November 13, 2019 • 64 mins
Kate and Oliver are joined by comedians Bobby and Steve Lee for a hilarious and very honest episode of Sibling Revelry. We learn about their childhood, struggles with addiction, and how laughter has helped them through their hardest times. One of the Lee brothers may also have an obsession with Kate’s feet.
Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna
Produced by Allison Bresnick
Editor: Josh Windisch
Music by Mark Hudson
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
H I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Ravalry, No, no, sibling.
Don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good. So
(00:39):
Bobby and Steve Lee are Today's guests, and they're hilarious. Yea, amazing.
They had us laughing most of the time, but then
it did also get serious. I lost it in this episode.
Oh god, it was beautiful. I mean it was really so.
It ran the gamut. I mean, because Bobby is an
insane person and he's gotten foot fetish and he's hysterical,
(01:02):
so is Steve. Steve is equally is funny and insane.
But when they had to sort of talk to each
other about what they loved about each other and what
they wished for each other, it was like I was crying.
That was beautiful. Well. I also got really emotional because
of the way that Bobby handles his situations in his
(01:26):
life that have happened. You know, he talks, he talks
very openly about being molested as a kid, but he
is funny about it, and he kind of you and
I just couldn't handle it. I just know, well, I mean,
obviously he's covering up a lot of pain. Yeah, it
just hit me, remember, and I really had a moment
with it. Will you guys judge for yourself, But how
(01:47):
much pain is Bobby Lee actually covering up? But I
really love them talking about their parents, how their parents met,
their relationship with their parents, San Diego. They grew up
in southern California, and they are both wrestlers, They both
do stand up comedy, both addicts, both addicts. They are
(02:08):
just so supportive of each other's careers. Especially Steve. He
just revered Bobby. It was really sweet. Anyway, you'll not
want to miss Steve's cowboy rap. My god. That's right.
So here's Bobby and Joy. Before we start this episode,
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I just want to send Oliver and my condolences to
the Lee family after we interviewed them. Their father passed
away and so we are sending love and light. Okay.
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So I do all like the heavy lifting and the
reading and then all of her free freestyles. That's kind
of how this is. That's kind of how this is.
That's like how you do yours. You don't research much.
Right now, I don't do really any because when I do,
I funk it out. Can I swear on this? Is it? Yeah?
Oh god? Yeah? So what I know about you guys
now is that what you're the older brother Bobby, you're
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the younger brothers. You you basically followed in every single
one of his footsteps in terms of wrestling, because you
wrestled as well. And how do you know that? And
because she does research read so much? Did right? Oh? Big? Okay?
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So you she knows so many things about you and
so and then you also then got into comedy. I
took a crack at it, and you had already gotten
into comedy. I was in comedy, and then he started
many many years later. And then he opened for me
in it. We don't have to get into that. I'm
(04:00):
going to bring it out, Okay. He opened for me
in Arizona the Temple Improv. He ate it so bad. No,
was this your first gig? No? He had been doing
open mics around l A. I choked so hard. Remember
your opening. It was like the worst dream you could have.
You remember your opening first. So firstly, it was a
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fourth of July or New Year. It was one of
those shoes. It was packed like the the Pladium. The
upstairs was, everything was. It was at the Palladium. It's
the about right. The balcony was. The balcony was full. Okay,
it's a full house. I got a bloody nose walking
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up to the stage because the altitude maybe or Arizona.
And then I was like, I try to like below
sea level, try there, okay. And so the one thing
he gave me pointers before I actually went on stage,
(05:10):
he goes, I love you, try your best. The one
thing I'm asking to do is engage with the crowd,
acknowledge them. And that's the main thing I didn't do.
So I walked up there and then I was like,
I had a cowboy bit? Where do the bit? I do?
I do a song where it's like a cowboy trying
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to do like make it in the rap game. And
I was like, I had this thing called like forty
dollars bitter. So I was like, forty dollars better forty dollars,
you know, bit by bit bye, you know, forty dollars better,
forty dollars better forty I'll put your face in the manure.
My brain is the computer. You know you messed with
my style. I get my cousin couter, you know, like
I kept going, it was I did this whole rap.
I was just and then I like, I was like
(05:54):
forty dollars bitty, but there's no jokes. There's no joke
like for it. And then like I get done with
my wrap, you know, and then and then I like
look up and it was like like a sea of silence.
And I remember one lady in the front row like
she was crossing her legs like this, like oh no, oh,
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now is it. That's why I feel like stand up
comedy is like when you get up there, there's gonna
be a moment as a stand up comedian that you're
going to choke, You're gonna bomb. People aren't necessarily going
to you know, you're gonna have an off day. But
let's go back for a second, because I want to
want to go back into the like like like birth,
what part of Korea were you born in? I love it?
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But that was a good one, good job. But I
told you, you know, I already told you you already know, right,
And he brings it up on set, He'll say he's
North Korean. Talk about North Korea. You know what I mean,
and I'm always like, I'm not North Korean. I know
you get what you're talking about. You also like to
bring up my love life. I do. We're going to
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talk about all of this. Yeah, but no, for real,
where were you guys born? I was born in San Diego,
and so was my brother San Diego sharp hospital, one hospital, sharps,
other brothers, other brothers and sisters. I'm still nervous. This
is the whole time. I'm right, you're doing steep, steep, steep.
(07:24):
Live in the moment. I know you're killing You're doing well. Okay,
So you were born in San Diego, just the two
of you. Now your parents? Oh yeah, okay, so parents parents.
I know they had a store. They were in the
garment industry, fashion, fashion, gown. But let's talk about were
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they born in America? The parents? Okay, So my parents
were both born in Korea. They lived during the Korean
War as children, and they didn't meet in Korea. They
met in a nightclub in l A in the late sixties.
And the reason why they talked to each other, from
what my dad says, they were the only ones that
knew Korean in the club, like everyone else was white,
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so they just kind of looked at my dad just
looked at the only Korean that was there and just
walked up during You know, that's not how I remember it. Okay,
So what was your recollection of this club? What is
he talking about? I don't know where my mom my
dad stocked my mom. Oh, the stalking would later, I
don't I didn't know about the man and the nightclub
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and then dad stalked mom. And did mom feel the mom?
Mom left the state because of my dad. Yeah, because
he was like from Kimchi too, not kimchi, but he
stot he followed her to like the Midwest, somewhere Delaware,
wiscons Wisconsin to say it, okay, sorry, let me just say,
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because you don't know the information, all right, you're just
making it up. No, I'm not making it up. There's
no Mom told me. Mom told me to, Mom told
me to. I'll is there was there was there not kimchi?
Was there? No kimchi? Fact, I don't know exactly. Let's
get Bobby's perception of mom and dad meeting and the
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process up to when she actually said yes in like
a couple of sentences, and then we're gonna get Steve's perception.
Kate Hudson, May I say something, Kate Hudson. The nightclub thing, right,
could have been something that I made up to embellish
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the story he exaggerated. So there probably was Kimchi exactly.
There probably was, all right, what happened? All right? So
I'm not specifically I might have made that upright, So
let's put that aside, and I know, and to your
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fans and to everyone in the room, I apologize. And
I'm owning up to my character defect. Okay, that about you.
Thank you. I'm like the most forgiving person on the planet.
Thank you. All right. So I think family members or
whatever knew my mom and dad and they were introduced
in that way. Okay, But I do know for a
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fact that my mom left the state because my dad,
he's an alcoholic. So they they met and they dated
a couple of times. My dad get got aggressive or
was a little She didn't like him. I know that,
and I know that she was like, I got to
get the fuck out of here. So they she moved
to Wisconsin. My dad bought steak Omaha. I don't know
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what where the state comes from, but I know that's
where all, he was conceived Nebraska. Yeh, the connections, yeah yeah.
And he went found out where she lived in Wisconsin,
knocked on the door and he had I know. And
it wasn't at night though, was like probably during the day,
and he had a slab of steak because Koreans love meat.
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And then she went off, this guy got me steak, right,
that's that's like a dowry. It's like a big thing.
It's a big thing for Korean's. I guess, you know.
And then I don't know. I don't know, but I'm
just assuming. And then I guess she went I got
to give him another shot. And then he chilled. He realized,
you know, I have to like get this lady to
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marry me before I act myself, so that if he
put on a thing, he thinks for a couple of
maybe a year and a half, they get married. And
then he went crazy. Stevie, can't I got it, Stevie,
go no, I'm I I am agreeing with him. I
thought it was kim chi. I didn't know it was meat.
I didn't know that's what it was. I thought it
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was He didn't go the meat too, so he didn't.
So I'm not lying, but I'm gonna call my mom.
I'm not lying about them. Or maybe maybe maybe your
dad brought kim chi instead of steak. No, he didn't.
Because my brother doesn't know what he's talking about. I
asked why. I like you. That's what I'm saying. But
it makes sense because he knew that he knew that
your dad brought her. Can I just say something real
(12:05):
quick before we even continue. I just need you, all right.
My brother is playing a game with you. I'm not
playing anything you are. I'm so scared right now. Man,
this is crazy. Hey Bobby, how do you do How
do you know? I'm not playing? This is crazy? You're
not playing because I know you. No, you don't. I know,
but not in this setting. I don't know you in
the setting, but I kind of know the foundation that
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you you live by and the house they built, you know,
not on sand but on concrete, and I don't know what.
You don't have to stand up, you could sit down,
you don't have to stand I think it's authority. I
kind of I have a general idea and feeling about you,
and I think that you're a good dude. I am
thank you and I love you. I found this out later.
But my dad, like he drank a lot, he was
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running three clothing stores. But he also had a very
very very bad temper. And I didn't find this out
till later. But like later he uh, I guess he
was like chasing my mom down the hallway and then
like she had a barricade the door. You know, I
mean this guy was he was a red zone like abusive,
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like Genghis Khan. Was it abusive? Oh yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes,
So I didn't find that out. My mom has a tooth,
but I didn't know, like they didn't explain that to
me until later in life, like in my thirties or whatever.
She has a missing back replaced, knocked her out, knocked
her mouth out. Back in the day, back when there
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was like you know, pioneers and people that lived in
the frontier or whatnot, you would get married, right, so
you wouldn't necessarily go, I'm marrying this woman because she's
hot and she's got a great personality. No, she has
the body to mow the plow with the cow or
you know what I mean. And and she's sturdy, right,
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and those kind of things were mixed into it, and
my parents once they got married, it was like a
lifelong you know, no matter what matter. But that's what
we We had a conversation on set the other day,
and that's what you believe. You're like when you get married,
that's it. I'm so sick of all of these people
not being together. And I was like, well, what if
you're unhappy? What if you're falling out of love? And
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you were like, that's bullshit. You stick together no matter what.
Are you married? Oh no, no, no, no, you have
a girlfriend. You have a girlfriend two years years. Okay,
So you were first born in San Diego? When did
your parents? Do they have a lot of sex? Did
they have a lot of sex prior to conceiving you? Yeah,
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but I would assume it was not the kind of
sex that you and I partake in. Okay, yeah, I
think it's like stomach oh believe yeah, she's what I
don't I want to look at your eye? Right? No? Right?
And she laid on the stop squeeze it together? Right?
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Can I just you know, have some space? No, squeeze together,
might smooth right? And then and then she's he's just
like like a rabbit, you know what I mean? Right,
it's one of those kind of things. Yeah, I don't
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think it was like, you know, a candle, right, let's
put on some let's put on like roxy music avalon right. Yeah,
it's more like your mom probably had not enjoyable whatsoever
for I don't. I don't see it that way. I
think my dad's more of old school. Okay, do you
think like a prison? Do you think, and this goes
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to the esoteric, do you think the way you were
conceived maybe sort of like dictates who you are now
as a person. I think my brother and I are
lucky in the sense that you know, when you're in
an environment like that, A lot of people, I mean,
my brother and I turned to drugs. That's why I've
been sober. My brother had been so first. Who was
into drugs first? The other thing that was interesting he
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was he went to rehab, then you went to rehab. Yeah,
there's an interesting statistic. Kids who have older siblings who
smoke or drink are twice as likely to do basically
the same thing. So do you blame your brother for
those That's a real question though. Do you do you
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find that because you look did you look up to Bobby?
You still do? Right? You still do. So, did you
see him going down this path and want to mimic him?
Maybe maybe even unconscious subconsciously you know. No, No, although
because I remember going to the rehab and ocean side
and like going into the room and walking around the facility,
and we had family week at the McDonald Center, and
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so I like I knew better, but I was in
such pain when I choked at the state tournament that
that was like the only thing I could like that
would bring me. My brother was rade a student. It
was a church dude. Yeah. He had Bible study message
like passages from the Bible, and I had, Yeah, I
had passages of the Bible in my room because our
house was haunted to bro like in Poway. It was
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like Kevin Spacey's house in like that seven D. There
was just like burial ground like you lived. The house
was on like this plot of like an Indian bear
or something. Because they try to possess me. Was they
oh yeah, did you see an entity? They held me down?
I was, I had Bible versus they held me down
and then Who's day? Who's day? The spirits? Did you
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see them? No? But they held me that I couldn't
count move, but then then I say sleep, peralysis, sleep,
and then I heard yeah, and then the whispers, the whispers, interesting,
I can you know all about this? Right? Well, that's
the yeah that I did, I guess. So there's there's
a couple of reasons for that, Like there's the scientific
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reason that people would tell you what it is, and
then there's like people who really believe in things like
you and I do. Yeah, there's another reason for that too,
which is a whole other podcasts. But wow, that's crazy.
I did experience it. But because I started doing drugs
at the age of eleven twelve, I was doing math
at thirteen, right, I went to many institutions before I
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even went to high school. Really, you know, me just
lock up units. So he was supposed to wrestle his
senior year one hundred and twelve pounds. Yeah yeah, and
I couldn't do it, and so of the wrestling coach
like shoun, like he treated him like it was dead. Yeah. Yeah.
So it's like, you know, is it drug fueled paranoia?
Is it real? I mean I don't really know. So
it's like, you know, I believe what I felt, and
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I feel like I was possessed and I got up
from my bed and I ran to the swimming pool
because in a simple pool, and I jumped in the
pool to get myself out and it woke me up. Wow, right,
but I was literally like being posassed. And then I
because I asked my mom and later in life like
and they're like, oh, yeah, we had a it was
only on that side of the house, but they like
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would park the car and then run to their master
bedroom like there was like something going on on that
side of the house. Man telling, did you guys have love?
I mean, did your parents love you? I mean, did
you feel love from your from your parents? You did?
My dad would stay in the sober you know, he
would look and go, I love you and then he
would like kiss you on the cheek or whatever. I mean,
obviously there is love. But my dad had untreated alcoholism
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and he's still not sober. I mean, he he has
a stroke. So even in his state, he's still drinking anymore. No,
he can't drink. He can't drink now because my mom
controls everything, right, But if he hadn't had the stroke,
he would still be drinking at least beer or whatnot,
you know, But like, uh, all day, yeah, all day. Yeah, yeah,
my mom. I remember my mom would uh she would
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set aside like five Miller Lite cans of beer and
then he like the bloody beers where he would mix
klamata with it, and she would like have that in
the freezer too to prep up his his like little Yeah,
she basically did. Yeah, it was you know, but the
way my brother and I survived, yes, through drugs and alcohol,
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but we also survived through humor, right, I mean him
and I were jokesters, and I think in that aspect,
I guess it's a defense mechanism. But we didn't turn
out to be like thugs or like, you know, bad people.
We have a lot of issues. I mean I know
my brother inside and now, and we both have the
same kind of issues. But once I got sober, I
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was able to go, all right, what do I want
to do with my life? And that's why when I
was twenty three, I tried open mic night at it.
So you started using when you were really young? Yeah,
like really young? Yeah? And were you old enough to
understand that you were abusing something or yeah? I mean
I was molested I think when I was nine, and
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then in Minnesota we did this thing called knees to
knees where all the kids that's in rehab, their parents
would come and everyone would come at one time, and
we'd be in like an auditorium and we'd form a
circle and in the middle of the circle were two
chairs and that like you would be obviously I'm impatient,
and you would go knees to knees with your dad, right,
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And I told him, I go, and my brother was there,
and my mom was there, and I told me that,
you know, when I was nine, I was molested by
a guy with Down syndrome. And my dad goes, he
starts laughing, and then my brother started laughing. Then my
mom started laughing, and then I started laughing, and we
were crying laughing, right, And they thought that we were
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like crazy people, right, But that's our way of coping
with right humor. But Bobby, did Jesus did you ever
have a moment though where you actually were able to
release it in a different way like cry it out? No,
I still haven't do you want to do that today?
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I'm here, I don't want to do it right now, Okay,
I know, I'm just saying that it's there's there's no
you guys go now now I'm getting bad. I want
to get comeback up. That's fine. Can I get come
back up a little bit? Yeah? And I truly believe
this at the time, right, my brother failed to mention
that this guy had candy as well. Oh yeah, he
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gave out a little Starburst and he also the dipping
candy fund, right, so he that's how we would lure
the kids right to the to the area with the
houses and all that stuff. Right, but the kids would
go one time through their life. I went there every
day for three summers. What does this mean? Because I
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all I wanted was the candy, okay, right, So it's
like my thing wasn't about, oh, this guy's touching my penis.
I had addiction even back then, right like whatever, whatever,
I can't believe you're laughing, this is whatever. So whatever
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the at that time, it was like candy was my
drug and so whatever I have to do to get
to my drug fix, So that all being molested wasn't
really hurtful to me. I don't think. I think it
was just something that I did. It's like when people
women are heroin at it and they have sex so
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that then they can, you know, get money, do you
know what I remember. I think you're scratching the surface
of the depth molestation. I mean basically, you're saying molestation
was cool because you got I'm not saying I didn't
say that. Did I say cool? No? Cool with you?
You were cool at being molested because as long as
you got your fun dip, you were good. Listen there,
you listen to me, all right? You know like in
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Leaving Neverland, did you see it? You see it? I
didn't see it. Did so when you should see it,
I will. But these issues didn't come up for these
two boys until they had children of their own, right,
So who knows? Maybe when I have children of my
own one day and may maybe that's one of the
reasons why I don't have I don't have children. Okay,
(24:24):
so you don't want kids? No, I love the little
guy people, but maybe that's part typically you've never you
don't want children, at least that's what we've talked about.
I understand. But what is the root of that? That's
what I mean. You don't feel like you could protect
your information. It's like you have this way of I said, well,
you you, I mean innate, innately. Maybe there's a fear
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that you wouldn't be able to protect your children because
because you never felt protected I mean, or that you
aren't good enough to protect your own children. You know,
all of those kinds of things that if you I'm
not in an agreement. I just feel. I'm like, I
don't cry. Yes, you're going to cry. I feel so like,
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what a terrible that's terrible. Yeah, it is terrible. She's
gonna try. Okay, thank you for you know, so, I
do feel what you're doing. Man, you're making I just
feel like, yeah, it's real good things out I know
it is. It is terrible, you know what. You're right?
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It is terrible what you know? In her own house, man,
in her own freaking house. Man, this is supposed to
be fun. Here's what I think. It's bullshit because I've
been with you for two years now. We've talked about this.
I've said the same things that Katie has said. I
haven't cried. But you're just more accepting of the things
(25:51):
that she is saying. Is it because she's famous or
something that has nothing to do with that, because you
don't you're not tender? What Yeah, you're rough, She's tender
about it, Okay, And I believe her. I don't believe you.
When I look at her, I go, I believe look
at her eyes? Should I cry? You won't, You don't.
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You don't have to do don't don't do it. It'll
make it weird. It'll make it weird. Okay, So what's
the age difference? So you're like us, so you're super close.
But here's the thing. Here's another reason why my brother
and I work is because in the Korean custom, the
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older brother takes care of the siblings. It's just one
of those things. So you know, my brother, you know,
moved to l A. It's just the two of you,
it's the two of us, and he literally is like
having a kid. Yeah, I take care of him, you know,
like he doesn't ever have to worry. Do you give
him money? My brother money? Do you give your brother
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and stuff like that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Do you? And
are you cool with that or do you ever? I don't.
I'm not proud of that, and and I'm that's I'm
at a point now where I'm like, dude, like there's
no reason for that. That's why, Like I'm trying to
do my own podcast and like I'm trying to get
my own sponsorships and I'm trying to do music. It's
like yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I don't
take pride in that at all. No, do you make music? Yeah?
(27:23):
I do? Yeah, I do. Like what kind I did?
I record on like an eight track and I make
like beats. My brother, my brothers. I'll brack for him.
So he's in a band with you. I don't know
if you know David chow Is. He's the artist, right
and the money mark with the Beastie Boys, right, So
my brother's in a band with them. He's the lead singer.
Oh wow. And they toured what they did uh with?
(27:44):
They did shows with the word for the DJ what's
his name with the long hair? Oh? We did we open? Yeah,
we did a fashion week in New York. So weird
on tour and all that. Yeahyeah, I'm not on a
I mean they I mean, you know, Dave was funding,
but he's a great performer. When they're in l a's,
(28:09):
I like what you're doing. We're in the hiatus right now,
like everyone's kind of doing their own thing, you know.
So that's I like your tattoos. I just want to
say this to anyone watching right now that Stevie Lee
has some seriously my brother Actually, yeah, that's my art.
These are who who? Who did these tattoos? Are they
(28:30):
actually designed this? When I drew this one and then
just brought to and what about your e? What about
your E? Walk? Yeah it's yeah, it's a walk a tape.
Have you gotten Bobby Bobby's name yet? No? Yeah, I
have his career name here. Okay, so his initials Bobby
only and then so okay, and you have so now
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this is all of her and I do something you
want to get a tattoo and we're trying to not
with the family, brothers, sister, situationist. But do you guys
have to nick names or anything? I like that with
each other. I mean, my nickname is Bertie, but Bertie,
I've got to figure that out. But what I know
about all over on you is that he talks about
(29:13):
you so positively. I knew that you guys had such
a great relationship just by working with him for two years.
Can I say another thing about him? Yes? Can I
say something another thing about him? That when I did
the pilot with him, right, he saved my life Because
I'm not really I mean, I've I've been on sitcoms before.
I've been in movies, but I don't really you know,
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I to call myself an actor is crazy, right because
I'd never really taken a class. I don't really know
what I'm doing, right. So when I was doing the
pilot with him, right, Okay, no, I was agreeing something
I relate to that personally, I test well that personally
the wrong when you say you're not doing it the classes,
(29:57):
you're not really an actor. Like my insecure sy feels
the same way about me, right, Okay, I mean I
know enough to be in things, right, yes, but just
you know, to do like you know, I did this
movie with Ben Kingsley, right, and like I was, I
had lines with him and I was so petrified because
I could. I thought He's going to see right through
this fucking shit because I don't know what I'm saying, right.
(30:19):
But but Oliver, on the day of the pilot, he
pulled me aside and you got my head right, prol
you really did, because I go there was so many
it was a day where everyone showed well because I
related to him. And that's what I was saying before,
is I feel the same way my insecure self feels
the same way. I knew what he was going through
(30:40):
because I've been through the same ship that he was
going through. And now those things were like everyone's just
all the executive showed up and there was a thousand
people like behind video Villaine, right, and like, I, you know,
I'm scared because I hadn't worked in, like on a
show in four years or whatever. So in my head,
I'm like, I can't get fired, you know, right, And
then he just got my head wrapped around the idea
(31:01):
that it's okay to make mistakes. We're all human beings, right,
And then he shared some of his experiences with himself. Yeah, Okay,
is he being real? I think so? Maybe? Okay, yeah,
but it's hard to tell when Steve's being honest than
(31:25):
you like how he's emotive. I can't tell if he's
like telling the truth or you like it's a very
very aloof do you cry? I mean, do you get emotional?
He has two emotions, right, rage like you no, like,
do you ever see the movie being there? One of
my favorite but that's an act, Okay, I don't know what,
(31:51):
and but his other one is pure rage. And so
what you're seeing right now is the Chancey Gardner being there.
But what you don't don't see is the raging ball.
Where is that rage? Does that? Does that rage come
out on stage? It comes out in the weird you
know what. That's a good question. The music helps, yeah,
because it's an outlet, you know. But I mean on
(32:14):
the uber ride over here, we almost almost have to
pull over. Why we don't have to We're we're not
going to get into it, all right. But this also
brings me to something I know, which is you guys
have gotten into physical fights with each other? Do you
still get physical with each other? You know? We haven't
had a physical altercation in like many years. It sounds
like Stevie was really the number he was, but you
(32:36):
weren't you the number two wrestler? I was ranked two
in nineteen in the nineties. Okay, so I set up
a mat right now, who who would take? He would
destroy you, He would destroy your proby this dude right here, dude,
let me say something. I have the same rage because
it's what my dad has. But through years of conditioning
(32:58):
and just practicing, I can talk myself out of those
situations pretty ninety nine point nine percent of the time.
If you get me into the red zone, which is
so difficult. I might stay in it for twenty minutes, right,
but my brother gets there quickly, you know, because he
doesn't have you know, I'm doing therapy now. I've been
working on better. Yeah, I once better a nice Do
(33:23):
you think that's because of your relationship that you went in?
Did you that you're there's a whole lot. I mean
I'm slowly telling him stuff, but yeah, mostly I'm trying to,
you know, work on my age, my red zone. Yeah,
and so I'm trying, but it's not I'm not It's
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not a cure, overnight cure. Dude, are you at all
envious of his career and success? There's not an inkling
of like, god, well, I ask everyone possible. I'm like,
I kind of weird about you because Oliver was like
Oliver every podcast and every time people are like, no,
(34:05):
I'm so proud of my my sibling, and I'm like Oliver, see,
I am proud too. But in order but to deny
you're like that there's envy. No, you're like jeous obvious.
You know what. Now, there might be You're right, You're right,
there might be a little bit like I'm proud of you,
but like, fuck, I wish I could tell him, tell
them the Barry Cat's story. So you know Barry Kats is,
(34:34):
he's a manager. He's comedy manager, right, big, big comedy manager. Yeah,
big comedy manager. And I was sitting at the comedy
store years ago, maybe twelve fourteen years ago, and we're
in the patio of the comedy store and we're sitting
next to each other. Barry Cat's big guy, big jewish man,
walks up, Bobby, how are you. I'm like, oh, good,
you know, and he and I go, this is my
(34:54):
brother Steve. And Barry Cats said something, this is the
worst thing he could ever Could I do it? Yes?
So he's like it was good, meaning you and then
he starts walking away and he goes, so what's it
like living in your brother's shadow? Whoa? So geez. He
didn't say it like that, but he said those words perception.
(35:16):
He said, try to do it in a joke. So
what's it like, you know? Living? You know that? And
then I looked at my brother's hands and this is
what I see the rage for the zero it like this,
Yeah that's Alison. It was too much? Does it hurt?
(35:39):
I'm so sorry like that, but I had to do that. Yeah,
one of my questions I have is who's the louder sibling?
And this is what I'm I'm getting at. I think
you're the louder sibling. But then if it's that moment
where he goes one to a hundred in his rage,
that he might then be much louder than you ever are. Yeah, yeah,
that's a that's a very fair assessment. Okay. And now
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in your family, so was your mom loud too? Okay?
So they were both, So both your mom and your
dad were quite outspoken and expressive. Yeah, I mean my
mom is the funny one, although my dad's funny in
his own way. My mom is the type of woman
(36:23):
to be in a mall and go I pick a
nap now, and she'll just lay in the middle of
the mall and fall asleep like she doesn't know social
like right, and then like like you know how, like
you go to a mall there's like a pool, like
like a fountain. My will to take her shoes off
and just wait around in the film like that's not
what it's there for. It's not a pool for your feet,
(36:45):
you know. So my mom is like that and then
she's also just very every girlfriend that's ever met My
mom goes, oh, that's where you get it from my
situation with Oliver and all my brothers. And excuse my
scabs on my feet, it's because I'm athletic and I
wasn't looking at her. I was, yeah, but well because
(37:08):
there was like a stick model thing happening your your feet,
you also your feet. Yeah, I have good feet. I
love your feet. But it's not that wasn't but that
was observed girls. Okay, so you would stare at their
(37:28):
feet a man? All right, man, this is oh so
you really do you have a feet? He has a feet.
He has a personal feet thing. Oh, he's like obsessed
with it. Yeah, like when he was younger, he would
have girls and then they wouldn't they wouldn't mess around,
and then he would be like like repressed, and then
he would stay up all night just staring at their feet.
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Oh you didn't know this. Would you like to? Would
you like to smell Kate's feet? Oliver, I don't don't
want to smell that. I'm not in that. This is crazy.
I'm not like that for you not to smell. I'm
gonna smell guy, you would you like to like correct
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the tops of her foot like nod? Force him to
do it? Will you just do it? I'm not I'm
not gonna he wants he wants to. I'm gonna smell
(38:33):
white American flash. Yeah, okay, you got that. This is
so funny. Okay, wait, okay, wait who makes mom laugh
the most? You? Are you sure? Yeah? He's accepting it.
(38:55):
He's accepting What about Dad? Him? So? Okay? So so
Bobby is the funny He's way more extroverted. Yeah, and
who do you think is the favorite child? No? No,
I'm getting a headshake from I tell you why. I
don't think. I think maybe I know Me and mom
were real close, man, me and mom? Of I know
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you guys are so close because you know what isn't
like I mean, it's in't like the sibling way, not
in like the reality like we know our parents all right,
But have you been envious of love? Like? No, I've
never been. And also when my dad got sick, obviously
because of my schedule, you know, I couldn't help in
that way, you know, like be physically there. But I
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sent my brother Arizona job, right, so my mother would
just go out there and stay in Arizona for months
at a time and do all those medical things that
my dad needed, like the ship, his ass and all that.
Did you have to do that? Well? I saw my
mom do it, right, you didn't do it, but I
lifted him up. Yeah, so you're kind of winning in
(39:59):
that to apartment and to like like dependability. Okay, how
do you guys feel about this statistic? Firstborns are generally
smarter than the younger siblings, having on average a three
point IQ advantage over the second siblings. No, no, I
feel about that. Yeah, I don't know he's smarter. I'm not. Well,
(40:21):
he's smart in his own way politically, he knows all
you know about like you know, the lizard aliens. See,
I got a better SAT score than him by ten points,
but if we if we did, I mean I got
a seven fifty, you got a seven sixty. No, first
of all, that's not what it was. No, it wasn't. Sorry,
that's like we basically spelt our name right. I got
an eight sixty, you got an eight seventy. So yeah,
(40:44):
that's not Actually you're still wrong. We're going to look
it up. You're still wrong. But but I think it's
possible that if we took an IQ test, which we
probably should, that I probably still would get ten points
higher than maybe you. I'm like with Bobby, I think
it's possible you might win. I'm I'm I'm deep. You
know what I mean. Deep has nothing to do with
(41:05):
IQ depth. You have an IQ depth has nothing to
do with that. There's emotional intelligence, and there's I think
I have high emotional intelligence. Not I have a high
e Q an emotional quotion. There's an actual EQ and
I Q. That's your next statistic. Oh, in one of
your fights, have you ever made the other one bleed? Oh?
(41:26):
My god, so many times. Okay, I figured if you
could do any other job, what would it be. Just
just snap your fingers. You don't have to be skilled
like I would love to be. Like just how my
my my buddy Dave cho Is. Just do art, do
art shows and travel the world. Have exhibits that'd be amazing,
(41:48):
sound experience, you know, paint stuff and people will like
really recognize it and appreciate it. Yeah, I'll buy that
for eight million doll you know, Like you know, it's
just like I just keep and then you just create,
You keep creating I love that. But that's crazy that
you can do that, Like that's what you're sort of doing.
I know, it's a different template. I could draw. I
don't know how to painting past. Yeah, but David Chow
(42:09):
was like you were. He was David, who's this artist?
Was telling my brother send me paintings. How many paintings
did you send them? Drawings? Hundreds? Right? Oh that was
like at the beginning. Yeah yeah, but little sketches. Yeah yeah,
he's got great sketches. Oh cool, I do it for fun.
So your brother wants to be an artist if he
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could have any other job? What about you, Bobby? Well,
I just got back in the Philippines and what we
did was we would take these little boats and go
to these because there's like nine thousand islands around the Philippines.
Was it amazing, fucking amazing. And we would go to
an island and there would be like a group of people,
like you know, people that live there and they would
make us food. And there was one island we went
(42:52):
to where Caly like was like, you know, this guy's
like was just on TV. He's like the best at
what they do and they basically they get food from
you know, shrimp and all the local things rise and
they put it beautifully on a table and everyone there's
no plates. You just eat it, you know what I mean.
I'll share like a communal kind of a thing. And
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the best meal I've ever had, so fresh. And I
always thought to myself, I thought to myself, then I
wish I was on an island and I was able
to cook things for people and make my make it
my own, you know what I mean. Because this guy
was like the ship. So I always thought, maybe that
would be a good job. You could do that. Yeah, yeah,
childhood crush. There was a tape at my parents' house.
(43:37):
There's a tape at my brother, cassette tape at my parents' house.
Don't you dare say that right here and you could
hear my brother as a kid. Don't do it. Whatever
you're thinking about doing, please don't say it. For forty
five minutes. This is what you hear. You push play.
I love you, Drew barry More. I love you, Drew
barry More. I love you, d barry More. I love
you Drew barry More. I love you Drew Barrymore. I
(43:58):
love you d barry More. I love you, I love
you very More so Drew Barrymore, I think with him. Yeah, right,
Can I just say this too, it's Drew Berry Moore
because this is in the early eighties, so when she
was on Firestarter or et Drew Barrymore three. But okay,
(44:18):
so what was his childhood crush? Do you remember Nicole
Eggert Oliver is projecting he loved that one? Right? You
didn't have Phoebe Kate's. You didn't know. I didn't have
I didn't have anything you had. No, you know, because
in the eighties I was drinking and doing drugs and
all that kind of stuff, and I was doing a
(44:38):
lot of gay things back then that I was just
so just just lost. I didn't have the same childhood
like you know, fantasies like Drew Barrymore. Mine was a
psych out of survival. Really. Okay. One of these things
is I just think you guys are very open. So
something moved the foot just put wrong. Okay, what physical
(45:03):
feature are you most proud of of my own? Yeah?
Hard question, because I live in this body. I have
no idea. Yeah, I ever looked at my body and went,
oh that's the thing. Never never, Yeah, these are the
things we got to work on. You what about what
about the opposite of physical feature? You're just like, this
is just a disaster for me. Have you heard of
(45:26):
a hegemonics or a hegeomony? Is that the right word? Hoo? Yeah? Where, No,
it's it's what the culture shows, what's a good looking
man is through media and guys like my brother and
I were never like, you know, especially Asian males in Hollywood,
we're never viewed as a sexual, you know, being you know,
(45:47):
I think now they're slowly doing that, but back in
the day, you have to imagine in the eighties, you know,
if you were to say, who are your Asian role
models in media? Right, there's Bruce Lee and then there's
Pat Marita. Oh, long duck dog, long duck dong. I
mean you have three options, right, So, you know, we
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don't we have a weird you know, growing up in America.
In America, I was born here, I'm an American citizen,
and I have to say that, you know, my girlfriends
have all been very attractive and sexy, you know, but
you know, but you know, I've never felt like I
was ever like, you know, a good looking guy. I
know I'm cute, I know I test well you do.
(46:29):
I do everything, I may, I test well, you know
the audience likes me. But I know that when I
go on stage already I can feel the audience we
like him. Even as an open micer, I could feel that.
That's because I'm sexually non threatening. Right. They always say
in stand up comedy, the worst, you know, the hardest
(46:52):
is when you're good looking. Okay, really quick, here's a
more of a speed round. But we're gonna do Would
they choose? But you're going to answer this for your brother.
This is Bobby Lee talking about his brother Steve Lee.
Would he choose? Well, I know the answer to this one. Now.
Would he choose the power of invisibility or the power
(47:13):
to fight my brother? Would I think? Choose the power
of invisibility? All right? Got one right? Okay? Would he
live in medieval times as a royal or in future
times as a cyborg? Future times is a sure cyborg? Yeah?
Can I do him instead of Bobby? Right? I wouldn't
want to be infused as a robot into technology, So
(47:36):
you would go back in time in medieval times, and
I wouldn't want to be a robot, braveheart, Yeah, I
wouldn't want to be a robot. That's all I know.
Fantasy or science fiction. Fantasy, but you don't want to
be a robots? I find no. But there's other aspects
of science fiction. I was just going with the fucking
(47:56):
science fiction. There's a lot of contradiction here, I agree. Yeah, okay.
Beach or mountains beach Yeah, nice. Beetles are rolling stones
beetles all day? Yeah, yes, Tupac or Biggie Tupac. I
like them about the same. Tupac to West Coast, Yeah yeah.
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Infinite power or infinite wealth, infinite wealth. I guess they're
both relative. Yeah, okay, I guess you're right. Unicorn or mermaid,
to make love to to be? Yeah, Olive garden or
red lobster. Olive garden, red lobster. You've have you? Have
you been? Pasta? Pasta olive oil. I don't like their bread, alright,
(48:44):
they're known for their bread. Sports car escalade, any car.
I'll take a Corolla at this point. Woodstock sixty nine
or Woodstock ninety nine. I like that one. That's a
good one. One sixty nine. Yeah, LSD S all right, Okay,
(49:06):
it's your brother's turn invisibility or power to fight invisibility. Okay,
what about this? What about invisibility or flying? Flying? Yep,
you gotta say yes, yes, Bobby says yes, yes, Okay.
Would Bobby like to live in a castle slash mansion
or a high rise apartment mansion castle mansion? Yeah. Appetizer
(49:31):
or dessert. Oh, he's an appetizer. Yeah, all day every day.
What it is like eight, all day every day? Yeah.
Beach or mountains? Beach Yeah? Yeah, you said, yeah, I'll
never come to Colorado. I don't care how many times
you invite me. You do not want to be a
part of the mountain. I'll never go. Yeah, I know
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that's that's a fact. I know it will never go
to the mountains. So your summer, winter, summer or winter
for him? Yeah, summer. If he had to lose an
arm or a leg, would it be the arm or
would it be the leg? It would be a leg. Yeah.
Because he does stand up, he can he you know,
he needs both hands. I think that's a good joke.
(50:13):
By the way. Oh yeah, because he does stand up,
he lose a leg. It is a good joke. Definite
power or infinite wealth power? Ooh, I like that. You
guys are different. That it's interesting. Weal Unicorner Mermaid, Murman, Mermaid, Murrhman.
You jet ski or wave runner jet ski? Yeah, yeah,
(50:39):
you do know. Jet ski you need to sit down
and just push a button. Then the wave Runner's got
to stand up. And there's a whole situation that goes on.
Headphones or boombox, headphones from him, sports car escalade, sports
car yep. And then you know, what about you? For
Woodstock sixty nine or Woodstock ninety nine, he would do
(51:00):
sixty nine. Yeah, that's that question. I don't think anyone
would pick ninety nine. Hey, guys, who's the most sensitive?
I think you're more sensitive than I am. Yeah, I
think I'm more sensitive. Ye. Yeah. But I want to
say this. I mean, I know we're not ending right
now at this very second, but I wanted to kind
of express how I really do feel about my brother.
Is that that I only honestly at the end of
(51:25):
the day, Let's say I died in those chapters in
my book, my brother would be half the book. You know.
He is the only one, aside from my parents and
my maybe Krlila, that I truly love from every sense
of my being. Like for me, it's like I mean,
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God forbid anything happened to my brother, I honestly don't
know how I would be able to even function in life.
I mean it would be like, you know, people could
die and I would be hurt him specifically, it would
be so you know, devastating that I just would not
be able to function. You know, I love him more
(52:08):
than anything really, and that's why when we fight, it
gets really emotional, it gets you know, combat of but
and you know, at the end of the day, it's
like he's a part of me. You know, he we have.
We come from the same blood, and we come from
the same you know, our parents and him. He's the
longest person I've ever known. I knew him from I'll
(52:32):
show you a photo. Let's not do this, and Steve,
you should start. You've got to prepare your side of
this right now. So think about the beautiful things that
you're going to say to Bobby, because he just when
he was born. And this is me looking at my
brother's hand right going you know, all I ever wanted
(52:55):
was all And then that's me and my brother. That's
me and Steve, you know, right Steve right here see
me holding my little brother. Steve. You know, me and Steve,
like he's my best friend. He's uh, this is high school,
you know. I know what I'm wearing my head, but
like you know what I mean. But so my my
brother and I he is from a part of my life,
(53:20):
you know, and you know I will always at the
end of the day, we'll take care of him. There's
he'll never struggle, He'll never you know. That's what it is.
You know, I mean, that's what it is. Go ahead,
go ahead that I mean no, to be honest, like
(53:42):
I wish my sister would say something like that to me.
Yeah you want me to, I can totally do that,
but I just I'm too emotional. I'll just start crying. Okay,
you could start it, you could start it off, but
you have to finish. Okay, Well, I'll just hate it
about Oliver in the mok you can add it. And right,
(54:03):
I feel that I feel the same way, although I'm
not good at uh expressing you know, like my how
much you mean to me? You know, And I know
I've like in a way I've you know, just kind
of I haven't been in full gratitude many you know,
(54:24):
for some years as far as how like, how how
good you are to me, and and like I thought,
you know, through all this thing, I'm not going to
bring his name up, but I thought that you like
abandoned me, you know, like as far as like when
you're in the Philippines. But then when I realized that
you were actually like fighting for me, I was like
it really like I it like I kind of broke
(54:46):
up then, like as far as like, oh my brother,
like I thought that he like didn't have my best intentions.
I don't want to go into the story, but like
the whole time he was like fighting for me, like
so I could get my channel back and so I
could have you know what I'm saying. So but like
I but then but then I realized, like why did
(55:08):
I question that, you know? And so it was it's
one of those things as far as like why would
I question like this is blood. You can't fuck with blood,
you know, like where so you know him, He's the
best brother I could have ever asked for. And I
want to get to a point. I appreciate you you
helping me throughout the years, but like I want to
(55:30):
get to a point where you know, like as far
as monetarily, I could be self supporting as well, like
I don't. I'm not trying to, you know, live off
his dime. You know. That's why I'm like trying to
get these things going because in a way I feel
bad because he's catering towards my parents, and in a
way I feel shame because I'm unable to provide that,
(55:54):
but you know, he's doing it. So what I'm trying
to say is I, yeah, he's He's probably the best
brother anyone could ask for. And uh, I know we
fight a lot, but at the end of the day,
it's like, you know, I mean I have a you know,
this is like he's you know that blood is blood.
(56:15):
You know, you can't you know, like, no matter who
you meet throughout your life span, you can never replace that.
You especially this, you can't replace. There's you know, I
don't care if it's your best friend. It's like blood
is It's just there's a certain power and bond to that.
That's it's it's everlasting. You can't at least that's the
(56:38):
way we were raised. So yeah, yeah, if you were
to give advice to say brothers that didn't or weren't
talking or weren't connecting or like, what would that look like,
what would that be. I would just say, man like,
life is too short. We don't know how much time
(56:58):
we have on this planet or tomorrow's never promised, so
any day above ground is a good day. You should
really cherish the one. I know. This one thing you
don't do is you don't hold resent You don't hold
on to resentment. Resentment is the thing that eats its
own container. Like resentment, resentment, it's kind of like you're
(57:18):
you're drinking poison expecting the other person to die from
what you're doing. So that's the main thing that keeps
families apart. This is just my opinion, is resentment. And
you know that could be coupled with envy and jealousy
and all these other aspects, but the main thing I
think is resentment. I would say to life is short,
(57:39):
and you have to swallow your pride. You look at
your own inventory you're part in it, and then and
then make up because life is short. You should. If
it's family, there's no reason why you can't be in
touch unless that person murdered your kids or you know
what I'm saying, it's something horrific that's unforgivable. But Bobby,
(58:05):
it was going so well, I'm sorry. No, you're right
that resentment is huge. It's huge. It will destroy you,
and it's and it's we will won't end up drinking
and doing drugs if we don't deal with resentment. That's
the thing that is our downfall. We're right. Essentially, the
resentment is suicidal. Yeah, and attempting to it's a version
(58:26):
of contempt. That was really beautiful you guys. I think
you said gratitude, like I think it's just such a
great thing to say, Oh, yeah, did that feel good
to hear he did it? It felt good? Yeah, because
he doesn't. We don't, don't, you know, don't have that
kind of I think, yeah, that's thank you for doing that,
(58:46):
because we haven't had that kind of yeah, like that
interaction in years. It's not it's not an easy thing
to do, noial and because there's there's also so much emotion.
I mean, you know, they say, and I could into
all the stats and stuff, but like we've spent the
most time with each other than anybody in our family.
I mean, that's just what it is. So you guys
(59:08):
are super super close and well, no, but most siblings,
that is just most siblings. So you guys spent more
time with each other than anybody else, your partners or
any I mean, like anybody else. And and so when
you start to actually communicate to that person, like from
a real vulnerable place, you're like, oh my god, it's
(59:32):
beautiful that you can even say those things. And I'm
just learning to honestly, because it's not easy for me
to do what you guys did, to sit across from
Kate and just say that openly and honestly without fear,
you know, And that's his personal fear of judgment and
fear of Look now I'm freaking out later on the
net and be like, you did that at Kate Hudson's house,
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you know, the one that was almost famous Kate Hudson.
Now that that's snakeskin. Yeah, that like that whole thing
you did that, Steve, What did you do? Yeah? Then
my head's gonna be it's gonna be like a hamster wheel,
like why did you do it? Why did you? Fine?
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You're great? All right? We like to go nineties hip
hop style? Are we freestyling for real? Right now? Oh? Yeah,
I'll do all right? Do you want a nose vibe?
Here we go waiting for the beat well, Kogi is
my meat street meat fleet week, screwing guys with big feet.
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I don't want to be cool, but I'm the man
who's going to crossroads school. I learned to educate. I
go on a few dates and then I found one
girl who I called my mate, and little Ray is here.
I got the sharp spear coming through. You need to
open up your ear because I got a lot of
fear growing through my heart. Yes, I strite start to depart,
(01:01:01):
then I pull apart the parts like a god dang motor.
I don't give a fuck. I got the straight soldier
type of mentality in my straight brain, insaying in the
brain like I'm Cypress Hill. When I got the feel
and I need to chill and I need to not kill.
I got the rage streaming through my eyebrows. I keep
going because I'm headed towards the clouds. When I look
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up to this guy, then I look up to the ground,
heaven or hell. Yes, I am a damn clown, profound
ricochetan thoughts in my mind state. I'm not claiming that
I'm great, but I'm hanging out with Kate Hudson and Allie.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah why do you cover
your eyes? Oh? Oh that was fun. We have one
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more question because there's a charity aspect to your fil
So Kate and I have a ten thousand dollars bet.
Throughout this season we are asking our guests and you
have to answer honestly. No feelings are going to get hurt.
But after and and and the winner the ten thousand
dollars will go to the charity of our choice of
one of ours choices. So after this podcast throw away
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all you knowing me and everything else, who do you
like better? Myself or Kate? Just relate to just generally
vibe like you know I honestly, Kate, really yeah? Yeah?
(01:02:26):
Can I tell you it's fine saying there's no hard
feeling it was my feet. It's not just no, it
wasn't just the feat, right, It's just that, you know,
she seems like somebody that I can trust more, Okay,
somebody that like, you know, like, like, here's what I think.
Kate has projected a wonderful motherly figure. And I think
(01:02:51):
that you have found a mother figure in her if
you wanted to make love to her feet. I don't
know about likeness, but I have to be honest I
fear you guys both. Okay, but who do you like
the most? Both of you? Guys? It's hard. You don't
you're there's there's no there's there's there's no hurting feelings either.
It's just it's just an over gotta be hous. I
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feel a little bit more comfortable with all of our Yeah,
but but it's because I because I fear you so much,
because I'm like, I can't go down step. He's a
star too, but I'm not. Yes, yeah, but he's a
yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but don't doubt Yeah.
I guess he gets sensitive. So I just want to
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say something I loved every hour we sat here together.
Love meaning you, I love you, right. Yeah. We're bringing
in the family psychologists, so you guys can sling. We
can do I'll read you. Yeah. You know, I think
my brother and I you know, I think it maybe
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is a cultural thing being Korean or whatever, but we're
very real. I mean, we we don't really. If we
feel it, we'll say it. And so you know, everything
we've talked about is stuff that we feel and we've
talked about before. We're not uncomfortable pop. Yeah, I think
that being with you two really was very comfortable because
(01:04:15):
we were a little nervous about how that was gonna go.
But it went splendidly and I really enjoyed myself. You know, Yeah,
I have to mean I was nervous at first, but
I'm not nervous right now. Yeah you're not. Yeah, yeah,
I was chilling freestyle and at the end, thank you God.
(01:04:36):
Sibling Revelry is executive Gruce by Kate Hudson, Alira Hudson,
and sim Sarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is
Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.
H I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Ravalry, No, no, sibling.
Don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good. So
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Bobby and Steve Lee are Today's guests, and they're hilarious. Yea, amazing.
They had us laughing most of the time, but then
it did also get serious. I lost it in this episode.
Oh god, it was beautiful. I mean it was really so.
It ran the gamut. I mean, because Bobby is an
insane person and he's gotten foot fetish and he's hysterical,
(01:02):
so is Steve. Steve is equally is funny and insane.
But when they had to sort of talk to each
other about what they loved about each other and what
they wished for each other, it was like I was crying.
That was beautiful. Well. I also got really emotional because
of the way that Bobby handles his situations in his
(01:26):
life that have happened. You know, he talks, he talks
very openly about being molested as a kid, but he
is funny about it, and he kind of you and
I just couldn't handle it. I just know, well, I mean,
obviously he's covering up a lot of pain. Yeah, it
just hit me, remember, and I really had a moment
with it. Will you guys judge for yourself, But how
(01:47):
much pain is Bobby Lee actually covering up? But I
really love them talking about their parents, how their parents met,
their relationship with their parents, San Diego. They grew up
in southern California, and they are both wrestlers, They both
do stand up comedy, both addicts, both addicts. They are
(02:08):
just so supportive of each other's careers. Especially Steve. He
just revered Bobby. It was really sweet. Anyway, you'll not
want to miss Steve's cowboy rap. My god. That's right.
So here's Bobby and Joy. Before we start this episode,
(02:32):
I just want to send Oliver and my condolences to
the Lee family after we interviewed them. Their father passed
away and so we are sending love and light. Okay.
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So I do all like the heavy lifting and the
reading and then all of her free freestyles. That's kind
of how this is. That's kind of how this is.
That's like how you do yours. You don't research much.
Right now, I don't do really any because when I do,
I funk it out. Can I swear on this? Is it? Yeah?
Oh god? Yeah? So what I know about you guys
now is that what you're the older brother Bobby, you're
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the younger brothers. You you basically followed in every single
one of his footsteps in terms of wrestling, because you
wrestled as well. And how do you know that? And
because she does research read so much? Did right? Oh? Big? Okay?
(03:39):
So you she knows so many things about you and
so and then you also then got into comedy. I
took a crack at it, and you had already gotten
into comedy. I was in comedy, and then he started
many many years later. And then he opened for me
in it. We don't have to get into that. I'm
(04:00):
going to bring it out, Okay. He opened for me
in Arizona the Temple Improv. He ate it so bad. No,
was this your first gig? No? He had been doing
open mics around l A. I choked so hard. Remember
your opening. It was like the worst dream you could have.
You remember your opening first. So firstly, it was a
(04:25):
fourth of July or New Year. It was one of
those shoes. It was packed like the the Pladium. The
upstairs was, everything was. It was at the Palladium. It's
the about right. The balcony was. The balcony was full. Okay,
it's a full house. I got a bloody nose walking
(04:49):
up to the stage because the altitude maybe or Arizona.
And then I was like, I try to like below
sea level, try there, okay. And so the one thing
he gave me pointers before I actually went on stage,
(05:10):
he goes, I love you, try your best. The one
thing I'm asking to do is engage with the crowd,
acknowledge them. And that's the main thing I didn't do.
So I walked up there and then I was like,
I had a cowboy bit? Where do the bit? I do?
I do a song where it's like a cowboy trying
(05:33):
to do like make it in the rap game. And
I was like, I had this thing called like forty
dollars bitter. So I was like, forty dollars better forty dollars,
you know, bit by bit bye, you know, forty dollars better,
forty dollars better forty I'll put your face in the manure.
My brain is the computer. You know you messed with
my style. I get my cousin couter, you know, like
I kept going, it was I did this whole rap.
I was just and then I like, I was like
(05:54):
forty dollars bitty, but there's no jokes. There's no joke
like for it. And then like I get done with
my wrap, you know, and then and then I like
look up and it was like like a sea of silence.
And I remember one lady in the front row like
she was crossing her legs like this, like oh no, oh,
(06:19):
now is it. That's why I feel like stand up
comedy is like when you get up there, there's gonna
be a moment as a stand up comedian that you're
going to choke, You're gonna bomb. People aren't necessarily going
to you know, you're gonna have an off day. But
let's go back for a second, because I want to
want to go back into the like like like birth,
what part of Korea were you born in? I love it?
(06:44):
But that was a good one, good job. But I
told you, you know, I already told you you already know, right,
And he brings it up on set, He'll say he's
North Korean. Talk about North Korea. You know what I mean,
and I'm always like, I'm not North Korean. I know
you get what you're talking about. You also like to
bring up my love life. I do. We're going to
(07:04):
talk about all of this. Yeah, but no, for real,
where were you guys born? I was born in San Diego,
and so was my brother San Diego sharp hospital, one hospital, sharps,
other brothers, other brothers and sisters. I'm still nervous. This
is the whole time. I'm right, you're doing steep, steep, steep.
(07:24):
Live in the moment. I know you're killing You're doing well. Okay,
So you were born in San Diego, just the two
of you. Now your parents? Oh yeah, okay, so parents parents.
I know they had a store. They were in the
garment industry, fashion, fashion, gown. But let's talk about were
(07:47):
they born in America? The parents? Okay, So my parents
were both born in Korea. They lived during the Korean
War as children, and they didn't meet in Korea. They
met in a nightclub in l A in the late sixties.
And the reason why they talked to each other, from
what my dad says, they were the only ones that
knew Korean in the club, like everyone else was white,
(08:09):
so they just kind of looked at my dad just
looked at the only Korean that was there and just
walked up during You know, that's not how I remember it. Okay,
So what was your recollection of this club? What is
he talking about? I don't know where my mom my
dad stocked my mom. Oh, the stalking would later, I
don't I didn't know about the man and the nightclub
(08:30):
and then dad stalked mom. And did mom feel the mom?
Mom left the state because of my dad. Yeah, because
he was like from Kimchi too, not kimchi, but he
stot he followed her to like the Midwest, somewhere Delaware,
wiscons Wisconsin to say it, okay, sorry, let me just say,
(08:51):
because you don't know the information, all right, you're just
making it up. No, I'm not making it up. There's
no Mom told me. Mom told me to, Mom told
me to. I'll is there was there was there not kimchi?
Was there? No kimchi? Fact, I don't know exactly. Let's
get Bobby's perception of mom and dad meeting and the
(09:11):
process up to when she actually said yes in like
a couple of sentences, and then we're gonna get Steve's perception.
Kate Hudson, May I say something, Kate Hudson. The nightclub thing, right,
could have been something that I made up to embellish
(09:31):
the story he exaggerated. So there probably was Kimchi exactly.
There probably was, all right, what happened? All right? So
I'm not specifically I might have made that upright, So
let's put that aside, and I know, and to your
(09:52):
fans and to everyone in the room, I apologize. And
I'm owning up to my character defect. Okay, that about you.
Thank you. I'm like the most forgiving person on the planet.
Thank you. All right. So I think family members or
whatever knew my mom and dad and they were introduced
in that way. Okay, But I do know for a
(10:13):
fact that my mom left the state because my dad,
he's an alcoholic. So they they met and they dated
a couple of times. My dad get got aggressive or
was a little She didn't like him. I know that,
and I know that she was like, I got to
get the fuck out of here. So they she moved
to Wisconsin. My dad bought steak Omaha. I don't know
(10:38):
what where the state comes from, but I know that's
where all, he was conceived Nebraska. Yeh, the connections, yeah yeah.
And he went found out where she lived in Wisconsin,
knocked on the door and he had I know. And
it wasn't at night though, was like probably during the day,
and he had a slab of steak because Koreans love meat.
(11:00):
And then she went off, this guy got me steak, right,
that's that's like a dowry. It's like a big thing.
It's a big thing for Korean's. I guess, you know.
And then I don't know. I don't know, but I'm
just assuming. And then I guess she went I got
to give him another shot. And then he chilled. He realized,
you know, I have to like get this lady to
(11:22):
marry me before I act myself, so that if he
put on a thing, he thinks for a couple of
maybe a year and a half, they get married. And
then he went crazy. Stevie, can't I got it, Stevie,
go no, I'm I I am agreeing with him. I
thought it was kim chi. I didn't know it was meat.
I didn't know that's what it was. I thought it
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was He didn't go the meat too, so he didn't.
So I'm not lying, but I'm gonna call my mom.
I'm not lying about them. Or maybe maybe maybe your
dad brought kim chi instead of steak. No, he didn't.
Because my brother doesn't know what he's talking about. I
asked why. I like you. That's what I'm saying. But
it makes sense because he knew that he knew that
your dad brought her. Can I just say something real
(12:05):
quick before we even continue. I just need you, all right.
My brother is playing a game with you. I'm not
playing anything you are. I'm so scared right now. Man,
this is crazy. Hey Bobby, how do you do How
do you know? I'm not playing? This is crazy? You're
not playing because I know you. No, you don't. I know,
but not in this setting. I don't know you in
the setting, but I kind of know the foundation that
(12:28):
you you live by and the house they built, you know,
not on sand but on concrete, and I don't know what.
You don't have to stand up, you could sit down,
you don't have to stand I think it's authority. I
kind of I have a general idea and feeling about you,
and I think that you're a good dude. I am
thank you and I love you. I found this out later.
But my dad, like he drank a lot, he was
(12:49):
running three clothing stores. But he also had a very
very very bad temper. And I didn't find this out
till later. But like later he uh, I guess he
was like chasing my mom down the hallway and then
like she had a barricade the door. You know, I
mean this guy was he was a red zone like abusive,
(13:11):
like Genghis Khan. Was it abusive? Oh yeah, okay, yes, yes, yes,
So I didn't find that out. My mom has a tooth,
but I didn't know, like they didn't explain that to
me until later in life, like in my thirties or whatever.
She has a missing back replaced, knocked her out, knocked
her mouth out. Back in the day, back when there
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was like you know, pioneers and people that lived in
the frontier or whatnot, you would get married, right, so
you wouldn't necessarily go, I'm marrying this woman because she's
hot and she's got a great personality. No, she has
the body to mow the plow with the cow or
you know what I mean. And and she's sturdy, right,
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and those kind of things were mixed into it, and
my parents once they got married, it was like a
lifelong you know, no matter what matter. But that's what
we We had a conversation on set the other day,
and that's what you believe. You're like when you get married,
that's it. I'm so sick of all of these people
not being together. And I was like, well, what if
you're unhappy? What if you're falling out of love? And
(14:16):
you were like, that's bullshit. You stick together no matter what.
Are you married? Oh no, no, no, no, you have
a girlfriend. You have a girlfriend two years years. Okay,
So you were first born in San Diego? When did
your parents? Do they have a lot of sex? Did
they have a lot of sex prior to conceiving you? Yeah,
(14:37):
but I would assume it was not the kind of
sex that you and I partake in. Okay, yeah, I
think it's like stomach oh believe yeah, she's what I
don't I want to look at your eye? Right? No? Right?
And she laid on the stop squeeze it together? Right?
(15:02):
Can I just you know, have some space? No, squeeze together,
might smooth right? And then and then she's he's just
like like a rabbit, you know what I mean? Right,
it's one of those kind of things. Yeah, I don't
(15:23):
think it was like, you know, a candle, right, let's
put on some let's put on like roxy music avalon right. Yeah,
it's more like your mom probably had not enjoyable whatsoever
for I don't. I don't see it that way. I
think my dad's more of old school. Okay, do you
think like a prison? Do you think, and this goes
(15:44):
to the esoteric, do you think the way you were
conceived maybe sort of like dictates who you are now
as a person. I think my brother and I are
lucky in the sense that you know, when you're in
an environment like that, A lot of people, I mean,
my brother and I turned to drugs. That's why I've
been sober. My brother had been so first. Who was
into drugs first? The other thing that was interesting he
(16:07):
was he went to rehab, then you went to rehab. Yeah,
there's an interesting statistic. Kids who have older siblings who
smoke or drink are twice as likely to do basically
the same thing. So do you blame your brother for
those That's a real question though. Do you do you
(16:31):
find that because you look did you look up to Bobby?
You still do? Right? You still do. So, did you
see him going down this path and want to mimic him?
Maybe maybe even unconscious subconsciously you know. No, No, although
because I remember going to the rehab and ocean side
and like going into the room and walking around the facility,
and we had family week at the McDonald Center, and
(16:52):
so I like I knew better, but I was in
such pain when I choked at the state tournament that
that was like the only thing I could like that
would bring me. My brother was rade a student. It
was a church dude. Yeah. He had Bible study message
like passages from the Bible, and I had, Yeah, I
had passages of the Bible in my room because our
house was haunted to bro like in Poway. It was
(17:13):
like Kevin Spacey's house in like that seven D. There
was just like burial ground like you lived. The house
was on like this plot of like an Indian bear
or something. Because they try to possess me. Was they
oh yeah, did you see an entity? They held me down?
I was, I had Bible versus they held me down
and then Who's day? Who's day? The spirits? Did you
(17:36):
see them? No? But they held me that I couldn't
count move, but then then I say sleep, peralysis, sleep,
and then I heard yeah, and then the whispers, the whispers, interesting,
I can you know all about this? Right? Well, that's
the yeah that I did, I guess. So there's there's
a couple of reasons for that, Like there's the scientific
(17:57):
reason that people would tell you what it is, and
then there's like people who really believe in things like
you and I do. Yeah, there's another reason for that too,
which is a whole other podcasts. But wow, that's crazy.
I did experience it. But because I started doing drugs
at the age of eleven twelve, I was doing math
at thirteen, right, I went to many institutions before I
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even went to high school. Really, you know, me just
lock up units. So he was supposed to wrestle his
senior year one hundred and twelve pounds. Yeah yeah, and
I couldn't do it, and so of the wrestling coach
like shoun, like he treated him like it was dead. Yeah. Yeah.
So it's like, you know, is it drug fueled paranoia?
Is it real? I mean I don't really know. So
it's like, you know, I believe what I felt, and
(18:45):
I feel like I was possessed and I got up
from my bed and I ran to the swimming pool
because in a simple pool, and I jumped in the
pool to get myself out and it woke me up. Wow, right,
but I was literally like being posassed. And then I
because I asked my mom and later in life like
and they're like, oh, yeah, we had a it was
only on that side of the house, but they like
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would park the car and then run to their master
bedroom like there was like something going on on that
side of the house. Man telling, did you guys have love?
I mean, did your parents love you? I mean, did
you feel love from your from your parents? You did?
My dad would stay in the sober you know, he
would look and go, I love you and then he
would like kiss you on the cheek or whatever. I mean,
obviously there is love. But my dad had untreated alcoholism
(19:32):
and he's still not sober. I mean, he he has
a stroke. So even in his state, he's still drinking anymore. No,
he can't drink. He can't drink now because my mom
controls everything, right, But if he hadn't had the stroke,
he would still be drinking at least beer or whatnot,
you know, But like, uh, all day, yeah, all day. Yeah, yeah,
my mom. I remember my mom would uh she would
(19:54):
set aside like five Miller Lite cans of beer and
then he like the bloody beers where he would mix
klamata with it, and she would like have that in
the freezer too to prep up his his like little Yeah,
she basically did. Yeah, it was you know, but the
way my brother and I survived, yes, through drugs and alcohol,
(20:15):
but we also survived through humor, right, I mean him
and I were jokesters, and I think in that aspect,
I guess it's a defense mechanism. But we didn't turn
out to be like thugs or like, you know, bad people.
We have a lot of issues. I mean I know
my brother inside and now, and we both have the
same kind of issues. But once I got sober, I
(20:38):
was able to go, all right, what do I want
to do with my life? And that's why when I
was twenty three, I tried open mic night at it.
So you started using when you were really young? Yeah,
like really young? Yeah? And were you old enough to
understand that you were abusing something or yeah? I mean
I was molested I think when I was nine, and
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then in Minnesota we did this thing called knees to
knees where all the kids that's in rehab, their parents
would come and everyone would come at one time, and
we'd be in like an auditorium and we'd form a
circle and in the middle of the circle were two
chairs and that like you would be obviously I'm impatient,
and you would go knees to knees with your dad, right,
(21:25):
And I told him, I go, and my brother was there,
and my mom was there, and I told me that,
you know, when I was nine, I was molested by
a guy with Down syndrome. And my dad goes, he
starts laughing, and then my brother started laughing. Then my
mom started laughing, and then I started laughing, and we
were crying laughing, right, And they thought that we were
(21:46):
like crazy people, right, But that's our way of coping
with right humor. But Bobby, did Jesus did you ever
have a moment though where you actually were able to
release it in a different way like cry it out? No,
I still haven't do you want to do that today?
(22:12):
I'm here, I don't want to do it right now, Okay,
I know, I'm just saying that it's there's there's no
you guys go now now I'm getting bad. I want
to get comeback up. That's fine. Can I get come
back up a little bit? Yeah? And I truly believe
this at the time, right, my brother failed to mention
that this guy had candy as well. Oh yeah, he
(22:34):
gave out a little Starburst and he also the dipping
candy fund, right, so he that's how we would lure
the kids right to the to the area with the
houses and all that stuff. Right, but the kids would
go one time through their life. I went there every
day for three summers. What does this mean? Because I
(22:55):
all I wanted was the candy, okay, right, So it's
like my thing wasn't about, oh, this guy's touching my penis.
I had addiction even back then, right like whatever, whatever,
I can't believe you're laughing, this is whatever. So whatever
(23:20):
the at that time, it was like candy was my
drug and so whatever I have to do to get
to my drug fix, So that all being molested wasn't
really hurtful to me. I don't think. I think it
was just something that I did. It's like when people
women are heroin at it and they have sex so
(23:40):
that then they can, you know, get money, do you
know what I remember. I think you're scratching the surface
of the depth molestation. I mean basically, you're saying molestation
was cool because you got I'm not saying I didn't
say that. Did I say cool? No? Cool with you?
You were cool at being molested because as long as
you got your fun dip, you were good. Listen there,
you listen to me, all right? You know like in
(24:02):
Leaving Neverland, did you see it? You see it? I
didn't see it. Did so when you should see it,
I will. But these issues didn't come up for these
two boys until they had children of their own, right,
So who knows? Maybe when I have children of my
own one day and may maybe that's one of the
reasons why I don't have I don't have children. Okay,
(24:24):
so you don't want kids? No, I love the little
guy people, but maybe that's part typically you've never you
don't want children, at least that's what we've talked about.
I understand. But what is the root of that? That's
what I mean. You don't feel like you could protect
your information. It's like you have this way of I said, well,
you you, I mean innate, innately. Maybe there's a fear
(24:47):
that you wouldn't be able to protect your children because
because you never felt protected I mean, or that you
aren't good enough to protect your own children. You know,
all of those kinds of things that if you I'm
not in an agreement. I just feel. I'm like, I
don't cry. Yes, you're going to cry. I feel so like,
(25:08):
what a terrible that's terrible. Yeah, it is terrible. She's
gonna try. Okay, thank you for you know, so, I
do feel what you're doing. Man, you're making I just
feel like, yeah, it's real good things out I know
it is. It is terrible, you know what. You're right?
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It is terrible what you know? In her own house, man,
in her own freaking house. Man, this is supposed to
be fun. Here's what I think. It's bullshit because I've
been with you for two years now. We've talked about this.
I've said the same things that Katie has said. I
haven't cried. But you're just more accepting of the things
(25:51):
that she is saying. Is it because she's famous or
something that has nothing to do with that, because you
don't you're not tender? What Yeah, you're rough, She's tender
about it, Okay, And I believe her. I don't believe you.
When I look at her, I go, I believe look
at her eyes? Should I cry? You won't, You don't.
(26:13):
You don't have to do don't don't do it. It'll
make it weird. It'll make it weird. Okay, So what's
the age difference? So you're like us, so you're super close.
But here's the thing. Here's another reason why my brother
and I work is because in the Korean custom, the
(26:35):
older brother takes care of the siblings. It's just one
of those things. So you know, my brother, you know,
moved to l A. It's just the two of you,
it's the two of us, and he literally is like
having a kid. Yeah, I take care of him, you know,
like he doesn't ever have to worry. Do you give
him money? My brother money? Do you give your brother
(26:59):
and stuff like that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Do you? And
are you cool with that or do you ever? I don't.
I'm not proud of that, and and I'm that's I'm
at a point now where I'm like, dude, like there's
no reason for that. That's why, Like I'm trying to
do my own podcast and like I'm trying to get
my own sponsorships and I'm trying to do music. It's
like yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I don't
take pride in that at all. No, do you make music? Yeah?
(27:23):
I do? Yeah, I do. Like what kind I did?
I record on like an eight track and I make
like beats. My brother, my brothers. I'll brack for him.
So he's in a band with you. I don't know
if you know David chow Is. He's the artist, right
and the money mark with the Beastie Boys, right, So
my brother's in a band with them. He's the lead singer.
Oh wow. And they toured what they did uh with?
(27:44):
They did shows with the word for the DJ what's
his name with the long hair? Oh? We did we open? Yeah,
we did a fashion week in New York. So weird
on tour and all that. Yeahyeah, I'm not on a
I mean they I mean, you know, Dave was funding,
but he's a great performer. When they're in l a's,
(28:09):
I like what you're doing. We're in the hiatus right now,
like everyone's kind of doing their own thing, you know.
So that's I like your tattoos. I just want to
say this to anyone watching right now that Stevie Lee
has some seriously my brother Actually, yeah, that's my art.
These are who who? Who did these tattoos? Are they
(28:30):
actually designed this? When I drew this one and then
just brought to and what about your e? What about
your E? Walk? Yeah it's yeah, it's a walk a tape.
Have you gotten Bobby Bobby's name yet? No? Yeah, I
have his career name here. Okay, so his initials Bobby
only and then so okay, and you have so now
(28:52):
this is all of her and I do something you
want to get a tattoo and we're trying to not
with the family, brothers, sister, situationist. But do you guys
have to nick names or anything? I like that with
each other. I mean, my nickname is Bertie, but Bertie,
I've got to figure that out. But what I know
about all over on you is that he talks about
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you so positively. I knew that you guys had such
a great relationship just by working with him for two years.
Can I say another thing about him? Yes? Can I
say something another thing about him? That when I did
the pilot with him, right, he saved my life Because
I'm not really I mean, I've I've been on sitcoms before.
I've been in movies, but I don't really you know,
(29:34):
I to call myself an actor is crazy, right because
I'd never really taken a class. I don't really know
what I'm doing, right. So when I was doing the
pilot with him, right, Okay, no, I was agreeing something
I relate to that personally, I test well that personally
the wrong when you say you're not doing it the classes,
(29:57):
you're not really an actor. Like my insecure sy feels
the same way about me, right, Okay, I mean I
know enough to be in things, right, yes, but just
you know, to do like you know, I did this
movie with Ben Kingsley, right, and like I was, I
had lines with him and I was so petrified because
I could. I thought He's going to see right through
this fucking shit because I don't know what I'm saying, right.
(30:19):
But but Oliver, on the day of the pilot, he
pulled me aside and you got my head right, prol
you really did, because I go there was so many
it was a day where everyone showed well because I
related to him. And that's what I was saying before,
is I feel the same way my insecure self feels
the same way. I knew what he was going through
(30:40):
because I've been through the same ship that he was
going through. And now those things were like everyone's just
all the executive showed up and there was a thousand
people like behind video Villaine, right, and like, I, you know,
I'm scared because I hadn't worked in, like on a
show in four years or whatever. So in my head,
I'm like, I can't get fired, you know, right, And
then he just got my head wrapped around the idea
(31:01):
that it's okay to make mistakes. We're all human beings, right,
And then he shared some of his experiences with himself. Yeah, Okay,
is he being real? I think so? Maybe? Okay, yeah,
but it's hard to tell when Steve's being honest than
(31:25):
you like how he's emotive. I can't tell if he's
like telling the truth or you like it's a very
very aloof do you cry? I mean, do you get emotional?
He has two emotions, right, rage like you no, like,
do you ever see the movie being there? One of
my favorite but that's an act, Okay, I don't know what,
(31:51):
and but his other one is pure rage. And so
what you're seeing right now is the Chancey Gardner being there.
But what you don't don't see is the raging ball.
Where is that rage? Does that? Does that rage come
out on stage? It comes out in the weird you
know what. That's a good question. The music helps, yeah,
because it's an outlet, you know. But I mean on
(32:14):
the uber ride over here, we almost almost have to
pull over. Why we don't have to We're we're not
going to get into it, all right. But this also
brings me to something I know, which is you guys
have gotten into physical fights with each other? Do you
still get physical with each other? You know? We haven't
had a physical altercation in like many years. It sounds
like Stevie was really the number he was, but you
(32:36):
weren't you the number two wrestler? I was ranked two
in nineteen in the nineties. Okay, so I set up
a mat right now, who who would take? He would
destroy you, He would destroy your proby this dude right here, dude,
let me say something. I have the same rage because
it's what my dad has. But through years of conditioning
(32:58):
and just practicing, I can talk myself out of those
situations pretty ninety nine point nine percent of the time.
If you get me into the red zone, which is
so difficult. I might stay in it for twenty minutes, right,
but my brother gets there quickly, you know, because he
doesn't have you know, I'm doing therapy now. I've been
working on better. Yeah, I once better a nice Do
(33:23):
you think that's because of your relationship that you went in?
Did you that you're there's a whole lot. I mean
I'm slowly telling him stuff, but yeah, mostly I'm trying to,
you know, work on my age, my red zone. Yeah,
and so I'm trying, but it's not I'm not It's
(33:43):
not a cure, overnight cure. Dude, are you at all
envious of his career and success? There's not an inkling
of like, god, well, I ask everyone possible. I'm like,
I kind of weird about you because Oliver was like
Oliver every podcast and every time people are like, no,
(34:05):
I'm so proud of my my sibling, and I'm like Oliver, see,
I am proud too. But in order but to deny
you're like that there's envy. No, you're like jeous obvious.
You know what. Now, there might be You're right, You're right,
there might be a little bit like I'm proud of you,
but like, fuck, I wish I could tell him, tell
them the Barry Cat's story. So you know Barry Kats is,
(34:34):
he's a manager. He's comedy manager, right, big, big comedy manager. Yeah,
big comedy manager. And I was sitting at the comedy
store years ago, maybe twelve fourteen years ago, and we're
in the patio of the comedy store and we're sitting
next to each other. Barry Cat's big guy, big jewish man,
walks up, Bobby, how are you. I'm like, oh, good,
you know, and he and I go, this is my
(34:54):
brother Steve. And Barry Cats said something, this is the
worst thing he could ever Could I do it? Yes?
So he's like it was good, meaning you and then
he starts walking away and he goes, so what's it
like living in your brother's shadow? Whoa? So geez. He
didn't say it like that, but he said those words perception.
(35:16):
He said, try to do it in a joke. So
what's it like, you know? Living? You know that? And
then I looked at my brother's hands and this is
what I see the rage for the zero it like this,
Yeah that's Alison. It was too much? Does it hurt?
(35:39):
I'm so sorry like that, but I had to do that. Yeah,
one of my questions I have is who's the louder sibling?
And this is what I'm I'm getting at. I think
you're the louder sibling. But then if it's that moment
where he goes one to a hundred in his rage,
that he might then be much louder than you ever are. Yeah, yeah,
that's a that's a very fair assessment. Okay. And now
(36:00):
in your family, so was your mom loud too? Okay?
So they were both, So both your mom and your
dad were quite outspoken and expressive. Yeah, I mean my
mom is the funny one, although my dad's funny in
his own way. My mom is the type of woman
(36:23):
to be in a mall and go I pick a
nap now, and she'll just lay in the middle of
the mall and fall asleep like she doesn't know social
like right, and then like like you know how, like
you go to a mall there's like a pool, like
like a fountain. My will to take her shoes off
and just wait around in the film like that's not
what it's there for. It's not a pool for your feet,
(36:45):
you know. So my mom is like that and then
she's also just very every girlfriend that's ever met My
mom goes, oh, that's where you get it from my
situation with Oliver and all my brothers. And excuse my
scabs on my feet, it's because I'm athletic and I
wasn't looking at her. I was, yeah, but well because
(37:08):
there was like a stick model thing happening your your feet,
you also your feet. Yeah, I have good feet. I
love your feet. But it's not that wasn't but that
was observed girls. Okay, so you would stare at their
(37:28):
feet a man? All right, man, this is oh so
you really do you have a feet? He has a feet.
He has a personal feet thing. Oh, he's like obsessed
with it. Yeah, like when he was younger, he would
have girls and then they wouldn't they wouldn't mess around,
and then he would be like like repressed, and then
he would stay up all night just staring at their feet.
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Oh you didn't know this. Would you like to? Would
you like to smell Kate's feet? Oliver, I don't don't
want to smell that. I'm not in that. This is crazy.
I'm not like that for you not to smell. I'm
gonna smell guy, you would you like to like correct
(38:11):
the tops of her foot like nod? Force him to
do it? Will you just do it? I'm not I'm
not gonna he wants he wants to. I'm gonna smell
(38:33):
white American flash. Yeah, okay, you got that. This is
so funny. Okay, wait, okay, wait who makes mom laugh
the most? You? Are you sure? Yeah? He's accepting it.
(38:55):
He's accepting What about Dad? Him? So? Okay? So so
Bobby is the funny He's way more extroverted. Yeah, and
who do you think is the favorite child? No? No,
I'm getting a headshake from I tell you why. I
don't think. I think maybe I know Me and mom
were real close, man, me and mom? Of I know
(39:17):
you guys are so close because you know what isn't
like I mean, it's in't like the sibling way, not
in like the reality like we know our parents all right,
But have you been envious of love? Like? No, I've
never been. And also when my dad got sick, obviously
because of my schedule, you know, I couldn't help in
that way, you know, like be physically there. But I
(39:37):
sent my brother Arizona job, right, so my mother would
just go out there and stay in Arizona for months
at a time and do all those medical things that
my dad needed, like the ship, his ass and all that.
Did you have to do that? Well? I saw my
mom do it, right, you didn't do it, but I
lifted him up. Yeah, so you're kind of winning in
(39:59):
that to apartment and to like like dependability. Okay, how
do you guys feel about this statistic? Firstborns are generally
smarter than the younger siblings, having on average a three
point IQ advantage over the second siblings. No, no, I
feel about that. Yeah, I don't know he's smarter. I'm not. Well,
(40:21):
he's smart in his own way politically, he knows all
you know about like you know, the lizard aliens. See,
I got a better SAT score than him by ten points,
but if we if we did, I mean I got
a seven fifty, you got a seven sixty. No, first
of all, that's not what it was. No, it wasn't. Sorry,
that's like we basically spelt our name right. I got
an eight sixty, you got an eight seventy. So yeah,
(40:44):
that's not Actually you're still wrong. We're going to look
it up. You're still wrong. But but I think it's
possible that if we took an IQ test, which we
probably should, that I probably still would get ten points
higher than maybe you. I'm like with Bobby, I think
it's possible you might win. I'm I'm I'm deep. You
know what I mean. Deep has nothing to do with
(41:05):
IQ depth. You have an IQ depth has nothing to
do with that. There's emotional intelligence, and there's I think
I have high emotional intelligence. Not I have a high
e Q an emotional quotion. There's an actual EQ and
I Q. That's your next statistic. Oh, in one of
your fights, have you ever made the other one bleed? Oh?
(41:26):
My god, so many times. Okay, I figured if you
could do any other job, what would it be. Just
just snap your fingers. You don't have to be skilled
like I would love to be. Like just how my
my my buddy Dave cho Is. Just do art, do
art shows and travel the world. Have exhibits that'd be amazing,
(41:48):
sound experience, you know, paint stuff and people will like
really recognize it and appreciate it. Yeah, I'll buy that
for eight million doll you know, Like you know, it's
just like I just keep and then you just create,
You keep creating I love that. But that's crazy that
you can do that, Like that's what you're sort of doing.
I know, it's a different template. I could draw. I
don't know how to painting past. Yeah, but David Chow
(42:09):
was like you were. He was David, who's this artist?
Was telling my brother send me paintings. How many paintings
did you send them? Drawings? Hundreds? Right? Oh that was
like at the beginning. Yeah yeah, but little sketches. Yeah yeah,
he's got great sketches. Oh cool, I do it for fun.
So your brother wants to be an artist if he
(42:31):
could have any other job? What about you, Bobby? Well,
I just got back in the Philippines and what we
did was we would take these little boats and go
to these because there's like nine thousand islands around the Philippines.
Was it amazing, fucking amazing. And we would go to
an island and there would be like a group of people,
like you know, people that live there and they would
make us food. And there was one island we went
(42:52):
to where Caly like was like, you know, this guy's
like was just on TV. He's like the best at
what they do and they basically they get food from
you know, shrimp and all the local things rise and
they put it beautifully on a table and everyone there's
no plates. You just eat it, you know what I mean.
I'll share like a communal kind of a thing. And
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the best meal I've ever had, so fresh. And I
always thought to myself, I thought to myself, then I
wish I was on an island and I was able
to cook things for people and make my make it
my own, you know what I mean. Because this guy
was like the ship. So I always thought, maybe that
would be a good job. You could do that. Yeah, yeah,
childhood crush. There was a tape at my parents' house.
(43:37):
There's a tape at my brother, cassette tape at my parents' house.
Don't you dare say that right here and you could
hear my brother as a kid. Don't do it. Whatever
you're thinking about doing, please don't say it. For forty
five minutes. This is what you hear. You push play.
I love you, Drew barry More. I love you, Drew
barry More. I love you, d barry More. I love
you Drew barry More. I love you Drew Barrymore. I
(43:58):
love you d barry More. I love you, I love
you very More so Drew Barrymore, I think with him. Yeah, right,
Can I just say this too, it's Drew Berry Moore
because this is in the early eighties, so when she
was on Firestarter or et Drew Barrymore three. But okay,
(44:18):
so what was his childhood crush? Do you remember Nicole
Eggert Oliver is projecting he loved that one? Right? You
didn't have Phoebe Kate's. You didn't know. I didn't have
I didn't have anything you had. No, you know, because
in the eighties I was drinking and doing drugs and
all that kind of stuff, and I was doing a
(44:38):
lot of gay things back then that I was just
so just just lost. I didn't have the same childhood
like you know, fantasies like Drew Barrymore. Mine was a
psych out of survival. Really. Okay. One of these things
is I just think you guys are very open. So
something moved the foot just put wrong. Okay, what physical
(45:03):
feature are you most proud of of my own? Yeah?
Hard question, because I live in this body. I have
no idea. Yeah, I ever looked at my body and went,
oh that's the thing. Never never, Yeah, these are the
things we got to work on. You what about what
about the opposite of physical feature? You're just like, this
is just a disaster for me. Have you heard of
(45:26):
a hegemonics or a hegeomony? Is that the right word? Hoo? Yeah? Where, No,
it's it's what the culture shows, what's a good looking
man is through media and guys like my brother and
I were never like, you know, especially Asian males in Hollywood,
we're never viewed as a sexual, you know, being you know,
(45:47):
I think now they're slowly doing that, but back in
the day, you have to imagine in the eighties, you know,
if you were to say, who are your Asian role
models in media? Right, there's Bruce Lee and then there's
Pat Marita. Oh, long duck dog, long duck dong. I
mean you have three options, right, So, you know, we
(46:07):
don't we have a weird you know, growing up in America.
In America, I was born here, I'm an American citizen,
and I have to say that, you know, my girlfriends
have all been very attractive and sexy, you know, but
you know, but you know, I've never felt like I
was ever like, you know, a good looking guy. I
know I'm cute, I know I test well you do.
(46:29):
I do everything, I may, I test well, you know
the audience likes me. But I know that when I
go on stage already I can feel the audience we
like him. Even as an open micer, I could feel that.
That's because I'm sexually non threatening. Right. They always say
in stand up comedy, the worst, you know, the hardest
(46:52):
is when you're good looking. Okay, really quick, here's a
more of a speed round. But we're gonna do Would
they choose? But you're going to answer this for your brother.
This is Bobby Lee talking about his brother Steve Lee.
Would he choose? Well, I know the answer to this one. Now.
Would he choose the power of invisibility or the power
(47:13):
to fight my brother? Would I think? Choose the power
of invisibility? All right? Got one right? Okay? Would he
live in medieval times as a royal or in future
times as a cyborg? Future times is a sure cyborg? Yeah?
Can I do him instead of Bobby? Right? I wouldn't
want to be infused as a robot into technology, So
(47:36):
you would go back in time in medieval times, and
I wouldn't want to be a robot, braveheart, Yeah, I
wouldn't want to be a robot. That's all I know.
Fantasy or science fiction. Fantasy, but you don't want to
be a robots? I find no. But there's other aspects
of science fiction. I was just going with the fucking
(47:56):
science fiction. There's a lot of contradiction here, I agree. Yeah, okay.
Beach or mountains beach Yeah, nice. Beetles are rolling stones
beetles all day? Yeah, yes, Tupac or Biggie Tupac. I
like them about the same. Tupac to West Coast, Yeah yeah.
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Infinite power or infinite wealth, infinite wealth. I guess they're
both relative. Yeah, okay, I guess you're right. Unicorn or mermaid,
to make love to to be? Yeah, Olive garden or
red lobster. Olive garden, red lobster. You've have you? Have
you been? Pasta? Pasta olive oil. I don't like their bread, alright,
(48:44):
they're known for their bread. Sports car escalade, any car.
I'll take a Corolla at this point. Woodstock sixty nine
or Woodstock ninety nine. I like that one. That's a
good one. One sixty nine. Yeah, LSD S all right, Okay,
(49:06):
it's your brother's turn invisibility or power to fight invisibility. Okay,
what about this? What about invisibility or flying? Flying? Yep,
you gotta say yes, yes, Bobby says yes, yes, Okay.
Would Bobby like to live in a castle slash mansion
or a high rise apartment mansion castle mansion? Yeah. Appetizer
(49:31):
or dessert. Oh, he's an appetizer. Yeah, all day every day.
What it is like eight, all day every day? Yeah.
Beach or mountains? Beach Yeah? Yeah, you said, yeah, I'll
never come to Colorado. I don't care how many times
you invite me. You do not want to be a
part of the mountain. I'll never go. Yeah, I know
(49:52):
that's that's a fact. I know it will never go
to the mountains. So your summer, winter, summer or winter
for him? Yeah, summer. If he had to lose an
arm or a leg, would it be the arm or
would it be the leg? It would be a leg. Yeah.
Because he does stand up, he can he you know,
he needs both hands. I think that's a good joke.
(50:13):
By the way. Oh yeah, because he does stand up,
he lose a leg. It is a good joke. Definite
power or infinite wealth power? Ooh, I like that. You
guys are different. That it's interesting. Weal Unicorner Mermaid, Murman, Mermaid, Murrhman.
You jet ski or wave runner jet ski? Yeah, yeah,
(50:39):
you do know. Jet ski you need to sit down
and just push a button. Then the wave Runner's got
to stand up. And there's a whole situation that goes on.
Headphones or boombox, headphones from him, sports car escalade, sports
car yep. And then you know, what about you? For
Woodstock sixty nine or Woodstock ninety nine, he would do
(51:00):
sixty nine. Yeah, that's that question. I don't think anyone
would pick ninety nine. Hey, guys, who's the most sensitive?
I think you're more sensitive than I am. Yeah, I
think I'm more sensitive. Ye. Yeah. But I want to
say this. I mean, I know we're not ending right
now at this very second, but I wanted to kind
of express how I really do feel about my brother.
Is that that I only honestly at the end of
(51:25):
the day, Let's say I died in those chapters in
my book, my brother would be half the book. You know.
He is the only one, aside from my parents and
my maybe Krlila, that I truly love from every sense
of my being. Like for me, it's like I mean,
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God forbid anything happened to my brother, I honestly don't
know how I would be able to even function in life.
I mean it would be like, you know, people could
die and I would be hurt him specifically, it would
be so you know, devastating that I just would not
be able to function. You know, I love him more
(52:08):
than anything really, and that's why when we fight, it
gets really emotional, it gets you know, combat of but
and you know, at the end of the day, it's
like he's a part of me. You know, he we have.
We come from the same blood, and we come from
the same you know, our parents and him. He's the
longest person I've ever known. I knew him from I'll
(52:32):
show you a photo. Let's not do this, and Steve,
you should start. You've got to prepare your side of
this right now. So think about the beautiful things that
you're going to say to Bobby, because he just when
he was born. And this is me looking at my
brother's hand right going you know, all I ever wanted
(52:55):
was all And then that's me and my brother. That's
me and Steve, you know, right Steve right here see
me holding my little brother. Steve. You know, me and Steve,
like he's my best friend. He's uh, this is high school,
you know. I know what I'm wearing my head, but
like you know what I mean. But so my my
brother and I he is from a part of my life,
(53:20):
you know, and you know I will always at the
end of the day, we'll take care of him. There's
he'll never struggle, He'll never you know. That's what it is.
You know, I mean, that's what it is. Go ahead,
go ahead that I mean no, to be honest, like
(53:42):
I wish my sister would say something like that to me.
Yeah you want me to, I can totally do that,
but I just I'm too emotional. I'll just start crying. Okay,
you could start it, you could start it off, but
you have to finish. Okay, Well, I'll just hate it
about Oliver in the mok you can add it. And right,
(54:03):
I feel that I feel the same way, although I'm
not good at uh expressing you know, like my how
much you mean to me? You know, And I know
I've like in a way I've you know, just kind
of I haven't been in full gratitude many you know,
(54:24):
for some years as far as how like, how how
good you are to me, and and like I thought,
you know, through all this thing, I'm not going to
bring his name up, but I thought that you like
abandoned me, you know, like as far as like when
you're in the Philippines. But then when I realized that
you were actually like fighting for me, I was like
it really like I it like I kind of broke
(54:46):
up then, like as far as like, oh my brother,
like I thought that he like didn't have my best intentions.
I don't want to go into the story, but like
the whole time he was like fighting for me, like
so I could get my channel back and so I
could have you know what I'm saying. So but like
I but then but then I realized, like why did
(55:08):
I question that, you know? And so it was it's
one of those things as far as like why would
I question like this is blood. You can't fuck with blood,
you know, like where so you know him, He's the
best brother I could have ever asked for. And I
want to get to a point. I appreciate you you
helping me throughout the years, but like I want to
(55:30):
get to a point where you know, like as far
as monetarily, I could be self supporting as well, like
I don't. I'm not trying to, you know, live off
his dime. You know. That's why I'm like trying to
get these things going because in a way I feel
bad because he's catering towards my parents, and in a
way I feel shame because I'm unable to provide that,
(55:54):
but you know, he's doing it. So what I'm trying
to say is I, yeah, he's He's probably the best
brother anyone could ask for. And uh, I know we
fight a lot, but at the end of the day,
it's like, you know, I mean I have a you know,
this is like he's you know that blood is blood.
(56:15):
You know, you can't you know, like, no matter who
you meet throughout your life span, you can never replace that.
You especially this, you can't replace. There's you know, I
don't care if it's your best friend. It's like blood
is It's just there's a certain power and bond to that.
That's it's it's everlasting. You can't at least that's the
(56:38):
way we were raised. So yeah, yeah, if you were
to give advice to say brothers that didn't or weren't
talking or weren't connecting or like, what would that look like,
what would that be. I would just say, man like,
life is too short. We don't know how much time
(56:58):
we have on this planet or tomorrow's never promised, so
any day above ground is a good day. You should
really cherish the one. I know. This one thing you
don't do is you don't hold resent You don't hold
on to resentment. Resentment is the thing that eats its
own container. Like resentment, resentment, it's kind of like you're
(57:18):
you're drinking poison expecting the other person to die from
what you're doing. So that's the main thing that keeps
families apart. This is just my opinion, is resentment. And
you know that could be coupled with envy and jealousy
and all these other aspects, but the main thing I
think is resentment. I would say to life is short,
(57:39):
and you have to swallow your pride. You look at
your own inventory you're part in it, and then and
then make up because life is short. You should. If
it's family, there's no reason why you can't be in
touch unless that person murdered your kids or you know
what I'm saying, it's something horrific that's unforgivable. But Bobby,
(58:05):
it was going so well, I'm sorry. No, you're right
that resentment is huge. It's huge. It will destroy you,
and it's and it's we will won't end up drinking
and doing drugs if we don't deal with resentment. That's
the thing that is our downfall. We're right. Essentially, the
resentment is suicidal. Yeah, and attempting to it's a version
(58:26):
of contempt. That was really beautiful you guys. I think
you said gratitude, like I think it's just such a
great thing to say, Oh, yeah, did that feel good
to hear he did it? It felt good? Yeah, because
he doesn't. We don't, don't, you know, don't have that
kind of I think, yeah, that's thank you for doing that,
(58:46):
because we haven't had that kind of yeah, like that
interaction in years. It's not it's not an easy thing
to do, noial and because there's there's also so much emotion.
I mean, you know, they say, and I could into
all the stats and stuff, but like we've spent the
most time with each other than anybody in our family.
I mean, that's just what it is. So you guys
(59:08):
are super super close and well, no, but most siblings,
that is just most siblings. So you guys spent more
time with each other than anybody else, your partners or
any I mean, like anybody else. And and so when
you start to actually communicate to that person, like from
a real vulnerable place, you're like, oh my god, it's
(59:32):
beautiful that you can even say those things. And I'm
just learning to honestly, because it's not easy for me
to do what you guys did, to sit across from
Kate and just say that openly and honestly without fear,
you know, And that's his personal fear of judgment and
fear of Look now I'm freaking out later on the
net and be like, you did that at Kate Hudson's house,
(59:55):
you know, the one that was almost famous Kate Hudson.
Now that that's snakeskin. Yeah, that like that whole thing
you did that, Steve, What did you do? Yeah? Then
my head's gonna be it's gonna be like a hamster wheel,
like why did you do it? Why did you? Fine?
(01:00:16):
You're great? All right? We like to go nineties hip
hop style? Are we freestyling for real? Right now? Oh? Yeah,
I'll do all right? Do you want a nose vibe?
Here we go waiting for the beat well, Kogi is
my meat street meat fleet week, screwing guys with big feet.
(01:00:41):
I don't want to be cool, but I'm the man
who's going to crossroads school. I learned to educate. I
go on a few dates and then I found one
girl who I called my mate, and little Ray is here.
I got the sharp spear coming through. You need to
open up your ear because I got a lot of
fear growing through my heart. Yes, I strite start to depart,
(01:01:01):
then I pull apart the parts like a god dang motor.
I don't give a fuck. I got the straight soldier
type of mentality in my straight brain, insaying in the
brain like I'm Cypress Hill. When I got the feel
and I need to chill and I need to not kill.
I got the rage streaming through my eyebrows. I keep
going because I'm headed towards the clouds. When I look
(01:01:22):
up to this guy, then I look up to the ground,
heaven or hell. Yes, I am a damn clown, profound
ricochetan thoughts in my mind state. I'm not claiming that
I'm great, but I'm hanging out with Kate Hudson and Allie.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah why do you cover
your eyes? Oh? Oh that was fun. We have one
(01:01:45):
more question because there's a charity aspect to your fil
So Kate and I have a ten thousand dollars bet.
Throughout this season we are asking our guests and you
have to answer honestly. No feelings are going to get hurt.
But after and and and the winner the ten thousand
dollars will go to the charity of our choice of
one of ours choices. So after this podcast throw away
(01:02:05):
all you knowing me and everything else, who do you
like better? Myself or Kate? Just relate to just generally
vibe like you know I honestly, Kate, really yeah? Yeah?
(01:02:26):
Can I tell you it's fine saying there's no hard
feeling it was my feet. It's not just no, it
wasn't just the feat, right, It's just that, you know,
she seems like somebody that I can trust more, Okay,
somebody that like, you know, like, like, here's what I think.
Kate has projected a wonderful motherly figure. And I think
(01:02:51):
that you have found a mother figure in her if
you wanted to make love to her feet. I don't
know about likeness, but I have to be honest I
fear you guys both. Okay, but who do you like
the most? Both of you? Guys? It's hard. You don't
you're there's there's no there's there's there's no hurting feelings either.
It's just it's just an over gotta be hous. I
(01:03:12):
feel a little bit more comfortable with all of our Yeah,
but but it's because I because I fear you so much,
because I'm like, I can't go down step. He's a
star too, but I'm not. Yes, yeah, but he's a
yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, but don't doubt Yeah.
I guess he gets sensitive. So I just want to
(01:03:32):
say something I loved every hour we sat here together.
Love meaning you, I love you, right. Yeah. We're bringing
in the family psychologists, so you guys can sling. We
can do I'll read you. Yeah. You know, I think
my brother and I you know, I think it maybe
(01:03:54):
is a cultural thing being Korean or whatever, but we're
very real. I mean, we we don't really. If we
feel it, we'll say it. And so you know, everything
we've talked about is stuff that we feel and we've
talked about before. We're not uncomfortable pop. Yeah, I think
that being with you two really was very comfortable because
(01:04:15):
we were a little nervous about how that was gonna go.
But it went splendidly and I really enjoyed myself. You know, Yeah,
I have to mean I was nervous at first, but
I'm not nervous right now. Yeah you're not. Yeah, yeah,
I was chilling freestyle and at the end, thank you God.
(01:04:36):
Sibling Revelry is executive Gruce by Kate Hudson, Alira Hudson,
and sim Sarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is
Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.
Hosts And Creators
Oliver Hudson
Kate Hudson
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