April 11, 2025 • 40 mins
From 'Freaks and Geeks' to 'Reba,' JoAnna Garcia Swisher has been busy making people laugh and smile for years. Even when her personal life hits tough times, she found a way to stop and smell the 'Sweet Magnolias.'
Find out how she created a new chapter when her pro-baseball husband retired, her parents passed away, and how she held onto the friendships in her life- including superstars like Reba McEntire!
Meanwhile, Oliver tells a story about a sitcom scene that haunts him to this day!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Railval No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good. Oh that's an expression, Oliver Hudson. Oh gosh,
coming at you live stretching. Here's my stretch out. Yeah,
(00:56):
a little word backs. It just caught myself.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I feel like I'm always fucking complaining in these intros, like, yeah,
so this is what's wrong. I guess it's my time
to kind of vent about my life or like, by
the way, my life is fucking great, Like there's absolutely
no doubt about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What I mean. I'm happy. I have a great wife
of amazing kids. You know. Am I the least successful
of my family? Yeah? But it's okay because even the
least successful of my family is pretty successful. Do I
sometimes play in bed at night thinking what about me?
(01:34):
How come I was left behind? Yeah? I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Most people would love to be sort of in my position.
I totally understand that. But sometimes do I cry in
the shower because just I can't work with. You know,
some of these amazing creative people that my whole family
has worked with, and you know, they're really doing things
that are moving people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, but you know, I'm just it's okay. You know,
I'm still here plugging a way. Anyway, enough about me
for sure, Fish in the waiting room. I think I
just met I think I just met her. Maybe I
met her a long time ago by just the Dodgers
Yankees last year, and I think I met her. My
(02:17):
sister knows her. Well, let's bring her on, let's talk.
Let's talk some ship. Hi there, Hi, Jojo.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What are you doing? That's what my brother calls me, Jojo?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I am in. I just saw you, I know, well
last season.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Having a better night than I was.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I know, I know we're back in the season now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did you go to the opener?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I didn't. I was in Montana.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They they're jerseys with the gold on them. That was
like a pretty big flex that was hot.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Rad though.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was hot, very cool. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Get one of those.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, you definitely need one, I think so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think so. But yeah, how are you?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
What's going on back in Tampa? Just grinding away? I've
been in Canada since the beginning of the year. We're
producing a few movies up there and I went to
Iron like dashed a little Ireland in there. But now
they're done and we're just in post on that and
what are you doing. We launched our production company last
year and we've we have a few pieces of IP
(03:26):
and one of them is It's a Lot of Romance,
a trilogy of movies Sexy Irish Man comes back like
for a second chance with this woman because they messed
it up in the first. It's really pretty. But I
mean it's been a whole journey. It's been years getting these.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, so this is fun actually because I like producing.
I have a Puch company and Fox Fox Not. Have
you been in for a minute, you know, because obviously
you've been in the baseball world forever. Yes, Nick, it's
rather than an exps husband. My sister knows everyone. You know,
when she was dating Alex Rodriguez, she was in the mix.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That was a good time.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, and you were in you know, baseball world forever, right, Yes?
Were you able to do your own ship? I mean
obviously you weren't playing, but yeah, how does that work?
How so portive? Do you have to be like you
do your baseball and I'll.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Do my own thing.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
For us, it just kind of timed out that we
met and then we started our like we met, got
married really quickly started our family, and so it was
a time in my life where I was like having
babies and so I wasn't looking at you know, doing
an hour long drama and another city.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know, it was like what can I do?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I worked throughout all of that time that he was
still playing baseball, but it was more like a limited
series or a sitcom or something like that, just because
being together was really important.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And then also I had the.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Kids, so I didn't want to like take them away
from him.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But when he retired, it was like full on.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think it was like a month later I took
an hour long drama and in Atlanta, like welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Near new life that dad. But you know, we both
like oddly and like this, it's not odd at all.
It's actually one.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Of my favorite things about us is that we're just
both ride or dies for each other. You know, he's
like so all in on, you know, he's definitely in
the dad mode right now. He still works for the
Yankees and has his jobs and stuff like that. He
has you know, the home UNDERBX and stuff like that.
But he's really like he's in it. You know, he's like,
(05:50):
I don't regret, you know. I think he's grateful that
they're young and he can be with them and he
can also be with us. So we're just about getting
ready to go to Georgia because I start the show.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Soon, and he's like, you know, I got him.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
We got a like house with all these golf courses
around it, and he's happy.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Amazing, he's happy. Yeah, well, it's kind of nice. It's
like I did my thing and I'm gonna be dad
and play some golf and yeah, do that. But what
was it like having kids? Raising kids, you know, with
an athlete, especially in MLB where there's one hundred and
sixty two games and they're on the road, you know, Yeah,
(06:27):
how do you square that? Did you travel a lot
or were like, let me do my home base.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, we did. We traveled a lot. And also baseball
is a family sport.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I think we you know that those there's like family
rooms and they have a lot of support for families.
And we were in Cleveland at the time when we
had Emmy, and they were amazing to us about you know,
it just it was it felt like a family very
much like a family effort. And I mean otherwise they
(06:58):
don't really see their families much because it's so it's
such a grind.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
But you can see it takes a toll on dads.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Like you can definitely tell the ones that are like,
oh god, you know you're they're missing, like those the
ones that like got married really young and had babies
young and so they're in the thick of their career
and their kids are like eleven and they're missing it
because then school starts. So you know, summertimes were always
really fun because you had all the families up there
spring training. You would get like the families for like
(07:26):
a week or two maybe where they could like take
spring break or something.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But it was always fun. We had little one like well, Emmy.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Sailor Nick retired officially retired three days after.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sailor was born. I was like brustbading and.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
He was about to get on a plane back to
me or back to Scranton because he was rehabbing in Scranton,
and he like literally had like the plane waiting for him,
and he was like I'm not going back, and we
popped champagne.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We were like so great.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Wow, it was like that, it was that decision was
he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah. It was a really interesting time for the Yankees too,
because they had like an amazing like that's when Aaron
Judge was in Triple A and Gary Sanchez and they
had like the Baby Bronx Bombers or whatever they call them.
And you know, Nick was like kind of the stage
old dude that he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Old, but you know to those guys, he was.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And he's like, meet me at the waffle house and
I'll like drop all my knowledge bombs on you.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it was it was a very special time. It
was a very sad time.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was you know, unexpected and you know, you never
want to go out injured, but he knew his body
was sort of limited limiting him and he wasn't able
to do. You know, taking up a spot on the
forty man roster just because of what you've earned in
the past wasn't really something he wanted to do. He
(08:50):
wanted to see that space be open and available for
younger guys that really deserved it, and look look at
the stars that have.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Was in So what was that was that night slash
next day? Like was it a lot of communication or
just kind of relief or sadness or just lit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, like I was breastfeeding.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I was, really I was.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, Nick's dad.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Played pro ball, Like you know, we all kind of
were preparing for it mentally. I think he was really
excited that we made like a celebration out of it.
And he also retired a Yankee, you know, which was
really beautiful and surrounded like the Yankees organization and the
Steinbrenner family and Brian Cashman have been so good to
my husband and our family, and so we just knew
(09:43):
that that was the right, you know, way to go out,
and they didn't let like a minute pass before he
was already being welcomed into the fold, just in a
different capacity.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And so now he works with like player development.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
He's a special advisor to general management and ownership, and
so he goes to the field every day and he
has amazing friends, and he still gets to watch these
young guys, like you know, make a career out of it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The game's changed a lot, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, it's the beautiful thing. Honestly, it's so he was
let down gently. He sort of had a do lanning.
But that's not to say that, you know, this was
eight years ago that there haven't been and he would
tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Moments of being like, you know, who am I? What
am I doing?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm like, you know, yes, did he you know, achieve
so much in his young like career and thirteen years
in the big leagues and all of these he won
a World Series and an All Start and all this
stuff like.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's still now the past.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So now it's like, Okay, who am I now? And
that is something we navigate a lot, and I'm very sensitive.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To that, even though he's still in baseball. But yeah,
he's a player. You wrap up your entire world and identity, Yeah,
because you're starting from three years old essentially, and then
this is it and you've reached everything you could possibly
reach again, World Series, All Star, I mean, retiring as
(11:12):
a Yankee, and then it's like, all right, thank you amazing,
And I'm still I mean, how old's nick?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean how forty four?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Forty four? So he was what he was like what
thirty five when you were hiring. I mean it's like,
young man, shit, you know, and so you're like, Okay,
this has been awesome, but now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yes, and you're home a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, even just like the like for us, the rhythm
of our relationship, you know, just the natural it's like
school year. I would always think like you have your
summer break and then you get up, but like you know, August,
September and all this stuff, and it's like, just like
that energy in your body is no longer.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's not the same rhythm.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And so I've just kind of like, you know, try
to be as supportive as possible of any endeavor that
he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know, he's in the beginning, we were like, okay,
you got to get out of the house.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I do. I still do.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
At the beginning, I'm like, like you are, yes, he's
going to Augusta next week with his friends, and he's like, uh,
you know he's going to be gone a week.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm like in joy.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Right here, like you do your ship exactly. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, he's got you know, Nick, he's got a
lot of energy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh my gosh, unbelievable. It's intense.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
It's wild, I mean, and I'm like the kind of
gala this is obviously like letting you into our bedroom.
But I like to like wind down at night, so
we get in and that's when he's like he has
this like zoomis at the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's just like our eight year old. Like, I'm like,
shut up. I was like, I can't talk. I don't
want to talk anymore. I can't talk anymore. I just
want to like not speak.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And let's see, it's just like wants to just talk
about the day.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that's so funny, I know, isn't it funny though?
With the kids? You know, well, nick is I feel
childlike myself.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm for you guys have very so much.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, and he's very childlike, you know. And it's so
funny when you talk about your eight year old because
I have seventeen, fifteen and eleven, two boys, my little girl,
and it's the same ship. Like, yeah, they come home
from school and they're like, how's school?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Fun? Yeah, And then all of a sudden, at like
ten o'clock, Yeah, all my room chatting, fighting, you know,
play fighting, fighting, Like you guys, get the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, I'm like overtouched, I'm over stimulated.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like get yeah, and they're like, why are you
so mad?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I'm like, I know, not mad man, it's just
you get out of my room.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like where was his energy when I have energy?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yes, when I asked you to like take the dish or.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
The trash out, yeah, dish.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
My god, that's so funny. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So, how so you've been you've been in the business
for a long time then, you know, so you've been producing.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, that's sort of been this new found love that
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It is how new this is?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Well, we so I got the rights to this particular
book series a few years ago, and so we've been
and developed, developing them and just making them now. So
this is sort of our first big thing, and we
have other a couple of other things set up in
so different places.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It just takes a lot, you know, it's hard to
get stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's hard. So you found, you got the books, you
optioned the books. Yeah, you found Did you find your
writer first, or did you set up the books somewhere?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
We set up the books and we found sort of
sort of like simultaneously at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And then we.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
And yeah, and then we now we have a couple
of things that we you know, we're going to like
have we hired a writer. Now that we have money
to do that, we're going to be able to like
kind of you know, And I really like developing series
or anything that sort of sticks around because I like
the you know, the trajectory of it, the art, like
(15:28):
the real like getting time to like really but I'm like,
right now we're in post and I you know, every
music is so important to me as well, and so
I'm just like going, I'm on a merry go round
of music.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well especially I mean, depending on what you allocated for
your music budget.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's not enough.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I directed Sweet Magnolia's last season and that was really fun.
I enjoyed that, but I asked so I had to
direct myself in it, which was just I was the
weakest link weird very far. It was very weird, but
so I kind of got dipped a toe in there
and that capacity. But like producing it was even one
step more of a bird's eye view into that, and
(16:08):
I really enjoyed that world building and.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's so fun. It's so fun. I love it. It's
just a different outlet, you know. I Mean, I told
you I've had a production company for a minute, but
it's always sort of here and there, and it's never
been really focused because we haven't had a proper deal
and we haven't really gone, you know, one hundred percent
at it. And in the last two years we have
(16:33):
And as an actor, I love being an actor, but
this is just totally different, really bloring a completely different
creative side. Yes, you know, just story and you know,
script analysis and figuring it out and you know, coming
up with ideas and writers. Yes, it's fun. I mean
(16:55):
it's really fun.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's been extremely rewarding. I can totally relate to that.
It's been just a total joy. I'm just like I'm
hooked and I still want to be an actor, but
I also am interested in telling stories that I'm not
necessarily right for.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So as actors, like we just sort.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Of do what we do, you know, And so for
me it's like very interesting. I love you know, I
love historical fiction and all of like now I'm kind
of just excited about, you know, diving in and do.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You read a lot of books. I do.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So we have a book club called really Clover Reads
with the Happy Place. Yeah, and it's one of our
most popular parts of the Happy Place. The Lifestyle blog
that I have, and it's what honestly inspired the production company.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I read. I listen to books constantly.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm like Belle from Beauty and I always have a
book in my hands. I just love reading. I've always
loved reading. It's just for me. It's like meditation.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's something that I strive to
do more. And I go in phases, you know. And
now I'm in like a book phase. Like I'm following
all of these book people on Instagram. Yeah, and there's
too many. I'm like, I love everyone. Yeah, I'm like
the top five books that I've read in twenty twenty four,
I'm like, hell, love.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Them all, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I'm like, I can't read them all. I go
into a bookstore and I get overwhelmed and frustrated that
I can't just consume every fucking book on the shelf.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I agree, and then I.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Never know which one to pick next. I just finish
one right now. In James Cook, it's you know, it's
it's his third I love the ocean. I have a boat.
I fish, yeah, you know, I love just mariners, a
nautical yeah. And it was just about James Cook's third
journey where he ended up dying, and it's incredible to read.
And they're trying to find sort of a northern passage,
(18:53):
you know, to a trade route from the top of
the Arctic, you know, over.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Into your very dangerous part.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Of yeahing in Tahiti and Hawaii and discovering you know,
all these new peoples and it's just fucking rad and yeah,
you know. And now I'm like, okay, I finished that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now I finished out, Okay, I know the.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
World is always yeah, I don't want to make the
wrong choice.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
By the way that I was like, where are my TVR?
I have it somewhere in my office. It's like this thick,
this thick right now, and I'm just like, oh god,
I got to get a grip. Also, I don't know
if you if you're like doing any adaptations within your
production company. But now that we have a book club,
we've been getting like tons of submissions and all that time,
(19:42):
and now that we've actually sold our adaptation and like,
now we have a proof of concept that we do it.
In my opinion, really well, it's so much more intense.
I was talking to a woman that worked at Brownstone
Elizabeth Things Company, and she's like, oh, you're about to
enter or I'm not reading things that I want to
read anymore phase, And I was like, really, so I
(20:04):
do have to have that balance of like, Okay, this
is what I'm reading and not to say that I'm
not enjoying these books, but it's like I have this
other little section of my heart that I'm like, oh,
I got to get it. But I know I'm never
going to adapt it. It's not for work at all,
It's for pleasure. And so I'm like the balance. But
I do listen to books on tape a lot because
I'm in the car a ton and that does help.
(20:24):
Like I can tear through a few books a week
just listening to it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And see, I can't do it. I can't do it.
I don't like it. I don't like listening.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't my favorite people.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
So you're gonna, well, let's see if you do get
to that place. I now follow the voices that I
love on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm in that level of deep oh you are what
is that?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What is that? I don't know what that is?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Just like you know the voice actors that bring these.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Books to like, oh yeah, I will always ask authors about.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well that's huge.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's by the way, if it's a bad voice, I'm
out done. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The books that I listen to on tape are more
like our biography still for self help stuff, you know
what I mean. Yeah, I'm listening right now to Jerry
Wine Troub's bought about Its awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know, he's just prolific. He's he's an icon in
our industry. And he's got this voice. He kind of
talks like that and he's like, you know, frank Sinutter
and I will go into the club and we had
a cocktail and knowing, are you Frankie? You know. So
he's talking kind of like that, and his his career
(21:33):
is just epic and as a producer, it's really fun
to listen to.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm going to download that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And the Hustle. He's a hustler. He was a hustler.
We all are, and it's really cool to watch how
he hustled. Were you an actor if you've been an
actor since you were little or yeah, so how did
(22:03):
that start?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It started here in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
It was sort of an extracurricular There was a really
and I was just lucky because there's not many around
anymore here in this area, but a really well like,
highly regarded acting teacher and she had a little study
a studio called Tampa Academy of Performing Arts, and I
just started taking I took an improv class, and then
(22:26):
I auditioned for the play.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And at that time, back in the.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Day in Florida, it was like booming here and a
lot of work and you could have as many agents
as you wanted. So whoever kind of called you first
for the audition was who you you know, who got
the commission? Commission right, yeah, And so I got a
few agents and I started. You know, my mom was amazing.
She my dad was like, what the hell is happening here?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
But my mom saw how much I loved it and that,
you know, I was good at it, and she was like,
let's do this, Like if this is what you love,
what you want to do, let's go for it. They
made me stay home, like I couldn't fully relocate. I
did a show for Nickelodeon for a few years that
was in Canada, but I was in and out, like
I came back and forth and I worked a ton
(23:14):
in Florida, and then I moved to La when I
was eighteen and I started on Party of Five like
pretty immediately, and then I did Freaks and Geeks and
then Reva and so it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Was just sort of like kind of one foot in
front of the other.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's crazy you did Freaks.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And anyway, I know, it was so fun.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That was such a cool job. Yeah, oh yeah, they're
so great in so many ways. I didn't really even
imagine myself to be like funny or have that knack
for it. Yeah, but they really brought that out of me,
like they saw something in me. And I always every
time I see you, Jet, I'm always like thanks for that,
for that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And then how was I was working with the Riva?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
She's the best?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I mean, how could it not be? Right?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
She is such an incredible human just like just in general,
so being able, and she was new to this too,
and to watch her navit this like whole new thing
that she and honestly, she's just a girl that has
big dreams and from start to finish, and so you
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see there's like a very real humility appreciation.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Her work ethic is extreme. She's so kind, and you know,
she was.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Such a huge she is such a huge star and
she just she she still amazes me with her you know,
like I can't believe this is happening to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Vibe, you know, like I'm like, you're so gun on
the voice. She's like, oh my god, I loved that.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Like I help I get to do it again, or
you know having I was just telling her the other day.
I was like, her new sitcom and I'm like, yeah,
it's she came to the Stary Festival to play, which
is close to us, and so we and saw her
play and the girls love her so much. She's so
good to my girls, and so, you know, me and Nick,
we took the girls and she does this whole like
(25:08):
TV thing, you know, moment where she sings all the
theme songs and then the last one is obviously happiest
placed for her new sitcom.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And I just told her.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I was like, you know, looking back on all those
pictures in that time in my life, I was so
lucky to be a working actress on a television show
that was beloved. But also you know that that I
had like real people that cared about me and made
sure I was safe.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How old were you, by the way, I was like.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I started at twenty one, Okay, and I mean wild
times like me and Steve Howie, my god, like we're
lucky to be alive and they but we had a
job to come to at nine am, ever ready, and
we were expected to be there on time that we
were loved. When I had a break up, my tears
were dried by them, you know, like they just it
was family.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And so I six seasons.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean I did Rules of Engagement, which is
a sitcomperence.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I love that. I love that sitcom. Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah. I had two kids during that time.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
By the way, best time to have kids.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, it's the best because it's the greatest schedule. Schedule. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Nick's always like, should we do that again? I'm like, yeah,
I'll come. I'll do a sitcom again, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I'm not I'm not there yet, but I will do
a sitcom.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I know, you really develop
real relationships.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, to this day, I mean I've lost my mom
and dad, you know, and they've just stepped in.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Chris rich was he officiated my wedding.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
My dad and Riba Riba and Massa Peterman were bridesmaids
in my wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know, these are people that have that.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I Like, I always say, like, you know, when something
amazing happens for my kids, or like sailor just want
to cheer competition, and I send pictures and I'm like,
these are people that genuinely are so excited to like
see that and be a part of our lives and
a part of our world. And to have that have
been like also such a meaningful work experience.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I learned so much, you know, like the sitcom Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
God, I had never done one. I didn't know what
was going on because mine was with David Spade and
Patrick Warburton and I was doing a movie in Calgary,
and I had auditioned for Rules of Engagement and I
went in and I made a rule for myself that
I would not audition for sitcoms because I didn't understand it.
(27:26):
It was big, it was this, it was not real.
I was like, I don't know how to connect to this.
And I read Rules of Engagement. I'm like, oh, this
is kind of it's got somethings grounded a little bit.
I was like, I'll give this one a shot. And
I went in. I read for David Spade's character, and
I for Russell and I did the whole thing and
I was walking out and you know, they come running
after me and they're like, we wanted another scene. I'm like, oh, okay,
(27:49):
that's good news. Yeah, and I do the other scene
and everyone's laughing and I'm like, oh great. I was like,
I'm for sure testing for this, for sure. It didn't.
I get a fucking call. It was die. And then
I went to Calgary and I was doing a movie
and then I get a call like it was almost
like a year late. I was ten months later. They
want you to come test for Rules of Engagement And
(28:12):
I'm like, what what is that? Like? That show? The sitcom?
You okay, but it was for a different part because
they had shot the pilot and they're recasting. Yeah, and
so now I fly back and forth and I screen
test and I do the whole thing and with Patrick Warburton,
and I don't know what I'm doing. I don't even
(28:32):
understand the rhythms yet of a sitcom, but I'm just
like winging it. And I got the job, and I'm like,
holy shit, but this is gonna be great. It's gonna
be great because they got Patrick Warburton season sitcom Star
got David Spade season sis. They can carry the big
load of everything and I'll just be the sort of
real guy, you know, not And it was the opposite
(28:55):
because yeah, bait is as dry as it gets, and
fucking Warburton is like you know, Turkey that's been out
for two years. That's not why he is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Right, You're like, work bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Now they're relying on me to be like yeah, I'm like,
oh my god. So it took it took a couple
of year, two years, like really flying the rhythm of it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, to surrender to it.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's a rhythm in your head. It's
like I've done.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You know, for me. I hear it like that, you know.
And good writing.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, but great sitcoms are most of the best sitcoms I.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Think are super grounded.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And so it's really just you know, it's a thirty
minutes like so there is a connection there.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I have so much respect for it.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
And yeah, nothing better than a great sitcom, nothing worse
than a bad one.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
No, I know, I know, and most of them aren't
aren't good. We got lucky, no I know, I know.
And the live audience is really fun. You know, I
had a moment. I had a moment where I completely
lost my mind. So you know, you've got the live audience,
so there's three hundred people, and for those who don't know,
don't you know, there's a real laugh in the first
(30:03):
couple takes. But then you do it over and over again,
and there's a warm up person sort of saying, oh,
you need to laugh, like you have to keep the
energy up. And I was doing this scene and sometime,
as an actor, you just go blank, at least I do.
And I went completely blank to where I couldn't remember
a line. And we started, I do one line, couldn't
(30:25):
remember it, couldn't remember it. And the audience is laughing
at first because they love when we all fucked up,
you know. And then it got quiet, and now it's
getting worse, and now I'm spiraling and now I can't
remember a goddamn thing. To finally where I screamed, I'm like,
all right, stop, we're done. We're fucking done. Here's what
we're gonna do. Cameras put the cameras that I gotta
(30:47):
go scrout script supervisor. And the script supervisor is the
one who knows the lines who can tell you when
you're messing up? And so I stand right here, what's
my first line? Blah blah blah blah. Hey you can
get get good, get this is great, okay, moving on,
move the camera, bear, What's what do I do here?
What do I say? I literally did it in small
(31:07):
little pieces. That was just I was gone. And then
I finished it, and I'm like, all right, cool, moving on,
We're done, and then the audience like erupts and like
applause and a laugh. But that, to this day is
probably one of the worst.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's what you yeah, that that like, that's my stress
dream is not knowing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
My own awful. It was so awful.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I watched Sailor my little One do that in her
first performance of Beauty and the Be she was playing
Lafu this year.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She literally I started.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Oh God, like fix your face, fix your face, and
I was like, this is my worst I don't wanted
to die for her. But also I was having like
a visceral reaction to.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean it is, it is.
It's the biggest thing for me, you know, if I
had a you know, I hate these actors who have
like photographic memories who can like literally.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Be like all right, got it? You know, because if
I knew my lines backwards and forwards and had that confidence,
I'd be fucking cloney right now. Yeah, but I just
I get so wrapped up and like, oh yeah, I
gotta remember, I gotta remember. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I don't know if I believe that, but I
do understand. I do understand that feeling of like.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, So then after Reba, you know, you kept You're
still an actor, but at what point, you know, was
it like all right, you know, is it when you
met Nick or or what did you ever give up?
Did you ever not not quit but like put it
on hold? Or was there a moment where you were
in part of your career and like I thought it
(32:53):
was going to go a different way.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean I felt like I was. After Reva ended.
Then it was like I I did a few shows.
I mean I did pretty much a show every year,
but nothing like the pilot wouldn't get picked up or this,
that and the other, like I did. I did a
sitcom right when we got married, which was really fun
for like a year, and so like that kind of stuff,
(33:17):
but it was nothing like really like settling in and
I definitely got just beat down.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I was like, this is a grind, you know, just.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Kind of getting thrown into stuff and you know, not
it didn't feel like super intentional. And then I got
a call about Sweet Magnolias, and I was like, it
was a last minute, like we have got to go.
We are shooting this thing. You have to make this decision.
Hear three scripts to read and you know.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So you got and I was an offer, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And I and I got on a plane three days later.
And really it's been like the you know, obviously one
of the most meaningful jobs of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean it's it's been fun to like, you know,
you know, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's hard out there to have a show that lasts again,
but also just like that connects.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I mean I meet people every single.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Day, and I mean I have I get I just
someone hugged me in Target yesterday. I was on the
phone with network executive. She's like, did a stranger just
hug you? And I was like yeah, She's like, are
you concerned about that? I was like, it just happens.
It does happen a lot. I don't mind a hug
from a stranger. I thank God, Thank God, because that
(34:35):
tends to be the jobs that the jobs that I
get are the jobs that you know, people that I
don't know want to give me a hug for. But
like you, when I meet people that have watched their
show going through divorces and watch the show, you know,
the show is about female friendship and surviving like life
together and your chosen family, and and it's just been
(34:55):
a really special It's a sweet show.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's definitely sweet.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
But it's just been a really meeting and I lost
both my parents during this time and it's just carried
Yeah I.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Did, gosh and so but they did get to visit set.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It was.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
They came and surprised me for my birthday and season.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
One how many seasons is it? By the way, we.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Just streamed our fourth season like a couple months ago,
and yeah, it just they both were able to come
and they always made it to every set I've ever
worked on, and so they made it to Sweet Annoyance.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It definitely was.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
How between parents, like how we a little.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Over a year my dad died in November, right before
COVID my and he died very quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We didn't know he was sick. And my mom died
in March of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Wow. Yeah, was your mom sick as well? Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, she had dementia.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, and your dad did he know?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
No, he knew about my mom. He was so holy focused.
My dad was brilliant. He's a brilliant doctor, but he
was so ahead of the curve in terms of like
all of this, like you know, type three diabetes being
like the new what they're kind of diagnosing, like Alzheimer's
ads and all of this, like the blood sugar and
like fasting and all that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
My dad was on it. He was on it.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
He just immersed himself and used to all, you know,
channeled all of that brilliance into wanting to get my
mom better.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And they loved each other so.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Much, and they were married for almost fifty years when
he died. Yeah, and they were each other's everything. And
I just don't think my mom. I think she was
like I'm good.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yep, I'm good. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. You know.
It feels like that happens a lot like it does. Yeah,
I'm okay, now, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
She was a powerful, like witchy woman like had all
this cool intuition and stuff like that, and she very
much I think orchestrated her passing. And it was difficult
and very painful, but just you know, I know what
I knew where she wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, and your dad, he didn't even know himself.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
No, it was really wild.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
He started having like little tiny like strokes, like tiny
little infarms or whatever they call them. And yeah, my
dad was diagnosed with this like colangelal carcinoma, like some
sort of it's sort of by the liver bio duct
kind of thing. I'm blacked out about it. But and
we had him, we were he was here in Tampa.
We had a plane ready to like take him to
(37:44):
Seters because he was going to work with this like
surgeon oncology duo and like the cowboys of this sort of.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Like area of the body.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
And he had another stroke and never came out of
the hospital.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He was like a total of three weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, and my brother and I my brother's a physician
as well, and I think he was very well aware of.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well what was happening.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I was in total denial, Like I was pounding the
pavement of that hospital day in and day out, and.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
My dad helped found the women's center.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
My dad was in ob G I n at that
hospital that he passed away in, so we had a
lot of support, a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeowow crazy like life altering. Yeah, I bet I can't
even imagine, you know, But it's it's life, and we're
at this day, we're at this age now that happens,
and it's scary and crazy at the same time. The
more we think about it or dwell upon it, we're
creating sort of this unnecessary pain that hasn't happened. Yeah,
(38:47):
you know what I mean. Like Katie and I talk
about it, it's like, oh my god, you know our
parents are getting old, even though they're very healthy. But
it's just what happens. What if? You can't live in
the what if because it doesn't happened, right, So no, and.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
You'll be okay when it does. And I always tell people,
they're like, my worst nightmare, You're going to do it. Yeah,
And but you know I'm still here and still driving
and finding purpose and enjoying my life.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
And I know they're so proud.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
And I have unbelievable like moments where I feel them
and I'm they are fully telling me that they're right there.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But yeah, you want to enjoy it, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, of course it is. It is. You don't know
until you're actually in it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah yeah, I mean, gosh, it's not a fun club
to be in. But we're all here.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Let's stick to the book clubs.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Exactly, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Speaking of which, we're running on time here, but like,
you know, let's try to figure someone out. I mean,
if you have anything cool, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We definitely. My wheels are already spinning, so don't.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You worry about that. Yeah yeah, yeah, doing great. It's
awesome for you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
This was so nice. It was great to see you.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Good chatting, good scene each other.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Soon okay, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
She's still better than I. Oh my god, what's wrong
with me? No? Okay, I love her. She's great. You're
knowing each other for a little bit now, super fun.
Nick is the best. You so much energy, so Crazy's
like what a guy to hang out with a blast.
All right, I'm fucking starving. I need to get out
and I need to go move my body. I'm out
(40:28):
of here. I gotta leave.
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Railval No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good. Oh that's an expression, Oliver Hudson. Oh gosh,
coming at you live stretching. Here's my stretch out. Yeah,
(00:56):
a little word backs. It just caught myself.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I feel like I'm always fucking complaining in these intros, like, yeah,
so this is what's wrong. I guess it's my time
to kind of vent about my life or like, by
the way, my life is fucking great, Like there's absolutely
no doubt about it, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What I mean. I'm happy. I have a great wife
of amazing kids. You know. Am I the least successful
of my family? Yeah? But it's okay because even the
least successful of my family is pretty successful. Do I
sometimes play in bed at night thinking what about me?
(01:34):
How come I was left behind? Yeah? I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Most people would love to be sort of in my position.
I totally understand that. But sometimes do I cry in
the shower because just I can't work with. You know,
some of these amazing creative people that my whole family
has worked with, and you know, they're really doing things
that are moving people.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, but you know, I'm just it's okay. You know,
I'm still here plugging a way. Anyway, enough about me
for sure, Fish in the waiting room. I think I
just met I think I just met her. Maybe I
met her a long time ago by just the Dodgers
Yankees last year, and I think I met her. My
(02:17):
sister knows her. Well, let's bring her on, let's talk.
Let's talk some ship. Hi there, Hi, Jojo.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What are you doing? That's what my brother calls me, Jojo?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I am in. I just saw you, I know, well
last season.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Having a better night than I was.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I know, I know we're back in the season now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did you go to the opener?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I didn't. I was in Montana.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
They they're jerseys with the gold on them. That was
like a pretty big flex that was hot.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Rad though.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was hot, very cool. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Get one of those.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, you definitely need one, I think so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I think so. But yeah, how are you?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
What's going on back in Tampa? Just grinding away? I've
been in Canada since the beginning of the year. We're
producing a few movies up there and I went to
Iron like dashed a little Ireland in there. But now
they're done and we're just in post on that and
what are you doing. We launched our production company last
year and we've we have a few pieces of IP
(03:26):
and one of them is It's a Lot of Romance,
a trilogy of movies Sexy Irish Man comes back like
for a second chance with this woman because they messed
it up in the first. It's really pretty. But I
mean it's been a whole journey. It's been years getting these.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, so this is fun actually because I like producing.
I have a Puch company and Fox Fox Not. Have
you been in for a minute, you know, because obviously
you've been in the baseball world forever. Yes, Nick, it's
rather than an exps husband. My sister knows everyone. You know,
when she was dating Alex Rodriguez, she was in the mix.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That was a good time.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, and you were in you know, baseball world forever, right, Yes?
Were you able to do your own ship? I mean
obviously you weren't playing, but yeah, how does that work?
How so portive? Do you have to be like you
do your baseball and I'll.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Do my own thing.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
For us, it just kind of timed out that we
met and then we started our like we met, got
married really quickly started our family, and so it was
a time in my life where I was like having
babies and so I wasn't looking at you know, doing
an hour long drama and another city.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know, it was like what can I do?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
I worked throughout all of that time that he was
still playing baseball, but it was more like a limited
series or a sitcom or something like that, just because
being together was really important.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And then also I had the.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Kids, so I didn't want to like take them away
from him.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But when he retired, it was like full on.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think it was like a month later I took
an hour long drama and in Atlanta, like welcome.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Near new life that dad. But you know, we both
like oddly and like this, it's not odd at all.
It's actually one.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Of my favorite things about us is that we're just
both ride or dies for each other. You know, he's
like so all in on, you know, he's definitely in
the dad mode right now. He still works for the
Yankees and has his jobs and stuff like that. He
has you know, the home UNDERBX and stuff like that.
But he's really like he's in it. You know, he's like,
(05:50):
I don't regret, you know. I think he's grateful that
they're young and he can be with them and he
can also be with us. So we're just about getting
ready to go to Georgia because I start the show.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Soon, and he's like, you know, I got him.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
We got a like house with all these golf courses
around it, and he's happy.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Amazing, he's happy. Yeah, well, it's kind of nice. It's
like I did my thing and I'm gonna be dad
and play some golf and yeah, do that. But what
was it like having kids? Raising kids, you know, with
an athlete, especially in MLB where there's one hundred and
sixty two games and they're on the road, you know, Yeah,
(06:27):
how do you square that? Did you travel a lot
or were like, let me do my home base.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, we did. We traveled a lot. And also baseball
is a family sport.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I think we you know that those there's like family
rooms and they have a lot of support for families.
And we were in Cleveland at the time when we
had Emmy, and they were amazing to us about you know,
it just it was it felt like a family very
much like a family effort. And I mean otherwise they
(06:58):
don't really see their families much because it's so it's
such a grind.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
But you can see it takes a toll on dads.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Like you can definitely tell the ones that are like,
oh god, you know you're they're missing, like those the
ones that like got married really young and had babies
young and so they're in the thick of their career
and their kids are like eleven and they're missing it
because then school starts. So you know, summertimes were always
really fun because you had all the families up there
spring training. You would get like the families for like
(07:26):
a week or two maybe where they could like take
spring break or something.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But it was always fun. We had little one like well, Emmy.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Sailor Nick retired officially retired three days after.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Sailor was born. I was like brustbading and.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
He was about to get on a plane back to
me or back to Scranton because he was rehabbing in Scranton,
and he like literally had like the plane waiting for him,
and he was like I'm not going back, and we
popped champagne.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We were like so great.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Wow, it was like that, it was that decision was
he was hurt.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Yeah. It was a really interesting time for the Yankees too,
because they had like an amazing like that's when Aaron
Judge was in Triple A and Gary Sanchez and they
had like the Baby Bronx Bombers or whatever they call them.
And you know, Nick was like kind of the stage
old dude that he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Old, but you know to those guys, he was.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And he's like, meet me at the waffle house and
I'll like drop all my knowledge bombs on you.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And it was it was a very special time. It
was a very sad time.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was you know, unexpected and you know, you never
want to go out injured, but he knew his body
was sort of limited limiting him and he wasn't able
to do. You know, taking up a spot on the
forty man roster just because of what you've earned in
the past wasn't really something he wanted to do. He
(08:50):
wanted to see that space be open and available for
younger guys that really deserved it, and look look at
the stars that have.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Was in So what was that was that night slash
next day? Like was it a lot of communication or
just kind of relief or sadness or just lit.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, like I was breastfeeding.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I was, really I was.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, Nick's dad.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Played pro ball, Like you know, we all kind of
were preparing for it mentally. I think he was really
excited that we made like a celebration out of it.
And he also retired a Yankee, you know, which was
really beautiful and surrounded like the Yankees organization and the
Steinbrenner family and Brian Cashman have been so good to
my husband and our family, and so we just knew
(09:43):
that that was the right, you know, way to go out,
and they didn't let like a minute pass before he
was already being welcomed into the fold, just in a
different capacity.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And so now he works with like player development.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
He's a special advisor to general management and ownership, and
so he goes to the field every day and he
has amazing friends, and he still gets to watch these
young guys, like you know, make a career out of it, and.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The game's changed a lot, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, it's the beautiful thing. Honestly, it's so he was
let down gently. He sort of had a do lanning.
But that's not to say that, you know, this was
eight years ago that there haven't been and he would
tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Moments of being like, you know, who am I? What
am I doing?
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm like, you know, yes, did he you know, achieve
so much in his young like career and thirteen years
in the big leagues and all of these he won
a World Series and an All Start and all this
stuff like.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's still now the past.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So now it's like, Okay, who am I now? And
that is something we navigate a lot, and I'm very sensitive.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To that, even though he's still in baseball. But yeah,
he's a player. You wrap up your entire world and identity, Yeah,
because you're starting from three years old essentially, and then
this is it and you've reached everything you could possibly
reach again, World Series, All Star, I mean, retiring as
(11:12):
a Yankee, and then it's like, all right, thank you amazing,
And I'm still I mean, how old's nick?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I mean how forty four?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Forty four? So he was what he was like what
thirty five when you were hiring. I mean it's like,
young man, shit, you know, and so you're like, Okay,
this has been awesome, but now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yes, and you're home a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, even just like the like for us, the rhythm
of our relationship, you know, just the natural it's like
school year. I would always think like you have your
summer break and then you get up, but like you know, August,
September and all this stuff, and it's like, just like
that energy in your body is no longer.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's not the same rhythm.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And so I've just kind of like, you know, try
to be as supportive as possible of any endeavor that
he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You know, he's in the beginning, we were like, okay,
you got to get out of the house.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I do. I still do.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
At the beginning, I'm like, like you are, yes, he's
going to Augusta next week with his friends, and he's like, uh,
you know he's going to be gone a week.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm like in joy.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Right here, like you do your ship exactly. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, he's got you know, Nick, he's got a
lot of energy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh my gosh, unbelievable. It's intense.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
It's wild, I mean, and I'm like the kind of
gala this is obviously like letting you into our bedroom.
But I like to like wind down at night, so
we get in and that's when he's like he has
this like zoomis at the end of the night.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's just like our eight year old. Like, I'm like,
shut up. I was like, I can't talk. I don't
want to talk anymore. I can't talk anymore. I just
want to like not speak.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
And let's see, it's just like wants to just talk
about the day.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that's so funny, I know, isn't it funny though?
With the kids? You know, well, nick is I feel
childlike myself.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I'm for you guys have very so much.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, and he's very childlike, you know. And it's so
funny when you talk about your eight year old because
I have seventeen, fifteen and eleven, two boys, my little girl,
and it's the same ship. Like, yeah, they come home
from school and they're like, how's school?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Fun? Yeah, And then all of a sudden, at like
ten o'clock, Yeah, all my room chatting, fighting, you know,
play fighting, fighting, Like you guys, get the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Yeah, I'm like overtouched, I'm over stimulated.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'm like get yeah, and they're like, why are you
so mad?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I'm like, I know, not mad man, it's just
you get out of my room.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like where was his energy when I have energy?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yes, when I asked you to like take the dish or.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
The trash out, yeah, dish.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
My god, that's so funny. That's so funny.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So, how so you've been you've been in the business
for a long time then, you know, so you've been producing.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yeah, that's sort of been this new found love that
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It is how new this is?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Well, we so I got the rights to this particular
book series a few years ago, and so we've been
and developed, developing them and just making them now. So
this is sort of our first big thing, and we
have other a couple of other things set up in
so different places.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It just takes a lot, you know, it's hard to
get stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's hard. So you found, you got the books, you
optioned the books. Yeah, you found Did you find your
writer first, or did you set up the books somewhere?
Speaker 5 (14:59):
We set up the books and we found sort of
sort of like simultaneously at the same time.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And then we.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
And yeah, and then we now we have a couple
of things that we you know, we're going to like
have we hired a writer. Now that we have money
to do that, we're going to be able to like
kind of you know, And I really like developing series
or anything that sort of sticks around because I like
the you know, the trajectory of it, the art, like
(15:28):
the real like getting time to like really but I'm like,
right now we're in post and I you know, every
music is so important to me as well, and so
I'm just like going, I'm on a merry go round
of music.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well especially I mean, depending on what you allocated for
your music budget.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's not enough.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I directed Sweet Magnolia's last season and that was really fun.
I enjoyed that, but I asked so I had to
direct myself in it, which was just I was the
weakest link weird very far. It was very weird, but
so I kind of got dipped a toe in there
and that capacity. But like producing it was even one
step more of a bird's eye view into that, and
(16:08):
I really enjoyed that world building and.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's so fun. It's so fun. I love it. It's
just a different outlet, you know. I Mean, I told
you I've had a production company for a minute, but
it's always sort of here and there, and it's never
been really focused because we haven't had a proper deal
and we haven't really gone, you know, one hundred percent
at it. And in the last two years we have
(16:33):
And as an actor, I love being an actor, but
this is just totally different, really bloring a completely different
creative side. Yes, you know, just story and you know,
script analysis and figuring it out and you know, coming
up with ideas and writers. Yes, it's fun. I mean
(16:55):
it's really fun.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's been extremely rewarding. I can totally relate to that.
It's been just a total joy. I'm just like I'm
hooked and I still want to be an actor, but
I also am interested in telling stories that I'm not
necessarily right for.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So as actors, like we just sort.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Of do what we do, you know, And so for
me it's like very interesting. I love you know, I
love historical fiction and all of like now I'm kind
of just excited about, you know, diving in and do.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You read a lot of books. I do.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
So we have a book club called really Clover Reads
with the Happy Place. Yeah, and it's one of our
most popular parts of the Happy Place. The Lifestyle blog
that I have, and it's what honestly inspired the production company.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So I read. I listen to books constantly.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm like Belle from Beauty and I always have a
book in my hands. I just love reading. I've always
loved reading. It's just for me. It's like meditation.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's something that I strive to
do more. And I go in phases, you know. And
now I'm in like a book phase. Like I'm following
all of these book people on Instagram. Yeah, and there's
too many. I'm like, I love everyone. Yeah, I'm like
the top five books that I've read in twenty twenty four,
I'm like, hell, love.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Them all, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I'm like, I can't read them all. I go
into a bookstore and I get overwhelmed and frustrated that
I can't just consume every fucking book on the shelf.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I agree, and then I.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Never know which one to pick next. I just finish
one right now. In James Cook, it's you know, it's
it's his third I love the ocean. I have a boat.
I fish, yeah, you know, I love just mariners, a
nautical yeah. And it was just about James Cook's third
journey where he ended up dying, and it's incredible to read.
And they're trying to find sort of a northern passage,
(18:53):
you know, to a trade route from the top of
the Arctic, you know, over.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Into your very dangerous part.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Of yeahing in Tahiti and Hawaii and discovering you know,
all these new peoples and it's just fucking rad and yeah,
you know. And now I'm like, okay, I finished that.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now I finished out, Okay, I know the.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
World is always yeah, I don't want to make the
wrong choice.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
By the way that I was like, where are my TVR?
I have it somewhere in my office. It's like this thick,
this thick right now, and I'm just like, oh god,
I got to get a grip. Also, I don't know
if you if you're like doing any adaptations within your
production company. But now that we have a book club,
we've been getting like tons of submissions and all that time,
(19:42):
and now that we've actually sold our adaptation and like,
now we have a proof of concept that we do it.
In my opinion, really well, it's so much more intense.
I was talking to a woman that worked at Brownstone
Elizabeth Things Company, and she's like, oh, you're about to
enter or I'm not reading things that I want to
read anymore phase, And I was like, really, so I
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do have to have that balance of like, Okay, this
is what I'm reading and not to say that I'm
not enjoying these books, but it's like I have this
other little section of my heart that I'm like, oh,
I got to get it. But I know I'm never
going to adapt it. It's not for work at all,
It's for pleasure. And so I'm like the balance. But
I do listen to books on tape a lot because
I'm in the car a ton and that does help.
(20:24):
Like I can tear through a few books a week
just listening to it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And see, I can't do it. I can't do it.
I don't like it. I don't like listening.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't my favorite people.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
So you're gonna, well, let's see if you do get
to that place. I now follow the voices that I
love on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I'm in that level of deep oh you are what
is that?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What is that? I don't know what that is?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Just like you know the voice actors that bring these.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Books to like, oh yeah, I will always ask authors about.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well that's huge.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It's by the way, if it's a bad voice, I'm
out done. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The books that I listen to on tape are more
like our biography still for self help stuff, you know
what I mean. Yeah, I'm listening right now to Jerry
Wine Troub's bought about Its awesome.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know, he's just prolific. He's he's an icon in
our industry. And he's got this voice. He kind of
talks like that and he's like, you know, frank Sinutter
and I will go into the club and we had
a cocktail and knowing, are you Frankie? You know. So
he's talking kind of like that, and his his career
(21:33):
is just epic and as a producer, it's really fun
to listen to.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm going to download that.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And the Hustle. He's a hustler. He was a hustler.
We all are, and it's really cool to watch how
he hustled. Were you an actor if you've been an
actor since you were little or yeah, so how did
(22:03):
that start?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It started here in Tampa.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
It was sort of an extracurricular There was a really
and I was just lucky because there's not many around
anymore here in this area, but a really well like,
highly regarded acting teacher and she had a little study
a studio called Tampa Academy of Performing Arts, and I
just started taking I took an improv class, and then
(22:26):
I auditioned for the play.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And at that time, back in the.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Day in Florida, it was like booming here and a
lot of work and you could have as many agents
as you wanted. So whoever kind of called you first
for the audition was who you you know, who got
the commission? Commission right, yeah, And so I got a
few agents and I started. You know, my mom was amazing.
She my dad was like, what the hell is happening here?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
What are you doing?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
But my mom saw how much I loved it and that,
you know, I was good at it, and she was like,
let's do this, Like if this is what you love,
what you want to do, let's go for it. They
made me stay home, like I couldn't fully relocate. I
did a show for Nickelodeon for a few years that
was in Canada, but I was in and out, like
I came back and forth and I worked a ton
(23:14):
in Florida, and then I moved to La when I
was eighteen and I started on Party of Five like
pretty immediately, and then I did Freaks and Geeks and
then Reva and so it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Was just sort of like kind of one foot in
front of the other.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's crazy you did Freaks.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And anyway, I know, it was so fun.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That was such a cool job. Yeah, oh yeah, they're
so great in so many ways. I didn't really even
imagine myself to be like funny or have that knack
for it. Yeah, but they really brought that out of me,
like they saw something in me. And I always every
time I see you, Jet, I'm always like thanks for that,
for that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And then how was I was working with the Riva?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
She's the best?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I mean, how could it not be? Right?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
She is such an incredible human just like just in general,
so being able, and she was new to this too,
and to watch her navit this like whole new thing
that she and honestly, she's just a girl that has
big dreams and from start to finish, and so you
(24:19):
see there's like a very real humility appreciation.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Her work ethic is extreme. She's so kind, and you know,
she was.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Such a huge she is such a huge star and
she just she she still amazes me with her you know,
like I can't believe this is happening to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Vibe, you know, like I'm like, you're so gun on
the voice. She's like, oh my god, I loved that.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Like I help I get to do it again, or
you know having I was just telling her the other day.
I was like, her new sitcom and I'm like, yeah,
it's she came to the Stary Festival to play, which
is close to us, and so we and saw her
play and the girls love her so much. She's so
good to my girls, and so, you know, me and Nick,
we took the girls and she does this whole like
(25:08):
TV thing, you know, moment where she sings all the
theme songs and then the last one is obviously happiest
placed for her new sitcom.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And I just told her.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I was like, you know, looking back on all those
pictures in that time in my life, I was so
lucky to be a working actress on a television show
that was beloved. But also you know that that I
had like real people that cared about me and made
sure I was safe.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How old were you, by the way, I was like.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I started at twenty one, Okay, and I mean wild
times like me and Steve Howie, my god, like we're
lucky to be alive and they but we had a
job to come to at nine am, ever ready, and
we were expected to be there on time that we
were loved. When I had a break up, my tears
were dried by them, you know, like they just it
was family.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And so I six seasons.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I mean I did Rules of Engagement, which is
a sitcomperence.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I love that. I love that sitcom. Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah. I had two kids during that time.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
By the way, best time to have kids.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, it's the best because it's the greatest schedule. Schedule. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Nick's always like, should we do that again? I'm like, yeah,
I'll come. I'll do a sitcom again, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I just don't.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I'm not I'm not there yet, but I will do
a sitcom.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I know, you really develop
real relationships.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Yeah, to this day, I mean I've lost my mom
and dad, you know, and they've just stepped in.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Chris rich was he officiated my wedding.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
My dad and Riba Riba and Massa Peterman were bridesmaids
in my wedding.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You know, these are people that have that.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
I Like, I always say, like, you know, when something
amazing happens for my kids, or like sailor just want
to cheer competition, and I send pictures and I'm like,
these are people that genuinely are so excited to like
see that and be a part of our lives and
a part of our world. And to have that have
been like also such a meaningful work experience.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I learned so much, you know, like the sitcom Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
God, I had never done one. I didn't know what
was going on because mine was with David Spade and
Patrick Warburton and I was doing a movie in Calgary,
and I had auditioned for Rules of Engagement and I
went in and I made a rule for myself that
I would not audition for sitcoms because I didn't understand it.
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It was big, it was this, it was not real.
I was like, I don't know how to connect to this.
And I read Rules of Engagement. I'm like, oh, this
is kind of it's got somethings grounded a little bit.
I was like, I'll give this one a shot. And
I went in. I read for David Spade's character, and
I for Russell and I did the whole thing and
I was walking out and you know, they come running
after me and they're like, we wanted another scene. I'm like, oh, okay,
(27:49):
that's good news. Yeah, and I do the other scene
and everyone's laughing and I'm like, oh great. I was like,
I'm for sure testing for this, for sure. It didn't.
I get a fucking call. It was die. And then
I went to Calgary and I was doing a movie
and then I get a call like it was almost
like a year late. I was ten months later. They
want you to come test for Rules of Engagement And
(28:12):
I'm like, what what is that? Like? That show? The sitcom?
You okay, but it was for a different part because
they had shot the pilot and they're recasting. Yeah, and
so now I fly back and forth and I screen
test and I do the whole thing and with Patrick Warburton,
and I don't know what I'm doing. I don't even
(28:32):
understand the rhythms yet of a sitcom, but I'm just
like winging it. And I got the job, and I'm like,
holy shit, but this is gonna be great. It's gonna
be great because they got Patrick Warburton season sitcom Star
got David Spade season sis. They can carry the big
load of everything and I'll just be the sort of
real guy, you know, not And it was the opposite
(28:55):
because yeah, bait is as dry as it gets, and
fucking Warburton is like you know, Turkey that's been out
for two years. That's not why he is.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Right, You're like, work bitch. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Now they're relying on me to be like yeah, I'm like,
oh my god. So it took it took a couple
of year, two years, like really flying the rhythm of it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, to surrender to it.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's a rhythm in your head. It's
like I've done.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
You know, for me. I hear it like that, you know.
And good writing.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, but great sitcoms are most of the best sitcoms I.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Think are super grounded.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And so it's really just you know, it's a thirty
minutes like so there is a connection there.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I have so much respect for it.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
And yeah, nothing better than a great sitcom, nothing worse
than a bad one.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
No, I know, I know, and most of them aren't
aren't good. We got lucky, no I know, I know.
And the live audience is really fun. You know, I
had a moment. I had a moment where I completely
lost my mind. So you know, you've got the live audience,
so there's three hundred people, and for those who don't know,
don't you know, there's a real laugh in the first
(30:03):
couple takes. But then you do it over and over again,
and there's a warm up person sort of saying, oh,
you need to laugh, like you have to keep the
energy up. And I was doing this scene and sometime,
as an actor, you just go blank, at least I do.
And I went completely blank to where I couldn't remember
a line. And we started, I do one line, couldn't
(30:25):
remember it, couldn't remember it. And the audience is laughing
at first because they love when we all fucked up,
you know. And then it got quiet, and now it's
getting worse, and now I'm spiraling and now I can't
remember a goddamn thing. To finally where I screamed, I'm like,
all right, stop, we're done. We're fucking done. Here's what
we're gonna do. Cameras put the cameras that I gotta
(30:47):
go scrout script supervisor. And the script supervisor is the
one who knows the lines who can tell you when
you're messing up? And so I stand right here, what's
my first line? Blah blah blah blah. Hey you can
get get good, get this is great, okay, moving on,
move the camera, bear, What's what do I do here?
What do I say? I literally did it in small
(31:07):
little pieces. That was just I was gone. And then
I finished it, and I'm like, all right, cool, moving on,
We're done, and then the audience like erupts and like
applause and a laugh. But that, to this day is
probably one of the worst.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's what you yeah, that that like, that's my stress
dream is not knowing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
My own awful. It was so awful.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I watched Sailor my little One do that in her
first performance of Beauty and the Be she was playing
Lafu this year.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
She literally I started.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Oh God, like fix your face, fix your face, and
I was like, this is my worst I don't wanted
to die for her. But also I was having like
a visceral reaction to.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean it is, it is.
It's the biggest thing for me, you know, if I
had a you know, I hate these actors who have
like photographic memories who can like literally.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Be like all right, got it? You know, because if
I knew my lines backwards and forwards and had that confidence,
I'd be fucking cloney right now. Yeah, but I just
I get so wrapped up and like, oh yeah, I
gotta remember, I gotta remember. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
No, I don't know if I believe that, but I
do understand. I do understand that feeling of like.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, So then after Reba, you know, you kept You're
still an actor, but at what point, you know, was
it like all right, you know, is it when you
met Nick or or what did you ever give up?
Did you ever not not quit but like put it
on hold? Or was there a moment where you were
in part of your career and like I thought it
(32:53):
was going to go a different way.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I mean I felt like I was. After Reva ended.
Then it was like I I did a few shows.
I mean I did pretty much a show every year,
but nothing like the pilot wouldn't get picked up or this,
that and the other, like I did. I did a
sitcom right when we got married, which was really fun
for like a year, and so like that kind of stuff,
(33:17):
but it was nothing like really like settling in and
I definitely got just beat down.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I was like, this is a grind, you know, just.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Kind of getting thrown into stuff and you know, not
it didn't feel like super intentional. And then I got
a call about Sweet Magnolias, and I was like, it
was a last minute, like we have got to go.
We are shooting this thing. You have to make this decision.
Hear three scripts to read and you know.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So you got and I was an offer, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And I and I got on a plane three days later.
And really it's been like the you know, obviously one
of the most meaningful jobs of my life.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean it's it's been fun to like, you know,
you know, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's hard out there to have a show that lasts again,
but also just like that connects.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I mean I meet people every single.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Day, and I mean I have I get I just
someone hugged me in Target yesterday. I was on the
phone with network executive. She's like, did a stranger just
hug you? And I was like yeah, She's like, are
you concerned about that? I was like, it just happens.
It does happen a lot. I don't mind a hug
from a stranger. I thank God, Thank God, because that
(34:35):
tends to be the jobs that the jobs that I
get are the jobs that you know, people that I
don't know want to give me a hug for. But
like you, when I meet people that have watched their
show going through divorces and watch the show, you know,
the show is about female friendship and surviving like life
together and your chosen family, and and it's just been
(34:55):
a really special It's a sweet show.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's definitely sweet.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
But it's just been a really meeting and I lost
both my parents during this time and it's just carried
Yeah I.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Did, gosh and so but they did get to visit set.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It was.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
They came and surprised me for my birthday and season.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
One how many seasons is it? By the way, we.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Just streamed our fourth season like a couple months ago,
and yeah, it just they both were able to come
and they always made it to every set I've ever
worked on, and so they made it to Sweet Annoyance.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It definitely was.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
How between parents, like how we a little.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Over a year my dad died in November, right before
COVID my and he died very quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We didn't know he was sick. And my mom died
in March of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Wow. Yeah, was your mom sick as well? Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, she had dementia.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, and your dad did he know?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
No, he knew about my mom. He was so holy focused.
My dad was brilliant. He's a brilliant doctor, but he
was so ahead of the curve in terms of like
all of this, like you know, type three diabetes being
like the new what they're kind of diagnosing, like Alzheimer's
ads and all of this, like the blood sugar and
like fasting and all that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
My dad was on it. He was on it.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
He just immersed himself and used to all, you know,
channeled all of that brilliance into wanting to get my
mom better.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
And they loved each other so.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Much, and they were married for almost fifty years when
he died. Yeah, and they were each other's everything. And
I just don't think my mom. I think she was
like I'm good.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, yep, I'm good. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. You know.
It feels like that happens a lot like it does. Yeah,
I'm okay, now, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
She was a powerful, like witchy woman like had all
this cool intuition and stuff like that, and she very
much I think orchestrated her passing. And it was difficult
and very painful, but just you know, I know what
I knew where she wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, and your dad, he didn't even know himself.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
No, it was really wild.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
He started having like little tiny like strokes, like tiny
little infarms or whatever they call them. And yeah, my
dad was diagnosed with this like colangelal carcinoma, like some
sort of it's sort of by the liver bio duct
kind of thing. I'm blacked out about it. But and
we had him, we were he was here in Tampa.
We had a plane ready to like take him to
(37:44):
Seters because he was going to work with this like
surgeon oncology duo and like the cowboys of this sort of.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Like area of the body.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
And he had another stroke and never came out of
the hospital.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He was like a total of three weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Crazy.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, and my brother and I my brother's a physician
as well, and I think he was very well aware of.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well what was happening.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I was in total denial, Like I was pounding the
pavement of that hospital day in and day out, and.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
My dad helped found the women's center.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
My dad was in ob G I n at that
hospital that he passed away in, so we had a
lot of support, a lot of time.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeowow crazy like life altering. Yeah, I bet I can't
even imagine, you know, But it's it's life, and we're
at this day, we're at this age now that happens,
and it's scary and crazy at the same time. The
more we think about it or dwell upon it, we're
creating sort of this unnecessary pain that hasn't happened. Yeah,
(38:47):
you know what I mean. Like Katie and I talk
about it, it's like, oh my god, you know our
parents are getting old, even though they're very healthy. But
it's just what happens. What if? You can't live in
the what if because it doesn't happened, right, So no, and.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
You'll be okay when it does. And I always tell people,
they're like, my worst nightmare, You're going to do it. Yeah,
And but you know I'm still here and still driving
and finding purpose and enjoying my life.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
And I know they're so proud.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
And I have unbelievable like moments where I feel them
and I'm they are fully telling me that they're right there.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
But yeah, you want to enjoy it, of course.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, of course it is. It is. You don't know
until you're actually in it.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah yeah, I mean, gosh, it's not a fun club
to be in. But we're all here.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Let's stick to the book clubs.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Exactly, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Speaking of which, we're running on time here, but like,
you know, let's try to figure someone out. I mean,
if you have anything cool, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We definitely. My wheels are already spinning, so don't.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You worry about that. Yeah yeah, yeah, doing great. It's
awesome for you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
This was so nice. It was great to see you.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Good chatting, good scene each other.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Soon okay, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
She's still better than I. Oh my god, what's wrong
with me? No? Okay, I love her. She's great. You're
knowing each other for a little bit now, super fun.
Nick is the best. You so much energy, so Crazy's
like what a guy to hang out with a blast.
All right, I'm fucking starving. I need to get out
and I need to go move my body. I'm out
(40:28):
of here. I gotta leave.
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Oliver Hudson
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