Living Up to the Legacy with Riley Keough

Growing up as the granddaughter of Elvis Presley, and the daughter of Lisa Marie came with blessings and burdens.
Riley Keough opens up to Kate and Oliver about her generational legacy and the tragedies that made her who she is today.
Plus, more on the private memories she shares in her new book "From Here to the Great Unknown."

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Reivalry.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Ravelry.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. I'm really excited, Oliver, because we are interviewing
my friend, Riley Kioff. And she is the sweetest, kindest,
most loving, wonderful, talented, beautiful human and she has a

(00:56):
lot now released her book from Here to the Great Unknown,
and she finished sort of the book that her mom
had started. And I'm just excited to talk to herself.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
So that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, no, yeah, it's amazing. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, I don't think i've met her, even though she's
sort of in the mix with you and you know, Jamie,
I think styles her and I don't, but I don't
think i've I don't think i've ever met her. She's
really she's in for a real treat.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well let's bring her on because Okay, I love her.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Hi.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Hi, Hi, I'm so happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yay, I'm so happy you're here. This is so fun.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
I love your Christmasy background. Hi, Oliver, How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
How are you good? How you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:39):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Allie was just saying that he doesn't think that you
guys have met, and I was, are you sure?

Speaker 6 (01:45):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
No, yeah, I don't think so. He's just been in
the mix in and around Jamie and Kate and posts
and outfits and garments and this and this. Yeah, that's
that's how I know you.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
You meet you on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well let's get into it because you you know, you've
had your book out, which, by the way, how has
that been for you?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
It's been interesting. I Uh, it's very intense, so I
it's not like it's normally when you're doing press, you're
talking about a thing you worked on or a you know, uh,
something that's removed from yourself a lot of the time,
and you kind of try and avoid the personal stuff.
But with this, it's like only very personal. So it's

(02:30):
kind of goes against a lot of my instincts to
like keep those things to myself. So it's been very bizarre.
But ultimately what's been really wonderful is a lot of
the feedback has been really like, uh, very human and
like the human like people read it and have real

(02:51):
connection to the experience, And I think that that's been
something that in my life I haven't experienced a lot
because I think there's been such like a separateness with
regards to my family that it doesn't feel very human.
So I think when people write to me or come
up to me at the you know, book talks and stuff,
and they have these really relatable experiences, like, that's been

(03:15):
really wonderful.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, do you find that, like also maybe opening up
a part of your life has made it not so
scary anymore?

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Oh, for sure. Like I really think that for me,
there's always Catharsis in honesty and like live and being
open in general. So I find personally the more that
I carry things alone or don't share them with even friends,
they're troublesome to me. So I in my life like

(03:47):
to always, you know, share what I'm going through or
what my experience is. So I do think that taking
something out of secrecy and sort of into the light
is healing.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Is that something that you will you said you weren't
even able to do with friends at some point, meaning
you know you keep things inside generally or are you
a very open person?

Speaker 6 (04:11):
I'm pretty open, but I think that there are times
when I've gone through experiences where I just think, you know,
I'll get through this by myself, and then it gets
to a point where it kind of bubbles up and
I share it, and then I'm like, oh, I feel
so much better that I've shared this experience with a
friend who's had a similar experience. And I think that

(04:33):
sort of human connection is really important.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I want to add to this. I mean, I know
that for me, and maybe maybe this will feel relatable,
maybe not, but I know that there's a part of
me that when I entered like a more public you know,
when I became a more sort of public name, felt
very protective of my family's way of how they want

(04:57):
to live and protecting the thing and their privacy, and
so you kind of like can't share or feel like
sometimes you don't can't really share this huge part of
your life that even if you wanted to express it
and protecting everyone else, you sort of keep it in.
And and I think that that that sometimes when you start

(05:21):
to kind of open it up. I think for Olliver
and I that happened on this podcast a little bit.
It's like we sort of started to be like, you know,
it's so this is this actually is our life? Yeah,
my own life, Like we kind of have to talk
about things and open it up that once you do,
you're like, oh, that feels so much better.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Why was I so weird about this?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Why was I so weird? And it's really because you
feel like you're I think like protecting your your your mom,
or you're or you know, your grand you know, it's
like Rider. I think about Rider, Like what's going to
happen when Ryder does a movie and goes on his
first talk show between like how does he talk about
his great parents or his parents? Like you become sort

(06:03):
of a politician about it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, but what you're doing with a book that is
expressive and sort of telling your truth is you're able
to control the narrative, you know you. And then that
book goes out there with with what I found, with
what Katie and I do on this podcast, where yes,
there has been a freedom, you know, sort of an openness.

(06:24):
All of a sudden, it's all clickbait and it's picked
up like Olarah Hudson fucking hates.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
It's so silly. That stuff so silly, And I do
feel lucky that it doesn't really affect me, like I
I understand the need to like create clickbait and and
it's so silly because you open up the article and
it's like totally out of context and yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
And we're all victims. Like I'll click on things like
you know, shark like tears off somewhere. Oh what is that?

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Click on?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But then you click on it's just such a disappointment.
It's like a blow up toyo cool shark. It sort
of scraped some kids like finger. You know, this is
what I wanted to try to get.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Riley, what was your childhood? Like, I mean, I know
it's like a really big question, but you know, how
do you feel like you had a seemingly normal childhood
or do you feel like you grew up in an
extraordinarily not normal well child.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
I'm able to see that I grew up in an
extraordinarily not normal situation, but it felt normal because it
was the only life that I knew. But you know,
when you talk about when we talk about like secrecy
and stuff, like when I was growing up, it was
so like everything was very locked down. There was no
sharing any information. Like I never was able to tell

(07:55):
anyone where I lived or what I where I was
or you know, like it was very uh private, like
constantly seeing my everyone lying around me. You know, like
if we'd walk into a store and with my mom,
they'd be like, where are you from? She'd like make
up a store, you know, just like constant Like there
was no there was no writing our information anywhere. So

(08:20):
that was kind of and it was in the nineties,
and it was so much different than it is now,
Like people didn't really share their whole lives on Instagram
and and so I grew up in that kind of era,
which was like very private and like the idea of
a reality show or sharing your you know, intimate details

(08:42):
was very like embarrassing something.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, it's a different world now, but you know, it
was a really unusual circumstance. And my mom was extremely famous,
and what that meant kind of back then was very
different to what it means now. And I know, hate
you experienced, you know, generations of what that felt like.
But it was like there wasn't so many famous people,

(09:08):
so it was like there's much more attention on you,
and it was just like intense, it was like, but
it was all I you know, all I was used
to so I didn't, you know, and at the time,
like when I was young, it was probably when my
mom was the most famous in her life, and and.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So it was just you know, like you did you
do you remember at first of how old were you
when she was like sort of the most famous, you know, only.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Birth until I was like when I was about seventeen.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
At calm down, Okay, So did you feel did you
feel like you a part of you just didn't like this,
you know, I mean, was there a rebellious nature to it?
Did you welcome it? You know? I mean speaking of clickbait,
One of the things that I said a little while
back was I didn't like when people came up to

(10:01):
my mom when I was a kid. It made me crazy.
I was like, leave me the fuck alone, right, And
I expressed that story, and literally the headlines were Oliver
like hated his mother's fans, like that was that was
the headline. But you know, how did you how did
you sort of take all of it in?

Speaker 6 (10:19):
I don't That's an interesting question. But I don't think
that I had a preference because I didn't. I didn't
know that. I didn't think there was an option. But
I kind of like just lived in it, like I uh,
you know, it was everything was really you know, we
leave the house, it's like ten security guards, and I
go to school, they're Like. What I didn't like was

(10:40):
a lot of the time I'd have security on everywhere
with me, so like it made it really hard to
have genuine experiences as a kid. Like they'd sit outside
my school if I went to a friend's house, you know,
if I slept over at a friend's house, they park
outside the friend's house.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
So I remember when I was like fourteen or fifteen,
I wanted to go to the mall with my friends,
and I begged my mom to please not have security
for like just once, and it was embarrassing to me
to have someone following me around. Yeah, And then I
went and she said that was okay, and we were

(11:17):
walking around the mall and then lo and behold like.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
A security guard.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
I was, I'm so upset, you know, like I was.
I was so embarrassed and so upset. But my friends
didn't know, but I knew, you know, and I was
really mad. So I think there were a couple of
times where I was really desperate to have like a
normal experience and whatever with my friends, and it just
wasn't possible for me. And what it did do is
like my life right now is very simple, and so

(11:46):
I definitely prefer like, for example, like I have a
weird thing where I don't really want to hire a
full time assistant because I want to do things myself,
you know, like I grew up in an environment where
everyone did everything all the time. Yeah, for you, and
so I definitely prefer a smaller life as an adult.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah. Isn't it interesting though, how you can go one
way or the other.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
It could have been like, oh, I need assistance, right,
or it's like no, no, no, no, I don't want that.
Here's here's what I need totally.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
And I think that's true. Some people grow up in
that situation and then it kind of just that's their
expectation and they want that all the time. Or for me,
it was more I did sort of desire to have
a more normal life that you know, where I could
walk into a coffee shop and I was really lucky
to be able to have that. You know, my mom
never had that option, no.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I know, I mean she's yeah, I mean she's.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Really imagine Taylor Swift, I mean, it's like it's great
and she's doing incredible things, but like you that's it.
You cannot have a normal life. There's God. That's a yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
And it also depends on what you want, you know,
Like I I agree, you know, like I have a
few friends. There's sometimes where I'll see people that are
at a level of fame that for me, I would
not enjoy because I grew up watching that And maybe
I don't know, it's not like I love, like I
really value being able to like walk around and go

(13:20):
into a coffee shop and not be stuck in my
house twenty four seven, like my mom. You know, we
did go out, but it was a thing.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Do you think that you're managing your career with that
in the back of your mind, because you can't. You
can't control your fame unless you choose not to do things.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
It's interesting you say that. I think I did for
a long time avoid things that could potentially make my
life very different, you know. And I as an actor,
like I definitely was look I prefer small, like I
prefer a certain type of film. But I also there
was a part of me that was like, oh God,

(14:01):
if I go that route, I could you know. Maybe
I don't know if I would enjoy that so much.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I also think it's a personality thing. I have to say,
Like I I like the reality is like it's like
if you build it, it will come right, you know.
It's like field of dreams. Like I have to be honest,
like I've never had full time security, even even when

(14:30):
I've had like weirdos or like you know, twenty five
paparazzi following you. I think you invite in a certain
type of vibe by the way.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I have to say I agreed with this to an
extent because I have had someone recently said, like commented
on how I travel like by myself, and I'm not
like I'll show up places alone and I don't have
like a big group of people that come with me anywhere.
And someone said, you're very like low key, And I
was like, well, if you travel that way, you get

(15:04):
more on you.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know, that's right, Like I'm similar to you, Like
I'll walk down the street all by myself. I don't
have that. I don't want I go. I travel by myself.
I do you know, I don't bring a thousand people.
And people always comment on and you're like because if.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
I don't want to be weird man, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I want to put my hat on and walk down
the street. And that's it, and that's what you invite.
And I really think it's what you put out.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm opposite. I'm opposite. I have sy security, I have
five people around me at all times.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You think about it though, like Elvis is your grandpa, Like,
of course, it takes a little bit of an adjustment
and maybe some generational shifts to get to realize that,
you know, there is that there are other ways to
also be in the arts and to not invite in
that kind of hysteric are you know?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well, our father actually with our connection is our dad cured.
His first role ever, I think was kicking Elvis in
the shins. Wasn't it really his first role? Yeah, he
was nine years old, was a.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Scene with I think you told me this, I need
to look up.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah. Then he nominated for Golden Globe for playing.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Played Elvis and what like changed his career. And then
mom stayed in your grandpa's place in Vegas when she
was doing her variety show.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
That's right, So you just told me this, that's say.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And he like called her a chicken and she that's
so cute. It's really cute. And it was so cute
because our daughters were like walking together and I was like, God,
you know, sometimes you step outside of like the life
that you just know, and you really can see like
the imprint of what generationally in the arts and in

(17:02):
that our family has had that sort of is really
spectacular and so amazing. And then to like see the generations,
the younger generation, like good, you know, what are you
gonna do? What's going to be your co.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
It's true and and you know, all for all the
clickbait searchers out there, like, I feel very lucky to
have grown up in my family and for the opportunities
you know, that I've gotten. And it wasn't it wasn't
like I was making some big effort to escape the family.
There's no headline, you know. It was just like I
just prefer being low key, and I think that you know,

(17:41):
I I don't actually like attention on me, which is
why this book tour has been kind of intense, and
people keep asking, well, then why are you, you know,
in this industry, and I'm like, because there's literally nothing
else I could.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Do that's funny. No, I know, it's it's it's funny, kay.
And I look at our kids and all the cousins
are best best friends. We got super lucky there. But
every single one of them wants to be in this business,
right because they've seen their uncles, their aunts, their grand

(18:12):
their grand you know, parents, and it's like it's as
if they know nothing else, right, And and that's.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Sort of how it is. It's like if you're growing
up in a household of doctors, you know. And I
think for you know, I'm sure we've had a similar
experience where you grow up with this is the industry
your family are in, and that's kind of all you
assume that you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's also an amazing industry with a million different things
to do inside of that, exactly know what I mean.
Like Wrider, for instance, he loves to make furniture, Like
he's getting obsessed with making furniture and design, you know,
And I'm like, you know, he's he's a wonderful actor
and hopefully has great success, but like he also can

(18:55):
like do stage design. You know, there's a million things
he could do side of you know, the world of storytelling.
It's like it's the only art form where you really
truly take multiple, multiple different art forms to do one thing.
You know, you think about like from fashion to make up,

(19:16):
to production design to music to sound, like just.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Horticulture, like greenery. I mean, if you could take anything,
I can get.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Back to like your childhood, you know, so you when
did you kind of when was the when you started
realizing not just your mom, but sort of like the family,
the big nits, the sort of iconicness because I mean,
let's be honest, like you couldn't come from a more
iconic you know, Lenny. I mean if Elvis Presley being

(20:07):
your grandpa, Priscilla you know, being your grandmother, I mean,
this is like they're legends, and so like, when did
that hit you?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
I don't think. I'm sure it's the same experience you
have with your kids where it just doesn't hit them.
It's just like what they know, you know, and like
they're never like they're like, you know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Sure I don't know it is Elvis.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Right, But I think that Ronnie or all your children
just used to all the things and people coming up
to you, and that they either just used to it,
you know, and it was the same thing. I just
it was all I knew. So I there's no memory
of ever clicking or something. It just was always there,
you know.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, I get that because there wasn't that light bulb
moment where it was always like that. So there was
never that sort of punchwards like holy shit, No it.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Was I think it was holy It was the intensity
of it was there from birth, you know, So it
just was all I knew.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
So now you start your own career and you decide
to do the girlfriend experience where you basically are as
raw and open and available and sexual and all of
these things. Did you have Was there any part of
you that thought, oh God, is this the right move?

(21:33):
And I say that in the best way because it
was so You're so amazing and it was just like
so fucking great, great, But like you just had you
were just felt it was amazing, Like you would never
think knowing you that you would just be so free.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
I think that, like my the performer part of me
like is separate to the Elvis's granddaughter part of me,
and that I just like don't think about them in
the same with the same brain or something, you know,
Like I feel like my choices as an actor and
whatever director are very much like separate to the Elvis dynasty,

(22:17):
you know, like and so I just kind of it's instinctual.
It's like, you know, whatever is feeling like the right
thing to do at the right time. Of course, there's
things in my career that I'm not as proud of,
but for the most part, it's all just what my
sensibility is as an actor and an artist. I guess,

(22:38):
but I guess I.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Like, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
I definitely do work that's more. You don't know what
the word is, like, I don't know, not super safe,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, you like to take risks, but I think.

Speaker 6 (22:55):
That's just fun for me. I like things that make
me feel uncomfortable and like out of my comfort zone
and like a challenge and make me think and but
not you know, not just for risk's sake, just things
that are inspiring to me.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, because I remember when my when I my my
best girlfriend who I also produced with, was like, watch
this show right now.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I think what was exciting about that was that it
was it felt like a unique viewpoint on sex work
that I hadn't seen before, and it felt like it
was actually liberating to women in it, and now I
think there's a lot more of that kind of content,
But at that time, it felt very like I hadn't
seen anything that portrayed sex work in this way that

(23:41):
felt empowering.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know, it's pretty amazing. I just think you're so
many Maybe.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
You should try doing sitcoms multi multi Riley. You just
you just said you wanted to do something out of
the box, dangerous, something that scares you. When you were
saying that, I was like, I'll bet you a sitcom,
but free. Yah.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I through through my journey in this industry, trying different things,
like I kind of know my zone and I feel
like I, you know, like I I have a handle
on it, and I think that I don't know if
I would I don't know if I would get hired
for a sitcom.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You never know, you never know, you never know. Do
you feel like that, you know? I think, I guess
it's weird for me to ask these questions because I
feel like I get asked these questions all the time,
and sometimes they are just such annoying questions. But do
you feel like you were treated differently than other people

(24:48):
in the industry just based on your your family?

Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think It's a good question to ask because you
you can relate, you know what.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
I mean, there's I'm really curious if you relate to
this because you have a different last name. And I
had actually a lot of experiences where people didn't know
and I would go in an audition and like people
had no idea, and I'm really lucky that I had that.
And even like up until my mom passed away, there

(25:19):
would be a lot of times where I would be
on a movie set and people, you know, in the cast,
like close people would be like, wait, you're Elvis's granddaughter. Like,
so I there was a separation that occurred that I
was a little bit undercover, like when I started auditioning
regularly and just going in rooms, like I was just
doing the whole cattle call thing, and I don't think

(25:41):
people necessarily knew it.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, similar so like because I had a last name,
like some people did because they.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Knew people family friends or something.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, but all in all, like because of my last name,
there wasn't it wasn't the same. Yeah. Even when I
did my first movie, I did this, like or one
of my first movies, like I play this Irish girl,
and like people in Ireland actually thought it was like
a new upcoming Irish actress. I was like, yes, this

(26:12):
is the best.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I was the opposite. I'd go into auditions on the
sign and sheet and write Oliver Hudson Goldiehan's son.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
I think.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
It's funny, like I think in hindsight, my mom was
so like weird about being a celebrity kid that I
walked around with like an embarrassment of it.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Like she was very me. I was the same way.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, So her kind of the way she was was
very much like, don't be an embarrassing celebrity kid, don't
do don't be you know, all these sort of tropes
like don't fall into these stereotypes and if you like
her if she she really felt like she really didn't
like attention. She was very like her experience being a

(27:02):
very famous child was like I don't want this, like
very much like I don't want this and I actually
hate it. So that was projected onto us growing up too,
which was like you don't go places unless you have to,
you don't show up to the thing, Like there was
no enjoying of the the or basking and the fame.
It was like I hate it. I hate it so right,

(27:22):
that was her vibe, and so that was kind.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Of very nineties. It's a very eighties nineties vibe.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Right yeah. Yeah, yeah, so it was like very much
like uh yeah, so I think there was a part
of me that felt a little embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, it was embarrassed. I also just didn't want anyone
to know, right. You know that was a big.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Thing for me, because are like two separate things, right,
You're talking about more of like being a young kid,
and for your mom, I'm assuming it was like what
what what you would see a lot of which is
like you know, even if you were like so many
acts or is back in the nineties and stuff would
be like, you know, you only did David Letterman and

(28:05):
like maybe a junket and like you never talked about things. Yeah,
you're like, I don't talk to a reporter. I don't,
I won't. I'm not going to do that. Like it
was like cool to not not do it.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, but I do think that it probably like
what you were saying, Oliver, like I'd also had that
outside of work where I didn't tell I didn't want
and I say this with my little sisters, like you
don't they didn't want people to know, because I think
they wanted. I wanted to like have genuine connections with

(28:39):
people and friendships. So I definitely like wasn't telling people,
and I would go really far with it and pretend
that like you know, I don't know, like try and
be just a person that.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. I would make it a
point to have you know, make people not know, you know,
I mean it was going to camp and like that
was Blonwe we told the story a million times, but
like you know, basically Mom revealed herself in a crazy
way at camp and we're trying to be anonymous and
a seaplane flies over and she gets out. She goes, yeah,

(29:14):
I'm here. I mean it was like intense, right.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I had like three different names that I would like
like my my, like rotating personalities with like different accents.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
You know.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I think that I think the harder parts have been
would be to me informing genuine connections and as a
kid and that kind of thing and just wanting to yeah,
present as a person.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
When you know, when your mom passed, you know, I
have to say, like watching you and I told you
this in person, but I watching the way that you've
really kind of like you know, been talking about it
and expressing yourself around your mother is such a I

(30:00):
don't brave. It feels like such a silly word, but
it just it. I guess I really admire it because
you're it must be so hard to do, you know,
to like finish the work of your mom. You know,
I know this book is really your mom was working
on it and you sort of then were really like

(30:25):
had to see something through for her and then to
go out and then talk about her and talk about
your relationship with her, Like you're doing it in such
a graceful, wonderful way, and I just I really do
admire it. Riley. It's it's it must at some moments

(30:46):
feel very challenging, but maybe I'm maybe I'm just projecting.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
I think it's challenging because it's really counterintuitive, like and
that's what I've had to really work through, like being
open about my family and again, like it was always
like secret secrets, don't talk about this, and the fact
that my mom even wanted to write a book was
really out of character kind of but I think it
was just towards the end of her life or and

(31:11):
she was reflecting on a lot of things and feeling
like if she shared these things with other people that
they might relate in like the human experience and not
feel so alone in the world. And that was so
important to her that that has kind of pushed me through,
you know, the uncomfortable moments, and and it's it's ego

(31:32):
for me, you know, it's like my ego is like, oh,
don't don't do that, Like it's I don't know, I
can't explain it, but I feel very like it's not
me I would have chosen to do.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I was just about to ask that question, how much
of how much of this is for your mother and
how much of this is for yourself doing this book?

Speaker 6 (31:51):
It's one hundred percent from my mother, and it's in
fact makes me a little bit uncomfortable sometimes. But the
way through that to me is just being open and
and gen you know, as opposed to like closed off
and deserve men.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
That's interesting because it's one hundred percent for your mom,
which means that you would never have done this, you
know normally. Right, So now after you have done it,
would you say that that percentage has changed a little
bit after you have completed it and gone through some
of the processes of promoting or is still one hundred
percent or are you like, you know what, I'm taking

(32:25):
something from this now, but I didn't think I was
going to.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I think that I really have, like the it's actually
a privilege to be able to publish a book with
your family's history in it, and I actually think it's
such an amazing thing to leave also to my daughter

(32:51):
and my grandchildren. And so that part of this has
been for me in a sense, like I think it's
really amazing to have this book that now my grandchildren
can read and that exists forever. So that's for selfishly,
I that's what I like about this process, is that

(33:12):
this thing exists now that you know, my children can
read and their children can read. And then I think
that back to what we were saying earlier, like being
super candid and honest, I always find beneficial to myself, Like,
so there's things in this book that are things that

(33:33):
not a lot of people know who are are new
before the book, and detailed experiences of things that were
really traumatic in my life that you knew if you
were in my friend group, but you didn't know if
you're you know, just a human in the world, and
there's something really cathartic about taking things out of like
I was saying, out of the sort of dark and

(33:53):
and anyone to see sort of bearing your heart.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
And yeah, you talk about like depression and the cycle
of addiction generationally, and and you know, I I would
think too that would also kind of like again, like
they say that it's sort of like you know, breaking
cycles or like breaking the you know, cutting cutting through

(34:18):
that circle and maybe starting a different path is also
for your daughter, for your sisters, for yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
Know, and a lot of people through the press have
kind of said, how does it feel to break the cycle,
And I'm I don't know if I have you know,
it's a lot of it's a lot of pressure to
put on me. I hope it gets broken, but I
don't know if I've done that, you know. So I
think that that's that's something where I'm I feel like
I was lucky that I didn't get addiction and I didn't.

(34:49):
It wasn't something I was you know, I yeah, it
wasn't something that I chose or didn't choose or was
strong through. It was. I just didn't have that.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
It's it's one of those things, you know, where it
really it really does, you know, it can really like
follow it. Like that's why they ask, you know, when
you're you have a history of depression in your family,
do you know? And when it affects people, you just
wish you could just take it. You just wish you

(35:22):
could take it away, you know, because especially when you
don't have those experiences, you know, where you don't actually
relate to it. Yeah, but you see someone suffering.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I wonder if there's a genetic Again, I don't know
the science, but as far as whether or not, you know,
addiction is genetic, depressionist genetic, and I think there probably
is some connection there that learned you know, nature, nurture,
learned behavior or not. You know. But with your kid,
I mean, is this something that you will be hyper

(35:55):
aware of as she grows.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
It's something that I am definitely I'm gonna think about
because I didn't as a kid, you know, I didn't
really I guess there was in hindsight, addiction sort of
growing all around me, but there wasn't really an awareness
of it. It would just to me felt like we
like to party a lot, you know, I didn't feel problematic.
So now definitely my like awareness of addiction is much stronger,

(36:24):
and I think I do have anxiety around it, you.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Know, Yeah, I always think too.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I wonder I would be interesting to talk to like
someone who studies it. But I always think it's just
the right brain thing. Like very creative people who lean
more right brain, they don't have a lot of access
to the linear. And this is just me. I could
talking about something I don't really know, just my you know,

(37:00):
I guess a theory. But is that that because that
is sort of where depression sits. It's where anxiety. It's
all right brained activity that if if you're too overstimulated
in your right brain, or if that's the thing that's
working all the time, that it's going to lend itself
to you know, depression, which I think also is probably

(37:23):
interconnected with addiction. But that would be actually a really
interesting podcast, Oliver, that we haven't done.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
You should talk to an addiction specialist. I mean, it's
so that's what's so. Yeah, It's like there's so many stories,
like so many different versions of it. Like my mom's
was so weird. She wasn't an addict at all, and
then when she was forty she was so you never.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Like it's it's that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
I always wonder about the genetic component.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I don't know how everyone's a little bit different, you know.
When it comes to that.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
And it's filling, I think it's filling some void or
some whole m h feeling of emptiness and you know
how it gets there, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, ok, God, Yeah, sometimes I get nervous, like, you.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Know, a little.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
You know, I'm not drinking a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I like to drink.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, I mean, I've been better in the last you know,
couple weeks, meaning I'm not drinking during the week, but
on the weekend I'll sort of time on. But I
would get I was in the cycle of like just
drinking every day and it wasn't just a glass of
wine or two. I would sit down, but I'd enjoy it.
I'd be at my computer and googling shit and fishing

(38:38):
and reading articles, and all of a sudden, I've had
like eighteen whiskeys and smoked a pack of cigarettes, and
just like Jesus Christ, dude was like, what the fuck?
And it was just kept happening.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
We also live in a world that's like telling us
every day that feeling anything negative is wrong. And that
we have to be happy twenty four to seven. I
think it sets us up to fail because all of
these things, like depression has a purpose, anxiety as a purpose.
Like we're human beings and we're meant to feel lots

(39:12):
of things, and I think we especially with social media,
and it's just like it's it's there's like labels for
things that are where you feel like then something's fundamentally
wrong with you, Like I have depression. I have anxiety
when it's just like the human condition.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Too, Yeah, not with you. I mean I've suffered from
anxiety since my early twenties. Someone likes the pro and.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Am I anxiety?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah? I have crazy anxiety and like you know, I've
I've mitigated it with drugs, but you know, I've had
my bouts where it's been nuts, where I tried to
wean off and then just fall into this place of
complete I mean it's I I wouldn't wish it upon
the worst en. I mean, the feeling is so awful.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Dreadful, But I like being told that something is wrong
with you, right in certain situations.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, Like someone said to me one time, which I
thought was really great, and just how you talk to
your kids about it, which is when they're feeling anxiety
or you're feeling that it's actually like to look at
it differently, like that's good. That means your brain is
doing what it's supposed to do. The question then becomes,
how do we navigate this in this world versus the

(40:25):
world that your brain's living in at the moment, which
is that fight or flight.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Totally, I think that that's somewhere that we are not
very evolved as like in terms of helping people navigate
through difficult emotions, navigate through anxiety and depression. Like, there's
not a lot of resources that actually are really workable,
and I think that that should be focused on and

(40:49):
not so much that like something's wrong. I don't know,
I just throughout all my experiences something that has not
been sitting well with me is like the idea that
we're like not meant to feel.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah. Total, we're part of a billion a billion percent
and that's what's made it easier for me too. I mean,
first of all, the idea that you are not your anxiety,
you know what I mean, like you were not We
attach ourselves to those feelings when in reality they're completely separate,
you know, I mean, we are not that feeling. It

(41:24):
just is a feeling that happens an experience.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, it seems like when you're in it. Though, when
you're in it, it's like you're saying like it's so
hard to separate that that even someone's saying like you
are not your anxiety, Ollie, like in those moments, like
you know, it's like it's even hard.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
It's hard for you to see that, sure, sure, I
mean you know it's like you eat too much weed
and you're like, I know I'm not going to die
because you can't from THHC. But that doesn't mean that
I feel like my heart's about to explode.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
No, it doesn't take away like the knowingness of it
doesn't take away the panic.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Of a p sure, sure, but it can it can
sort of just squash that feeling, that that over the
top feeling where you can ruminate so much that you
lose your shit. You're feeling and it hurts, and there's pain,
like sometimes physical pain. But when you understand it enough
and you've been through it enough and experienced it enough

(42:24):
like I have, you can I can now just say, oh, well,
I'm feeling this, but all right, I'm cool, I'm not
going to lose.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Well, I felt this before, right, exactly got through it,
and I yeah, I definitely as you get older, I
think you realize it. Resistance to anything, whether it's anxiety, depression, Yeah,
like anything is like creates more, you know, grow. Resistance

(42:50):
is persistence. I love a bumper sticker, but I really
think that's true.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I also think what you're saying is so right, which
is like some somewhere down the line, like it's this
idea that you're living. I like the idea of striving
for like something that feels like optimum, right, Like that's
it's your right. I love that. But the reality is
is that that you It's like this, like like if

(43:22):
you think that the goal is to get to this
place and that's the that you're and you're going to
stay there and we're just living in like this weird
delusional space, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
It's so true. I try to almost try to appreciate
the really amazing moments in the day or in my
week where it's like, wow, I feel fucking perfect right now.
I'm like, oh my god, it's like I'm incredible. Everything's
life is. Yeah, it's like everything's lined up for like
twenty minutes and now that that's gone.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Yeah, I mean, look, who's to say maybe the goal
is is to be in that state all the time.
I don't know, but I know that like no one is,
and that like everybody suffers and has a crazy experience
in this world. And I think that that's where it
gets so personal. It's like somebody's life like experience and

(44:20):
lesson if you will, might be to be optimum the
whole time, and somebody else's might be to grow, you know,
strength through having panic attacks every day, you know. So
it's everyone's so different. So I think that it's like,
you know, accepting your own experience.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I listened to almost like every morning.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
I listened to There's like a rod to like beat
like chill beats.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
He's He's just every morning I put on like a
three to eight minute lecture or pieces of his lecture.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Where do you hear it? Like on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'll send it to you. I'll send yeah, yeah, it's
it's it's really, it's really something. And the other day
I listened to this one that was like, you know,
open heart is basically about like having an open heart
and listening and like, I think those are two things

(45:26):
that we're forgetting. No, I say we, I mean that's
just I think it's two things that would be nice
to add to all of this, like living your optimum
life wellness and well, it's like actually having an open
heart and really listening to somebody or listening to the
experience that might be happening. It only lends itself to compassion.

(45:49):
And no matter what someone's experiencing, if you're someone who's
really looking to like lead their life in that way,
then you're only gonna let in compassionate connectivity. And there's
something about that, Like if someone's struggling or suffering and
people are like, I want to help this, I want
to fix this. Sometimes what really it just is is

(46:11):
just being like is just really hearing them?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, yeah, No, I know it's it's it's it's tough
because I'm so with you and I look trust me,
I like, I love a good Brahm dos or quote
or the fuzzy feelings of these things.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Not leading with your open heart.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
No, but listen to me, Listen to me, because what
happens is you hear these inspirational sort of teachings and
sayings and in the moment you're like yeah, oh yes,
uh and then it ends and you're like, okay, now what,
like how do I do that?

Speaker 6 (46:43):
Implement?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
How do I implement that? And then and then and
then speaking to your thing about open heart and compassion
and all these things. I totally agree. I wish there
was self help that takes into account all of the
trauma or pain or the things that won't allow you
to actually open up and feel those things because we
all are calloused with that. It's easy to hear it

(47:06):
and it maybe makes you feel good in that moment,
but then you have to almost dig through your own
shit to actually feel it. You know.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
That's why listening like why it.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Sorry Oliver Hudson, but like really like.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Listening, Like like I think that's it's also like becomes
about It's like it's like you're it becomes your own experience,
like personal experience, Like it demands of you to stop
thinking about yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
No, I get it, I get it. But then I'm like,
here's here, give me an example. Okay, I'm gonna I'm
gonna listen. And now I'm like, am I listening good enough?
And I'm now I'm worried about my own listening instead
of actually listening, like should I look, should I break
eye contact or like look away? Oliver, Yeah, do you

(48:29):
mean it? It's hard for me. I mean I used
to a ton, honestly, and now no, I mean I
really need to put it back into play because I.

Speaker 6 (48:37):
Think that, like the mind chatter is the heart is
really hard. And I think that I think it actually
does take discipline, like exercise, Like I think that it's
like all good things take work, and I think that
just like having a fit body, you have to exercise
your mind. And I think meditation is you know, it

(48:58):
is is is great. But the thing is with it
is that it has to be something you really work at,
you know, and it's not about and it's a it's
also hard. It's not about what's sending out and feeling good.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That's my bumper sticker. Contentment is discipline.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah, That's why I think that, like there is something
to discipline in the mind because mind chatter is so ugh.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah, isn't it funny though? Because you don't I like
to run now and again, like I I can spend
an hour there, an hour doing the gym, five minutes
in a meditation. I resist. I mean I make an
excuse not to do it when it's literally five to
ten minutes of just sitting there and quiet. I mean,
it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I have a couple things like, and I think that
we have to touch on Graceland a little bit because obviously,
like it almost feels like this magical place that everyone
you just wish you could like be in it, but
you actually like have slept there, you hosted there, and

(50:01):
and like, what how do you see Graceland, Like what's
your connection to Graceland other than in.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
My lifetime it's only been a museum. So I did have,
you know, that awareness as a child growing up. But
also my mom was really like adamant on us having
experiences there that felt like a family and a home.
So we usually would just go at night and we'd

(50:30):
have dinner there and we would hang out in the
house and run around golf on golf carts. So a
lot of my memories there were very joyful, very fun
like family filled, family dinner type things. As we got older,
we would you know, have drinks in the you know,
jungle room and hang out till very late.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
So it was like a lot of joy can we
go together and have drinks in the jungle room.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
You don't understand, Kate. You need to ask Jamie and
and company about what happened it Gracelands stays at Graceland.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Can I come? I want to be invited?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Can we do it?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Girls Weekend at Graceland.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
Something happens there where it makes everyone just feel I
don't know, there's like an energy there and every time
you're there and I have friends, it's like there's some
wild stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I want in. I want in Girls Weekend and then
we'll go do our like holistic. We'll start at Graceland
and then.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
We'll the Southern food and the wild, and.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Then we'll go do our medical like we get some
spa and like eight hundred calories. You know, I mean,
I I know this sounds like you know, do you
do you have moments where you just can't believe your
mom's not here? Like through this whole process, Like does

(52:00):
it almost feel surreal?

Speaker 6 (52:01):
That A lot of my life in the past ten
years feels very surreal? And I do spend a lot
of time going what the fuck just happened? Like from
about twenty sixteen until now, my life was very bizarre.
So I it's like a lot of trying to process

(52:22):
what's happened because we had this like very normal, seemingly
great life and then everything sort of got turned upside
down around twenty sixteen and around when my mom's addiction started,
So it was it's it's definitely I'm still processing, like
the difference in my early you know, whole childhood and

(52:44):
early twenties into into now, and there's been so much
so I do I wake up in the middle of
the night and I'm like, what the fuck? Like this
is crazy?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, how does how does that?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
How does that happen? How does I mean, I asked
this an insane question, but how do you become how
do you become an addict? Forty er?

Speaker 6 (53:02):
You know?

Speaker 3 (53:03):
How does that work?

Speaker 6 (53:04):
I think it was a combination of a lot of things.
I think that she she always would say, you know,
if I was to try drugs, they would take me
out because I'm the kind of person who's like goes
hard basically, And she would say that all the time.
And I think she would like she always had her
father in mind, and I think that she basically, I

(53:27):
don't know. She had a C section, was given oxy
cotton and got really addicted did and I think it
also numbed a pain that was probably there and growing
her whole life. Yeah, it was just like a sort
of I don't know, emptiness or a broken heart that grew.

(53:49):
And I think that in that time she'd also like
kind of lost a lot of her friends in her community,
and so there were a lot of things that play.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
In that exact moment, perfect storm kind of Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, Well, I just love you. I sometimes feel like
I want to, Like I had this thing. I was
talking to my mom the other day and I was like,
I don't know what is about Riley, I just want to,
like everyone's want just like I see you on something
and I was like, I just want to like give
you like a massive hug, you.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
Know, because you feel bad for me, No.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Just because I love I love you like I love
your energy, the inner voice. I love your energy. I
like I said, like I really admire how you know
you've been through a lot, and you're really young and
you're a great mom, and but you're you have this
like gentleness about you that I just I just love

(54:42):
you so much.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
We've never met, but it's just so chill and I
feel like we can just sort of sit cross leg
and on some sort of like you know, like blumpy
couch and just kind of have a tea and talk
for hours.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
But don't be fooled, Oliver, I have mad anxiety.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Well, you and I, You and I can panic together
on the couch as well if you want.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
So funny, like, I get that a lot where people
are like, You're so like chill and grounded or whatever,
and I'm like, I have crazy anxiety.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Yeah, but it's interesting because sometimes that chill nature. Of course,
that is your true nature, but chill to me, I'm
pretty I am pretty chill. But I use my sort
of you know, voisterous maybe trying to be funny, yourself deprecating,
to sometimes mask how I might actually be feeling. I

(55:32):
don't want people to know that I'm hurting, you know,
in one way or another. When I had my crazy anxiety,
when I'm going through my bouts, I mean, I had
three kids, I was having to be a dad, I
was trying to be out in the street, I was
trying to fucking do shit for them, and all the
while like losing my mind, you know.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
Yeah, relatable. Yeah, anyway, continue saying.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
No I just feel like there's like the maternal instinct
in me that's like always mommy vibes, but like that
wants to like like like be with you and like
hug you and all of a sudden, and then there's
the like girlfriend part of me that wants to like
cuddle and watch some show.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
I can be both both there, it's both there.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I havings like but but uh, but also I have
a little inside baseball on you too, so like there's
also like, for instance, Jamie said, so so so just
to explain, Jamie is sweet baby Jamie, who is Riley's
our mutual friend, my bestie I'm assuming a very besty

(56:36):
friend of you as well for you, but also your stylist. Yes,
And but anyway, she was saying that how amazing it
was to watch you because you're after days of Joe's
and the six you've been singing a little bit more
a little bit and and for me, like I kind
of have to, like you know, get into it, and

(56:57):
I get excited and I get this energy going. And
Jamie was like, I don't know what it is, like
she has to go sing and then like she's just
talking and it's like it doesn't even hit her and
then she just goes out and she just sings, like
no anxiety.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
I have like a chip missing in my brain, which
might be the girlfriend experience thing too, where I don't
get embarrassed, Like I don't feel embarrassed. That's an emotion.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I was like, I have to now that is just
like I wish I had more of that. What an
amazing thing.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
But also there's the stakes are higher because you're actually
a good singer, and I'm like a good, very good singer.
So to me, it's kind of like funny and I
don't take it very seriously. But you're like a real singer,
you know. So I think that I don't like put
a lot of pressure on myself because I I'm not
really a singer, but I'm like an actor who's singing

(57:54):
a little here and there.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Oh, come on, you're a good singer, are you? Are
you gonna? Is there a Daisy Jones in the sixth
Tour or is that just not a real thing?

Speaker 6 (58:07):
Or every single day of my life people ask me
if there's a Daisy Jones in the sixth Tour, And
I hope one day there will maybe so hot it
will happen. But you know, maybe we'll something will happen
and we'll take it on the road and tour together.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
You should do it Europe.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Should we do it?

Speaker 6 (58:26):
Daisy Jones Kate Hudson Tour.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, I'm in. I'll open for Daisy Jones.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
No, we'll open for you.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
It's called the Daisy Chain Tour.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Wait.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
By the way, so much of Daisy Jones was inspired
by almost famous like.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Oh my well, when I watched it, I was like, oh,
I did have moments where I'm like, I feel like
I experience all of.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
The like the costume photos, like all of the wardrobe,
like every all the images were almost famous, like all
of those awesome.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Was it so fun? Did you have the best time?

Speaker 6 (59:00):
It was so fun?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (59:03):
So fun. A lot of the prep was fun because
you know when you like getting to I didn't sing
or play guitar anything, so getting to like learn a
new skill set like that is such a unique thing
to actors that it's like so fun that you get
to just like pretend to be a musician for a
few ones.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
It's so fun or whatever.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
A stripper, a sex worker.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
It's part of what it was. Like I always say
to people when it's like we didn't get into this
industry to do the same thing.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
Exactly, like we just wanted I were here.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Yeah, this has been amazing. It's just been fun.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
Thank you guys for having me. Yes, I love doing
podcasts with people I know or sort of know because
it's so much more fun.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
It just feels easier and it definitely creates more clickbaits.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
So yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, Kate has an ancient spa
ben easier, many time fun.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That would be the best. That would be the best
headline coming out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
All right, Well, hopefully I'll see you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Okay, nice to meet you, Thank you, Nice to meet
you too.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
All right By Guy