The Medical Medium

Anthony William, aka the Medical Medium joins Kate and Oliver on this week's episode of "Sibling Revelry." He shares his story of how the Spirit of Compassion has helped him to heal thousands of people across the world from chronic illness. Anthony explains why "we're so sick now, we think it's normal" and reveals how things like celery juice, wild blueberries, and avoiding eggs can help prevent and cure these sicknesses. 

Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna

Produced by Allison Bresnick

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Ravalry No, no, sibling. Don't do that with your mouth, revely,

(00:33):
that's good. Today we have Anthony Williams aka the Medical Medium.
This was awesome. This was really cool. He's obviously been
I've read his books. My wife has been obsessed with
him for a long time. He is the man behind
the celery craze. He is and which I am a

(00:55):
part of now and so are you guys. Love it,
love the Celery juice. But having a on was really fun.
I did my personal research on him and saw what
he was like in this, in other shows and other podcasts,
and it was my goal to make them crack a
little bit bit. I feel like I feel like we
got there. You know. I think that his work is

(01:18):
very serious to him. It's something that he lives with.
It's also something that I think that the outside A
lot of people in the outside world find very skeptical,
which is understandable totally. And it's fun to have people
like that on because you can kind of challenge them
a little bit, and you know, you do have moments
where you think, how is this possible that someone could

(01:40):
have such a gift and a connection to, as he says,
the spirit of compassion, that he's able to really just
diagnose what's going on in someone's body. Look, there's skeptics.
There's always skeptics in everything, okay, and everything that we
sort of do or that people, especially with something like this,
and you are I mean, think about it for a second.

(02:02):
Let's just get down to brass tacks. Okay. This is
a man who's saying that there was a spirit of
compassion who contacted him from another realm at the age
of four years old or so, and he diagnosed his
grandmother with lung cancer, and now he is being told
by this spirit of compassion the remedies how to sort
of heal mankind. Okay, when you just look at that,

(02:25):
you have to you it sounds crazy. It sounds crazy,
and by what it's great about it, But he says it.
He understands that, you know what I mean, He knows
it sounds crazy. But I also you said something that
I think is really important, which is, even if it
is crazy, Everything that he's putting out there is in
the best intention of someone's health and their longevity. So

(02:50):
to sort of put it down is counterproductive really because
everything that he talks about it is quite good for you. Yes,
whether it be the food that you're eating or the
supplements that you could be taking, all of these things
are The problem is there's just a bunch of assholes
out there. Holly, No, there are. There's a bunch of

(03:10):
assholes out there, I think who are just trolling and
sort of rip them apart just because it's something different,
you know what I mean. Right, They're not looking at
sort of his intentions. They're not looking at this idea
that he's sort of trying to help people. They're just
sort of saying this isn't scientifically based and there is

(03:30):
no real empirical evidence, and you are sort of ruining
you know, I'm going to play devil's advocate to what
you're saying right now, because some of those people would
say that they feel that it's irresponsible of people to
go out and say these things because it's actually doing
people a disservice because they think they're going to get

(03:52):
healed by things that won't necessarily heal them totally. So
that being said, But isn't that up to the individual? Yes,
we are all we are all free to believe for
the things that we want to do. And I think
there's a way to say that that is kind and nice.
I'm not saying assholes and meaningful then people just having

(04:15):
these harsh criticisms and judgments. I don't mean they're all assholes,
you know, I don't. I think though, that when anybody
is trying to do something for the betterment of mankind,
that it's a wonderful thing. And his purpose in life
and his gift is to do just that. And I

(04:37):
think that he has been very helpful to a lot
of people, right and believe it or not, you know,
you can be a skeptic or not. I have not personally,
you know, gone through his program because I haven't necessarily
needed to. But I have seen I have seen you
probably should I know do his I have actually ar

(05:00):
and my wife, Aaron, has a best friend who was
going through a situation that was beyond anything you could
possibly imagine with her body. It was this chronic illness.
She didn't know what it was, went to every fucking doctor,
she read the books, was religious about practicing and it

(05:20):
it healed her, it cured her, it made her life amazing.
She has a kid and things are different. The other
thing about Anthony though, is just aside from him being
the medical medium, he's such a nice person, so nice.
He's such a sweet person, a great disposition. You know,
his energy is infectious. You know, he really cares. He

(05:42):
is passionate about this. Yeah, you know what I mean,
whether you believe it or not, okay, And everyone should
find a passion like he has found his and really
sort of go after it like he has gone after his,
and it's it's a part of him. Yeah. I'm grateful
for people who also just read the word of health
and taking care of themselves. And at the end of

(06:04):
the day, we all should be eating more fruits and
vegetables anyway. Yeah, I drink a celery juice and I
do every morning. Oh my god, I just I just
crap myself every crazy Oh I'm crapping from my throat
it oliver. I feel I feel it. It's almost like
if I if I eat breakfast and eat celery juice,

(06:26):
I can feel the egg McMuffin being pulled out of
my throat and then take the celery. You're supposed to
wake up with an empty stomach. I drink the celery juice.
This is an egg McMuffin from like nineteen ninety three.
I feel that when I take the celery juice every morning,

(06:46):
I kind of do a little walk or I'll i'll
move around with the celery juice, and I do. I
find that the I actually have felt a real difference
in the last couple of months as I've been doing
that than I ever have. Also, I also feel that
since I've been doing that, my tolerance for things that
aren't good for you is way less. So if I

(07:09):
drink I feel it in my stomach in the morning,
which is different. And then if I have celery juice,
I actually can feel the detox. It's kind of wild,
so my body feels clean. To anything that hits my
body that isn't good for it, I can feel it
having effect. Oh, I mean I don't know if that no,
you mean no, no, no, Because when I sit on

(07:30):
the toilet, which by the way, it's like sprinting nine
times out of ten because it comes on strong. Anybody
who does celery juice, I'm going to know it all nuts.
It's like everything's good, and you know, in my car
drop the kids off from school and I'm like, oh shit,
and I hit the gas and I go like one
hundred and fifty miles an hour to get home. But

(07:51):
it feels like you are eliminating just toxins out of
your body. Anyway, Really grateful he came on. It was
so much fun. Yeah, really fun. And it makes me
want to talk to more psychics and more mediums and
different fields because I think we had just such a
blast with that, you know, and and we do believe

(08:11):
in spirits and stuff like, we don't believe that we're
all alone here, even though we understand why some people
do believe that this is it. But we come from
another school, so it was fun for us anyway. Here
he is enjoy the medical medium himself. Compnyway, we always

(08:33):
start with everybody that we interview, give us your background,
like where you grew up, and then of course we'll
get into like when you were four, and we'll do
it quickly, do that. Yeah, most of my life in
the state of Mean, that's you know, right up there
in the woods. That's where our stepdad is from. Yeah,
you know there you know, like you and Kurt Russell,

(08:57):
nobody else comes from up there. I don't must be
just us too, that's it. And Stephen King, I don't know,
Like that's kind of an awesome trio. It's an interesting trio,
but it's crazy. So, you know. And and I dedicated
my life bringing information no one's ever heard about health
because it comes from up here, from above, from the
spirit of compassion. So that's been my entire mission. It's

(09:20):
like it's like solving the mysteries with the information I
hear perfectly clear. So it started at age four, heard
a voice. Woke up one morning and heard a voice.
But it wasn't in my head. I wish it was.
I swear to God it would have had an easier
life if it was it was in my head, it
would have been so much easier. It was from the outside.
And you can hear it. You actually hear it. Yeah, yeah,

(09:41):
you can hear it perfectly clear, like I hear you.
And that's what's made it so darn hard the whole time. Whoa.
And but it makes it so people don't you know,
people know in the spiritual movement, if you're exhausted or
you're tired, or you've you've say you've you've exhausted yourself
in some way in life, right, and you're and you're
spiritually tuned in and you channel and all this other stuff.

(10:04):
Well it's it's okay because you can just crash and
call it a day. It doesn't matter what condition I'm in.
I could be like book deadline, work till five in
the morning, I'm totally shot, then two hours later, no sleep,
back to work, then on the phone trying to help
somebody or whatever it is, or somebody coming into an
office and seeing me whatever, And i could be like
literally half dead. But I'm going to hear the voice,

(10:26):
because no matter what, if you're awake, you hear it.
If you're awake, you hear it. You can't avoid it.
So when you were little, you grew up in Maine.
Did you grow up by the water. Did you grow
up in the woods, Yeah, in the woods, yeah exactly.
And did you have a picturesque type childhood? Three siblings,
mom and dad, were they together? Did you have a
you know, what was your family unit? Family? Family was solid.

(10:48):
Without my family, this would have been so hard, right,
this would have been so And they had good family support. Yeah,
you had a good family. It was amazing. Nothing's easy,
nothing's easy, you know what I mean. It's like there
there was no it wasn't picture perfect, you know, and
and it's it can't be. But I've been lucky. I've
been lucky, fortunate in a sense where you know, it's
really supportive family. A lot of people know about your

(11:11):
first experience with your grandmother, I believe, and maybe you
can just tell us that story real quick, about the
first time that you realized that you were connecting with something,
you know. I woke up just like everybody wakes up
in the morning and they're up right, and I opened
my eyes and then I hear a voice, perfectly clear,
right there, right then, and it was it was scared

(11:34):
me because I'm like, who's in the room with me?
I have that, I have the same thing. I do
have this. He hears voices. Okay, yeah, no, nobody talk
about it, but I publicly, but I mean, now I do,
but I know I have this. Well okay, then exactly so.
So when you hear that, you're just get you get
frightened a little bit. And then I jumped up, I

(11:54):
looked out the window. I opened the door of the bedroom,
and you know, here I'm really small, really little, and
I'm really confused. So then I run downstairs. There really
isn't anything happening. I ask about it and the way
I could and the best way I could, and I
just kind of shucked it off for a little bit,
and then it came again and then but it was

(12:17):
always gentle. It was gentle, very compassionate, and and for
some reason it was it was agreeable, you know, it
wasn't It was frightening in a sense that who is
this right? But at the same time, it's okay, It's
going to be okay. I was starting to get a
sense that this is going to be okay. I think,
you know, the power of whatever all of this is

(12:41):
it just kind of helped me along with it because
it wasn't just the voice. It was the spirit of compassion.
I talk about it in the first book Medical Medium.
The spirit of compassion is is at the fingertip of God.
And you know, I tell people that I talked to
people before They're like, I don't believe in God, And
I say, that's okay, what do you believe? Do you
believe in something else up there? Do you believe in
the light. Do you believe in something else? There's is there?

(13:04):
Is it? Just a big ocean of do What do
you believe in God? I mean I do. Do you
believe in God in the biblical sense of God? Yes?
And very much so in that sense. Right. But but
at the same time, I mean, you know, I got
really good friends they just believe that there's this there's
this all knowing creator. Then I have I have a

(13:25):
friend that just believes it's just a light source. Right.
I got somebody that believes that it's just the universe.
And I say, we'll talk to me, and they're like, no,
it's the universe. It's just the universe, right, and and
and and it's it's all the same to me, right,
That's the thing. Yeah, you know what I mean, that's
that's the whole point. Yeah, it's all the same to me, right.

(13:45):
And so the power of that source, you know, I
think really helped me with this because I didn't take
it so hard right at the get go. I think
I was probably under some kind of trance problem. To
give me, like to soothe me and to keep me calm,
why I had to adjust from from from the spirit

(14:06):
of compassion, and I really believe that. And it's it's
a voice that's very soothing. Hey, look, if someone else
got this this gift and heard everything perfectly clear, and
it could be a different voice to them because they
needed to hear a different voice. They needed to hear
I needed to hear this voice. And specifically, do you

(14:29):
do you still hear this voice? You do? Non? And
is the voice of specific voice? Meaning like you sort
of explained that it was an older, older, older man man.
That's the voice, calm, soothing, slightly joyful, depending has has
a little bit of a sense of humor. Sounds like

(14:50):
sense of humor no one probably would think was a
sense of humor, sounds like Santa Claus. Yeah. Hey, look
I I called them Sam Clause before. I've called them
a lot of things. Now did it take you when?
Because I know in my experience, I actually had to
go to someone because I wanted to learn how to

(15:11):
shut it off for me when it started to get
it was too scary for me and I didn't like it,
and I would wait, I'd have like my friend, my
best friend's father passed away. He kept coming to me
all the time, and it just I just didn't want it.
So I was fifteen and it was interesting because I
in your book you do talk about being fifteen and

(15:32):
that being a time that you were sort of like,
I want to shut this off. Oh yeah, yeah, we
need desperate, yeah, desperate to shut this off. And I
learned how to do that. Now. Did you have the
support like I had the support of my mom, who
really does sort of reach out into this world that
I think, you know, some people have a hard time
grasping to actually take me to the right people to
teach me how to the tools. But like, did you

(15:54):
reach for your family in the way of like communicating
to them what was going on? I always stayed yes.
We always stay tight, for sure, you know, we always did,
and it was important. But no family or anyone, no
matter what, just it it when you're in that place
where I don't want to do this anymore, I don't
want to hear this voice, because it's not just hearing

(16:17):
a voice every day, it's hearing a voice telling me
everything that's wrong with every single person that comes near me,
meaning what's wrong with every aspect of their health? Are
there a drenals? Okay, what's wrong with their thibrod Do
they have a brain tumor? Do they have cancer? Do
they not have cancer? Do they have this? Do they
have that? In its non stuff? You're sitting in school.
It was like when I was sitting in school, and

(16:38):
you know, I was sitting in school, and Oliver is like,
with no, but is there a point where you feel
like you're going crazy? I mean, is there an acceptance
of this voice? Meaning like because a lot of some
people might end up on the street talking to themselves. Yeah.
What eliminates the crazy factor is that you're always right

(16:59):
with what's wrong with the person. So it's just you
can't escape that. So like like for instance, in class right, okay,
the other child sitting next to me in elementary school
all right? And and Spirit of Compassion said, this child
has meningitis. Okay, So I got up and I talked
to the teacher and I said, you know that classmate,

(17:21):
the person next to me has meningitis. And so she
got scared and she asked, she called you know upon
that classmate and asked if you're o kay, And he
said he was fine. He said he was perfectly fine.
There's nothing wrong, nothing going on. And so then she
called our parents in, his parents, my parents in. So
now we're all there, and you know, because it's kind

(17:42):
of alarming, like, first of all, where would I even
get that you're claiming something? Yeah? Yeah, and I'm really young,
so think about that. So after the dust cleared, he
didn't come to school. The next day he was in
the hospital with one hundred and five temperature with meningitis.
And so you you can can't. That's allowed the crazy
factor really easily, especially when your family knows you're always right.

(18:04):
They see how you're right all the time. You've helped
out different various people in their in their circle, and
lots of people in their circle. So you know, when
that happens, you just it. You can't be like, oh,
oh it's crazy. Yeah, and then you you know you're not.
You know you're not. And when you know you're not
and you're doing God's work or the universe's work, you know,

(18:26):
however someone might think or feel, you just you just
move forward. You're just like, okay, let's just solve problems.
Then let's save lives. Let's do that. Did it become
sort of like a lifelong journey than for you to
actually understand the science behind the pH Oh yeah, no,
it's right off the bark, off, right off the bottom,
like from the start. Right there, spirits telling me about viruses,

(18:46):
what they do, how they mutate, how they're responsible for
all these different conditions in people's symptoms, from everything from
neuropathy to trigeninal neurologia. I'm hearing that at eight nine
years old. Holy shit. So the Spirit is your ed
is your educator? Oh yeah, you didn't have to open
textbooks to learn you were being I never opened up
a textbook. All the books are advanced medical information that
doctors are using across this country and globally right now,

(19:10):
and it came from up. People steal from it, and
I call it steal is. They'll take it, they'll stick
it in some other bogus article that has misinformation or
a science study that didn't do anything for anybody, and
they'll take my piece that's actually only from Spirit, it's
never been from anywhere else. They'll put it in places
that because you know, because they they almost like they don't.

(19:30):
I've noticed a lot of people in the industry don't
want to give Spirit of Compassion to credit. They don't
want to give me the credit for being the guy
that brought the celery juice here. That's saving millions of
people's lives across this globe. Right in the sense where
they'll say, oh, it must have been here before him.
It was never here before. That's the whole point. It

(19:53):
started with me in nineteen seventy five juicing clary for
conditions and all the reasons why. And it's still with
me now. But you know, people don't. They just don't
like the fact that it comes from up here, which
I respect. Yes, people people have people have a right
to need empirical evidence to trust. It's a good point.

(20:15):
And I think this is what's really interesting. I always
have these conversations with people because I I call this
a very practical, scientific based psychic type of personality. Right,
so I'm very intuitive, I have my but at the
same time, I recognize that imperial empirical evidence is something
that people need to have faith or to believe a
lot of the time. And yet what's fascinating is that

(20:38):
most especially in our country, are very religious, so they
have these strong belief systems, and yet when it comes
to science, they don't actually apply those things to their beliefs,
which is something that is also not empirical evidence. So
I find that, like you know, no matter what anybody
says right, or no matter what any of the name

(21:00):
sayers say, the power of belief and faith is just
as important as saying the empirical evidence of saying, this
thing is actually going to cure this and this is
why and here's the evidence. Oh totally. Well, we're jumping
ahead a little bit, but I watched that documentary Heal
Sure that you were wrong, right, and it was about mind,
body and amazing, amazing. It was really eye opening for me,

(21:22):
and it was just about how we have the power
to heal ourselves and that belief alone is sometimes just
as powerful as any sort of medicine, you know what
I mean? So real quick, just jumping back the person
I don't want to forget, but but your parents, So
when you were hearing, you know, the spirit, and it
became more a part of your life where they one

(21:43):
hundred percent accepting of this, Oh yeah, they were. They
were one hundred percent accepting of this right off the
start because of what I'm saying. How can you think
about we're talking about the time the time this was right,
there's no internet and that there's no anything there's I mean,
the information that was coming out of me was just

(22:05):
you can't deny. I mean, we're talking about I'm talking
about different viruses, different bacteria. I'm talking about what creates acting.
I'm talking about how antibiotics create anti antibiotic resistance, strip
varieties that create acting. And UTIs that nobody still even
knows still today stuff in this that and much of
it that I've had to in my practice of I mean,

(22:27):
I've worked on two hundred thousand individuals one on one
before the publications of the book's medical medi Wow and so,
and with the information that has come from Spirit of
Compassion and since the beginning, since it was always undedeniable,
when I was a stock boy at age twelve in
a small grocery store, and I built my own client's

(22:49):
hell up already, And they're pushing carriages around and I'm saying,
well this is you have diabetes. You're like, well, where'd
you get my medical records? Now, when I say hey,
you have this, they're thinking, oh, you packed it online
to get a medical record. I don't even know if
you can, right, if it's even possible. But you hear
that now every now and then. Yeah, from a skeptic
or something. But the bottom line is it's like it

(23:09):
was I built up that clientele really early. It was
undeniable when you're when you actually have clients and you're thirteen,
fourteen years old, it's crazy. Were they paying you? Yeah?
They were? How much were you making at thirteen years old?
I wasn't asking for anything. They were just offering. Were like, hey, ca,

(23:30):
d of scan me. I could have put a hat
out or something like that, like drop drop the tips
in there, dropp Well here's the thing when you were
probably you were probably a small mains you know, Maine
is not the biggest place in the world. I don't
know what town you grew up in, but I'm sure
that this caught on, meaning like, oh, the Anthony kid,
the William kid, Well you got to bring him over
to the house because he can saves a lot of
doctor bills. Yeah, it doesn't you know exactly, Well that

(23:52):
was what happened. Did your parents use you? They not
use you, but did they say, oh, honey, like you
go see Mary down here and let's I want to
see she's okay? I mean, was that part of your gig?
Was your family bringing you to different friends and stuff.
Oh yeah, that happened all the time that was going on,
there was that, and so it it. But here you're
trying to do this in jungle, real life though, right, expectations,

(24:18):
all of it. Right, Can you read yourself? Of course?
See I can't, of course, of course the reason why,
the reason why because I'm not doing the reading, of course,
But of course question you don't have to answer this.
It's person I go deaf, I'm in trouble. Why because
you can't you will the whole point, because it's from diagnose.

(24:39):
It's actually block That's what I've been trying to tell you.
It's actually blockable. It's coming here into the ear from
the outside, not from the inside. And I hear it
as clear as you from the outside. And I could
take my hand and wave it like this and and
kind of block it. If you go whatever, you don't
want to hear somebody You still hear them though, yelling
in the back right, Well, that's what it is, and
you can't stop it. Wild. So that's the whole point

(25:02):
of what made it so hard. Where I was, I
was like, okay, well this is the only thing I'm
going to be able to do. Nothing else ever it's this,
I'm stuck with it. I mean, I wanted to, like,
you know, I wanted to like run a little restaurant
when I was ten years old. I wanted to like
cook eggs for everybody, even though Spirit said eggs actually
feed all manners of disease, even though no one knows

(25:23):
that yet. Okay, but damn it, but shit, because what
it was was the eggs were actually used in my
labs one hundred years ago, eighty ninety years ago. They
were used in the labs to raise all of the
bugs that we all have now that somehow escaped the labs.
Spirit of Compassion says and got into us and creates
the fibromyalgia and the hot shmotis, diroiditis and multiple sclerosis

(25:45):
and all these other things. We eggs were used as
the food for that. So Spirit of Compassion is like,
doesn't matter if you're vegan or paley or whatever you like,
or animal protein or not. Take the eggs out and
you'll have a shot to heal. You keep the eggs in,
you're one egg away from getting sick or whenever that's
gonna be, whether it's a month from now or whether
it's going to be another time from now. But I
wanted to run this egg shack, cook scrambled eggs for

(26:06):
everybody every day because everybody was happy when you cook
them just right, and you don't care what I'm eating
eggs like, well, you can still eat them, don't take
them away. Do you get an annual physical? No, you
don't get a physical. Do you don't see medical doctors? No? No, never. Okay,

(26:28):
but what if okay, okay, what if you're really sick,
will you go see a doctor? Well, it all depends
on what kind of sick you're talking about, because here's
the difference. Okay, if for some reason, my gallbladder wants
to explode and I need a really good surgeon, yeah,
which I've never experienced that, I'm going to get that.

(26:49):
So I'm gonna go. You better believe it, because I've
always said there's life saving medicine, life saving doctors. That's
not the problem. I'm not anti science either. It's just
that science and research knows nothing about chronic illness. They
just know a lot about other things. See chronic illness.
There's the big mistake was everybody who believes in science
doesn't believe in science anymore. After they've been sick long

(27:09):
enough to get screwed over by medical research and science.
Because medical research and science only protects one thing. Medical
research and science about what I'm about. So I'm going
to say right now, here's how it was. Medical research
and science protects instead of people, it protects itself. That's
how it works. Because that's why they've been telling women

(27:30):
they're crazy and it's all on their head in the
nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, that they're not
really sick, and then they this is how it works.
And now they say, your body's attacking itself, you're faulty,
your genes are faulty. It's the worst shame game, shaming
women's bodies to body shaming to the max. Right now,
the medical research and science and chronic illness is the
body shame women and demean them and disempower them. It's

(27:52):
built like that. Why women, Because women, Because women are
that critical and important, because they change the rules. Women
have power men don't, and the rule changers. That's why.
That's why even though men have always tried to hold
the power to change the rules, right now women have
the power to really change rules and That's why disempower them,

(28:15):
Knock them down so that when they get sick, they
can't do their careers, they can't do what they want
to do. They get weakened, break them down. That's what
the industry does. I'm not talking about the great doctors.
All the doctors are amazing, women, doctors, men, doctors, all
of them. Not talking about science. I know scientists, for
God's sake, I know great ones. That's not it. I
know lab technicians, but that's not the problem. We're so

(28:39):
sick now we think it's normal. You're supposed to be
normal to have fibroids and endometriosis. It's not supposed to
be normal. It's supposed to be normal to have fibro, fibroids, hashimotos,
some other thyroid problem, totally normal now, all of it's normal.
But science of research won't cough it up. They won't
chalk it up. There's grandfathered laws going back long before
our time that made decisions for us, us already for us,

(29:01):
without our choice involved. And nobody knows this except sverit
to compassion and and I've been trying to send that
message around and you know what, I don't think people
like it because I've been I've been gaining some speed
and it's pissing some people off, and I get it.
I get it. But I'm about protecting womenkind and course
men men, but protecting womenkind and making sure they get

(29:22):
what they need so they can heal, giving them a chance.
You go to the doctor funcchial messine doctor today and
they're like, it's autoimmune. Your body's attacking itself. And they
tell your seventeen year old daughter or eighteen year old
daughter that our bodies destroying itself. We are in such
a bad place right now, and no one really cares
or no one really knows. Well, there's what I'm fighting for. Everything.
There's so much there's there's so much autoimmune. It does

(29:43):
feel like the autoimmune. Oh yeah, it's like everyone that
you know or family or everybody has some kind of
auto and autoimmune is a mystery word for blaming everybody
that their their immune system is destroying its organs and
its body right the person's body. It's not the truth,
though it was a theory in nineteen fifty, so that

(30:04):
was it. It's viruses creating you guys, are It's it's
viruses and bacteria. But mostly viruses. Okay, creating inflammation in
the body. Don't you think though, it is important to
have some science that can back these things because you're
talking about inflammation. I wish there was there's a lot,

(30:26):
but there are a lot of doctors and people that
I really respect and love that are so into this. Well,
what about diet. Actually that's an interesting question because all
these diet books have come out, diets have have evolved
or changed. Every fucking year. There's a new diet. Right,
there's the pale What do you eat? Like? What's your
what do you mean for breakfast? Well, the thing is, look,

(30:46):
I'm always about taking time. Heavy metal, yes, yes, toxic
heavy metals is critical. It's salad. So listen, So salad
for like, do you do you eat me? It's correct me.
I don't eat meat. You don't eat meat, But listen,
I recommend meat all the time to people. I recommend
all kinds of foods to people. That's not the problem.

(31:09):
Meats not the problem of why people are sick. So
it doesn't have to do as much with the diet.
I mean, can I eat anything I want other than eggs?
It all depends. It all depends on what's in you.
It all depends on what's in you, how many metals
you have, yeah, and how many bugs you have. So
that's the rush, and we're like, okay, we can keep

(31:30):
on eating all these things and keep on eating all
these different things, and then all of a sudden those
bugs feed and get happy, and then boom, You're like,
what's this tingles and numbness? Why do I have this
tingles and numbness? Why do I have Why am I
not feeling good? What's this fatigue? And now you're at
a doctor and they have no idea why, they'll give
you a trend to eat reason or something. Now you're
at another doctor, another doctor, you see, And so that's

(31:50):
where spirit of compassion broke all this down, broke the
doors down. People are like they're like living their lives
now because of his information. But because of it, well
foods right, right, Okay, back to the fish and all. Okay, yeah, okay,
if you don't have a lot of heavy metals, a
lot of mercury in your system, a lot of aluminum,
a lot of other metals in your body, right, if

(32:12):
you're one of those people that just were born with
less of them in there, didn't get a lot more
in you somehow through a pharmaceutical or anything else. And
then and if you didn't have a lot of pesticides
and herbicides, fungicides, petrochemical somehow, plastics, all that build up,
if you didn't, if you're if your load of all
that junk is down in your liver and it's not

(32:32):
really high, then it may not feed your epstein bar
virus that everybody has one of the more sixty varieties
of epstein bar, which I'm going to talk about it.
And should I be drinking while you're drinking, Yeah, that's
a secret. That's from sir, I know in anybody that way. Yeah,

(32:54):
the depstein bar definitely. I want to touch buggers. We
have close friends who have You got a lot of Okay,
I'll just cut it down in this nutshell, total nutshell.
You got a lot of poison, and you got a
few bugs. They get together, the bugs eat the poison,
and you get sick. Ax masariasis is caused by epstein
bar feeding off of copper inside the liver then releasing

(33:15):
a dermatoxin. I'm the first person to come out with
that ever, and it's it's healing people. And when the
compassionate game told you that. Okay, wait, okay, one thing
comes from in went so fast I didn't understand. I
got it. I got it. You did not get it.
So hold on, I'm saying it back. The bugs, the
bugs eat the poison, right, and then the poison the

(33:35):
bugs then eat the copper from the liver and then
they ship out. Yes, the bugs need bugs have to eat.
That information came from up here, and now you're hearing
it out there in articles and stuff. But it only
came from here. Viruses eat food. That's medical medium information, okay,
And now it's taking over out there because people are

(33:57):
realizing it. Lab tech nisions are actually chalking it up,
finally talking about it. Viruses eat food and then they
crap it out. And when they crap it out, it's
freaking toxic, like methyl toxic like wors than metal toxic
like neurotoxins. Right, So everybody gets a table's numbness, the
aches and pains, and you get you get, you get

(34:23):
the floaters, You get the floaters in the eyes, right,
you get the floaters in the eyes, and then you
get yeah, right, you get the eye floaters. Yeah I got.
And then my wife is sitting here in the air.
Now she got the floaters in the eyes, and you
need a nap when everybody else doesn't need a nap.
And then you got all this stuff going on right well,
this one and got the floaters in the eyeballs. She's

(34:44):
just fatigued all the thing. And you get about a dizzyness.
Some people get about a dizziness. Some people get vertigos,
some people get tonight all of a sudden. The ringing
in the air isn't just what everybody says in the
spiritual world, which isn't correct. Is you're hearing a ringing
because somebody's talking about you or or spiritual energies talking
to you. No, sorry, you're getting a ringing because it's
the first beginning of your first bouts of mild tonights

(35:06):
that are acute that will come later around down the
road if you don't clean up your epstein bar and
start eating better or learning medical medium information. That's no
one is immune or protected from from all of it
unless they know, unless they know what they need to
do to protect, no one is safe. You know what

(35:27):
you know what Spirit said to me, and as a younger,
Spirit said, here's the key. You need to know the
cause and what to do about it, how to fix it,
cause and how to fix it. Still in today's research
and science, I don't care how many articles and bogus,
bullshit articles you can throw at me and on my lap.
I don't care whatever's going on there. Women are suffering.
Two hundred and fifty million Americans alone have no no

(35:48):
like cause, no meaning for their symptoms and conditions. No
one's telling them what's wrong, like really wrong. People are suffering.
People who can't take a shower, women who can't get
into their shower. We have to time it or it'll
flatline them, and they're back in bed right, And it's just, oh,
you you must have autoimmune, Oh you got loopus? What's lupus?
Nobody knows? But these are just labels. What's ra Nobody

(36:11):
knows what it's all labels for. Nobody knows nothing. Signs
of research knows nothing about chronic illness. But don't get
me wrong, they know a crap ton about a whole
bunch of other stuff. Science and research is good with
a lot of things. I respect it, I like it,
I love it. I know a lot of amazing people
that are brilliant in this world, and they work with science,

(36:33):
they work with physics, they work with things, but when
their daughter's sick, they quickly realize there's no answers. Is
the remedy then, is the remedy celery juice and the
things that you have put in your book or do
you have a remedy meaning you have this information, you
have this new information that that science and technology does

(36:55):
not have, that is being spoken to you from the
spirit of compassion, that it's coming from a worldly, beautiful place.
But is there a remedy for this? The information is there,
but is there an actual way to solve Absolutely, there's
waves for instance, exemonce risis. Okay, people who can't even

(37:15):
put clothes on, they can't wear clothes, all right, not
just talking about mile Acima. And then they go off
of gluten and they don't know why it's helping, but
it helps a little. And then they're getting axima again
and they're flopping around with different diets or what I'm
talking about. Axima. It's just bad, right, And they went
to ten doctors and their body's attacking itself, their bodies

(37:35):
destroying itself, they're told, right with acima, And then yeah,
if you get the copper which science research has no
idea about. That came from spirit. With the match, you
get the copper out of the liver, and then you
get the bugs down like the Epstein bar and you
start killing it off. You're free from xemon s rise?
How do you get the copper out of the liver?
Have you met medical medium? Have you metal detox movie?
It's critical. It's critical. It's what's getting people with their

(37:58):
bodies like, and what's in it's in that, you know
what I mean? Like what what are we what are
we eating? What are we eating? Yep, yep, there's there's
there's the Fab five, the Fab five I call it. Yeah,
it's all in his books, I know, but not everyone
has read the book. Who's listening to the podcast? Yeah,
it takes a certain it takes it takes five things

(38:18):
put together in this movie. Yeah, it takes a little
bit of dolls, which comes from the ocean. Yeah, okay,
Atlantic dolls takes cilantro. But cilantro doesn't work on its own.
People don't realize that it doesn't work for a Yeah,
yeah takes cilantro. Okay, it takes wild blueberries, yeah, wild,

(38:41):
it has to be wild blueberries. It takes barley grass,
juice powder, and it takes spirrillina, a really good one.
I always tell people just you know, go to the
medical medium community. You see what they're using. They know
the best stuff, which is on my directory or whatever,
and you'll see the best speare of lean and so forth.
But the bottom line is it takes that collaboration of things,

(39:02):
because here's how metals work. It doesn't take corilla. That's disastrous, awful.
It moves metal around a little bit into a new
spot in your brain, so you get sicker. Just don't
do corillalla. It's a response. It's like if someone was
to carry glass, a whole bunch of glass, you know,

(39:24):
and they were their responsibility was to carry glass, and
but they were the kind of person that just didn't
have the control and dropped it all the time. That's
what corella is. It actually drops the metal. It can't
hold on to it. It could barely move it. And
when it starts pushing it and moving it like it's
it's too weak. It can't pick up the metal out
of the brain tissue, out of your glial cells. It can't.

(39:46):
It can't get the oxidation in your brain out, So
you can get rid of your depression and your anxiety
and your Alzheimer's and your memory loss. You can't get
it doesn't work. Instead, it makes it worse, It moves it,
it smears. The metal research doesn't know this. But even
with all my work five books out, okay, five New
York Times best selling books and everything else out or

(40:07):
whatever it, what happens is that everybody's still using Kroha
and I still see it. And it's like it's like
the young people are indoctrinated into kroll again by I
guess practitioners are somebody who just doesn't know. And it's
disastrous because if you really have problems, it's not gonna work.
Are you frustrated? I mean you sound like frustrated, meaning
like you're frustrated you have all this information even though,

(40:30):
let's be honest, you're making good money and you're doing
your thing. There's no doubt about that, as we all should.
But even though, are you still frustrated, like you guys
just pay attention. Well, I'm frustrated because they turn down
good money. You do, yeah, but I work for the people.
I work for the chronic LEO okay, and yes I

(40:51):
need money. Enough to survive. Sure, but there's no way
you can call me rich. But one thing for sure
is I could get rich tomorrow, and I just I
just won't do it. Everybody thinks I own a celery
farm or root cause celery shortage in the United States.

(41:14):
How does it feel to be that person? I know,
I know that's hard. I do own celery farms. I
have a theory that before you release the book, you
bought all the the United States because you knew what
was gonna happen. And look, I may jump in with
somebody on something if it can change the world that much.
I might jump in somebody, you know tomorrow, like, all right,

(41:36):
let's create this. Okay, let's do this if it's gonna
save the planet. But the bottom line is, you know,
I let everybody else make the money, and they should.
They should. I'm on the juice, right, I'm on the juice,
celery juice. I shipped my brains out every morning, which
is it's good. I mean, it feels it honestly feels
like I am releasing toxins out of my body. It
feels amazing. But I do go to Whole Foods or

(41:59):
wherevery wan to buy celery and half the time there's
nothing left. There's nothing there. I mean, it's really amazing
to see from a product standpoint, how effective, you know.
And they're growing a ton of it. I mean a ton,
they're growing hundreds of more than Yeah, I know. I'm

(42:20):
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that we do. That's amazing. That's a good idea. By
the way, I'm gonna give my girlfriend a Rothy she's
gonna wear tonight. I'm walking on plastic bottles. We're recycling

(42:40):
all through the night. Yeah, that was good. You even
got in like a talking point, which is the whole
reason why we love Rothy's. Except the rhyme night and night. Yeah,
that's kind of amateur. Okay. They are made out of
recycled plastic water bottles. They're machine washable, they're comfortable, they're

(43:02):
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this seems to be the ultimate. I mean, thirty five
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(43:22):
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(43:47):
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so no. That stopped when the waiting list got into
the millions five years ago. Millions millions the waiting list

(44:08):
got into and that's when I had to stop because
Spirit of the Compassion said, you have to put the
book out now, the first book, and I held it off.
Spirit of Compassion asked me to put the book out
ten years before and even earlier. I just I wanted
to help out as many people. I mean, I was
on call twenty four to seven. I worked seven days
a week for six straight years, without half a day off,

(44:30):
no holidays, nothing. That's how I was all night long.
I was woken up throughout the night with an emergency
service that called me you name it. I had relationships
with dozens and dozens of doctors, the ones i've trusted
and their patients, you know, helping with their patients. Like
that was my life. I was saturated in it and
I didn't mind it. I just never slept. I never

(44:53):
took care of myself. I still don't take care of
myself today on any level. Practically. I drink celary juice.
I eat it as good as I can. Which I eat,
which to do? I don't have to time, Literally don't
have time. It's been about everybody and their pain and suffering.
That's what it's been. You wouldn't believe. So when you
look at the negative stuff that's you know, that's out

(45:14):
there because they think I'm the sellery entrepreneur, king king,
or they think I cornered the globe with money or something,
or they think I'm you know, taking from the poor
and the sick. You know, it's just unbelievable where that
stuff comes from. And if they knew what I've been
through and what I dor. How do you deal with

(45:36):
the skeptics, the naysayers. What's your approach? Do you ever
find that you get defensive? Well, you know, I'm not
supposed to get defensive. Yeah, but I'm a human being, right,
I'm just like you know, there's skeptics in every field
and every god, there's skeptics about everything. But how do
you handle it? The first thing I say is, you

(45:56):
haven't been that sick yet, right, Okay? Yeah, Because when
you are and you're sucking it out and you find
out your precious science of research hasn't done anything for you,
and you're like on your hands and knees like a
lot of people are, then you know, then you know,
think about it, and then come back to me, because
until you're there, you'll never know. And that's the thing.

(46:17):
Anybody who's ever ripped me down, ripped me apart, took
cheap shots, because that's what darkness does. Anybody whoever has
never was sick. So what are the top things that
you like? If you were to say today if I
had a wand that I could wave, which which you do.
Actually you have, you have a wand but if I
could have, everyone could get off these foods. What would

(46:38):
those foods? Okay, number one food of all time to
get off of is eggs. All it does, all it does.
And here's the here's the amazing thing. Here's the amazing thing. Okay,
really that's tough. Eggs is a tough one, right, yeah, sure,
with with Okay, here's the thing. If you're a woman
and you're battling fibroids and demetriosis cysts, o very insists

(47:01):
the eggs will worsen it quickly. Even though you go
to the doctor like you need to go on lots
of eggs. You go on the best functional medicine doctor.
You need to go on lots of eggs. You know,
you need wherever, whoever it is, practitioner, or you need
to go on lots of eggs. That's what you'll hear
if women get told to eat eggs. It's like literally
universal where women are supposed to eat eggs. Meanwhile, it

(47:22):
worsens every single reproductive system problem there is and gets
you into the hot flashes perimenopause right, all that early.
It gets you into all these problems. It's the first
food that should just be stopped. It was great one
hundred years ago or more. It was a food staple
that was critical. It was a good food that was
actually partially good for you and couldn't hurt you. The

(47:45):
industry abused it, they took it, they fed the bugs.
The bugs got into women. You can use your imagination
on how that might have happened, but it got into
women and then they're feeding those bugs and we got
this epidemic of chronic epic, epic epidemic of chronicles. So
that's just how it is. What's another food? You got
the eggs? Another food is dairy products? Yeah, why cooting,

(48:11):
sheep's milk, goat's milk? Key for why why? Every now
and then out here I'm on teafer and I'm like,
because you're feeding the bugs. Okay, eat that too, but
it's but they eat it less, they eat it less,
but they still eat it. And epstein bar. There's over
sixty varieties of epstein bar mutations and variations. That's information
spiritual compassion brought to here, and no one knows it yet.

(48:34):
Science research just believes it's one virus. It's not. And
each variety eats something different. It eats different things. It
likes eggs more than it likes dairy, It likes dairy moore,
then it likes gluten. It likes and glutens the next one.
Do you have like a little black book of all
the things that you've like, the Spirit of compassion has
told you that you just like make sure that you
check off every time I got a lot I got.

(48:54):
I got volumes of information from Spiritual Compassion that's not
even medical because I've asked personal questions on what's happening
up there, how the planets work, what's going on, what
about angels? I asked about, what about demons? What about
what people think are darkness? I've asked every question you
can possibly just out of my boredom, out of my

(49:15):
boredom through life, because that's changing gears. And I'm gonna
call your aunt for now? What do you do for fun?
Forget about this first time? Yeah, what do you? What
do you do for fun? Man? Like? What is your
do you do you drink or smoke me or anything
like that? Or you don't smoke weed, you play golf,
don't smoke weed. I don't drink. I won't but alcohol

(49:37):
in me, but I still like, you know, my friends drink,
so my friends drink to the drink wine Like hey,
hey aunt, he w a w it's got antioxidants, right,
but yeah, yeah, yeah does So what's your fun day?
Does the Spirit of Compassion want me to have this tequila?
I'm just curious? Yeah? What do you do? My fine? Like,

(49:59):
what do you do. My fun is nature. But here's
here's one thing that goes on right. Fun is nature
because I could get away from everybody. I could get
away from everybody. There's nothing worse than hundreds and hundreds
of readings come through, you know, I could. I was
on a plane and with my assistant, and there's all
this commotion in the back and everybody's freaking out. Stewardness
is running around, and the flight attendants are running around

(50:19):
or whatever, and everybody's freaking and and I told my assistant,
I said, it's somebody's having a seizure back there's a
guy having a seizure back there, because spirit told me.
And they're like, okay, few, at least we know what's
going on. My assistant was like few and eased off,
and then and then later it all calmed down, and
then we asked the flight attendant and she was like,
there's a guy having a seizure in the back, but

(50:39):
that's not all every person walking by in the on
the plane, I'm getting a read one after another, So
I need peace. So what happens and you can't stop it?
And here's the problem. I go blind, Like right now,
I'm half blind. Because we have this many people in
the room, and so because of that spirit has been
giving me information. Then I'm going I'm getting snowblindness. Yeah,
and so think about a big crowd. I really get

(51:01):
screwed with a big it's really bad. But but here
are you saying you know information about us right now
that you it's unavoidable. Okay, but why aren't you telling you?
Do you ever do you ever walk around and be like, oh,
I got that guy, I did that. I did that. Listen.
I mean you're like the guy passes you in the airport,
like that guy. Fuck. I you know, I grew up

(51:22):
yanking on shirt sleeves right saying you got a brain tumor, mister,
And I paid the price of knocking on people's shoulders
and said, hey, listen, you got an aneurism and you
gotta get it checked out. Because I believe in surgeons.
I believe in I know a neurosurgeon. It saves lives
every day. And I'm like, wow, I don't know how
you do it. He says, well, we use robots now,

(51:44):
but the point is is the point is, and that's technology.
But but he tells me at the same time, chronic illness, suffer,
as he says, we can't help. They just lay in
their bed and they'd slowly die, or they just survive,
poor God willing. Here's the thing, here's the thing, right.
The crowds are so intense on me, right, so why
stop the lectures? The last one I did I could

(52:05):
only handle. They had a cap it at five thousand
to stop people from coming in because five thousand was
all before I would feel like I got would get
a cranial seizure. So so I mean I could pack
a place now at thirty thousand. I was told that,
I was told wherever I fly in this world right now,
to be fifty thousand in a stadium right now. So
I have to so I couldn't do it, So I can't.

(52:26):
I have a question about that. Actually I have a
question because because listen, real, real quick, do you feel
a responsibility to get it right? Because in everything in
life there is a failure rate. I'm personally wrong all
the time. Spirit's always right, But even if the spirit,
if spirit of compassion tells you that that person has

(52:49):
a brain tumor, there has to be some some percentage
of failures in that And do you account for that,
and there's do you feel like a responsibility to be correct? Look,
I feel like I feel like science grandfathered science and
research in women's health is responsible. I feel like the

(53:10):
laws that were made without anybody's choice, women's you know,
it's all about women's choice, right right, Well, guess what
choices were made for them purposely to keep them sickened
down in to where we are now. And they were
made back in the old days, and they're in vaults
and you're not gonna see it on the internet, no
way in hell. Okay, And those choices were made like

(53:31):
the body attacking itself to make sure women are kept down.
That there's no answers ever given to women with chronic illness.
That's one. The other one is the gene theory. Okay,
all our genes went bad in the last thirty years,
you mean centuries and centuries and centuries go by, and
then all our genes went bad in the last ten years. No,
our genes aren't bad. It's telling a woman you're faulty,
your genes suck. You actually are are unhealthy because your

(53:54):
genes are the problem. It's it's inexcapable. You're a bad person,
meaning your physical body is a bad unit. Discard it's
set up like this to hurt everybody, and men and
boys and young boys and you know, children and all
that are all getting affected too. It's not, you know,
But the point is, it's like set up right like that.
Spiritual compassion is always right. Doesn't mean I'm always right personally.

(54:16):
If I don't go with spiritual compassion and I have
my own opinion, I could be wrong about something. I
was sitting in my garden up in Maine, and my
neighbor came over and said, he said, I don't know
how you got my wife better. She couldn't walk. You're
the one that found out she had arsenic poisoning and
nobody else did, no doctor. She was crippled. Now she's
walking right. And I was younger, so I was cocky, right,

(54:37):
I was a little cockier. And I was in the
garden and I was pulling up onions and I was
in there, and I stood up and I looked at him,
and I said, that's because I'm always right, never forget it,
damn it, and I'm never wrong, never gonna be wrong,
and it's always gonna be like that. I got up,
I walked three feet. I stepped on a hoe and

(54:59):
it's like a kind of whole thing, and it slipped
it when he smacked me in the face and knocked
me out, and I was on the ground in the
gardens like Tom and Jerry. I got woken up okay
by the neighbor standing over me, like are you okay?
And then Spirit said remember this and never forget it.
I'm always right and you're wrong. Keep that in mind

(55:21):
whatever you do. I'm right and you're wrong. And I
right there. From there on I realized, yeah, I meant
you know. I could walk outside this door after this
podcast and step off your step wrong and laying on
my face. And I was wrong on how I judge
that step. And but Spirit's not wrong about this inflavor,
I'm not sure. When I was in my teens, I

(55:42):
was like, I'm not listening to you today. I'm gonna
do my own thing and then break my wrists or something.
Can you tune him out? Can tune him out? You
can't be tuned out? Can't. I just can't hear this
is back. This is back to your question, what what
do I do for fun? I need to be in nature,
but I never get the chance anymore. I like being

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in nature where things are common good. But here's what happens.
All I need is jetliner way up flying over and
the reads come through and I gotta wait. So I'm
sitting on a rock in nature like son on a bitch.
You can't just just get that plane. This is the
only podcast ever that I've ever sworn ever in Really,
I've never sworn. Is this because you're influencing? Because I've

(56:25):
never sworn in any in anything I've ever don live
or cut it, no lecture. I've never sworn. And it
doesn't matter because you're in our and you guys are
a bad influence. Man, I can't. What do you do
for fun? You come to our house and you do

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the poll? It is fun, it is Actually, it's the
funnest thing I've done that makes me happy, because that's
that was the whole reason why I wanted to do.
I had a question actually about you know, I was reading,
uh know, some of the controversies obviously, and there are
you know, people who are such devout followers of you
that they're like foregoing chemotherapies or you know, certain traditional

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medicines because they're so wholeheartedly into what you do, do
you say to those people. I'm not saying you have
to give an answer necessarily to these people, but is
that something you would support or tell them. Look, you
need to do what you have to do as far
as you know staying alive. You know, modern medicine for

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cancer and so forth, like chemotherapy and everything is, it's
come a long way. In the old days they used
to they I mean, it was so it was so wretched,
you know, I mean, you didn't stand a chance in
the old days. You didn't. The chemotherapy in the old
days just annihilated you. They've learned to alter the chemistry,
back it down small dosages. Took forever for those protocols

(57:55):
to change, you know. And so I'm not anti any
of that. What I'm anti is chemotherapy for something they
know nothing about. And that's what they're doing now too.
So they're using chemotherapy for all these autoimmune disorders. Disastrous
because you can't kill the virus that's creating the autoimmune disorder,

(58:17):
and the chemotherapy just weakens the immune systems of the
virus can get stronger. So I'm a little I'm a
little put off by that one. Back in the old time,
don't they give they give chemo now for I mean
they're just they're just they're tacking lime disease. I mean
they're just all of it. They're just tacking it in.
They're attacking it on. And let's learn about why people

(58:38):
are really sick before we just start throwing like darts
that that heavy and the swords, you know, using swords
a heavy and the old days chemotherapy was just it
was like the lime disease in the old days, where
antibiotics until the person is literally crippled or gone. And
and it wasn't until Cat's Claw came onto the scene
because the spirit of compassion back thirty years ago when

(58:59):
when you know, I was teaching doctors how to use
cat's cloth for the line patients. That change that so
that the antibaotics drop. That's because of me. Am I
gonna get credit never and do I want it to know?
But I wish spirit would get I wish I wish
spirit would get kind of sum credit. Spirit though of compation.
The problem is it's not about credit. It's about making
sure the information stays pure and that they know where

(59:21):
its sources so they can keep on getting more information.
To heal them. That's it's not about credit. It's just
about that. But the bottom line is, so the chemotherapy
is sure like chemotherapy now is always coupled with alternative medicine.
Now you get most cancer doctors are like, yes, take
your this oil, take your that, take your cur human,
take your take. And they're saying that that's amazing and

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that's a big change. Yeah, and that's why people are
really getting a lot of help from it where they
most everybody will go to the the chemotherapy route because they're
scared and their family pushes them into it literally. So
so now though they have a shot because the their
doctor's allowing them to go to a natural path too,
or a functional doctor says, you need to be on

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coenzyme Q ten ala, you need to be on all
these other things, and so that's that's a miracle, right,
that's a miracle. And the chemotherapies have changed and altered
now where they're not so harsh. They've they've lowered dosages
and then they've done cocktails that that they're using to
try to explore to see if it affects cancer. I'm
not against it. I'm not against somebody's decision to go chemotherapy,

(01:00:27):
I I and in radiation. I am against radiation therapy
for cancer unless it's just for pain medic pain management,
to get somebody off of morphine. You know, That's when
I'm that's what I'm supportive of radiation, direct current radiation
for when you're literally on morphine. I mean, you got

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like a tumor, you're suffering, you're in agony. I mean,
I've known so many people in agony. That's when I'm
okay with that. But radiation on a whole in general,
when someone doesn't have that going on, totally anti that.
Do you also believe food, what we eat, how we
eat is a direct reflection of our mental state. Absolutely.
I talk about life changing foods my book Like a Plug,

(01:01:09):
My Life Changing Foods book, Life changing Food, life changing foods,
reading it tonight, actually life changing foods. I talk about
how these foods also have powers that help our emotional state. Absolutely.
Like the wild blueberries, the wild blueberries of Maine. Okay,
they're so adapt they're so I don't know, I don't know.

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I got wild blueberries. And like Vermont the wild blueberry
it's not cultivated, right, it's wild, So it survived thousands
of years of abuse from the weather in different conditions,
I mean, coming out of the ice age. Wild blue
were just resilient. You can burn. You can Maine blueberries.
You can burn the wild blueberry fuel down my soul

(01:01:57):
something wild blueberry productions wild you can. You can burn
the wild blueberries down to the ground, like all of
it until it's ash and it'll come up the next year.
You can burn other things they're not coming up. That
sounds pretty I love it right right. The wild blueberry
has the power to help somebody rise out of the ashes.
I'll tell you what with the phoenix, because it does

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that itself too, right, It has so much power to it.
And so when you eat those, you're getting ten thousand
years or more of this power. That's that that adaptogenic ability,
because that's the true adaptogenic food on the planet. It's
that one that's the only one that could survive anything. Well,
if you ever have a production company, it should be

(01:02:38):
wild blueberry just you know, you can have that one.
Oh you know, you know it's so crazy. What about
morel musha Do you know anything about those? Yea mushroom
time happen? What about magic? Yeah? Man, mushrooms man, psychedelic.
But I mean, but I mean, what about ayahuasca, Like
what about these sort of ancient practice natural psychedelic practices. Okay,

(01:03:04):
Like ayahuasca falls back into the recreational kind of thing.
It falls back into like how how fed up do
you want your head? And can you survive it and
get a spiritual outcome at the end of it? You
know what I mean. It's like it falls into the
category of you know, how do you tell a stoner
to say, were like, hey man, you're pushing the weed
too hard. You need to take a break. You know,

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you can't even judge that. The stoner knows best, who's
been doing it all these years and so forth knows
what the you know, capacity is, knows how much weed.
I guess looking at me, you know, why are you're
pointing at I'm the one who's done ayahwuaska here? You
gotta look at me. Spirit of compassion is coming so big? No, No,

(01:03:46):
but you're right, you're it's a personal it's a it's
a personal it's one of those things, a personal choice.
My brain went to celery juice. Honestly, more you do
I don't know not ayahuasca but with psilocybin with mushrooms. Yeah,
you know, first of all, I've read, you know, this
book that Michael Polland wrote, which is really a great book,
and it talks about sort of the history of psilocybin basically.

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Now there's been a new research and studies and research
that John Hopkins is doing on psilocybin that medical that
the medical community is actually performing and doing, and it
has funding. And it brought me back to the Celary
experience where they're not even really giving that as much
of a It's the most powerful medicine of our time

(01:04:33):
on planet Earth right now, is celery juice the most
powerful medicine? And long after I'm dead and gone, you guys,
you know I love it, dude, Like I really do.
You blieve me? That stuff will never die. The whole
planet will be doing it. It'll be in the billions
because it is the most powerful medicine. It's stood this,
It stood the test of time, of criticism, it stood

(01:04:57):
the test of time of everything, because it's the only
thing that works. Here's how it works, Here's how it works.
A trend because of it becomes a trend because money
is behind it. I don't care what it is. Just
throw it at me. What trend is out there? Right?
You can think of some, I can think of a
whole There's like food wiser, any trend, any trend because

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you're the nineties fashion trend, which is horrid. Money, there's
terrible everything. There's money behind it, right, That's what it is. Apple,
set of vinegars, money behind everything, every collagen, tons of
money in collagen, tons of money behind collagen. It becomes
a trend not because it works, becomes a trend because

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it's it's it's backed. The cellar juice profit. Cellar juice
is not backed. It's in everybody's way. It pisses everybody off.
It's not profitable. It gets everybody angry who's trying to
sell something. But yet it's taking over the world because
it's the only damn thing that's really worked, really worked.
You got to couple it with other things. I love it,
I really do. I don't know why, because I'm relatively healthy,

(01:06:00):
but I just feel clean. I don't know because people
said I did it for like six weeks and I'm
trying to get back on it, but you know, it's
like I'm waiting for the feeling, you know, it's like, Okay,
am I going to change? Is something going to change
inside of me? And I didn't feel like a because
I didn't have I didn't have any psoriasis or I
didn't have any sort of acne or anything like that.
But it was I just felt clean. I felt like

(01:06:22):
gutted in a weird way. I've had a thing that's
happened to me throughout this podcast where I've been feeling
little parts of my body the whole time, like somatic. Yeah,
Like I'll have like I'm like, oh that ringing in
the ear, Like am I having a ringing in the ear?
Like I had like oh my god, Well, well here's

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the thing. And if there was something wrong with any
of us, would you say it? That was one of
my questions. It's just so when you're dealing with hardcore
medical stuff, it's like, damn, there's this iron horse between
it all, you know, you know where it's like you
can't knock that iron horse down because there's these instilled
belief systems in people with medical aspects of it that man,

(01:07:06):
you can't you can't like break that down if you
wanted to. And I don't have the time to like
investigate with spirit of compassion, every mental thought someone's thinking,
you know, of like will they be able to handle it?
Will they not? And I mean I can, but I
don't have that on the fly. It's me because I
got to be like, Okay, we're we going next? What
do I gotta do? What's my assistant? You know, got

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me plenty, you know, but yeah, comes through all the time.
I mean when I was younger, It's like I told
you I would tap on shoulders and really peep people off.
Some people be so thankful and all of a sudden,
i'd have a client, you know or whatever when I
was younger. But yeah, so no, you're saying basically like
you don't you you only really do that when it's
something that you're focused on doing, Like if you you've

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never had that as an adult, like go to someone
and be like I need to tell this person, you know,
if I could, if I if I could go into
a restaurant or go into Whole Foods, which I can't
because I'll be mobbed. And yeah, but you know what
it is. The thing is because you know what's funny

(01:08:09):
is that's so funny, it's so true. The Whole Foods
is they'll just kill to guy. And what happens is that,
you know, it's like my assistants always laugh at me.
You know, they're like, first of all, because you go
half blind anyway, you end up like kind of bumping
into things after too many readings. And so what's funny
is they don't let me out the front door of
the house because if I go wandering down the road,

(01:08:31):
people are gonna see me. Beat the hornet. Happen one
time where I had to go outside in front of
the house and you know, or I'd be in front
of an office building because I wanted to go visit
somebody and there's lots of people are beaming and yelling
like salary or the horn to be like I was
putting out the garbage. I was putting out the garbage
and so much and said, I just saw you live

(01:08:52):
on instuff. And then it was just like it's always
like that. And the thing is is if I could
go into Whole Foods again, like I like, I could
tell her and I and I wasn't gonna get mobbed.
I then you know, yeah, the readings right, well, the
readings come through no matter what they could be coming through.
And then it might be that one person where I
might be like, you know what, you know, let let's

(01:09:13):
let's talk about this down the road, or let's talk
about this. Here's how you contact my sister or something.
You know. My sister in law just asked, do you
ever ask Spirit why you? Yeah? Absolutely? All the time.
Spirit told me there was something inside of me. It
was the right recipe. It could be a little bit
of crazy. Maybe it's just you're crazy enough, or maybe

(01:09:34):
it's that no, no, no no, But but the fact that
you can even say that is amazing. Yeah, you know it,
because that that just adds so much more validity incredibility
to everything that you do. You say, yeah, maybe it's
a little bit fucking crazy, I don't know, or maybe
you had you not the spirit of compassionate, you had
the perfect amount of crazy. You know. My friends are

(01:09:54):
always like, hey, listen, hey, listen, you know, can you
ask Spirit this? And I'm like, oh, it's this, and
they go no, can you ask Spirit if this is this?
And this? I go, no, it's this. It's not that
I don't trust you, Anthony, It's all I've known you forever.
But can you just ask Spirit? Okay, get spirit on
the line here you know what I mean, just because

(01:10:14):
you know so much and you've learned so much. I
love what you're saying. I need spirit. No spirit's happy
with okay, good. I need a spirit in my life
that I could just be like, I don't know, spirit, Kate, Kate,
just call me. You got the best sibling in the world. Guys,

(01:10:36):
call me. We'll do. Thank you so much, bro, Like
this was so much fun. We were looking forward to
this for a long time when you when we were
when we started this whole podcast idea, you were one
of the first who outside of the sort of the
celebrity sibling world. We're like, we have to get medical medium.
And at that point I didn't even know your name.
I just thought you were medical medium. I was like,

(01:10:56):
that's a strange name. But it turns out you have
a name Anthony, and I can't aunt now because we're
we're homies. Keep up the meaningful work. Many. Thank you
so much. Yeah, you're great, you know, yeah, thank you.
Thanks Love. Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson,
Olira Hudson, and sim Sarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnank.

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