April 1, 2024 • 55 mins
Oliver goes on an apology tour after his casual comments were turned into clickbait.What did he really mean about "childhood trauma?"Kate talks about her own 'perceived' parenting mistakes and the buzzwords that are taken out of context.
Plus, the Kate and Oliver are joined by skiing legend Lindsey Vonn. In this episode, Lindsey talks about climbing a male dominated sport, the crashes, and the secret she learned about her own triplet siblings later in life!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely. That's good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Pull.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I'm very excited to talk to our next guest.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But before we talk to Lindsay, who actually I've actually
spent some time with her.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Mm hm Lindsay Von Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and and and she's great. She's so super cool
and I just really dig her. But we gotta like, we.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Gotta what no, go ahead, she's I was just gonna say,
she's an icon. But let's so let's get into what
the hell you're going to talk about right now.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I leave you alone for like one episode.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hold on, we're gonna do this difference to your own device.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We're gonna we're going to do this differently, okay, instead
of our typical intro, I'm going to be a guest
on the Kate Hudson Podcast for the next seven minutes.
And it's an it's it's a it's it's an apology
tour or however we want to call it and go ahead.
Intro me intro, I'm on the show, and then you
can start asking me questions.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
First of all, I remember, you know, I've been shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
My show for Netflix, the Basketball Show, and I couldn't
do the Body Miller podcast with you, which was great
because Aaron was able to do it. But then like
I start seeing all the clips and I'm like, oh God, Oliver,
this is going to be a headline.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And I knew it immediately mm hmm, and I was like, god,
you just you you you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was such clickbait words like I and I'm like,
I can't leave my brother alone for a second, so
let's just talk about this for five seconds, because we
know if we're going to talk about our parents, everyone's
gonna tell it's going to end up showing up on like,
you know, a slow news day, which is weird because
(02:22):
this in the world today, there's no such.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Thing as the slow news day, right.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But you got you got in a little bit of
heat from Mom about you know, your trauma comment. Yeah,
because it became a clickbait headline versus a context of
what you were saying. I think that the interesting thing
(02:49):
is is that what you were saying was actually a
really interesting thing about yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm even afraid to talk about it
to a flame this even more because everything is taken
so far out of context. And again, like you said,
they're using these buzzwords to then create and frankenstein a
sentence together for a click. If you listen to the
whole thing, it's more about sort of my child feelings
(03:19):
in that moment rather than me and how I feel
about mom as a parent. I don't know who I
would be without my mother. I mean I really I
can't even fathom it. The love that I have for
her and the respect and their reverence that I have
for her is beyond anything. So it was just, you know,
(03:43):
completely taken out of context. It was used for clickbait,
and it is what it is. I just let it
roll and you know, deal with the repercussions.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But it's over.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, that's the thing is I'm afraid to even
talk about it now because now they're gonna be Hudson
brings it up again on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's what I wanted to say, is that isn't it
so interesting how people only read headlines? And I think
you know, some people really go and they delve deep
and they want to like be more invested in what's
really going on in the world.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
But we're living in.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like such a clickbait hashtag headline as news world, and
it's it's so I feel like it's like so detrimental
to not I mean adults, we grew up in a
different time, you know, we we know better as to
like try to read, you know, read past the bold print.
(04:37):
But for kids, it's this like scrolling mentality as true
that is so dangerous.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And it's used. It's you know, I mean, it's one.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Thing if it's just like you know whatever tabloid fodder
like that, you know, take the headline run with it
because people might click on it and give us more,
you know, more advertising dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
But but like but the reality is is that's happening
with everything?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, yes, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Think it's like such a you know, I just wonder
how do we engage kids to not to actually look deeper.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well beyond children, I think it's adults as we as
a society are progressing our intention span it's just getting
less and less. So these click these you know, these
clickbait sort of headlines are going to just keep getting
more prominent because.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Your scroll scroll scroll, Oh huh what, oh my god,
what's that? Click? And then it's just frivolous, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Or if an article is too long and I am
I am a victim of this, I'll be like, oh
that's interesting. Let me let me learn about like why
the sun is as far away from the earth is.
And then I start scrolling, I start reading. I'm like,
ohlet me see how much longer this article is. I'm like,
I'm like, oh, I'm out. I'm out this way too long?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
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Speaker 2 (06:19):
No? What is it?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Oh my god? I'm so adhd right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
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read everything in like three minutes because my brain moves
so fast that it helps me to actually like it,
highlights and reads it.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And then you can affect the speed, so you the
way the speed is.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I'm reading at like three times a normal rate because.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're reading or listening.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Reading both you so well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Then what's interesting that happens is is then you turn
off the sound and you're like almost speed reading.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Oh cool, I'm going to try that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Very cool, and and like I'll read full articles like
oh it's too long, I'll read them ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
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Speaker 3 (07:05):
Will you just called them real quick and see if
they'll pay us for this retroactively?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well, Ollie, listen, I just thought it was really interesting
because I obviously know how you know, all this stuff goes,
and of.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Course, but it's funny how of course.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Secretly I'm always I'm always a little happy when you're.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Under the gun.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know. I immediately I'm like, I was like, oh,
but you know, I mean to end all of it.
Don't pay attention to that bullshit, you know. I mean,
I think it's words like trauma. You're right, It's like
you say that word and immediately it inflames everything. There
(07:49):
was no trauma coming from my mother's you know, up
the way she raised me in any way whatsoever. You know,
you're speaking from a five six year old person. That's
what I was doing. Without her, again'd be nothing.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Even more interesting is that like kids experience trauma all
the time, of course, right with without like, without an
adult really understanding that that might be the experience from
such a young like, how how are we supposed to understand?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Listen, I trauma. I traumatize my children. Of course, if
you thought mom was bad.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of course my thing too is I have told this
story on our podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, I know many time we all traumatize her and
it's not I think.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think that word is yeah, it's a big word.
It's a big word. It is, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And so yeah, the real, real trauma, the kind of
trauma that is a very different kind of conversation, the
kind of.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Trauma that we talked about.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, the kind of trauma in retrospect we can laugh about,
of course, it just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
But it's it's you know, look, you never want to
make anyone feel bad, and you know I'm in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm just gonna shut the fuck up from now on.
You know, I'm not. I'm not really, I can't help it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I was like done, don't know, No, Okay, Lindsey Vonn
she is.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, Look, we love.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
We grew up in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You just got back from Big Sky, by the way,
was it amazing?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean it was incredible. My favorite mountain I've ever skied.
The snow was oh yeah, oh but like, honestly, there's
not even a close second.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
How they say that, that's like it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It doesn't matter. It's just it's it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's just an incredible mountain and it's huge, and it's
beautiful and the snow is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
And how's the app pray schime?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh, I didn't do much of that. I did a
pre app prey you know, I don't know if there's
such a thing.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I have a couple of course lights in the morning
is gonna I'm in a T shirt and I'm going
to put that on our coming are coming, which is
our merch.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yes, pre ap prey pray.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's a good name for like a clothing company or something.
But anyway, it was it was amazing. I mean it
was really really amazing. But anyway, yeah, Lindsay, uh, she'll
tell us her story. I'm very excited because she's had
multi multiple siblings as well, which they're not they're not
coming on, but interested to see how they yeah, trip
(10:51):
triplet siblings, you know, how sort of they felt about
her being the center of attention, how how everything was
about probably lindsay have to move and ski and you
know also think too.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's also like you must also watch your siblings go
through so much mental turmoil as well and physical.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, you got her.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Being in that kind of sport and the amount of
dedication like sometimes you're some siblings must have been like God,
they want to like have fun, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, unless that was it for her least that was her,
you know, But I want to ski with her. That's
my That's what I'm trying to get it. That's what
I'm going to try to get out of this podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I'm sure, I'm sure we I'm sure that's not going
to be hard.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, but she needs to know what a fucking amazing
skier I actually am.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh that's important to you.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, God, this I pretty much shred.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You do wall wait, hold on.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm getting better at my old age too.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You are a insanely gorgeous skier, I think. So it's
like crazy, like you have the kind of moves as
a skier that like people tell me when you're not around, like,
oh my god, I went skiing with Oliver and like
he's such a beautiful skier, so yes.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, would say, if.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
That's enough, I'm validation.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay good.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I feel like I am like the Michael Jackson of skiing. Yeah,
or maybe like the Barishnikov of skiing.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay, good, I'll take that.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
That's great. You know what else? I know we don't
usually talk about pop culture because we don't really do that,
But can.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I ask you a question, m h, how did you
feel about like the Kate Middleton, the Kate Gate and
all that stuffs in retrospect?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Like what, well, this is this is the problem. Who
cares that? She was kind of m I a for
a while, like why is it a big deal?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know that the pomp of the monarchy is sort
of that, oh everyone needs to be seen and you
show your face and you do your thing.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And she was missing, Okay, well.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
She wasn't missing. They made it very clear that they
wouldn't hear from her until Easter.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, right, So the speculation and then all the comments,
I just don't I don't get it. I don't understand
why it matters that much. I never understood personally, why
so many people, especially Americans, are so invested.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In the monarchy. I never got it. Yeah, you know,
I have friends.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I think ST's even one of them who's like so
obsessed with all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I just don't understand it, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh I actually am. I am a monarchy lover in this,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Look, there's the obviously it's a controversial thing because of
the tax at money and there's a lot of people
who don't like it in England, and I lived there.
I live in London for so long, so I still
spend so much time there, and I just I just
think there's something kind of old school and wonderful tradition. Yeah,
but my my, I just had to say, I felt
(14:13):
so I felt so much sadness in the sense that
you know, even in the beginning, I just realized I
knew something must be very wrong, and like this sort
of bombardment and the fact that it's you know, it's cancer,
she's got young and I just felt just such like
(14:35):
a It just it made me very emotional that we
can't let people be quiet for a second when they
clearly are.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Going through something.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know, of course perspective, it becomes this sort of
like you know, people joking about it or you know yea.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I mean how many retractions were made from like big
time celebrity people who are like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm so sorry. I cannot believe I even said that.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It's well, it's we've lost a sense of diplomacy and
and and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And respect in terms of just like giving things a
second to breathe, right, we were just it's just like
everything is to be commented on, everything is to be
something that could, you know, create noise, and I think
people should that should make people stop and go.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I mean I read it and I'm like, read the headline. Okay,
Middleton hasn't been seen in a minute. I'm like, okay,
moving on. I didn't even think twice about it.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I you know, what you're saying is you don't have empathy.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, I didn't. This is before I don't care.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is before she had This is before she came
out and said she was diagnosed with cancer.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Over the speculation, I was like, who cares? Like what
if she just she's just chilling, like who can you know?
And then boom it comes out Why are people so?
Why do people care so much? In general?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Because it distracts us from all the things that are
really hard in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But anyway, I just that's that that was something that
is always on my on my mind. I think sometimes
there's amazing kind of lessons to be learned in these
big pop culture moments.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
How is a big.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
One Lindsay's here. But I also wanted to say one
more thing, like why why was it such a big meaning?
Why speculate? Why would people all of a sudden say
negative things about it? You know what I mean, what
just because she wasn't in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
This because it's the royal family, and it's always been
like that.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's always been a source of like tabloid fodder.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You know, it's speculation like oh she doesn't she's not
with Harry or all kinds of friends Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Or whatever, yeah, or like you know, I mean anything
from I mean, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I mean there's a million.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Of them, like you know, she's like, you know, been
abducted by aliens. You know, you know she has no
no you know, I heard a million different ones that
gave them you know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I mean I was too worried about the backlash and uh,
the shit that I was dealing with the last week.
I'm surprised people weren't speculating about me and how I
handling all of this, all of her case headline stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Anyway, Lindsay is here very excited. She's just got back
from Hong Kong. So we have her jet lag, which
means we can ask her all kinds of things that
she normally wouldn't talk about.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I love interviewing a strong woman. Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
There she is, George, How are you good?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
How you doing great?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I was Hong Kong.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
It was good. It's a really beautiful city. I didn't
get really much time to actually explore. I was in
meetings all day, but otherwise it was it was cool.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What were you doing? What were you meeting about?
Speaker 7 (18:27):
I'm an LP and a new sports fund.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So cool.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
There there was like a.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Wealth for Good summit for the Hong Kong government, and
then we were fundraising as well.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, I while you were doing that, I was in
Big Sky for five.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
How was this? Every time I go?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's every time I leave the US or my home,
always knowing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It got it got slammed. I mean it was incredible.
Apparently the year Big Sky had not been great, but
this spring storm just crushed and it was I mean
some of the most consistent five days of skiing I've
ever had snows And I never skied Big Sky either,
(19:15):
and it was really no, I mean it's I think
it's my favorite mountain I've ever skied. I mean, ever,
what was your Well, we've grown up in Aspen, so
we've skied all four of those mountains, you know.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Very different from Asthmen though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was it
was unreal, I mean truly unreal, so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Ollie hasn't done any European skiing really, o my god,
and that's what I've done, like I've done to me,
I think it's just the best. Yeah, that's it's yeah,
like there my uh, wells is just like it's.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Just ermata hair is just sort of kind of cruisy stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well not if you're doing the not if you yeah,
and you can kind of take you can go from
like different countries.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well that's what I would like to do, but yeah,
you can go over to Italy.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, So then basically it's just hammered skiing. We're just
trying to like snowplow your way down into another country.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, for for a negronie exactly, Lindsay, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, first of all, you've got a thousand siblings, trip triplets.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
I know, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
What are what are the order? What's the order of the.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well, I'm the oldest and best, so the.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Oldest too, U Yeah, I'm the oldest. And then my
sister Karen is four years younger than me, and then
the triplets.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Are six years younger than me. So I was babysitting
a lot, changing a ton of diapers.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And was this were the triplets like a natural occurrence, like,
oh my god, there's three in there?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Or was this like a function of I.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Always thought they were natural? But apparently not.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I always wonder would that like when you hear someone
naturally get has like six kids?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You know, I know, like well back in the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
In the day, like my mom, I didn't know this
until not that long ago actually, but yeah, they just
you know, gave women a ton of hormones to help
them get pregnant and just hope that it worked.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
And so that's why she got three.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
It worked.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
It worked well too.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Well that light growing? Now where did you grow up?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I grew up in Minnesota, just south of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And where what was the closest mountain to you?
Speaker 7 (21:51):
There are no.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Mountains, there are no hills or hills.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And I grew up at buck Hill, which is about
like ten minutes from our house.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's a wopping two hundred and sixty vertical feat.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
WHOA was there even a lyft or was this like
a palma lyft?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Well, there are a couple of very short lifts. But
we actually trained on a rope toe. So I grew
up skiing just on a rope toe, which I think
actually was really good because even though it was small,
we got a ton of repetitions. And so I would
ski every night after school from like five to eight,
and I would get you know, twenty thirty runs in
(22:27):
whereas you know people in on the West coast, you know,
it takes fifteen minutes just to take one run.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
So we got a lot out of out.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Of a little I guess too, when you're actually training,
it's not about terrain. It's about sort of course stuff
and honing you know, your technical skills, so it doesn't
really matter, right.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean it. I eventually we had to move.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I mean eventually, you know, I wanted to be good
at downhill and that required an actual mountain. So we
you know, we moved to Vail when I was twelve,
and that was the impetus, just that I, you know,
needed more training and needed more terrain.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Again, Minnesota was a perfect base, but you know, you
have to be able to grow and I needed I
needed room to grow and Veil was the perfect place.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So and the whole family moved.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yeah, I don't think, you.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Know, my siblings weren't exactly thrilled on that idea. You know,
my dad always thought that we all could be great racers,
but it turns.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Out not all of us wanted to be.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But you know, my dad, my dad looked at it as,
you know, we're all getting an incredible opportunity by moving
to Veil, and that you know, the Triples especially were
given a great, you know, a much better opportunity than
I was even to be able to grow up and Veil.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
But only one of my siblings really loved it.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Read He he loved ski racing, and he ended up
taking a couple of years off after high school to
continue his his pursuit of his racing, but he inevitably
retired and became an architect.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh oh cool.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, do you consider yourself a Colorado girl or Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I can't pick either. I would say I'm both, you know,
I can't deny.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
One, Like, what's your team? But here's your team.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
So my family is from Minnesota, but my my grandparents, cousins, uncles, aunts,
they're all in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
So it was always a Vikings Packers, you know, rivalry.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
But I know a lot of athletes now, so I
kind of am just I support a lot of different teams.
I can't say that i'm you know, I'm I'm I'm
a I move a lot, so i'd.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Say I'm never defined by one team.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Going back, just going back for a second, because I
was interested in this even before we got on the
fact that you are the center of attention, the family
seemingly revolved around you having to move to Vail, having
siblings who wanted their own lives.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
How did that impact.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Your relationship with them? And did they always feel like
a little less then? Because it's all about fucking Lindy.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
You know, I think my perception was probably different than reality.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
And I think, you.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Know, as I got older, I realized more about you
know what my siblings were going through because I was
honestly on the road a lot. So I'm you know,
while my family moved out to Colorado for me. I
by the time I was fourteen, I was already traveling NonStop,
and when I was seventeen, I eventually made the Olympics,
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and then my family moved back to Minnesota. To you
know this, my siblings wanted to finish high school in
Minnesota and go back to their friends, and I think
by that point there was definitely a level of resentment,
you know, they weren't. I think my dad, you know,
kind of filled their heads with these grandiose dreams of what,
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you know, we all could be in Colorado and it
was an amazing opportunity. And honestly, there's to be able
to grow up and mail as privilege. But I think
my siblings didn't really see it that way. And I
think it was hard for them to adjust to to
to new friends, new surroundings. They didn't, you know, love
ski racing. They loved being on the mountain, but not racing.
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And and I wouldn't say, I mean, I don't I
don't know it's for sure, but I don't know if
they thought that the world revolved around me because my
parents did put a lot into them and I think
maybe too much. So like maybe I think they tried
too hard to get them to ski race and instead
of you know, focusing on ski racing, trying other sports
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or you know, other interests. But you know, when we're older,
I think, you know, we have a different perspective and
I unfortunately think that their sacrifice was a lot bigger
than I I knew growing up.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And you realize that in your old age as your
relationship now, I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
You guys can Yeah, you know, my family were not
great at communicating, so so you know, I've kind of
pulled it out of them and through different conversations, you know,
they've actually finally told me what.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
They really feel.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
And we've never really talked about it, and and I
think it was we haven't really got over like the
healing part. But I think, you know, there's a much
better understanding between us now than there was before, which
I think is important.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Do you think when you're that good at something, do
you I mean, did you know how good you were
when you were young?
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Were you aware when I was eleven I was beating
you know, thirteen fourteen fifteen year olds, and I didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I knew that I wanted to be an Olympian, I
didn't know that I didn't know where it would take me.
So I had an awareness that I had a goal
and that's where I wanted to be and nothing was
going to stand in my way.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
But I don't know, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I don't think you really ever understand the magnitude of
anything when you know you're that.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Age, when you were that young, Well, what were you
beating these kids in?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Was it like slalom? Giant Slalam?
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I here up in Minnesota, so that's really all we
could do. Islam I originally was a slalom skier. I
won Solemn World Cups. I know everyone you know things
that I only can ski downhill, but I actually can
bash some gays.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, well quick technical questions because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I love skiing and seeing all my life.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But you know, you look at other sports and there's
all different sort of facets to it. When someone looks
at skiing, it's like, okay, if you're going downhill, you
point your skis and go fast, right, And if you're
skiing salalem as far as technique goes what sets you apart,
what made you better? Was it technique?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know what I mean? Like, why are you beating
fifteen year olds?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It was definitely technique. I mean I think I was
pretty advanced for my age. I was pretty tall, and
you know at that time, at that age, you either
can cross block, like you can hit the hit the
gates with your with your hands, or you can't. And
I was very advanced. I was cross blocking at.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Like nine or ten.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
And you know, I I think that Minnesota. You know, again,
while it's small, I was able to really learn a
lot more quickly than most. And I was also incredibly competitive.
A lot of those kids, you know, we're out there
having fun and I was. I was out there to
do some damage, you know. So I think it was
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a different mindset as well.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And do you think you were like that as a child,
like as a young that you're that you had competitive
spirit like before you even started skiing.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, I was always very competitive. I was always kind
of you know, with my siblings, I was like the
leader of the pack. You know, we would always do
adventurous things, you know. I would always be competitive with them.
I would be competitive with pretty much anyone in for
any reason, and.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
You know, it was it was great.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Ski racing was great for me because I could channel it,
you know, and and that was always my outlet and
my whole life that was my you know, competitive outlet.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Are you still like hyper competitive?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
A problem now that you know you're working on that
now progress.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
It's definitely work in progress.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I would like to get into that with you in
relationships like like okay, like, oh god, another time over
a drink, let me do that channeling, channeling that and
then having that in relationships.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It's sort of like, Okay, maybe I need to figure
this one.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Maybe, Yeah, because because that competitive spirit, like where is
the outlet for it when you don't have skiing And
I mean, how do you how do you channel that?
Where does that that's either where does it come out?
You know, like in business?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
I mean I think for me, one thing that's helped
a lot is just is focusing on my workouts. And
everyone says to me, you know, you're retired, now you
can chill out, and I'm like, I need the gym,
you know. The gym is is the only place that
I can, you know, really physically push myself. It's not
the same and it's not you know, it's not downhill racing,
but it's it's something. And as far as like competitiveness,
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tennis is something that I've really enjoyed. I don't play
games because I don't think I would be in a relationship.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And I actually played points.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
But but it's something that you know, I can be
very focused on and you know, I need like a
challenge because.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
If you think about it, you know it. Sports are
not just you know, about winning.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
It's about you know, every day I have a goal,
I accomplish my goal.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
You know, there there are things that you.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Accomplish every day, you know, and you don't get that
in really anything else in life. You know, It's not
like I can say, oh today, I want to work
on this and and it just you know, it gets
there through hard work. I don't know, it's a it's
a I can't really explain it very well. But sports
has a certain level of accomplishment that that you have
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and it's it's it's confidence building, and I don't I
don't have that outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
How is your you know, sort of more spiritual or
should say kind of mindful? Practice is that something you
do often or is that something that doesn't you don't prioritize.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean I think meditation, you know, like mindfulness,
that for me happens in the gym. You know, it's
really a space where I not on my phone, I'm
very present, I'm I understand my body very well.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
You know, I can push my body.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
It's it's that to me is like my mindfulness, like
my my area where I can really be within myself,
you know, and no one, Like I build this kind
of bubble and no one, no one is in my bubble,
you know when I'm in the gym.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
What happened when you sit in silence alone with no distraction?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Is that call for you or easy?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
It's hard. I've got I've gotten better at it. I
used to never be able to.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
I mean I was alone a lot on the road,
but I would always keep myself distracted.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
It was very hard to be in silence. But I
journal a lot, and.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
I think that that's something that's always helped me. But
silence in general, without writing, without doing anything is quite
challenging for me.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
What was your what was your prep when you were racing?
You know, like was it different between each between salal
MGS downhill or was it the same.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah, there's an element of preparation that you have in
downhill that you don't have and the other disciplines because
you actually can you have a training run or two,
you know, where you see the course, you visualize the course,
so I can, you know, just visualize it in my
head over and over and over and it's a perfect
it's an amazing preparation. But for all the other disciplines,
you look at the course in the morning and that's
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that's the only opportunity you have to see the course
before you race.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
But visualization and.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
You know, that kind of repetitive thinking was always very
helpful for me because I'm very detail oriented. So I
need to, you know, try to control as many elements
as possible ski racing. There are so many variables and
so many things you cannot control that I you know,
try to, you know, eliminate the variables as much as possible.
Some may say I'm OCD, you know, that could be
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something that I need to work on.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But interesting, when you're in downhill, you're just rolling. I mean,
at the end of the day, you have your prep
and then once you break the gate, you're gone. Yeah,
and then instinct takes over and it seems like you
took extremely aggressive lines which led to your success and
your pain injury.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean I definitely think that my aggressive line
was always planned, you know, unless I made a mistake
and I had to make adjustments on the fly.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I always was very calculated with what I did.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I just calculated to be aggressive and I don't have
a break, you know, I'm my foot is always on
the gas until I literally crash into the fence because
I always think I can pull it off. And honestly,
ninety eight percent of the time I did pull it off.
But unfortunately, you know, when you're going that fast, you know,
if one little thing goes wrong, that's the two percent
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and that's the reason why I, you know, had the
injuries that I did.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
How are your parents with this in terms of like fear,
you know, I.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
All of her son Wilder has a girlfriend who is
a she's a racist, but she does what is it
called dollie.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
She was like a free skier.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
She does like cliff stuff, like big mountain stuff, big
mountain stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, Like, I just don't know how I could handle
that as a parent.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
It's like, yeah, I mean I have a.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Harder time with big mountain stuff because there's so many
variables that I can't control.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
The avalanche danger is something that I you know that
I just that it's not really my thing.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I like, but were your parents like but were your
parents nervous?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
I think my mom My mom was definitely nervous, and
she actually woke up, you know, when I was racing
on the World Cup and she wasn't you know, she
wasn't there. She would wake up at three in the
morning and like pray for me. And you know, our
races generally weren't on TV, or they weren't live on TV,
so she would have the live timing on her phone,
which all she saw was the time, and she.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Would like pray for me for every interval.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
My dad, you know, he was a ski racer, so
he gets it, and he he claims he was never
really nervous. I think in the end of my career,
when I was crashing more frequently, I think that he
was a lot more nervous because the injuries we were
very severe. But my grandparents too, is interesting, Like my grandparents,
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my grandpa would always watch and you know, tell my
grandmother times will My grandma would close her eyes, not
look at all and just.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Continue to pray for me.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So, you know, every family member had kind of a
different way of watching. But I think they're they're they're nervous,
but no one ever said don't do it.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So so, but these injuries you sustained, right like it
takes a special athlete and there's.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Only a few of them.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I mean, Kobe Tiger, you, I mean, how do you
pick yourself up? And fucking rehab surgery after surgery, after
rehab after rehab. I mean, is it just it's pure grit,
it's pure love for what you do, or does it
come from a place like this is all I know?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I have no choice.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
No, it was always my choice.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It was always was that I loved what I did,
and I think every time I got hurt, it gave
me a new perspective and a new found love for
the sport because you never know when it's going to end,
and so I appreciate every second that I got to race,
and I grind. I was grinding as hard as I
could to get back as fast as I could because
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I didn't want to miss a single race.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
You know, I I race injured all the.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Time because the thought of missing a race was like,
this is not possible, Like I need to be out
there and I need to go fast and I love this.
It was never I never felt like I was working
entire life.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Are there any moments in your career that you wish
you could go back and like do again?
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Of course, I mean there always are.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Is there anyone that like sticks out?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I mean, you know, the first injury that I had
that really started this domino effect was my was that
when I tore my acl in mcl and schlotting in
twenty thirteen at the World Championships, and we shouldn't have
been racing. And I wish that I would have stuck
to my guns and protested and said, you know, this
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isn't right, you shouldn't shouldn't be doing this right now.
But I didn't because I'm a competitor and if my
competition wants to race, and then I'm in a race,
and I deep down I knew it wasn't right, but
I didn't stand up for myself and I should have.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
And for those who don't know, like, what wasn't right
about it?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
So we had originally the plan to start was like
eleven or eleven fifteen in the morning. It was hard
snow but foggy, and the fog stayed for a long time,
so we had delays every fifteen minutes from eleven o'clock
until we started at three pm. Wow, And by the
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time we raced, the light was getting darker and the
snow was slop and it was. What happened to me
was that I went off a jump and I landed
and my foot stuck in the soft snow, and I
consequently did somersaults over the tips of my skis. But
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the snow should never have been like that. We should
never have been racing in those conditions.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
It was.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
A lot of times.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
There's so much pressure to get these races off because
every time that you don't race, you lose millions and
millions of dollars, So there's a lot of ulterior motives unfortunately,
But yeah, it was the snow conditions were not acceptable
for any type of race.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's an interesting questions I've never even thought about, what
are the politics? A lot of are there, because obviously
there's politics and sports. Any time there's money that much
money involved, you're dealing with the political landscape of that sport.
But yeah, with skiing, I mean what there are there
a ton of politics and skiing, there.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Are because there's so many variables.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
You know, the weather is a is a huge issue
for us.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
And again if you lose, if you get.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
A race canceled, it's between three and five million dollars
loss from wow organized organizing committee, and a lot of
these towns can't really afford. I mean there's insurance of course,
but you know a lot of these towns just it's
it's very difficult when that happens.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
And so.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
There are people pushing from all sides to try to
get these races done. And obviously there's a there's an
athlete's committee, but a lot of times were women and
the men don't tend to listen to us.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
But there's there's always paulitics and ski racing.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
It's it's a lot more complicated than most people think
or you know, because you don't really see it. But
the athletes are always fighting for safety and we're not
always succeeding.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
So because we're our time is slowly going. I wanted
to get into a little bit like where you are now.
But also just I consider myself like a frustrated athlete,
and I saw a soccer girl. So you just became
an owner in a soccer team, right, Salt Lake?
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah, I mentioned investor in Angels City and Utah Royals.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Awesome and and this is becoming kind of a very
very popular thing right now. But it brings up the
bigger conversation, which is women in sports. And do you
find that you have a responsibility as being one of
the few women who've been able to kind of really
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make a not only a great living, but like come
out as that sort of iconic female professional in sports.
There's only really a handful that can actually sort of
pop out and make such a living. Do you find
out that you're retired that you have this responsibility to
really boost women's sports And how do you think it's
(43:29):
going and now? And what's the goal? What's your ultimate goal?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
I mean my ultimate goal is to you know, help
pave a path so that you know, the generations behind
me have an easier way forward and can achieve more.
You know, I think for me, there's not you know,
a goal of I want to support a team so
I win a championship, Like I really don't care if
they want a championship. I'm supporting women in sports because
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I want to show them that I support them, and
I want to, you know, try to encourage others to
support women in sports.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
You know. I want to get the viewership up.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I want to get you know, people to pay attention
so that they can get the paychecks that they deserve
and they can be seen outside of their sport. You know.
I think when you're an athlete, you have to focus
on the task at hand. You know, you have to
focus on your job, and you know, oftentimes you miss
out on opportunities, you know, if you're not like me.
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I was always working really hard outside of ski racing
to create, you know, a life for myself, to create
a brand that you know, would last me after ski racing,
because ski racing you make zero dollars, and so I think,
you know, sometimes if you don't have that mentality, you
can miss a lot of opportunities. So I want to
try to create opportunities for those women so that they
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don't miss anything, so that they have, you know, a
platform that they can stand on that they can you know,
hopefully succeed in life, not just in sports.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
But you see it, you know, Angel City was.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
You know, Serena and villagean King and and you know
so many people who love supporting women in sports and
it I definitely think it's set the tone for the
NWSL and what they're able to achieve now. You know,
it's it got this snowball rolling and it's picking up steam,
and you know, it's transcending now to you know, basketball
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and you know volleyball, college college sports are taking off,
and that's only that's going to help all women. You know,
it doesn't just help this one specific group of women.
It helps all women. And it shows, you know, kids
what's possible. You know, every generation, you know, you set
the bar and when kids see that bar being set
even higher, they know that they can get there. You know,
(45:45):
I think it's setting me example. And you know, for me,
I've always felt a responsibility to give back and to
support other women because you know, knowingly or not, Peekaboo
Street was my idol and I met her at honograph
signing in Minnesota when I was nine years old, and
because of her, I wanted to be an Olympian and
so you know, I want to I want to give
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that opportunity to others and I want to try to
inspire and push and and show girls that they can
achieve anything they're set their mind to, which is why
I started my foundation where we have we have programs
and scholarships for underserved girls.
Speaker 7 (46:19):
But it all comes from the premise of of.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Peekaboo and what she did for me, and and I
want to do that for others.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Peekaboo is bad ass this boss. So wait are you?
Did you start a volleyball league? I am yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
I I I interviewed uh Bodie and Morgan, and the
big announcement for her was they're moving back to OC
and she's going to play. She's going to play again indoor.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Training her ass off right now.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
Yeah, I don't know how she does it.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
I can't belave it.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
Every thing. It's like, that's im problem.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, We've known body for a long time. He's so chill,
you know, it's almost like you don't know what he's
feeling or thinking.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
You're like, okay, at one point, goes to another, money
comes back around to that point You're like, I don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, yeah, but you know he's like, look, we lived
in big sky, sacrificed the ton.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
She sacrificed the tons. She was getting stir crazy. She's like,
I gotta, I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
I got so excited.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I'm no.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
More.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
One more thing about women's sports. You know, it's as
far as women getting paid for what they do, Like,
what are your thoughts about all that?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And I'm only playing.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Devil's advocate because at the end of the day, how
do athletes get paid. It's the revenues come from, you know,
the amount of viewers.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Who are watching advertising dollars.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Advertising dollars. So how do you reconcile that?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Yeah, I mean advertising makes the world go around, right,
you know, the more viewers you have, the more people
want to spend on that advertising, and in turn, the
more women get paid. And I think that that's the
number one focus is really getting eyeballs onto the sport,
you know. I think in WNBA, ticket sales are definitely
a portion of you know, the business and it needs
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to be you know, sold out as much as possible
for them to you know, get their money. But you know,
I've I'm now you know, investing in you know, not
just me personally, but I'm helping another investment group with
you know, investing in different sports leagues, and and what
I've really found out, you know, in the ins and
(48:37):
outs of sports is literally every sport revolves around viewership.
The more people are watching, you know, the more you're
going to get paid. And and I think women's sports
is showing that, you know, we do have the viewership.
I think the reason why women haven't gotten paid before
is that it wasn't on TV. You know, people weren't
watching because it wasn't on TV. And people who were
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deciding that was on TV were men, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So I think, yeah, we weren't investing in female stars
in sports like no, because.
Speaker 7 (49:05):
They didn't think anyone would watch.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
If you think about it, like, I don't think anyone
thought that so many people.
Speaker 7 (49:11):
For example, like the volleyball game in Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Would anyone have thought that ninety five thousand people would
come to a football stadium to watch a volleyball game?
Speaker 7 (49:20):
Probably not, you know.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
So I think that just the amount of people that
are showing up for women are proving the point that
there are people that want to watch, millions of people
that want to watch women in sports. And when we
improve that point, it'll be more on TV, and then
we'll get more ad revenue, and then the athletes in
turn will get more money. So it's a snowball effect
and we have to keep pushing forward. We have to
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keep pushing networks to put you know, women's sports on
TV and continue to prove prove the point so that
women whenmen will get paid mm h one percent.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
As as someone who's as competitive us as you are, right,
you look at Kareem Lebron just broke points record.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
You know, you've held records.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
I was there, I was there.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
You hold records.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Okay, when it gets broken, when shifferent sort of breaks
the record, I know everyone's excited for everyone as a competitor.
I've always wondered this is it kind of like bittersweet, like, hey,
I love her thinking fuck off? I mean is there
a part of that, like is Kareem high fiving and
at the same time, God damn it.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
I mean, you know, Kareem's not doing jumping up and down,
but you know, Ron broken. But I think there's a
mutual respect there. And you know, it's so hard to
get to that level of success. You know, I respect
Michaela and what she was able to achieve. You know,
it's it's so impressive. I can't you know, can't say that.
(50:50):
I'm not disappointed that my records aren't there. But at
the same time, you know, that's what it's meant to
be there for.
Speaker 7 (50:57):
You know, it's meant to be broken.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
And the next generation is next to be is meant
to be better than the one before. You know, I
broke the record by twenty wins and Mikayla's you know,
twenty wins ahead of me. So that's just that's progression.
That's the way it's meant to go. And I think
for me, it's just a matter of respect, and I
have always respected her and what she's achieved.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
So how cool that I've been If you guys were
the same era, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
But then there's someone else that's coming up behind. No,
it's it's uh.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Nature of the beast?
Speaker 7 (51:32):
Is that? Then?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I got one more question? Hold on Aspen Veil, all right?
There always has been this weird rivalry.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Okay, So there's Hats in Aspen, which we've been there
for forty years down valley, but in the valley, you know,
there's Hats Veil sucks fuck Veil. I'm sure it's similar
in veil.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
What is this. I don't even understand it, really, I don't.
Speaker 6 (51:55):
Really understand it that I will say the kids, like
I've talked to a lot of kids in the last
couple of years, and they still the rivalry.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
Is still the hair still well. And I don't know
why it is. I think you guys, I think Aspen
is bougie, a little bit more bougie. Yeah, as is not.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Bail is not totally lift tickets are the same, the
same price. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (52:22):
It's an interesting thing and it's always been that way.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
The question is, the question is what is the better mountain,
the better.
Speaker 6 (52:31):
Mount without doubt Bail, Like I can't you can't even
deny that Bail is by.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
Far the best mountain, is one of the best. True,
it's it's it has everything.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It's true.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
A lot of time you skied the back bowls at
Bail has been years.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
A long long time I went to Boulder, So I
used to go to Bail, Okay all the time.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, but it's been a minute. You're still skiing, of.
Speaker 7 (52:53):
Course, obviously.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Oliver before we got on, was like, I just want
to ski with Lindsay. I'm like I think we can
make that.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yes, we can obviously make that happen.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
It's not because he wants to see you ski.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
It's because he I want to show off for you.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
You to see how.
Speaker 7 (53:12):
But I'm ready for that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Let's try to do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
I'm down.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's the question.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Okay, we can do it in Europe. You know, Okay,
everybody knows you with the skier. Everybody knows you as
iconic athletes. But what is something about you that people
don't know about you?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
I don't know, like, I'm a really family oriented person.
I mean I'm I'm the same Minnesota girl. I think
everyone thinks that I've become you know this whatever you know,
big sports star. Am I'm just the same person I
always have been. I've never changed. You know, my friends
from when I was seven years old in Minnesota are
(53:53):
still my friends from Minnesota, and you know I haven't.
I haven't changed who I am. It's I just think
it's a common misconception that you know and even honestly,
my family in Wisconsin thinks I'm Hollywood, but I am
very far from that.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Awesome good Okay, well more, one more question.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
How much pressure are you putting on your inside ski
when you're making a turn.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
It should be like, honestly fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
I can't seem to get that.
Speaker 7 (54:25):
I think you're inside and probably wrong. I think we
need to look at your setup.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (54:31):
Mean, why hasn't your friend body helped you with that?
Speaker 3 (54:33):
That's his stuff because he doesn't care really, he's just
sort of like, you know, whatever, just do it whatever,
just fucking ski.
Speaker 6 (54:40):
Well, we should ski together and I can love to.
I need to get you the right equipment, you know, bodies.
We need to get you on head, not.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
On, not peak, some stuff, all right, okay, good good, Yeah, Well,
thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
This has been super fait, super true.
Speaker 7 (54:58):
Thank you guys so much. I'm busy, so thank you.
It was great to you guys, and we'll go skiing soon.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Yes, do it.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Bye guys, Bye,
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely. That's good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Pull.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I'm very excited to talk to our next guest.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But before we talk to Lindsay, who actually I've actually
spent some time with her.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Mm hm Lindsay Von Lindsay Vaughn.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, and and and she's great. She's so super cool
and I just really dig her. But we gotta like, we.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Gotta what no, go ahead, she's I was just gonna say,
she's an icon. But let's so let's get into what
the hell you're going to talk about right now.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I leave you alone for like one episode.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hold on, we're gonna do this difference to your own device.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We're gonna we're going to do this differently, okay, instead
of our typical intro, I'm going to be a guest
on the Kate Hudson Podcast for the next seven minutes.
And it's an it's it's a it's it's an apology
tour or however we want to call it and go ahead.
Intro me intro, I'm on the show, and then you
can start asking me questions.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
First of all, I remember, you know, I've been shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
My show for Netflix, the Basketball Show, and I couldn't
do the Body Miller podcast with you, which was great
because Aaron was able to do it. But then like
I start seeing all the clips and I'm like, oh God, Oliver,
this is going to be a headline.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And I knew it immediately mm hmm, and I was like, god,
you just you you you.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was such clickbait words like I and I'm like,
I can't leave my brother alone for a second, so
let's just talk about this for five seconds, because we
know if we're going to talk about our parents, everyone's
gonna tell it's going to end up showing up on like,
you know, a slow news day, which is weird because
(02:22):
this in the world today, there's no such.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Thing as the slow news day, right.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But you got you got in a little bit of
heat from Mom about you know, your trauma comment. Yeah,
because it became a clickbait headline versus a context of
what you were saying. I think that the interesting thing
(02:49):
is is that what you were saying was actually a
really interesting thing about yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm even afraid to talk about it
to a flame this even more because everything is taken
so far out of context. And again, like you said,
they're using these buzzwords to then create and frankenstein a
sentence together for a click. If you listen to the
whole thing, it's more about sort of my child feelings
(03:19):
in that moment rather than me and how I feel
about mom as a parent. I don't know who I
would be without my mother. I mean I really I
can't even fathom it. The love that I have for
her and the respect and their reverence that I have
for her is beyond anything. So it was just, you know,
(03:43):
completely taken out of context. It was used for clickbait,
and it is what it is. I just let it
roll and you know, deal with the repercussions.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But it's over.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, that's the thing is I'm afraid to even
talk about it now because now they're gonna be Hudson
brings it up again on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's what I wanted to say, is that isn't it
so interesting how people only read headlines? And I think
you know, some people really go and they delve deep
and they want to like be more invested in what's
really going on in the world.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
But we're living in.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Like such a clickbait hashtag headline as news world, and
it's it's so I feel like it's like so detrimental
to not I mean adults, we grew up in a
different time, you know, we we know better as to
like try to read, you know, read past the bold print.
(04:37):
But for kids, it's this like scrolling mentality as true
that is so dangerous.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
And it's used. It's you know, I mean, it's one.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Thing if it's just like you know whatever tabloid fodder
like that, you know, take the headline run with it
because people might click on it and give us more,
you know, more advertising dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
But but like but the reality is is that's happening
with everything?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, yes, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Think it's like such a you know, I just wonder
how do we engage kids to not to actually look deeper.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well beyond children, I think it's adults as we as
a society are progressing our intention span it's just getting
less and less. So these click these you know, these
clickbait sort of headlines are going to just keep getting
more prominent because.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Your scroll scroll scroll, Oh huh what, oh my god,
what's that? Click? And then it's just frivolous, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Or if an article is too long and I am
I am a victim of this, I'll be like, oh
that's interesting. Let me let me learn about like why
the sun is as far away from the earth is.
And then I start scrolling, I start reading. I'm like,
ohlet me see how much longer this article is. I'm like,
I'm like, oh, I'm out. I'm out this way too long?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
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they were one of our sponsors. But this is an
unsponsored shout up Speechify like, try my life because of that.
Have you tried it?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No? What is it?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Oh my god? I'm so adhd right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And then I started using speechify, and now I can
read everything in like three minutes because my brain moves
so fast that it helps me to actually like it,
highlights and reads it.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
And then you can affect the speed, so you the
way the speed is.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So I'm reading at like three times a normal rate because.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're reading or listening.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Reading both you so well.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Then what's interesting that happens is is then you turn
off the sound and you're like almost speed reading.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Oh cool, I'm going to try that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Very cool, and and like I'll read full articles like
oh it's too long, I'll read them ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Amazing. I'm gonna get that now, Hannah.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Will you just called them real quick and see if
they'll pay us for this retroactively?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Well, Ollie, listen, I just thought it was really interesting
because I obviously know how you know, all this stuff goes,
and of.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Course, but it's funny how of course.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Secretly I'm always I'm always a little happy when you're.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Under the gun.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know. I immediately I'm like, I was like, oh,
but you know, I mean to end all of it.
Don't pay attention to that bullshit, you know. I mean,
I think it's words like trauma. You're right, It's like
you say that word and immediately it inflames everything. There
(07:49):
was no trauma coming from my mother's you know, up
the way she raised me in any way whatsoever. You know,
you're speaking from a five six year old person. That's
what I was doing. Without her, again'd be nothing.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I think.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Even more interesting is that like kids experience trauma all
the time, of course, right with without like, without an
adult really understanding that that might be the experience from
such a young like, how how are we supposed to understand?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Listen, I trauma. I traumatize my children. Of course, if
you thought mom was bad.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of course my thing too is I have told this
story on our podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, I know many time we all traumatize her and
it's not I think.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think that word is yeah, it's a big word.
It's a big word. It is, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And so yeah, the real, real trauma, the kind of
trauma that is a very different kind of conversation, the
kind of.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Trauma that we talked about.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, the kind of trauma in retrospect we can laugh about,
of course, it just.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
But it's it's you know, look, you never want to
make anyone feel bad, and you know I'm in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I'm just gonna shut the fuck up from now on.
You know, I'm not. I'm not really, I can't help it.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I was like done, don't know, No, Okay, Lindsey Vonn
she is.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yes, Look, we love.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
We grew up in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You just got back from Big Sky, by the way,
was it amazing?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean it was incredible. My favorite mountain I've ever skied.
The snow was oh yeah, oh but like, honestly, there's
not even a close second.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
How they say that, that's like it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It doesn't matter. It's just it's it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's just an incredible mountain and it's huge, and it's
beautiful and the snow is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
And how's the app pray schime?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh, I didn't do much of that. I did a
pre app prey you know, I don't know if there's
such a thing.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I have a couple of course lights in the morning
is gonna I'm in a T shirt and I'm going
to put that on our coming are coming, which is
our merch.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yes, pre ap prey pray.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
That's a good name for like a clothing company or something.
But anyway, it was it was amazing. I mean it
was really really amazing. But anyway, yeah, Lindsay, uh, she'll
tell us her story. I'm very excited because she's had
multi multiple siblings as well, which they're not they're not
coming on, but interested to see how they yeah, trip
(10:51):
triplet siblings, you know, how sort of they felt about
her being the center of attention, how how everything was
about probably lindsay have to move and ski and you
know also think too.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's also like you must also watch your siblings go
through so much mental turmoil as well and physical.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, you got her.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Being in that kind of sport and the amount of
dedication like sometimes you're some siblings must have been like God,
they want to like have fun, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, unless that was it for her least that was her,
you know, But I want to ski with her. That's
my That's what I'm trying to get it. That's what
I'm going to try to get out of this podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I'm sure, I'm sure we I'm sure that's not going
to be hard.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, but she needs to know what a fucking amazing
skier I actually am.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Oh that's important to you.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, God, this I pretty much shred.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
You do wall wait, hold on.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm getting better at my old age too.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You are a insanely gorgeous skier, I think. So it's
like crazy, like you have the kind of moves as
a skier that like people tell me when you're not around, like,
oh my god, I went skiing with Oliver and like
he's such a beautiful skier, so yes.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, would say, if.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
That's enough, I'm validation.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay good.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I feel like I am like the Michael Jackson of skiing. Yeah,
or maybe like the Barishnikov of skiing.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Okay, good, I'll take that.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
That's great. You know what else? I know we don't
usually talk about pop culture because we don't really do that,
But can.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I ask you a question, m h, how did you
feel about like the Kate Middleton, the Kate Gate and
all that stuffs in retrospect?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Like what, well, this is this is the problem. Who
cares that? She was kind of m I a for
a while, like why is it a big deal?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know that the pomp of the monarchy is sort
of that, oh everyone needs to be seen and you
show your face and you do your thing.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And she was missing, Okay, well.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
She wasn't missing. They made it very clear that they
wouldn't hear from her until Easter.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, right, So the speculation and then all the comments,
I just don't I don't get it. I don't understand
why it matters that much. I never understood personally, why
so many people, especially Americans, are so invested.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
In the monarchy. I never got it. Yeah, you know,
I have friends.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I think ST's even one of them who's like so
obsessed with all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I just don't understand it, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Oh I actually am. I am a monarchy lover in this,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Look, there's the obviously it's a controversial thing because of
the tax at money and there's a lot of people
who don't like it in England, and I lived there.
I live in London for so long, so I still
spend so much time there, and I just I just
think there's something kind of old school and wonderful tradition. Yeah,
but my my, I just had to say, I felt
(14:13):
so I felt so much sadness in the sense that
you know, even in the beginning, I just realized I
knew something must be very wrong, and like this sort
of bombardment and the fact that it's you know, it's cancer,
she's got young and I just felt just such like
(14:35):
a It just it made me very emotional that we
can't let people be quiet for a second when they
clearly are.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Going through something.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You know, of course perspective, it becomes this sort of
like you know, people joking about it or you know yea.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I mean how many retractions were made from like big
time celebrity people who are like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm so sorry. I cannot believe I even said that.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It's well, it's we've lost a sense of diplomacy and
and and.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And respect in terms of just like giving things a
second to breathe, right, we were just it's just like
everything is to be commented on, everything is to be
something that could, you know, create noise, and I think
people should that should make people stop and go.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I mean I read it and I'm like, read the headline. Okay,
Middleton hasn't been seen in a minute. I'm like, okay,
moving on. I didn't even think twice about it.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I you know, what you're saying is you don't have empathy.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, I didn't. This is before I don't care.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
This is before she had This is before she came
out and said she was diagnosed with cancer.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Over the speculation, I was like, who cares? Like what
if she just she's just chilling, like who can you know?
And then boom it comes out Why are people so?
Why do people care so much? In general?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Because it distracts us from all the things that are
really hard in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But anyway, I just that's that that was something that
is always on my on my mind. I think sometimes
there's amazing kind of lessons to be learned in these
big pop culture moments.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
How is a big.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
One Lindsay's here. But I also wanted to say one
more thing, like why why was it such a big meaning?
Why speculate? Why would people all of a sudden say
negative things about it? You know what I mean, what
just because she wasn't in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
This because it's the royal family, and it's always been
like that.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It's always been a source of like tabloid fodder.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
You know, it's speculation like oh she doesn't she's not
with Harry or all kinds of friends Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Or whatever, yeah, or like you know, I mean anything
from I mean, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I mean there's a million.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Of them, like you know, she's like, you know, been
abducted by aliens. You know, you know she has no
no you know, I heard a million different ones that
gave them you know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I mean I was too worried about the backlash and uh,
the shit that I was dealing with the last week.
I'm surprised people weren't speculating about me and how I
handling all of this, all of her case headline stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Anyway, Lindsay is here very excited. She's just got back
from Hong Kong. So we have her jet lag, which
means we can ask her all kinds of things that
she normally wouldn't talk about.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I love interviewing a strong woman. Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
There she is, George, How are you good?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
How you doing great?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I was Hong Kong.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
It was good. It's a really beautiful city. I didn't
get really much time to actually explore. I was in
meetings all day, but otherwise it was it was cool.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What were you doing? What were you meeting about?
Speaker 7 (18:27):
I'm an LP and a new sports fund.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So cool.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
There there was like a.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Wealth for Good summit for the Hong Kong government, and
then we were fundraising as well.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So awesome.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, I while you were doing that, I was in
Big Sky for five.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
How was this? Every time I go?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's every time I leave the US or my home,
always knowing.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It got it got slammed. I mean it was incredible.
Apparently the year Big Sky had not been great, but
this spring storm just crushed and it was I mean
some of the most consistent five days of skiing I've
ever had snows And I never skied Big Sky either,
(19:15):
and it was really no, I mean it's I think
it's my favorite mountain I've ever skied. I mean, ever,
what was your Well, we've grown up in Aspen, so
we've skied all four of those mountains, you know.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Very different from Asthmen though.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was it
was unreal, I mean truly unreal, so fun.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Ollie hasn't done any European skiing really, o my god,
and that's what I've done, like I've done to me,
I think it's just the best. Yeah, that's it's yeah,
like there my uh, wells is just like it's.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Just ermata hair is just sort of kind of cruisy stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well not if you're doing the not if you yeah,
and you can kind of take you can go from
like different countries.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well that's what I would like to do, but yeah,
you can go over to Italy.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Right, So then basically it's just hammered skiing. We're just
trying to like snowplow your way down into another country.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, for for a negronie exactly, Lindsay, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, first of all, you've got a thousand siblings, trip triplets.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
I know, it's a lot.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
What are what are the order? What's the order of the.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well, I'm the oldest and best, so the.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Oldest too, U Yeah, I'm the oldest. And then my
sister Karen is four years younger than me, and then
the triplets.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Are six years younger than me. So I was babysitting
a lot, changing a ton of diapers.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And was this were the triplets like a natural occurrence, like,
oh my god, there's three in there?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Or was this like a function of I.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
Always thought they were natural? But apparently not.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I always wonder would that like when you hear someone
naturally get has like six kids?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
You know, I know, like well back in the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
In the day, like my mom, I didn't know this
until not that long ago actually, but yeah, they just
you know, gave women a ton of hormones to help
them get pregnant and just hope that it worked.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
And so that's why she got three.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
It worked.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
It worked well too.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Well that light growing? Now where did you grow up?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I grew up in Minnesota, just south of Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And where what was the closest mountain to you?
Speaker 7 (21:51):
There are no.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Mountains, there are no hills or hills.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And I grew up at buck Hill, which is about
like ten minutes from our house.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
It's a wopping two hundred and sixty vertical feat.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
WHOA was there even a lyft or was this like
a palma lyft?
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Well, there are a couple of very short lifts. But
we actually trained on a rope toe. So I grew
up skiing just on a rope toe, which I think
actually was really good because even though it was small,
we got a ton of repetitions. And so I would
ski every night after school from like five to eight,
and I would get you know, twenty thirty runs in
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whereas you know people in on the West coast, you know,
it takes fifteen minutes just to take one run.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
So we got a lot out of out.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Of a little I guess too, when you're actually training,
it's not about terrain. It's about sort of course stuff
and honing you know, your technical skills, so it doesn't
really matter, right.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah, I mean it. I eventually we had to move.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I mean eventually, you know, I wanted to be good
at downhill and that required an actual mountain. So we
you know, we moved to Vail when I was twelve,
and that was the impetus, just that I, you know,
needed more training and needed more terrain.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Again, Minnesota was a perfect base, but you know, you
have to be able to grow and I needed I
needed room to grow and Veil was the perfect place.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So and the whole family moved.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yeah, I don't think, you.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Know, my siblings weren't exactly thrilled on that idea. You know,
my dad always thought that we all could be great racers,
but it turns.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Out not all of us wanted to be.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
But you know, my dad, my dad looked at it as,
you know, we're all getting an incredible opportunity by moving
to Veil, and that you know, the Triples especially were
given a great, you know, a much better opportunity than
I was even to be able to grow up and Veil.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
But only one of my siblings really loved it.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Read He he loved ski racing, and he ended up
taking a couple of years off after high school to
continue his his pursuit of his racing, but he inevitably
retired and became an architect.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh oh cool.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, do you consider yourself a Colorado girl or Minnesota?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
I can't pick either. I would say I'm both, you know,
I can't deny.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
One, Like, what's your team? But here's your team.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
So my family is from Minnesota, but my my grandparents, cousins, uncles, aunts,
they're all in Wisconsin.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
So it was always a Vikings Packers, you know, rivalry.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
But I know a lot of athletes now, so I
kind of am just I support a lot of different teams.
I can't say that i'm you know, I'm I'm I'm
a I move a lot, so i'd.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Say I'm never defined by one team.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Going back, just going back for a second, because I
was interested in this even before we got on the
fact that you are the center of attention, the family
seemingly revolved around you having to move to Vail, having
siblings who wanted their own lives.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
How did that impact.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Your relationship with them? And did they always feel like
a little less then? Because it's all about fucking Lindy.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
You know, I think my perception was probably different than reality.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
And I think, you.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Know, as I got older, I realized more about you
know what my siblings were going through because I was
honestly on the road a lot. So I'm you know,
while my family moved out to Colorado for me. I
by the time I was fourteen, I was already traveling NonStop,
and when I was seventeen, I eventually made the Olympics,
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and then my family moved back to Minnesota. To you
know this, my siblings wanted to finish high school in
Minnesota and go back to their friends, and I think
by that point there was definitely a level of resentment,
you know, they weren't. I think my dad, you know,
kind of filled their heads with these grandiose dreams of what,
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you know, we all could be in Colorado and it
was an amazing opportunity. And honestly, there's to be able
to grow up and mail as privilege. But I think
my siblings didn't really see it that way. And I
think it was hard for them to adjust to to
to new friends, new surroundings. They didn't, you know, love
ski racing. They loved being on the mountain, but not racing.
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And and I wouldn't say, I mean, I don't I
don't know it's for sure, but I don't know if
they thought that the world revolved around me because my
parents did put a lot into them and I think
maybe too much. So like maybe I think they tried
too hard to get them to ski race and instead
of you know, focusing on ski racing, trying other sports
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or you know, other interests. But you know, when we're older,
I think, you know, we have a different perspective and
I unfortunately think that their sacrifice was a lot bigger
than I I knew growing up.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Mmm.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And you realize that in your old age as your
relationship now, I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
You guys can Yeah, you know, my family were not
great at communicating, so so you know, I've kind of
pulled it out of them and through different conversations, you know,
they've actually finally told me what.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
They really feel.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
And we've never really talked about it, and and I
think it was we haven't really got over like the
healing part. But I think, you know, there's a much
better understanding between us now than there was before, which
I think is important.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Do you think when you're that good at something, do
you I mean, did you know how good you were
when you were young?
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Were you aware when I was eleven I was beating
you know, thirteen fourteen fifteen year olds, and I didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
I knew that I wanted to be an Olympian, I
didn't know that I didn't know where it would take me.
So I had an awareness that I had a goal
and that's where I wanted to be and nothing was
going to stand in my way.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
But I don't know, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I don't think you really ever understand the magnitude of
anything when you know you're that.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Age, when you were that young, Well, what were you
beating these kids in?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Was it like slalom? Giant Slalam?
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I here up in Minnesota, so that's really all we
could do. Islam I originally was a slalom skier. I
won Solemn World Cups. I know everyone you know things
that I only can ski downhill, but I actually can
bash some gays.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, well quick technical questions because I'm a nerd.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I love skiing and seeing all my life.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But you know, you look at other sports and there's
all different sort of facets to it. When someone looks
at skiing, it's like, okay, if you're going downhill, you
point your skis and go fast, right, And if you're
skiing salalem as far as technique goes what sets you apart,
what made you better? Was it technique?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know what I mean? Like, why are you beating
fifteen year olds?
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It was definitely technique. I mean I think I was
pretty advanced for my age. I was pretty tall, and
you know at that time, at that age, you either
can cross block, like you can hit the hit the
gates with your with your hands, or you can't. And
I was very advanced. I was cross blocking at.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Like nine or ten.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
And you know, I I think that Minnesota. You know, again,
while it's small, I was able to really learn a
lot more quickly than most. And I was also incredibly competitive.
A lot of those kids, you know, we're out there
having fun and I was. I was out there to
do some damage, you know. So I think it was
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a different mindset as well.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And do you think you were like that as a child,
like as a young that you're that you had competitive
spirit like before you even started skiing.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, I was always very competitive. I was always kind
of you know, with my siblings, I was like the
leader of the pack. You know, we would always do
adventurous things, you know. I would always be competitive with them.
I would be competitive with pretty much anyone in for
any reason, and.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
You know, it was it was great.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Ski racing was great for me because I could channel it,
you know, and and that was always my outlet and
my whole life that was my you know, competitive outlet.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Are you still like hyper competitive?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
A problem now that you know you're working on that
now progress.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
It's definitely work in progress.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I would like to get into that with you in
relationships like like okay, like, oh god, another time over
a drink, let me do that channeling, channeling that and
then having that in relationships.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
It's sort of like, Okay, maybe I need to figure
this one.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Maybe, Yeah, because because that competitive spirit, like where is
the outlet for it when you don't have skiing And
I mean, how do you how do you channel that?
Where does that that's either where does it come out?
You know, like in business?
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
I mean I think for me, one thing that's helped
a lot is just is focusing on my workouts. And
everyone says to me, you know, you're retired, now you
can chill out, and I'm like, I need the gym,
you know. The gym is is the only place that
I can, you know, really physically push myself. It's not
the same and it's not you know, it's not downhill racing,
but it's it's something. And as far as like competitiveness,
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tennis is something that I've really enjoyed. I don't play
games because I don't think I would be in a relationship.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And I actually played points.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
But but it's something that you know, I can be
very focused on and you know, I need like a
challenge because.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
If you think about it, you know it. Sports are
not just you know, about winning.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
It's about you know, every day I have a goal,
I accomplish my goal.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
You know, there there are things that you.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Accomplish every day, you know, and you don't get that
in really anything else in life. You know, It's not
like I can say, oh today, I want to work
on this and and it just you know, it gets
there through hard work. I don't know, it's a it's
a I can't really explain it very well. But sports
has a certain level of accomplishment that that you have
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and it's it's it's confidence building, and I don't I
don't have that outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
How is your you know, sort of more spiritual or
should say kind of mindful? Practice is that something you
do often or is that something that doesn't you don't prioritize.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean I think meditation, you know, like mindfulness,
that for me happens in the gym. You know, it's
really a space where I not on my phone, I'm
very present, I'm I understand my body very well.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
You know, I can push my body.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
It's it's that to me is like my mindfulness, like
my my area where I can really be within myself,
you know, and no one, Like I build this kind
of bubble and no one, no one is in my bubble,
you know when I'm in the gym.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
What happened when you sit in silence alone with no distraction?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Is that call for you or easy?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
It's hard. I've got I've gotten better at it. I
used to never be able to.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
I mean I was alone a lot on the road,
but I would always keep myself distracted.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
It was very hard to be in silence. But I
journal a lot, and.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
I think that that's something that's always helped me. But
silence in general, without writing, without doing anything is quite
challenging for me.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
What was your what was your prep when you were racing?
You know, like was it different between each between salal
MGS downhill or was it the same.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah, there's an element of preparation that you have in
downhill that you don't have and the other disciplines because
you actually can you have a training run or two,
you know, where you see the course, you visualize the course,
so I can, you know, just visualize it in my
head over and over and over and it's a perfect
it's an amazing preparation. But for all the other disciplines,
you look at the course in the morning and that's
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that's the only opportunity you have to see the course
before you race.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
But visualization and.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
You know, that kind of repetitive thinking was always very
helpful for me because I'm very detail oriented. So I
need to, you know, try to control as many elements
as possible ski racing. There are so many variables and
so many things you cannot control that I you know,
try to, you know, eliminate the variables as much as possible.
Some may say I'm OCD, you know, that could be
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something that I need to work on.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
But interesting, when you're in downhill, you're just rolling. I mean,
at the end of the day, you have your prep
and then once you break the gate, you're gone. Yeah,
and then instinct takes over and it seems like you
took extremely aggressive lines which led to your success and
your pain injury.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean I definitely think that my aggressive line
was always planned, you know, unless I made a mistake
and I had to make adjustments on the fly.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
I always was very calculated with what I did.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I just calculated to be aggressive and I don't have
a break, you know, I'm my foot is always on
the gas until I literally crash into the fence because
I always think I can pull it off. And honestly,
ninety eight percent of the time I did pull it off.
But unfortunately, you know, when you're going that fast, you know,
if one little thing goes wrong, that's the two percent
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and that's the reason why I, you know, had the
injuries that I did.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
How are your parents with this in terms of like fear,
you know, I.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
All of her son Wilder has a girlfriend who is
a she's a racist, but she does what is it
called dollie.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
She was like a free skier.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
She does like cliff stuff, like big mountain stuff, big
mountain stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, Like, I just don't know how I could handle
that as a parent.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
It's like, yeah, I mean I have a.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Harder time with big mountain stuff because there's so many
variables that I can't control.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
The avalanche danger is something that I you know that
I just that it's not really my thing.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
I like, but were your parents like but were your
parents nervous?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
I think my mom My mom was definitely nervous, and
she actually woke up, you know, when I was racing
on the World Cup and she wasn't you know, she
wasn't there. She would wake up at three in the
morning and like pray for me. And you know, our
races generally weren't on TV, or they weren't live on TV,
so she would have the live timing on her phone,
which all she saw was the time, and she.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Would like pray for me for every interval.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
My dad, you know, he was a ski racer, so
he gets it, and he he claims he was never
really nervous. I think in the end of my career,
when I was crashing more frequently, I think that he
was a lot more nervous because the injuries we were
very severe. But my grandparents too, is interesting, Like my grandparents,
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my grandpa would always watch and you know, tell my
grandmother times will My grandma would close her eyes, not
look at all and just.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Continue to pray for me.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So, you know, every family member had kind of a
different way of watching. But I think they're they're they're nervous,
but no one ever said don't do it.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So so, but these injuries you sustained, right like it
takes a special athlete and there's.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Only a few of them.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I mean, Kobe Tiger, you, I mean, how do you
pick yourself up? And fucking rehab surgery after surgery, after
rehab after rehab. I mean, is it just it's pure grit,
it's pure love for what you do, or does it
come from a place like this is all I know?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I have no choice.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
No, it was always my choice.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It was always was that I loved what I did,
and I think every time I got hurt, it gave
me a new perspective and a new found love for
the sport because you never know when it's going to end,
and so I appreciate every second that I got to race,
and I grind. I was grinding as hard as I
could to get back as fast as I could because
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I didn't want to miss a single race.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
You know, I I race injured all the.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Time because the thought of missing a race was like,
this is not possible, Like I need to be out
there and I need to go fast and I love this.
It was never I never felt like I was working
entire life.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Are there any moments in your career that you wish
you could go back and like do again?
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Of course, I mean there always are.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Is there anyone that like sticks out?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I mean, you know, the first injury that I had
that really started this domino effect was my was that
when I tore my acl in mcl and schlotting in
twenty thirteen at the World Championships, and we shouldn't have
been racing. And I wish that I would have stuck
to my guns and protested and said, you know, this
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isn't right, you shouldn't shouldn't be doing this right now.
But I didn't because I'm a competitor and if my
competition wants to race, and then I'm in a race,
and I deep down I knew it wasn't right, but
I didn't stand up for myself and I should have.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
And for those who don't know, like, what wasn't right
about it?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
So we had originally the plan to start was like
eleven or eleven fifteen in the morning. It was hard
snow but foggy, and the fog stayed for a long time,
so we had delays every fifteen minutes from eleven o'clock
until we started at three pm. Wow, And by the
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time we raced, the light was getting darker and the
snow was slop and it was. What happened to me
was that I went off a jump and I landed
and my foot stuck in the soft snow, and I
consequently did somersaults over the tips of my skis. But
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the snow should never have been like that. We should
never have been racing in those conditions.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
It was.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
A lot of times.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
There's so much pressure to get these races off because
every time that you don't race, you lose millions and
millions of dollars, So there's a lot of ulterior motives unfortunately,
But yeah, it was the snow conditions were not acceptable
for any type of race.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's an interesting questions I've never even thought about, what
are the politics? A lot of are there, because obviously
there's politics and sports. Any time there's money that much
money involved, you're dealing with the political landscape of that sport.
But yeah, with skiing, I mean what there are there
a ton of politics and skiing, there.
Speaker 7 (41:24):
Are because there's so many variables.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
You know, the weather is a is a huge issue
for us.
Speaker 7 (41:31):
And again if you lose, if you get.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
A race canceled, it's between three and five million dollars
loss from wow organized organizing committee, and a lot of
these towns can't really afford. I mean there's insurance of course,
but you know a lot of these towns just it's
it's very difficult when that happens.
Speaker 7 (41:48):
And so.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
There are people pushing from all sides to try to
get these races done. And obviously there's a there's an
athlete's committee, but a lot of times were women and
the men don't tend to listen to us.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
But there's there's always paulitics and ski racing.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
It's it's a lot more complicated than most people think
or you know, because you don't really see it. But
the athletes are always fighting for safety and we're not
always succeeding.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
So because we're our time is slowly going. I wanted
to get into a little bit like where you are now.
But also just I consider myself like a frustrated athlete,
and I saw a soccer girl. So you just became
an owner in a soccer team, right, Salt Lake?
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Yeah, I mentioned investor in Angels City and Utah Royals.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Awesome and and this is becoming kind of a very
very popular thing right now. But it brings up the
bigger conversation, which is women in sports. And do you
find that you have a responsibility as being one of
the few women who've been able to kind of really
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make a not only a great living, but like come
out as that sort of iconic female professional in sports.
There's only really a handful that can actually sort of
pop out and make such a living. Do you find
out that you're retired that you have this responsibility to
really boost women's sports And how do you think it's
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going and now? And what's the goal? What's your ultimate goal?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
I mean my ultimate goal is to you know, help
pave a path so that you know, the generations behind
me have an easier way forward and can achieve more.
You know, I think for me, there's not you know,
a goal of I want to support a team so
I win a championship, Like I really don't care if
they want a championship. I'm supporting women in sports because
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I want to show them that I support them, and
I want to, you know, try to encourage others to
support women in sports.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
You know. I want to get the viewership up.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I want to get you know, people to pay attention
so that they can get the paychecks that they deserve
and they can be seen outside of their sport. You know.
I think when you're an athlete, you have to focus
on the task at hand. You know, you have to
focus on your job, and you know, oftentimes you miss
out on opportunities, you know, if you're not like me.
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I was always working really hard outside of ski racing
to create, you know, a life for myself, to create
a brand that you know, would last me after ski racing,
because ski racing you make zero dollars, and so I think,
you know, sometimes if you don't have that mentality, you
can miss a lot of opportunities. So I want to
try to create opportunities for those women so that they
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don't miss anything, so that they have, you know, a
platform that they can stand on that they can you know,
hopefully succeed in life, not just in sports.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
But you see it, you know, Angel City was.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
You know, Serena and villagean King and and you know
so many people who love supporting women in sports and
it I definitely think it's set the tone for the
NWSL and what they're able to achieve now. You know,
it's it got this snowball rolling and it's picking up steam,
and you know, it's transcending now to you know, basketball
(45:22):
and you know volleyball, college college sports are taking off,
and that's only that's going to help all women. You know,
it doesn't just help this one specific group of women.
It helps all women. And it shows, you know, kids
what's possible. You know, every generation, you know, you set
the bar and when kids see that bar being set
even higher, they know that they can get there. You know,
(45:45):
I think it's setting me example. And you know, for me,
I've always felt a responsibility to give back and to
support other women because you know, knowingly or not, Peekaboo
Street was my idol and I met her at honograph
signing in Minnesota when I was nine years old, and
because of her, I wanted to be an Olympian and
so you know, I want to I want to give
(46:05):
that opportunity to others and I want to try to
inspire and push and and show girls that they can
achieve anything they're set their mind to, which is why
I started my foundation where we have we have programs
and scholarships for underserved girls.
Speaker 7 (46:19):
But it all comes from the premise of of.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Peekaboo and what she did for me, and and I
want to do that for others.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Peekaboo is bad ass this boss. So wait are you?
Did you start a volleyball league? I am yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
I I I interviewed uh Bodie and Morgan, and the
big announcement for her was they're moving back to OC
and she's going to play. She's going to play again indoor.
Speaker 5 (46:54):
Training her ass off right now.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
Yeah, I don't know how she does it.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
I can't belave it.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
Every thing. It's like, that's im problem.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, We've known body for a long time. He's so chill,
you know, it's almost like you don't know what he's
feeling or thinking.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
You're like, okay, at one point, goes to another, money
comes back around to that point You're like, I don't
know what.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, yeah, but you know he's like, look, we lived
in big sky, sacrificed the ton.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
She sacrificed the tons. She was getting stir crazy. She's like,
I gotta, I gotta get out of here.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
I got so excited.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I'm no.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
More.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
One more thing about women's sports. You know, it's as
far as women getting paid for what they do, Like,
what are your thoughts about all that?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
And I'm only playing.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Devil's advocate because at the end of the day, how
do athletes get paid. It's the revenues come from, you know,
the amount of viewers.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Who are watching advertising dollars.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Advertising dollars. So how do you reconcile that?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Yeah, I mean advertising makes the world go around, right,
you know, the more viewers you have, the more people
want to spend on that advertising, and in turn, the
more women get paid. And I think that that's the
number one focus is really getting eyeballs onto the sport,
you know. I think in WNBA, ticket sales are definitely
a portion of you know, the business and it needs
(48:17):
to be you know, sold out as much as possible
for them to you know, get their money. But you know,
I've I'm now you know, investing in you know, not
just me personally, but I'm helping another investment group with
you know, investing in different sports leagues, and and what
I've really found out, you know, in the ins and
(48:37):
outs of sports is literally every sport revolves around viewership.
The more people are watching, you know, the more you're
going to get paid. And and I think women's sports
is showing that, you know, we do have the viewership.
I think the reason why women haven't gotten paid before
is that it wasn't on TV. You know, people weren't
watching because it wasn't on TV. And people who were
(48:58):
deciding that was on TV were men, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So I think, yeah, we weren't investing in female stars
in sports like no, because.
Speaker 7 (49:05):
They didn't think anyone would watch.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
If you think about it, like, I don't think anyone
thought that so many people.
Speaker 7 (49:11):
For example, like the volleyball game in Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Would anyone have thought that ninety five thousand people would
come to a football stadium to watch a volleyball game?
Speaker 7 (49:20):
Probably not, you know.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
So I think that just the amount of people that
are showing up for women are proving the point that
there are people that want to watch, millions of people
that want to watch women in sports. And when we
improve that point, it'll be more on TV, and then
we'll get more ad revenue, and then the athletes in
turn will get more money. So it's a snowball effect
and we have to keep pushing forward. We have to
(49:43):
keep pushing networks to put you know, women's sports on
TV and continue to prove prove the point so that
women whenmen will get paid mm h one percent.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
As as someone who's as competitive us as you are, right,
you look at Kareem Lebron just broke points record.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
You know, you've held records.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
I was there, I was there.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
You hold records.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
Okay, when it gets broken, when shifferent sort of breaks
the record, I know everyone's excited for everyone as a competitor.
I've always wondered this is it kind of like bittersweet, like, hey,
I love her thinking fuck off? I mean is there
a part of that, like is Kareem high fiving and
at the same time, God damn it.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
I mean, you know, Kareem's not doing jumping up and down,
but you know, Ron broken. But I think there's a
mutual respect there. And you know, it's so hard to
get to that level of success. You know, I respect
Michaela and what she was able to achieve. You know,
it's it's so impressive. I can't you know, can't say that.
(50:50):
I'm not disappointed that my records aren't there. But at
the same time, you know, that's what it's meant to
be there for.
Speaker 7 (50:57):
You know, it's meant to be broken.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
And the next generation is next to be is meant
to be better than the one before. You know, I
broke the record by twenty wins and Mikayla's you know,
twenty wins ahead of me. So that's just that's progression.
That's the way it's meant to go. And I think
for me, it's just a matter of respect, and I
have always respected her and what she's achieved.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
So how cool that I've been If you guys were
the same era, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (51:26):
But then there's someone else that's coming up behind. No,
it's it's uh.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Nature of the beast?
Speaker 7 (51:32):
Is that? Then?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I got one more question? Hold on Aspen Veil, all right?
There always has been this weird rivalry.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Okay, So there's Hats in Aspen, which we've been there
for forty years down valley, but in the valley, you know,
there's Hats Veil sucks fuck Veil. I'm sure it's similar
in veil.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
What is this. I don't even understand it, really, I don't.
Speaker 6 (51:55):
Really understand it that I will say the kids, like
I've talked to a lot of kids in the last
couple of years, and they still the rivalry.
Speaker 7 (52:02):
Is still the hair still well. And I don't know
why it is. I think you guys, I think Aspen
is bougie, a little bit more bougie. Yeah, as is not.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Bail is not totally lift tickets are the same, the
same price. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (52:22):
It's an interesting thing and it's always been that way.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Now.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
The question is, the question is what is the better mountain,
the better.
Speaker 6 (52:31):
Mount without doubt Bail, Like I can't you can't even
deny that Bail is by.
Speaker 7 (52:35):
Far the best mountain, is one of the best. True,
it's it's it has everything.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It's true.
Speaker 5 (52:41):
A lot of time you skied the back bowls at
Bail has been years.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
A long long time I went to Boulder, So I
used to go to Bail, Okay all the time.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, but it's been a minute. You're still skiing, of.
Speaker 7 (52:53):
Course, obviously.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Oliver before we got on, was like, I just want
to ski with Lindsay. I'm like I think we can
make that.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yes, we can obviously make that happen.
Speaker 5 (53:02):
It's not because he wants to see you ski.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
It's because he I want to show off for you.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
You to see how.
Speaker 7 (53:12):
But I'm ready for that.
Speaker 5 (53:14):
Let's try to do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
I'm down.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's the question.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Okay, we can do it in Europe. You know, Okay,
everybody knows you with the skier. Everybody knows you as
iconic athletes. But what is something about you that people
don't know about you?
Speaker 6 (53:32):
I don't know, like, I'm a really family oriented person.
I mean I'm I'm the same Minnesota girl. I think
everyone thinks that I've become you know this whatever you know,
big sports star. Am I'm just the same person I
always have been. I've never changed. You know, my friends
from when I was seven years old in Minnesota are
(53:53):
still my friends from Minnesota, and you know I haven't.
I haven't changed who I am. It's I just think
it's a common misconception that you know and even honestly,
my family in Wisconsin thinks I'm Hollywood, but I am
very far from that.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Awesome good Okay, well more, one more question.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
How much pressure are you putting on your inside ski
when you're making a turn.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
It should be like, honestly fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
I can't seem to get that.
Speaker 7 (54:25):
I think you're inside and probably wrong. I think we
need to look at your setup.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (54:31):
Mean, why hasn't your friend body helped you with that?
Speaker 3 (54:33):
That's his stuff because he doesn't care really, he's just
sort of like, you know, whatever, just do it whatever,
just fucking ski.
Speaker 6 (54:40):
Well, we should ski together and I can love to.
I need to get you the right equipment, you know, bodies.
We need to get you on head, not.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
On, not peak, some stuff, all right, okay, good good, Yeah, Well,
thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
This has been super fait, super true.
Speaker 7 (54:58):
Thank you guys so much. I'm busy, so thank you.
It was great to you guys, and we'll go skiing soon.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Yes, do it.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Bye guys, Bye,
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