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January 27, 2025 45 mins

Britney Spears' ex, Sam Asghari has no regrets.

Despite his high-profile marriage, a public divorce, and what he calls 'the weirdest spiral' he's ever seen, Sam still feels like he's living the American Dream.

He shares his real thoughts on Britney's former conservatorship, and what he considers the biggest career risk of all!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling railvalry.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, no, sibling.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Vely, that's good.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Al Rodson here, Holy shit, lots to talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's been a minute since I've actually recorded a fresh podcast.
As everyone knows, we've been dealing with a lot of
shit here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm not going to get into all that right now.
I will in a bit of a rant that you
will hear in this new season of.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Sibling Revelry, adding a few little bells and whistles to
the game, but just touching on it. Fucking devastation. That's
where I grew up. It's gone and it's crazy. Everyone's
okay though. That's the good part. But we'll get into

(01:24):
all of.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It in a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Right now, we have Sam Ascari waiting in the waiting room.
He did show Traders, which I'm eager to see. Alan
Cummings is the hosting looks very creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
And uh interested in his life where he came from.
He is a good story. Let's bring him on. Hey,
what's up man?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
How you going?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is the first show that I've recorded since the fires.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So where are you at? You're You're in La So.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Right across the street is pretty much Palastate on sunset. Yeah,
And I don't know how I didn't evacuate, and I
don't know what happened. And we just didn't even lose power.
It was just the street that was not effected about anything.
Everybody else evacuated. I still see some Coast Guard military

(02:22):
cars across the street. So that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I mean, I mean, that's kind of how it works. Obviously.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
This has just been insanely devastatings where I grew up.
So my family's all right, houses were all right, except
for my brother. My brother's Boston's house went. But the
amount of people that I know whose houses have burned,
it's like just unfathomable.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But then there's this, there's a few you know that
are still miraculously standing.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, very crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think they let some of the Palastate people back in, yeah,
to the neighbor to check out their home, but they're
not allowed to stay there. But I think if you're
in LA, you at least know one person that was
effected by the fire.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh yeah, Oh my gosh, it's been nutty.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
The videos from all the animals are are insane. I mean,
I feel really bad for people, but I think humans
we can help ourselves and eventually, you know where. But
animals are just I saw the video of the horse
going back and getting other horses, you know, so that
was just it was just a weird time it was at.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I know it was crazy. But you didn't evacuate.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh I didn't. Yeah, I didn't. I don't know how
because everyone around bel Air Side is evacuated. How the
state side was evacuated. The whole four or five was
closed for a few days, and I don't know. I
think I heard there's there might be more wins coming
down this place today tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, I know, it's nutty. Well give me a story, aboudy,
I mean interesting one.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Right, you came on. How old were you when you
came here? You know?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Give me the rundown. I think it was the perfect age.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I was twelve and you know now, I just look
back and see I lived half of my life in
the country that was completely the opposite of America.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I lived the other half here. So I was twelve
years old and I moved here. I was in seventh grade,
and it was just the best thing that ever happened
to me in life. When you're from a country like Iran,
and I really appreciated the culture. But when I moved here,
I really wanted to focus on fitting in in America.
I mean I did everything to try to fit in

(04:43):
as soon as possible. I tried baseball, which I sucked.
That in an American sport. I was like, okay, I
can't do this. Then I tried drinking gatorade every single morning.
We thought that was like the most American thing you
can do, you try to fit in, and that was okay.
I almost got diabetes from that. And then I played

(05:03):
American football. I did all the things to fit in,
because when you're coming from a country like that, you
look at America as this land of opportunity.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
You know, what about the language, I mean obviously you
didn't know the language, or did.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
You You know?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I didn't, you know. I went to English classes. But
with me classes it's just every time I sit down
in the class, my brain just goes out the window,
you know. So I didn't really pay attention to my
English classes. I mean I knew words like pencils and
all that. But when I came here. I remember the

(05:39):
first week I was in school, I was out in Camery,
or California that way. That's where I went to middle school.
And I went to class and I was I was
so enthusiastic about America. I was like, Wow, everybody's you know,
everybody's going to be nice to me. Everybody's going to
welcome me. And my dad always told me, oh, they
love like you know, everybody, and and everything's fine. So

(06:01):
I went to middle school and I was late to class.
I was late to class. It was this history class.
So I sat in the back of the classroom where
the American flag is. You know, you got the American flag,
and you sit down and you pick your own seats.
You don't have assigned seats in public schools. So I
sit down and everybody stands up. They turn around and

(06:23):
they start singing something. You know. They started saying, I
pledge allegiance to the flag. And at that time I
didn't know what it was. And all I remember was
my dad saying they're going to love you. They're gonna
you know, they love immigrants and they love new So
I was like, Wow, they're welcoming me. They know I'm new.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You thought it was all for you.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I thought it was for me. So I got up
and I saluted, and it was just all the kids
were like, what the fuck is this guy doing?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Taking vows like thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, So you know, I had this. I had this
positive mindset. The language was nothing. I learned it right away.
I mean I was in a age where it's usually easier.
You know, did you experience.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
The twelve bullying or discrimination? You know, you're new, you
don't speak the language. Kids are fucking assholes.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
For the most part, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know what. I'm sure there was, but I think
the mind I'm not going to go into the victim
mindset and all that. I think that has to do
with you. So if somebody does make fun of your bully,
you you can either. I mean, I came from a
country where pretty much, you know, my twelve years was
like forty years in another country. The experiences that you

(07:39):
go through, you know, it's not the same. You know,
kids get to run around the streets with that parent.
It's a different culture, yeah, basically, But when I came here,
I didn't look at it as I didn't know what
bullying is, like that's molding back home, so I don't
know what bothing is.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's a great point, you know, it did not diminish
anything from you know, kids who are bullied.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But it's nothing new. I mean obviously online you know,
digital bullying and stuff like that. It's almost worse than
than it is in person, you.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Know, and in person it's part of being on the
schoolyard too, you know what I mean. And I imagine
where you grew up. You look in America like this
is bullying, like this is uh.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, it's not that. But you know, it's subjective. For me,
it might be different than somebody else. Obviously if I
I did stand up for bullies even in America and
things like that. But back home, coming to this country
was just such a blessing that everything was a privilege.
Other parents tried to you know, that's it's different. But

(08:47):
here I looked at it as this, Wow, this is
such a great opportunity, and like everybody bullied us at
some point. They used to call it at the time,
this isn't six. So Borat was out with Sasha Barancona
and I send them a message and I told him
and he sent me back an emoji. I don't know
what that means, but I said, dude, like you, you

(09:08):
helped me survive. And the reason why you helped me
survive is because people used to love that Borat and
we used to make those you know, like they're nice.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
All the all the white kids were like the popular
kids like coming out with us, and you know, we'll
make fun of you. At the time, we thought we
were popular. Me and my best friend were both from
you on. But but we weren't popular. They just wanted
to clown us and make fun of us.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
But I remember big skin, right, I mean I didn't.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's thick skin. Ignorance is a blessing, whatever they say.
But I didn't. Luckily I didn't. I was so blessed
to be here.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Your siblings, right, I have three sisters, Yes, you do,
and where you stand in the in the pecking order.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So I'm the youngest one and the next one after
me is eight years and then they're back to back
to back. In other words, my dad had you know,
my dad wanted a son, and I think he was
you know, he's a flirty type. So God give him
three girls to teach him a lesson.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So you have three older sisters, yes, yes, wow, wow yea.
And so why did you immigrate over to the United States?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Like what was it was there? He wanted a better
life for his kids. You know, how did that work?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
My dad was here in the US, I think since
ninety eight, got it and I was here with him
and me and my mom because it's just such a
hard process to get a visa anywhere. And it's like
almost as you need to win the lottery to come
to the US. There's literally a lottery system to come

(10:54):
to the US. And my dad and I and my
mom were able to come. But then we got three
you know, I have three sisters. They have three little
girls back home that they can't just you know, bring
because of the process. So it took about ten years
just for them to get an appointment to the immigration Wow.

(11:16):
And so I had to end up going back and
I was I was four years old. So I ended
up going back and I wanted to be with them.
And then after a few years it was just the
right time and we got an appointment and we went
out to Istanbul, Turkey, and we got our visa. I
got my visa first because I was under the age
of eighteen and if you're eighteen and over, you have

(11:39):
to do an FBI check. So they did an FBI check,
but it took another six years just for that FBI
check to become clear for them. So I moved here first,
and they came after six years.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And they just wanted to try to give you guys
a better life.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
As that was at the idea that that was the idea.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Like from you're on every time look at America. People
don't understand a lot of my you know, white friends
or American friends, or they don't they look at Iran
as the government. The government is completely different than the
people of Iran. The people of Iran love America. They
love America. This is their destination. This is like their
ticket to the you know, the chocolate factor. That's how

(12:21):
it is. And for us was just better opportunities like
this is if you put your mind into anything in America,
whatever you want to become, you can and the American
dream is still there for those type of people. So
it was literally just opportunity, better life, freedom, women freedom,

(12:41):
it's ridiculous to be talking about this, but it's real.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean it's it's it's not ridiculous at all. You
and I are talking about that for a second. I mean,
how does that, How does that even work? I mean,
are you even able to you know, it's just that
we as human being beings are sexual human beings. We
have that are like obviously, that's how we've pro created
and created the human rights. Yeah, and these are those

(13:09):
all those does that all have to get pretty repressed?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I mean you and I are both very familiar with
the NS attainment industry. Imagine an entertainment industry where women
are not allowed to sing in public. So that's what's
happening there. And you take it back thirty years ago.
Women were so inspiring in that country and they were
allowed to sing and they took that away. So it's

(13:34):
just sad. So us we have three girls in our
families and we have to get up and go. I mean,
my sisters now, thank to I mean they were always achieving,
you know, academic success. They were super small. Unlike me,
the black sheep in the family. I am in the

(13:57):
bad way black sheep in the bad way. I didn't
go I didn't do good in school and or well
I ever, I can't even imagine read ten fifteen pages
without sleeping. But they have one of them is it
just became a doctor, the other one as a forensic scientist.

(14:17):
And my youngest sister has her medical spossor these things
are only achievable in the US. You know, not that
women can't do anything now over there, but you know
they have whatever they want to achieve here, it's possible
at least the opportunities there up to you.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And then what about religion? Were you guys very religious family?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
And you know, looking back, even in Iran, I didn't
really meet people that were religious because they used the
governm has used some sort of a you know, idealism
and religion to suppress and they used Islam Aslam as
a beautiful, you know religion, but they've watered down, they

(15:13):
changed it so much that people don't even want to
listen to it. You know, if you say ridiculous things
and you said a prophet said it or God said it,
then makes you not have faith and faith so people
don't really not religious. For me, nothing has ever proven
itself to me, then good things and good karma or

(15:36):
whatever universe or whatever the case is. When you do
something unintentionally that you don't tell anyone or you don't
post about it, you know, you always you always get
paid back instantly. So that's I don't know what you
want to call it, but to me, if I do
good in life and I don't, you know, I don't

(15:58):
hurt anybody, I don't do anything bad.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I go through life not in a perfect way, of course,
as humans were not perfect. But if we do good
and we never hurt anybody, and when we get to
the heaven gates, whether if it's Jesus or Muhammad or
whoever it is, they're going to let you in. They're
not going to be like, oh, you were a bad
person because you didn't pray at a forty five three angle.

(16:23):
Respect to our religions, and I love our religions. I
think we learn so much from it.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
But if we don't do anything bad where you know,
I'm not a religious person at all, But but you
weren't pressured in any way by your family and no.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Not my family, but by by people. When you live there,
you go to school, to religious school, or you have
to you know, you have to, you have to kind
of go. You know, it's forced religion there. I have
some friends that are here that are BAHAs or Jewish
and they weren't able to, you know, go to the
same schools.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It's yeah. And then so you're here, you your living
dream of being in America. And then how did this?
How did it happen?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You wanted to be a model, you wanted to be
an actor. I mean, when did the entertainment come into
your world to go from there? And sort of you know,
how did that all sort of went down? I mean,
obviously a handsome dudeo where you're like, shit, like I'm seventeen,
I look fucking good, like I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Be at seventeen years old. At seventeen years old, I
didn't look good. I didn't look bad, but I didn't
look good. I was three ten. I was playing football.
I was in a football shit American football shit, and
I was playing football at the time. And right when
I went to college, that's when things weren't I know,

(17:42):
like at no, I'm playing two years of college football
at a junior college out in California, and I knew
my time was over and I knew that I had to.
You know, I was working multiple jobs and I wanted
to be entertainment. And that takes me back to high
school where I was back theater, arts and drama, and
same with college. So that was just always see me

(18:05):
oh no, no, no, god No.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I was in the west like West Like high school,
west like okay.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yes, yes, uh no, seeming no no no no uh no.
But I was in westle like high school. And I
went to more part college because I was the closest
college to me. And after that it was just time
for me to part ways and start working and start

(18:32):
I was always supporting myself throughout high school, but I
had to really focus on that because now adulthood is
right around the corner. And that's when I started getting
into possibly looking into getting an acting agent and really
start acting professionally. So I got an acting agent and

(18:52):
I started, you know, auditioning only for commercials and that
went really well. Then did a I think I went
in for a commercial and somebody offered something to me
which was a music video and it was that group
Fit Harmony group. You remember they had a group and
it was like a construction video and it was like,

(19:12):
you know, people were came out and they went very viral.
People love this song and even to now I get
all these videos from me doing the Jackhammer the American
dream Man.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's true. I didn't see your probably shirts.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I like, yeah, yeah like that. It's just it was
just this like you know, so to a porn and yeah,
and people loved it. People loved the Cosmopolitan that a
you know, article of it, and that was my first
mainstream thing was which was like a you know, and
you get all these followers on Instagram. Then at that time,

(19:53):
I was like, okay, it's time to be a serious actor.
Let's no longer do music videos because you know, music,
nobody really watches music videos and nobody commercials fun. But
the respect is not elite acting. It's a lot of money.
People pay make a lot more money on commercial than

(20:15):
they do on TV and film sometimes, but it was
not respected, and I wanted to go to the next level.
So I said, I'm no longer going to do any
more music videos and none of that stuff, no more modeling,
no more commercials. Then one day I get a call
from an agent saying are you available? They want you

(20:37):
for a music video. It's an a less music video,
but we don't know who, we don't know how, And
I was like, okay, I probably not, you know, most
likely not. Then a friend of mine was doing makeup
and hair and said, oh, you know, my friend Colin,
Colin Telly was the director, is really amazing director from

(20:57):
music videos and feature films now, and he said, my
friend's doing it and they want to cast you. You
should come because I'm working in it, and you know,
we make some good friends and you should just do it.
So I said, okay, and I call my agent and
said is that still available? They're like yes, they reached
out again. And I go, okay, cool, and I go
into the music video and it's just another job. And

(21:22):
then there's seven years worth of relationship that comes from
the music video and a marriage and a lot of
experiences and a lot of a lot of experiences, which
I like to call it a crash course in Hollywood,
which was which was great. Yeah, you tell you learn,

(21:47):
you learn from everything.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I mean, obviously, how old are you now?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I'm thirty.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Now you're thirty. So you're getting married young, you know, yeah,
you're getting married young. You're taking a chance, you're in
love and should Sometimes shit doesn't work out.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
You know Caid?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yes, okay, so I know Brittany a little bit, and
I know Caid very well. Cad was it my He's
crazy and I love him. But he was at my
New Year's e party this year in Colorado?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
But what was that whirlwind? Like?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, you know again a twelve year old kid
from it On coming to the States all of a sudden, bang,
It's like you're thrust into this sort of spotlight and
is it like, is this what the fuck I want?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Or was it was?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
It?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Was there something alluring to it as well? Because we
all like to be recognized, you know what I mean,
I don't. I don't mind it when people come up
to me and like the things that I've done or
have some recognition, and it feels good.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
But what was that like for you? I mean, because
it's that's big time shit. It's like, holy fuck. Bang.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So here's the thing. I never looked at it as
a big time thing. The reason why the spotlight and
you know, you have a public relationship and people start
even paying attention. Even if you're Travis Kelcey, you're in
the NFL, you're the best guident in the league. They
still associate you with pop culture. Culture is the biggest
thing in the world, and better yet to be associated with,

(23:15):
you know, an icon, someone that's labeled as princess of pop.
So for that I wasn't too you know, it didn't
really mess up my mind. The reason why I say
that is because I think coming to America was the
best thing and the biggest thing that ever happened. And
when you live in a different country, you kind of

(23:37):
sort of have an experience, a wider you know, experience,
and you're more grounded, and you're more you know, you
more understand what happens to you. So I think me
just be you know, being from a different country and
learning all those experiences and coming to this country was
such a big change that it made everything else become easier.

(24:06):
And I figure, I think if you do everything, if
you follow everything with honor and respect, and you think
twice before you do anything, nothing could ever go wrong
and nothing could ever be a bad thing. It doesn't
work out. If things end and things happen that you

(24:26):
know you were not wanting to happen, you just have
to sort of take a moment and appreciate it. That
it ever even happened. Then then sit there and do
well and be.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Said, it's such a big part of your life. Think
about that, you know. I it's someone though.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Actually on this show, I was talking to a guest
and you know, they asked about regrets that I've talked
about very personal things on this show, and you know,
some bad things that I'd done in my life, and
I was like, I don't have fucking regrets, you know,
because I don't know I would be without the without
the culmination of my experiences. So if I was to

(25:05):
take away and cherry pick these things that I don't
like about me, or a few things that I kind
of was fucked up with or I wasn't in my
right mind, or I wasn't doing the right thing, if
I just take those away, then I'm not sure you're
I'm taking pieces of myself away and take character building moments.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Hopefully, you know. So I don't have regrets.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
But then of course, you know, Press picks it up
and it's like Oliver Hudson has no regrets for anything.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
He's ever done. It's like, okay, you know, so you know,
you don't kill anyone.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It happens, it's life, you know, and you take so
much from those experiences, you know what I'm saying, And
I'm sure you have.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, absolutely. I mean I've always looked at life as
a blessing. I didn't look at it as this big
thing for my care because my career is always completely
different than my personal life, even though it might be like,
you know, it might be a ridiculous thing to say,
because things happened the way it happened because of my career.

(26:09):
I was on an acting job. I was already acting,
and I was already going into it, you know, and
I met a coworker that happened to be you know, uh,
the princess of pop and I and you know, we
got we sort of clicked and we sort.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Of jaw is that What was the meeting?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Did she would I mean she approached you or you?
Did you have the balls to approach her?

Speaker 3 (26:34):
You know what I mean? At that time, I was young,
so I wasn't you know, I wasn't accepted of ever
getting to know someone that was in pop culture. I
thought it was not manly. So you know, when you're young,
you think like, oh, just rap music and.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
So I didn't really I never even listened to pop
music up until then, pop culture, her music and things
like that, so I did. I wasn't really of course,
I know who she was and things like that. But
when I go into a job, I go in as
a professional, even if it's a music video. And even now,
if I go into a job like I did, if

(27:15):
I do a TV series that I liked it, I
only have a few moments, and I'm going to go
in as if I'm you know, I'm going to be
on time, I'm going to be excited. I'm going to
try to sleep, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna be nervous,
I'm going to be It's like a dream to me.
So I'm always gonna no matter what the job is,
I will always go into it the same way. And

(27:36):
that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And I was there.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I was very relaxed. It was a music video. It's
a two day music video.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It was at a house and I think on cold
Water in Beverly Hills, and everything was was going right,
and everything was going great. And we talked and we
figured we would we would. We were both single, and
we figured grab some sushi and then we grab some
sushi on Los Angele at this restaurant called Koi, and

(28:06):
everything was going really well until one day I started
learning about what the conservatorship is and things like that,
and that's when I was like, wait a minute, Like
I thought, I'm in America, What do you mean? What
do you mean somebody doesn't have, you know, their basic
economy of their own life right when you mean someone

(28:28):
over the age of eighteen needs permission from their parents
and all this ridiculous thing. But you know, I'm very
new to this and everybody is even It's just it's
such a ridiculous thing in this country to have to
deal with. And that was by far the most I'm

(28:49):
not going to say difficult, because I don't think anything's difficult.
That was the weirdest thing to deal with, not which
is really strange to say in Hollywood and entertainment because
people will tell you it's usually media, fans, the money
and everything else that's going to be hard that to

(29:11):
deal with. But one of the most important, one of
the hardest things I think to deal with when you do,
you know, when you go into entertainment is your parents
and the people around you and everything that that happens,
and everybody that comes into your life that taken advantage
that damage you, because those are the people that are
closest to you. It's never the fans, It's never the media.

(29:35):
It's never you know, I always celebrities when they're mad
at TMZ and you know they're mad at all these people.
There are the reasons why you're you know, popular and famous.
Is the media and the fans and all that. They
will never hurt you. Usually the people that are around you,
the people that you allow into your circle, you kind

(29:56):
of are vulnerable to them, and they take an advantage
because they think you, you know, you owe something to
them or something, which is so ridiculous. That was the
most difficult and weird spiral thing that I've witnessed in
my life. Ever.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Had you handle that?

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I mean, you know, with someone that you love watching
this happen, you know, and wanting to protect and wanting
to sort of fight for.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Well, first, you have to be in a position to
say anything in a verse to do anything, because if.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
You're not, you know, if you're sort of just a
boyfriend or you're sort of just there and the time
you're not right, you know, people can sort of force
you out or get you out of the situation.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
If they don't like you, you're around. So you have
to be really careful how you deal with this type
of thing. So you know, I think the best thing
you can do is to provide support in that moment.
And that's what I did. I provided as much as
I could support and be there and and you know,
provide information that might be helpful, provide resources that might

(31:08):
be helpful, and really try to understand why this even happened,
why the conservatorship even happened to begin with, And and
I was just this was my experience in life that
I had to go through very gently, because if you
do anything wrong, you say the wrong thing, you know.

(31:28):
And luckily my experience from another country that I had
to deal with, these type of things come into place,
and it's just it was a very difficult time. I think,
you know, eleven years.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
We said seven years.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
It was we were in a relationship for almost seven years,
but you know, it was it was so much that
we've gone through as a couple, and we learned so much,
and and it was it was a beautiful experience.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
With the separation. Okay, you know, it's not.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Divorce, separation. Breakups suck. Yeah, anybody you know, of course
it's gonna suck. But I always had the mindset of
I would never be sad that it's over. I'm always
going to be grateful and happy that ever even happened.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
All right, So traders man, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I just did a movie. I did Happy Gilmore too,
and Nicki Bella.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, I've known her for a little bit and she's
fucking awesome. Those girls, Brian Niki are just so rad.
I love them so much. I got to talk to
her a little bit about.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
It, but.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I know it's airing. We can't talk about too much.
But give me some of the experience of what this
thing was. She told me a little bit about it,
how crazy it was and how real it is, you
know what I mean. Like the shot is it's I know,
when we watch TV and we watch reality TV or
unscripted television, you know, it's like, oh, well, they're going
to set this up and it's going to be scripted,

(33:10):
and of course there has to be some structure to it.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
But apparently it was like now, it's pretty gnarly.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, it's I mean, the only thing I know from
a set and a project is scripted stuff and things
that are not reality whatsoever unless you decide to, you know, improv.
Improv is the closest thing I see from unscripted. So
I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't

(33:36):
even know. I don't know what a housewife is, but
I know what a housewife is. Yeah, I don't know
what a housewife is. And you know, I don't even
know what summer house is or I don't know any survivor.
I have no idea what it is. So I go
into this thing fresh off the boat. I don't know anything,
and it was such a cool experience and it was

(33:59):
just so cool to get to know people I want.
I went in there not wanting to you know, I
didn't obviously go in there wanting to win everything. I
just wanted to go and check it out, and not
really I just you know, people told me, don't don't
you talk with the housewives because they will eat you alive,

(34:20):
and you're going to be that You're going to be
the you know they're going to because of media and
all this. When you separate, somebody has to be the
bad guy in the media. And I don't know who
the bad guy is supposed to be, but if they
only knowed you for your relationships, so they're going to
judge you. So, you know, the first three episodes, which

(34:41):
is already out, I'm in it and I'm helping out
in the missions and doing the physical stuff and not
really trying to get involved because I know that people
are going to judge me. Or I was just so
scared people are going to judge me. And then I'm
there and then I see this guy that's like sweating
and like doing all these weird things, and automatically he

(35:05):
was the bad guy. So I was like, Okay, this
is cool.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You were able to pull back enough to where you
weren't labeled the bad guy.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And you know, the first episodes, I take a lot
of showers. You know, I take it. They have it
on camera. There's it's like an old spice commercial. Yeah, yeah,
hour so I did. It's no good at least say much.
I don't get involved much, but the leading episodes I
do get involved. It gets more enterpinning and I'm excited

(35:34):
to see how it's edited.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
That's the other thing, dude, you are you are at
the mercy, Uh, system. You can be one thing in
real life and they can edit you to where you're
like wait a minute, yeah, wait, wait whoa wait a
second here, But that's just.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Kind of what you're dining off on, you know, you
know what, I.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Think this might have been the craziest thing I've done
in my in my career because of exactly it's a risk.
It's a risk that you have to take a lot
of people coming into this ready to go like guns,
like Bob the Drag Queen. I don't, by the way
I walk in there, I know nobody. I just know Nikki.

(36:16):
The reason why I know Nikki is because the first
fitness shoot I did, I have a little feature in
her cover it's her and her sister, and I was like,
this is what. So I only knew Nikki, but everybody
else I had no idea who I thought. The Tom
guy was the bad guy from Toy Story, you know,

(36:38):
the antagonism toys. I mean, you know, that was the
only thing. And but you know, I love getting to
know people. I think even if they're from reality and
they have some sort of a personality, it's still there's
still a human being. And I love to get to
know people. I love for them to get to me

(37:00):
because then they'll be really surprised of you know times.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Well, yeah, because here's the thing, like we you know,
this whole business and even aside from this business is
just all based on perception, you know, and you know,
no one knows your story really, I mean I do
know people you have told and whatever outlets you've sort

(37:25):
of told your story too about growing up and on
being twelve years old coming to the States, how it
all went down, the six years of waiting processes for
you tire family to get here.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You know, what you went through as a kid and.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
All that everyone almost the only thing anyone knows is
the perception of you and Brittany and how that all
went down. And then there is an opinion that is
formed that is probably incorrect, where it's like, who's this
hot dude who is now using this pop star to
sort of advance and further his career, which is bullshit.

(37:58):
But you can't control what people are thinking and saying,
and that that just snowballs and snowballs.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
So now that's who you are, and now it's your job.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And you would never take away that experience, but it's
your job to sort of say, hey, you know what,
this isn't who the this isn't who I am, and
now I can use my platform because you have developed
somewhat of a platform, which.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Is great to jump off and be you. You know, hey,
this is me, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
And so I would imagine that that sticks in the
back of your head as well, you know, because no
one likes to be, you know, misrepresented, especially with people
who don't really fucking know you. At the same time,
the healthiest attitude is to say, hey, you know what,
fuck off, I don't care what you think because I
know who I am, which is in my opinion, much

(38:48):
easier said than done for.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Me, because you care what people think. You know.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Of course I could get to that place where I
truly didn't care what people thought, then I would be
a better performer, I would be a better actor, or
I would just be just better, just generally, because sometimes
when we care so much, or when we care, it
can make you small and freeze you up because you
don't want to do anything bad.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
So how much are you fighting that or do you care?
You know?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
And especially in traders, are you like, well, I want
to I'm I'm not, I'm not just fucking Britney's ex dude, Like,
I am a real person and I'm a good man,
and I want the world to know.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
That, you know what. I think the best way to
deal with Hollywood or perceptions and things like that is
always not to deal with it at all. I do
think it's easier to be yourself. It's easier said than done.
You said it, but it's the best thing you can do.

(39:49):
Sometimes the best thing you can do is to be yourself.
As long as you're a good person. You can't be
yourself if you're hurting others. You've got to change because
then you're you're you're hurting other people, which is not okay.
But if you're if you're being yourself and coming into

(40:10):
this country, man, I truly really thought I was here
with the mindset that this is this is a gift
to me, you know, and now I owe everything that
I have to this country. So for me, the biggest
dream is to be a Tyler Perry, to be an Athlet,

(40:31):
to be someone like Adam Sandler. These guys are providing
jobs and they're they're giving back to the industry, to
the community, They're inspiring people. That's the biggest job for them.
That's the biggest dream for me. It's not just to
come here and take and taking advantage of someone that's
been taking advantage by every single person in the world.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
What I'm going to do is I'm going to do
the opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Then we got a roll. But what what do you
think that? What do you think is the biggest miscon
set with you? I think and you are to clear
that up and be able to.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Have a microphone megaphone in the world saying this is
the biggest fucking misconception of me.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
You know, the biggest misc conception is that it's just
the opposite. The perception is the opposite of exactly who
I am. And you know, it has to do with looks,
it has to do with appearance, it has to do
with media, it has to do with everything. But once
you get to know me, it's it's completely different. So

(41:29):
I'm going to continue, you know, being myself and continue
living my life.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
The way I do.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Mm hm, Well, good dude. Well, I'm going to watch Traders.
It looks very compelling, you know, it's interesting Alan Cummings.
I watched the trailer and he looks like creepy I'm like, oh.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Man, he's the best part of it. It's kind of
like click Gains meet Mafia.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah game that.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah, it's it's such a cool, interesting thing. You should
definitely watch it.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I'm gonna check it out.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, anything else you're promoting, are you? You know you
got you're doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I mean it's so difficult right now, here's.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Modeling agent modeling again that this is a Doobe.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, no, I know they didn't cut her her as good.
That's nice. A German short hair pointer. Yes, that's our cousins. Actually.
Oh yes, my nephew Ryder has Adobe. Yeah, my daughter
wants one. My daughter's like I want to overmove.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Okay, I don't know, I don't maybe you. I mean
she's strong, so I don't.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Know if I like. I like her with the with
the with the floppy ears.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
The sweetest, she's the sweetest and her you know, talking
about perceptions. Yeah, that's why I have this dog, because
Doberman's they they you think they're like tough dogs and
they're but they're the sweetest dogs.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
In the world.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I mean, she sleeps on my head. Yeah, it's starting
to be annoying. But the reason why I have her
ears down is because first is cruel to cut their ears,
and too she loses her like cuteness.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I think, yes, of course, broccolm. What funny because the
German and he's nine, come here.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Come on, Oh he beautiful dog.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah he's the bird dog. But you know they have
the similar faces. Yeah, they're hunters, got the hunters.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Wow, yeah, they got similar almost the same eyes and everything.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
No, I know, I know. And he's Oh my god,
he's so attached to me.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
It's airy.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yes, he's so smart too.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, they're the best man an English.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I have an English bulldog as well, so I have
like the dumbest dog of all breeds and then I
have one of the smart.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
It's really funny together too, all right, buddy, Well, thank
you for taking the time, and I wish you the
best of luck. And I loved hearing your story. I
really do.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Thank you so much. Thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, of course, brother, and good luck with everything. I'm
gonna check you out and then check out traders.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I want to. You know, it sounds sounds fun as hell.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
It's super insand cool.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Thank you, take it easy.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Getting a good look at me swollen and gross.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah, it's all it's all bad. I'm not sure. I'm
not sure we could.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I think if we do a post for this video,
they just you know, for Instagram, it's just gotta maybe
be like, you know, an emoji over my face.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
So we don't get to see how fucked up I
look right now. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, I mean, you know, you hear,
you hear that Sam's coming on, and you know I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
I mean, you have I have the same perception.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It's sort of like, Okay, you know it's Britney Spears
is dude, but you know, you don't know the you
don't know the dude's story. He seems like a pretty
good fucking guy, you know. I mean, I wasn't going
to get into the whole thing. I don't have enough
time any like eighteen podcasts to do that. But what
a nice dude, handsome boy dude, shit, you know, handsome man.

(45:28):
Watch Traders. Thanks Sam for coming on. Oliver Hudson out
and do not You're not going to see my face
on this episode because I look like a I look
like my face looks like a vagina after natural birth.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Let's just leave it there.
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