los Angeles?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'm not. I'm in the Philadelphia area now. A lot
of time in San Francisco and back back East's.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Not a performer guy, some society.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I mean, you really keep hammering that. I mean I
feel like I want to I want to establish that
I chose not to be a performer. I mean, you
could have anyone. Anyone can just be an actor, right,
just got the time?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But but Fletcher, what do you do to contribute to
the society?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
This is a good question.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You want to tell them what you do?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I kind of want to hear Casey Pitchett first.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But my brother has a toilet business.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, do you sell totos?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So I wish it was totos? No, why don't you
tell Fletcher they're public?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I got excited because I was like, maybe I'm going
to get a discount on a toto.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I can see what I can do. But no, that's
that's sort of the pitch my five year old still
has that my dad makes toilets. What we are trying
to do to contribute to society or I love the
framing is we are trying to solve the public bathroom
infrastructure problem. So we are we are selling these really
nice solar powered bathrooms to cities to put all over
(05:24):
the place, so that there's always a really nice bathroom,
whether you're a parrot with children, someone who's maybe housing disadvantaged,
all these different.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
The three of us important work. We're doing the real work, right,
eating those people.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Before they go to the right, right, right right or
exactly or or if we're if we don't do well,
then there's a place for them to throw up.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, it all fits together.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Everyone doing their part here on this.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Wow, that's that's actually really cool. I actually kind of
want to know more about him.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's actually an.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Amazing business, I will say.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
And it's doing incredible and they have them in in
La in MacArthur Park with the city told Butcher if
if the toilets are not burned down, it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Is a success. Yes, and they are still standing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Now, they're they're they're all over La and hopefully more
to come. But yeah, Thrown Thrown is the name of
the company. My wife came up in the name, not me.
You can't take it there, but yeah, yeah, But I
will say from an early age, Casey was pretty clear
to tell me, Fletcher, you're you're not the performer in
the family. Let me take the stage. So I've I've
graciously handed that over and and focused on different different.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Let me, Fletcher, let me ask you a question though,
Were you wanting to be a headliner a front man?
And Casey was like, hey, buzz r, fuck off, this
is my ship.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I mean, there is video footage from our living room
that would like, verily, very clearly point at exactly that.
What'd you say, Fletcher, get off the Stage's the fans line, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, Fletcher, out of here and get on with it?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah? Yeah, But I will say no, I've liked I
have a deep appreciation for uh movies and comedy, and
I even did Casey, would you call it an embarrassing
phase of my life where I did do some stand
up comedy amiliating nod.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
In San Francisco and He's like, head into my set.
I'm like, get a hold of yourself, get a grip.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I have. I have a cult following of seven friends
who enjoyed my sets. But I did fly my sister
and dad in and had just a bad No. I mean,
I've done this fifteen times, but I did have a
bad night with my sister in the audience, and I
saw her just kind of like just stick to your.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Lane, having her in the audience. Did that make you
feel more nervous? Yes, Oh, give me a bit, Give
me one bit, O give me one I mean sure, give.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Sure, I mean I think I think that you remember
it all right at the it's right at the fingertips.
I'm a short man. You might not be able to
tell here. I'm a five foot five gentlemen. And I
think that the bit was and sorry to other comedians
if this is already out there, but it was about
shopping and how I had found that the that the
(08:18):
twenty nine lengths always seemed to be up high on
the shelf, and I was recruiting other short gentlemen to
you know, help shirp me to rise up and you know,
help deprecating following in my sister's footsteps where her bread
and butter has.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Been Okay, I like that there's something there, something but
you've carried No. No, I'm in because I think you
could do you know, like a where someone steps on
your hands, or you can do shoulder, you know what
I mean. Like there's there's a world to go there
with this bit, like after after we're after we finished
this podcast, let's exchange numbers and work on it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Ally.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm just curious. Did do you feel nervous when I
watch your shows? No, because you don't watch my show.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Do you watch the first one, like the pilots or.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you just not nothing? My family hasn't really watched
the kind of content I do.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Definitely, that's not true. I definitely watched the pilots. My
favorite of Oliver's was Nashville. I watched everything, and then I.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Would definitely watch me. That's true.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You were in it and you were helping.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This is true, and I loved I watched two episodes
of The Cleaning Lady okay, and he was great. And
I definitely watched Splitting Up Together. What are you talking about?
I watched all the way up to the time when
you were with the girl the New Girl that was
like the first episode, and then held on. Here's the thing, Kate,
(09:57):
I still haven't seen your sex is I don't watch
him say just like that right title. Kate knows how
talented I am. The problem is is that she doesn't
think I'm talented as an actor.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She goes, you need to write and produce and direct.
More so, she's always given me this back handed compliments
of like those stupid you know what you should read, Oliver, Oliver, Oliver,
you're such a good writer. Oliver, you're such a good writer.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You're not such a good writer, You're you're an exceptionally
good writer. You're an exceptionally good writer. You're exceptionally you know. Well,
I think I think you've already shown the great promise
and talent in directing.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'll win Academy Awards. But just in ten to twenty years,
that's what's going to happen. And but for now, you
can catch me on Netflix with Alicia Silverstone on a
Christmas movie. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So that's not easy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I haven't shot it yet in February, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But this is exactue.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
This is the big ship that Oliver Hudson is doing,
you know what I mean? Like you, Jackman, I'm doing
this on a second.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She's legendary. This is exciting, your exciting. They didn't to
find this out this.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Morning, No, no, no, I've known this. I just don't
tell people my accomplishments. I don't want people. I don't
want my family to get jealous.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Riot you wyots and talks.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'm actually excited. It's it's really sweet and cute and
wholesome and so cute. Yeah, it'll be fun and she's
she's a dream yeah yeah, but but but and then
we'll get into you guys. Leiss just talk about my career.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
This is promoting.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
No no, no, no no, this has nothing to do
with Wait, well, I'm just saying. So Netflix has taken
is doing the Hallmark Christmas thing. And there's these Christmas
shows that are out now. They're all number one, like
they're all number one, but I click on some of
them and it's insane. There's one show called Hot Frosty. Okay,
(12:03):
have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Is this when the guys are dancing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
No, that's the other one with Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I saw that Hot Frosty to you, so all of
a sudden, you watching Chad Michael Murray as like some
like Handyman who is doing full Monty hands Handyman.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And then Hot Frosty was there's a snowman and they
put a scarf around the neck because this girl, Lacy
Shambletta or whatever cannot find a man. And I guess
Hot Frosty turns into this like hot fucking dude with
abs and hair. I'm like, is this what I'm getting
into because I am not hot Frosty. I get ready, Wait,
(12:45):
I've got gray chest hair like Italian chains.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Was that a Hallmark movie?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
This is on Netflix right now. These are the Christmas
movies that are getting put out on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They're pushing them below.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Got nervis. Oh gosh, Well, you know what, I'm a
small town doctor in this, So.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Who strips.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Casey is the right person to rewrite the script.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And then I'll be sending you over.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then I'll write a small but powerful part for
my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
A moment.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, okay, Casey Fletcher, where did you guys grow up?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Before we get into this? I love the toilet thing.
I just want to say, Fletcher, I'm sort of more
interested in that than Casey's career. I just want to
because I do think that you can expand this, because
you know there's pop up shops and stuff. People do
pop up restaurants or pop up you could do pop
up public toilets.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
We're doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We're doing it, but then they go away. It's like
bank just destroy the ship out of this pun intended
and then we're just going to take them away. Is
that kind of what we're dealing with?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You got to get there, trying to keep them there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And we do both, we do events. I mean, there's
there's a lot to it, but yeah, it's a lot.
I think I think you're gonna love it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Pop up, by the way, you can have this pop
up potties. Don thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm writing it down, he says you. But he's always
looking for a dollar. Just give him point five percent
and he'll be and you'll never hear where. So where
did you guys grow up?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
We grew up in Alexandria, Virginia, which is like five
minutes from Washington, d c. M.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Our mom's from Jacoma Park.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. And you know it's so funny. I was just
listening to the Governor of Virginia this morning on the
news talking about how he's making tips.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's a lot happening there, guys. And there was a
lot happening in the early eighties and Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I were running around.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Our parents treated us a bit different. Flecher.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
They funneled money into his private school education and they
left me in public.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It was a it was a double blind experiment and
we're still waiting for the results.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I'm an actor and Blechers and mechanical engineer.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I can't even add.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They said I was thriving socially, so they left me
in the public school.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
That's that's good. I mean, that's proud of that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know, you wait, how many years apart are you, guys?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Four three four? That's that's actually like interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And you're and you're older or younger who's older? So oh,
so the baby got all the all.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
The I mean I was I was oddly like kind
of ripped out of public school in the middle of
a week in fourth grade. And it was unclear that
this experiment was being We did not consent to this
double blind experiment. But I was kind of thrown into
a different world. And I don't I don't know what
if there was.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Buter was exceptionally like gifted in math. And I think
they thought, let's put our money behind what they built.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But for their credit, to their credit, they built a stage.
My dad built a stage in our backyard for Casey
to basically, you know, throw a off off off Broadway
kind of production of that is I think they put
they put their investments where they felt they should go.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I feel like, and is it is it only the
two of you guys?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, so just childhood, growing up, especially four years apart,
you know, the sibling relationships starting off with that, I
mean it was was there was there one only because
you were so far apart.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We definitely did.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
We fought a lot, but we had a good relationship.
I feel like our parents were such humongous characters, like
larger than life personalities.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They were both wait to get into that because the
Democrat Republican, Like that's just so interesting anyway, keep going.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Sorry, They're just huge personalities. So I feel like they
took they occupied.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
A lot out of the air. And then I did,
of course.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
And then Fletcher and it was like Italian, a lot
of yelling, a lot of very funny fun people, but
it was louder a lot. And then Fletcher and I
have also had a constant running like who does our
dad love more? And that's a topic. I don't know
if you all, if I spent.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Any time on yeah grows, my parents love all of
them more. So it's fine. Yeah, I mean love is
not the word, but definitely light towards.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Look, I'm a really personable, you know person that I
walk into a room and it fucking lights up. What
do you want me to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You talk about it, So who do you think, like
if you really were to throw a like, who would
dad shoes? Well?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I mean, I think the interesting thing here is we
both believe that dad loves the other one more. It's
an opposite debate and we and we bring evidence to
try to support each of our own theories here.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so something's going on. Dad needs to talk about it.
It's like he's going to reveal something that has never
been revealed. Who's he going to call?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think he's gonna call me.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think he's going to call everyone in town that day.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, everyone that he can get his hands text two
thousands with.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The Governor of Virginia on there.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean, are you guys at you're Italian? Is it?
Both of your mom was Italian? Yeah? Your mind? And
they're not still together.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
She my dad is remarried to with stepmom and that
they were living together until she passed away, Like god,
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Fifteen?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So were you How old were you when she passed?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I was like twenty four, I think, fudge? Were you?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
And we were both I was a senior year of college.
You were four years out?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, and we were about to go on a family
vacation the next day, and we just got a callege
she had a heart attack in midle of the night.
Such a freak kind of thing because she was fifty four.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was really get crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm sorry that is so that's so crazy. I know
that that's a was she and it was just out
of nowhere. Yes, did they find out anything about her
heart or.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
You know, yeah, yeah, some hearsay, but in general, I
mean it was kind of just a bad, bad luck
deal yea. And she was great. We tend not to
debate who she loved more. That feels more painful, so
we just put it all on Paul Wilson at this point.
But she was a character as well. Yeah, Casey gets
(19:41):
a lot of her edge from her mom.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What did your parents do?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
My dad made political commercials for Republicans, like those ads
that are like John Roberts that we all know that
we all love those beautiful ads. And then our mom
was like actually a female rights advocate and ad activist,
and she ran the national Women's political Caucus to get
women elected across up and down the ticket.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So she was very liberal and working in that kind
of way. And our dad was. He was also speech writer,
and you know, they covered they ran the gamut. Although
our dad, I do have to say.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It's socially extremely liberal, oh he is, yes, yes, yeah,
And I think at this point as a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And this was this was the Republican Party in the
eighties nineties, you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Know, assuming that they dealt with it very civil civilly
right like they were. Or was there contention in the
household political contention?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
There was just contention.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Really, yeah, it has nothing to do with politics. They
just hated each other.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I think I think there was a There are many
stories of high drama with keys getting thrown through windows
or laptops ending up in dumpsters.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Like a chair broken over someone, but then the laughs
came pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, I would say was a combination of these like
very intense moments where we have you know, intense stories,
and Casey and I were often the ones kind of
putting the piece together or saving face in some ways.
But also everyone thought of our family and our parents
as these hilarious characters that you wanted to be, like Oliver,
just lighting up rooms as you come in.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
But ye one on like Kate, Yeah, she just had
that ability.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, that's special something it would be nice.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Would I just darkened? I seemed to darken rooms dark
and gloomy?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Our parents are both very funny, and boy, humor can
get you so far, I think because they were big personalities,
but mainly just so funny and fun and strange.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And you know, they in our town. Like one time
our dog ran.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Away, and then ten years later a dog came up
on the porch that resembled our dog, and my parents
were convinced it was their dog.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Now this, now, this would make the dog. Like eighteen nineteen,
we get the dog all at shots.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
They posed for the cover of the like Alexandria Washington
d C magazine, and then we find out later it
was a four year old dog.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It wasn't our dog at all, who.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Had been hit by a car. And that's why I
was limping.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's they did.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Were just very strange, but they were kind of magical thinkers.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You might just didn't The dog didn't seem to respond
to its name, so the signs were there from the start.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
But but my mom was like, because he doesn't remember it,
it's been so long, but he always comes home.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Were they the kind of parents that like like really
like were they more creative and you know easy like
more like a kind of easy going, creative, sync outside
of the box type of parents. There were as a
you know, you know, you go to school, you do
your homework.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There's like a really more creative.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It was very like ketchesketch can of like we love
the movie movies and we used to go to the movies. Remember,
on like a Sunday night, our dad would open the
paper like, let's go and go see a double feature
was like nine at night. Just obsessed with the movies
and really funny. They were very creative, but out there.
You know, our dad, especially after and I've written about
this a bunch, but especially after our mom died, our dad,
(23:18):
you know, he had a period of readjustment.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
He got a perm and he did some things.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Hard to see that too, you know, and that we
had to live through that deal questions about that perm you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Mean the perm is essentially was his midlife crisis. Like
a Republican with a perm does this sounds every day?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Well, he found a twenty dollars bill this is true,
on the street and he brought it into the barber
and he said, I want to look like Andrew Jackson.
You just like the look, like the way I might
bring your picture Kate, you know my stylists and say like,
give me the Kate Hudson. He said, give me the
Jackson and it was like a flowy, large barreled perm.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, Dad's a that's an amaze.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Is in choice? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I respected it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So I kind of want to understand that they probably
took you out and put you in private school because
you did you were actually like, you know, well no, yeah,
I mean just had been like when you're when you
have a gifted, if you really had like, you know,
a tendency towards math, and you were gifted in maths.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I just I think that I think they're really they
wanted us to both be super successful at something. I
think there was a dry it wasn't just like do whatever.
I think they both feel like you're part of part
of life is to get really good at something, be
passionate about something. And I think whenever they felt there
was a direction to push in that they would push,
but or at least enable.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But right, it's like you you you could sit at
a desk and you could solve a problem, and that's
where you shined, whereas Casey was just on stages, tap dancing, writings. Yeah,
I mean our.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Mom was very passionate. So my friend's nicknamed her Kathie.
I'll do anything for my daughter Wilson, which isn't I
guess a great nickname. But she was very passionate promoter
of us both.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's a good nick It was just long.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's long. It doesn't roll off.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
There's commas in there.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Did you find that when when Fletcher, when Casey was younger,
that like were like, was she when you said dad
built her stage and like, could you tell that like
she performing was going to be what she did?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
A good question. I think it was clear. It's clear
that she loved it, and I think, uh no, it
was I think early on it was musical theater. It
wasn't comedy. I actually think it was when I clicked
that my sister is really good. And this is when
you got more into comedy. I'm not saying you weren't
a good actress. It's just like those productions or.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You know you went to n Yu and you were
kind of doing drama, right.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yes, yes I was, and then people were they would
laugh during things.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I would do that I thought, were that's a sign.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You're always trying. You're always trying to get a laugh. Now,
I still feel when you do dramatic roles, now that
you've gotten the comedy like out of when you go
back to more dramatic roles, that's my favorite thing to
watch for you.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Now, look, I'm not carrying these dramas. I'll be given
a few lines.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I have something to see about this. I feel like
comedy's harder. Is is the wrong word. It's actually a
much more difficult gift, like a gift. It because because
part of it's a gift, and then the other part
is is I believe that the great comedian and people
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who have great comedic timing are actually incredibly intelligent actors
because you kind of have to walk this line and
thank you so much, but it is, you know, and
then I and I think usually what happens is that
people that lend towards comedy when they get older, they
start to get more into their dramatic roles, and that
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actually usually comes probably a little bit easier than the comedy,
or they find at least for me, it's like it's
a little bit it's a little bit more. It doesn't
take as much energy like you know, as as when
you're trying to do something comedic.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yes, yes, no, but totally agree.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But people who have comedic timing, it's like it's like
something that you're given, or when you don't.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Have it, it's hard to get people to laugh at
a comedy club in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, when you've just gone up one time. I kept
hearing some of the other nights you should have hurt.
Let's get on a camera.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
There's there's some footage roll the tape.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
We gotta put we gotta give fletch for five minutes
at the comedy story. Yeah, it's got it. That is
me Oliver.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I was just curious to ask the question from before,
what is it like for you to watch Kate, because
I I it's been a developing difficulty of like watching
my sister and giving feedback and I think we've gotten
to a good place on that or not giving feedback,
but you know how to. But it's always been very
hard for me to watch Casey. Actually, I'm curious to
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hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Why has it been hard?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Is that why you don't watch any of my stuff?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Nervous? You're nervous.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I watch, I watch, I'm very nervous for you. I
like S and L was the pinnacle of this where
like it's live and like I'd be sitting there with
my friends and someone be like, ohn't funny, like about
my sister a lot, you know, And it's so it
comes from a place of like really thinking like she'd
be better in this other role, like knowing that you're
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very talented, but wondering what.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
KA sounds when you but when.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You, I don't know, I'm just curious. It is very
hard for.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It sounds like you're an EmPATH. It sounds like more
like you're more sensitive to the criticism than even Casey
might be. But I think people who are like, we know,
we're going to get criticized all you can't, you know
what I mean? No matter what, some people are going
to love you, some people are going to hate hate it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, I don't. I don't get I don't. I never
got nervous with Kate. It was exciting, Honestly. I was
just actually talking about this yesterday that I think Kate
right now is in this really cool place of sort
of reclaiming her extreme talent as an actor. And you know,
she's been focused on her businesses and doing her thing
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when you know what she's great at. But you know, look,
she's an amazing actor. But I's sort of moved away
from that a little bit, and I think now it
feels like there's this momentum into her sort of later
years and probably going to do really cool shit. That's
what I That's what I That's what I'm feeling. You
just got her music and her album, she's got all
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the other stuff. But in the last couple roles, it's like, Okay,
now we're moving into sort of the back nine of
your acting career.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I only I love you so much, that's what I do. No,
I want you to direct a movie. I can't. I
have this movie I want you to direct, and I'm
going to I want to do in it.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That would be so great if you directed your sister.
I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Oh, it's going to be so good Postal, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I want to say something about your performing, Kate. It's
so hard.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
You make it look so easy that it's almost deceptive
because it's so hard to do what you can do,
which is.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
To light up the screen and make it look fun
and easy, and that is so difficult. So I always
have to I just have to tell.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You that it's okay. I'm going to take this all
in that it makes me feel.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
God, it was one more thing. I was at your house.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
We were working on Bribe Wars when I got the
phone call that I got on SNL.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I don't if you remember that. I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh my god, are you kidding? No?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I said, it's so weird. Lauren Michaels called me.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I auditioned like eight months ago, and you were like, oh,
he's going to tell you got on the show.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm like, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I haven't heard one thing in eight months. And you
were like, he is.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Why that was so exciting?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How is that audition? By the way, it was so.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Terrifying, truly terrifying, truly just like a dark room. You
can't see them sitting at the table, and they said
the good thing. They were like, they will not laugh, so.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, Lauren won't laugh, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
And then you wait alone for like four hours and
you don't know when they're going to come in, and
then they come in and you do it and it's
just it's just very odd.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
But so what what do you have to do? Do
you have to write your own sketch? Sketch, you have
to write your own stuff?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What do you remember what you did?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I do now. I just want you everyone to know
it's a different time.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Okay, we skip over. Did you do something that was
like the cancible of offense?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I had done a bit for a while in LA
and I did it in the audition and then I
did it with Ashton Kutcher on the show, which is
that I was a stripper who had unfortunately become quadriplegic,
and but I still wanted to strip, and I was
the positive person, and so I my handler would put
me on people and give I could still do my
lap dances and my poll work when I had to
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be aided, and but it wasn't really lovely, you know,
life of firm and character, and so I did that
and some other things. But in hindsight, you know, we
never want anyone to think I'm making fun of anyone.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Paul Wilson and I were sitting was an upright Citizens
Brigade where you did the same skit live, and I'm
sitting with my dad. We didn't know this, and she's
doing the quadriplegic stripper and her boob pops out and
she can't fix it because she's ablegic, and my dad
and I are standing like seven feet from her boob
and she's moving around a lot because the car behinders
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like that was like that is stained in my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
My god.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So you didn't fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You just can't because I just committed. And that's the
kind of actor I am.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I am as a performer, and I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think too committed to that character.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I would have loved my acting partner had noticed that
and helped me out.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Casey going going back, actually just went we jumped ahead.
But as far as as far as comedy goes, as
far as understanding what she wanted to do, you know,
I know that seemed to happen after and even though
you were funny because you wanted to be in the art,
you wanted to be an actor, but you were in
sort of the dramatic world. Is that fair to say?
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And then what happened to where it was like, fuck,
you know what, I should just do funny?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, I met June Dianne Rayphiel, who's my best friend
when we were seventeen and a lot of people know
her from Grace and Frankie.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
She played Brianna, the older sister.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And at the time we just decided to write a
two women sketch show together and so we did it
and it was so much fun. We loved it, and
then we went and did it at Asked the Aspens
HBO Comedy Festival, and that's where this woman, Heidi Sherman
Gray from New Regency, as Kate mentioned, said Hey, there's
this script Brideways.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We think you guys should adapt it.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
So oddly it was like very much involved you, Kate,
because in the course of like two years, suddenly but
we cried when we found out because we wanted to
be actors. So in our heads we were like going
to be like I was like, I'm Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
She's Kate husband.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And then this agent was like, we'd love to sign
you guys, and we're so excited and they're like as writers.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
And we went to the bathroom and cried and I
was like, they think we're ugly. It was so sad.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
But then when we wrapped our heads around that, we're like, oh,
writing is incredible and and that's and then that was
our first job we ever got was to write Bride Wars.
Wow as actors, writers, as anything. It was our first
job ever.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Wow, I'm pretty cooler was a character name that Chris
Pratt played fun that's right, Yeah, that's right, christ Be.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
He doesn't get any glory, but yet there he is.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And I do I do love how that Bride War
is just like there's so there's it just it holds up.
I can't even believe that, Like girls that are young now,
like is the next generation become like hook?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I's so great. The only movie that plays a dry
bar dry bar has gotten that movie life.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Why don't you guys adapt it for Broadway?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wow? Adapted? That is a good idea.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
It is a good idea with amazing music.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Broadway is not a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Broadway with amazing music. And I mean it's it's it's
it's the form, really good idea. It's actually it's Broadway
for sure, for real. You see your fucking talented I am.
Generally it's like no one gets it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You're an idea.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's incredible, Big, big time.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Big Wars on Broadway Wars. The way the literation works,
I mean Jesus Casey, this is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, we're.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We're killing, resurrecting.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Not people light up the room when she walks in.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
My storm cloud.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I just take a producing credit and to check that's good.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Okay, okay, yeah for you, but by the great idea,
I love this idea.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah you guys, get on it?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Uh when you so? So, how was your experience on SNL?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was it was tough.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I'll be honest, I'm so grateful that I got on,
But it was just I went in by myself, so
I didn't come in with like here are the performers
I went or the writers. I went in right after
the first actor strike, and it just felt like you're
like knocking on doors and like at someone's house, almost
like no one's introduced you.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're at a party and you're like wandering around and
the host like hasn't kind of introduced you. Is what
I like a show.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
But it was also incredible and fun and weird, and
it was one of those things where it was like
you get the dream job of your life, and then
when I was only on for two years, then suddenly
you're like, who am if I didn't totally land the
dream job that I had. It's a mind fuck of
like I was so devastated when I was let go,
but then it led to like all the other right things.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
So it was one of those that had like every
high and low within it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
How how how were you let go? How does that?
What does that look like? What happened?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
It's so it's it's actually the absence of something happening.
Where my manager called them was like, so you know
they send.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The facts when you're brought back.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
And she said she was watching the fax machine and
that four faxes came through for her for other clients.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
And then she's like, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Checking the paper like is it Is it a paper issue?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And it was not.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It wasn't a kind of a technical issue.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
No one called you. It's just they don't really call you.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
They just sort of it's like if you're not called
kind of a thing, so you have to be like
just double checking here, I just want to pick a
quick that's pretty intent double check it isn't. But you
know what it's it's such a great show and I
watch it every week. Damn it if I don't watch
it every single week.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, it's also like it's also like our business is
fucking harsh. Yeah, it's just like if you don't realize
that going into it, you will never survive any of it.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, you guys must have seen that up close, like
growing up in it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
And I mean, you're actually the most talented mother that's
walked the earth.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But did you feel that going into it, how harsh
it was?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
It's harsh. Yeah, no, But but yes, I know how
hard my mom has had to fight for things that
she wanted. I watched her, like really fight hard all
the time, no matter how big of a movie star,
if she was in her element or in her prime,
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if she wasn't. It's like constantly fighting for the things.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Especially as a female. Obviously she she was. She was
doing this in a time where it was definitely not
you know the norm where you know, a female is
having produces, producing deals at studios, and you know, it
was it was it was a boys it was a
boys club. She had to really fight for her ship.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
But I just think that it hasn't changed all that much,
even though the dialogue has changed. You talk about men,
women whatever. But but but most importantly, like whether you're
male or female, it's so hardcore. I mean, you know
from the beginning, from the auditioning process, and it's it's
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like you're really putting. If you decide to be a performer,
you're just like you might as well love to jump
in like the fire. Yeah, I like to jump in
the fire.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's what I like.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Did I talk about that with his job too, only
because he's an entrepreneur. It's like there's not that many
jobs where you're constantly like auditioning for a new job
every second, Like you're just constantly put having to put
yourself back out there to try to get another job,
even if that's not like an audition.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's just there's just so much rejection.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
And you face that too with like raising money in
your business as well.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
I do think the one thing you all have that
a lot of other folks don't is this sense of completion.
Every once in a while, you get to do a
project and like finish it, right. A lot of people's
lives are like it's working towards the next goal and
then what's the next thing? But it all builds. But
you have these sort of like nice tidy starts and finishes,
and then you can kind of relax and not worry
about that, So there's trade off, But you can't imagine.
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In my world, I learn just not faccing them. I
mean we don't use fax machines either, by the way.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, I love that observation. You're so like that's so
interesting because you're right, it's like we get these little
creative babies that we actually get to like see through.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
True.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, although I will say I wonder, like I guess
the intrigue is probably what I you know, and and
the entrepreneurial thinking versus actual execution of it is two
different things. Like I think there's a lot of people
who are like entrepreneurial and the way they think, but
really it's about how you follow through with your idea
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and whether they you know, have real success or not.
And like I wonder if for you, for instance, like
what is the endgame for you? And like you hear
you have this idea, you're following it through.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I can answer that question it's a five billion dollar exit.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But like really, like you know, because if to be
an entrepreneur means there's multiple ideas, there's multiple things that
you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, I've heard that every entrepreneur has it's motivated by
either fame, power or money, and it's one or the
other and you're just gonna you might lie, but there's
one of those, and for me, I actually think it's fame,
so I'll be honest. Like I like the idea, like.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I don't think to admit.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I appreciate it, right, But.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I like the idea of building something that's really cool.
And those listening might not feel like, you know, solar
powered smart bathrooms are cool, but I think I feel
really strong about the mission. And this is my second
and you do these things for ten, fifteen, twenty years.
But I like the idea of being known as the
person who, like whatever created the uber of bathrooms or whatever.
I kind of like that idea, and then it sparking
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other conversations.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Ooh, uber of bathrooms, like maybe bathrooms on wheels.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Sure it's in the patent, it's there, the bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
That's what I'm going to say next time when someone
asked me to tell them what it is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I love that because what is drawing you? Like what
an interest like same power, money, money, and yours is valid.
It's like validation.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
It is valid, and I don't know if it ties
into the same I don't know thread of what drives
Casey or what, but I kind of like them. Yeah,
I think we both.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Require well probably unconsciously too. Your sister's famous and you're not.
So this is a way sort of.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Plainly, I wouldn't be that.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I don't know if I end, and then.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I can relate that I can relate to because I'm essentially,
you know, a bit of the black sheep as far
as career goes. You know, everyone's better than me and
has done more than me. It has done more.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Success than it's like when it's like when Tony Robbins
said said to Oliver, yeah you love that trophy.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Keep you keep holding on to that trophy. Well, here's
the issue. I'm a very self deprecating person, of course,
which is the.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Number one quality my brother and I find in any human.
I just want to point that out. Yes, it's the
number one quality there.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
But here's here's the fear of that. You know, I
do believe that when you say something enough it starts
to sink in and you actually then believe it. So
my self deprecation, even though you know a conscious thing,
I'm like, well, it's just a joke, but I say,
it's so much that it becomes part of my narrative.
You know, the fact that I'm aware of that, that's
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another level that I can't. I don't know if I
can unpack.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
But like there's I can. I'll unpack it for you.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
It's interesting though, you know, we can be funny and
be self deprecating, but essentially that is that is fucking
seeping into how we feel about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I want to get back to this power money fame,
because Fletcher, I think, like what you just said is
actually a driving for most people in the things that
they do. Like what like what is the unless you're like,
unless you even even in charitable organizations, right, even in
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charitable work. Let's say, what drives you personally to want
to do the thing that you do? And you know
what I can answer mine, it's money. Because I like
to play. I want to play, I want to travel,
I want to like I love clothes, like I love
like lamps, and like I'm like, so I'm like so
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eighty d that I just want to like do different things.
I don't want to invest. Yeah, so like money drives me.
I'm like, oh, if I make this money, then I can,
you know, go to India and buy a bunch of textiles.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Textiles have always driven you.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But I think that that's that's something that we think
is like something we shouldn't put out and like, oh, well,
we shouldn't say that, But I think it's actually really
important to like Casey, what drives you?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
God, I was thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
I'm like, but you both have reframed money and fame
so nicely. I'm like, I don't know how I'm going
to reframe power is power. It's a tough one to reframe.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Right, well, power is more as broad money bom fame,
boom power. I mean, how do you I.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Don't even know. I'm probably just like other people. Okay,
I think control.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
I think I've got older sister kind of like wanting
to control things too much. So it's mine's probably not
as nicely realized as both of yours.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I like that. But but power is also like to
have the power. It's also like a self choice, Like.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Choice is getting to do other things, getting to work
with other people.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Like I love that choice of like or and.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
I'm not trying to say, oh I'm so altruistic, but
I do love helping people and just feels like with
power comes a lot and I think that is also
something about being the older sister that in control.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Again, it's I love this, Oliver. What about you?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Oh guess fame power what? No, I'm already like super
famous money.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
You want textiles too.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
That's like two siblings with the same like entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Love lane, which we do.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
We just want to like, we just want some money
to like go fish. I'll fish with you. I'll wear
really cute outfits and fish just to go do the
things that I want to do, just you're doing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
But I wanted to say something that, you know, going
back to you know what Fletcher said about how we
have a sort of beginning middle of an end and
we have a little creative nugget. But I will so
I will say that most creative, most artists are completely
afraid of where their next job is coming from, to
the point where that that one ends and then you're like,
oh fuck, what happens next? You know, And we live
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in a very unstable business where you could make a
ton of money and then boom you're making zero dollars.
And that's how I've lived my life, that crazy instability
where I'm going to show for seven years and I
afford a lifestyle that bang, that ship is gone. I'm like, Okay,
what the fuck now?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
You know, I think you're right, Oliver. And what motivates
me probably is on some level because of Casey and
you know, wanting to be in that conversation. I think,
not not like in a begrudging way or jealous way,
but I think it does motivate me in like a
positive way.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
You know what. That's the most That's the best thing
I've heard from a sibling on this fucking podcast, because
everyoneb you can't know there's an admission of wanting to
sort of reach a status that your sibling has because
you want you there's a part of you that wants that.
A lot of their siblings we talk to are like, no,
I'm good, I don't want this or I have no
(49:28):
this for bah blah. But it's like, yeah, Casey's famous,
Like I kind of want to be fucking famous too.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
But I'll say this Butcher is so smart. I do
think this Buncher that my whole life. I'm like, I'm dumb.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
I want to have some of like what you have.
It's an interesting thing. We both have our labels of.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Like I can't do this and you can't do that,
but I you're such a brilliant guy.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I wish Kate had something like that for me. I'm
not sure what it is, honestly.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, that leads us. Let's do this since you do
have to go, Fletcher, Let's do our last question, which
is it's a two part question, like one thing that
you admire about your sibling that is something you would
love to emulate, and then the second part of it
is is what is the one thing that you wish
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you could alleviate from them that you think would make
their life.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Just a little bit better. It's a segment called alleviate
and emulate.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Should I go first?
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yeah, emulate. Casey is the best person in the world
that I know at just striving to get better growth personal.
She's always got this the next thing she's trying to do,
and like looking at the eighteen year old version of
Casey versus now, is like a totally different person, Like
the bones of the foundation is the same, but she
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is relentlessly trying to become a better person, either for
herself or for other people or kids or whatever. So
that's I think we could all emulate that. I think
who alleviate? I think Casey and I share this one.
I wish I could alleviate in myself a little too,
which is the people pleaser part. I think we're both
like very and it comes from our parents, but very
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focused on making sure people like us. And I think
there are certain times that can inhibit growth or inhibit happiness,
and I guess I wish I could alleviate ten percent
of that for you.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I relate, I relate to that.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
That's so nice.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
I totally agree, Fletcher, and we both have the people pleaser.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
I actually think you've.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Done a lot better kind of forging your path and
not caring as much, and in.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
A good way, not in the way that you don't
care about other people. I don't mean that.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
I mean because even that very thoughts may being you
nervous because we're both so like we want people to
But I also would like to alleviate.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
I want more childcare for you, and that's just fuck.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
That would be che bunch of four kids more childcare.
But my compliment to you, Fletcher is no, people want
to be around you so much. Butcher for like his
to pick his groomsmen he did a weekend long competition
for his twenty guy friends and the ones that one
got to be the groomsman at his wedding.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
And you make everything that drives people crazy and it's strange,
but it's so fun. You really make fun.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
So everyone wedding any explain why they were able to
do it or not?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
That is so funny. I don't want to know more
about the offline. I guess we'll get.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
May the best man win.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
You got a roll, but one more coach. And while
your sisters here are like, do you have more money
than she does?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Well, okay, Casey is currently an investor and Throne has
saved me from the brink of bankruptcy a couple of times,
so now he does. We're in this together. No, I don't.
I am.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I will say I actually invested very little. Thrown is
doing very well. It's your last business, you know.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
Still still going Thanks for that investment as well. Kidding,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know they can't help your winners.
But know I think.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
I'm but you plan on being a big time.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeahs As we've established, it's not
the primary motivator. But if right, if I'm famous, I'll
have to be wealthy with this one, hopefully. But that
is not that is not the primary goal, trying to
help people.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Okay, and then I know you gotta leave it. One
more thing. I have to say this, Fletcher, you're fucking
funny generally, like the timing, the wits. I honestly think
he's I don't know about the five minutes, you know,
but he's but he's flet's just funny. He's funny.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Thanks Oliver, appreciate Butcher.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Thank you for joinings. Casey, what you stay with us
so we can talk.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
About okay, Thanks Kate, thanks so much, Thanks Oliver, this was.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
So really fun Thank congrats on your business. Honestly, real quick,
we're gonna let you go. I want to talk about
few things. Number one is Happy Endings. I think that
was such a great show by the way, process of that.
(54:07):
And then you met your man on that show, right,
he created that show. Yeah, so you were sleeping, you
were sleeping with him, that's right. First season.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
I tried first.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Season desperately, but he was like with dating every hostess
in West Hollywood, so I so life knocked him down.
A little, you know, and I sort of got in
there through humor.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Is that sort of true?
Speaker 5 (54:36):
Million We would go to dinner in West Hollywood and
someone would take us to the table like here you go,
like put down the menus, like mad I was like,
did you.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Sleep with her? He's like I did. She's so nice
and I don't know what happened. And he had his time,
but now it's a wonderful husband.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, oh great. And then that show? Did you audition
for that show?
Speaker 1 (54:57):
I auditioned for.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
It and randomly it was like got on it and
a couple of months after snel and then it's like
a weird show. It's like not a lot of people
have seen it, but people who have really are obsessed
with it. And it's so nice.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Well, it's really good. It's good. It's just good. You know,
it's hard these days finding a good half hour. It
is hard network comedy.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
I'll say, you know, I did my first half hour
comedy comes out in February, but it's.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You did with them?
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Mindy Kaling wrote it? Yeah, so did you like it?
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I loved I had the best time. I can't wait
to promote it because I just love everybody so much.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
And Max, isn't it too right? Max, isn't it the best?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
He's the best, and he plays my fiance nice and honestly,
it was just one of those things I left every
day like it was just the best.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's so nice.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
So I really hope we get to do another season
or two. I hope it's because I haven't had that
much fun.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Especially when you're older. It's like I pray to have fun,
Like life is short, Let's just have a laugh please.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh and I'm just working with great comedians and laughing
all day is just there's just nothing like it. It's
just like healing.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Yeah, you know, Just so you know, The Great British
Bakeoff is like my favorite show of all time. I
just finished this last I just finished season eleven. I
watched every single season with my daughter Rio Rio and
I are like obsessed with the show. When I sensed,
I mean like for real, like I've seen every single
episode and I just finished this season. So this is exciting. Shit,
(56:38):
I'm so exciting yet.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
No, and for me, this is the third season of
the American One.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
But it's a stame with it's judges and it's in
the tent and it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
This one's on Roku, but I love I had not.
I've seen the show a little bit, but now I'm
just just like you. I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
It's okay, that's what you did. Did you do this
in the summer?
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:58):
I did it with summer yet Okay, yeah they asked me.
Did they keep asking me to do it?
Speaker 5 (57:02):
And I's so fun, I will say, it's so quick
and you come in and out and it is so
much fun.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Is it all celebrity driven?
Speaker 5 (57:13):
We did three celebrity ones, one Christmas one, and then
we did a real season, a full season with American bakers,
like the you know, normal show format.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
It exactly the same way, back to the.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Same Paul and prou.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
I've ever seen that. I haven't seen the American one.
Speaker 5 (57:27):
It's on Roku. So we're in our thirties. It's about
to come out. But it's so And Zach Cherry is
my co host. He's on Severance that show, and he's
so funy it's great.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
But Casey, do you bake?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
No? I don't know. You couickle out right?
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah you should do.
Speaker 5 (57:42):
You would also win by the way you would get
a handshake. He was having to like give handshakes to
like comedians, and in his brain he's like, oh my god.
He didn't have to give anything, but he did give
one out because someone blew us away. But the comedians wouldn't.
They are coming in with the most.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Do you eat the bakes every time?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
So the host you know, they don't eat ever.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
I just came in and I said, I don't want
to change the format, but why can't I have something?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (58:05):
So I work around with me. I try them all
I do.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
I'm like the real right, Yeah, And is the American
one out right? That the American one's already been out?
Or is that coming?
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah? The American season two is out. Our third one's
about to come up.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
But right now the Christmas specials out and it's a
holiday like celebrity special.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Fun it's really I'm going to I'm going to watch
it and then bitch Sash ten years ten years of
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
It's a podcast.
Speaker 5 (58:30):
It's about the housewives, and you know, I know people
love them or they don't, you know, but I'm stand
in my truth and we have comedians and we just
talk about these glorious monsters.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
Amazing, how fun?
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeh, I was on Andy late you know, yeah, watching
late night. Yeah, I watch to watch up. I wasn't,
and I said, where do I start? He's like episode one, Yeah,
I want.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
I want to hear it because they're like, but there's
twenty nine. It's like right, And I was like, maybe
I need to just start. I've never I've literally maybe
seen a half of an hour.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I'm like you, I've never seen. I've never seen one.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Really start with Beverly. I think you would get a
kick on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like we need to
be in on this.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
It's like too long, I'll start. I love reality TV.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Did your wife watch at all?
Speaker 3 (59:19):
No? Okay, she does not like she does not like
reality television. I'm always watching like below Deck. She's like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (59:29):
Oh my god, Oliver, if you're going on the high
Seas with those you will love?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Oh yeah, I love below Deck.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Oh wow? Do you watch Summerhouse, either of you.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
I've seen it. I've seen it a little nutty.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
So fun, It's it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Woman, I never watched vander Pump, you know what I like.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
But I'm a house sign.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
My thing is I've read a thousand million things that
I have to do, and then when I go to
watch something, it's I'm so tired.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
You don't want to see women screaming each other and
that's not what you want.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
It's like, do I read my book or do I watch?
If I get into the house lies, I think I'll
never read Watch Over and.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Husband Who's pretending to have cancer?
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Right right? Exactly the problem is I go to watch
something really good. In my mind, I'm like, I'm going
to watch something that is like a classic and it's
actually going to fulfill me with some sort of creative
and then the platform always has like like, I guess
I'll watch Richard Ramirez tapes or you know, or some
weird fucking show. I guess I'll watch the some cult documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
That that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
John Jonestown is just come on, it's brand new. Watch
the one is good? Is it good?
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Johnstown?
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's wild?
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
All the yoga ones.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
So I'm like when I start listening and you're watching it, going,
I know this is sick, and then I'm like, I
like what that leaders?
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I'm always like I'm about to join it. I'm watching after.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I know it's like, did you see what was called
Mother God or.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Dude with the christ lights and the.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
The opening of that doc where they come in on
her blue face with.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
The dude's mother god mother.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Dude. She is My kids call me mother silver. She
thinks that colonial silver. She turns blue. I mean, it's
not like, yeah, look at your sweater.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
That's oh my god, Casey, it was so good to
see you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
I'm so glad to see you. Thank you guys so
much for having me. I have my brother truly all
just said he was so touched to be included.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So thank you. Bye, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Bye. Thank you. Nice to meet you too. I think
I impressed them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
That was the best. I love I love Casey, I
love June. They're so great.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
It's kind of cool. She makes she makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, she's so funny, fun she's.
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Also so sweets on SNL.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Although short, it was memorable, like she stands out to me,
which is I don't know why they let her go,
but it's all for the best. And he's great. He's funny.
You can tell. He's witty, he's funny, he's sharp, like
I know, and he does toilets and she does comedy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
I mean, it's so great. Solar powered toilets is. Yeah,
you can't write it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
You can't write it. No, you can't. You can't write it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I like, steal their whole life in the new show
with these like, you know, opposing political parents, toilets and comedy.
I mean, you can't get I love you. I love
you too.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
No,
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling raivalry.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You look depressed. I'm not. I'm not depressed. But what
you're looking at is just are you annoyed? No, what
you're looking at is me. I just can't kick this
goddamn cold.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Oh you're annoyed at the cold.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It's just like it's so frustrate.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Have you done any uh? Have you done a watching
McCall it.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I did a watch McCall it. I was amazing.
I mean honestly, we should have the founder of watching
McCall it on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Because it's like, I just think, have you done an uh?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was a great candy bar still is.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh the watch you McCall its.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I haven't done much. Here's the thing I had to.
I think I relapsed, you know, because I wasn't feeling
great all week sort of like, and then Friday I
was like, oh, I feel pretty good, and then I
drank whiskey.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
We'll talk about this with the Wilsons.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Fletcher and yeah, yeah, go ahead, because you know Casey well,
Casey yes, So Casey and June we're the writers on
bride Wars and are they here?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And so yes, my brother, Hi, everybody pleasure.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So I was just telling Oliver about how we know
each other, which is Casey and June wrote Bride Wars,
which was originally a very rated R bride Wars that
was at Miramax and then mirra Max fell apart and
(02:25):
Fox picked it up New Regency and then slowly but
surely it became a PG version of what Casey and
June initially wrote.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
So basically, sure, you don't want to go through more
of like how it is distributed, kind of behind the curtains,
kind of behind the thing, like how many theaters it
was in case I can know no, because this is important.
Fox did a copro with Warners.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But this is important because we were ahead of the
curve when it came to like a very you know,
rated our female comedy and they didn't want to do it.
But when Judd Apatow wanted to make Bridesmaids, they were
very happy to be a little bit more what we
were trying to initially do. To begin with, we were
(03:15):
ahead of the curve, we were out of the curveline.
And then and then we kind of got a little
smushed by them wanting it to be PG. But Casey
and June wrote the most. I wish I sometimes wish
we could put out that original script because it was
so deeply funny.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Well, you hired two people that had not only never
like written anything, we like, never been written down our
sketch show. You were like, and we're pitching you and
you're living on like a forty five minute pitch. We
didn't know it should be shorter. And you were so
friendly to us, and oh but we love you for
hiring us.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Thank you well, it was the best welcome to sibling revelry.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes, thanks for having us.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Yeah, thanks for having and thanks for having my brother.
He certainly never had his moment in the sun.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Before, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In his own career, in his own career.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I'm four years younger, so there's you know, a lot
of time still.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Where are you, Fletcher, Are you in Los Angeles?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I'm not. I'm in the Philadelphia area now. A lot
of time in San Francisco and back back East's.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Not a performer guy, some society.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I mean, you really keep hammering that. I mean I
feel like I want to I want to establish that
I chose not to be a performer. I mean, you
could have anyone. Anyone can just be an actor, right,
just got the time?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But but Fletcher, what do you do to contribute to
the society?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
This is a good question.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You want to tell them what you do?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I kind of want to hear Casey Pitchett first.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
But my brother has a toilet business.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, do you sell totos?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So I wish it was totos? No, why don't you
tell Fletcher they're public?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I got excited because I was like, maybe I'm going
to get a discount on a toto.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I can see what I can do. But no, that's
that's sort of the pitch my five year old still
has that my dad makes toilets. What we are trying
to do to contribute to society or I love the
framing is we are trying to solve the public bathroom
infrastructure problem. So we are we are selling these really
nice solar powered bathrooms to cities to put all over
(05:24):
the place, so that there's always a really nice bathroom,
whether you're a parrot with children, someone who's maybe housing disadvantaged,
all these different.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
The three of us important work. We're doing the real work, right,
eating those people.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Before they go to the right, right, right right or
exactly or or if we're if we don't do well,
then there's a place for them to throw up.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, it all fits together.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Everyone doing their part here on this.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Wow, that's that's actually really cool. I actually kind of
want to know more about him.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's actually an.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Amazing business, I will say.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
And it's doing incredible and they have them in in
La in MacArthur Park with the city told Butcher if
if the toilets are not burned down, it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Is a success. Yes, and they are still standing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Now, they're they're they're all over La and hopefully more
to come. But yeah, Thrown Thrown is the name of
the company. My wife came up in the name, not me.
You can't take it there, but yeah, yeah, But I
will say from an early age, Casey was pretty clear
to tell me, Fletcher, you're you're not the performer in
the family. Let me take the stage. So I've I've
graciously handed that over and and focused on different different.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Let me, Fletcher, let me ask you a question though,
Were you wanting to be a headliner a front man?
And Casey was like, hey, buzz r, fuck off, this
is my ship.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I mean, there is video footage from our living room
that would like, verily, very clearly point at exactly that.
What'd you say, Fletcher, get off the Stage's the fans line, Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, Fletcher, out of here and get on with it?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah? Yeah, But I will say no, I've liked I
have a deep appreciation for uh movies and comedy, and
I even did Casey, would you call it an embarrassing
phase of my life where I did do some stand
up comedy amiliating nod.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
In San Francisco and He's like, head into my set.
I'm like, get a hold of yourself, get a grip.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I have. I have a cult following of seven friends
who enjoyed my sets. But I did fly my sister
and dad in and had just a bad No. I mean,
I've done this fifteen times, but I did have a
bad night with my sister in the audience, and I
saw her just kind of like just stick to your.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Lane, having her in the audience. Did that make you
feel more nervous? Yes, Oh, give me a bit, Give
me one bit, O give me one I mean sure, give.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Sure, I mean I think I think that you remember
it all right at the it's right at the fingertips.
I'm a short man. You might not be able to
tell here. I'm a five foot five gentlemen. And I
think that the bit was and sorry to other comedians
if this is already out there, but it was about
shopping and how I had found that the that the
(08:18):
twenty nine lengths always seemed to be up high on
the shelf, and I was recruiting other short gentlemen to
you know, help shirp me to rise up and you know,
help deprecating following in my sister's footsteps where her bread
and butter has.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Been Okay, I like that there's something there, something but
you've carried No. No, I'm in because I think you
could do you know, like a where someone steps on
your hands, or you can do shoulder, you know what
I mean. Like there's there's a world to go there
with this bit, like after after we're after we finished
this podcast, let's exchange numbers and work on it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Ally.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm just curious. Did do you feel nervous when I
watch your shows? No, because you don't watch my show.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Do you watch the first one, like the pilots or.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you just not nothing? My family hasn't really watched
the kind of content I do.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Definitely, that's not true. I definitely watched the pilots. My
favorite of Oliver's was Nashville. I watched everything, and then I.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Would definitely watch me. That's true.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You were in it and you were helping.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
This is true, and I loved I watched two episodes
of The Cleaning Lady okay, and he was great. And
I definitely watched Splitting Up Together. What are you talking about?
I watched all the way up to the time when
you were with the girl the New Girl that was
like the first episode, and then held on. Here's the thing, Kate,
(09:57):
I still haven't seen your sex is I don't watch
him say just like that right title. Kate knows how
talented I am. The problem is is that she doesn't
think I'm talented as an actor.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She goes, you need to write and produce and direct.
More so, she's always given me this back handed compliments
of like those stupid you know what you should read, Oliver, Oliver, Oliver,
you're such a good writer. Oliver, you're such a good writer.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You're not such a good writer, You're you're an exceptionally
good writer. You're an exceptionally good writer. You're exceptionally you know. Well,
I think I think you've already shown the great promise
and talent in directing.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I'll win Academy Awards. But just in ten to twenty years,
that's what's going to happen. And but for now, you
can catch me on Netflix with Alicia Silverstone on a
Christmas movie. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So that's not easy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Well, I haven't shot it yet in February, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But this is exactue.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
This is the big ship that Oliver Hudson is doing,
you know what I mean? Like you, Jackman, I'm doing
this on a second.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She's legendary. This is exciting, your exciting. They didn't to
find this out this.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Morning, No, no, no, I've known this. I just don't
tell people my accomplishments. I don't want people. I don't
want my family to get jealous.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Riot you wyots and talks.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'm actually excited. It's it's really sweet and cute and
wholesome and so cute. Yeah, it'll be fun and she's
she's a dream yeah yeah, but but but and then
we'll get into you guys. Leiss just talk about my career.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
This is promoting.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
No no, no, no no, this has nothing to do
with Wait, well, I'm just saying. So Netflix has taken
is doing the Hallmark Christmas thing. And there's these Christmas
shows that are out now. They're all number one, like
they're all number one, but I click on some of
them and it's insane. There's one show called Hot Frosty. Okay,
(12:03):
have you seen this?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Is this when the guys are dancing.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
No, that's the other one with Chad Michael Murray.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I saw that Hot Frosty to you, so all of
a sudden, you watching Chad Michael Murray as like some
like Handyman who is doing full Monty hands Handyman.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And then Hot Frosty was there's a snowman and they
put a scarf around the neck because this girl, Lacy
Shambletta or whatever cannot find a man. And I guess
Hot Frosty turns into this like hot fucking dude with
abs and hair. I'm like, is this what I'm getting
into because I am not hot Frosty. I get ready, Wait,
(12:45):
I've got gray chest hair like Italian chains.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Was that a Hallmark movie?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
This is on Netflix right now. These are the Christmas
movies that are getting put out on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They're pushing them below.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Got nervis. Oh gosh, Well, you know what, I'm a
small town doctor in this, So.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Who strips.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Casey is the right person to rewrite the script.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And then I'll be sending you over.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And then I'll write a small but powerful part for
my brother.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
A moment.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, okay, Casey Fletcher, where did you guys grow up?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Before we get into this? I love the toilet thing.
I just want to say, Fletcher, I'm sort of more
interested in that than Casey's career. I just want to
because I do think that you can expand this, because
you know there's pop up shops and stuff. People do
pop up restaurants or pop up you could do pop
up public toilets.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
We're doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We're doing it, but then they go away. It's like
bank just destroy the ship out of this pun intended
and then we're just going to take them away. Is
that kind of what we're dealing with?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You got to get there, trying to keep them there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And we do both, we do events. I mean, there's
there's a lot to it, but yeah, it's a lot.
I think I think you're gonna love it.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Pop up, by the way, you can have this pop
up potties. Don thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm writing it down, he says you. But he's always
looking for a dollar. Just give him point five percent
and he'll be and you'll never hear where. So where
did you guys grow up?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
We grew up in Alexandria, Virginia, which is like five
minutes from Washington, d c. M.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Our mom's from Jacoma Park.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah. And you know it's so funny. I was just
listening to the Governor of Virginia this morning on the
news talking about how he's making tips.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
There's a lot happening there, guys. And there was a
lot happening in the early eighties and Fletcher.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
And I were running around.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Our parents treated us a bit different. Flecher.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
They funneled money into his private school education and they
left me in public.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It was a it was a double blind experiment and
we're still waiting for the results.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I'm an actor and Blechers and mechanical engineer.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I can't even add.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They said I was thriving socially, so they left me
in the public school.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
That's that's good. I mean, that's proud of that.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know, you wait, how many years apart are you, guys?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Four three four? That's that's actually like interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And you're and you're older or younger who's older? So oh,
so the baby got all the all.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
The I mean I was I was oddly like kind
of ripped out of public school in the middle of
a week in fourth grade. And it was unclear that
this experiment was being We did not consent to this
double blind experiment. But I was kind of thrown into
a different world. And I don't I don't know what
if there was.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Buter was exceptionally like gifted in math. And I think
they thought, let's put our money behind what they built.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But for their credit, to their credit, they built a stage.
My dad built a stage in our backyard for Casey
to basically, you know, throw a off off off Broadway
kind of production of that is I think they put
they put their investments where they felt they should go.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I feel like, and is it is it only the
two of you guys?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, so just childhood, growing up, especially four years apart,
you know, the sibling relationships starting off with that, I
mean it was was there was there one only because
you were so far apart.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
We definitely did.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
We fought a lot, but we had a good relationship.
I feel like our parents were such humongous characters, like
larger than life personalities.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They were both wait to get into that because the
Democrat Republican, Like that's just so interesting anyway, keep going.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Sorry, They're just huge personalities. So I feel like they
took they occupied.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
A lot out of the air. And then I did,
of course.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
And then Fletcher and it was like Italian, a lot
of yelling, a lot of very funny fun people, but
it was louder a lot. And then Fletcher and I
have also had a constant running like who does our
dad love more? And that's a topic. I don't know
if you all, if I spent.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Any time on yeah grows, my parents love all of
them more. So it's fine. Yeah, I mean love is
not the word, but definitely light towards.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Look, I'm a really personable, you know person that I
walk into a room and it fucking lights up. What
do you want me to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You talk about it, So who do you think, like
if you really were to throw a like, who would
dad shoes? Well?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I mean, I think the interesting thing here is we
both believe that dad loves the other one more. It's
an opposite debate and we and we bring evidence to
try to support each of our own theories here.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, so something's going on. Dad needs to talk about it.
It's like he's going to reveal something that has never
been revealed. Who's he going to call?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think he's gonna call me.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I think he's going to call everyone in town that day.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, everyone that he can get his hands text two
thousands with.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The Governor of Virginia on there.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean, are you guys at you're Italian? Is it?
Both of your mom was Italian? Yeah? Your mind? And
they're not still together.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
She my dad is remarried to with stepmom and that
they were living together until she passed away, Like god,
fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Fifteen?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So were you How old were you when she passed?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I was like twenty four, I think, fudge? Were you?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
And we were both I was a senior year of college.
You were four years out?
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, and we were about to go on a family
vacation the next day, and we just got a callege
she had a heart attack in midle of the night.
Such a freak kind of thing because she was fifty four.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It was really get crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm sorry that is so that's so crazy. I know
that that's a was she and it was just out
of nowhere. Yes, did they find out anything about her
heart or.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
You know, yeah, yeah, some hearsay, but in general, I
mean it was kind of just a bad, bad luck
deal yea. And she was great. We tend not to
debate who she loved more. That feels more painful, so
we just put it all on Paul Wilson at this point.
But she was a character as well. Yeah, Casey gets
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a lot of her edge from her mom.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What did your parents do?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
My dad made political commercials for Republicans, like those ads
that are like John Roberts that we all know that
we all love those beautiful ads. And then our mom
was like actually a female rights advocate and ad activist,
and she ran the national Women's political Caucus to get
women elected across up and down the ticket.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So she was very liberal and working in that kind
of way. And our dad was. He was also speech writer,
and you know, they covered they ran the gamut. Although
our dad, I do have to say.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
It's socially extremely liberal, oh he is, yes, yes, yeah,
And I think at this point as a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And this was this was the Republican Party in the
eighties nineties, you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Know, assuming that they dealt with it very civil civilly
right like they were. Or was there contention in the
household political contention?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
There was just contention.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Really, yeah, it has nothing to do with politics. They
just hated each other.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I think I think there was a There are many
stories of high drama with keys getting thrown through windows
or laptops ending up in dumpsters.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Like a chair broken over someone, but then the laughs
came pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, I would say was a combination of these like
very intense moments where we have you know, intense stories,
and Casey and I were often the ones kind of
putting the piece together or saving face in some ways.
But also everyone thought of our family and our parents
as these hilarious characters that you wanted to be, like Oliver,
just lighting up rooms as you come in.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
But ye one on like Kate, Yeah, she just had
that ability.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah, that's special something it would be nice.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Would I just darkened? I seemed to darken rooms dark
and gloomy?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Our parents are both very funny, and boy, humor can
get you so far, I think because they were big personalities,
but mainly just so funny and fun and strange.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And you know, they in our town. Like one time
our dog ran.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Away, and then ten years later a dog came up
on the porch that resembled our dog, and my parents
were convinced it was their dog.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Now this, now, this would make the dog. Like eighteen nineteen,
we get the dog all at shots.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
They posed for the cover of the like Alexandria Washington
d C magazine, and then we find out later it
was a four year old dog.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It wasn't our dog at all, who.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Had been hit by a car. And that's why I
was limping.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's they did.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Were just very strange, but they were kind of magical thinkers.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You might just didn't The dog didn't seem to respond
to its name, so the signs were there from the start.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
But but my mom was like, because he doesn't remember it,
it's been so long, but he always comes home.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Were they the kind of parents that like like really
like were they more creative and you know easy like
more like a kind of easy going, creative, sync outside
of the box type of parents. There were as a
you know, you know, you go to school, you do
your homework.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
There's like a really more creative.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
It was very like ketchesketch can of like we love
the movie movies and we used to go to the movies. Remember,
on like a Sunday night, our dad would open the
paper like, let's go and go see a double feature
was like nine at night. Just obsessed with the movies
and really funny. They were very creative, but out there.
You know, our dad, especially after and I've written about
this a bunch, but especially after our mom died, our dad,
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you know, he had a period of readjustment.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
He got a perm and he did some things.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Hard to see that too, you know, and that we
had to live through that deal questions about that perm you.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Mean the perm is essentially was his midlife crisis. Like
a Republican with a perm does this sounds every day?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Well, he found a twenty dollars bill this is true,
on the street and he brought it into the barber
and he said, I want to look like Andrew Jackson.
You just like the look, like the way I might
bring your picture Kate, you know my stylists and say like,
give me the Kate Hudson. He said, give me the
Jackson and it was like a flowy, large barreled perm.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wow, Dad's a that's an amaze.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Is in choice? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
I respected it.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So I kind of want to understand that they probably
took you out and put you in private school because
you did you were actually like, you know, well no, yeah,
I mean just had been like when you're when you
have a gifted, if you really had like, you know,
a tendency towards math, and you were gifted in maths.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I just I think that I think they're really they
wanted us to both be super successful at something. I
think there was a dry it wasn't just like do whatever.
I think they both feel like you're part of part
of life is to get really good at something, be
passionate about something. And I think whenever they felt there
was a direction to push in that they would push,
but or at least enable.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But right, it's like you you you could sit at
a desk and you could solve a problem, and that's
where you shined, whereas Casey was just on stages, tap dancing, writings. Yeah,
I mean our.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Mom was very passionate. So my friend's nicknamed her Kathie.
I'll do anything for my daughter Wilson, which isn't I
guess a great nickname. But she was very passionate promoter
of us both.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's a good nick It was just long.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's long. It doesn't roll off.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
There's commas in there.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Did you find that when when Fletcher, when Casey was younger,
that like were like, was she when you said dad
built her stage and like, could you tell that like
she performing was going to be what she did?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
A good question. I think it was clear. It's clear
that she loved it, and I think, uh no, it
was I think early on it was musical theater. It
wasn't comedy. I actually think it was when I clicked
that my sister is really good. And this is when
you got more into comedy. I'm not saying you weren't
a good actress. It's just like those productions or.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You know you went to n Yu and you were
kind of doing drama, right.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yes, yes I was, and then people were they would
laugh during things.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I would do that I thought, were that's a sign.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You're always trying. You're always trying to get a laugh. Now,
I still feel when you do dramatic roles, now that
you've gotten the comedy like out of when you go
back to more dramatic roles, that's my favorite thing to
watch for you.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Now, look, I'm not carrying these dramas. I'll be given
a few lines.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I have something to see about this. I feel like
comedy's harder. Is is the wrong word. It's actually a
much more difficult gift, like a gift. It because because
part of it's a gift, and then the other part
is is I believe that the great comedian and people
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who have great comedic timing are actually incredibly intelligent actors
because you kind of have to walk this line and
thank you so much, but it is, you know, and
then I and I think usually what happens is that
people that lend towards comedy when they get older, they
start to get more into their dramatic roles, and that
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actually usually comes probably a little bit easier than the comedy,
or they find at least for me, it's like it's
a little bit it's a little bit more. It doesn't
take as much energy like you know, as as when
you're trying to do something comedic.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yes, yes, no, but totally agree.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But people who have comedic timing, it's like it's like
something that you're given, or when you don't.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Have it, it's hard to get people to laugh at
a comedy club in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, when you've just gone up one time. I kept
hearing some of the other nights you should have hurt.
Let's get on a camera.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
There's there's some footage roll the tape.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
We gotta put we gotta give fletch for five minutes
at the comedy story. Yeah, it's got it. That is
me Oliver.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I was just curious to ask the question from before,
what is it like for you to watch Kate, because
I I it's been a developing difficulty of like watching
my sister and giving feedback and I think we've gotten
to a good place on that or not giving feedback,
but you know how to. But it's always been very
hard for me to watch Casey. Actually, I'm curious to
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hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Why has it been hard?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Is that why you don't watch any of my stuff?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Nervous? You're nervous.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I watch, I watch, I'm very nervous for you. I
like S and L was the pinnacle of this where
like it's live and like I'd be sitting there with
my friends and someone be like, ohn't funny, like about
my sister a lot, you know, And it's so it
comes from a place of like really thinking like she'd
be better in this other role, like knowing that you're
(29:16):
very talented, but wondering what.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
KA sounds when you but when.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
You, I don't know, I'm just curious. It is very
hard for.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It sounds like you're an EmPATH. It sounds like more
like you're more sensitive to the criticism than even Casey
might be. But I think people who are like, we know,
we're going to get criticized all you can't, you know
what I mean? No matter what, some people are going
to love you, some people are going to hate hate it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, I don't. I don't get I don't. I never
got nervous with Kate. It was exciting, Honestly. I was
just actually talking about this yesterday that I think Kate
right now is in this really cool place of sort
of reclaiming her extreme talent as an actor. And you know,
she's been focused on her businesses and doing her thing
(30:05):
when you know what she's great at. But you know, look,
she's an amazing actor. But I's sort of moved away
from that a little bit, and I think now it
feels like there's this momentum into her sort of later
years and probably going to do really cool shit. That's
what I That's what I That's what I'm feeling. You
just got her music and her album, she's got all
(30:26):
the other stuff. But in the last couple roles, it's like, Okay,
now we're moving into sort of the back nine of
your acting career.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I only I love you so much, that's what I do. No,
I want you to direct a movie. I can't. I
have this movie I want you to direct, and I'm
going to I want to do in it.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That would be so great if you directed your sister.
I think that would be amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Oh, it's going to be so good Postal, I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I want to say something about your performing, Kate. It's
so hard.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
You make it look so easy that it's almost deceptive
because it's so hard to do what you can do,
which is.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
To light up the screen and make it look fun
and easy, and that is so difficult. So I always
have to I just have to tell.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
You that it's okay. I'm going to take this all
in that it makes me feel.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
God, it was one more thing. I was at your house.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
We were working on Bribe Wars when I got the
phone call that I got on SNL.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I don't if you remember that. I had to leave.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh my god, are you kidding? No?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I said, it's so weird. Lauren Michaels called me.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I auditioned like eight months ago, and you were like, oh,
he's going to tell you got on the show.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm like, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I haven't heard one thing in eight months. And you
were like, he is.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Why that was so exciting?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
How is that audition? By the way, it was so.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Terrifying, truly terrifying, truly just like a dark room. You
can't see them sitting at the table, and they said
the good thing. They were like, they will not laugh, so.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, Lauren won't laugh, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
And then you wait alone for like four hours and
you don't know when they're going to come in, and
then they come in and you do it and it's
just it's just very odd.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
But so what what do you have to do? Do
you have to write your own sketch? Sketch, you have
to write your own stuff?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
What do you remember what you did?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I do now. I just want you everyone to know
it's a different time.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Okay, we skip over. Did you do something that was
like the cancible of offense?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
I had done a bit for a while in LA
and I did it in the audition and then I
did it with Ashton Kutcher on the show, which is
that I was a stripper who had unfortunately become quadriplegic,
and but I still wanted to strip, and I was
the positive person, and so I my handler would put
me on people and give I could still do my
lap dances and my poll work when I had to
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be aided, and but it wasn't really lovely, you know,
life of firm and character, and so I did that
and some other things. But in hindsight, you know, we
never want anyone to think I'm making fun of anyone.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Paul Wilson and I were sitting was an upright Citizens
Brigade where you did the same skit live, and I'm
sitting with my dad. We didn't know this, and she's
doing the quadriplegic stripper and her boob pops out and
she can't fix it because she's ablegic, and my dad
and I are standing like seven feet from her boob
and she's moving around a lot because the car behinders
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like that was like that is stained in my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
My god.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So you didn't fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You just can't because I just committed. And that's the
kind of actor I am.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I am as a performer, and I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think too committed to that character.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
I would have loved my acting partner had noticed that
and helped me out.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Casey going going back, actually just went we jumped ahead.
But as far as as far as comedy goes, as
far as understanding what she wanted to do, you know,
I know that seemed to happen after and even though
you were funny because you wanted to be in the art,
you wanted to be an actor, but you were in
sort of the dramatic world. Is that fair to say?
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And then what happened to where it was like, fuck,
you know what, I should just do funny?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, I met June Dianne Rayphiel, who's my best friend
when we were seventeen and a lot of people know
her from Grace and Frankie.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
She played Brianna, the older sister.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And at the time we just decided to write a
two women sketch show together and so we did it
and it was so much fun. We loved it, and
then we went and did it at Asked the Aspens
HBO Comedy Festival, and that's where this woman, Heidi Sherman
Gray from New Regency, as Kate mentioned, said Hey, there's
this script Brideways.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
We think you guys should adapt it.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
So oddly it was like very much involved you, Kate,
because in the course of like two years, suddenly but
we cried when we found out because we wanted to
be actors. So in our heads we were like going
to be like I was like, I'm Julia Roberts.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
She's Kate husband.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And then this agent was like, we'd love to sign
you guys, and we're so excited and they're like as writers.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
And we went to the bathroom and cried and I
was like, they think we're ugly. It was so sad.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
But then when we wrapped our heads around that, we're like, oh,
writing is incredible and and that's and then that was
our first job we ever got was to write Bride Wars.
Wow as actors, writers, as anything. It was our first
job ever.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Wow, I'm pretty cooler was a character name that Chris
Pratt played fun that's right, Yeah, that's right, christ Be.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
He doesn't get any glory, but yet there he is.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And I do I do love how that Bride War
is just like there's so there's it just it holds up.
I can't even believe that, Like girls that are young now,
like is the next generation become like hook?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I's so great. The only movie that plays a dry
bar dry bar has gotten that movie life.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Why don't you guys adapt it for Broadway?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wow? Adapted? That is a good idea.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
It is a good idea with amazing music.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Broadway is not a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Broadway with amazing music. And I mean it's it's it's
it's the form, really good idea. It's actually it's Broadway
for sure, for real. You see your fucking talented I am.
Generally it's like no one gets it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You're an idea.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's incredible, Big, big time.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Big Wars on Broadway Wars. The way the literation works,
I mean Jesus Casey, this is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, we're.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We're killing, resurrecting.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Not people light up the room when she walks in.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
My storm cloud.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I just take a producing credit and to check that's good.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Okay, okay, yeah for you, but by the great idea,
I love this idea.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah you guys, get on it?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Uh when you so? So, how was your experience on SNL?
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was it was tough.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I'll be honest, I'm so grateful that I got on,
But it was just I went in by myself, so
I didn't come in with like here are the performers
I went or the writers. I went in right after
the first actor strike, and it just felt like you're
like knocking on doors and like at someone's house, almost
like no one's introduced you.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're at a party and you're like wandering around and
the host like hasn't kind of introduced you. Is what
I like a show.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
But it was also incredible and fun and weird, and
it was one of those things where it was like
you get the dream job of your life, and then
when I was only on for two years, then suddenly
you're like, who am if I didn't totally land the
dream job that I had. It's a mind fuck of
like I was so devastated when I was let go,
but then it led to like all the other right things.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
So it was one of those that had like every
high and low within it.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
How how how were you let go? How does that?
What does that look like? What happened?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
It's so it's it's actually the absence of something happening.
Where my manager called them was like, so you know
they send.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The facts when you're brought back.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
And she said she was watching the fax machine and
that four faxes came through for her for other clients.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
And then she's like, and I'm.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Checking the paper like is it Is it a paper issue?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
And it was not.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It wasn't a kind of a technical issue.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
No one called you. It's just they don't really call you.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
They just sort of it's like if you're not called
kind of a thing, so you have to be like
just double checking here, I just want to pick a
quick that's pretty intent double check it isn't. But you
know what it's it's such a great show and I
watch it every week. Damn it if I don't watch
it every single week.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, it's also like it's also like our business is
fucking harsh. Yeah, it's just like if you don't realize
that going into it, you will never survive any of it.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, you guys must have seen that up close, like
growing up in it.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
And I mean, you're actually the most talented mother that's
walked the earth.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But did you feel that going into it, how harsh
it was?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
It's harsh. Yeah, no, But but yes, I know how
hard my mom has had to fight for things that
she wanted. I watched her, like really fight hard all
the time, no matter how big of a movie star,
if she was in her element or in her prime,
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if she wasn't. It's like constantly fighting for the things.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Especially as a female. Obviously she she was. She was
doing this in a time where it was definitely not
you know the norm where you know, a female is
having produces, producing deals at studios, and you know, it
was it was it was a boys it was a
boys club. She had to really fight for her ship.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
But I just think that it hasn't changed all that much,
even though the dialogue has changed. You talk about men,
women whatever. But but but most importantly, like whether you're
male or female, it's so hardcore. I mean, you know
from the beginning, from the auditioning process, and it's it's
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like you're really putting. If you decide to be a performer,
you're just like you might as well love to jump
in like the fire. Yeah, I like to jump in
the fire.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's what I like.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Did I talk about that with his job too, only
because he's an entrepreneur. It's like there's not that many
jobs where you're constantly like auditioning for a new job
every second, Like you're just constantly put having to put
yourself back out there to try to get another job,
even if that's not like an audition.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
It's just there's just so much rejection.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
And you face that too with like raising money in
your business as well.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
I do think the one thing you all have that
a lot of other folks don't is this sense of completion.
Every once in a while, you get to do a
project and like finish it, right. A lot of people's
lives are like it's working towards the next goal and
then what's the next thing? But it all builds. But
you have these sort of like nice tidy starts and finishes,
and then you can kind of relax and not worry
about that, So there's trade off, But you can't imagine.
(41:28):
In my world, I learn just not faccing them. I
mean we don't use fax machines either, by the way.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, I love that observation. You're so like that's so
interesting because you're right, it's like we get these little
creative babies that we actually get to like see through.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
True.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, although I will say I wonder, like I guess
the intrigue is probably what I you know, and and
the entrepreneurial thinking versus actual execution of it is two
different things. Like I think there's a lot of people
who are like entrepreneurial and the way they think, but
really it's about how you follow through with your idea
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and whether they you know, have real success or not.
And like I wonder if for you, for instance, like
what is the endgame for you? And like you hear
you have this idea, you're following it through.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I can answer that question it's a five billion dollar exit.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
But like really, like you know, because if to be
an entrepreneur means there's multiple ideas, there's multiple things that
you're thinking.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, I've heard that every entrepreneur has it's motivated by
either fame, power or money, and it's one or the
other and you're just gonna you might lie, but there's
one of those, and for me, I actually think it's fame,
so I'll be honest. Like I like the idea, like.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I don't think to admit.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I appreciate it, right, But.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I like the idea of building something that's really cool.
And those listening might not feel like, you know, solar
powered smart bathrooms are cool, but I think I feel
really strong about the mission. And this is my second
and you do these things for ten, fifteen, twenty years.
But I like the idea of being known as the
person who, like whatever created the uber of bathrooms or whatever.
I kind of like that idea, and then it sparking
(43:20):
other conversations.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Ooh, uber of bathrooms, like maybe bathrooms on wheels.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Sure it's in the patent, it's there, the bathrooms.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
That's what I'm going to say next time when someone
asked me to tell them what it is.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I love that because what is drawing you? Like what
an interest like same power, money, money, and yours is valid.
It's like validation.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
It is valid, and I don't know if it ties
into the same I don't know thread of what drives
Casey or what, but I kind of like them. Yeah,
I think we both.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Require well probably unconsciously too. Your sister's famous and you're not.
So this is a way sort of.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Plainly, I wouldn't be that.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
I don't know if I end, and then.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
I can relate that I can relate to because I'm essentially,
you know, a bit of the black sheep as far
as career goes. You know, everyone's better than me and
has done more than me. It has done more.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Success than it's like when it's like when Tony Robbins
said said to Oliver, yeah you love that trophy.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Keep you keep holding on to that trophy. Well, here's
the issue. I'm a very self deprecating person, of course,
which is the.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Number one quality my brother and I find in any human.
I just want to point that out. Yes, it's the
number one quality there.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
But here's here's the fear of that. You know, I
do believe that when you say something enough it starts
to sink in and you actually then believe it. So
my self deprecation, even though you know a conscious thing,
I'm like, well, it's just a joke, but I say,
it's so much that it becomes part of my narrative.
You know, the fact that I'm aware of that, that's
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another level that I can't. I don't know if I
can unpack.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
But like there's I can. I'll unpack it for you.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
It's interesting though, you know, we can be funny and
be self deprecating, but essentially that is that is fucking
seeping into how we feel about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
I want to get back to this power money fame,
because Fletcher, I think, like what you just said is
actually a driving for most people in the things that
they do. Like what like what is the unless you're like,
unless you even even in charitable organizations, right, even in
(45:45):
charitable work. Let's say, what drives you personally to want
to do the thing that you do? And you know
what I can answer mine, it's money. Because I like
to play. I want to play, I want to travel,
I want to like I love clothes, like I love
like lamps, and like I'm like, so I'm like so
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eighty d that I just want to like do different things.
I don't want to invest. Yeah, so like money drives me.
I'm like, oh, if I make this money, then I can,
you know, go to India and buy a bunch of textiles.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Textiles have always driven you.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
But I think that that's that's something that we think
is like something we shouldn't put out and like, oh, well,
we shouldn't say that, But I think it's actually really
important to like Casey, what drives you?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
God, I was thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
I'm like, but you both have reframed money and fame
so nicely. I'm like, I don't know how I'm going
to reframe power is power. It's a tough one to reframe.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Right, well, power is more as broad money bom fame,
boom power. I mean, how do you I.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Don't even know. I'm probably just like other people. Okay,
I think control.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
I think I've got older sister kind of like wanting
to control things too much. So it's mine's probably not
as nicely realized as both of yours.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I like that. But but power is also like to
have the power. It's also like a self choice, Like.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Choice is getting to do other things, getting to work
with other people.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Like I love that choice of like or and.
Speaker 5 (47:20):
I'm not trying to say, oh I'm so altruistic, but
I do love helping people and just feels like with
power comes a lot and I think that is also
something about being the older sister that in control.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Again, it's I love this, Oliver. What about you?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Oh guess fame power what? No, I'm already like super
famous money.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
You want textiles too.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
That's like two siblings with the same like entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Love lane, which we do.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
We just want to like, we just want some money
to like go fish. I'll fish with you. I'll wear
really cute outfits and fish just to go do the
things that I want to do, just you're doing.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
But I wanted to say something that, you know, going
back to you know what Fletcher said about how we
have a sort of beginning middle of an end and
we have a little creative nugget. But I will so
I will say that most creative, most artists are completely
afraid of where their next job is coming from, to
the point where that that one ends and then you're like,
oh fuck, what happens next? You know, And we live
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in a very unstable business where you could make a
ton of money and then boom you're making zero dollars.
And that's how I've lived my life, that crazy instability
where I'm going to show for seven years and I
afford a lifestyle that bang, that ship is gone. I'm like, Okay,
what the fuck now?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
You know, I think you're right, Oliver. And what motivates
me probably is on some level because of Casey and
you know, wanting to be in that conversation. I think,
not not like in a begrudging way or jealous way,
but I think it does motivate me in like a
positive way.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
You know what. That's the most That's the best thing
I've heard from a sibling on this fucking podcast, because
everyoneb you can't know there's an admission of wanting to
sort of reach a status that your sibling has because
you want you there's a part of you that wants that.
A lot of their siblings we talk to are like, no,
I'm good, I don't want this or I have no
(49:28):
this for bah blah. But it's like, yeah, Casey's famous,
Like I kind of want to be fucking famous too.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
But I'll say this Butcher is so smart. I do
think this Buncher that my whole life. I'm like, I'm dumb.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
I want to have some of like what you have.
It's an interesting thing. We both have our labels of.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Like I can't do this and you can't do that,
but I you're such a brilliant guy.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
I wish Kate had something like that for me. I'm
not sure what it is, honestly.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, that leads us. Let's do this since you do
have to go, Fletcher, Let's do our last question, which
is it's a two part question, like one thing that
you admire about your sibling that is something you would
love to emulate, and then the second part of it
is is what is the one thing that you wish
(50:13):
you could alleviate from them that you think would make
their life.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Just a little bit better. It's a segment called alleviate
and emulate.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Should I go first?
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yeah, emulate. Casey is the best person in the world
that I know at just striving to get better growth personal.
She's always got this the next thing she's trying to do,
and like looking at the eighteen year old version of
Casey versus now, is like a totally different person, Like
the bones of the foundation is the same, but she
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is relentlessly trying to become a better person, either for
herself or for other people or kids or whatever. So
that's I think we could all emulate that. I think
who alleviate? I think Casey and I share this one.
I wish I could alleviate in myself a little too,
which is the people pleaser part. I think we're both
like very and it comes from our parents, but very
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focused on making sure people like us. And I think
there are certain times that can inhibit growth or inhibit happiness,
and I guess I wish I could alleviate ten percent
of that for you.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I relate, I relate to that.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
That's so nice.
Speaker 5 (51:23):
I totally agree, Fletcher, and we both have the people pleaser.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
I actually think you've.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Done a lot better kind of forging your path and
not caring as much, and in.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
A good way, not in the way that you don't
care about other people. I don't mean that.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
I mean because even that very thoughts may being you
nervous because we're both so like we want people to
But I also would like to alleviate.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
I want more childcare for you, and that's just fuck.
Speaker 5 (51:44):
That would be che bunch of four kids more childcare.
But my compliment to you, Fletcher is no, people want
to be around you so much. Butcher for like his
to pick his groomsmen he did a weekend long competition
for his twenty guy friends and the ones that one
got to be the groomsman at his wedding.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
And you make everything that drives people crazy and it's strange,
but it's so fun. You really make fun.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
So everyone wedding any explain why they were able to
do it or not?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
That is so funny. I don't want to know more
about the offline. I guess we'll get.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
May the best man win.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
You got a roll, but one more coach. And while
your sisters here are like, do you have more money
than she does?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Well, okay, Casey is currently an investor and Throne has
saved me from the brink of bankruptcy a couple of times,
so now he does. We're in this together. No, I don't.
I am.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I will say I actually invested very little. Thrown is
doing very well. It's your last business, you know.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
Still still going Thanks for that investment as well. Kidding,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You know they can't help your winners.
But know I think.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
I'm but you plan on being a big time.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeahs As we've established, it's not
the primary motivator. But if right, if I'm famous, I'll
have to be wealthy with this one, hopefully. But that
is not that is not the primary goal, trying to
help people.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Okay, and then I know you gotta leave it. One
more thing. I have to say this, Fletcher, you're fucking
funny generally, like the timing, the wits. I honestly think
he's I don't know about the five minutes, you know,
but he's but he's flet's just funny. He's funny.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Thanks Oliver, appreciate Butcher.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Thank you for joinings. Casey, what you stay with us
so we can talk.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
About okay, Thanks Kate, thanks so much, Thanks Oliver, this was.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
So really fun Thank congrats on your business. Honestly, real quick,
we're gonna let you go. I want to talk about
few things. Number one is Happy Endings. I think that
was such a great show by the way, process of that.
(54:07):
And then you met your man on that show, right,
he created that show. Yeah, so you were sleeping, you
were sleeping with him, that's right. First season.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
I tried first.
Speaker 5 (54:18):
Season desperately, but he was like with dating every hostess
in West Hollywood, so I so life knocked him down.
A little, you know, and I sort of got in
there through humor.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Is that sort of true?
Speaker 5 (54:36):
Million We would go to dinner in West Hollywood and
someone would take us to the table like here you go,
like put down the menus, like mad I was like,
did you.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
Sleep with her? He's like I did. She's so nice
and I don't know what happened. And he had his time,
but now it's a wonderful husband.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, oh great. And then that show? Did you audition
for that show?
Speaker 1 (54:57):
I auditioned for.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
It and randomly it was like got on it and
a couple of months after snel and then it's like
a weird show. It's like not a lot of people
have seen it, but people who have really are obsessed
with it. And it's so nice.
Speaker 3 (55:10):
Well, it's really good. It's good. It's just good. You know,
it's hard these days finding a good half hour. It
is hard network comedy.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
I'll say, you know, I did my first half hour
comedy comes out in February, but it's.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
You did with them?
Speaker 3 (55:25):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (55:26):
Mindy Kaling wrote it? Yeah, so did you like it?
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I loved I had the best time. I can't wait
to promote it because I just love everybody so much.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
And Max, isn't it too right? Max, isn't it the best?
Speaker 2 (55:41):
He's the best, and he plays my fiance nice and honestly,
it was just one of those things I left every
day like it was just the best.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's so nice.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
So I really hope we get to do another season
or two. I hope it's because I haven't had that
much fun.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
Especially when you're older. It's like I pray to have fun,
Like life is short, Let's just have a laugh please.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:08):
Oh and I'm just working with great comedians and laughing
all day is just there's just nothing like it. It's
just like healing.
Speaker 3 (56:15):
Yeah, you know, Just so you know, The Great British
Bakeoff is like my favorite show of all time. I
just finished this last I just finished season eleven. I
watched every single season with my daughter Rio Rio and
I are like obsessed with the show. When I sensed,
I mean like for real, like I've seen every single
episode and I just finished this season. So this is exciting. Shit,
(56:38):
I'm so exciting yet.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
No, and for me, this is the third season of
the American One.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
But it's a stame with it's judges and it's in
the tent and it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
And it's not.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
This one's on Roku, but I love I had not.
I've seen the show a little bit, but now I'm
just just like you. I'm obsessed with it.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
It's okay, that's what you did. Did you do this
in the summer?
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (56:58):
I did it with summer yet Okay, yeah they asked me.
Did they keep asking me to do it?
Speaker 5 (57:02):
And I's so fun, I will say, it's so quick
and you come in and out and it is so
much fun.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Is it all celebrity driven?
Speaker 5 (57:13):
We did three celebrity ones, one Christmas one, and then
we did a real season, a full season with American bakers,
like the you know, normal show format.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
It exactly the same way, back to the.
Speaker 1 (57:23):
Same Paul and prou.
Speaker 3 (57:25):
I've ever seen that. I haven't seen the American one.
Speaker 5 (57:27):
It's on Roku. So we're in our thirties. It's about
to come out. But it's so And Zach Cherry is
my co host. He's on Severance that show, and he's
so funy it's great.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
But Casey, do you bake?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
No? I don't know. You couickle out right?
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah you should do.
Speaker 5 (57:42):
You would also win by the way you would get
a handshake. He was having to like give handshakes to
like comedians, and in his brain he's like, oh my god.
He didn't have to give anything, but he did give
one out because someone blew us away. But the comedians wouldn't.
They are coming in with the most.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Do you eat the bakes every time?
Speaker 1 (57:59):
So the host you know, they don't eat ever.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
I just came in and I said, I don't want
to change the format, but why can't I have something?
Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (58:05):
So I work around with me. I try them all
I do.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
I'm like the real right, Yeah, And is the American
one out right? That the American one's already been out?
Or is that coming?
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah? The American season two is out. Our third one's
about to come up.
Speaker 5 (58:19):
But right now the Christmas specials out and it's a
holiday like celebrity special.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Fun it's really I'm going to I'm going to watch
it and then bitch Sash ten years ten years of
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
It's a podcast.
Speaker 5 (58:30):
It's about the housewives, and you know, I know people
love them or they don't, you know, but I'm stand
in my truth and we have comedians and we just
talk about these glorious monsters.
Speaker 3 (58:42):
Amazing, how fun?
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeh, I was on Andy late you know, yeah, watching
late night. Yeah, I watch to watch up. I wasn't,
and I said, where do I start? He's like episode one, Yeah,
I want.
Speaker 5 (58:56):
I want to hear it because they're like, but there's
twenty nine. It's like right, And I was like, maybe
I need to just start. I've never I've literally maybe
seen a half of an hour.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I'm like you, I've never seen. I've never seen one.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Really start with Beverly. I think you would get a
kick on Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like we need to
be in on this.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
It's like too long, I'll start. I love reality TV.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Did your wife watch at all?
Speaker 3 (59:19):
No? Okay, she does not like she does not like
reality television. I'm always watching like below Deck. She's like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (59:29):
Oh my god, Oliver, if you're going on the high
Seas with those you will love?
Speaker 3 (59:33):
Oh yeah, I love below Deck.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Oh wow? Do you watch Summerhouse, either of you.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
I've seen it. I've seen it a little nutty.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
So fun, It's it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (59:43):
Woman, I never watched vander Pump, you know what I like.
Speaker 1 (59:47):
But I'm a house sign.
Speaker 2 (59:49):
My thing is I've read a thousand million things that
I have to do, and then when I go to
watch something, it's I'm so tired.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
You don't want to see women screaming each other and
that's not what you want.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
It's like, do I read my book or do I watch?
If I get into the house lies, I think I'll
never read Watch Over and.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Husband Who's pretending to have cancer?
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Right right? Exactly the problem is I go to watch
something really good. In my mind, I'm like, I'm going
to watch something that is like a classic and it's
actually going to fulfill me with some sort of creative
and then the platform always has like like, I guess
I'll watch Richard Ramirez tapes or you know, or some
weird fucking show. I guess I'll watch the some cult documentary.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
That that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
John Jonestown is just come on, it's brand new. Watch
the one is good? Is it good?
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Johnstown?
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's wild?
Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
All the yoga ones.
Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
So I'm like when I start listening and you're watching it, going,
I know this is sick, and then I'm like, I
like what that leaders?
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I'm always like I'm about to join it. I'm watching after.
Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I know it's like, did you see what was called
Mother God or.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Dude with the christ lights and the.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
The opening of that doc where they come in on
her blue face with.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
The dude's mother god mother.
Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Dude. She is My kids call me mother silver. She
thinks that colonial silver. She turns blue. I mean, it's
not like, yeah, look at your sweater.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
That's oh my god, Casey, it was so good to
see you.
Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
I'm so glad to see you. Thank you guys so
much for having me. I have my brother truly all
just said he was so touched to be included.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So thank you. Bye, guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Bye. Thank you. Nice to meet you too. I think
I impressed them.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
That was the best. I love I love Casey, I
love June. They're so great.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
It's kind of cool. She makes she makes me laugh.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, she's so funny, fun she's.
Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Also so sweets on SNL.
Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Although short, it was memorable, like she stands out to me,
which is I don't know why they let her go,
but it's all for the best. And he's great. He's funny.
You can tell. He's witty, he's funny, he's sharp, like
I know, and he does toilets and she does comedy.
Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
I mean, it's so great. Solar powered toilets is. Yeah,
you can't write it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
You can't write it. No, you can't. You can't write it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
It's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
I like, steal their whole life in the new show
with these like, you know, opposing political parents, toilets and comedy.
I mean, you can't get I love you. I love
you too.
Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
No,
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Oliver Hudson
Kate Hudson
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