Seth and Josh Meyers

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
So I am so excited about this one, Oliver. I've
been trying. I've been trying to get what we have
relationship with Seth on the program forever because I know
how close he is with his brother and.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Josh, Josh and so Myers. This was so.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's Myers. I was just so excited. I love Seth.
He's the best. I didn't even get into the fact
that I was on SNL and it was his.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
First year on it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I know there was a lot that I feel like
we it's almost like you do another part two of it.
But their relationship is so loving. I was like nervous,
it was. I was trying to find something that maybe
there was intentional.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You might have pushed a little too hard. I never
but out. I think they appreciated it. But they're just
they they are just so supportive of each other.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And you know, so loving and you know and they
don't even see each other that much on different coasts.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I just want to say, this was so fun. And
they have their own podcast. Yeah we get into I
get into with them right away, but they're starting to
have a podcast and they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Together to be closer to each other as part of
their deal. And I love that. I love them because
that brought us closer.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It did, all right, So enjoy Seth and Josh Myers.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
All around. What's up everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Ronnie was happened distracting me. She was wanting me to
do some routine. I told her that I told her
to pay me and she had no money.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
You're like, I'm on cameo. I was like, yeah, buy
a cameo, Ronnie.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
My kids did their first lemonade stand and it's shocking
the realization that nobody has money anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh my god. Fully via Venmo, I.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Stopped buy a lemonade stand the other day and they
had a thing that said this is where you can
send your Venmo to if you need it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Are you are?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
You are?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's that happened to us.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Although we had one person, well they only had one hundred,
and we didn't have any any change change because we
had like a little bit and we ended up getting
They were like just take it.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
We're like, God, no, I know when you really are
backfiring teaching your kids a lesson about money.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
We used to sell when we were kids. We had
like a stand and our mom would bake homemade chocolate
chip cookies and we would sell homemade chocolate chip cookies
and like cans of a weird off brand soda and
we would set up sort of at the top of
our subdivision in Michigan, and like.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Those cookies were warm and people. We did a good
business out there well. In the eighties, Kate and I
sold cocaine.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Great spot at a stand, Like you know, this is
the corner of the specific Palace Carrera.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
You just have to be near the woods where the
cops can't go. These carreras would just pull up a couple.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Of grams different times, early eighties.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
But I was obsessed with selling ship. When I was
in high school, I sold fake id's, didn't I sold marijuana,
not understanding that it's supposed to bud. So I just
stripped the leaves off of it and had so much
pesticide on it that people were smoking it and throwing
up everywhere getting sick.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I don't know what I was doing.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm just glad you didn't kill anybody, because that would
have been bad.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
But everyone thought like that, there's someone right now who's
listening and realizing that's who sold me those bad drugs.
I hadn't put two and two together. By the way,
you are for people who can't see, you're wearing a
hat that a guy who would sell you weed leaves.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You'd wear just the leaves, just the leaves. That was
the name of your week. That's a great that's a
great name.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, I was going to say, Seth, I've been trying
to get you on this podcast forever with your bro
and then every time on the show, I'm like, you
got to come on our podcast, and so welcome to
Sibling Revelry. I'm so excited. And you guys are going
to start your own sibling podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I hear we are. We are. We're entering the sibling marketplace.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Ours is called Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers, and
we are We're just going to drill down and talk
to people about the trips they took with their families
growing up and how they connected with theirs. And we
feel that it's a really nice time. Like I you know,
we were really close with our parents, still are, but
that's a it's a real I don't know what, but

(05:26):
I feel like you everything about your family is really
exaggerated when you go on a trip with them.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh yeah, good and the bad.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I was thinking about this because we have a couple
trips that are like epic trips.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So I don't want to get into it on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So when we come on your podcast, thank you, we
can share.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Thank you for your restraint. No, it's true. It's true
because we have a few that are.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Really happy times and like not and then others one
that I think we're both thinking about that was insane.
My wedding, Well there's your wedding, but then there was
also the boat.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, there was a lot of shit that went down.
Was the man again? Oh yeah yeah, yeah, that's I think.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But I mean these are really nice teasers. Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, but we I don't know about you guys, but
like the ones we still talk about are the ones
that we as a family didn't weren't at each other's throats,
but everything went wrong, Like I think a family trip
where everything goes wrong and yet you can come out
of it with like good stories are almost worth more
than everything always.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean at the end of the day, if you guys,
if everyone's in love and your family is a love
getting close family, you know almost that that friction will then,
you know, years later, will be the reason why you
keep talking about that trip and laughing at you.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
You get to come back with a little lore, you know,
you get a little folklore's.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Good, and then the story does change, like everybody's perspective
of it does change over the year, like twenty years later.
Everyone has a different point of view. That's what's happened
at the story.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's why that your idea is such a great idea,
because everyone has a different perspective on that vacation, and
everyone's varies, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
It'll be interesting to find out what when you have siblings,
on which ones do end up arguing about what actually
happened on the trip?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
One of our worst ever was at a place called
Molasses Pond, which Josh then wrote a school essay about.
So I think Josh in this case actually has he
can actually look back at written.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
I'd have to look in Mom's curated box of our
of our early works.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But yeah, that was it was a bad one. It
was a bad trip. Yeah. Mom still talks about.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It with sort of a.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
A real dreamy air. But she like got stung by
a horse fly and her like arms blew up and
she looked like a Popeye.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
With these huge forearms. So it was like rushed to
the hospital situation.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh no, that was like Short and show that movie
he did when he got stung by the b and
he's in the back of the air blows up. No,
it's with like Danny Glover and Martin Short and oh
this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I love it. I love that movie. Kids can't remember movies.
You don't remember that movie. It was a comedy. It
was some comedy.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Fair for you say, I remember, I don't know what
you're talking about. You be like to be fair to Oliver.
I do you think he did blow up in interspace?
So I think that's a nice poll.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think he did.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't think it's the movie Kate's talking about, but
I think it's a pretty solid your luck, pure luck,
pure luck.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I would not have gotten here. It's in the chat
that you didn't just come up. No, it's in the chat, Alison.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
One of Marty's specialties is giving this and having a
allergic ground.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know, just google it later and it'll it'll be
like post traumatic stress.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
One last thing that we'll get into your whole life.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
But like, I also find that vacations in general, even
with your family, the anticipation is incredible, and then the
and being retrospective about it is amazing. In the moment,
it's never as good as you anticipate or you remember.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, they I.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Read a thing recently that said that's why you should
book vacations far as far in advance as possible, because
you you'll get more mental health in the looking forward
to it than you will in the aftermath.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So like, I'm booking a lot for the actual.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Being there right right, it's even better than being there.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, or just or just quit family vacations just I
do that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I just want to be transported there the schlep to
get there, just to and not pay for it. That's
the that's the goal. So you you want to be
teleported for free? Yeah, yes, well that's my move. My
move with family vacations have clear, clear goals. Yeah, my
move is look, you guys, I got the kids. I

(09:54):
can't it's so much money. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And then I wear them down enough to where they're
finally like mom or kids like.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I'll just pay for it. Just get on the plane.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's at the hotel rooms.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I got to get all these hotel rooms. I'll get
the hotel rooms. Okay, Cat, you just got to be
the last one to blink. That's right.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, okay, Well, welcome to our podcast, and we always
start with something super simple, which is where did it
all start? Seth Josh Myers, where did you grow up?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
I came two years before Josh in Evanston, Illinois. We
were both born there, but we don't have much of
a memory of that because then we, as Josh mentioned,
we got off to Michigan, and we were in Michigan
what we're until we were nine and seven?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is that about right, Josh? Yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
I remember moving to New Hampshire was the middle of
second grade for me, so it was like that's we moved.
Over Christmas, over the holidays we did. We flew from
Michigan to Boston and went to go see cats and
it was sort of like everything was happening so fast,
and we sort of just got tricked into not being

(11:13):
sad about leaving our old sort of house and life
behind and cad.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Web and uh, I don't know if your listeners is
meinating them. We met the boxer marvelous Marvin Hagen is
it Cats and signed and signed my cat's playbill? Are
you kidding at a lot of people meet famous.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Box Do you still have that play bill? I feel
like I did.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
For a long time, and yet even longer, what feels
like an even longer time ago, my room was turned
into a family office, and I feel like maybe the
playbill didn't survive.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, yeah, I was just going to say, you do
have like.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
A filing cabinet in your closet at home that has
all your comics, yes, neatly filed away.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
It could be in there, your comic books, comic book
So you were a big comic book guy.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I was.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I was the collector of the two of us, because yeah,
then we my parents are still our parents are still
in the house we grew up in New Hampshire and
they've been there since nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Eighty four was something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, so you have Michigan to Boston to New Hampshire.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, was just just yeah, I can live there. We
just flew in there. They just drove up to New
Hampshire an hour away.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now, what happened when you got to newhamp Did you
have like moments where we were like, oh, all of
our friends, we have to make new friends or did
you guys.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Really lean on each other? Were you a little bit
too young?

Speaker 4 (12:39):
We definitely love each other though, I mean we always
have been. We always have had or we always did.
This stopped at some point, like we got married and
stuff where I did. But we had two bedrooms. We
had our own bedrooms, but we each had two beds.
So Josh had a bunk bed in his room and
I had two twin beds in my room. And so
even though we had our own rooms, we would always
just we were always both sleep in one of the rooms.

(13:01):
And I feel like we didn't just decide we were
just the night would end and we'd just go into
one in the rooms.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's so cute. I just went into Allie's room and he.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Hates Yeah, yeah, it was too much for me, But
I know the feeling. It's like, you know, you always
want to, especially when you're only two and a half
years apart, little less like, yeah, that's almost like us.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
My boy slept in the same room and then there
was that moment where the older one wanted his own.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, this is and I should stress this happened
a long time ago. So if you run into Josh
on the street, like you shouldn't tease him about it,
like it's something that just happened. But Josh used to
always sleepwalk and just go to the middle of our
room and just take I just download a huge whiz
on the what.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yeah, I thought I was in the bathroom. Did Yeah,
Sometimes it would be a closet. Sometimes I'd open the
closet door and just pee in the closet.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Does this still happen? Have we graduated from this?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
This is good.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I will say that if there are any young people
listening who have a sibling that does this, I found
out the hard way as well. Don't yell their name.
What they'll do is they'll just turn. They'll turn to
face you.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you got it called it. It's called a peevot.
Spray spray me once. Yeah, shame on you, I think so, Sam,
he wants on you.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
But we did. We but we were always.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
You know again and and uh, because we're so close
with our parents, it did not I don't remember it,
and I'm sure it was, but I don't recall any
trauma about that move and friends or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
What sent you to New Hampshire for your parents? Yeah?
Just my dad's job. His job. What did he do? Yeah?
Would it?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Is it embarrassing that neither Josh or I could probably
explain it.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, when he worked, he worked for a company called
Sri I and we lived in uh, Michigan, And I
don't know what they did. And then he stopped that
company to start a new company called CFX Computer FX.
And they made like I don't know if this is
all they did, but they made like jewelry and T

(15:16):
shirts and things, and the designs were all like micro chips.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So is because he's a hustler, your dad's in the CIA?
You don't really know? I would say the short answer
for what my dad does.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
And again I can't explain it, and it would be
rude of you to ask, is trade finance O very CIA?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
He is not what he seems.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So he would take multiple kuwait really in the eighties yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Oh, yes, he's definitely in the And mom and what
what did mom do?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
She was a French teacher.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
She was a mom for a long time and then
when she went, just when we got old enough, she
went back to work and she was a middle school
French teacher.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Is she French legendary? No, but she is legendary, Josh.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I mean she taught the same uh, you know, public
public middle school system for you know, twenty five years,
maybe longer, may longer.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, there, Josh. And I you know, I would go back.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
I'd be in a grocery store when I would go
home and visit, and people would come up to me
with the gate and face of someone who was about
to recognize you from television, and instead would say, are
you Madame Myerson? Yes, And they would always and they
would always tell you like their French name to say
hello to her.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
They could you tell her that Guillaume Jackson Gillo. Do
you speak fluent French? Both of you? No? She both
had her. No, really, Josh was better, Josh.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
She gave Josh a French award one year because they
would each each teacher would give out like the science
word of it, and she gave it to Josh, which
I thought was pretty shady.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
She claims he earned it. I got some booze and hisses.
How was that happening? Your mom as a teacher, I mean,
how did that work out? It was great? Great, she
was a fun teacher.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Like there were a lot of I mean it's also
it's middle school French, so it's a lot of songs being.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
If you're looking to do some substitute work. And maybe
the other great thing about my mom was we were
also the house that had a lot. We would have
the eight kids sleepover at our house, and so my
parents were sort of like known by all kids. Especially

(17:52):
my mom so a lot, especially when I went through
in sixth grade. She was pre beloved by a lot
of kids. So even the ones that maybe would have
been I don't know, misbehaving for other teachers were more fun.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, and she probably had just had like a different
kind of respect for her because they knew how she Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
That's my house now. It is the it's like the
flop house parties Central. Everyone's there every weekend. I have
eight thousand kids there. My son's fifteen, has a girlfriends
and now all of his friends are at my house.
I wake up in the morning to take the dogs out,
and like two kids are sleeping in the office.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, this is my week. You love it? I
do love it?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
I do.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I do. I have the same thing. I really love it.
I do.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
And it's a safe place for them to be. That
safety thing is a huge piece. I get it, I
sort of.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
I think as I now have kids, I realize, oh yeah,
my parents would much rather have their basement get destroyed
and know their kids were all right, yes, than be lying.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
At that what yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Our parents would also if we'd go to a friend's
house once we were like in high school and maybe
there would be drinking, they would say, sort of point blank,
they would say, like are people going to be drinking?
And you would just say yeah, and it'd be like, okay,
we'll stay there, and that was it. Yeah, yeah, fine,
it's just over.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, don't move around. That's always.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's so different now though, with uber and stuff, you know,
because I have riders riders in college uber bills.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I can't even begin to talk about it. Just wait
till hope that your kids don't want to go to college.
I can't even tell you.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I have to just say I didn't realize how expensive
it was going to be.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's really funny when I because I remember the number
my parents paid.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
We both went.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So my parents met at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois,
and then Josh and I both went there, and I
remember the number because my you know, we're very lucky,
right my parents are parents paid for our school, but
they also my dad wanted us to know how expensive
it was and wanted us to know what a sacrifice
they were making, and that was an important thing for
us to know. You might head, that number still seems

(19:57):
like a big number. I've kind of like frozen it
and not taking it too accountemplation.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, it's not that number anymore. No. No.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Also, I had kids late, so I'm like, it's like
two generations for me.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, No, I mean I went to Boulder for
two years and I called my mom first semester sophomore year.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'm like, I'm wasting your money. I know what I
want to do.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
I got to get out of here because I'm just
I am doing nothing here right now.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
You know, well, you're you're going to die.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
It was everybody, everybody older, everybody is on to just
the leaf anything.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, I couldn't support myself in Bolder. They know they're
they're more hip to it. Just the leaf was not working.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
We've already told the story a thousand times, but I'll
never forget. I started working, so I was just that
I was a total middle child, you know, got a
job at sixteen and clot with at a clothing store.
Was like, you know, making my own way, auditioning, I
got a part. I had some money in the bank,
so Mom just like cut me off. She was like, no,

(21:00):
you you're fine, you know. Meanwhile, I'd hear my mom
organizing a chef for Oliver in college.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I inside was was like what, yeah, but I didn't know,
like it's like food would show up.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It was the craziest experience. I got a knock on
the door sophomore year. We were off campus and it's
this a chef in like a chef outfit with a
plate of some sort of a cast room, Like, Hi,
who are you? This is from your mother. It will
be coming each week with food. I'm like, you're fucking
kidding me. My whole house was of course happy about it,
but it was deeply embarrassing for me. I hate it,

(21:41):
but it was still I mean, just my mom deeply
triggering for me. I wanted got me a chef because
she knew I wasn't eating at college or something.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
To see my parents much like having everybody's house. They
were thrilled because Josh and I were at school together
at the same time. We ever leapt for two years
in college, and so I think that was probably their
happiest Oh that's the best.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So what were you guys like, you know, as kids,
I mean seven nine, but like when you started to
get into middle school, high school, what.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Were you like? Were you always tight? We were always tight?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, but we're very for people
who like look and sound alike and have taken sort
of similar life paths were very different. I think I
was more solitary. Would you sign off on that, Josh?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I liked to kind of be in my room, uh,
doing one other books. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
I was like, I like, like I do all those
sort of like introverty like collected things like baseball cards
and comic books and you know, with organizement, whereas I
felt like Josh was always out being active and Josh
we like like skiing, like biking, liked all these things.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That I sort of did out of So Josh, you
were more athletic.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
I mean, yeah, I guess you could say that, but
I mean Seth was on the track team, but like
I was on the baseball team and track. Yes, it's
there's a team, but it's an individual sort of.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
It's also just it was the only it was one
of the few sports in my high school they wouldn't
cut you from.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
So I was it's just run. Yeah, but I will
say I.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Don't play baseball anymore and you still run, So that's true.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I got that going.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Did you say you have all your tim My books
and baseball cards saved? I mean, did you keep them
through at all?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (23:33):
But I you know, I was definitely buying through that
like inflated boom.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Like I it was like buying like NFTs at the
wrong time. Everybody was buying them, so very little of
what I own, I feel like any same value.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Was it like that Ken Griffy era that that rookie
years It was a little bit earlier.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
It was more like Mark McGuire, right, and like you know,
Roger Clement, Like those were the cards that everybody was covetous.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
But what about the car because I was into comics
for a minute, and there was some really expensive comics
I remember, like X Men one and you know each
there was.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But I feel like, right there there's Image Comics Center.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
You remember that that was like Spawn and then that
kind of was like early nineties, and so every there
were all these new issue number ones, and so everybody
was running to buy God because you had now had
this belief that number ones would always go up in value.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It right, they did. Josh, were you into comics as well?

Speaker 5 (24:28):
No, I wasn't into baseball cards or comics, and Seth
every now and again would sort of suggest. He'd be like, hey,
try this, and I never got into him. I've still
like to this day, I don't know if I've read
a comic all the way through.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
He has. It just never never did it for me.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
It's like people's brains that don't understand math, Like it's
just like, Nope, not going to happen. I feel that
way about comics, Like I open a comic and I'm
just like, I just there's nothing about this that is like.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I was, Josh. It's very tricky Josh with like the
panel structure.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
I remember his kids just being like, no, it just
goes like I understand it. But you as a kid,
you how you're giving yourself too much credit? Now you
were like I don't like this.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
But yeah, then I just like go build a jump
outside and like ride my bike and like take this
jump a bunch of Josh was far more fearless than me,
both physically and also certainly early on as a performer.
Josh was way more likely to audition for things like
school plays.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
And when when did that performance, Jane start to creep in?

Speaker 5 (25:39):
I feel like we always were sort of performing for
our parents when we were really little, Like foot of
the Bed is probably where it all started, the foot
of our parents' bed. Yeah, and then in junior high
the first play I did was Fame, and we uh,
we're from new I'm sure, and not a super diverse state.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And I'll give you.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Well, I just tell you I played Leroy. Probably not
doesn't doesn't age well.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I don't get aged well even in the moment. But yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Think probably based on the diversity of our school, probably
just shouldn't have done Fame.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Probably would have been a good idea that VHS can
just throw it in the.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's what's known now as a classic reverse Hamilton, where
I played a lot of diverse roles with white people.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
You should have done like the Boys of Syracuse or something.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Well, we did My Fair Lady the next year, and
so that that fit a little cleaner funny.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Who were you and my Fair Lady? Were you leading
that to?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
No?

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I was Colonel Hugh Pickering, who has one song and
it's very much a sort of spoken song called you
did it?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Do you remember? I remember who who Henry was? Do
you do you still hold a grudge?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah? John Villaneuve, he was good, John Man.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
He was He wasn't too afraid to sing, and I
was like, I was fine to to like act and
do scenes, but I was always very nervous to sing.
And I'm still nervous to sing a lot of times.
And I think I have a fine voice, but like
karaoke weirds me out sometimes because I don't. I feel
like my voice is better than people that are going

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to be like funny and bad, but not as good
as people who sound like, oh, this person can.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Really see right in the middle middle and yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
And I feel like when people are listening, they're like, oh,
this is kind of I don't. I'm not it's not
funny to me, and it's not really all that.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's not sure how I feel. This is my anxiety.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I have the same thing at karaoke because I actually sing.
So it's sort of like you're You're like, you show
up to karaoke and everybody's like drunk and being silly,
and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I don't know how should I go to that.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do I sing I will always love you, or I
really get it after it? Do I do my runs?
Or do I stay away.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
From the It's really funny, It's true, like you almost
have to read the karaoke room because sometimes maybe it's
a crowd, a sophisticated crowd you can really belt yeah,
or you're like, oh god, do I just half ask
this thing and have a good time?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, classic tween or problem when we're stuck in the
middle and karaoke nobody's.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Happy, that's right, it's a tear.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Everyone just starts literally ignoring you sitting there fires up.
But the go to is then for me, I've learned
that my fallback at karaoke is the duet. So the
dueting then you have like grease, you know, summer loving.
Then you can kind of run lean into being in

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the in between.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Our family karaoke song when my parents and Josh, when
we're all together, we will belt out under Road.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
We feel like that's a good like good Oh yes, yeah,
kind of has.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
A good like scream our song, Raine of sun Roads.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is that our family song?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, the family has never done karaoke like ever to
get that's what friends are for.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, that's when we recorded that in Westwood.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Westwood used to have this thing back in the day,
a recording studio and it was on a tape all
the Yeah, we go there and record weird songs.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, that's fun. That's I mean that thing. I mean,
is that lost or is it just that it's so
easy to record everything? Kids done value about this anyway?
Like I remember we had a friend who had a
VHS tape. Yeah, and you'd go over to his house
and he would just like show like remember my birthday
party two years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Just watch like, oh my god, it's so true.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
No, but but they have that.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
And this weekend, a bunch of wild Wilder is my
oldest bunch of Wilder.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Friends went to downtown LA. They rented a studio.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh fun, and Milo, one of his boys, made a
beat and they all rapped on this, wrote raps and
did an entire song and they played it for me.
So they actually went and did it. I mean it
was crazy to listen to his auto tuned and insane.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
As long as they liked, like putting it together, that's
all the matters. Oh yeah, that they want to make
a thing.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So performing, did performing come first? Or did like the
creating part like when you when you? Because I like,
just as an example, I came out like hot, with
high kicks and like loving a stage, whereas Oliver was
always trying to figure out what the show was or

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what the what the movie was we were going to
make and writing it.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I mean movies every weekend with a friend with filters
and blood and squibs and the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
And she was acting, and I was always like, you know,
tell me who I am.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I mean, I feel like, I don't know if you
think of it as as seminal moment, Josh, but do
you remember the comedy night we did at high school?
The Yeah, I was going to say, the thing we
weren't the organized it was we had a friend I
feel like it was Matt Traxler who did it, and
he just basically went to the school and said, we
have like all these funny kids, we want to do
sketches one night, and it was it was like the

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first massive hit in my life. I was a part of.
Like we sold out the auditorium. It was like on
a Thursday night, and we did a collection of like month,
like I remember Josh and I did a money Python sketch,
but we also wrote sketches about teachers that did way
better than they had any right to do, because it
was all these sort of like C plus B minus
impressions of teachers, but just crushing with kids.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Like crushing.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
And Yeah, there was a talent show called Winter Follies,
and we would enter that and typically do like people
would be, you know, doing a ballet routine, or someone
would have a piano piece that they would play and
have band would come out and we would typically do
a sketch for money Python, and then sort of comedy

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night came about and it was just a full night
of just like sketch comedy and.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So what did you guys want?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Remember what was your favorite money Python?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Steve Martin, like what were your who did you watch
as kids?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
We did the Dead Parrot sketch, which I actually saw
online recently, Like someone has a video of it of us.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
It's incredible. Yeah, like we're incredible good, Like I don't
want but it's uh.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
And we're doing you know, we're doing our British accents
as well.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's uh the best.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
But we did to speak to what you asked, Oliver,
like our dad, like I feel like, always introduced us
to stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I bet it was the same for you. I'm gonna
put my money.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
It was the same for you guys, but like age inappropriate,
Like we were listening to Richard Pryor album Steve Martin albums,
and when you're so what you're starting is listening to
with Steve, you're listening to somebody who's already deconstructing stand up,
like that's your intro. Is somebody who's like looking at
it through a lens of the old way. It was
Hacky and then Money Python. We used to watch it

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would air on PBS and I feel like Sunday nights
at seven and my parents would let us stay up
and watch that, which was such a trip. But those
were and so we I anything that was comedy made
for kids. I remember not liking thinking it was super hacky.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah. For me, it was always something more I mean,
even like SNL. And then and then it was Kids
in the Hall. I remember getting into like Kids in
the Hall.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
And well in Mad TV, right, Josh, you want Mad TV? Yeah? Yeah,
we didn't.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I didn't watch Mad TV much, but yeah, we used
to tape SNL and we would stay up and watch
it when we had like a VHS recorder, and then
we would in the More Wings on Sunday mornings. We
would play the sort of best sketches for our parents.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Were you were you on with Bobby Lee? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I worked with Bobby Lee. Oh yeah, yeah, because he
was on there too. I did a show with him.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You guys, basically you were already you were already writing
an organizing comedy in high school.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And then yeah, and then for me and then eventually
for Josh. Like so, I went to Northwestern and I
was a film major and thought I wanted to you know,
direct make movies. And then New Student Week I saw
the Northwestern improv troop and you know, again it was
just students crushing in front of students, and I just
felt such deep jealousy. I wanted it, so that's all

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I wanted to do. My parents were being so much money,
and I was like, there's this thing. We just make
up stuff off the top of your head based on
suggestions from the audience. You don't even come up with
a success. It's like, it's so easy. It's so easy.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You can't believe. I can't believe how much you're paying
for this. This is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
But that's all I wanted to do, And but it
only I auditioned every year.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I didn't get it till my senior year. Really, do
you remember your auditions?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Like what you had to do? Was it just straight improv?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
And you just it was like straight in like you
would just I mean, it was like and there were
eight there were only eight slots. I don't know what
it's like now, but it was eight capped at eight.
So it wasn't like this giant improv troop. And I
will say that people they cast were always exceptional. It
wasn't like I ever felt like I got jobbed. But
they finally all graduated and I did it my STUDI
year and then Josh, you did it for two years, right, Yeah, yeah,

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but it was great. And then you do that and
you kind of think. I remember being on stage, you know,
at our student union or whatever, and thinking, oh, oh,
I just want to do this until somebody tells me
to stop. I don't have any other plans, yeah, trying to.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I auditioned for the Groundlings one time, and it was
sort of like on a whim, like my friends and
I just said, well, let's go to like audition for
the Groundings. And I went in there and we did
a little thing and then you're supposed to stand up.
You're back to the audience and they shout something like
you're a crazy dentist, or you're this and this and this,
and I get up there and they're like, okay, you're
the king of cheese. And I took it as like

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an Italian guy who was a cheese store rather than
being like a cheesy guy.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I think that's what they wanted. So I turned on.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm like, I got the mozzarella, I got the cheese,
and everyone's staring at me like what does this guy doing.
By the way, that was where I went first, as
well yours.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I think that's a better choice. I didn't get in
no improv. That must have been why you just got
it wrong. Improv for me was like.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
The breakthrough, Like that was what my first improv class
was in high school and we did a semester of
improv and I remember my first improv and I was like, oh,
like that's everything because I felt so free and like
it was like something that didn't I had no fear

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in improv.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
I loved the because I feel like when you do improv,
or when you start getting into it, you know more
about it than your audience does. And when people are
first learning about it, it's like it's magic. It like
like people really have their minds blown. And so if
you're like performing for college students who haven't you know,

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haven't been going down to Second City or Improva Olympic,
and all of a sudden they're seeing sort of their
fellows students like wait, they're they're really they this isn't
written before, Like they're just doing it off the top
of their heads, and yeah, it's crazy, like doing magic.
I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
There's also I like some of the rules for life,
Like I remember the first rule I ever learned in
improv was don't use the word no.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Don't ever gate.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
The problem is you brought that in, you brought that
into your sex life and it didn't It was bad.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
It was all bad. How many kids you said? You
have a thousand.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Different fathers. So he's not wrong. I've learned boundaries.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
It took me. Took me twenty years to get past
that lesson.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
It's so true though, that yes and attitude towards it
is a really good life lesson. And you realize people
want to hang out with you. I mean, I know
my three friends who are the most yes and and
they're the ones you want to travel with. They're the
ones you want to do anything where if something goes wrong,
they just embrace it as a you know, new advantage.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I remember we had a we had this amazing and
again this this is comes from just the blessing that
we've had growing up in the family that we grew
up in. But we took a family trip to Costa Rica.
So here's another good This is this this I can share.
But and we and we ended up running into Robin Williams.

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It was like a weird moment where my mom and
I went to this yoga thing and someone wanted to
show us this place where they did yoga in the
jungle and we walk in there and Robin is just
sitting in this yoga hut and I were like what why.
My mom was like, oh my god. We ended up
having a great time, and Robin and his wife are like,

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when you guys going back? We said Wednesday, and they're like,
we're going back Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Come with us. And they had an airplane.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
So of course my parents were like, yes, we'll go
back with you on your airplane. But we do have
our entire family. They're like, great.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Come. We end up driving down.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
The road to get to Robin Williams plane and there
was a sugarcane strike in the road with big trucks.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Literally it was.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Like you know, it was one It was a one
lane highway, two huge trucks, people cars on the side
of the road, people trying to get around. It was
crazy and now we couldn't get to the other side.
People were trying to call. We didn't have that at
this time. We were young. There were no like cell phones.
So we're trying to find how to get to the airport.

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We're talking to people, we don't speak Spanish. We finally
we finally found one car. Okay, there was one car,
nice car that my mom and Robin's wife went in
and me and Oliver and Kurt and Robin had to
sit in the back for an hour. Sat in the

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back of a pickup truck that one of those small
pickup trucks, right with all the luggage and all of
us sitting on top of this pickup truck. And Wyatt,
who at the time was like baby five, yeah, is
sitting in between this Costa Rican you know, Maria farming
farmer family in the cab with the with the man

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driving and the wife and little Wyatt with his little
white head. And Robin was so mad because this was
not you know that what ended up happening.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
In order to turn it around, we saw it happen.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
We got a forty five minute stand up in the
back of this pickup truck.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
He couldn't stop.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
And he just it was like why, I mean talk
about watching a master in a natural element of like
I am so not having happy right now that the.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Only thing I can do right last is last.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
And he made a joke about Wyatt and his new
family where his new life, and he just kept going
and going going, and I was like, oh my God,
like that again. Here was another inspirational moment for me
where I was like, there's nothing better than taking a
stressful moment and being able to create what he created

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for us in the back of this little pickup truck
in nineteen ninety Yeah five.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Wow, I haven't thought about that a long time. I'm
not wild.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Are you guys critical of each other? Critical of your
comedy growing up? Were you able to sort of talk
about that's good, that's bad, you could be better here,
you know?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Or was you just just go just roll?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
We I think we're pretty we were not very critical.
And then after college we both worked. We overlapped, not
for very long, but we worked together in Amsterdam. These
Chicago guys started an improv comedy theater Insidom called Boom Chicago, and.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
So we overlapped there.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
I directed some shows Joshua was in, but I never
I do think when it comes to taste, that's probably
where josh and I align the closest, and so it's
very rare for us to have super divergent opinions. And
I also think we're pretty hard on ourselves stage, so
it would be rare for one of us to come
off and be like fucking killed it, and at anything,

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we're more a cheerleader for each other than the other.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
But are you are you? Is it?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Can you say to Josh? And Josh said, Seth, like
you know that you know it wasn't great?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Or does it? Does it even need to be said?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
It does feel like if you if it doesn't also
if it doesn't go well. I feel like the biggest
example of this is like Seth's done a lot of
stand up now and if he gets off and it
hasn't been a good show, which I don't know if
I've seen one that hasn't been good, but he feels
it more than I do. I feel like the performer
knows if it's like this is a hot room or
this isn't. And I feel like my I might make

(43:43):
suggestions for things, but I would never I wouldn't be
like cut all this, like nothing's working here. It might
be like maybe try this, maybe try this. But I
feel like we try to be additive more than.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Than like and I will say all this or I
was doing Josh was coming to shows before I did
my Netflix special. He was I was doing practice hours
and Josh was coming and meeting me on the road
and coming, and I think though again he would pitch
jokes that was really helpful. But it's true, like you,
I certainly have a tendency to remember the best a
joke is gone, and so I would walk off and

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say I feel like this, this, this, And Josh was
great at being like, oh no'm I've seen the last
six like they are consistent shows.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Like it's not.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
I know you're hearing these different levels, but like, if
you're aiming, which I was, if you're aiming to be
consistent by the taping your special like this is all.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well, let me ask you a question as far as
as far as stand up goes.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
You know, it's all kind of a weird one to answer,
but how much of it is the performer and how
much of it is the audience? Meaning taking that joke,
let one joke, whatever that is, You've you've been consistent
with that joke, But there's different levels. So are we
now blaming the audience when it doesn't go well?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
So that's the thing. I think.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
The reality is some audiences are quieter than others. I'm
not blaming them, they just sound quieter. But my problem
is I always blame mysel else even though I think
sometimes it's just an audience is like less electric not
and I'm not blaming them, but you just like what
I think, it's impossible not to be.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Like what had I screwed up? Right? It always works?
And then sometimes it just something that must.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Be so interesting, because I mean, I think the hardest
thing in the world is stand up comedy because like
for me, when I'm on stage, it's almost like I
black out, like I just go and then I get
off the stage and you're sort of like, was that okay?
Like I you know, how was it? Like it's hard
for me to gauge. But I guess if you're doing

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something consistently every night, which I haven't done for since
high school basically, but like then I guess you're you've
a little bit more awareness, like you become your own
witness a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
The shock value's gone too where you're likesh, you haven't
done it.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, you know the fun It's weird though, Like how
one of the most dangerous things is you get too
used to a joke, you know, one that always works,
and then you without knowing you're doing it, you fall
out of love with it or you just start assuming
it's going to work without actually connecting with it as
you say it right, and like that's the you know,

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the great the fun thing about doing a the Late
Night Joe is it's different every night, so you don't
have to worry about like it's all in a good
way and a healthy way disposable. Like if a joke
doesn't work, you don't have to worry about how am
I going to fix it because you're just going to
tell a different one tomorrow. Whereas with stand up you
do want to refine it and make it tighter and
tighter with while also keeping it fresh because you have
to the audience knows it's not the first time you're

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doing it, but they want to They want to feel
like it's the first time you're saying it, so that's
part of the performance as well.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Do you I mean, we asked this question a lot,
especially with you know, siblings that do the same thing.
Is that challenge? Does that ever pose a challenge? Is
there ever moments that become challenging for you guys when
one you know in one like I always say, Oliver,
Oliver always, did you ever get jealous? Or is there
ever moments of like, you know, envy, envy.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
I mean Seth's had the rare sort of good fortune
to have like two jobs, one of which ran for
like fourteen years something like that long twelve and then
this next one who knows when that will end? And
I just feel like in you know, I live in
LA and it's you sort of you get a job

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sometimes and it's like great, I got a job, and
maybe you work for a month and then it's like,
well that job's over, got to go find another job.
So the sort of the inconsistency of work, yeah, yeah,
as a drag, But I don't know that it's It's
not like spiteful envy.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
It's just like, oh it must be nice, must be nice.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, the security Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
No, But I love that you admit that, you know,
because we asked this question a lot, and like every
single person.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Except for who is it Chad low No. Chad was
like oh yeah, everyone's like no, of course, not like
it's all support.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Like I know there's support, but where you know, but
Chad was Chad Lowe was like, yeah, are you.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Fucking kidding me?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I wish I was Rob low I mean, what are
you talking about? We also I mean, I don't.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I mean again, if you see us up closed, I
don't think we like are identical or anything, but we
certainly it's gonna be one of the real hurdles of
our podcast.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Guys, who's talking you got to put to you gotta
change your voice. You got to change. Yea, we might tweak.
We might have to tweak a voice, that's true, But
you've got it. Josh, You've had an amazing crib because.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
You work with all these amazing comedians.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
And do you ever do do you ever do any
writing rooms? Do you like to write?

Speaker 5 (48:42):
I do like to write, and like and Seth and
I have written a couple of things you know that
we've sold that haven't turned into things.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
But but Seth took all the credits.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Nice to be in that space, and uh, you know,
obviously not writing anything at the moment with the strike,
but that was a trap.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, yeah, we are undercovers right ail, And yeah, but
I haven't really gone into writers rooms.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I had sort of.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
It's a it's a mild regret of mine or you know,
you try to let these things go. But because I've
been an actor, I was always worried about getting into
a writer's room and then not being able to get
out of a writer's room and get back onto a set.
And so but now I look back and it was like, well,
that was like dumb. I should have put that foot forward,

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you know, ages ago, and then you know I would
sort of I would be more familiar with those rooms,
or I would know more of those people, or I
could you know, get those jobs. And now I feel
like if I were to go into a writer's room,
I would be kind of new in that situation and
also old in that situation to be the new person.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Uh so, yeah, so I feel like we need more
older writers in writers' rooms.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Yeah, but there's there they've and they've always been in
writers They're just old. I'm just so bummed when when
when that moment, uh, where your older brother starts talking
your younger brother starts talking about how he's older, and
you're like, sure, what I there he is.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
You guys just just start melding together. You guys are so.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You know, well rounded with each in your relationships. Like
where is there any tension or is there at all?
I mean, do you guys butt heads? Is there certain
situations or issues that come up where you know, there's
some No, No, I mean I feel like we've I mean,
one thing is we've been on the opposite coasts for
you know, twenty years.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
You know, the last place we lived together was Amsterdam,
and that's a really long time ago. But you know,
I will say, like, I mean, we've written things together
and I really enjoyed the process. But I think that
you know, kind of way is where the rubber meets
the road. We've had disagreements there, but pretty affable disagreements.
I don't think it's been We've never really had to
get into it.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
And you guys are literally on different coasts.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Now that's hard, Yeah, but we have been for twenty years,
so we're kind of used to it.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
How long were you in Amsterdam?

Speaker 5 (51:13):
I was there for three and a half years total. Wow,
and said I was there two year and a half.
I mean there two years, but I would go back
a lot.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah. I didn't even know there was a place there.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I didn't even know Chicago had an improv there.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
They still they start.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
It's just these guys they started their own sort of
use the second city model, and they're actually this summer
they're having the thirtieth anniversary of the theater, which is nuts.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Did you have a blast? I mean it was so fun. Yeah,
it was the best.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Oh god, it was somebody somebody sent me a picture
recently of like the cast in two thousand and there's
so many of us and like just so many.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Like all star performers. Yeah, it was like it was great.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Oh my god. I mean not that we don't love
our lives now.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
I love my kids, I love it all, and you know,
but when you when you reflect and you go back
to that time, it's just like, holy shit, that was it.
Oh and to be like to be twenty, yeah, twenty
in Amsterdam and like doing sketch, stand up, doing comedy, improv, commy.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I mean, holy Jesus.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
We also we were right before the euro so we
would still get paid. They would pay us in cash
and with guilders, which looks like you can't fucking believe
it was legal tender.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It's the goofiest.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Money, an envelope of goofy, colorful money, and none of
it felt like the idea of like saving it.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
It would sound it insane.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
So you would just burn through the cash every week
and then you do more shows and get more cash
and again Josh Josh said, like, it's also all of us.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You know, the whole cast was Americans.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Everybody came over and we got to be really close
and continue to be really close. That thing where you
move abroad and you get to strip away everything you
don't like about yourself and just keep the things you
do like and start fresh with a new group of people.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And I'm so so happy I did it.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I know, is there any way to do that now
at our age, to strip away everything that we don't
like about ourselves?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Is it possible and start getting an earfull from your
wife and kids?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Is this I think it is.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I think it's always available. The energy in Amsterdam is
one of the great It's one of the great places
in the world.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
For my honeymoon, always part of the honeymoon. It was great.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
We were years and years ago seth ran the hell
Sinky Marathon.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
We went to yeah wait wait wait wait.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Wait wait back up running in a hell sinky marathon.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Literally ran it. The dream of it.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Yeah, I ran, I finished, I ran and finished the
Hellthinky Marathon.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You can look it up online. When you say that
you finished it, is that a joke? Yeah? I mean
I was for our you know, pun savvy listeners.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
But we did sort of a we did a great
trip leading up to it, where we went to like Copenhagen,
we went to Stockholm, then we went to Helsinki and
we were in these great cities and then we got
we did like three days in Amsterdam on the heels
of it, and we got to Amsterdam. It was just like, yeah,
we those are incredible cities that we just went to.
But there's just something about Amsterdam. It's so small, it's

(54:24):
so quaint and like to be on those canals.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh and the townhouses and you see people inside at
night like doing things and hanging out.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, Oh, I just love it. They don't close their curtains.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
If they close their curtains, there's like a cultural thing
there and it's like, well, if you close your curtains,
what are they doing behind there? Yeah, And so you'll
see like you'll see naked people all the time, just
walking around, like from their bathroom to their bedroom because
they're like if I close these it'll be scandalous. So
I'll show you I'm just naked going to the shower
and then I'm gonna go put some clothes on.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Will say that when you get older, Alli, because it
is like we're going back. I'm going back this summer
and I'm talking to like people from my generation. And
it was so it's both wonderful and sad that we
all were talking about Now it's no late nights at
the clubs.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
It's like, I just want to get coffee any morning. No, yeah,
I want to get my yea.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You want your little Waffel crisp in your coffee.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, It's so true, Like I go to bed looking
forward to my coffee in the morning.

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Speaker 1 (57:17):
I love all this, Like you know, it's a different
generation of funny too. I have to say, it's just
it's like a totally I think. I think humor is changing.
I wonder what that next generation of comedy is going
to really look like.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I just worry there's not enough comedy. That's theirs and
theirs alone. It feels like there's so much, so many
fewer comedy films, right, and yeah, I feel like kids
are watching the Office, and which is great. You know,
they're watching Friends. Those shows are great. But I'm wondering
where their shows are because I do feel like, yeah,

(57:52):
have something that's not also your parents.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, like writer writers watches The New Girl. He loves
like the New Girl. Like there's they do that watch
all of.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Our old It's all streaming now everything everything is back,
you know, so these shows are there's so few.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
I mean, I would say we did like we were
watching Money Python, which wasn't That's a fair point and
faulty towers like that.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
For us.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
I just hope our kids are funny. That's all I
just want. I just think it's it can be very
tortuous when you know, uh, the funny gene, but at
the same time it gets us through everything. I think
it got us through some really like hard dark moments
and to like be raised in a funny house where

(58:39):
we're able.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
To oh my self deprecations is covering all my pain. Jesus.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
The way I get through life.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I just have to put myself down so no one
else does first get there.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
He ye, I learned to stop. I've just that I graduated. Okay, Well,
let's do our speed round.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Okay, great, okay.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
One word to describe Oh, you guys have to say
the names of each other because or your own name
before you talk, because you guys. Sounds so much like okay,
one word to describe the other. This is supposed to
be a speed round.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm just gonna I believe that Josh is fearless. Wow.
I believe that Seth is is loving?

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Oh yeah, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
What about at thirteen, Josh was permie.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
That means you have a perm It wasn't a perm
it was about voom, and Seth was husky.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Did you really have a vom? Yeah? I had above them.
I was I think by Lrel.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
I was a poster of a place where I got
my haircut, and I was like, I want one of that.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
A that is a tough U.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
That is a tough day to walk into school when
one day your hair was like flat as a pancake
and the next day it's like boing boying curly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That he's fearless, he's fearless. Yeah, is he more fearless
than you? You think as far as just comedy goes,
as far as putting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Yourself everything, everything's everything? Yeah, yeah, I mean he does
stand up. Stand up spooks me, So I haven't done
uh nearly as much of that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Why do you think you do? I think it spooks
you though, Like you know, you're funny.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Because it's just like because versus h improv. You're just
getting up on stage and you're like, I wrote these jokes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Aren't these jokes funny?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
And I feel like there's some presumptuousness about that that
and like and I've I've tried it a couple of times,
like here and there, and it like when it doesn't
go well, I am deeply affected.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I don't think, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Seth, you're not meaning if you bomb, you you're you
can You're okay with it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
I've tried to put myself in a position where I
don't bomb a lot, right. I will say the last
time I really bombed was I hosted Rihanna's Diamond Ball
and it just wasn't let's just say it wasn't my room.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Oh yeah, how bad?

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
My wife My wife was there and my wife is
incredibly supportive. And I do a lot of charity events
in New York and my wife is on there. And again,
charity events, in my nature go worse than if you're
in a theater. Yeah, for your audience. And so every
time I sit down, she'll be like, oh, that one
really well. Because I'm like, was that okay? She's like,
oh that one well and a diamond ball I sat down,
she was like, that was a real disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
With that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
First of all, those are those are look like you said,
charity events are tough rooms anyway, because it's it's always
in a loud, weird place where like the ceilings are
super tall, and like it's not super it's not like
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Also, just imagine the coolest, youngest people who are about
to get Rihanna and they're like, and now the comedy
styling step.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You knew what you were getting into, though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Look, if there's anybody I'll follow my sword for Rihanna
regrets about the evening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Definitely a very very cool room.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
So like, I don't think Otell Beckham was like, oh great, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
One word to describe your relationship close, yeah, tight, favorite thing,
favorite show to watch as a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yes, I know, Cheers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Here's the thing too, I was actually thinking about this
the other day. Sitcoms used to be really incredible. I mean,
if you look at Cheers, they were all theater actors,
the writers were incredible. I mean, if you watch the
way it's even shot, it's just different. Why can't we
try to get back to that and go to the
standard sitcom? I was just with Jim Burrows actually at

(01:03:10):
a golf tournament and pitching him this idea and and
and of course I was drank like eighty tequilas and like,
come on, bros, like let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And he didn't bite. He didn't bite. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
But yeah, but but I mean, what happened. Do you
think there's a way back to that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I don't know. I'm a little worried.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I will currently say my, uh my, my current situation
about everything is a little worried.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
We're talking about shows, I know. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
The other thing is like, you did have to do
a bunch of pilot I mean they used to shoot
a bunch of pilots. They'd take a bunch of swings, yeah,
and they'd find and even then they didn't you know, again,
the hit rate wasn't great, but they did it was
lots of the idea was like, let's try a bunch
of stuff and then eventually we'll get a Cheers or
a friends.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Or and they were looking for family. They were looking
for adults and for kids to watch together, and they
don't do that anymore because everything's so compartmentalized.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, it's like this is for kids.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
And I weirdly my you know, I always try to
explain to my wife that, like I know the I
from a wide chot, watching TV is not great for
kids to just sit around and watch TV. But like,
we did watch TV together as a family, and it
was the best. Cheers together was super fun and brought
you closer together.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I'm sorry this happened this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
It was me and Bing and Ronnie and Danny sitting
in the living room and we decided to watch something
together but we could only see it on the spectrum map,
which had commercials. And now we're watching this thing with commercials,
and I realized we hadn't sat down and watched a
show with commercials.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
It's maddening, and we had so much fun though, ye
in between them, we're supposed to be fun.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
I the other night, I had friends over to watch
a basketball game, and then after the game, we were
like still hanging out and it wasn't really that late,
and we put on the end of a Wheel of
Fortune and we watched like ten minutes of Wheel of Fortune.
It is so much fun. And then we watched Family Feud.
We watched a half hour of Family Food and it

(01:05:16):
was like it was a delight. And we were watching
commercials and it was like it was a like chunk
of television that I never watched, but that was so familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
So yeah, it's so nice pleasant, like it really was.
And then you'd kind of talk during the commercials and
you talk about what you're watching, and then yeah, don't
know that I wish we could.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Bring I would be very worried if I was TikTok
right now. Television. Okay, wait, we have to keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Okay, okay, who is the louder?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Laugh? Oh? Me? Me? Oh okay, yeah? Who laughs.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
It's always fun there with my mother is when she's
in the audience of Seth's show. There's usually a couple
moments when you can pick her laugh out and it's
always really fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Though she always she laughs at everything. She is a
very forgiving audience. And I remember during one time at SNL,
I told a joke on wee Get Update where literally
she was the only person who laughed, And the next
morning Josh text me, at least Mom liked that one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Did you acknowledge it on the show or no? I
did not?

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
I think that was my career where I was too
afraid to acknowledge. Now my own show, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Do you remember people like every every person that was
on SNL, Like, do you remember I mean the host,
like each host? Or do you does that after a
while start to like get muddy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I feel like an SNL Yes, to some degree, it
gets a little muddy, But if you talked about the week,
I would remember something, Whereas it's a lot harder when.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
You have a talk show. I remember, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Because wait, SNL, you do spend a whole week, so
you feel like you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Have are you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Are you creatively fulfilled in your talk show? I know
you love it, but like so I love it. I'm
so creatively fulfilled. I love it so much.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
It's a perfect second act to all the years I
spent at SNL.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But I'm one hundred percent it's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
So you doing anything else, how could you not be envious?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I mean it's the best. I am. I have everything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Meanwhile, my brother he likes to work job summer and
then I followed it up maybe the second best job.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Amazing. It's definitely going to be our clips. Like you
and I will start a talk show buddy me and you.
I need it to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Okay on only fans though, all right, that's where the
money's at.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
And so the money is that I'm telling you we
can be really funny. We could have our own talkshowan OnlyFans.
We call it family feud, right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
According to your parents, who do you think they'd say
broke the most rules as a kid, Seth?

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yeah, I would say Seth as well, really because.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
You but you were like more in your room organizing comics.
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I feel like though I would, I would.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
I think they would count stuff like fully lying about
report card stuff. I was maybe more of just a
dead eyed liar.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Yeah, there was, like there was famously because Seth would
Seth would get in trouble for things and I wouldn't.
And there was a night when I went and slept
over at this girl's house with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
A bunch of people.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
We slept at Molly Suiter's house, but I always would
go spend the night at my buddy Randy Suazow's house,
like on the regular with Tim O'Brien and Tim Wilson,
and we would be at Randy Swazows.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
And for what a reason, this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Morning, Tim O'Brien's dad needed Tim O'Brien to come home
to help him move a table, and so they called
our house early in the morning, like on a Saturday,
and they were like, yes, Tim there, and my parents
were like no. And then the parents started calling around
and figuring out, like they're not at any of these
houses that they're supposed to be at, and Seth like

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woke up to come downstairs because he heard all these
phone calls and like where's Josh, And he knew I
was going to get in trouble, and he came down
to sit at the kitchen table for me to come
in and try to lie to my dad and then
get caught and then get grounded.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And then Seth went right back up to bed, and
I was like, yes, he just wanted to witness it
to happen. Well, that's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
What about What about your first celebrity crush? Oh, Josh
was just talking about this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Yeah, Pat Benattar was my first celebrity crush.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Oh that's a really good one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
I broke my leg skiing and it was when MTV
had just come out, so I was spending a lot
of time in the condo or the hotel room.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
And yeah, she really she got me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
She got mea Sarah but she she was the actress
in Ferris Bueler.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Oh my, that's a that's a very popular one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Phoebe k I loved her. Yeah, she was great, she
was great. Where is she now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Where is she now? If your brother was an animal,
which one would he be? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
No, an otter?

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Oh I was gonna say, I don't know. I have
kapy Bara in my head for some reason. The world's
largest rodent. It's almost like a bear like rodent.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
This keeps getting more flattered, like a husky rodent, a beard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Usually the people conducting the speed round aren't this slow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
We edit you know, wait till you wait till it's
gonna fly, It's gonna be like crazy. It's like at
a one point five speed, it's like nothing here, who's
more athletic?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I think Josh is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I'm I can just like run in a straight line
for longer, but Josh is more athletic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Mm hmmm, yeah, I think that's I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
When there's turning you want, Josh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Your parents equally think you're funny? Or do they? Do they?

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Who do your parents think is the funny? Do they?
I mean? I know they would never.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
I think that's pretty equal. I would, I would definitely,
I would definitely say that's equal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yeah, and we'd like, you know, when you get together
with your families, you sort of play your roles, and
I sort of feel like I lay in the grass
and wait to strike.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
You do. I'm a bit of a Dave's stats And
in that way, are you are? I'm just desperate for
my father's approval? Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Are you? I don't know where he is exactly. Are
you self deprecating?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Josh? Do you have self deprecating humor? Is that part
of your thing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, I
think you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Like I do play off with the idea that, like,
you know, everyone's more famous and more successful than me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
I don't know that it's too close to home, but yeah,
you should try it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
So this is we always end each episode with these
two questions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
The first part.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Is, if there's anything that you could kind of take
away from your sibling to relieve them of any kind
of stress or something in their life that you think
would be really good for them and help them live
their best life? What would that be? And then the
second part of the question is what is the one

(01:12:58):
thing that you wish you had more of, that you
wish you could emulate that your sibling a characteristic that
your sibling has.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
I mean, one of the reasons why I'm always trying
to find a way for us to collaborate because I
just feel like both of our lives would be less
stressful if we had more of a professional reason to
spend time with each other because being on opposite coast,
you know, it's like we talk on the phone and whatnot,
but we just don't have much reason to interact because

(01:13:28):
we don't see each other as much as I'd like.
So I feel like that would be a nice stress
reduction for both of us to just have something to
do together, which is, you know, to be honest, one
of the reasons why you know, we thought a podcast
would be a good idea. It certainly seems like you
guys are enjoying each other's company.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Mm hmm. It's really coming across over the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
How often do you guys actually see each other three
times a year? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I bet a little more, Yeah, I think more.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Well, then you're gonna have you started doing the podcast
as yet?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
We recorded a couple episodes. We haven't released anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Movie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
You're gonna love it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
I mean I think that Oliver and I the thing
that we just it was like having the idea, but
then the actual it's just fun.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
But but but I think what we got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
The most out of it was that it made us
have to be together and share with each other, and
it's like reminiscing over old stories or talking about what's
going on in that day, things that we would have
never actually communicated about. Like he could come in all
stressed out about something and I'm like, what's going what's
going on? That conversation would have never happened if we

(01:14:38):
didn't have our podcast, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
So I think you guys are gonna fun well.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Yeah, so each episode is a different guest where we
sort of just and the nice thing too, is you know,
we're using family trips is that jump off, But it
is just a way to talk to people about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Their their families and their siblings.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
And yeah, you know, I mean most people the prison
company expected, except you know, it didn't grow up with famous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Yeah, Like when you're a kid, also, everything seems amazing.
Like the first time we ever had a joining hotel room,
it was like, oh my god. Yeah, and like it's
just it's easy to have your jaw dropped by something
when you're six.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
It's like every kid, I feel like, you know, every
kid in America probably was like on their way to
a private playing with Rob Williams when a sugarcane strike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
All right, wait, oh wait, we gotta do the other one,
the other one. Okay, So what is what is this something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
About your brother that that you wish you had to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Yeah, to emulate, something that you would love to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Have more of for yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
I mean I would love that, uh, that ability to
sort of to the stand up sort of gene.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
I would like that more that that ability to to
just let go of that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Fear and go out and know that you'll probably you'll
be fine at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Yeah, it's funny because Josh the same way with Kate,
you know. I mean yeah, because I feel like like
we're both performers. But that's sort of something that I
just I can't. I can't put myself in the game.
And that's what you have to do, is you have
to put yourself in the game. You have to call
your own number. And I just like, I have a
file on my phone called stand up and like when

(01:16:27):
I scroll down, it goes on and on and on,
but I don't, like I haven't been on stage.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
To do it in years. You got to do it, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
But the other thing is like when you talk to
stand ups, they're always like, well, you just got to
go out, like you got to do like, you know,
three sets a night, six nights.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
A week, And I'm like, couch and my girlfriend and
the dog, and like what about those things that I love?
This So it all goes back to our only fans.
I'm telling you, we can do anything we want, anything
we want. And by the way, ten ninety nine a month,
who knows it could blow up huge?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Okay, but you have to do what you would emulate
from Josh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
I can't figure out a way to phrase this and
I'm making it sound pretentious, but I feel like Josh
is far more connected to the natural world than I am.
And I know he was just talking about being on
the couch, but Josh is always I feel like the
amount of times I check in with him and he's
on him he's hiking, or he's skiing, or he's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Out doing I think like he like.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
My appreciation of what LA is is so tiny compared
to what Josh has discovered in his years there. As
far as that aspect, when I'm with Josh, he often
forces my hand to go outside and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Do things I would never do on my own.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
And those are days where I'm just I mean again,
being outside doing things, being physical, You're always happier.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
So that is a thing that I've always appreciated. I
love that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
And Josh, what is one thing that you wish you
could kind of alleviate for your brother as well being
and be like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Take my children, Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Take them, take them for a year in general stress
if I yeah, I feel like if I could take.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
If if for one day a week, I could take
his his wife and all of her family away just
somewhere nice. I love them very close to that, I
really do. But they are they are everywhere, and you're
in the present. Yeah, yeah, And there's a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Them, and they they descend like locusts, but loving locusts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
You know how many? You know how many?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
There are?

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
One more than you remember.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
That's how they get you. You think you got all
your bases covered. And there's old old cousin weirdo.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
But I will say, you know, Seth doesn't. He's not
often in my apartment in La but when he comes here,
he's like he's like here to do press for twenty
four hours, and he might have like a couple hours.
He can come over and we're gonna watch a game,
or we're gonna grab dinner or something like that, and
he'll lay on the couch and I just I let

(01:19:25):
him sleep because he can fall asleep at the drop
of a hat. And I always want him to be comfortable,
and I want him to be able to like get
that rest that he won't get anywhere else. And I'm
happy to just like pull out my book like chill
out music and just let him let him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Josh will deliver a tequila soda, some pretzels, a little
bit of hummus. It's very I get treated very well,
ah in my brief moments.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
And my brother that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
So you actually already actively do alleviate some of your
brothers me he what he needs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Well, you guys are the best. This was so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I'm so happy we find you guys to be able
to do this. I can't wait to listen to your podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
I know this was a real I mean, this is
so fun to do. But also what an education is.
We're about to embark on our ound. You guys lay
out a beautiful blueprint. This is so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Oh thanks, you honestly have a blast. I mean, you're
gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Well, what we found was that when people when you
talk about family, when you really get into the ins
and outs of whether it be the great times or
the really challenging times, especially with siblings, it's so relatable.
Not too many people talk about the sibling relationship. Yes,
important one and it's so important.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
And you guys cry in front of each other. We
have are you criers in generally?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
You guys, we're hoping the plan is to cry two
three times. I thought you should. That's what we do.
It helps. It helps with loads.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
If you want to hear us crime more, hit subscribe.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
We just got the data back. Big spikes on the
crime well from one Sibling team to the other. You guys,
thanks so much. Yeah, thank you guys. Appreciate it. Thank you.
This is a blast. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Producer is Alison, President, editor is Josh Wendish.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
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