May 29, 2020 • 40 mins
On this week's episode of "Sibling Revelry," Kate and Oliver finally reunite in person to record! They talk about bringing their family back together and the precautions they're still taking - including Kate's face visor. Oliver shares why he is over Zoom school, and they read some emails from listeners.
Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna
Produced by Allison Bresnick
Editor: Josh Windisch
Music by Mark Hudson
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling.
You don't do that with your mouth revely. That's good, ollie,
(00:40):
this is so fun. We were reunited, renaded and so good,
realnded and a little nervous about this because you're you know,
(01:01):
you're like a like a loose, kind of free wheeling
type of guy, you know. I mean, you've taken this
thing very seriously. That's just the perception of me. My
whole family has this perception that I'm sort of like
in the streets, like running around naked, like spitting on people,
you know, I mean, are you Yes, But I'm not
(01:23):
like that. Yes'm I'm laid back and I'm a bit
free wheeling, but I'm not like, you know, shaking hands
and hugging and sort of going to dinner parties and
stuff like some people. We know, I don't all what
we're doing about me. No, no, no, not you, not you. Yeah, yeah,
you know who you are. You know who you are.
(01:44):
So no, but seriously, we have finally said now that
we're I mean our family, I mean we haven't had
like long, long fun looking at you and talking. I know, crazy,
but we have had sort of an under standing that
at some point our family needs to integrate. The kids
do need to like feel like they can play together.
(02:05):
We've all been really really good as things start opening up.
We're still being very careful, but we're kind of opening
up our family a little bit more, yep, and being
really transparent about the things that we're doing. But even
within our connectedness, we're being mindful. Like we're still not
hugging now, we're still wiping things now. Aaron and I
(02:26):
haven't had a normal makeout session. No, you know, I
haven't had mom yet. I have never hugged mom. I know.
Mom almost tried to hug me yesterday and I was like, oh,
Mommy is so Tactiles has been interesting because you know,
her instinct is to always touch and hug. So this
has been really hard for all of us, I know.
But no, we're starting to. Like. We had our first
(02:48):
family dinner last night. That was really fun. Yeah, it
was so fun. I knowe. It was so loud, though,
I have to say it was so loud that at
one point, like I forgot how loud our family is
and I was like, I can't hear, like I couldn't
hear anything that was happening. But it was agreed. But
(03:11):
it was great. It was like oh. It was this
sort of double edge of like, oh wow, this feels
like normalcy again. But at the same time, it's like,
can we wanna miss quiet? And quiet? I mean, Paul
comes in, he's looking at our vs. He's obsessed with
r vs, so the video, his RV video is playing,
but it was so loud, so loud, and he's like,
no one wants to okay, fine, He goes over to
(03:32):
the couch. Mom's like, honey, I've seen the RVs a
thousand times. But it was great. It was so great.
All the kids were together. And that's I think the
I think, and I think most families that are starting
to like integrate cousins a little bit more with siblings
and stuff. That's the hardest part is telling kids that
(03:53):
they need to keep distance, Like you're always like, uhhh,
a little close there, a little close. But I you know, look,
these are the steps we're taking right now and making
and I feel good about it. I do too. Yeah,
and feel comfortable, you know, but is it it's crazy though,
(04:15):
I mean it's crazy. Feel great. I feel great. I
feel super confident. As she's putting on her visor, Kate
got this. By the way, this thing is kind of awesome. Really,
why don't you explain? I haven't had to explain what
it is. I also feel like if I have to
go to the market. This is a visor. As you
can hear, there's sort of like an echoing happening. It's
(04:37):
a vis It's like a welder's mask. Really, it's it's
a face visor. It's really meant for SPF for you
for when you go to the beach. So women's faces
are completely or men's, but they're completely covers. You don't
get any sun. I bought one online because if I
ever have to go to a market or a store,
(04:58):
I thought I'd get myself a face mask, and so
that for my eyes and for my every pore on
my face. And I think it's great. It looks cool.
I kind of want to make some we should make.
You need one that you can see better out of.
You can see pretty good. I like that you can't
(05:20):
see me. That's the thing that's really fun about this. Okay, well,
let's talk about what. Let's talk about. I can't wait
for this whole Zoom school to be done with. I'm
so ready for really over. I kind of like it.
I don't. I don't want to deal with it anymore. Wilder.
And here's my thing with this, Okay, the essentials. I
agree with the math, the science, even ancient civilizations and history,
(05:43):
but when it comes to music and art and Pe
Wilder has to sing these songs till September ends, right
by green day. There's no reason for this right now. Yeah,
but it's good for him to, you know, not really,
We've got other things to sing us ang, sing out lost,
(06:08):
sing our love, sing it broad. I don't even know
if that's the but I I've been ignoring it. I've
been ignoring it. As a parent. I've been like, I'm
like music, forget it, dude, Pe forget it, dude. I
don't care. Okay, but these are actually I disagree with
you about these things. And here's why. But see, PE
for you doesn't matter, like Pe like that's what we
(06:31):
do all day long. It's like Pe all day. It's
not like they're learning music history. They're not learning about
you know, musicians, it's record, put headphones on, learn till
September ends, and sing it and then send it in.
Why for what reason? How is this advancing? Well? Maybe anything? Okay, well, okay,
(06:53):
good question. I'm going to play Devil's advocate. Okay, not
because I disagree with you, just for fun, for the
sake of our podcast. If I was a teacher, I
would say that it would be If I was a
music teacher, I would say that it would be actively uhh, yeah,
(07:16):
I mean you're I mean if I if I was
the music teacher, it would be giving the child an
opportunity to see if they felt connected to what it
is to learn and sing music. And so that would
be kind of what that is I know. But in
this time it doesn't make sense. Everyone's sort of trying
to figure it out, you know, like hearing kids like
(07:39):
write a song or something that would be more you know,
maybe if you could find an app and that's a
great idea, a melody, write a quarantine song, yeah, or
a poem that could be a song, a lyric I'm
down with that, right, or everybody writes one lyric in
the class. You write a lyric and then it goes
around great idea lyric, and then the teacher kind of
(08:02):
creates the song and then the music to it right,
and the whole class is written a quarantine song. Beautiful
great sings their line right right now. After this podcast,
I have to go with Wilder with headphones and be
like okay, okay, sing it and he's like, wake me up.
And I'm like, why what is this doing right now?
(08:23):
Why are we doing this? What if he connects to
green Day and it like inspires his whole life. What
if this one assignment inspires your son to become the
next It's not incarnation of punk rock. It's not gonna
that's not a reality. It's just not a reality. I
really like Billy Joe. He's a cool guy. But you
(08:44):
know about this till September ends. You know, they're singing
it for this sort of graduation or putting in sort
of making a compilation of some kind. You know that
song is about his father just death, I know. I
mean I don't know why they're singing yeah. Well, especially
because not to bringing this down, but you know, one
of Wilder's classmates passed away this year suddenly, which is
(09:07):
just so gnarly. That was a rough time, and the
parents were amazingly strong. When they finally, you know, came
and talked to everybody, it was just incredible people, really
incredible people. They felt a responsibility to the class, you know,
because they knew that everyone else was hurting. And it
was strange. It was the first time we saw them,
and they were the ones who were being strong for
(09:30):
everyone else, you know, because people were just devastated. I mean,
parents were devastated, kids were devastated. Yeah, of course, you know,
it was pretty crazy. You can't help it as a
parent think about tragedy. I mean, I know, for me,
like I think about that all the time and try
to like live with gratitude that just day by day
(09:51):
knowing that tragedy happens all over the world every day.
We're living it right now all the time, you know,
we're hearing about it all the time. It's actually one
of the things that I was talking about with Oprah.
All amazing people to mention, but I was saying, you know,
I've never been so inundated in death, whether it be
(10:15):
the tickers on your phone, whether it be the news.
We're constantly being shown all of this death the constant
reminder of our mortality, which of course is going to
bring up high levels of anxiety and fear, and you
realize that before we had technology. Even though technology has
(10:35):
its amazing there's amazing opportunities that come with technology, but
the negative of constantly being reminded of these horrible things
that are happening is that it's so it's so globally recognized,
meaning that even though these things have been happening all
the time all over the world everywhere, we weren't being
(10:57):
inundated with them, it wouldn't be thing that we would
see every single day of our turn off the news.
I can't I can't see. I can't look at it.
You look at like a time like now when we
are there's so much fear. I just talked to someone
on the phone today handling like very depressed, doesn't doesn't
(11:18):
know how to find light in this situation at all.
It's all darkness, And you realize like, oh, okay, like
how do we how do we hold that person in
a place so that they feel how secure and feel
feel better about you know, it's hard. It's hard to
(11:42):
change someone's mind. Really, I mean yeah, I mean I
just I just want to get away. Sometimes I'm tired
of the monotony. I want to go into the mountains
and just like sort of like forage. I don't know
what i'd be eating because I don't know forge. I
don't know what, but berries or poison or not. So
it might last days, but at least it's a good
(12:05):
three to five days. It's so funny when people say, like,
who would you go? It's like if I if I
know I'm going to die in the woods, I'm going
with you, right, not okay? If I know I could
have a chance of survival, like I'm taking Wyatt, I
don't know. I think I might make it over. Why
(12:30):
I'm better at providing food. Why it will like make
a guitar if you want to music. I can do food, yeah,
but I need to do fishing. Yeah, but I we
can fish. No, you can't get Wyatt. Not. First of all,
our poles would be beautiful. We make beautiful fishing. But
it would take seven seven weeks. And would know it
(12:52):
wouldn't take seven weeks. It would take like a week
and we'd be like very zend out No, no, like you,
I'd be like Oliver, It's okay, I can just see
it where like it's raining, it's like torrential rain and
you're just having a full pan And I'm sitting out
there and I'm holding you, going, Oliver, We're gonna make it.
(13:15):
I think, no, were not. My survival instinct might kick in.
I feel like if I'm in a city situation where
I have to survive, that's when I'd lose my mind.
You know, Oh if I was, you know, like I
had to. I'm a flight guy. This is what I'm saying.
I'm not a fight guy. I think I'm a flight guy.
(13:37):
You know, I'm gonna run. Okay, I'm just gonna run.
I'm trying to think of what's attachment method? That what attachment?
I mean, it's avoidant, right, I don't want to go
through the danger. I'm gonna run from it. You know.
It's like, why am I gonna go and get so funny?
I'm the opposite. I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna run.
(13:58):
We get my kids, right. Do you know how I
know that I'm the opposite. One time I was in
a house alone and I heard something and I got
so scared, and I was so scared that I was
so mad that I went nuts and I went and
I took a bat and I started screaming at the house.
I do that too, and I was like, basically like,
(14:20):
come fucking show your SIGs, you know, show your fucking face.
And I was like whoa. And then I realized there
was nobody in the house. Of course I do that too,
and I was like, wow. My instinct was to fight. Yes,
but if I had an exit, I do that. But
if I had an exit, see in my bedroom, I
(14:42):
have no choice but to go there and scream. Oh
fuck girl. Yeah, because I don't have a choice because
I can't get out anywhere. That's not true. I know
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(15:02):
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(15:23):
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(17:13):
is clearly because we're living amongst I mean, the cover
of the New York Times one hundred thousand people. It's
just that there's so much that we are aware of
and that you know, with something like COVID, clearly that
we should be continuously aware of and understand. I'm more saying,
like layered on top of all of this, just there's
(17:33):
so it can be overwhelming, So it can lead to
a lot of anxiety, It can lead to a lot
of fear and people feeling out of body. And the
question is is how do we sort of feel a
sense some sense of calm. How do we get ourselves
to feel a little bit of ease so that we
(17:54):
can so honestly just be healthy, so that our mental
health is strong. You touched upon it the too. It's
like changing the narrative as well. Yeah, we're in this situation, right,
you know, we've been in it for a minute now,
but it is time to maybe sort of open your
mind up and change sort of how you're thinking and feeling.
And maybe now we're able to go take a walk
outside and look up, you know what I mean, look
(18:15):
at the birds, like the tree tops. Just change your perspective.
You know, Mom's doing this with the sort of the
laugh challenge right too, you know, which is a fun
I love that. I love it too, and so great
people do really respond to understanding that these things aren't
about taking things lightly. It's actually about how we wire
(18:35):
our brain. So just because you're laughing doesn't mean that
this is light or that you're not you know, don't
you know that you're sort of ignoring the seriousness of
these things. Actually creating laughter is a healing mechanism. It
speaks to our brain. It brings the good stuff to
our brain to allow our immune systems to build. So
(18:58):
it's nice to be able to inform people that you know,
you can laugh and it will heal. And it doesn't
mean that there aren't going to be sad days. There
aren't going to be difficult days. It isn't you know,
it's not it's not minimizing the seriousness. Sure, of course
not well, I mean you say that, I mean, but
but I think that a lot of people, especially those
(19:20):
that are suffering, will feel that way and understandably. So
you know, we're we're we are you know, what is
it fifteen percent unemployment rate, we're heading towards and is
now probably I haven't looked today, but but but we're
heading towards a true economic crisis. People are truly suffering,
(19:44):
and I think that there's a way that a lot
of times when some people, especially celebrities or people you
know that you know that that people can look at
that and kind of think that it's ignorant or think
that it's minimizing. But when you really understand the things
that we the small thing we can do and share
with people, that these aren't it's not about not recognizing
(20:07):
those things, that these things can be helpful to your
mental health. Maybe we'll bring a different focus on it.
You know, there's a lot which I again I think
there's a responsibility to understanding this where there's a lot
of people that go, yeah, well, what would you know?
You know sure, because you live a life of luck
(20:27):
and of privilege, and that is correct, right, But that
is not to say that there aren't things that you
can utilize your platform for to share that would hopefully
bring people some levity in a time like this, or
some knowledge and that that can maybe collectively help someone's
(20:50):
mental state. Yeah, well it's true, and yes, luck and privilege,
but and that that takes care of sort of the
tangibles of your life life, but that doesn't account for
sort of emotional stability. It doesn't matter how much money
or how much privilege you have, you can be emotion
Your emotions are going to take you in different places.
(21:10):
Just because someone might have a house and it's it's
and they're they're okay with their job and they've got
money in the bank, something like this, an epidemic like
this could mess with their minds, with their mental health. Yeah,
mental health doesn't discriminate, it does not in any way.
But but but but but there is a point which
is you wouldn't know what it's like to live below
(21:33):
the poverty line and to experience then when you're getting
paid minimum wage, when your children are not out of school,
and now you cannot make your rent because you have
been fired from your job. That is a that is
a level of hopelessness that you cannot relate to, that
I cannot relate to, that is happening all across our country.
(21:56):
So there is a responsibility. I feel this to be
sensit's and understand why a lot of times there's a
lot of anger towards ideas of levity or let's just
let's just try to see the good in this or
the silver lining in this. I can understand how so
many millions of people are like, fuck your silver lining.
(22:17):
I'm trying to put food on my table right whatever
I can do to educate to hopefully either you know,
one thing I'm really interested in is feeding. So like
we're being the ambassador for the World Food Program, Like
we're about to go into a a famine of biblical proportions.
(22:38):
People don't even understand this. A quarter of a billion
people will die of hunger because of COVID that now
we were looking at globally, globally, so all of these things,
like everything we can do to kind of recognize the
severity of it at the same time support it and
then also support people mental health. Know that there's ways
(23:02):
that we can kind of hold each other and all
feel connected in this in some way, but be sensitive
to how we're doing it. You know, we all have
this ability to use a platform to share with people,
like your platform. For instance, let's talk about what you do.
No but but seriously, but here there's a thing like
(23:26):
you make people so happy because you're nuts and you're funny,
and you're just like out there and you say ridiculous
things and you just seemingly don't care even though I
know you do deep down care about all kinds of things.
But sure you you you know what you don't do.
It's interesting you don't really get out in front of
(23:47):
the things that you care about so much. I mean,
you have a deep passion for children and the children's hospital.
Oh yeah, you have so many things. Right. We come
from a family that's like we don't I mean, the
self serving aspect of charity work is something we try
very hard not to publicize, Like we want to do
good and aren't very interested in like publicizing that we're
(24:08):
passionate about these things. Right, almost sometimes to a fault,
because you could be utilized in your platform to share
more about that goofy crazy guy, like what you do
to give children that feeling of like I sprinkle it in.
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(27:03):
I love your show. I've listened to every episode since
it first started. I laugh every time on the intro
when Kate says, ew, don't make that face, which I
do too, by the way, makes me laugh every single time.
I have loved learning more about your real personalities, like
how Kate seems so down to earth and strict with
her kids, and every once in a while I hear
(27:23):
your mom's laugh when she laughs. I watched laughing when
I was little, because those were the days you watched
whatever your parents watched. And Oliver, you were so honest
about your opinions when you talked about Kobe Bryant and
just shared your honest feelings like what T like, WTF?
This makes no sense. I also laugh when you ask
siblings if they have a resentment to their siblings success,
(27:44):
and Kate always says, no, Allie, it's just you. I
think you're hilarious. And you don't give yourself enough credit
for your own successes. Oh everyone says that, yeah, because
but I know, but there's a self deprecating part of me,
like there is as it's part stick as well, Like
(28:04):
I definitely am grateful for my successes. I know I've
been extremely successful. I know I'm one of the more
talented people in the world. I get, I know it all,
but it's part of my stick. But I do, I
do again. Okay, she's all insecurity, all right, Hell, okay,
(28:26):
let me finish anyway. I have decided to email because
I haven't had time to listen to these past few weeks.
I'm a nurse at an on cologny I am a
nurse at an oncology clinic. I'm still going to work.
We are seeing more patients become COVID positive, which means
they have to delay their chemotherapy because they cannot come
to the clinic and they're too sick and it's too risky.
(28:48):
I have two teenagers at home that are doing online
schooling while schools are closed. My youngest girl, my youngest
has high functioning autism. You would never know if you
saw her, but she has social anxiety and she's loving
them learning. My older daughter is a senior in high school.
I feel so bad for her. So far the prom, graduation,
and the senior activities are postponed. And if senior is
(29:09):
supposed to be so much fun and she's stuck at home,
unable to be with her friends, she is pretty miserable
and her beautiful banana yellow prom dress is just hanging up.
My mother is seventy eight and lives alone. Last week,
we drove by and had her stand out on her
balcony so we could wave and say hi from the car.
So as COVID lingers on, real life is still happening,
(29:30):
I keep looking at the positives because of COVID. My
mom learned how to FaceTime on an iPad she never
used before. My teens are forced to spend time with us,
which has been nice. My siblings and cousins all meet
up via zoom and it was quite comical. Traffic has
been next to nothing. The community is coming together to
support for one another, and I feel like our governor
(29:51):
is doing an amazing job. I'm temporarily going to take
a job, a second job, to triage people with COVID
symptoms to help them get the care they need. I
want to help them more wherever I can. I am
thankful for your podcast because it gives me a laugh
when I need it, and also appreciate Kate and all
of her sharing their true feelings and opinions. Stay safe
(30:11):
and keep being real with gratitude. Erin great name, oh
my wife's name. That email makes me emotional because, well,
for a number of reasons. One clearly, you you know,
healthcare workers love what they do. They feel this just
(30:32):
need and desire to have to help. And I just
find people like that to be really admirable. So I
really admire that, Aaron. And then to be a mother
and to be managing all of these things feels I understand,
you know, we all understand that, you know, But then
to add on top of that what you're doing is
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just it's a great, well rounded email. It's because it's funny,
and she's also again we talked about silver linings, but
you know she's talking about how the families coming together,
how there are these more the more of these zoom calls.
You know, there's a connectivity that's happening that we I
got very emotional with the yellow prompt because you think
about kids, especially at that age, you know, your teenage years,
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everything feels so immediate and like it's it's just the
end of the world, you know, and it's a very
hard time to be a teenager. So I feel that
sort of that they're not being given their celebratory moments.
I know, we can always say, well, you know what,
there's a lot of worse things going on in the world,
(31:38):
and you can skip your prom and graduation, but it
means a lot of these kids, you know what I mean, right, Yes,
I know that these things are horrible, but it's not
selfish to sort of say and thank god, I can't
believe I'm not going to have my prominence bummer. Right, Yeah,
that's of course. I know. They're not so fun. I know,
oh my god, I know. You know in The Bachelor,
(32:01):
you know, in The Bachelor, there's moments where like girls
will be like, I never had a prom, and I'm like, yeah,
I forget what Bachelor it was. But then they like
gave her a prom or something. He gave her a prom. Yeah,
maybe it wasn't the Badger anyway, but you see that
a lot like girls or guys you didn't get to
go to prom. I know, and that'll be this generation
of seniors. By the way, for some people, it's gonna
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be like, oh fuck, thank god, there's no prom I mean,
for real, there's gonna be a whole group of kids
who are like, holy shit, thank god I didn't have
a date anyway, I was too scared to ask her.
Now I'm off the hook. I loved that email. Thank you, Aaron.
Here we go Number two. Every sibling rivalry begins the
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exact moment you lose your position on the throne as
being an only child. Most siblings grow out of it.
Then there's our story. My brother and I are four
years apart, almost to the day, missing it by mere hours.
So needless to say, my long standing adoration was easily
rocked by his presence the day before my birthday, and that,
(33:07):
my friends, is when the torch was lit, igniting our rivalry.
I tried to be the proud big sister and probably
had the T shirt that said so, But in all actuality,
I just really wanted a kitten for my birthday. So
since my parental units didn't get me one, I figured
I would take it about myself to get my own,
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which meant at the ripe old age of four and
a half, I decided to sell my parents offspring to
the next door neighbor for a quarter and a pack
of juicy fruit. When the neighbor girl came to collect
the little tormentor, it was obvious that the mother figure
wasn't about to let it go, so at that point,
the only thing left to do was to shove the
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entire pack of juicy fruit in my mouth and hand
back over the quarter. After figuring out that I couldn't
sell him on the black market, I tried a different approach.
Let's try, I don't know, maybe getting along. What could
go wrong? We decided to join forces and act like
normal siblings, but that was cut short when our mom
came home early from work found out that we were
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running a neighborhood gambling ring out of our garage at
the ripe ages of eleven and seven. That little camaraderie
cost us two weeks of house arrest during the summer.
We decided it would be in our best interest to
go back to our normal behavior with each other now
flashing forward because the statue of limitations is not up
when it comes to our mom, and there's a lot
(34:30):
for us to be still grounded for during our high
school and college years, but not to disappoint our most
famous sibling rivalry competition to date. As a prelude, our
mom sent us to private Catholic schools our entire life,
even down to an all boys and all girls Catholic
high school. For the past twenty plus years, we have
been entertaining friends and family with our yearly Christmas religious
(34:52):
gag gifts, and so far it has been very heated race,
a very heated race with Pope on a rope, the
Jesus Christ singing Hallelujah, wallet, none bowling set with its
own hell ball of fire, how to Dance like Jesus' book,
and of course my favorite, the one I had specially
made just to document or monumental occasion of being siblings.
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With all that being said, I truly enjoy your podcast,
knowing that I'm not alone and secretly wanting to get
back on that throne. Keep up the amazing work, Stay
safe and healthy From Amy aka my Mom's favorite child,
no matter what she says. Did you feel that Amy's
submission was really relatable to you? Oh? Yeah, I mean extremely.
(35:39):
I don't ever, I don't really ever remember feeling anger,
you know, towards you. What, No, not really like feeling it.
You know, you just got in my way. Oh Jesus,
you just got in my way, you know. But all
these pictures that I'm finding of us, I'm hugging you,
(35:59):
And so maybe I was better than I thought. Maybe
you're just remembering all the bad things, you know, but
the good things. There are more good things than bad things.
But you're just remembering all the bad things. Okay, this
is from Kathleen. I just wanted to say I love
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your podcast, and I'm so grateful for you too, for
doing what you're doing. I work in healthcare. I am
an addictions therapist at a hospital in West Virginia, and
while I didn't stockpile toilet paper, I did hoard your episodes.
So I've been listening to them on my drive to
and from work. If I could give some acknowledgment to
my patients. Addiction is such an isolating disease, and people
(36:44):
in recovery truly benefit from the social connection of others,
and they don't get to have that right now. So
I've been recommending my people's listen to your podcast because
for me, when I'm listening to it, it feels like
I'm a part of this intimate dialogue with family, and
I feel connected to you. So again, I'm so grateful
to you for who you are and what you do
for others. Oh, I just want to cry every time.
(37:09):
I literally like, that's amazing. We should do something on addiction.
We should do it. Yeah, yeah, especially because it's so
I mean, it's I mean when you when you work
in the arts, you're around it so much, you know,
And and I've lost a lot of friends to addiction,
and I have had a lot of friends that have
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recovered and suffered and recovered and wow, thank you, thank you.
But I also it's why we're so pulled to this.
Initially it was really about all over and I wanting
to just do something fun and spend time together. It's
taken on a different life, which has been so fun.
And if you can, if we can sort of touch people,
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you know, even whether it be addiction or isolation or
anyone even bringing up Hoffman. You know, people have been
to Hoffman now and I've gotten twelve to fifteen letters
from people at Hoffman. You know, because at the end
you write, you know, you have an opportunity to write
a letter to whoever you want to and I've gotten
(38:12):
I think fifteen of them. They've heard about it on
the show. From my experience, they went to Hoffman and
you know, they're like, this has changed my life, and
so it's how amazing is amazing for me? I've been
I cry at each one I read. I'm like, this
is so cool. I feel like so cool us telling stories.
Playing characters is a blast, right, and you can reach
(38:35):
people through characters every once in a while there's a
character that people really relate to, right, But when you
can actually sort of talk to people about like the
things that could make them feel good in their life
and it actually has some kind of impact, there's nothing
more rewarding to me than like hearing her say that.
(38:56):
You know, it just makes me so happy that that's it.
I mean, if it just touched Kathleen, then I'm totally
I'm totally happy, grateful. We want to keep doing these
kinds of things, and I know we talked about it
many many podcasts ago I was making there's a New
Year's Eve thing, but it's about just being more charitable
with my time, not necessarily my my pocketbook. You know,
(39:18):
it feels good and it may be selfless. I don't know,
it's it's both. It can they think it can work
both ways. But when you get responses like this, or
when I read those letters from Hoffmann, it makes me
just want to keep doing more of that. I know, well,
this was this was way to wrap it up. This
is so fun. Oh my god, this is a great
(39:39):
like Reunited, I believe. Are you serious right now? Yeah,
we got to wrap it up just like that. We
did it great. I love it. I love you, I
love you too. Sibling Revelry is executive groups by Kate Hudson,
Olira Hudson and Simsarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnank. Editor
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is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling.
You don't do that with your mouth revely. That's good, ollie,
(00:40):
this is so fun. We were reunited, renaded and so good,
realnded and a little nervous about this because you're you know,
(01:01):
you're like a like a loose, kind of free wheeling
type of guy, you know. I mean, you've taken this
thing very seriously. That's just the perception of me. My
whole family has this perception that I'm sort of like
in the streets, like running around naked, like spitting on people,
you know, I mean, are you Yes, But I'm not
(01:23):
like that. Yes'm I'm laid back and I'm a bit
free wheeling, but I'm not like, you know, shaking hands
and hugging and sort of going to dinner parties and
stuff like some people. We know, I don't all what
we're doing about me. No, no, no, not you, not you. Yeah, yeah,
you know who you are. You know who you are.
(01:44):
So no, but seriously, we have finally said now that
we're I mean our family, I mean we haven't had
like long, long fun looking at you and talking. I know, crazy,
but we have had sort of an under standing that
at some point our family needs to integrate. The kids
do need to like feel like they can play together.
(02:05):
We've all been really really good as things start opening up.
We're still being very careful, but we're kind of opening
up our family a little bit more, yep, and being
really transparent about the things that we're doing. But even
within our connectedness, we're being mindful. Like we're still not
hugging now, we're still wiping things now. Aaron and I
(02:26):
haven't had a normal makeout session. No, you know, I
haven't had mom yet. I have never hugged mom. I know.
Mom almost tried to hug me yesterday and I was like, oh,
Mommy is so Tactiles has been interesting because you know,
her instinct is to always touch and hug. So this
has been really hard for all of us, I know.
But no, we're starting to. Like. We had our first
(02:48):
family dinner last night. That was really fun. Yeah, it
was so fun. I knowe. It was so loud, though,
I have to say it was so loud that at
one point, like I forgot how loud our family is
and I was like, I can't hear, like I couldn't
hear anything that was happening. But it was agreed. But
(03:11):
it was great. It was like oh. It was this
sort of double edge of like, oh wow, this feels
like normalcy again. But at the same time, it's like,
can we wanna miss quiet? And quiet? I mean, Paul
comes in, he's looking at our vs. He's obsessed with
r vs, so the video, his RV video is playing,
but it was so loud, so loud, and he's like,
no one wants to okay, fine, He goes over to
(03:32):
the couch. Mom's like, honey, I've seen the RVs a
thousand times. But it was great. It was so great.
All the kids were together. And that's I think the
I think, and I think most families that are starting
to like integrate cousins a little bit more with siblings
and stuff. That's the hardest part is telling kids that
(03:53):
they need to keep distance, Like you're always like, uhhh,
a little close there, a little close. But I you know, look,
these are the steps we're taking right now and making
and I feel good about it. I do too. Yeah,
and feel comfortable, you know, but is it it's crazy though,
(04:15):
I mean it's crazy. Feel great. I feel great. I
feel super confident. As she's putting on her visor, Kate
got this. By the way, this thing is kind of awesome. Really,
why don't you explain? I haven't had to explain what
it is. I also feel like if I have to
go to the market. This is a visor. As you
can hear, there's sort of like an echoing happening. It's
(04:37):
a vis It's like a welder's mask. Really, it's it's
a face visor. It's really meant for SPF for you
for when you go to the beach. So women's faces
are completely or men's, but they're completely covers. You don't
get any sun. I bought one online because if I
ever have to go to a market or a store,
(04:58):
I thought I'd get myself a face mask, and so
that for my eyes and for my every pore on
my face. And I think it's great. It looks cool.
I kind of want to make some we should make.
You need one that you can see better out of.
You can see pretty good. I like that you can't
(05:20):
see me. That's the thing that's really fun about this. Okay, well,
let's talk about what. Let's talk about. I can't wait
for this whole Zoom school to be done with. I'm
so ready for really over. I kind of like it.
I don't. I don't want to deal with it anymore. Wilder.
And here's my thing with this, Okay, the essentials. I
agree with the math, the science, even ancient civilizations and history,
(05:43):
but when it comes to music and art and Pe
Wilder has to sing these songs till September ends, right
by green day. There's no reason for this right now. Yeah,
but it's good for him to, you know, not really,
We've got other things to sing us ang, sing out lost,
(06:08):
sing our love, sing it broad. I don't even know
if that's the but I I've been ignoring it. I've
been ignoring it. As a parent. I've been like, I'm
like music, forget it, dude, Pe forget it, dude. I
don't care. Okay, but these are actually I disagree with
you about these things. And here's why. But see, PE
for you doesn't matter, like Pe like that's what we
(06:31):
do all day long. It's like Pe all day. It's
not like they're learning music history. They're not learning about
you know, musicians, it's record, put headphones on, learn till
September ends, and sing it and then send it in.
Why for what reason? How is this advancing? Well? Maybe anything? Okay, well, okay,
(06:53):
good question. I'm going to play Devil's advocate. Okay, not
because I disagree with you, just for fun, for the
sake of our podcast. If I was a teacher, I
would say that it would be If I was a
music teacher, I would say that it would be actively uhh, yeah,
(07:16):
I mean you're I mean if I if I was
the music teacher, it would be giving the child an
opportunity to see if they felt connected to what it
is to learn and sing music. And so that would
be kind of what that is I know. But in
this time it doesn't make sense. Everyone's sort of trying
to figure it out, you know, like hearing kids like
(07:39):
write a song or something that would be more you know,
maybe if you could find an app and that's a
great idea, a melody, write a quarantine song, yeah, or
a poem that could be a song, a lyric I'm
down with that, right, or everybody writes one lyric in
the class. You write a lyric and then it goes
around great idea lyric, and then the teacher kind of
(08:02):
creates the song and then the music to it right,
and the whole class is written a quarantine song. Beautiful
great sings their line right right now. After this podcast,
I have to go with Wilder with headphones and be
like okay, okay, sing it and he's like, wake me up.
And I'm like, why what is this doing right now?
(08:23):
Why are we doing this? What if he connects to
green Day and it like inspires his whole life. What
if this one assignment inspires your son to become the
next It's not incarnation of punk rock. It's not gonna
that's not a reality. It's just not a reality. I
really like Billy Joe. He's a cool guy. But you
(08:44):
know about this till September ends. You know, they're singing
it for this sort of graduation or putting in sort
of making a compilation of some kind. You know that
song is about his father just death, I know. I
mean I don't know why they're singing yeah. Well, especially
because not to bringing this down, but you know, one
of Wilder's classmates passed away this year suddenly, which is
(09:07):
just so gnarly. That was a rough time, and the
parents were amazingly strong. When they finally, you know, came
and talked to everybody, it was just incredible people, really
incredible people. They felt a responsibility to the class, you know,
because they knew that everyone else was hurting. And it
was strange. It was the first time we saw them,
and they were the ones who were being strong for
(09:30):
everyone else, you know, because people were just devastated. I mean,
parents were devastated, kids were devastated. Yeah, of course, you know,
it was pretty crazy. You can't help it as a
parent think about tragedy. I mean, I know, for me,
like I think about that all the time and try
to like live with gratitude that just day by day
(09:51):
knowing that tragedy happens all over the world every day.
We're living it right now all the time, you know,
we're hearing about it all the time. It's actually one
of the things that I was talking about with Oprah.
All amazing people to mention, but I was saying, you know,
I've never been so inundated in death, whether it be
(10:15):
the tickers on your phone, whether it be the news.
We're constantly being shown all of this death the constant
reminder of our mortality, which of course is going to
bring up high levels of anxiety and fear, and you
realize that before we had technology. Even though technology has
(10:35):
its amazing there's amazing opportunities that come with technology, but
the negative of constantly being reminded of these horrible things
that are happening is that it's so it's so globally recognized,
meaning that even though these things have been happening all
the time all over the world everywhere, we weren't being
(10:57):
inundated with them, it wouldn't be thing that we would
see every single day of our turn off the news.
I can't I can't see. I can't look at it.
You look at like a time like now when we
are there's so much fear. I just talked to someone
on the phone today handling like very depressed, doesn't doesn't
(11:18):
know how to find light in this situation at all.
It's all darkness, And you realize like, oh, okay, like
how do we how do we hold that person in
a place so that they feel how secure and feel
feel better about you know, it's hard. It's hard to
(11:42):
change someone's mind. Really, I mean yeah, I mean I
just I just want to get away. Sometimes I'm tired
of the monotony. I want to go into the mountains
and just like sort of like forage. I don't know
what i'd be eating because I don't know forge. I
don't know what, but berries or poison or not. So
it might last days, but at least it's a good
(12:05):
three to five days. It's so funny when people say, like,
who would you go? It's like if I if I
know I'm going to die in the woods, I'm going
with you, right, not okay? If I know I could
have a chance of survival, like I'm taking Wyatt, I
don't know. I think I might make it over. Why
(12:30):
I'm better at providing food. Why it will like make
a guitar if you want to music. I can do food, yeah,
but I need to do fishing. Yeah, but I we
can fish. No, you can't get Wyatt. Not. First of all,
our poles would be beautiful. We make beautiful fishing. But
it would take seven seven weeks. And would know it
(12:52):
wouldn't take seven weeks. It would take like a week
and we'd be like very zend out No, no, like you,
I'd be like Oliver, It's okay, I can just see
it where like it's raining, it's like torrential rain and
you're just having a full pan And I'm sitting out
there and I'm holding you, going, Oliver, We're gonna make it.
(13:15):
I think, no, were not. My survival instinct might kick in.
I feel like if I'm in a city situation where
I have to survive, that's when I'd lose my mind.
You know, Oh if I was, you know, like I
had to. I'm a flight guy. This is what I'm saying.
I'm not a fight guy. I think I'm a flight guy.
(13:37):
You know, I'm gonna run. Okay, I'm just gonna run.
I'm trying to think of what's attachment method? That what attachment?
I mean, it's avoidant, right, I don't want to go
through the danger. I'm gonna run from it. You know.
It's like, why am I gonna go and get so funny?
I'm the opposite. I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna run.
(13:58):
We get my kids, right. Do you know how I
know that I'm the opposite. One time I was in
a house alone and I heard something and I got
so scared, and I was so scared that I was
so mad that I went nuts and I went and
I took a bat and I started screaming at the house.
I do that too, and I was like, basically like,
(14:20):
come fucking show your SIGs, you know, show your fucking face.
And I was like whoa. And then I realized there
was nobody in the house. Of course I do that too,
and I was like, wow. My instinct was to fight. Yes,
but if I had an exit, I do that. But
if I had an exit, see in my bedroom, I
(14:42):
have no choice but to go there and scream. Oh
fuck girl. Yeah, because I don't have a choice because
I can't get out anywhere. That's not true. I know
how to get out of every possible exit in your
house everywhere I go. So when I walk into a place,
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(15:23):
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I love that. Their whole their whole thing is that
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is clearly because we're living amongst I mean, the cover
of the New York Times one hundred thousand people. It's
just that there's so much that we are aware of
and that you know, with something like COVID, clearly that
we should be continuously aware of and understand. I'm more saying,
like layered on top of all of this, just there's
(17:33):
so it can be overwhelming, So it can lead to
a lot of anxiety, It can lead to a lot
of fear and people feeling out of body. And the
question is is how do we sort of feel a
sense some sense of calm. How do we get ourselves
to feel a little bit of ease so that we
(17:54):
can so honestly just be healthy, so that our mental
health is strong. You touched upon it the too. It's
like changing the narrative as well. Yeah, we're in this situation, right,
you know, we've been in it for a minute now,
but it is time to maybe sort of open your
mind up and change sort of how you're thinking and feeling.
And maybe now we're able to go take a walk
outside and look up, you know what I mean, look
(18:15):
at the birds, like the tree tops. Just change your perspective.
You know, Mom's doing this with the sort of the
laugh challenge right too, you know, which is a fun
I love that. I love it too, and so great
people do really respond to understanding that these things aren't
about taking things lightly. It's actually about how we wire
(18:35):
our brain. So just because you're laughing doesn't mean that
this is light or that you're not you know, don't
you know that you're sort of ignoring the seriousness of
these things. Actually creating laughter is a healing mechanism. It
speaks to our brain. It brings the good stuff to
our brain to allow our immune systems to build. So
(18:58):
it's nice to be able to inform people that you know,
you can laugh and it will heal. And it doesn't
mean that there aren't going to be sad days. There
aren't going to be difficult days. It isn't you know,
it's not it's not minimizing the seriousness. Sure, of course
not well, I mean you say that, I mean, but
but I think that a lot of people, especially those
(19:20):
that are suffering, will feel that way and understandably. So
you know, we're we're we are you know, what is
it fifteen percent unemployment rate, we're heading towards and is
now probably I haven't looked today, but but but we're
heading towards a true economic crisis. People are truly suffering,
(19:44):
and I think that there's a way that a lot
of times when some people, especially celebrities or people you
know that you know that that people can look at
that and kind of think that it's ignorant or think
that it's minimizing. But when you really understand the things
that we the small thing we can do and share
with people, that these aren't it's not about not recognizing
(20:07):
those things, that these things can be helpful to your
mental health. Maybe we'll bring a different focus on it.
You know, there's a lot which I again I think
there's a responsibility to understanding this where there's a lot
of people that go, yeah, well, what would you know?
You know sure, because you live a life of luck
(20:27):
and of privilege, and that is correct, right, But that
is not to say that there aren't things that you
can utilize your platform for to share that would hopefully
bring people some levity in a time like this, or
some knowledge and that that can maybe collectively help someone's
(20:50):
mental state. Yeah, well it's true, and yes, luck and privilege,
but and that that takes care of sort of the
tangibles of your life life, but that doesn't account for
sort of emotional stability. It doesn't matter how much money
or how much privilege you have, you can be emotion
Your emotions are going to take you in different places.
(21:10):
Just because someone might have a house and it's it's
and they're they're okay with their job and they've got
money in the bank, something like this, an epidemic like
this could mess with their minds, with their mental health. Yeah,
mental health doesn't discriminate, it does not in any way.
But but but but but there is a point which
is you wouldn't know what it's like to live below
(21:33):
the poverty line and to experience then when you're getting
paid minimum wage, when your children are not out of school,
and now you cannot make your rent because you have
been fired from your job. That is a that is
a level of hopelessness that you cannot relate to, that
I cannot relate to, that is happening all across our country.
(21:56):
So there is a responsibility. I feel this to be
sensit's and understand why a lot of times there's a
lot of anger towards ideas of levity or let's just
let's just try to see the good in this or
the silver lining in this. I can understand how so
many millions of people are like, fuck your silver lining.
(22:17):
I'm trying to put food on my table right whatever
I can do to educate to hopefully either you know,
one thing I'm really interested in is feeding. So like
we're being the ambassador for the World Food Program, Like
we're about to go into a a famine of biblical proportions.
(22:38):
People don't even understand this. A quarter of a billion
people will die of hunger because of COVID that now
we were looking at globally, globally, so all of these things,
like everything we can do to kind of recognize the
severity of it at the same time support it and
then also support people mental health. Know that there's ways
(23:02):
that we can kind of hold each other and all
feel connected in this in some way, but be sensitive
to how we're doing it. You know, we all have
this ability to use a platform to share with people,
like your platform. For instance, let's talk about what you do.
No but but seriously, but here there's a thing like
(23:26):
you make people so happy because you're nuts and you're funny,
and you're just like out there and you say ridiculous
things and you just seemingly don't care even though I
know you do deep down care about all kinds of things.
But sure you you you know what you don't do.
It's interesting you don't really get out in front of
(23:47):
the things that you care about so much. I mean,
you have a deep passion for children and the children's hospital.
Oh yeah, you have so many things. Right. We come
from a family that's like we don't I mean, the
self serving aspect of charity work is something we try
very hard not to publicize, Like we want to do
good and aren't very interested in like publicizing that we're
(24:08):
passionate about these things. Right, almost sometimes to a fault,
because you could be utilized in your platform to share
more about that goofy crazy guy, like what you do
to give children that feeling of like I sprinkle it in.
I'm just saying no, but I know what you mean.
(24:29):
I know what you mean. But yeah, yeah, you sleep
on this. I do sleep on this, my helix, mattress,
my LUs midnight, your lux midnight that you took a quiz.
(24:49):
I took a quiz because you did this quiz. Yes, yes,
oh cool. Well I had to include her because I
had to sort of say, well, how do you like
to sleep? And you sort of put these different you know,
answers whether you sleep on your side or you know,
if you're a back sleeper, And did you actually buy
the one that they said that you should. I did. Yeah,
(25:11):
I love it. And it's like sleeping It's like sleeping
in heaven without the death part. Oh godd yeah. I
mean I've been on my mattress for fifteen plus years,
and until I put my helix in, I didn't realize
how much I actually needed a new mattress. What we
sleep on really affects how we sleep. Well. Yeah, but
(25:32):
by the way, we as Americans do not get enough sleep.
That's just a fact now, you know. We don't sleep enough.
I don't sleep. I want to if I could go
to bed at seven thirty every now, I get into
bed and I would read on a Helix and I
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(26:36):
because it was it was fun. You watch this thing
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(27:03):
I love your show. I've listened to every episode since
it first started. I laugh every time on the intro
when Kate says, ew, don't make that face, which I
do too, by the way, makes me laugh every single time.
I have loved learning more about your real personalities, like
how Kate seems so down to earth and strict with
her kids, and every once in a while I hear
(27:23):
your mom's laugh when she laughs. I watched laughing when
I was little, because those were the days you watched
whatever your parents watched. And Oliver, you were so honest
about your opinions when you talked about Kobe Bryant and
just shared your honest feelings like what T like, WTF?
This makes no sense. I also laugh when you ask
siblings if they have a resentment to their siblings success,
(27:44):
and Kate always says, no, Allie, it's just you. I
think you're hilarious. And you don't give yourself enough credit
for your own successes. Oh everyone says that, yeah, because
but I know, but there's a self deprecating part of me,
like there is as it's part stick as well, Like
(28:04):
I definitely am grateful for my successes. I know I've
been extremely successful. I know I'm one of the more
talented people in the world. I get, I know it all,
but it's part of my stick. But I do, I
do again. Okay, she's all insecurity, all right, Hell, okay,
(28:26):
let me finish anyway. I have decided to email because
I haven't had time to listen to these past few weeks.
I'm a nurse at an on cologny I am a
nurse at an oncology clinic. I'm still going to work.
We are seeing more patients become COVID positive, which means
they have to delay their chemotherapy because they cannot come
to the clinic and they're too sick and it's too risky.
(28:48):
I have two teenagers at home that are doing online
schooling while schools are closed. My youngest girl, my youngest
has high functioning autism. You would never know if you
saw her, but she has social anxiety and she's loving
them learning. My older daughter is a senior in high school.
I feel so bad for her. So far the prom, graduation,
and the senior activities are postponed. And if senior is
(29:09):
supposed to be so much fun and she's stuck at home,
unable to be with her friends, she is pretty miserable
and her beautiful banana yellow prom dress is just hanging up.
My mother is seventy eight and lives alone. Last week,
we drove by and had her stand out on her
balcony so we could wave and say hi from the car.
So as COVID lingers on, real life is still happening,
(29:30):
I keep looking at the positives because of COVID. My
mom learned how to FaceTime on an iPad she never
used before. My teens are forced to spend time with us,
which has been nice. My siblings and cousins all meet
up via zoom and it was quite comical. Traffic has
been next to nothing. The community is coming together to
support for one another, and I feel like our governor
(29:51):
is doing an amazing job. I'm temporarily going to take
a job, a second job, to triage people with COVID
symptoms to help them get the care they need. I
want to help them more wherever I can. I am
thankful for your podcast because it gives me a laugh
when I need it, and also appreciate Kate and all
of her sharing their true feelings and opinions. Stay safe
(30:11):
and keep being real with gratitude. Erin great name, oh
my wife's name. That email makes me emotional because, well,
for a number of reasons. One clearly, you you know,
healthcare workers love what they do. They feel this just
(30:32):
need and desire to have to help. And I just
find people like that to be really admirable. So I
really admire that, Aaron. And then to be a mother
and to be managing all of these things feels I understand,
you know, we all understand that, you know, But then
to add on top of that what you're doing is
(30:53):
just it's a great, well rounded email. It's because it's funny,
and she's also again we talked about silver linings, but
you know she's talking about how the families coming together,
how there are these more the more of these zoom calls.
You know, there's a connectivity that's happening that we I
got very emotional with the yellow prompt because you think
about kids, especially at that age, you know, your teenage years,
(31:16):
everything feels so immediate and like it's it's just the
end of the world, you know, and it's a very
hard time to be a teenager. So I feel that
sort of that they're not being given their celebratory moments.
I know, we can always say, well, you know what,
there's a lot of worse things going on in the world,
(31:38):
and you can skip your prom and graduation, but it
means a lot of these kids, you know what I mean, right, Yes,
I know that these things are horrible, but it's not
selfish to sort of say and thank god, I can't
believe I'm not going to have my prominence bummer. Right, Yeah,
that's of course. I know. They're not so fun. I know,
oh my god, I know. You know in The Bachelor,
(32:01):
you know, in The Bachelor, there's moments where like girls
will be like, I never had a prom, and I'm like, yeah,
I forget what Bachelor it was. But then they like
gave her a prom or something. He gave her a prom. Yeah,
maybe it wasn't the Badger anyway, but you see that
a lot like girls or guys you didn't get to
go to prom. I know, and that'll be this generation
of seniors. By the way, for some people, it's gonna
(32:23):
be like, oh fuck, thank god, there's no prom I mean,
for real, there's gonna be a whole group of kids
who are like, holy shit, thank god I didn't have
a date anyway, I was too scared to ask her.
Now I'm off the hook. I loved that email. Thank you, Aaron.
Here we go Number two. Every sibling rivalry begins the
(32:46):
exact moment you lose your position on the throne as
being an only child. Most siblings grow out of it.
Then there's our story. My brother and I are four
years apart, almost to the day, missing it by mere hours.
So needless to say, my long standing adoration was easily
rocked by his presence the day before my birthday, and that,
(33:07):
my friends, is when the torch was lit, igniting our rivalry.
I tried to be the proud big sister and probably
had the T shirt that said so, But in all actuality,
I just really wanted a kitten for my birthday. So
since my parental units didn't get me one, I figured
I would take it about myself to get my own,
(33:28):
which meant at the ripe old age of four and
a half, I decided to sell my parents offspring to
the next door neighbor for a quarter and a pack
of juicy fruit. When the neighbor girl came to collect
the little tormentor, it was obvious that the mother figure
wasn't about to let it go, so at that point,
the only thing left to do was to shove the
(33:49):
entire pack of juicy fruit in my mouth and hand
back over the quarter. After figuring out that I couldn't
sell him on the black market, I tried a different approach.
Let's try, I don't know, maybe getting along. What could
go wrong? We decided to join forces and act like
normal siblings, but that was cut short when our mom
came home early from work found out that we were
(34:10):
running a neighborhood gambling ring out of our garage at
the ripe ages of eleven and seven. That little camaraderie
cost us two weeks of house arrest during the summer.
We decided it would be in our best interest to
go back to our normal behavior with each other now
flashing forward because the statue of limitations is not up
when it comes to our mom, and there's a lot
(34:30):
for us to be still grounded for during our high
school and college years, but not to disappoint our most
famous sibling rivalry competition to date. As a prelude, our
mom sent us to private Catholic schools our entire life,
even down to an all boys and all girls Catholic
high school. For the past twenty plus years, we have
been entertaining friends and family with our yearly Christmas religious
(34:52):
gag gifts, and so far it has been very heated race,
a very heated race with Pope on a rope, the
Jesus Christ singing Hallelujah, wallet, none bowling set with its
own hell ball of fire, how to Dance like Jesus' book,
and of course my favorite, the one I had specially
made just to document or monumental occasion of being siblings.
(35:13):
With all that being said, I truly enjoy your podcast,
knowing that I'm not alone and secretly wanting to get
back on that throne. Keep up the amazing work, Stay
safe and healthy From Amy aka my Mom's favorite child,
no matter what she says. Did you feel that Amy's
submission was really relatable to you? Oh? Yeah, I mean extremely.
(35:39):
I don't ever, I don't really ever remember feeling anger,
you know, towards you. What, No, not really like feeling it.
You know, you just got in my way. Oh Jesus,
you just got in my way, you know. But all
these pictures that I'm finding of us, I'm hugging you,
(35:59):
And so maybe I was better than I thought. Maybe
you're just remembering all the bad things, you know, but
the good things. There are more good things than bad things.
But you're just remembering all the bad things. Okay, this
is from Kathleen. I just wanted to say I love
(36:21):
your podcast, and I'm so grateful for you too, for
doing what you're doing. I work in healthcare. I am
an addictions therapist at a hospital in West Virginia, and
while I didn't stockpile toilet paper, I did hoard your episodes.
So I've been listening to them on my drive to
and from work. If I could give some acknowledgment to
my patients. Addiction is such an isolating disease, and people
(36:44):
in recovery truly benefit from the social connection of others,
and they don't get to have that right now. So
I've been recommending my people's listen to your podcast because
for me, when I'm listening to it, it feels like
I'm a part of this intimate dialogue with family, and
I feel connected to you. So again, I'm so grateful
to you for who you are and what you do
for others. Oh, I just want to cry every time.
(37:09):
I literally like, that's amazing. We should do something on addiction.
We should do it. Yeah, yeah, especially because it's so
I mean, it's I mean when you when you work
in the arts, you're around it so much, you know,
And and I've lost a lot of friends to addiction,
and I have had a lot of friends that have
(37:30):
recovered and suffered and recovered and wow, thank you, thank you.
But I also it's why we're so pulled to this.
Initially it was really about all over and I wanting
to just do something fun and spend time together. It's
taken on a different life, which has been so fun.
And if you can, if we can sort of touch people,
(37:51):
you know, even whether it be addiction or isolation or
anyone even bringing up Hoffman. You know, people have been
to Hoffman now and I've gotten twelve to fifteen letters
from people at Hoffman. You know, because at the end
you write, you know, you have an opportunity to write
a letter to whoever you want to and I've gotten
(38:12):
I think fifteen of them. They've heard about it on
the show. From my experience, they went to Hoffman and
you know, they're like, this has changed my life, and
so it's how amazing is amazing for me? I've been
I cry at each one I read. I'm like, this
is so cool. I feel like so cool us telling stories.
Playing characters is a blast, right, and you can reach
(38:35):
people through characters every once in a while there's a
character that people really relate to, right, But when you
can actually sort of talk to people about like the
things that could make them feel good in their life
and it actually has some kind of impact, there's nothing
more rewarding to me than like hearing her say that.
(38:56):
You know, it just makes me so happy that that's it.
I mean, if it just touched Kathleen, then I'm totally
I'm totally happy, grateful. We want to keep doing these
kinds of things, and I know we talked about it
many many podcasts ago I was making there's a New
Year's Eve thing, but it's about just being more charitable
with my time, not necessarily my my pocketbook. You know,
(39:18):
it feels good and it may be selfless. I don't know,
it's it's both. It can they think it can work
both ways. But when you get responses like this, or
when I read those letters from Hoffmann, it makes me
just want to keep doing more of that. I know, well,
this was this was way to wrap it up. This
is so fun. Oh my god, this is a great
(39:39):
like Reunited, I believe. Are you serious right now? Yeah,
we got to wrap it up just like that. We
did it great. I love it. I love you, I
love you too. Sibling Revelry is executive groups by Kate Hudson,
Olira Hudson and Simsarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnank. Editor
(40:02):
is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.
Hosts And Creators
Oliver Hudson
Kate Hudson
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