February 7, 2025 • 35 mins
Oliver and Kate touch base with Brenda Song after the LA Wildfires. What they fear will happen to the Palisades moving forward, and why that town may never be the same.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I want to say that you're in Toronto and you
just started a movie with your son. We'll get into
that later, but because the beautiful Brenda song is waiting
for us in the waiting room. Yes, but I'm so excited.
How does it feel to be working? Is it weird?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
No, it's good. Second awesome. Silverstone, she's amazing, she's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You know, she works with Nicole.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, I know, I know, and she's so nice and
so sweet. Wilder's doing great, you know, he's very natural,
very cool. He's finding his footing. But you know, it's
just it's not easy to be thrown into this world
on a set with a million people, never having done
it before ever, and he's handling it really, really well.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, and he hasn't spent much time on set like
when we were kids, we spent a lot of time
on movie sets.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, they're kind of over it. In the beginning, it's
like yay craft service. And then now, you know, where
as the kids are older, like we don't want it's
boring as fuck, like we don't want to go. Yeah,
we loved it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for him. It's like such
a great.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's so fun. But he's still a teenager. Meaning I
had this idea, right I literally created like a montage
in my head where we're going to be here and
we're gonna like play music inst by the fire and
watch movies. It's going to be in my bed.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I want to get into this with Brenda.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're going to get our lines and we're going to
do this, you know, and it's like beautiful music playing.
We hug at the end of the night and say
see you later, son, see you later, Dad. I can't
wait to wait, you know. And literally it's like what's up,
goes up to his room and the door closes. Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know he really is such a team.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah yeah, that way.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Rider will talk to me all night long. I have
to like get I have to like pry off the
phone with him. I'm talking to I gotta go. Yeah, like,
I know, mom, Mom, No, sweetie, I know you're in college.
You're twenty one, can you We got to get off
the phone.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
All right, let's bring it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I just want to say, yeah, I'm excited because Brenda
song we're starting. This is actually the initial first thing
that I'm doing with a castmate to promote our show
Running Point and on Netflix, comes out on the twenty
seventh of February, and I'm I'm so excited because she
(03:02):
plays my bestie and my chief of staff on the show,
and she's phenomenal and now we get to like, you know,
delve deep into her psyche yes, which.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is going to be very interesting. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm so excited. I am so good. I'm good. I mean,
it's been crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I was about to say, are you Are you okay?
Is the house okay? Are the kids okay?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Everybody's great, everybody's fine. The house made it luckily. But
it's been really it's been like peaks and valleys, like
just so sad and so scary, and then it's like
you kind of and there's these like lulls of like
what's happening? And then you go and you see it
(03:49):
and it's just so devastating, Like the whole thing is. Yeah,
it sucks, but it really is interesting to see what
happens to a community in a time like this because
you realize like how strong the people are in it,
and it's really amazing to watch that, I have to say,
(04:09):
has been like the thing that's come out of.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
This the most is like people who've lost everything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And how they're handling it and and and like how
they're just one day at a time and with you know,
having lost everything, it's just wild, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, no, it's it's horrible. It's sad. But at the
same time, I'm wondering when it's okay to post something
funny on Instagram again, like ol. But I'm saying, like
this is my dilemma, Like there's so many things I
want to say and have fun and now I'm like,
is it too So can I yet?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I was thinking about this rap song that I
have recorded. I have it and it's you, your rap
song about growing up in the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh God, and you and you.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Say you even say all the stores in it, like
you talk about all the different places in it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's actually like maybe we can do something, Yes, we
can do something charitable with this, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
What I mean, where are you all and where are
You're not in the You're not in.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The West Side, right, No I am. I'm in Brentwood.
I was right on the line of evacuation. I'm in
Toronto right now. I'm working in Toronto. So I have
yet I haven't had time to even process any of it. Yeah,
and I think there's a part of me that is
doing that on purpose. You know. I have a boat,
you know, a fish and I love my boat. And
I took it along the coast and I hugged the
(05:38):
coast and went all the way up, so I got
to see it from that perspective. And now, honestly, that
was the first time that I was able to sort
of take in the scope of it and finally feel
like emotional, you know, because it was unbelievable to see.
And this is where we grew up. Yeah, you know,
I mean we for forty plus years we were here
(05:58):
and it's it's all fucking gone. So at the same time,
you know, all we can do is is just is
move forward and try to help out as much as
we can. And then and I think I'm just going
to post something fun just because I think I got
to break the ice. I want to do something.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's a weird thing. It's a it's a real grieving
process of like it's but it's not a human. It's
a place and so like it like like the like
when you're grieving a death of a person. It's sort
of like it comes at you at weird moments, like
my ex has a house and the palisades and the
alphabet streets and it's literally the only house standing.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And he sent me these videos.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, he sent me videos and I it was there
was it was weird because it was like looking at
it was almost unimaginable when you're looking at it.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then and then he.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Drove by the place where we always go and it's gone,
and like our little yogurt shop that we take the
kids like every night, you know things and tomming, all
things is gone and it just like just like I
just started to ball.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, you have your routines in your life and the
people that work there, and.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Kay did love topics. I love.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
People are like what are you doing in that?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
In like a billion of time, it was here's the
thing I my best friends grew up in the Palisades.
So I spent most of my teenage and twenties going
to the Palisades and also being from the valley. Every
time I went to visit, I was like, I'm bringing
an overnight bag I would spend. It's just so hard
because one of the most beautiful things about the Palisades
and that whole area is the community. Like I feel
(07:36):
like it was a place where we would walk down
a cafe vita and we would run into just like
twelve different people that we hadn't seen in a while.
Everyone is the community. They're so beautiful. The hardest part
and of the most beautiful thing is seeing the resilience
and the strength of a community and all the people
who live there how much they love being there. And
I think that's one of the hardest things is I
always tell people who come to LA, if you find
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the area that you love, and you find that that
community that you love, that's what LA is about, because
you can find so many different kinds of communities here,
and that the Palisades was so special, and you know,
and I think it'll be stronger and better.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's just so it's just so hard.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I couldn't imagine growing up there and you know, it's
just not being I still feel so crazy. We were
there the Sunday before everything happened. It was like I
was like, it's just it's just feels so surreal. But
that being said, it's like it's just weird to like
be continued, like life just moves on.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's so I know, And it's also I also was
thinking about though, like the one thing that where the
Palisades had so much magic, and I think all Tadna
feels the same way as there's a lot of generational families,
So like there's a lot of people in the Palisades
that aren't you know, like don't make the kind of
(08:50):
have the kind of means that say I do you know,
or a lot of people did they sort of inherited
their homes, they live there, they're still on, you know,
And I think the thing for the Palisades communities actually
making sure that all of those people can still afford
to go back to their house and rebuild instead of
(09:11):
having to sell. And I think that that one of
the things that made the Palisades kind of internally is
that we knew families there that are generational families that
we all grew up together.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Even though it's a very different kind.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Of set of means and and Altadna, it seems like
it's the same thing. But I think there that you know,
there's a lot of people who have the ability to
rebuild in the Palisades. Where's an Alta Dina. You know,
when you think about like how to help and how
to rebuild, like where where those resources are.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Going to me?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's all I can think about, is like, you know,
the resources need to be going to the people who
who that We're not pushing people out because they lost
their home.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Problem is palace, it is going to turn into like
a fucking Mike community with all the same builds. Beauty
the Palisades was. It was very eclectic in its architecture,
starting from like the thirties and then moving forward into
current day, but everyone sort of had their own idea
of what to build. So it had that feeling. Now,
is it going to be rebuilt you know with this
(10:18):
sort of fucking same shit? Hope not, because that's the
soul that was the soul of the bubble place.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Seeing Alta Dina in that area, there's so much beautiful
architectural history there and like you said, multi generational families.
It's been beautiful to sort of seeing LA come together
because we are in these all these little pockets everywhere,
and you forget that, oh this, you know, you forget
that the other pockets exist, because in La, I feel
like you're in a bubble.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Did you guys watch the Grammys? Did you see the Grammys?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I loved that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Loved the Grammys.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I didn't watch it. I never really do watch a
war shows. But everyone says it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh it was the best Grammys ever.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And honestly, I was watched all by myself, like no
one wanted to watch it with me. I was like
sitting in the here just watching it, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Does anybody? Oh my god, I was like crying.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I all the performances were great, but it had such
heart and and uh and and and Allie Aaron and
I all his wife Aaron and Aaron I were just
texting each other the whole time, like, oh my god,
yeah right, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know what it was? I thought that was so
much fun about this Grammys in particular was seeing all
these like really young emerging talent, like really at like this,
like it's so crazy that all these like Sarita Carpenter, Shoplon,
they're all so young Benson Boone, I was like, I
had never really seen a perform before, and I was like,
oh my god. It was really really fun to sort
of see this like younger generation. Just it gives us,
(11:47):
gave me just a lot of hope just creatively. It
really excited me seeing Beyonce finally when her reaction was
my favorite thing ever, her like disbelief that she finally won.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
When you say what you say, Beyonce finally won, finally.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Won what never one album of the year ever really ever,
which is.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Which is insane, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And her reaction was just the best because she was like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Me, me, well that was for that was country albums.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
She won Best Country Album, and I think like she
was sort of like, yeah, in her mind, I bet.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm just gonna say I bet.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She was like, well, I think maybe I'll win Album
of the Year, but I'm not gonna win country album.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yes, but she won both.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, which was amazing because I mean, I think it's
debatable whether or not it's truly country album, but I'll
take Cowboy Carter over you know, many many things. Yeah,
it was such a It's one of my favorite albums
of last year.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And I loved that, like seeing all these artists. I
haven't seen them live, but I was. It was so
much fun to see all the express like it was
so expressive and so much great showmanship, Like Sabrina Carpenter
just her sort of throwback cute kind of she's a
musical theater. It's a musical theater girl, like I was like, oh,
this is musical theater.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And then Chapel Roone is just like such a I
mean just so.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Like walked so she could run, you know what I mean.
She's like the new age Gagay in another for this generation.
I love her so much.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's really I mean her just and and the fact
that she sings the way she does and can perform
like that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's so hard to do that, like to have that
kind of rain.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I just love Kendrick Winning for a disc track number one.
And if you notice, I don't know if this is
pointed out, but did you see what he was wearing? No, no, okay,
he was wearing. I might be taking this far, but
I have a feeling it's on purpose. And I haven't
read it anything. Yet he's wearing a denim on denim okay,
(13:52):
which is called the Canadian tuxedo.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, great, is from obviously Canadian.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah. I mean, if he went that deep, which I
think he did, that is so rad.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
He probably didn't like just not obviously not knowing, but
just knowing his work. I feel like he's someone that
would go that far.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I know, I just don't like people dissing people. I
know people people dissing people.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, but the whole crowds screaming a minor.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Distract about not liking distracts, Right.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh god, the non.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Distruct I always feel so bad for the people who
like lose out to the other, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't know, I guess I'm I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think every time I think of distruct, I just
think of old school like eminem in like eight mile
That's what I think of.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but it's like, don't we teach our kids to
be nice to each other? So it's like, shouldn't adults
be nice to each other? Are we just supposed to
disc byd in their back? Was that the way it's
really supposed to go or worse.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's worse you want to diss to the face.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I just I just love Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And then also just the celebration of like like La Rap.
I just it's like I miss it, and it's it's
like we're we're like nineties kids, like that's just what
we grew up on.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was like the explosion of West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, like Dre Snoop. Anytime I hear like when I
remember the like the the Olympic thing where they were
like passing along like the baton to La and seeing
like Snoop, I was just like, I was my he's
from New York, so he doesn't get it the way
I do. I was like, I was so emotional and
I was loving. He goes, oh, yeah, it's great. Snooff.
You don't understand, honey, snooze La snoopy La rap. He
(15:53):
we would not be and he was like, okay, honey, awesome.
I was like, you don't understand. It's a cultural thing
growing up in l especially in that time. He is
like a voice of that generation at least for me.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah. Yeah, A thousand. That was a great That was
a great pass passover to the to LA with Snoop
doing his thing was awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It was the best.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's so I'm really excited about also like terrified about
the Olympics coming to the coming to LA. We can't
leave our homes.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I think that, yeah, I think like that's that. Yeah,
the traffic will be on.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Another probably won't even be here. I'll be somewhere else.
And as much as I would love to go see
the Olympics, it just seems like a total utter nightmare.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Actually, you know, if they do it right.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I remember when I was living in London and the
and the and the Olympics were in London and it
was fine, like really oh, it was like I was like, oh,
it's gonna be a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was, you know, the way that they spread it
out and then they doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But doesn't London have really good infrastructure with public Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
They have a great to the tube. You know they.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, we don't have a tube, but I think but.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We do have.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
We do we do though, and I think they will
create like the rail system that we do have.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They're already like growing it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I think by the time they get there, a lot
of the places that they're gonna build or they're going
to have will have that. I don't know, you know what,
I'm being positive. I'm just I'm trying to be positive
about everything.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
If you guys bounce each other out, I love it.
It's that's why it works.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Brenda, we we usually get right into this, but because
you're basically my bestie on the show, we're just like
talking about things that have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I know we haven't seen each other. So but let's, uh,
let's get Brenda focused, Brenda focus.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Don't get Brenda focus.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's very I think that first.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I just want to like, we'll get this out of
the way, like we did our show. Why don't Why
don't you share with everybody you know who you play?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Let's test it out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
On the podcast before we get into our press Who
you play?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then what do you hate most about yourself?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Go ohiest question of this whole podcast. So basically, I
play to Jeanie Busses to Katese Jeanie buss I play
sort of her right hand woman aka best friend, a
version of Linda Rambis. My character is heavily based off
of her, and it's really funny because I feel like
she and I actually have a lot in common in
(18:37):
real life. You both have do boys, we have a
deep love for basketball. We are both tiny little brunettes
who are very outspoken, and yeah, I feel like we
the same way that most friendships work. We balance each
other out. I think Ali's character is very type a,
very on top of everything, and Isla is stepping into
(19:01):
this sort of new role and she's much more laid
back about things. She has a very different perspective on
you know, this franchise and how it should be run.
And it's the breadth of fresh air that this organization needed.
And Alie sort of just here to be her biggest
reporter and be there for whatever that she needs and
also like to help fight off her brothers. Scotty MacArthur
(19:25):
texted me the other day about this crazy La trade
because he knows that, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
God, I know, I a whole on your podcast we
could get into right now with Luca Comming.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I mean, wait, you guys, I have a real.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Lover of basketball, like a real love for sports.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I'm a huge, huge Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I want to start a TikTok that is just Branda's take.
It's called Brenda's take, and it's on things like this
where I ask her about like, you know, like today
we're gonna get Branda's take on the Los Angeles Lakers trade.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Go, She's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Before we move forward with the show, let me get
let me get your take. This trade was so out
of left field and so crazy. Do you think that
there's something underneath all of this that will maybe revealed,
may not be revealed as to why Cuban sort of said,
you know, we're going to get rid of him.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well, apparently Cubans come out and said that he had
no he's a minority owner now, so he oh, that's right,
the first year of the new ownership. So maybe I
personally think that obviously Dallas has always been built on defense.
I think, you know, they're talking about the whole conditioning
issue with Luca. I'm sure that's a big issue.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I mean, seventy pounds drinking beer, right.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
But also a d He's The hard thing is eighty
is one of my favorite lakers of this sort of iteration.
He's incredible, obviously, but he's also very injury prone. The
craziest thing for me Is he's been having one of
the best years.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, he's had in a.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
While healthy, which is really hard. But also, you know,
he's thirty two. I think the Lakers are starting We
like the same way with the Waves. They never do
a full rebuild. They always like rebuild on the go.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And the Waves our is our team, yes.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Team on the show, it's you know. And with Lebron,
he's also getting older. I think we need to start
looking at this sort of next phase of the Lakers
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
For sure, I'm not even talking about the Lake the Lakers.
They got Luca.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm thrilled we got Luca and
Puka in La.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm stoked.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
This is ridiculous. I'm saying for the for Dallas, you.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Know, I don't know what they're thinking. But at the.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Same time, you're right. Look, you know, first of all,
with Luke, you know, when they went to the finals,
you know, they were still I think they had the
eighth best defense in the league, so they were not
lacking defense. Luca does not play defense. We know that. Yeah,
you know, ad Is is a fucking sick defensetible. Yeah, yeah,
so maybe it works out for them, but they've lost
so much juice without Luca being there. But maybe Kyrie
(21:58):
and Ad.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
You know, because honestly that to be honest, if you
just look at the roster they have on paper, eighty
will slide in their eighty hates being a center. He
hates being a big man because that's not what he plays.
And in Dallas they have big men there, so he
gets to fit and slot where he feels more comfortable.
Like I feel like in LA he hated being the
big man. But now for La, we have no defense
(22:19):
and we have no size. Max Christine was such a
great defensive player and losing him was also really hard
because for us, I feel like we have no defense now.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So now everybody understands why she is my right. I
can you believe Brenda's that you are such a sport
like you shouare have your own sports show.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I love sports, between basketball and football. It's sort of
like it runs my life. They the thing that was
so fun about working on the show was Dave Astassin
and I Barenholt, who are our like you know, creators
in our show. Dave was our showrunner. They also love
sports a lot, and when I first sat down with them,
to sort of have a meeting about the show and Mindy.
We basically talked about sports for the first like half
(23:02):
hour because I was.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, this is my lost Chicago ship.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh yeah, Branda would rock in and it doesn't matter
what sport, but Branda would rock in and be like, guys.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Did you see the trade? Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like every like every at least once a week, they'd
be like did you She'd be like, did you hear
about this?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Can you believe it? They paid?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They're like, what are you talking about? She goes cricket India?
Did you see what happened? This is the.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
First time I think, like in my career that I've
been able to sort of blend two things that I
really really love and being able to also, you know,
get to know Genie and you know the Rambit. Jordan Rambis,
Linda's son, was a very you know, he was a
he was a big boy scenary. He would come visit.
They've been really, really wonderful and it's been nice to
(23:51):
sort of get this also inside track on the Lakers,
which was really it's really fun, So like, oh believe me,
and yeah, I think it was just it was such
a fun camaraderie, especially on that set, because everyone had
a real passion for what we were doing, and also
we were making such a fun show. I always like
say to everyone that this was a show that I
(24:12):
would come back even after like our crazy twelve fourteen
hour days of shooting night shoots or something crazy. We would.
We laughed so much and we had such a good
time making the show. I feel like I went in
every day and I was like, poor Kate. I'd like,
oh my god, Kate would be putting me through therapy,
giving me advice about parenting my kids, like me and
my partner every day in between our takes. I'm like, okay,
(24:34):
so anyway, who should I be going to?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Kate?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like, read my aura, did my numbers, did my astrology.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It was the best I know. It makes sense Scotty,
who's a great friend of mine as well. Like, dude,
sometimes I just want to sit in the cast here
and bullshit about nothing, and your sister would all of
a sudden say, so, you know that story you told
about your father is really sad, Like, let's get into
the psychology. I don't want to do it. I don't
want to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I don't want to know that's not lying.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Let me ask you a quick question, So did you
audition for this?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
No? I like, I'm shocked. No, I had a meeting
with Mindy and even Ike.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yes, okay, so, but why I'm asking that is because
being such a huge fucking Lakers fan, this show coming
about and you coming across your desk and reading it,
is it like, oh my god, holy fuck. I mean,
this is kind of the holy Grail in the sense
like I get to be a part of this organization.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
In a way, it excited me in a way that
I hadn't you can't get like again, it's it was
the first script that I'd read that had two of
my favorite things. I was like, I get to do
and play pretend in a world that I actually wish
I could be in. And also, I was when I
sat down with Mindy, Ike and Dave. I was nervous
(25:47):
because the last couple of shows about these basketball teams,
like the Clippers and the Lakers, I watched them. I
was excited about them, and I was, you know, I
was disappointed because I'm such a like a like a
big basketball fan, and when I read this, I went, oh,
this is not about this is just a setting for
these characters and all these relationships. It's not necessarily about basketball,
(26:10):
and that's what I loved. And so even though it
gets to sort of play with some real life situations
that have sort of happened in these people's lives and
these situations, it's not. It's just a vehicle for these
really fun, silly people and a sort of like found
like family and and so for me, that's what really
sold it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
For me.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I was like, oh, it's not I'm not gonna be
worried about, you know, doing you know, a disservice to
the Lakers organization people's stories. And I think that for
me was kind of like it took the pressure off.
And because I was worried, I was like, oh my god,
if this thing about the Lakers, like this is scary,
Like I I'm not Linda Rambus and they're like, no, no, no,
it's just Louly and I was like, okay, all right,
well and then yeah, it working to only Kate Hudson's
(26:51):
in it, and I was like, I can possibly work
with Kate Hudson. I read don't understand Kate knows this.
Sometimes I mean in a scene I'd be in a scene,
and I'd be like, I'm doing a scene with Kate Hudson, what.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Is my life Like?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
One of the craziest moments was when Kate was like facetiming.
She was like, oh wait, Brenda wait, I want you to,
like Mama, I want you to meet Brenda, who plays
my best like. I need a second before I get
on a face of time with a goldie freakin' han
Are you don't put me on the spot.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like this, Branda before we move on. I have a
very very controversial question to ask you. So you're telling
me that you did not like Showtime, Yeah, you didn't
(27:42):
like it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I didn't love it. And maybe here's the thing. I
there are parts of it that I thought were really interesting,
but I don't know. I couldn't get into it, and
I couldn't tell you why. I couldn't. Really, the breaking
of the fourth wall by like so many different characters
threw me off. I think that was a part that
kind of bugged me. I mean, it's a really well
made show. The actors were great. It just you know,
(28:06):
I can't. I couldn't get into it. I wanted to,
but I just couldn't. And then I didn't even watch
clipped a.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Little, a little overstylized, maybe right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think also being such a big growing up as
a Laker fan, being in LA, there's some parts of
it where I'm like, when you take creative liberties like it,
it like throws me off on Like, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I was gonna say, it's probably more because some of
that stuff really you you know so much, you're probably
like that didn't really happen.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I was like, that couldn't be it. Yeah, And so
I couldn't really put my finger on it. But I
just I couldn't get into I wanted to. Like, I
sat through the entire season, going Okay, the next episode
will get me in that. I mean, they got me
to watch the entire season. I just did you like it?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I did? I did so real quick and then we'll
move on. But I was thrown off at first by
the overstylization of it, by the breaking of the fourth wall.
But then because I'm such a huge Lakers fan, I
did into it. I thought the acting was really spot on,
really good and really fun to watch. John c Riley,
the kid who played Magic, was amazing. Everyone was really good.
So it was entertaining to watch, and yes, there were
(29:12):
crazy liberties taken. But at the same time, you know,
when when like this news conferences, when you know, if
you watch back the real ones versus sort of the
press conference, it's it's word for word and verbatim sort
of how certain things went down, You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think what's really fun about what Brenda was saying
about running point, which is what was so fun and
what Genie really wanted, Like her original concept was like,
my life is a comedy. Like in her mind, she's like,
the comedic version of this is would be a really
fun show. And yeah, and instead of like so there's
(29:52):
things in it that are based upon and I love
that she is that self deprecating and has that kind
of sense of humor that she's sort of handed this
to Mindy to say, have fun with this because it's
so wild. You know, her life story is so wild,
and the family is so nuts, and there's so much
there's so much to play on, and so it kind of,
(30:15):
like you said, it became the show isn't really about basketball.
The show is about a family dynamic.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, look, we not I don't want to talk about Genie.
It makes me sad because she completely she ghosted me
and I don't know why. Oh, she was on my
podcast years ago. We became friends, you know, texting about Lakers,
this and that and emails and it was really sweet
and nice. And then it's been a year. However, nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, some people have to clean out Ollie and you
were in her.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Clean you know, DMS. I can see that she's seen
the DM and has not. I don't know what I did.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I'm learning that all of her has been stocking Genie
Bess Right now.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Genie, what did I do?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
She's like this exactly, this is exactly you're doing.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He's so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, the funny thing is it's awesome. Like I was like,
oh my god, she's the best, the greatest man.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So is Linda Rambis, the whole Listen. They're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's also really amazing to see women at the helm
of such.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
A large organization.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And yeah, and and like just be like, there's nothing
like I feel like it's a very unassuming. It's unassuming
leadership in the way like Genie's not some like you
know boys stress, Like she's not like her dad. She's
real shy and you know and and like open and
(31:53):
meaning like you know, warm and.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Like we'll meet you at Laker gates and bring walk
you in. Like she's so personally she's a human.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And one of the funny things that when we were
at the game and I was like, we haven't we
have to go to a game together. It was so crazy.
I sat here and I was like, this is what
our characters this is Like I was talking to Jordan.
I was like, this is what you guys do every
home game. This is a part of your job. You
come to Laker games. This is your job. Like how
crazy and how fun? Because the thing that I really
(32:23):
loved about like kind of getting to know every like
you know Linda in Jeanie's story was like, you know,
Jordan was telling me that like in the Lakers franchise.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Jordan is Jordan Rambus, Yes, Don Linda's son as a
producer on Running Point was like, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
In the organization, like Kurt Rambus, who was also a
Laker and our previous like a head coach, Like no,
no he's not, like Linda's not known as Kurt Rambas's wife, No, no, no,
people know him as like Kurt Will walking like, Oh,
you're Linda Rambis's husband. It's like, because that's how much
these women, how important they are to this organization, that
her you know, her her husband, who is you know,
(33:05):
a very accomplished player and head coach, is known as
her husband. And I was like, I love that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Can I make an observation just the way that you
guys have been saying the title of your show, I'm
not sure the inflection is right unless you've been coached
to say this, because you're saying running point instead of
running point. Yeah, because running point is obviously you're a
point guard your running point, but you guys are emphasizing
the running running point. It's more running point.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Are you trying to tell us how to promote our show?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well? Am I wrong? Brenda?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
No, you're not, you're not.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Hold on a second. We can come to this realization ourselves, Oliver,
we don't need you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But it's not. But it's not running point because it's like,
what does that mean? What is a running point?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But running point has so we've always talked about.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
This running point is what it means.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes, I'm you know, running running point, we're run yes,
but it's got to be running point, not running point.
You can't go down on the point when we do our.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Press junk at next week, Oliver, I'm just gonna let
you know I'm going to hit point so hard and
every single time be like I'm crazy. I'm gonna be
like Oliver Hudson told me that I have to hit.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Point, yeah, because you're said there running plong with my inflection.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Every time, I'm like, so, I'm I'm Brenda song. I
play Alli from running point.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Slacked like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's right. But keep an eye on for my sister
because she'll revert back to running point. Now.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
She's going to do it on purpose. You know this, Oh,
you know she's gonna do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I love Brenda so much.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We're going to do two parts to this, so stay
tuned for the second part where we really really get
into Brenda and her life story and.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
All the good stuff. We got real pop culture on
this one, Ali, I'm proud of us.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know we're poppy, Hey, poppy
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I want to say that you're in Toronto and you
just started a movie with your son. We'll get into
that later, but because the beautiful Brenda song is waiting
for us in the waiting room. Yes, but I'm so excited.
How does it feel to be working? Is it weird?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
No, it's good. Second awesome. Silverstone, she's amazing, she's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You know, she works with Nicole.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, I know, I know, and she's so nice and
so sweet. Wilder's doing great, you know, he's very natural,
very cool. He's finding his footing. But you know, it's
just it's not easy to be thrown into this world
on a set with a million people, never having done
it before ever, and he's handling it really, really well.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, and he hasn't spent much time on set like
when we were kids, we spent a lot of time
on movie sets.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, they're kind of over it. In the beginning, it's
like yay craft service. And then now, you know, where
as the kids are older, like we don't want it's
boring as fuck, like we don't want to go. Yeah,
we loved it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for him. It's like such
a great.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's so fun. But he's still a teenager. Meaning I
had this idea, right I literally created like a montage
in my head where we're going to be here and
we're gonna like play music inst by the fire and
watch movies. It's going to be in my bed.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I want to get into this with Brenda.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're going to get our lines and we're going to
do this, you know, and it's like beautiful music playing.
We hug at the end of the night and say
see you later, son, see you later, Dad. I can't
wait to wait, you know. And literally it's like what's up,
goes up to his room and the door closes. Oh okay.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know he really is such a team.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah yeah, that way.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Rider will talk to me all night long. I have
to like get I have to like pry off the
phone with him. I'm talking to I gotta go. Yeah, like,
I know, mom, Mom, No, sweetie, I know you're in college.
You're twenty one, can you We got to get off
the phone.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
All right, let's bring it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I just want to say, yeah, I'm excited because Brenda
song we're starting. This is actually the initial first thing
that I'm doing with a castmate to promote our show
Running Point and on Netflix, comes out on the twenty
seventh of February, and I'm I'm so excited because she
(03:02):
plays my bestie and my chief of staff on the show,
and she's phenomenal and now we get to like, you know,
delve deep into her psyche yes, which.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is going to be very interesting. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm so excited. I am so good. I'm good. I mean,
it's been crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I was about to say, are you Are you okay?
Is the house okay? Are the kids okay?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Everybody's great, everybody's fine. The house made it luckily. But
it's been really it's been like peaks and valleys, like
just so sad and so scary, and then it's like
you kind of and there's these like lulls of like
what's happening? And then you go and you see it
(03:49):
and it's just so devastating, Like the whole thing is. Yeah,
it sucks, but it really is interesting to see what
happens to a community in a time like this because
you realize like how strong the people are in it,
and it's really amazing to watch that, I have to say,
(04:09):
has been like the thing that's come out of.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
This the most is like people who've lost everything.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And how they're handling it and and and like how
they're just one day at a time and with you know,
having lost everything, it's just wild, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, no, it's it's horrible. It's sad. But at the
same time, I'm wondering when it's okay to post something
funny on Instagram again, like ol. But I'm saying, like
this is my dilemma, Like there's so many things I
want to say and have fun and now I'm like,
is it too So can I yet?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I was thinking about this rap song that I
have recorded. I have it and it's you, your rap
song about growing up in the Palisades.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh God, and you and you.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Say you even say all the stores in it, like
you talk about all the different places in it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's actually like maybe we can do something, Yes, we
can do something charitable with this, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
What I mean, where are you all and where are
You're not in the You're not in.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The West Side, right, No I am. I'm in Brentwood.
I was right on the line of evacuation. I'm in
Toronto right now. I'm working in Toronto. So I have
yet I haven't had time to even process any of it. Yeah,
and I think there's a part of me that is
doing that on purpose. You know. I have a boat,
you know, a fish and I love my boat. And
I took it along the coast and I hugged the
(05:38):
coast and went all the way up, so I got
to see it from that perspective. And now, honestly, that
was the first time that I was able to sort
of take in the scope of it and finally feel
like emotional, you know, because it was unbelievable to see.
And this is where we grew up. Yeah, you know,
I mean we for forty plus years we were here
(05:58):
and it's it's all fucking gone. So at the same time,
you know, all we can do is is just is
move forward and try to help out as much as
we can. And then and I think I'm just going
to post something fun just because I think I got
to break the ice. I want to do something.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's a weird thing. It's a it's a real grieving
process of like it's but it's not a human. It's
a place and so like it like like the like
when you're grieving a death of a person. It's sort
of like it comes at you at weird moments, like
my ex has a house and the palisades and the
alphabet streets and it's literally the only house standing.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And he sent me these videos.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, he sent me videos and I it was there
was it was weird because it was like looking at
it was almost unimaginable when you're looking at it.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And then and then he.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Drove by the place where we always go and it's gone,
and like our little yogurt shop that we take the
kids like every night, you know things and tomming, all
things is gone and it just like just like I
just started to ball.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, you have your routines in your life and the
people that work there, and.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Kay did love topics. I love.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
People are like what are you doing in that?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
In like a billion of time, it was here's the
thing I my best friends grew up in the Palisades.
So I spent most of my teenage and twenties going
to the Palisades and also being from the valley. Every
time I went to visit, I was like, I'm bringing
an overnight bag I would spend. It's just so hard
because one of the most beautiful things about the Palisades
and that whole area is the community. Like I feel
(07:36):
like it was a place where we would walk down
a cafe vita and we would run into just like
twelve different people that we hadn't seen in a while.
Everyone is the community. They're so beautiful. The hardest part
and of the most beautiful thing is seeing the resilience
and the strength of a community and all the people
who live there how much they love being there. And
I think that's one of the hardest things is I
always tell people who come to LA, if you find
(07:58):
the area that you love, and you find that that
community that you love, that's what LA is about, because
you can find so many different kinds of communities here,
and that the Palisades was so special, and you know,
and I think it'll be stronger and better.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
It's just so it's just so hard.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I couldn't imagine growing up there and you know, it's
just not being I still feel so crazy. We were
there the Sunday before everything happened. It was like I
was like, it's just it's just feels so surreal. But
that being said, it's like it's just weird to like
be continued, like life just moves on.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's so I know, And it's also I also was
thinking about though, like the one thing that where the
Palisades had so much magic, and I think all Tadna
feels the same way as there's a lot of generational families,
So like there's a lot of people in the Palisades
that aren't you know, like don't make the kind of
(08:50):
have the kind of means that say I do you know,
or a lot of people did they sort of inherited
their homes, they live there, they're still on, you know,
And I think the thing for the Palisades communities actually
making sure that all of those people can still afford
to go back to their house and rebuild instead of
(09:11):
having to sell. And I think that that one of
the things that made the Palisades kind of internally is
that we knew families there that are generational families that
we all grew up together.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Even though it's a very different kind.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Of set of means and and Altadna, it seems like
it's the same thing. But I think there that you know,
there's a lot of people who have the ability to
rebuild in the Palisades. Where's an Alta Dina. You know,
when you think about like how to help and how
to rebuild, like where where those resources are.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Going to me?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's all I can think about, is like, you know,
the resources need to be going to the people who
who that We're not pushing people out because they lost
their home.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Problem is palace, it is going to turn into like
a fucking Mike community with all the same builds. Beauty
the Palisades was. It was very eclectic in its architecture,
starting from like the thirties and then moving forward into
current day, but everyone sort of had their own idea
of what to build. So it had that feeling. Now,
is it going to be rebuilt you know with this
(10:18):
sort of fucking same shit? Hope not, because that's the
soul that was the soul of the bubble place.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Seeing Alta Dina in that area, there's so much beautiful
architectural history there and like you said, multi generational families.
It's been beautiful to sort of seeing LA come together
because we are in these all these little pockets everywhere,
and you forget that, oh this, you know, you forget
that the other pockets exist, because in La, I feel
like you're in a bubble.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Did you guys watch the Grammys? Did you see the Grammys?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I loved that.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Loved the Grammys.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I didn't watch it. I never really do watch a
war shows. But everyone says it was awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh it was the best Grammys ever.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And honestly, I was watched all by myself, like no
one wanted to watch it with me. I was like
sitting in the here just watching it, and I was like.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Does anybody? Oh my god, I was like crying.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I all the performances were great, but it had such
heart and and uh and and and Allie Aaron and
I all his wife Aaron and Aaron I were just
texting each other the whole time, like, oh my god,
yeah right, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know what it was? I thought that was so
much fun about this Grammys in particular was seeing all
these like really young emerging talent, like really at like this,
like it's so crazy that all these like Sarita Carpenter, Shoplon,
they're all so young Benson Boone, I was like, I
had never really seen a perform before, and I was like,
oh my god. It was really really fun to sort
of see this like younger generation. Just it gives us,
(11:47):
gave me just a lot of hope just creatively. It
really excited me seeing Beyonce finally when her reaction was
my favorite thing ever, her like disbelief that she finally won.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
When you say what you say, Beyonce finally won, finally.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Won what never one album of the year ever really ever,
which is.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Which is insane, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And her reaction was just the best because she was like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Me, me, well that was for that was country albums.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
She won Best Country Album, and I think like she
was sort of like, yeah, in her mind, I bet.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I'm just gonna say I bet.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She was like, well, I think maybe I'll win Album
of the Year, but I'm not gonna win country album.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yes, but she won both.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, which was amazing because I mean, I think it's
debatable whether or not it's truly country album, but I'll
take Cowboy Carter over you know, many many things. Yeah,
it was such a It's one of my favorite albums
of last year.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And I loved that, like seeing all these artists. I
haven't seen them live, but I was. It was so
much fun to see all the express like it was
so expressive and so much great showmanship, Like Sabrina Carpenter
just her sort of throwback cute kind of she's a
musical theater. It's a musical theater girl, like I was like, oh,
this is musical theater.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And then Chapel Roone is just like such a I
mean just so.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Like walked so she could run, you know what I mean.
She's like the new age Gagay in another for this generation.
I love her so much.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
It's really I mean her just and and the fact
that she sings the way she does and can perform
like that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Like.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's so hard to do that, like to have that
kind of rain.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I just love Kendrick Winning for a disc track number one.
And if you notice, I don't know if this is
pointed out, but did you see what he was wearing? No, no, okay,
he was wearing. I might be taking this far, but
I have a feeling it's on purpose. And I haven't
read it anything. Yet he's wearing a denim on denim okay,
(13:52):
which is called the Canadian tuxedo.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, great, is from obviously Canadian.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah. I mean, if he went that deep, which I
think he did, that is so rad.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
He probably didn't like just not obviously not knowing, but
just knowing his work. I feel like he's someone that
would go that far.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I know, I just don't like people dissing people. I
know people people dissing people.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, but the whole crowds screaming a minor.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Distract about not liking distracts, Right.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh god, the non.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Distruct I always feel so bad for the people who
like lose out to the other, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't know, I guess I'm I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think every time I think of distruct, I just
think of old school like eminem in like eight mile
That's what I think of.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but it's like, don't we teach our kids to
be nice to each other? So it's like, shouldn't adults
be nice to each other? Are we just supposed to
disc byd in their back? Was that the way it's
really supposed to go or worse.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's worse you want to diss to the face.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I just I just love Kendrick.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And then also just the celebration of like like La Rap.
I just it's like I miss it, and it's it's
like we're we're like nineties kids, like that's just what
we grew up on.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was like the explosion of West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, like Dre Snoop. Anytime I hear like when I
remember the like the the Olympic thing where they were
like passing along like the baton to La and seeing
like Snoop, I was just like, I was my he's
from New York, so he doesn't get it the way
I do. I was like, I was so emotional and
I was loving. He goes, oh, yeah, it's great. Snooff.
You don't understand, honey, snooze La snoopy La rap. He
(15:53):
we would not be and he was like, okay, honey, awesome.
I was like, you don't understand. It's a cultural thing
growing up in l especially in that time. He is
like a voice of that generation at least for me.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah. Yeah, A thousand. That was a great That was
a great pass passover to the to LA with Snoop
doing his thing was awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It was the best.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's so I'm really excited about also like terrified about
the Olympics coming to the coming to LA. We can't
leave our homes.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I think that, yeah, I think like that's that. Yeah,
the traffic will be on.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Another probably won't even be here. I'll be somewhere else.
And as much as I would love to go see
the Olympics, it just seems like a total utter nightmare.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Actually, you know, if they do it right.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I remember when I was living in London and the
and the and the Olympics were in London and it
was fine, like really oh, it was like I was like, oh,
it's gonna be a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was, you know, the way that they spread it
out and then they doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But doesn't London have really good infrastructure with public Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
They have a great to the tube. You know they.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, we don't have a tube, but I think but.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We do have.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
We do we do though, and I think they will
create like the rail system that we do have.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They're already like growing it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I think by the time they get there, a lot
of the places that they're gonna build or they're going
to have will have that. I don't know, you know what,
I'm being positive. I'm just I'm trying to be positive
about everything.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
If you guys bounce each other out, I love it.
It's that's why it works.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Brenda, we we usually get right into this, but because
you're basically my bestie on the show, we're just like
talking about things that have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And I know we haven't seen each other. So but let's, uh,
let's get Brenda focused, Brenda focus.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Don't get Brenda focus.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's very I think that first.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I just want to like, we'll get this out of
the way, like we did our show. Why don't Why
don't you share with everybody you know who you play?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Let's test it out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
On the podcast before we get into our press Who
you play?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then what do you hate most about yourself?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Go ohiest question of this whole podcast. So basically, I
play to Jeanie Busses to Katese Jeanie buss I play
sort of her right hand woman aka best friend, a
version of Linda Rambis. My character is heavily based off
of her, and it's really funny because I feel like
she and I actually have a lot in common in
(18:37):
real life. You both have do boys, we have a
deep love for basketball. We are both tiny little brunettes
who are very outspoken, and yeah, I feel like we
the same way that most friendships work. We balance each
other out. I think Ali's character is very type a,
very on top of everything, and Isla is stepping into
(19:01):
this sort of new role and she's much more laid
back about things. She has a very different perspective on
you know, this franchise and how it should be run.
And it's the breadth of fresh air that this organization needed.
And Alie sort of just here to be her biggest
reporter and be there for whatever that she needs and
also like to help fight off her brothers. Scotty MacArthur
(19:25):
texted me the other day about this crazy La trade
because he knows that, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
God, I know, I a whole on your podcast we
could get into right now with Luca Comming.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I mean, wait, you guys, I have a real.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Lover of basketball, like a real love for sports.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I'm a huge, huge Lakers.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, you don't understand.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I want to start a TikTok that is just Branda's take.
It's called Brenda's take, and it's on things like this
where I ask her about like, you know, like today
we're gonna get Branda's take on the Los Angeles Lakers trade.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Go, She's like, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Before we move forward with the show, let me get
let me get your take. This trade was so out
of left field and so crazy. Do you think that
there's something underneath all of this that will maybe revealed,
may not be revealed as to why Cuban sort of said,
you know, we're going to get rid of him.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well, apparently Cubans come out and said that he had
no he's a minority owner now, so he oh, that's right,
the first year of the new ownership. So maybe I
personally think that obviously Dallas has always been built on defense.
I think, you know, they're talking about the whole conditioning
issue with Luca. I'm sure that's a big issue.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I mean, seventy pounds drinking beer, right.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
But also a d He's The hard thing is eighty
is one of my favorite lakers of this sort of iteration.
He's incredible, obviously, but he's also very injury prone. The
craziest thing for me Is he's been having one of
the best years.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, he's had in a.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
While healthy, which is really hard. But also, you know,
he's thirty two. I think the Lakers are starting We
like the same way with the Waves. They never do
a full rebuild. They always like rebuild on the go.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And the Waves our is our team, yes.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Team on the show, it's you know. And with Lebron,
he's also getting older. I think we need to start
looking at this sort of next phase of the Lakers
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
For sure, I'm not even talking about the Lake the Lakers.
They got Luca.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm thrilled we got Luca and
Puka in La.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm stoked.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
This is ridiculous. I'm saying for the for Dallas, you.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Know, I don't know what they're thinking. But at the.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Same time, you're right. Look, you know, first of all,
with Luke, you know, when they went to the finals,
you know, they were still I think they had the
eighth best defense in the league, so they were not
lacking defense. Luca does not play defense. We know that. Yeah,
you know, ad Is is a fucking sick defensetible. Yeah, yeah,
so maybe it works out for them, but they've lost
so much juice without Luca being there. But maybe Kyrie
(21:58):
and Ad.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
You know, because honestly that to be honest, if you
just look at the roster they have on paper, eighty
will slide in their eighty hates being a center. He
hates being a big man because that's not what he plays.
And in Dallas they have big men there, so he
gets to fit and slot where he feels more comfortable.
Like I feel like in LA he hated being the
big man. But now for La, we have no defense
(22:19):
and we have no size. Max Christine was such a
great defensive player and losing him was also really hard
because for us, I feel like we have no defense now.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So now everybody understands why she is my right. I
can you believe Brenda's that you are such a sport
like you shouare have your own sports show.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I love sports, between basketball and football. It's sort of
like it runs my life. They the thing that was
so fun about working on the show was Dave Astassin
and I Barenholt, who are our like you know, creators
in our show. Dave was our showrunner. They also love
sports a lot, and when I first sat down with them,
to sort of have a meeting about the show and Mindy.
We basically talked about sports for the first like half
(23:02):
hour because I was.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like, this is my lost Chicago ship.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh yeah, Branda would rock in and it doesn't matter
what sport, but Branda would rock in and be like, guys.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Did you see the trade? Can you believe it?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Like every like every at least once a week, they'd
be like did you She'd be like, did you hear
about this?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Can you believe it? They paid?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They're like, what are you talking about? She goes cricket India?
Did you see what happened? This is the.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
First time I think, like in my career that I've
been able to sort of blend two things that I
really really love and being able to also, you know,
get to know Genie and you know the Rambit. Jordan Rambis,
Linda's son, was a very you know, he was a
he was a big boy scenary. He would come visit.
They've been really, really wonderful and it's been nice to
(23:51):
sort of get this also inside track on the Lakers,
which was really it's really fun, So like, oh believe me,
and yeah, I think it was just it was such
a fun camaraderie, especially on that set, because everyone had
a real passion for what we were doing, and also
we were making such a fun show. I always like
say to everyone that this was a show that I
(24:12):
would come back even after like our crazy twelve fourteen
hour days of shooting night shoots or something crazy. We would.
We laughed so much and we had such a good
time making the show. I feel like I went in
every day and I was like, poor Kate. I'd like,
oh my god, Kate would be putting me through therapy,
giving me advice about parenting my kids, like me and
my partner every day in between our takes. I'm like, okay,
(24:34):
so anyway, who should I be going to?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Kate?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like, read my aura, did my numbers, did my astrology.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It was the best I know. It makes sense Scotty,
who's a great friend of mine as well. Like, dude,
sometimes I just want to sit in the cast here
and bullshit about nothing, and your sister would all of
a sudden say, so, you know that story you told
about your father is really sad, Like, let's get into
the psychology. I don't want to do it. I don't
want to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I don't want to know that's not lying.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Let me ask you a quick question, So did you
audition for this?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
No? I like, I'm shocked. No, I had a meeting
with Mindy and even Ike.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yes, okay, so, but why I'm asking that is because
being such a huge fucking Lakers fan, this show coming
about and you coming across your desk and reading it,
is it like, oh my god, holy fuck. I mean,
this is kind of the holy Grail in the sense
like I get to be a part of this organization.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
In a way, it excited me in a way that
I hadn't you can't get like again, it's it was
the first script that I'd read that had two of
my favorite things. I was like, I get to do
and play pretend in a world that I actually wish
I could be in. And also, I was when I
sat down with Mindy, Ike and Dave. I was nervous
(25:47):
because the last couple of shows about these basketball teams,
like the Clippers and the Lakers, I watched them. I
was excited about them, and I was, you know, I
was disappointed because I'm such a like a like a
big basketball fan, and when I read this, I went, oh,
this is not about this is just a setting for
these characters and all these relationships. It's not necessarily about basketball,
(26:10):
and that's what I loved. And so even though it
gets to sort of play with some real life situations
that have sort of happened in these people's lives and
these situations, it's not. It's just a vehicle for these
really fun, silly people and a sort of like found
like family and and so for me, that's what really
sold it.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
For me.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I was like, oh, it's not I'm not gonna be
worried about, you know, doing you know, a disservice to
the Lakers organization people's stories. And I think that for
me was kind of like it took the pressure off.
And because I was worried, I was like, oh my god,
if this thing about the Lakers, like this is scary,
Like I I'm not Linda Rambus and they're like, no, no, no,
it's just Louly and I was like, okay, all right,
well and then yeah, it working to only Kate Hudson's
(26:51):
in it, and I was like, I can possibly work
with Kate Hudson. I read don't understand Kate knows this.
Sometimes I mean in a scene I'd be in a scene,
and I'd be like, I'm doing a scene with Kate Hudson, what.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Is my life Like?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
One of the craziest moments was when Kate was like facetiming.
She was like, oh wait, Brenda wait, I want you to,
like Mama, I want you to meet Brenda, who plays
my best like. I need a second before I get
on a face of time with a goldie freakin' han
Are you don't put me on the spot.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like this, Branda before we move on. I have a
very very controversial question to ask you. So you're telling
me that you did not like Showtime, Yeah, you didn't
(27:42):
like it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I didn't love it. And maybe here's the thing. I
there are parts of it that I thought were really interesting,
but I don't know. I couldn't get into it, and
I couldn't tell you why. I couldn't. Really, the breaking
of the fourth wall by like so many different characters
threw me off. I think that was a part that
kind of bugged me. I mean, it's a really well
made show. The actors were great. It just you know,
(28:06):
I can't. I couldn't get into it. I wanted to,
but I just couldn't. And then I didn't even watch
clipped a.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Little, a little overstylized, maybe right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I think also being such a big growing up as
a Laker fan, being in LA, there's some parts of
it where I'm like, when you take creative liberties like it,
it like throws me off on Like, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I was gonna say, it's probably more because some of
that stuff really you you know so much, you're probably
like that didn't really happen.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I was like, that couldn't be it. Yeah, And so
I couldn't really put my finger on it. But I
just I couldn't get into I wanted to. Like, I
sat through the entire season, going Okay, the next episode
will get me in that. I mean, they got me
to watch the entire season. I just did you like it?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I did? I did so real quick and then we'll
move on. But I was thrown off at first by
the overstylization of it, by the breaking of the fourth wall.
But then because I'm such a huge Lakers fan, I
did into it. I thought the acting was really spot on,
really good and really fun to watch. John c Riley,
the kid who played Magic, was amazing. Everyone was really good.
So it was entertaining to watch, and yes, there were
(29:12):
crazy liberties taken. But at the same time, you know,
when when like this news conferences, when you know, if
you watch back the real ones versus sort of the
press conference, it's it's word for word and verbatim sort
of how certain things went down, You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think what's really fun about what Brenda was saying
about running point, which is what was so fun and
what Genie really wanted, Like her original concept was like,
my life is a comedy. Like in her mind, she's like,
the comedic version of this is would be a really
fun show. And yeah, and instead of like so there's
(29:52):
things in it that are based upon and I love
that she is that self deprecating and has that kind
of sense of humor that she's sort of handed this
to Mindy to say, have fun with this because it's
so wild. You know, her life story is so wild,
and the family is so nuts, and there's so much
there's so much to play on, and so it kind of,
(30:15):
like you said, it became the show isn't really about basketball.
The show is about a family dynamic.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, look, we not I don't want to talk about Genie.
It makes me sad because she completely she ghosted me
and I don't know why. Oh, she was on my
podcast years ago. We became friends, you know, texting about Lakers,
this and that and emails and it was really sweet
and nice. And then it's been a year. However, nothing.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, some people have to clean out Ollie and you
were in her.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Clean you know, DMS. I can see that she's seen
the DM and has not. I don't know what I did.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I'm learning that all of her has been stocking Genie
Bess Right now.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Genie, what did I do?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
She's like this exactly, this is exactly you're doing.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He's so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well, the funny thing is it's awesome. Like I was like,
oh my god, she's the best, the greatest man.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
So is Linda Rambis, the whole Listen. They're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
It's also really amazing to see women at the helm
of such.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
A large organization.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And yeah, and and like just be like, there's nothing
like I feel like it's a very unassuming. It's unassuming
leadership in the way like Genie's not some like you
know boys stress, Like she's not like her dad. She's
real shy and you know and and like open and
(31:53):
meaning like you know, warm and.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Like we'll meet you at Laker gates and bring walk
you in. Like she's so personally she's a human.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And one of the funny things that when we were
at the game and I was like, we haven't we
have to go to a game together. It was so crazy.
I sat here and I was like, this is what
our characters this is Like I was talking to Jordan.
I was like, this is what you guys do every
home game. This is a part of your job. You
come to Laker games. This is your job. Like how
crazy and how fun? Because the thing that I really
(32:23):
loved about like kind of getting to know every like
you know Linda in Jeanie's story was like, you know,
Jordan was telling me that like in the Lakers franchise.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Jordan is Jordan Rambus, Yes, Don Linda's son as a
producer on Running Point was like, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
In the organization, like Kurt Rambus, who was also a
Laker and our previous like a head coach, Like no,
no he's not, like Linda's not known as Kurt Rambas's wife, No, no, no,
people know him as like Kurt Will walking like, Oh,
you're Linda Rambis's husband. It's like, because that's how much
these women, how important they are to this organization, that
her you know, her her husband, who is you know,
(33:05):
a very accomplished player and head coach, is known as
her husband. And I was like, I love that.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Can I make an observation just the way that you
guys have been saying the title of your show, I'm
not sure the inflection is right unless you've been coached
to say this, because you're saying running point instead of
running point. Yeah, because running point is obviously you're a
point guard your running point, but you guys are emphasizing
the running running point. It's more running point.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Are you trying to tell us how to promote our show?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well? Am I wrong? Brenda?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
No, you're not, you're not.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Hold on a second. We can come to this realization ourselves, Oliver,
we don't need you.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
But it's not. But it's not running point because it's like,
what does that mean? What is a running point?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But running point has so we've always talked about.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
This running point is what it means.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yes, I'm you know, running running point, we're run yes,
but it's got to be running point, not running point.
You can't go down on the point when we do our.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Press junk at next week, Oliver, I'm just gonna let
you know I'm going to hit point so hard and
every single time be like I'm crazy. I'm gonna be
like Oliver Hudson told me that I have to hit.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Point, yeah, because you're said there running plong with my inflection.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Every time, I'm like, so, I'm I'm Brenda song. I
play Alli from running point.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Slacked like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's right. But keep an eye on for my sister
because she'll revert back to running point. Now.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
She's going to do it on purpose. You know this, Oh,
you know she's gonna do it on purpose.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I love Brenda so much.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We're going to do two parts to this, so stay
tuned for the second part where we really really get
into Brenda and her life story and.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
All the good stuff. We got real pop culture on
this one, Ali, I'm proud of us.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I know we're poppy, Hey, poppy
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