March 24, 2025 • 56 mins
The Siblings have done it again! Kate and Oliver serve up a can't miss episode with actor and comedian, Denis Leary.
The 'Rescue Me' star takes us back to his Boston roots, and talks about the famous face whoturned out to be his long-lost Irish relative.
Plus, Denis dishes on working with his son in the new series "Going Dutch," while Kate confesses why she didn't approach Denis on a recent flight!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And I just put beef tallow on my face.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh that's really good.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Aaron has it my base. I just I love
the way it feels. It smiles, it smells like a cow.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I can give you stuff that's good. I do beef.
I do the tallow sunscreen because I think it's better
than regular sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I just don't wear sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, then you should do the tallow.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, but there's goin. There has to be flavored. Tello.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am so excited about this person that we have
coming on today because it feels like it feels to
me like someone I grew up with. Oh yeah, because
he he was you know, we have Dennis Leary coming on,
and I feel like when we were kids, he was like.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah that you know, he was like the yeah, well
when he was doing comedy, it was sort of aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He was that eighties like punk yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, it was like it was that punk comedy.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Punk comedy. He just created that he was a punk comic.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I guess, let's see, let's see what he says.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Punk comedy. I seriously doubted.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But the thing is is I was. I was on
the plane with him, and I know you didn't even
I didn't say anything because I knew he's coming on
the podcast and then I'll bring us up with him.
But I'm sitting in first class. I come on the plane.
I actually saw Laurence Fishburne, who we call Fish, who
hadn't seen in a really long time, and Danny was
(02:08):
just like fanning out because he's such a Laurence fishman.
And then and then we're up in the at thirty
two thousand feet and I see this back of this
man's head going to the restroom, and I'm like, I
really recognize that person. And I recognized the back of
his like this is like the side of his very
distinguished back ahead with the thing. And then when he
(02:28):
was walking back, I was like, oh, it's Dennis Larry.
And then I wanted to say hi, but then I
felt weird. It felt weird because.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I want to say, you're going to be on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, and I didn't know if he was that kind
of guy.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, I think he is. I'm assuming he's a
nice person, but I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
See if he had the same feeling right now, like
do I say hello?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
What if he didn't even recognize what he might have
not even be the first question? Bring him on, let's
have this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What we were getting off the plane, that's when I
saw you and your daughter. Yeah, and I was like,
and then we both went out at the down the
stay airs and I was like, she's having I'm not
going to fucking interrupt her kid.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We are dancing.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But yeah, I know, I'm hey, another celebrity.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's how I felt. But I saw you going to
the bathroom and then and then I actually recognized you
from kind of like a three quarter I was like,
oh my god, we're on the same flight and we're
going to talk in a couple of days. And then
I was like, I'm not going to say anything because
I didn't know. You know, some people are weird.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It seems like celebrity is there's this sort of thing
where if you see in another celebrity, whether you and
if if you don't know them, it's sort of okay
to approach them, right, But I wonder if that's teared out,
meaning if only A listers can talk to a listeners,
can you mix C and A you can see talk
to the Ayah, here's.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The weird thing. Larry Fishburne was on that same flight.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Who I've known.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, so I've known Larry forever. So we talked because
when we were first getting on he fucked up his foot.
Yeah yeah, yeah, So we were talking about that and
I hadn't seen him in a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well that's what happened. When I saw him and he's like, hey, Kate,
I was like, oh my god. And he's the best,
Yes he is, but but then what happened to his foot?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The celebrities I don't know, especially when they're with their kids.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So I was like, I'm not gonna fucking bother.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, but is there is there is there one who
you would you know, whether it's like a you know,
a hockey player, someone who you admired tremendously who you
don't know, would you actually go up to that person?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I have? I think at this point I have too much.
If they have don't have a kid with them, it's
more likely that I might say, hey, Oliver, right, what's
going on right?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
More with sports people, like if it's a sports person,
I probably and I don't know them, I would I like,
I went.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Up to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Red so yeah, but I saw him at a at
a Rams game, and I was like, I have to
have to say hello. And and of course he had
no idea who I who I was. Really, I didn't
think so because he was sort of just you know,
there was no it was no real connection.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
He was just all risk.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I was fine with it. I just had to meet him.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I run that risk. But I don't like if
people have kids with him. I think it's kind of
like my unwritten rule is because I know my kids
when they were small, it was fucking pain in the
ass when you're trying to grab the kid or get
someplace off the plane or whatever. You don't want some
fucking other celebrity coming up, like you know.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So anyway, I feel like the person that is the
most intimidating like that is actually our dad, because kurt
Is just doesn't care about any of it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No, I want to say one thing about your dad. Okay,
I've been a fan of your dad, for your dad
is a fucking great actor. Yeah, I've been your dad
for a long time and I'm a huge hockey thing.
That fucking your dad playing her Brooks because if you guys,
you probably are aware of it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But he fucking nailed crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And I know people talk about the speech, but god
damn it, every moment that when he shows up in
that movie, you go, anyways, I did it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're on a you know, like a there's a family
thread and there's all these fucking text threads everywhere, so
on sort of the dude, it's called the Olympians, right,
it's our thread. When when when USA was playing Canada,
I was working in Toronto, so I was there, you know,
I was in Canada, you know, when it was all
going down. But I was imagining if Kurt when they
(06:48):
were in Boston playing in the Garden came out, you
know before the game, would it would have been Mayhem, Mayhem.
But but I was talking about that just recently, and
that's such a you know, the performance is so insane
and it's underappreciated, Like there's no reason why he shouldn't
have been nominated for something. But he was made fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How the movie was you know, the movie as you
could tell from the first time I saw it, and
the director is a friend of mine. Book, Yeah, and
I knew what he was doing because he was as
he was starting it, he was like he wasn't casting stars. Really,
the only fucking star in the movie. And I was like,
fucking Kurt Russell's playing her Brooks and he at the time.
(07:31):
I had a conversation with him once they started shooting.
He's like, fucking Kurt Russell is fucking nailing this. Anyways,
I just I've seen it so many times, and I've
seen your dad do a million fucking things, and I
am a fan of his.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But yeah, it's one of the When I was doing
all the press for the show that I have out
right now on Netflix, I I get asked all the time, like,
what's your favorite sports movie?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I'm always like, the first, I at least saw
the first two episodes of your show. But it's fucking hilarious.
Oh the rogue doesn't. I mean, I know this's unfair,
but he doesn't count because he's supposed to be great.
Like I did, I wasn't aware enough of Brenda's song.
I literally wasn't paying enough attention because I was like,
(08:16):
holy fuck, this girl is great. The mothers are off. Guy,
the guy who's losing his hair.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh yeah, Scott MacArthur. He's so funny. You know, he's
in the camp. He's in the whole Danny McBride camp.
So he was on Righteous Gems. He writes on Righteous Gemstone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And you know what, yeah, well we're all call best friend.
Our kids go to school together. I've known Scottie forever,
so it's it's okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, it's like it's turned into family.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I was real quick going back to the Miracle. I
actually auditioned for that because I played hockey for eight years, right,
so I was like, I want to be in this
fucking movie. But I went through the whole process, of course,
the reading part, but I went through the process of
in the hockey, the skating, and these are all X pros,
you know may they were, they were, they were, you know,
national champions. I mean it was crazy and I'm this
(09:08):
like scrawny little dude doing doing corner drills or I'm
gonna get your murderater. I can skate, but I was
so scary. Really when they would throw the puck into
the corner, it's like blow the whistle and you're like, oh,
I'm going to get fucking killed right now. And I
was doing everything I can't. I could not to to
fights your whole wife. Yeah. And my brother why you know,
(09:30):
played professional goalie. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I dated professional hockey players many.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I just thought hockey players were cute, and I would.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Harry Oh's was the spot in Manhattan Beach where all
the hockey players went. My sister was there in like
a leopard print tight dress, completely blown out hair, cruising
in her white convertible Wrangler. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was a eighteen eighty nine saw that didn't work,
but it did. The top did go down. Yes, I
definitely hockey players thought I liked their energy. I was like,
when all my friends were going to clubs in Hollywood,
I was like, I'd much prefer to hang out with
people in Manhattan Beach who like grew up in Canada.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Hockey players. Hockey players are the best.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They're the best. Are the best. You all know that, Yes,
the best.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And I think they also like come from like great
families and any family that is, I mean all of
them are. But there's something about like the hockey four
am wake up calls parents who are taking their kids
to the rank that early. They are so committed.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Kids played hockey when they were grown up.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So, yeah, Dennis, can I ask you a question if
you were to say what kind of comedian you are? Like,
like when you started doing stand up, we were kind
of trying to like talk about like what does someone
when they say, like what.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Kind are you class of?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Like how do you classify your comment?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because you had a really unique style that was well
so different from a lot of other I was considered, uh.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know, like edgy and rebellion like I didn't. I
never did my I didn't do it too. I came
from the theater, you know, I was studied. I was
in a college studying writing and acting, so you know,
I went into it because you know Stephen Wright, the comedian. Yeah,
So we went to college together and Stephen was just
(11:34):
a writer, you know, and he made little short films
and he was the shyest guy in the world, and
he lived around the corner. Once we graduated, he lived
around the corner from me, a couple of buildings away.
And then my girlfriend at the time was went to
a com a nightclub which was really a Chinese restaurant,
(11:57):
and she came back the next day and she goes, hey,
Stephen Wright got up at this talent show and did
jokes last night, and I was like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I know? Right? He was such a brilliant comedian anyways,
if you know his act, his jokes were like haikuah. Anyway,
so I went over. I went over to see Steve
and I was like, did you fucking are you doing
jokes at a at a talent tone. He's like yeah.
So I went to see him and I was like,
he literally, I know this, It's this is like the
(12:29):
story of my life. I was like, fuck it. If
he can do it, I could And so that's how
I got into it. But I never wanted to do
talk shows like I wanted to. You know, the guys
I loved were Richard Pryor and George Carlin.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I saw this interview with Prior, like in nineteen seventy
nine and he said, yeah, the reason I changed my
act because he used to work like on the Ed
Sullivan Show and stuff, was because he said, I wanted
to start talking to the crowd the way I talked
to my friends in my living room. That's where I
was like, Oh, I'm just gonna fucking be that guy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, but when you were coming up, you didn't That's
not what you were studying, right, That's not what you
wanted to do, or was it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No, I was going I wanted to be an actor,
and uh, I wanted to be a hockey player. But
I flunked off the fucking team my freshman year and
a nun stuck me in a musicle and I was like,
oh this started. Nun was like, I want you to
come after after class, the next to last class. You
(13:45):
got to skip one class, and she's like, I need
I need boys to lift up the girls when they're dancing.
So I go to this fucking thing fuck and I'm
like all the hottest girls in school and the nuns
like grab her by under the bosom and wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm like, you want me to grab the girl?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So I was into show business starting.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
They're telling you to do something where you know, maybe
Jesus would frown upon.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I guess I stayed friends with that none because
she got me my scholarship. She got me the audition
that got me the scholarship to go to Emerson College
and that changed my life. I mean that was just
like it was all.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Were you a good student?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No? Not not in regular school. Like the first twelve
years I went to the same neighborhood school, all the
same nuns. We all all my brothers, my sisters, all
my cousins, and uh, you know, it's the seventies, so
it was like we didn't buy any of the bullshit.
We would just go. We had to go to that
school because that's where our parents made us go. So
(14:52):
school was great because it was girls and you know,
lots of other stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, so you were in school like so it was
like the.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Sac that wasn't Like I was good at the stuff
I liked, but I wasn't math, and so I knew
I wasn't gonna that ship. I didn't. It didn't thing
was like fuck you, yeah, but none. Putting me in
the musical that was huge. And then when I got
to college. I I loved college because it was all
acting and writing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like how many how many kids? How many kids do
you have?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I have two kids.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
How old are they?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
My son is turning thirty five and my daughter is
just turned thirty three, So yeah, my son actually as
a producer. He developed the show I'm doing on Fox
and who I.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Want to we want to talk about that, you know,
I have a that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Was interesting, like, yeah, there was a TV writer.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So I want to go I want to go back
into your life for a second. But I just have
a question, like the fact just the way that you
raised your kids as far as education goes, knowing that
you were not strong and sort of you know, maybe
math and some of these sciences did you have. Did
you take that into account when your kids were going
through school? Were they good students and you were you
hard on them? You know, as far as their education goes,
(16:14):
knowing that you do what you do.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think my wife and I, you know, we both
were supposedly raised Catholic, so we both had that experience, right,
But at the same time we were also aware of
like like my wife loved the things that she loved
when she was in school, so we were aware of
(16:38):
that with the kids. Even though I remember a teacher
at their school saying to us, I think Jack was
probably in the fifth grade at that point, or maybe
the sixth, and this there was this very progressive teacher
who said, you know, we should be changing the way
we teach kids, it's very apparent by the time they
get to fifth or sixth grade what they're good at. Naturally,
(17:00):
we should let the kids focus on this stuff they're
good at instead of forcing them. I don't know. If
you guys were good at math, yes, I was like,
why am I learning this? Ship?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah yeah, I'm doing weirdly.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I was good at math really yeah, really like forty
eight but it was really that's it. The thing is
like it all went out the window, right, But like,
if you gave me an equation, like as long as
I knew the system, I could do it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But see here's the thing, right, if you gave me
if math was reciting hockey and baseball and football and
basketball stats, I would have been fucking great at yeah. Right.
It wasn't like all these weird like once they got
the long division, I'm like, fuck you, am I going
to use it?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's how you sound like my middle my middle my daughter.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just dropped off at school and it's like I
have a math test today and I don't know. I
was like, just stay your best, and I was like
what if what if I don't you know? I'm like,
who cares like you do your best I have three
catus three as well.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We're both we have three both two same, two boys older,
and then the baby is are girls.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah oh wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah. It's kind of a foregone conclusion what everyone's going
to do. They all want to be in this business
one way or Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's so interesting that when you grow you know, like,
I mean, you know, when I was I was doing
an interview with Jeanie Buss, who's the president of the Lakers,
and she said, you know, statistically most kids get into
the family business, like it's like an eighty percent or something. Crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, which, well that's why this whole like, you know,
I know, it's sort of not here anymore, this whole
like sort of nepo baby wave that kind of crashed
over everything. It was so focused on Hollywood because it's
it's something that out there people know who we are.
But that nepotism exists in every fucking industry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh my god, get about it. Probably the least nepo
business is our business. Restaurant business, oh, the painting, but
landscaping buck you know, garage is mechanics. I mean, my
dad was a mechanic by trade. You know, by the way,
my parents were immigrants from Ireland, right, the idea that
(19:26):
my parents when I said, I remember the conversation with
my dad and I said, He's like, what do you
think you want to do it? Once cocky was definitely
not happening. I think I want to do this acting thing.
This is when I was in high school. And he
was like, oh, that's interesting. And he never bat he
never batted an eye about Wow. He was like, yeah,
(19:47):
we don't have the money to send you to college,
but if you can get a scholarship of book and
then he would come every show I did in college,
him and my mom came to. I mean I was
I was going to college in Boston. They lived in Worcester,
so it was like he came to every fucking show. Yeah. Wow,
I like this. I really loved that part. That guy
is great. She's terrific.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like wow, I feel like.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
The Irish are very creative though. I mean, I I've
spent some time in Ireland when I was younger, and
it is such an artistic country. Like I feel like
every family has an artist in the family, you know,
whether it's music, painting.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Was also a good musician, so yeah, that feed a
family in America. But he could basically play any instrument
he wanted to play. He played in bands on the weekends,
like at weddings and stuff like that. I think for him,
he never said this to me, but I always thought
he was like, Oh, there's at least one that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, well let's go into that.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So you grew up in Worcester, Mass I played, I
did it. I did Dawson's Creek for a year, and
my character was Eddie Doling from Worcester. Oh really, it
was from Worcester. And then my in laws, you know,
they're all they're from Brockton. So my yeah, my in
(21:10):
laws are from Brockton, thick thick, thick accents. They live
in Falmouth. They live in Falmouth now, and so I'm
there for about a month every summer. Yeah, isn't your dad.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wasn't your dad born in fucking the Springfield or some ship?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So my my wife and
they grew up in Long Meadow. I mean eventually they
moved to Long Meadow, which is of course next door
to Springfield. And I guess something like you know, Kurt's
great uncle like discovered Springfield or something.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Crazy really always something. I don't know, there's always something yea.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So just so you guys probably maybe, but yeah, Massachusetts,
fucking you know. Uh, the way the system worked is
Boston of course is like Boston, and they look down
on Boston and Worcester, but we look down on spring Field,
and we all looked down on Brockton and Lowell right
by the way, like us looking down on other people. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So, your parents, so they immigrated. How old were they
when they immigrated from Ireland? To know?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
My dad came in nineteen fifty so or forty nine,
so he was like he would have been like in
his early twenties. And then my parents come from the
same village in Killarney. So he came to America to
New York to make enough money to send to pay
for her boat. They came by boat so that she
(22:39):
could come by boat. And then and they came to
she came to New York. But then they ended up
in Worcester because there was a job up there.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Were they already married.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
They got married here in America.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's crazy, right, Do you have your Irish passport? I do,
and my kids have Irish and my son's about to
get his being Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's
his dad's Irish. His dad's English but from Ireland, like
the family.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Really, it's a great thing for kids because they can
work over their European Union. You know, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, for sure, we've got to get our Italian one.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
We're in the process of looking into our Italian We're
we are our dads Sicilian.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I had no idea you guys were Sicilian.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, well, I Allie looks Italian. I don't. I got
kind of the Hungarian side, I think more. Although I
just looked at a picture of my grandmother, my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
That yeah, it's crazy. I actually looked like that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It was like, weirded me out, Uncle mar Yeah, Sarah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So we're half weird, right, Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And I saw that picture and I was like, oh
my god, it looks so much like my grandma.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now we're getting in touch with our half siblings and
our cousins and things are sort of coming together.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Dynamic for you. I mean, it's amazing that you guys
grew up. Ah. You know, actually, like with Kurt as your.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Dad, we were very lucky. I had this, you know,
after Gene Hackman died, there was this thing of him
going around on the Actors Studio talking about when his
dad left and every once in a while, like saw
that every time, you know, and it really got it
got him, you know, in that and everyone's I'll see
(24:31):
something like that, and it does. I get that, Like
it just never goes away. That like that little thing
of abandonment.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You saw him get. You saw him sort of like
sort of fall into it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Just because because it's it's it's like your foundation, you know,
and it's really it really got me when I was
looking at that, because it was like, God, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
People, I'm not judging anybody. Once you have kids, I
just can't imagine. Yeah, ever, yes, yeah, I mean fuck,
I mean, god, damn.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now I can have more understanding now that we're reconnecting
with our father.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You know, it's complicated. Well, there's the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Patterns connecting with your dad now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's patterns, right, And our grandfather left
our dad, you know, and then showed up later on
in his life and then you know, dad obviously didn't
have the tools to deal with that that trauma and
that pain, you know, in the fifties and so he
sort of repeated that pattern. I remember as a young
boy thinking I'm going to have kids, can wait to
(25:38):
have kids, and there's no world where I will leave
my children. So you can either continue down that road
and sort of you know, that pattern exists, or you
can try to break the cycle. And I think that
Katie and I were definitely we broke that cycle.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I have attempted abandoning my kids a couple of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hours trying to cry, or like walking.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Through the airport I see like air France, just like
just book it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What happened to mom? I don't know the airport and
air France flight. I've never seen her yet. No, But
you know, it's interesting because it's it is you know,
you I get every I guess everybody's capacity is just
different based on how they grew up. And now that
(26:49):
like we're reconnecting, it's just sort of you know, I
guess I have more empathy or sort of understanding weirdly,
you know, forget well, I.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Know this stuff. Listen. I'm not I'm you know, uh,
no expert by any means, but you know, this generational
trauma thing is true, right, They very specific of events
like that, like you're talking about an event where the
guy just takes off. You know, there's other things that
that get passed into through our DNA, right generationally, So
(27:25):
it's like that makes sense, but that an external event
like that, like that a decision?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah right yeah, yeah, well nature nurture thing. You know,
how much of that is just a part of our
DNA and how much of it is completely learned behavior?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, it's probably both, right, both.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, it has to be with.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Your mother and your father that you were with, right yeah,
and with like you learned the good side.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Right, Yeah, let's go back to your family and and
enough about our abandonment.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Your problems is your generation. What's going on? There's gotta
be something.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Going to school? The nuns could still fucking hit you?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh god, really were you? Were you one that did
get hit often?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Uh? Well, listen, I was a terror. Every time I
got hit, I probably had a coming. But I did
some amazing fucking things. They are very famous in my family. Like,
uh I was, Uh, it was. It was a great
thing that I don't know if you guys know this,
but if you're an altar boy, uh, you get paid
(28:45):
in cash for doing funeral masses and wedding masses.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So yeah, it's like they give the money to the priest,
and the priest you know, tips out to the you know.
It's like it's like the mafia.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It sounds like it's on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You you get your your cut. So I got into
the Altar Boys. My brother was my brother's three years
older than me. My my brother we share a room
together growing up all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
How many siblings four?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So, uh, my brother and I always had a we
in the We lived in an apartment first, and we
were in the attic of the it was a three
decker it's actually two and a half decker. My brother
and I were in the attic, and then when we moved,
my brother and I were in the basement. So we
were always together and we you know, went to school
together and everything. All the same friends and brothers of like,
(29:35):
all his best friends they're my best friends, were their brothers. Right.
So anyways, my brother got me in the Altar Boys,
which was fucking great, great cat. Yeah. Anyways, this fucking
priest was late one day for one of the masses
and me and this Polish kid, uh, the the other
(29:55):
priest came in and put out the holy wine, which
normally the priests, saying the mask would take that out.
At the last second, he took it out and left it.
He said, Father Donny was going to be lady being
above fifteen. Just hang on, we're standing there. I'm telling
you this has made so much sense. At the time,
stra Levitz goes, John stra Levitz was his name. He goes, uh,
(30:18):
he goes. You know, don't they say if you drink
the holy wine, right it it cleanses your soul by
the way to sinners talking right, that's right. He's like,
you take like a sip of that. Everything we've done wrong,
you know, is I was like, let's go. So we
go in and then we're like it's barely it doesn't
(30:40):
even taste like alcohol.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But you know, next thing we know, we got to
fucking fill up the thing. We drank so much. Now,
fifteen minutes later the police come. We started walking up.
I was holding the crucifix, and when I got to
the front, it was a funeral man. And when I
got to the front, you know, the bodies laid out
(31:03):
in a coffin in the center out with an Irish
flag on.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I got up there and I went to.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Put the thing in the crucifix in the holder, which
is right by the the pew facing the audience, and
it missed, and all of a sudden, I felt drunk
and I let it go and it hit one of
the big candles that was next all my.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And the candle hit the flag.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I was like, no, no fucking way, And at that moment,
the priest went over and grabbed it. When he was
grabbing the candle, and I was feeling like, who stralevitch,
Who's carrying the host.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Host stuff on the author flag?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
A movie?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was fucking I always wanted to put the movie,
so we barely made it through the mask. He excommunicated us.
After the communicating my relationship with the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Was were your parents super religious or was it just
kind of what you did?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Because they were they were, except I got in so
much trouble for that that I got to see behind
the curtain a little bit because my dad was like, listen,
he can't excommunicate you. That's fucking bullshit. You to have
a meeting with the month senior, and I'll never forget
this because the month senior goes to me, I'd never
been in the in these offices at directory. It's like
(32:32):
going behind the curtain at the Wizard of Us. And
the month Senior said to my dad in front of me,
he goes, this was this was a lot of money
at the time. He goes, if you give me two
hundred dollars in cash, I wipe his I wipe my dad.
My dad turned to me and he said get up.
(32:53):
And I thought, like, I'm really in trouble now. And
he grabbed my hand and we left, and uh, he said,
I'm not paying him two hundred dollars, you know, justlet's
forget about it. And he said, listen, there's all he
said to me. We were walking home. There's a few
blocks and you guys, listen, there's a lot of bullshit
that goes with this church and this is you just
(33:15):
saw some of it, so don't worry about it. You know,
I'm not going to pay the two hundred dollars. We'll
find something else. Yeah. So then they put me in the.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Choir board and that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I got kicked out for smoking. Right.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh God, I could I I wish I wish I
could just like see like a shortened documentary version of
you as a kid in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Going, I did just see it. Did you did all yours?
Did all the siblings get on? Were you guys close
enough in age to have that real kind of sibling
either rivalry or community?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
My older brother, we all, we all my cousins in America,
We all lived in the same neighbor We all went
to that school. So there was like seventeen of us
or something.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So, I mean that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, I mean everybody, Like my brother is married to
his high school sweetheart. My sister who's right behind me,
my Anne Marie, she's two years behind me. She married
my best friend.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So and they've been married like this entire time. Yeah.
Now we have one sister, my sister Betty, who's way
behind the rest of us. Yeah, it's like a you know,
she's probably I guess, about fourteen years behind me. So
she was have a surprise to us.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We were like living in a three decker and there
was like me and my brother in the attic. You know,
it's like there was no space. Yeah, so, oh, we're
gonna have another kid, Like, how are we going to
do that?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Have you ever been to the Tenement Museum in New York?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So I just went there with my kids. It's awesome
because you and I did the so my my my
other in law's Irish. My son is like, there's a
lot of the Irish with my kids. So we went
and did the Ireland. It's consorted the famine. They do
the basically what you do is it's a real it's
(35:12):
a historic building and they kept it very much the
way it was back in like the eighteen hundreds when
these Irish families came over and basically lived in this
big building. There's Irish families, a German family, mostly Germans,
but you go deep into this, the family of the
More family, and it was you know, when you think
(35:35):
about the Irish and the Italians coming over into America
very much second class citizens. Like the way they were
depicted in the you know, propaganda, the way that the
Irish were sort of seen in America. It's fascinating and
it's crazy. And these kids, these families for eight sometimes
(35:55):
eight kids in these tiny little apartments living in New York,
you know, coming over from America was like you you
and and like we're saying, generationally you sort of the Irish,
I mean, it made sense that your parents would be like, no,
we're gonna have another one.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Listen. That was nothing. There was a there were two
families in my neighborhood that you know, we all went
to the same school. Like I said, there was an
Italian family I think they had seventeen kids, and then
there was an Irish family that had I think fourteen, right,
and some of those married, and there was another family
of Sullivan's to that, and the family started inter the
(36:34):
kids started marrying. Yeah, but can you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Like that's that's weird?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Am I happenpy for the nuns in that school. Literally,
like every time you walked in from the from the
grammar school into the high school, they were like, oh
another Leary, Oh my god, another school, Oh my god,
Like they knew it must have been torture for.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That well, and you just found out that you're like
cousins with Conan, which I had Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Actually cousins, right, actual third cousins or something years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
In the nineties, right when I first got famous and
he got the show. My uh, I think it was
my uncle Patrick. My uncle Patrick was still alive, my
dad's oldest brother in Ireland, and he they had gotten
a satellite this so he could watch, you know, all
kinds of television. And he saw me on Conan. He
said to one of his kids, he's like that that
(37:30):
kid that's talking to Dennis. He reminds me of somebody.
And so my uncle Jerry from America came over to
visit shortly thereafter. He said, didn't you guys when you
first went to Worcester get a job from somebody and
then you were living in a in a three decker
that was that was rented out to the floor was
(37:52):
rented out to you by this Irish woman. And he said, yeah,
we did. He said that was that guy's mother or
granddad has granddaught That's.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
What it was.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So anyway, I get this phone call from my uncle
Jerry and he had written everything down and he shows
it to me. I had to go on Conan like
a month later for something. So I went on Conan
and I said, listen, Buba Buba. Buddy went, oh my god,
my aunt did live. My granddaunt did live in in Worcester,
in that neighborhood. And I was like, well, then if
(38:24):
you look at us, I mean he's all legs. I'm
all legs. Me think about it when you see when
you see it, he's got a bigger head than me.
But look at this is all it's always.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
So yeah, it really it's really wild.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, I know, what, did you have family in the
Mafia and the Irish Mafia?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Not that I know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Did you ever meet Whitey?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
No? But I knew some guys that worked for Whitey.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, Now when you look at your career, I had
this when I was in COVID where I was like
look to kind of reflecting on career, like and all
the things that I want to do and haven't done yet.
But you've done a lot, and I wonder like where
(39:19):
do you No of you guys, but I mean where
do you where? Do where?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Where?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
What is your heart in the most? Like where are
you happiest when you're working and being creative? Is it
in stand up? Is it in acting? Is it in writing?
Is it in story?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So you guys might be able to relate to this.
I also want to take this moment to say I
just remembered this when you were saying that. I saw
the episode of the Jimmy Fallon Music show that's my
g Oh yeah, the one that you guys were on
where you sang he gave you it was That's one
of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen. It was
Barry White or Barry Good and you have to sing back. Actually,
(40:01):
I mean, not only was it funny, but it was
really fucking amazing what you and you had to do.
Ariana Grande as as a ya. Anyway, I just remembered that.
So for me, uh and you guys might relate to
this because you both sing right. For me, I do
(40:22):
two stand up concerts a year. They're both for charity.
One is at the TD Garden and Boston. It's a
big gig, like you know, fifteen thousand people, and I
have my band there. I have to do the asshole
song otherwise people, but I bring some famous friends of
mine comedians on stage. But that that's every November, and
(40:43):
right after that, I do one for the Michael J.
Fox Foundation in New York. Right, they're like they're like
a week away from each other every year. That thing
of eight o'clock the show stars and boom. I opened
the show both shows, right, that thing of coming out
and fucking the crowd is there like that, And I
(41:06):
never do all material except for the asshole song like
I do all new stuff like that. Excitement is still
the greatest fucking high. Yeah, sing in the asshole song
with my band and you know, people spelling the asshole
word out at the I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's just I mean, look, we know a lot of
we know a lot of comedians, you know, and it
just seems like, no matter how successful they hit in
the other aspects of this business, they're always going to
go back on the road. I mean, we're great friends
with Sandler, right, Sandler doesn't need to go on the
fucking road, but he does. And by the way, his
special was amazing and Safty directed it and it was
(41:42):
just so different cool. But anyway, you know, it's just
I think you can't beat that as a comedian. You
probably listen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I love I love acting, and I love I mean,
you know, especially you guys know this when you're working
with people that you're having a fucking blot. Yeah, you're
working fast, Yeah, moves, there's some improv. Yeah, I fucking
love it. I lost it, right, But it's not the
same as you know, fucking the lights come on and
(42:09):
we're happy to see you, and but you got to
fucking deliver from eight o'clock until eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Are you are you doing? Are you shooting Dutch in Ireland? Yes,
it's fun. You know it's actually in Ireland. Yeah, shoot it. Yeah,
because I'm I have a I have a production deal
at Fox. We're in the second year of our of
our deal. And uh so I know Cheryl and everyone
very well and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So
but so I know all about what you guys have
(42:38):
been doing because they've been going back and forth. They've
been in Ireland, this, this and that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, and by the way, they have to say, I mean,
how is that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's great?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, it's great because my family I have some million cousins,
so they get to come visit set. But yeah, the
first thing I've done that my son produced, which is
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, I want to talk about that too, working with
your kid. He's he's on set.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
The writer is this guy Joel Church Cooper who did
him Brockmeyer with Hanka's Eric. So I love so he's
a brilliant writer. He has a brilliant staff, and so
he writes the pages and we do the pages. But
he's on set and he wants the actors to have input.
We shoot fast, so we get the page for the pages,
(43:23):
and then we fucking improvise front within that, not not
just jerking off. Yeah yeah, you know, like character driven,
you know, scene driven. We do improv almost every scene,
so fun. It's really electric. And he's in the other
room at the monitor with the other writers and Jack
and they we do something. They come up with an idea,
so it's really like electric. You go to work all
(43:46):
fucking day.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, yeah, a new idea.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Hey, what about it? I love it? I fucking love
How did.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You get to shoot in Ireland?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I mean, was that well, because it's set in it's
based on a real army base that that was in
another lands that got shut down. Yeah, because because of
what the show's about, like market stuff and prostitution and whatever. Anyways, uh,
because all that stuff's legal there. So we we were
(44:14):
you know, we wanted to look like the Netherlands. But
shooting there, I've shot a movie there and you know,
it's it's great, but it's not the same as shooting
in Ireland, which is it's a little bit faster and
overall better and it looks the same. It's all the
same plain in terms of planning, so the greens are
(44:36):
the same, the colors are the same, the weather is
the same, and the Ireland has just got great facilities.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's so beautiful. My I did. I just did a
film with Hugh Jackman, but he is now in Ireland
shooting and sends me these photographs that are just insane.
It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, the part where my parents are fun, which is
the Southwest. I know I'm prejudiced, but it's just yeah,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You know, also working with your self like like what
is that? Like, do you is it? Is it? Is
it challenging? Does he ever challenge you?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (45:15):
So it was interesting because we've been we've been developing
and working together. Uh you know, he's running one of
my companies, so creatively, I you know, I've been involved
with him on stuff, but I haven't acted in something
that we've done together yet. So this was and I
knew this was going to be because Joel church Cooper,
(45:35):
the creator, he likes to be on set and he liked,
like I said, he wanted he wanted input, So I
knew it was going to be kind of electric. My son,
you know, he would come in and like as a
producer with Joel and have an idea or and sometimes
he would go, hey, let me talk to you, Dennis.
(45:57):
Go listen that that thing is not working. That's let's
get rid of that. Try this. And I you know,
my son's very tall, so I'd be like, okay.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And then try it and he would be right.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Or sometimes he would come in and go, that was great, Dennis,
that was okay, got his job right. You know. The
first like a couple of episodes, I was like, this
is interesting. And then after a while I was like,
you know, he's he's basically right every time he told
me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
But you have that playful rapport where you fuck with
each other though, you know, is that is it playful?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
A little bit, not a lot, because it's we were
shooting so fast. Yeah, and uh but you know he listen, man,
he's he was doing the job too. Like I'm I'm
a producer, but I'm when I'm in the scene, I'm
just an actor. Yeah, somebody Joe will tell me like,
that's that sucks. That that's terrible. Let's let's go in
the other direction. On an improv thing, yeah, you know,
(46:55):
or even on a blocking thing. I'm like, try this.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, now, now do you guys. Do you guys, do
you guys live near each other? Do you live to
get you know, like off the set. He's your son,
So do you guys hang out? Do you go to
dinners or is it?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I didn't really sometimes, but he really, you know, we
didn't have a lot of time to hang out.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Like I got to direct. I got to direct my
dad in a short Kurt and oh it was so
much fun. But he gave me so much, like just
for just fun. Like he would sit behind me. He
wouldn't leave, so even if I was if I was directed,
you know, he could go home. He just wanted to
stay and watch me direct. So he'd sit behind me
(47:39):
at Video Village and he would he would just fuck
with me the whole time. He'd be like, you're sure
you don't want to get a cut away with that
ashbair just in case you lived in the editing room.
I'm like, Paul, no, I don't need it every time.
Be sure you don't want to come in from the window.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I never thought about the like I directed Paul in
that pilot presentation as well.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
He was awesome to direct.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah I have so you call him Paw yeah. Yeah.
He didn't want to be called dad because we had
a dad, and he didn't want to be called Kurt
because he was more than just Kurt. So we came
up with paw that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Can we just can I just say I love that
your commitment. Like you you do your charity. You're talking
about your charity gigs, but you've been working with firefighters
and supporting firefighters since like two thousand and How did
that come about for you?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Was it the show?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
The show?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Well, the show came after my cousin, Jerry Lucy wanted
to be a firefighter, you know, that was the thing
he wanted to do, and he had first he was
driving trucks, but he eventually took the fire test and
was on the waiting list and became a firefighter and
Worcester for the Worcester Fire Department, which is a very busy,
(48:55):
you know, urban department. And of all the guys we
grew up with, like literally like probably thirty five guys
between my class and my sister's in Mariice class and
my brother's class in high school, thirty five of those
guys became firefighters. So that whole department was full of
people we knew. So there was a huge, famous fire
(49:16):
that killed six guys in December of ninety nine. It
was a precursor almost to nine to eleven because it
was a huge warehouse downtown that floated, and my cousin, Jerry,
and his partner were the guys that were initially trapped.
They were looking for a homeless couple that they heard
were living in the building, but the homeless couple had
(49:39):
left the building. They didn't know that anyways. The four
other guys that went in to find them were led
by this guy, Tommy Spencer, who also grew up with us,
who went to school with us. He was at my class.
We started the foundation to help the Livery Firefighters Foundation
to help those families because there was I forget how
many kids were left behind of those six guys. And
(50:01):
then my cousin was like an adamant guy about funding
for the fire the Worcester Fire Department because they were
getting their budgets slashed all the time. So we were
just going to help that department. And then I had
a couple of really close friends in the New York
department and they had come up to help look for
the bodies in Worcester because it was the building collapsed
(50:24):
in on itself. So when nine to eleven it happened,
you know, they a couple of my friends survived, and
this one guy, Terry Quinn, said, you need to bring
the foundation here because we're going to have to help
this department and these families. So that's how we kind
of opened up, and then we've just been helping departments
(50:47):
ever since the year. It's crazy, by the way, because
we started twenty five years ago and the idea was
we'd go out of business, but they keep cutting fire
departments mean even the wildfires out here.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, where I live in the Palisades, and.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
So it's this department has been underfunded out here for years.
There are vehicles sitting unused, unfaced because there's no it's
a fixed So water is one issue, but the it's
it's big departments like the FD and Y and the
l A f D, the Boston they all have their
budgets cut. But it's also small, tiny, little departments. Yeah,
(51:26):
volunteer department world. So we haven't gone out of business
where we're giving out more money every year. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
It's amazing, that's great.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
I want you to come back with your son.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
That would be awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I just I just I just did a movie in
Toronto and I just got back with my son. Was
in it.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Really, your son's an actor.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
He is now.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, he is now and he did five times and
it was a real part. I worked nineteen days, the
kid worked twenty two days. So he was in the
fucking movie. And it was really an especial experience for me,
you know, to have him up there as a seventeen
year old kid living together. You know, I had this
and then we'll go. But I had this vision, you know,
(52:21):
like a montage where he's gonna we're gonna live together.
We're gonna have a couple of beers and we're gonna cuddle,
and he's gonna watch movies with me. He's gonna turn
back into a ten year old. Essentially, we're going to
have a snowball.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I was like, oh my god, it's gonna be amazing.
We're gonna bond. This is gonna be the greatest moment
of his life and my life. And we get there,
we get to the house. I overspent on a house
because I wanted to make it perfect for him and
he goes to his fucking room and the door closes.
I'm like, we're back in fucking la again. I'm like,
what is going on? What happened in the cuddles man?
And I invited him, like, come in my room, let's
(52:52):
watch a movie together, and he's just like, I'm okay,
I'm good guy. He the fuck no, I know, but
I had this vision that he's away from those friends.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
How was he set? Was he nervous?
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, he was a little nervous, but it was really
amazing to watch from day one till the last day
how he had gotten comfortable and just more in his
skin a little bit and less afraid. Because this was
he went from zero to sixty. He did an acting class,
he had an audition, and then Doug got the gig
and bang, he's on set and everyone was great. I
(53:27):
was me and Alia Silverstone and she was amazing with him,
and it was fucking rad. Yeah, he was a little nervous,
but it was really amazing to watch from day one
till the last day how he had gotten comfortable and
just more in his skin a little bit, and less afraid.
Because this was he went from zero to sixty. He
(53:48):
did an acting class. He had an audition and then
Doug got the gig and bang he's on set and
everyone was great. I was me and Alicia Silverstone and
she was amazing with him, and it was is fucking roun.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
My son. My son, on the other hand, is at
n y U Tish wants you know, is an actor
and is like in school and was and is like
just you know, more debt, more debt. And then Wilder
gets this job and he's like, are you fucking kidding
me right now? I was like, I'm just like, I'm like,
(54:24):
he gets a job, like I need money.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Exactly exactly. But it was a beautiful and amazing experience. Yeah,
you know for sure, you know, working with your.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Kids, Yeah, it's so fun. We we're so lucky to
do to be in a creative business and actually like
have work.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
We are lucky. But like you guys know, and he'll
find out, right, you have to not only be good, yeah,
and you know your craft, you have to get better,
keep getting better.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
That's what I say to my son all the time.
I'm like, it never it never changes. Your constantly constantly
learning new things, and you're always trying to be better
than the last time.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Like it's just And then then as far as the
nepotism shit goes to where I love what you said,
we're the least because yes, the foot can get in
the door, there's no doubt about that. But there's no
other business where you actually have to prove yourself to
actually make it. Meaning yeah, you know Kate's son, my son.
They can have the opportunity, but they still have to
be good. No one's gonna hire you.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
You can't force someone to like your art, right, You
can't force them to do it by the way.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You know, like when I like talking about that, when
my dad was a mechanic right by tray, but his
second job was like a handyman for a real estate company.
So he painted apartments and you know, did almost everything plumbing, electrical.
So my dad taught me how to paint apartments and
I work for him in the summer when I was
in high school, right, and he taught me how to
paint apartments and scrape and so basically he was telling
(55:50):
me like, listen, this is something if you do this
the right way, which I'm going to make you do,
this is something you can use. You can always paints always,
and so he was teaching me a craft, right that
he and he taught me the right way. And by
the way, I fucking did that. When I was in college.
My my work study job was painting the dorms when
they were empty during the summertime.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
I was really good at so, like you teach your kids,
you know.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Well, thank you so much for coming on for your
Yes we did. We got picked up last week. Yeah,
we're so excited.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, finished that show. It's really good.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You have a great cast.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Thanks. They just they entered the front door.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
Is the throw in all all the way through.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
In and out? Yeah, he's in and out of the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Ship. The fucking The thing that made me laugh so
hard was when he first gives you the team and
everybody else leaves the room and your little speech like
the fucking brothers are really funny to each other. It's
really fun.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
It's the best good show.
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And I just put beef tallow on my face.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh that's really good.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And Aaron has it my base. I just I love
the way it feels. It smiles, it smells like a cow.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I can give you stuff that's good. I do beef.
I do the tallow sunscreen because I think it's better
than regular sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I just don't wear sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, then you should do the tallow.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, but there's goin. There has to be flavored. Tello.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I am so excited about this person that we have
coming on today because it feels like it feels to
me like someone I grew up with. Oh yeah, because
he he was you know, we have Dennis Leary coming on,
and I feel like when we were kids, he was like.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah that you know, he was like the yeah, well
when he was doing comedy, it was sort of aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He was that eighties like punk yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, it was like it was that punk comedy.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Punk comedy. He just created that he was a punk comic.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I guess, let's see, let's see what he says.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Punk comedy. I seriously doubted.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But the thing is is I was. I was on
the plane with him, and I know you didn't even
I didn't say anything because I knew he's coming on
the podcast and then I'll bring us up with him.
But I'm sitting in first class. I come on the plane.
I actually saw Laurence Fishburne, who we call Fish, who
hadn't seen in a really long time, and Danny was
(02:08):
just like fanning out because he's such a Laurence fishman.
And then and then we're up in the at thirty
two thousand feet and I see this back of this
man's head going to the restroom, and I'm like, I
really recognize that person. And I recognized the back of
his like this is like the side of his very
distinguished back ahead with the thing. And then when he
(02:28):
was walking back, I was like, oh, it's Dennis Larry.
And then I wanted to say hi, but then I
felt weird. It felt weird because.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I want to say, you're going to be on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, and I didn't know if he was that kind
of guy.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, I think he is. I'm assuming he's a
nice person, but I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
See if he had the same feeling right now, like
do I say hello?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
What if he didn't even recognize what he might have
not even be the first question? Bring him on, let's
have this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What we were getting off the plane, that's when I
saw you and your daughter. Yeah, and I was like,
and then we both went out at the down the
stay airs and I was like, she's having I'm not
going to fucking interrupt her kid.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We are dancing.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
But yeah, I know, I'm hey, another celebrity.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's how I felt. But I saw you going to
the bathroom and then and then I actually recognized you
from kind of like a three quarter I was like,
oh my god, we're on the same flight and we're
going to talk in a couple of days. And then
I was like, I'm not going to say anything because
I didn't know. You know, some people are weird.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It seems like celebrity is there's this sort of thing
where if you see in another celebrity, whether you and
if if you don't know them, it's sort of okay
to approach them, right, But I wonder if that's teared out,
meaning if only A listers can talk to a listeners,
can you mix C and A you can see talk
to the Ayah, here's.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
The weird thing. Larry Fishburne was on that same flight.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Who I've known.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, so I've known Larry forever. So we talked because
when we were first getting on he fucked up his foot.
Yeah yeah, yeah, So we were talking about that and
I hadn't seen him in a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well that's what happened. When I saw him and he's like, hey, Kate,
I was like, oh my god. And he's the best,
Yes he is, but but then what happened to his foot?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The celebrities I don't know, especially when they're with their kids.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So I was like, I'm not gonna fucking bother.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, but is there is there is there one who
you would you know, whether it's like a you know,
a hockey player, someone who you admired tremendously who you
don't know, would you actually go up to that person?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I have? I think at this point I have too much.
If they have don't have a kid with them, it's
more likely that I might say, hey, Oliver, right, what's
going on right?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
More with sports people, like if it's a sports person,
I probably and I don't know them, I would I like,
I went.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Up to.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Red so yeah, but I saw him at a at
a Rams game, and I was like, I have to
have to say hello. And and of course he had
no idea who I who I was. Really, I didn't
think so because he was sort of just you know,
there was no it was no real connection.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
He was just all risk.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I was fine with it. I just had to meet him.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, I run that risk. But I don't like if
people have kids with him. I think it's kind of
like my unwritten rule is because I know my kids
when they were small, it was fucking pain in the
ass when you're trying to grab the kid or get
someplace off the plane or whatever. You don't want some
fucking other celebrity coming up, like you know.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So anyway, I feel like the person that is the
most intimidating like that is actually our dad, because kurt
Is just doesn't care about any of it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
No, I want to say one thing about your dad. Okay,
I've been a fan of your dad, for your dad
is a fucking great actor. Yeah, I've been your dad
for a long time and I'm a huge hockey thing.
That fucking your dad playing her Brooks because if you guys,
you probably are aware of it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But he fucking nailed crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And I know people talk about the speech, but god
damn it, every moment that when he shows up in
that movie, you go, anyways, I did it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
We're on a you know, like a there's a family
thread and there's all these fucking text threads everywhere, so
on sort of the dude, it's called the Olympians, right,
it's our thread. When when when USA was playing Canada,
I was working in Toronto, so I was there, you know,
I was in Canada, you know, when it was all
going down. But I was imagining if Kurt when they
(06:48):
were in Boston playing in the Garden came out, you
know before the game, would it would have been Mayhem, Mayhem.
But but I was talking about that just recently, and
that's such a you know, the performance is so insane
and it's underappreciated, Like there's no reason why he shouldn't
have been nominated for something. But he was made fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How the movie was you know, the movie as you
could tell from the first time I saw it, and
the director is a friend of mine. Book, Yeah, and
I knew what he was doing because he was as
he was starting it, he was like he wasn't casting stars. Really,
the only fucking star in the movie. And I was like,
fucking Kurt Russell's playing her Brooks and he at the time.
(07:31):
I had a conversation with him once they started shooting.
He's like, fucking Kurt Russell is fucking nailing this. Anyways,
I just I've seen it so many times, and I've
seen your dad do a million fucking things, and I
am a fan of his.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But yeah, it's one of the When I was doing
all the press for the show that I have out
right now on Netflix, I I get asked all the time, like,
what's your favorite sports movie?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I'm always like, the first, I at least saw
the first two episodes of your show. But it's fucking hilarious.
Oh the rogue doesn't. I mean, I know this's unfair,
but he doesn't count because he's supposed to be great.
Like I did, I wasn't aware enough of Brenda's song.
I literally wasn't paying enough attention because I was like,
(08:16):
holy fuck, this girl is great. The mothers are off. Guy,
the guy who's losing his hair.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh yeah, Scott MacArthur. He's so funny. You know, he's
in the camp. He's in the whole Danny McBride camp.
So he was on Righteous Gems. He writes on Righteous Gemstone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And you know what, yeah, well we're all call best friend.
Our kids go to school together. I've known Scottie forever,
so it's it's okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, it's like it's turned into family.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I was real quick going back to the Miracle. I
actually auditioned for that because I played hockey for eight years, right,
so I was like, I want to be in this
fucking movie. But I went through the whole process, of course,
the reading part, but I went through the process of
in the hockey, the skating, and these are all X pros,
you know may they were, they were, they were, you know,
national champions. I mean it was crazy and I'm this
(09:08):
like scrawny little dude doing doing corner drills or I'm
gonna get your murderater. I can skate, but I was
so scary. Really when they would throw the puck into
the corner, it's like blow the whistle and you're like, oh,
I'm going to get fucking killed right now. And I
was doing everything I can't. I could not to to
fights your whole wife. Yeah. And my brother why you know,
(09:30):
played professional goalie. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I dated professional hockey players many.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I just thought hockey players were cute, and I would.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Harry Oh's was the spot in Manhattan Beach where all
the hockey players went. My sister was there in like
a leopard print tight dress, completely blown out hair, cruising
in her white convertible Wrangler. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was a eighteen eighty nine saw that didn't work,
but it did. The top did go down. Yes, I
definitely hockey players thought I liked their energy. I was like,
when all my friends were going to clubs in Hollywood,
I was like, I'd much prefer to hang out with
people in Manhattan Beach who like grew up in Canada.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Hockey players. Hockey players are the best.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
They're the best. Are the best. You all know that, Yes,
the best.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And I think they also like come from like great
families and any family that is, I mean all of
them are. But there's something about like the hockey four
am wake up calls parents who are taking their kids
to the rank that early. They are so committed.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Kids played hockey when they were grown up.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So, yeah, Dennis, can I ask you a question if
you were to say what kind of comedian you are? Like,
like when you started doing stand up, we were kind
of trying to like talk about like what does someone
when they say, like what.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Kind are you class of?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Like how do you classify your comment?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because you had a really unique style that was well
so different from a lot of other I was considered, uh.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know, like edgy and rebellion like I didn't. I
never did my I didn't do it too. I came
from the theater, you know, I was studied. I was
in a college studying writing and acting, so you know,
I went into it because you know Stephen Wright, the comedian. Yeah,
So we went to college together and Stephen was just
(11:34):
a writer, you know, and he made little short films
and he was the shyest guy in the world, and
he lived around the corner. Once we graduated, he lived
around the corner from me, a couple of buildings away.
And then my girlfriend at the time was went to
a com a nightclub which was really a Chinese restaurant,
(11:57):
and she came back the next day and she goes, hey,
Stephen Wright got up at this talent show and did
jokes last night, and I was like, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I know? Right? He was such a brilliant comedian anyways,
if you know his act, his jokes were like haikuah. Anyway,
so I went over. I went over to see Steve
and I was like, did you fucking are you doing
jokes at a at a talent tone. He's like yeah.
So I went to see him and I was like,
he literally, I know this, It's this is like the
(12:29):
story of my life. I was like, fuck it. If
he can do it, I could And so that's how
I got into it. But I never wanted to do
talk shows like I wanted to. You know, the guys
I loved were Richard Pryor and George Carlin.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I saw this interview with Prior, like in nineteen seventy
nine and he said, yeah, the reason I changed my
act because he used to work like on the Ed
Sullivan Show and stuff, was because he said, I wanted
to start talking to the crowd the way I talked
to my friends in my living room. That's where I
was like, Oh, I'm just gonna fucking be that guy.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, but when you were coming up, you didn't That's
not what you were studying, right, That's not what you
wanted to do, or was it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No, I was going I wanted to be an actor,
and uh, I wanted to be a hockey player. But
I flunked off the fucking team my freshman year and
a nun stuck me in a musicle and I was like,
oh this started. Nun was like, I want you to
come after after class, the next to last class. You
(13:45):
got to skip one class, and she's like, I need
I need boys to lift up the girls when they're dancing.
So I go to this fucking thing fuck and I'm
like all the hottest girls in school and the nuns
like grab her by under the bosom and wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm like, you want me to grab the girl?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
So I was into show business starting.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
They're telling you to do something where you know, maybe
Jesus would frown upon.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But I guess I stayed friends with that none because
she got me my scholarship. She got me the audition
that got me the scholarship to go to Emerson College
and that changed my life. I mean that was just
like it was all.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Were you a good student?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
No? Not not in regular school. Like the first twelve
years I went to the same neighborhood school, all the
same nuns. We all all my brothers, my sisters, all
my cousins, and uh, you know, it's the seventies, so
it was like we didn't buy any of the bullshit.
We would just go. We had to go to that
school because that's where our parents made us go. So
(14:52):
school was great because it was girls and you know,
lots of other stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, so you were in school like so it was
like the.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Sac that wasn't Like I was good at the stuff
I liked, but I wasn't math, and so I knew
I wasn't gonna that ship. I didn't. It didn't thing
was like fuck you, yeah, but none. Putting me in
the musical that was huge. And then when I got
to college. I I loved college because it was all
acting and writing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Like how many how many kids? How many kids do
you have?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I have two kids.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
How old are they?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
My son is turning thirty five and my daughter is
just turned thirty three, So yeah, my son actually as
a producer. He developed the show I'm doing on Fox
and who I.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Want to we want to talk about that, you know,
I have a that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Was interesting, like, yeah, there was a TV writer.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So I want to go I want to go back
into your life for a second. But I just have
a question, like the fact just the way that you
raised your kids as far as education goes, knowing that
you were not strong and sort of you know, maybe
math and some of these sciences did you have. Did
you take that into account when your kids were going
through school? Were they good students and you were you
hard on them? You know, as far as their education goes,
(16:14):
knowing that you do what you do.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think my wife and I, you know, we both
were supposedly raised Catholic, so we both had that experience, right,
But at the same time we were also aware of
like like my wife loved the things that she loved
when she was in school, so we were aware of
(16:38):
that with the kids. Even though I remember a teacher
at their school saying to us, I think Jack was
probably in the fifth grade at that point, or maybe
the sixth, and this there was this very progressive teacher
who said, you know, we should be changing the way
we teach kids, it's very apparent by the time they
get to fifth or sixth grade what they're good at. Naturally,
(17:00):
we should let the kids focus on this stuff they're
good at instead of forcing them. I don't know. If
you guys were good at math, yes, I was like,
why am I learning this? Ship?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah yeah, I'm doing weirdly.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I was good at math really yeah, really like forty
eight but it was really that's it. The thing is
like it all went out the window, right, But like,
if you gave me an equation, like as long as
I knew the system, I could do it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But see here's the thing, right, if you gave me
if math was reciting hockey and baseball and football and
basketball stats, I would have been fucking great at yeah. Right.
It wasn't like all these weird like once they got
the long division, I'm like, fuck you, am I going
to use it?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's how you sound like my middle my middle my daughter.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I just dropped off at school and it's like I
have a math test today and I don't know. I
was like, just stay your best, and I was like
what if what if I don't you know? I'm like,
who cares like you do your best I have three
catus three as well.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We're both we have three both two same, two boys older,
and then the baby is are girls.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah oh wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah. It's kind of a foregone conclusion what everyone's going
to do. They all want to be in this business
one way or Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's so interesting that when you grow you know, like,
I mean, you know, when I was I was doing
an interview with Jeanie Buss, who's the president of the Lakers,
and she said, you know, statistically most kids get into
the family business, like it's like an eighty percent or something. Crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, which, well that's why this whole like, you know,
I know, it's sort of not here anymore, this whole
like sort of nepo baby wave that kind of crashed
over everything. It was so focused on Hollywood because it's
it's something that out there people know who we are.
But that nepotism exists in every fucking industry.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh my god, get about it. Probably the least nepo
business is our business. Restaurant business, oh, the painting, but
landscaping buck you know, garage is mechanics. I mean, my
dad was a mechanic by trade. You know, by the way,
my parents were immigrants from Ireland, right, the idea that
(19:26):
my parents when I said, I remember the conversation with
my dad and I said, He's like, what do you
think you want to do it? Once cocky was definitely
not happening. I think I want to do this acting thing.
This is when I was in high school. And he
was like, oh, that's interesting. And he never bat he
never batted an eye about Wow. He was like, yeah,
(19:47):
we don't have the money to send you to college,
but if you can get a scholarship of book and
then he would come every show I did in college,
him and my mom came to. I mean I was
I was going to college in Boston. They lived in Worcester,
so it was like he came to every fucking show. Yeah. Wow,
I like this. I really loved that part. That guy
is great. She's terrific.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like wow, I feel like.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
The Irish are very creative though. I mean, I I've
spent some time in Ireland when I was younger, and
it is such an artistic country. Like I feel like
every family has an artist in the family, you know,
whether it's music, painting.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Was also a good musician, so yeah, that feed a
family in America. But he could basically play any instrument
he wanted to play. He played in bands on the weekends,
like at weddings and stuff like that. I think for him,
he never said this to me, but I always thought
he was like, Oh, there's at least one that's gonna.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, well let's go into that.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So you grew up in Worcester, Mass I played, I
did it. I did Dawson's Creek for a year, and
my character was Eddie Doling from Worcester. Oh really, it
was from Worcester. And then my in laws, you know,
they're all they're from Brockton. So my yeah, my in
(21:10):
laws are from Brockton, thick thick, thick accents. They live
in Falmouth. They live in Falmouth now, and so I'm
there for about a month every summer. Yeah, isn't your dad.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wasn't your dad born in fucking the Springfield or some ship?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So my my wife and
they grew up in Long Meadow. I mean eventually they
moved to Long Meadow, which is of course next door
to Springfield. And I guess something like you know, Kurt's
great uncle like discovered Springfield or something.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Crazy really always something. I don't know, there's always something yea.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So just so you guys probably maybe, but yeah, Massachusetts,
fucking you know. Uh, the way the system worked is
Boston of course is like Boston, and they look down
on Boston and Worcester, but we look down on spring Field,
and we all looked down on Brockton and Lowell right
by the way, like us looking down on other people. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So, your parents, so they immigrated. How old were they
when they immigrated from Ireland? To know?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
My dad came in nineteen fifty so or forty nine,
so he was like he would have been like in
his early twenties. And then my parents come from the
same village in Killarney. So he came to America to
New York to make enough money to send to pay
for her boat. They came by boat so that she
(22:39):
could come by boat. And then and they came to
she came to New York. But then they ended up
in Worcester because there was a job up there.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Were they already married.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
They got married here in America.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's crazy, right, Do you have your Irish passport? I do,
and my kids have Irish and my son's about to
get his being Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's
his dad's Irish. His dad's English but from Ireland, like
the family.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Really, it's a great thing for kids because they can
work over their European Union. You know, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, for sure, we've got to get our Italian one.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
We're in the process of looking into our Italian We're
we are our dads Sicilian.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I had no idea you guys were Sicilian.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, well, I Allie looks Italian. I don't. I got
kind of the Hungarian side, I think more. Although I
just looked at a picture of my grandmother, my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
That yeah, it's crazy. I actually looked like that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
It was like, weirded me out, Uncle mar Yeah, Sarah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So we're half weird, right, Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And I saw that picture and I was like, oh
my god, it looks so much like my grandma.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now we're getting in touch with our half siblings and
our cousins and things are sort of coming together.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Dynamic for you. I mean, it's amazing that you guys
grew up. Ah. You know, actually, like with Kurt as your.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Dad, we were very lucky. I had this, you know,
after Gene Hackman died, there was this thing of him
going around on the Actors Studio talking about when his
dad left and every once in a while, like saw
that every time, you know, and it really got it
got him, you know, in that and everyone's I'll see
(24:31):
something like that, and it does. I get that, Like
it just never goes away. That like that little thing
of abandonment.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You saw him get. You saw him sort of like
sort of fall into it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Just because because it's it's it's like your foundation, you know,
and it's really it really got me when I was
looking at that, because it was like, God, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
People, I'm not judging anybody. Once you have kids, I
just can't imagine. Yeah, ever, yes, yeah, I mean fuck,
I mean, god, damn.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Now I can have more understanding now that we're reconnecting
with our father.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You know, it's complicated. Well, there's the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Patterns connecting with your dad now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's patterns, right, And our grandfather left
our dad, you know, and then showed up later on
in his life and then you know, dad obviously didn't
have the tools to deal with that that trauma and
that pain, you know, in the fifties and so he
sort of repeated that pattern. I remember as a young
boy thinking I'm going to have kids, can wait to
(25:38):
have kids, and there's no world where I will leave
my children. So you can either continue down that road
and sort of you know, that pattern exists, or you
can try to break the cycle. And I think that
Katie and I were definitely we broke that cycle.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I have attempted abandoning my kids a couple of.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Hours trying to cry, or like walking.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Through the airport I see like air France, just like
just book it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
What happened to mom? I don't know the airport and
air France flight. I've never seen her yet. No, But
you know, it's interesting because it's it is you know,
you I get every I guess everybody's capacity is just
different based on how they grew up. And now that
(26:49):
like we're reconnecting, it's just sort of you know, I
guess I have more empathy or sort of understanding weirdly,
you know, forget well, I.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Know this stuff. Listen. I'm not I'm you know, uh,
no expert by any means, but you know, this generational
trauma thing is true, right, They very specific of events
like that, like you're talking about an event where the
guy just takes off. You know, there's other things that
that get passed into through our DNA, right generationally, So
(27:25):
it's like that makes sense, but that an external event
like that, like that a decision?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah right yeah, yeah, well nature nurture thing. You know,
how much of that is just a part of our
DNA and how much of it is completely learned behavior?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, it's probably both, right, both.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, it has to be with.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Your mother and your father that you were with, right yeah,
and with like you learned the good side.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Right, Yeah, let's go back to your family and and
enough about our abandonment.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Your problems is your generation. What's going on? There's gotta
be something.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Going to school? The nuns could still fucking hit you?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Oh god, really were you? Were you one that did
get hit often?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Uh? Well, listen, I was a terror. Every time I
got hit, I probably had a coming. But I did
some amazing fucking things. They are very famous in my family. Like,
uh I was, Uh, it was. It was a great
thing that I don't know if you guys know this,
but if you're an altar boy, uh, you get paid
(28:45):
in cash for doing funeral masses and wedding masses.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
So yeah, it's like they give the money to the priest,
and the priest you know, tips out to the you know.
It's like it's like the mafia.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It sounds like it's on the table.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
You you get your your cut. So I got into
the Altar Boys. My brother was my brother's three years
older than me. My my brother we share a room
together growing up all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
How many siblings four?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So, uh, my brother and I always had a we
in the We lived in an apartment first, and we
were in the attic of the it was a three
decker it's actually two and a half decker. My brother
and I were in the attic, and then when we moved,
my brother and I were in the basement. So we
were always together and we you know, went to school
together and everything. All the same friends and brothers of like,
(29:35):
all his best friends they're my best friends, were their brothers. Right.
So anyways, my brother got me in the Altar Boys,
which was fucking great, great cat. Yeah. Anyways, this fucking
priest was late one day for one of the masses
and me and this Polish kid, uh, the the other
(29:55):
priest came in and put out the holy wine, which
normally the priests, saying the mask would take that out.
At the last second, he took it out and left it.
He said, Father Donny was going to be lady being
above fifteen. Just hang on, we're standing there. I'm telling
you this has made so much sense. At the time,
stra Levitz goes, John stra Levitz was his name. He goes, uh,
(30:18):
he goes. You know, don't they say if you drink
the holy wine, right it it cleanses your soul by
the way to sinners talking right, that's right. He's like,
you take like a sip of that. Everything we've done wrong,
you know, is I was like, let's go. So we
go in and then we're like it's barely it doesn't
(30:40):
even taste like alcohol.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
But you know, next thing we know, we got to
fucking fill up the thing. We drank so much. Now,
fifteen minutes later the police come. We started walking up.
I was holding the crucifix, and when I got to
the front, it was a funeral man. And when I
got to the front, you know, the bodies laid out
(31:03):
in a coffin in the center out with an Irish
flag on.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I got up there and I went to.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Put the thing in the crucifix in the holder, which
is right by the the pew facing the audience, and
it missed, and all of a sudden, I felt drunk
and I let it go and it hit one of
the big candles that was next all my.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And the candle hit the flag.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I was like, no, no fucking way, And at that moment,
the priest went over and grabbed it. When he was
grabbing the candle, and I was feeling like, who stralevitch,
Who's carrying the host.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Host stuff on the author flag?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
A movie?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It was fucking I always wanted to put the movie,
so we barely made it through the mask. He excommunicated us.
After the communicating my relationship with the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Was were your parents super religious or was it just
kind of what you did?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Because they were they were, except I got in so
much trouble for that that I got to see behind
the curtain a little bit because my dad was like, listen,
he can't excommunicate you. That's fucking bullshit. You to have
a meeting with the month senior, and I'll never forget
this because the month senior goes to me, I'd never
been in the in these offices at directory. It's like
(32:32):
going behind the curtain at the Wizard of Us. And
the month Senior said to my dad in front of me,
he goes, this was this was a lot of money
at the time. He goes, if you give me two
hundred dollars in cash, I wipe his I wipe my dad.
My dad turned to me and he said get up.
(32:53):
And I thought, like, I'm really in trouble now. And
he grabbed my hand and we left, and uh, he said,
I'm not paying him two hundred dollars, you know, justlet's
forget about it. And he said, listen, there's all he
said to me. We were walking home. There's a few
blocks and you guys, listen, there's a lot of bullshit
that goes with this church and this is you just
(33:15):
saw some of it, so don't worry about it. You know,
I'm not going to pay the two hundred dollars. We'll
find something else. Yeah. So then they put me in the.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Choir board and that's right.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I got kicked out for smoking. Right.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh God, I could I I wish I wish I
could just like see like a shortened documentary version of
you as a kid in Boston.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Going, I did just see it. Did you did all yours?
Did all the siblings get on? Were you guys close
enough in age to have that real kind of sibling
either rivalry or community?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
My older brother, we all, we all my cousins in America,
We all lived in the same neighbor We all went
to that school. So there was like seventeen of us
or something.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So, I mean that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, I mean everybody, Like my brother is married to
his high school sweetheart. My sister who's right behind me,
my Anne Marie, she's two years behind me. She married
my best friend.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So and they've been married like this entire time. Yeah.
Now we have one sister, my sister Betty, who's way
behind the rest of us. Yeah, it's like a you know,
she's probably I guess, about fourteen years behind me. So
she was have a surprise to us.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We were like living in a three decker and there
was like me and my brother in the attic. You know,
it's like there was no space. Yeah, so, oh, we're
gonna have another kid, Like, how are we going to
do that?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Have you ever been to the Tenement Museum in New York?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So I just went there with my kids. It's awesome
because you and I did the so my my my
other in law's Irish. My son is like, there's a
lot of the Irish with my kids. So we went
and did the Ireland. It's consorted the famine. They do
the basically what you do is it's a real it's
(35:12):
a historic building and they kept it very much the
way it was back in like the eighteen hundreds when
these Irish families came over and basically lived in this
big building. There's Irish families, a German family, mostly Germans,
but you go deep into this, the family of the
More family, and it was you know, when you think
(35:35):
about the Irish and the Italians coming over into America
very much second class citizens. Like the way they were
depicted in the you know, propaganda, the way that the
Irish were sort of seen in America. It's fascinating and
it's crazy. And these kids, these families for eight sometimes
(35:55):
eight kids in these tiny little apartments living in New York,
you know, coming over from America was like you you
and and like we're saying, generationally you sort of the Irish,
I mean, it made sense that your parents would be like, no,
we're gonna have another one.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Listen. That was nothing. There was a there were two
families in my neighborhood that you know, we all went
to the same school. Like I said, there was an
Italian family I think they had seventeen kids, and then
there was an Irish family that had I think fourteen, right,
and some of those married, and there was another family
of Sullivan's to that, and the family started inter the
(36:34):
kids started marrying. Yeah, but can you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Like that's that's weird?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Am I happenpy for the nuns in that school. Literally,
like every time you walked in from the from the
grammar school into the high school, they were like, oh
another Leary, Oh my god, another school, Oh my god,
Like they knew it must have been torture for.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That well, and you just found out that you're like
cousins with Conan, which I had Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Actually cousins, right, actual third cousins or something years ago.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
In the nineties, right when I first got famous and
he got the show. My uh, I think it was
my uncle Patrick. My uncle Patrick was still alive, my
dad's oldest brother in Ireland, and he they had gotten
a satellite this so he could watch, you know, all
kinds of television. And he saw me on Conan. He
said to one of his kids, he's like that that
(37:30):
kid that's talking to Dennis. He reminds me of somebody.
And so my uncle Jerry from America came over to
visit shortly thereafter. He said, didn't you guys when you
first went to Worcester get a job from somebody and
then you were living in a in a three decker
that was that was rented out to the floor was
(37:52):
rented out to you by this Irish woman. And he said, yeah,
we did. He said that was that guy's mother or
granddad has granddaught That's.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
What it was.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So anyway, I get this phone call from my uncle
Jerry and he had written everything down and he shows
it to me. I had to go on Conan like
a month later for something. So I went on Conan
and I said, listen, Buba Buba. Buddy went, oh my god,
my aunt did live. My granddaunt did live in in Worcester,
in that neighborhood. And I was like, well, then if
(38:24):
you look at us, I mean he's all legs. I'm
all legs. Me think about it when you see when
you see it, he's got a bigger head than me.
But look at this is all it's always.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
So yeah, it really it's really wild.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, I know, what, did you have family in the
Mafia and the Irish Mafia?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Not that I know.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Did you ever meet Whitey?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
No? But I knew some guys that worked for Whitey.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, Now when you look at your career, I had
this when I was in COVID where I was like
look to kind of reflecting on career, like and all
the things that I want to do and haven't done yet.
But you've done a lot, and I wonder like where
(39:19):
do you No of you guys, but I mean where
do you where? Do where?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Where?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
What is your heart in the most? Like where are
you happiest when you're working and being creative? Is it
in stand up? Is it in acting? Is it in writing?
Is it in story?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So you guys might be able to relate to this.
I also want to take this moment to say I
just remembered this when you were saying that. I saw
the episode of the Jimmy Fallon Music show that's my
g Oh yeah, the one that you guys were on
where you sang he gave you it was That's one
of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen. It was
Barry White or Barry Good and you have to sing back. Actually,
(40:01):
I mean, not only was it funny, but it was
really fucking amazing what you and you had to do.
Ariana Grande as as a ya. Anyway, I just remembered that.
So for me, uh and you guys might relate to
this because you both sing right. For me, I do
(40:22):
two stand up concerts a year. They're both for charity.
One is at the TD Garden and Boston. It's a
big gig, like you know, fifteen thousand people, and I
have my band there. I have to do the asshole
song otherwise people, but I bring some famous friends of
mine comedians on stage. But that that's every November, and
(40:43):
right after that, I do one for the Michael J.
Fox Foundation in New York. Right, they're like they're like
a week away from each other every year. That thing
of eight o'clock the show stars and boom. I opened
the show both shows, right, that thing of coming out
and fucking the crowd is there like that, And I
(41:06):
never do all material except for the asshole song like
I do all new stuff like that. Excitement is still
the greatest fucking high. Yeah, sing in the asshole song
with my band and you know, people spelling the asshole
word out at the I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's just I mean, look, we know a lot of
we know a lot of comedians, you know, and it
just seems like, no matter how successful they hit in
the other aspects of this business, they're always going to
go back on the road. I mean, we're great friends
with Sandler, right, Sandler doesn't need to go on the
fucking road, but he does. And by the way, his
special was amazing and Safty directed it and it was
(41:42):
just so different cool. But anyway, you know, it's just
I think you can't beat that as a comedian. You
probably listen.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
I love I love acting, and I love I mean,
you know, especially you guys know this when you're working
with people that you're having a fucking blot. Yeah, you're
working fast, Yeah, moves, there's some improv. Yeah, I fucking
love it. I lost it, right, But it's not the
same as you know, fucking the lights come on and
(42:09):
we're happy to see you, and but you got to
fucking deliver from eight o'clock until eleven.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Are you are you doing? Are you shooting Dutch in Ireland? Yes,
it's fun. You know it's actually in Ireland. Yeah, shoot it. Yeah,
because I'm I have a I have a production deal
at Fox. We're in the second year of our of
our deal. And uh so I know Cheryl and everyone
very well and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So
but so I know all about what you guys have
(42:38):
been doing because they've been going back and forth. They've
been in Ireland, this, this and that.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah, and by the way, they have to say, I mean,
how is that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's great?
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Well, it's great because my family I have some million cousins,
so they get to come visit set. But yeah, the
first thing I've done that my son produced, which is
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah, I want to talk about that too, working with
your kid. He's he's on set.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
The writer is this guy Joel Church Cooper who did
him Brockmeyer with Hanka's Eric. So I love so he's
a brilliant writer. He has a brilliant staff, and so
he writes the pages and we do the pages. But
he's on set and he wants the actors to have input.
We shoot fast, so we get the page for the pages,
(43:23):
and then we fucking improvise front within that, not not
just jerking off. Yeah yeah, you know, like character driven,
you know, scene driven. We do improv almost every scene,
so fun. It's really electric. And he's in the other
room at the monitor with the other writers and Jack
and they we do something. They come up with an idea,
so it's really like electric. You go to work all
(43:46):
fucking day.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, yeah, a new idea.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Hey, what about it? I love it? I fucking love
How did.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
You get to shoot in Ireland?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I mean, was that well, because it's set in it's
based on a real army base that that was in
another lands that got shut down. Yeah, because because of
what the show's about, like market stuff and prostitution and whatever. Anyways, uh,
because all that stuff's legal there. So we we were
(44:14):
you know, we wanted to look like the Netherlands. But
shooting there, I've shot a movie there and you know,
it's it's great, but it's not the same as shooting
in Ireland, which is it's a little bit faster and
overall better and it looks the same. It's all the
same plain in terms of planning, so the greens are
(44:36):
the same, the colors are the same, the weather is
the same, and the Ireland has just got great facilities.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
It's so beautiful. My I did. I just did a
film with Hugh Jackman, but he is now in Ireland
shooting and sends me these photographs that are just insane.
It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, the part where my parents are fun, which is
the Southwest. I know I'm prejudiced, but it's just yeah,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You know, also working with your self like like what
is that? Like, do you is it? Is it? Is
it challenging? Does he ever challenge you?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (45:15):
So it was interesting because we've been we've been developing
and working together. Uh you know, he's running one of
my companies, so creatively, I you know, I've been involved
with him on stuff, but I haven't acted in something
that we've done together yet. So this was and I
knew this was going to be because Joel church Cooper,
(45:35):
the creator, he likes to be on set and he liked,
like I said, he wanted he wanted input, So I
knew it was going to be kind of electric. My son,
you know, he would come in and like as a
producer with Joel and have an idea or and sometimes
he would go, hey, let me talk to you, Dennis.
(45:57):
Go listen that that thing is not working. That's let's
get rid of that. Try this. And I you know,
my son's very tall, so I'd be like, okay.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
And then try it and he would be right.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Or sometimes he would come in and go, that was great, Dennis,
that was okay, got his job right. You know. The
first like a couple of episodes, I was like, this
is interesting. And then after a while I was like,
you know, he's he's basically right every time he told
me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
But you have that playful rapport where you fuck with
each other though, you know, is that is it playful?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
A little bit, not a lot, because it's we were
shooting so fast. Yeah, and uh but you know he listen, man,
he's he was doing the job too. Like I'm I'm
a producer, but I'm when I'm in the scene, I'm
just an actor. Yeah, somebody Joe will tell me like,
that's that sucks. That that's terrible. Let's let's go in
the other direction. On an improv thing, yeah, you know,
(46:55):
or even on a blocking thing. I'm like, try this.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, now, now do you guys. Do you guys, do
you guys live near each other? Do you live to
get you know, like off the set. He's your son,
So do you guys hang out? Do you go to
dinners or is it?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I didn't really sometimes, but he really, you know, we
didn't have a lot of time to hang out.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Like I got to direct. I got to direct my
dad in a short Kurt and oh it was so
much fun. But he gave me so much, like just
for just fun. Like he would sit behind me. He
wouldn't leave, so even if I was if I was directed,
you know, he could go home. He just wanted to
stay and watch me direct. So he'd sit behind me
(47:39):
at Video Village and he would he would just fuck
with me the whole time. He'd be like, you're sure
you don't want to get a cut away with that
ashbair just in case you lived in the editing room.
I'm like, Paul, no, I don't need it every time.
Be sure you don't want to come in from the window.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I never thought about the like I directed Paul in
that pilot presentation as well.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
He was awesome to direct.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah I have so you call him Paw yeah. Yeah.
He didn't want to be called dad because we had
a dad, and he didn't want to be called Kurt
because he was more than just Kurt. So we came
up with paw that's yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Can we just can I just say I love that
your commitment. Like you you do your charity. You're talking
about your charity gigs, but you've been working with firefighters
and supporting firefighters since like two thousand and How did
that come about for you?
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Was it the show?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
The show?
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Well, the show came after my cousin, Jerry Lucy wanted
to be a firefighter, you know, that was the thing
he wanted to do, and he had first he was
driving trucks, but he eventually took the fire test and
was on the waiting list and became a firefighter and
Worcester for the Worcester Fire Department, which is a very busy,
(48:55):
you know, urban department. And of all the guys we
grew up with, like literally like probably thirty five guys
between my class and my sister's in Mariice class and
my brother's class in high school, thirty five of those
guys became firefighters. So that whole department was full of
people we knew. So there was a huge, famous fire
(49:16):
that killed six guys in December of ninety nine. It
was a precursor almost to nine to eleven because it
was a huge warehouse downtown that floated, and my cousin, Jerry,
and his partner were the guys that were initially trapped.
They were looking for a homeless couple that they heard
were living in the building, but the homeless couple had
(49:39):
left the building. They didn't know that anyways. The four
other guys that went in to find them were led
by this guy, Tommy Spencer, who also grew up with us,
who went to school with us. He was at my class.
We started the foundation to help the Livery Firefighters Foundation
to help those families because there was I forget how
many kids were left behind of those six guys. And
(50:01):
then my cousin was like an adamant guy about funding
for the fire the Worcester Fire Department because they were
getting their budgets slashed all the time. So we were
just going to help that department. And then I had
a couple of really close friends in the New York
department and they had come up to help look for
the bodies in Worcester because it was the building collapsed
(50:24):
in on itself. So when nine to eleven it happened,
you know, they a couple of my friends survived, and
this one guy, Terry Quinn, said, you need to bring
the foundation here because we're going to have to help
this department and these families. So that's how we kind
of opened up, and then we've just been helping departments
(50:47):
ever since the year. It's crazy, by the way, because
we started twenty five years ago and the idea was
we'd go out of business, but they keep cutting fire
departments mean even the wildfires out here.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Yeah, where I live in the Palisades, and.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
So it's this department has been underfunded out here for years.
There are vehicles sitting unused, unfaced because there's no it's
a fixed So water is one issue, but the it's
it's big departments like the FD and Y and the
l A f D, the Boston they all have their
budgets cut. But it's also small, tiny, little departments. Yeah,
(51:26):
volunteer department world. So we haven't gone out of business
where we're giving out more money every year. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
It's amazing, that's great.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
I want you to come back with your son.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
That would be awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
I just I just I just did a movie in
Toronto and I just got back with my son. Was
in it.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Really, your son's an actor.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
He is now.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, he is now and he did five times and
it was a real part. I worked nineteen days, the
kid worked twenty two days. So he was in the
fucking movie. And it was really an especial experience for me,
you know, to have him up there as a seventeen
year old kid living together. You know, I had this
and then we'll go. But I had this vision, you know,
(52:21):
like a montage where he's gonna we're gonna live together.
We're gonna have a couple of beers and we're gonna cuddle,
and he's gonna watch movies with me. He's gonna turn
back into a ten year old. Essentially, we're going to
have a snowball.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I was like, oh my god, it's gonna be amazing.
We're gonna bond. This is gonna be the greatest moment
of his life and my life. And we get there,
we get to the house. I overspent on a house
because I wanted to make it perfect for him and
he goes to his fucking room and the door closes.
I'm like, we're back in fucking la again. I'm like,
what is going on? What happened in the cuddles man?
And I invited him, like, come in my room, let's
(52:52):
watch a movie together, and he's just like, I'm okay,
I'm good guy. He the fuck no, I know, but
I had this vision that he's away from those friends.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
How was he set? Was he nervous?
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, he was a little nervous, but it was really
amazing to watch from day one till the last day
how he had gotten comfortable and just more in his
skin a little bit and less afraid. Because this was
he went from zero to sixty. He did an acting class,
he had an audition, and then Doug got the gig
and bang, he's on set and everyone was great. I
(53:27):
was me and Alia Silverstone and she was amazing with him,
and it was fucking rad. Yeah, he was a little nervous,
but it was really amazing to watch from day one
till the last day how he had gotten comfortable and
just more in his skin a little bit, and less afraid.
Because this was he went from zero to sixty. He
(53:48):
did an acting class. He had an audition and then
Doug got the gig and bang he's on set and
everyone was great. I was me and Alicia Silverstone and
she was amazing with him, and it was is fucking roun.
Speaker 3 (54:01):
My son. My son, on the other hand, is at
n y U Tish wants you know, is an actor
and is like in school and was and is like
just you know, more debt, more debt. And then Wilder
gets this job and he's like, are you fucking kidding
me right now? I was like, I'm just like, I'm like,
(54:24):
he gets a job, like I need money.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
Exactly exactly. But it was a beautiful and amazing experience. Yeah,
you know for sure, you know, working with your.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Kids, Yeah, it's so fun. We we're so lucky to
do to be in a creative business and actually like
have work.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
We are lucky. But like you guys know, and he'll
find out, right, you have to not only be good, yeah,
and you know your craft, you have to get better,
keep getting better.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
That's what I say to my son all the time.
I'm like, it never it never changes. Your constantly constantly
learning new things, and you're always trying to be better
than the last time.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Like it's just And then then as far as the
nepotism shit goes to where I love what you said,
we're the least because yes, the foot can get in
the door, there's no doubt about that. But there's no
other business where you actually have to prove yourself to
actually make it. Meaning yeah, you know Kate's son, my son.
They can have the opportunity, but they still have to
be good. No one's gonna hire you.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
You can't force someone to like your art, right, You
can't force them to do it by the way.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You know, like when I like talking about that, when
my dad was a mechanic right by tray, but his
second job was like a handyman for a real estate company.
So he painted apartments and you know, did almost everything plumbing, electrical.
So my dad taught me how to paint apartments and
I work for him in the summer when I was
in high school, right, and he taught me how to
paint apartments and scrape and so basically he was telling
(55:50):
me like, listen, this is something if you do this
the right way, which I'm going to make you do,
this is something you can use. You can always paints always,
and so he was teaching me a craft, right that
he and he taught me the right way. And by
the way, I fucking did that. When I was in college.
My my work study job was painting the dorms when
they were empty during the summertime.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
I was really good at so, like you teach your kids,
you know.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
Well, thank you so much for coming on for your
Yes we did. We got picked up last week. Yeah,
we're so excited.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, finished that show. It's really good.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You have a great cast.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Thanks. They just they entered the front door.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
Is the throw in all all the way through.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
In and out? Yeah, he's in and out of the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
Ship. The fucking The thing that made me laugh so
hard was when he first gives you the team and
everybody else leaves the room and your little speech like
the fucking brothers are really funny to each other. It's
really fun.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
It's the best good show.
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Kate Hudson
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