August 1, 2024 • 31 mins
Sides define themselves as neither top nor bottom, preferring non-penetrative practices to buttstuff. In this episode, Gabe and Chris go deep with the “Messiah of Masturbation”, BATEBANDIT XL, about why he identifies as both a side and a bator, and why he created the BBXL Bate Bros, an international organization that holds online and in-person events for Black and Brown masturbation enthusiasts. Then our hosts learn all about what led BATEBANDIT XL to start making horny (and hot AF) hip-hop music chronicling his wild life as a bator. Plus, a special Side edition of “Pump or Dump?”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about
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If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Gabe, it's time for Cruising Confession. Now, I'm going to
ask you this age old question. Are you a top
or bottom?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I don't see how that's any of your business. No,
I'm kidding. It depends on the day, in my mood
and the partner.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, Yeah, I mean I think I lean maybe more
toward topping from you. Yeah, I got I'm a tums girly.
My stomach is like it's the ibs. Yeah, it's the
ibs for me. No, it's not even that bad. I
just like I have a harder time bottoming, I think,
and it's something I've learned through life, and I try
to keep an even keel. But yeah, sometimes I'm not
(00:57):
topping or bottoming. Sometimes I'll do something else entirely. Yeah,
how much?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Like, Oh that's a good question. I am like nine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Percent top okay, but I will say currently I'm in
my bottom era.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh my god, we found christ time. I'm so excited
for you. This is great, this is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's been fantastic, I will say, because I think it
was like you, I really struggled to find that balance
in like stemic issues, and I think I've got something
that works really well. So like I'm more confident in
my bottom. Meaning now I have another question for you. Oh, okay,
have you heard of sides? I have? Okay, I first
heard about it online.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
My understanding is that sides are people who prefer non
penetrative sex. Yeah, which is like it's my understanding as well. Right, Yeah,
it's like that's a mood everybody's in. Sometimes that's an
option on the UH on the catering menu, if you will,
at the buffet of gay sex. It's interesting to me too,
that side is sort of like developing as this identity.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I didn't understand the necessity for it at first.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I was like, you always have non penetrative sex, you
can always just be like I'm into oral, I'm into masturbating, whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Why do we have to like label it totally?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, So like I get it, but I think because
people are always asking the topper bottom question, it does
sort of necessitate this like alternative or this other like
category of how a person prefers to engage with their
sexual partners.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, so I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But I also feel like in every situation, in every
person I meet, I'm not always feeling topper bottom vibes
from them, Like I don't I want to be intimate
with you sexually, but I don't. Necessarily the penetration is
not the part that I'm really that interested in.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
No, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's like sometimes I don't I find someone really hot,
but I don't want to fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I just want to like get naked and roll
around exactly see where that goes, and like maybe later
we can get there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But like, I just want to be naked with you. Oh,
that's so sweet. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I've been waiting for you to ask for so long. Well,
in case you had guessed. In today's episodes, we are
talking about all things sides, and we're inviting the Messiah
of masturbation bait, Banded XCEL, who stops by to chat
about why he identifies as a side and what led
him to create the Order of the bb XL and
(03:11):
nationwide Network for Masturbators of Color. Welcome to Stiffy's Cruising Confessions.
I am Gabe Gone, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week, Week's More the sublime world
of queer sex, cruising and relationship will.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Be talking to queer folks of all kinds. Ask them questions,
swap sex stories, share intimate revelations.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A lot of us are discovering ourselves in cruising spaces.
This happened to me at this toilet stall, in the
library or the airport. I feel like everybody's gonna fuck
a little harder here.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took
pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued.
And the more I gave him, the more he could take.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
If you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have a
moral deficit.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Our guest this week is a legend in the making.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Bait Banded Xcel is a groundbreaking hip hop artist, content creator,
and its self proclaimed messiah of masturbation.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
He's also the CEO and founder of the Order of
the BBXL, Babros and International Network for Masturbators of Color,
which you can find at bbxlbabros dot com. His debut single,
beat that Dick Up has become an anthem in the
beater community. His album Chronicles of a Bat is in
the works now. You can find this adult content on
OnlyFans and just for fans at bait Bandit XL.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Welcome to cruising Defessions bait Banded XCEL. How you doing,
what's going on? You're feeling welcome. Do you remember getting
any messages about masturbation from your parents?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ooh, so my sex talk at the house was it
was corny as hell. Man at the time. I had
my stepfather. He told me and my brother at the
same time. Oh okay, and me and my brother, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we had that talk,
but it was it was just weird. It didn't give
me much information. Okay. I think he wanted it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, Yeah, I was like, damn, at least you got one.
We didn't get one at all.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I didn't get one at all.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
My mom ordered a book and my brother and I
opened this back and it was like a book about
what's happening to my body in sex?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And like that was the talk that's wild. Yeah, at
least you've got literature that I grew up in Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Man, Like sex education in Florida was like, these are
condoms you will die if you don't use. We're done right,
Like it was wild. I do remember the growing up.
I experimented with masturbation, like once I hit puberty, and
I would obviously masturbate in the mornings, like I would
masturbate and then shower, and my parents realized that I was
spending too long, so they would just.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Turn off the hot water on me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was so rude. I was like this anti.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Masturbation campaign to stop.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm like it was wild.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
How about you?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Did you ever experience anything like that where you kind
of had to like hide at first while like your
body and stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I definitely had to hide some things. I remember when
I first got caught and I lot my ass off
about what it was too. I did the shower thing,
and I also would take long because you know, after
you shoot your night everywhere, you know you gotta wash.
So so once I figured like you know what I'm
gonna I'm gonna start doing this in the bed. I
(06:01):
wouldn't go to bathroom the morning, I had a rag
I would just use, and I used it and used it. Okay,
So one day I came home and my mother was
in my mother fucking room cleaning it and she was
underneath the bed, and as soon as I walked in,
she was like, what's this? And so I told her
(06:22):
I was being lazy and I didn't want to get
up to get t ship about blowing my nose on it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You're blowing something, yeah, so big Bendy. We've talked a
little bit about sort of, you know, growing up and
learning about your body and masturbation, but I'm curious, at
what point did you start to think about your sexuality
and other people and sexual experiences with other folks.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I knew that at a younger age, like I was
attracted to both men and women, but I definitely at
that time didn't know like what gay and bisexual any
of that shit was, you know what I'm saying. I
just knew that I like both, you know, and I
don't even know that there would you know what people's
opinions about that will be? And at what point into
your life did you encounter the term side? So that's
(07:09):
new for me. You know what I'm saying because I
just knew that there were people who consider themselves either
solo sexual or they just only you know, did mutual
masturbation and or sex. You know, that was it. That's
not really a name or nothing like that for it.
So it's new to me. I guess that just has
to be a name for you know everything. Yeah, what
(07:29):
is it being aside mean to you? I think for me,
being a side is specifically being into everything except for penetration.
You know, as tops they love to penetrate, bottoms love
to be penetrated, verse they love it both ways. Sides
they just simply want to engage in everything else except
(07:49):
for penetration. I think it's really simple, but unfortunately people
do make it complicated for no reason.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Truly, And just like you can be a top one
day bottom another, like maybe you're your side for the week.
I did also want to try to unpack a lot
of the conversation that's happening online surrounding sides. What are
some of the judgments that you see, not just when
it comes to size, but like Baiter's queer folks engaging
in non penetrative sex and naming it.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, man, we get the whole childish thing a lot,
you know, what the hell is aside people, I think
that everybody knows what that is. But people have just
taken this you know, fake outrage way too far and
try to, you know, draft up these tweets online to
bash the Bay community. Like I said, I just I
don't get it, you know, I think that, Well, what
(08:40):
I can say is, I'll tell you a short story.
One time I had a Bay party that was like
a pregame to a sex party linked up with you know,
a friend from the community who was hosting the sex
party that started like midnight. So I was like, Yo'll
let me host a bag party at the spot from
like ten to midnight. So we got to midnight, the
second party started, but the betas was still there and
(09:03):
the whole circle. So a couple of bottoms came in
and saw like all the betas like standing in circles,
and they just was you know, circling the room trying
to sendify signals saying something, and and the betas was
just doing the damn thing, and two of them got
pissed off and left, you know. So what I think
it is is some people just can't fathom because of
(09:24):
the limit of their own sexual experiences, that two people
can only want mutual masturbation from each other, you know,
And it's about the experiences and the and the the
way they feel that make them desire something like that.
So you would never understand, you know, you got to
be open to it. So fuck all that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Man like you mentioned, we've always had terminology to describe
acts besides topping or bottoming, right, mutual masturbation, oral, It's
like there's many, Yeah, So it's like, I think we've
always known that there are options outside of this, But yeah,
I think the itself is sort of news, sort of
identifying a community or a group of people. And I think,
(10:04):
you know, just to I'm curious about your understanding because
my take on what I've heard and read is that
it seems like not all sides are against anals. Some
might be more into oral or mutual masturbation than anal,
Some might have penetrative sex occasionally. So it seems like
kind of a fluid word. Do you have the same
kind of understanding or viewpoint on it?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It is fluid, Honestly. You can go from talking about
people who identify as sides versus those who identify as
a beta, you know, those who like the act of
masturbation with a solo, mutual, large group. Because you don't
have to be a side to enjoy being a beta.
You can also be a top, bottom, whatever, So I'll
(10:46):
believe that. So it's like man sexuality in itself is
just a spectrum. But I guess we just have to
have these certain labels so another person can know what
you are into and what you're not into.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, so let's actually talk a little bit about the
baiting community. I think for a lot of people out there,
maybe the pandemic was the first time they might have
heard this term or kind of seen like a baiting
zoom room, right. I think a lot of the sort
of safety precautions we had to take meant that masturbation,
either like in front of somebody or being shared digitally
(11:18):
was sort of like one of the few ways we
could be intimate with people.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We were living with at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So I'm curious, did you also discover the baiting community
around this time or was this something that you've been
involved with or saw earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I didn't see large zoom baits until the pandemic. Now,
prior to that, I remember chat wounds on Yahoo Messenger.
I remember ouvuvu. Yes, I had OVU when I first
got my first apartment alone. You know, as a beta,
getting your first apartment alone. It's over, bro, every room, listen,
(11:56):
every surface, every if I can get up there, I'm
up there. I'm doing it. Okay. So I discovered uvo
around that time, so I was having like one on one,
but like to the point where they were like fifty
plus guys in a zoom like. That didn't start happening
for me until the pandemics.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Talk to me about your community, your online community which
is now international.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, BBXLVA bros. It came out of the pandemic and
came out of I actually listen. I was not the
first person, of course, to ever host zoom baits, but
I developed the pattern. I was consistent with putting them
out there. I think I had like a schedule I
used to do like Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays during the pandemic,
(12:40):
and then it just grew and grew and grew. So
it got exhausting because you know, we would be on
their baiting and then somebody would have the link and
get on there and do something stupid or whatever you know,
start screaming, playing loud music, doing whatever you know. So
we had to become more secretive about the process. So
emailing everybody became so much I created a digital group
(13:01):
and then it progressed until becoming an organization. Bbxl BA Bros. Yeah, yeah,
that's amazing. Everyone's there people who identify as all sexual positions,
but they know that they would love to have a
space that they can celebrate being the beta.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
When did you shift from the online sort of zoombait
sessions into in person events.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
When bbxl BA Bros. Began to get bigger wet, there
was a point we wanted to stop and cap at
two hundred members, and then even that wasn't enough because
of demand was still coming in twenty twenty one. So
everyone would always in the group chat talk about how
they really wish like the pandemic would harry up and
(13:42):
be over so we can all try to meet each other.
Because inside this group we have been going for at
least a year now, people have built friendships, people have
built bonds, and so once the pandemics start clearing up
just enough for people to come outside and start going
to public places again, we jumped right on and start
having parties. Some of our parties were in hotels first,
(14:02):
and then we moved on to like getting airbnbs and
and different venues like that. So that's amazing. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think we all know the spaces for black and
brown people are very important, but I'm wondering why you
felt that it was specifically important to create a bait
space that was focused on your community.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Especially in my experience, there are more black and brown
men who have not been able to open up their
sexuality in certain ways due to many reasons, most of
all family, you know, religion, things like that. So to
create a space, you know, bb Excel Bate Bros. For
(14:41):
those people, you know, those men to come in and
just you know, so to speak, like their hair down
and just be themselves in their bait energy like that
was that was very important to me.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Have you like received messages from people who have been like,
thank you so much for creating the space really needed.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
How has that impacted you and how does that felt
To get those messages? They mean a lot and it
lets me know that all the work I put in
to really make bb ex La Bros. What it is
Today's worth it. Man, I lost the like a lot
of nights asleep, you know, putting things together, as I said,
you know, designing all you know, all the flyers. I
(15:17):
designed our website from scratch, you know, which is really nice.
Thank you so much. Appreciate that. You know, do you
watch mostly baiting porn? No, There's a wide variety of
things that get my dick card. Okay, listen, I have
a lot of things that you know that that I
love to see. I'd love to see the bookmarks. What
(15:40):
are some of the key all right, all right, all right,
so I watched I like, first of all, exhibitionist, you know,
public porn. All right, I love to see. I love
to watch some hardcore fuckings. Sometimes I do watch women
as well sometimes, but I only watch like videos where
(16:01):
they make themselves squirt. You know, that's kind of interesting squirting. Yeah. Oh,
I watch videos of guys, you know, doing oral sex
and women until they squirt in their face. That turns
me on. I'd love to see, you know, the bottoms
with the dildos and the fucking machines like that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Fuck machines are a whole other level to set up
involved in having to execute that alone.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The investment truly.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes, And also do you get a custom made does
somebody make it for it? It's wild, but fuck machines
are Yeah, that's a next level expert pro move.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's a wide variety of things that turn me on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm curious how much of your day would you say
it involves baiting? How much time do you usually spend
on it? You know, just creating content or for self pleasure?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh that's well, I'm gonna edge your mostly, you know,
and that is something I've grown into and it works
better for me, especially with creating content every week or
you know, just trying to make sure I got a
good nutshot for those who subscribe. You know, people pay
their money. They want to see, you know, you got
to give them what they want to see. But I
do have boundaries about that as well. But you know,
(17:08):
working from home, for me, I can bait whenever, you
know what I'm saying, whenever I'm feeling it. I just
gauge my day. Sometimes I take thirty minutes and take
a smoke break and stroke, you know, then I'll you know,
get back to my work, you know whatever for another hour.
So take another break, do it again. So if I
ain't got nothing to do. Sometimes, you know, I wake
up with the expectation like let me set my my
(17:31):
you know, morning up, so I can go ahead and
get a good bait in, you know for the first
half of day, especially like on a Saturday. That's all
we call it, Saturday bait community, you know, a good
day to just get comfortable and beat your day.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of the contents I watch on Twitter is etching,
and I'm really fascinated by it, and I try myself
to do it, but like I just can never sustain.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So you got to practice, you gotta know, Like how
I got there is learning what my pressure points were,
where they wear all my dick, what made me more sensitive.
And I tried to, like just through practice come up
with a combination of like moves that I could do
that are pleasurable but don't exactly take me, you know.
(18:13):
And then I started testing myself like, oh my edge
right until I feel it. And then sometimes I will
go almost a little too far and just like you know,
not just a little bit, but exactly the whole thing.
You know, That's just how you get better at it,
honestly for me, So I just have to practice more.
Just practice more, you gotta. But you gotta be patient,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta put the
time in. You can't like you know, you can't rush it,
(18:37):
bro y'all gotta take some time. I've done it. I've
edged through a whole football game before. My god, absolutely,
how long are those? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's literally.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh man, I like reacting And I was like, wait,
I don't know. It depends on the game, if they're
going to ot, if they call a lot of timeouts.
So what are we talking? Bassline? Alright, so baseline, like
for me, my personal baseline. I mean sometimes I go
between on average thirty to forty five minutes of edging,
(19:17):
you know, and like that's just one edging session in
the day for me. I like the edge because I
like to feel horny o day sometimes, you know what
I'm saying, especially like if I wear my rain out
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So yeah, all right, when we come back, we'll be
talking to bait Banded XL about being the world's first
ever beta rapper.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Stay tuned, welcome back. We are here with bab Bandit XL.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Now, bag Bandit, I want to talk about masturbation music,
which is a genre I have recently been introduced to
thanks to you.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There have been famous songs about masturbation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Prince has dracked you off, and of course the vinyl
has I touched myself.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think you are the first artist to completely.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Devote your musical output to masturbation, which has to be
some kind of achievement. I can't imagine anyone in the
history has done it before. So I'm wondering where did
you get the idea to start creating music about masturbation.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm gonna be honest, like, I've always loved music. I've
done music in my normal life before, so this was
like something I don't want to say a joke. It
was just something I was doing for fun. I was
feeling good, of course, you know, and I was just
playing on this app that I discovered during the pandemic,
so I, you know, I just wanted to see how
it would sound if I made some little joky song
(20:27):
about beating your dick. And I, you know, first I
just put it out to my bros in our group,
you know, and then they was like going crazy over yo.
So I never expected that response. Man, I never expected that.
And then I was like well, let me put this
on Twitter and see what happens. And then came a
beat that dick Up challenge where people would like videos
(20:50):
and then you know, stroking and nothing to the song
with the song on the background, nominate another bro, and
then you know they the next bro do the video.
You know, So it became a whole thing. And so
I never expected that. Never expected that a lot of
people have used it and you know, like college videos
(21:12):
on porn Hub and stuff like that too. I never
expected to be this big and that it was on
Apple Music, Title, Amazon, all all that stuff. SoundCloud is everywhere.
You got it untitled. That's that's what.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It was like.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I love that releases. Yeah, and then we saw a
video of You're performing at live at a venue I
think it was Lambda Club here in New York, which
is amazing, Like it's like a high energy song, but
it's so funny because there's also like a trio of
people making out in the background.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So let me tell you that was an interesting show. Bro,
like that show because that was at this Lambda Lounge.
Shout out to Lambda, the owners of Lambda and Lando overall.
They have landa lounge and Lambda the club in Brooklyn.
So this was at Brooklyn and so anyway, that that
night they had an event called meat Fest. So I
was the opening.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, who else could open?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Let me tell you something. They talk about demon Tom
on the internet right there, and there was this couple
that came in and then this third guy. So I
don't know if they were like a trouble. I don't
know what they were, but the whole show, they was
like vibing to the music, but they were making out
the entire show, filling up on each other. When I
(22:29):
got to beat the dicker, they start grabbing each other's dicks.
I was just like, Yo, this is a vibe.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wish everybody could be like this at every show.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I was like, that's your target audience. It's like, regardless
of who's listening, they're getting hard out of that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It was like you didn't even have to be yes.
And who makes your beats? Do you make them? I
do not make my beats. My gut, I don't make them.
I definitely work with a wide variety of engineers and
producers who you know, pull music together and outsaid that,
and so what happens when you're like, can you make
(23:03):
me a be and then you come in and drop
the verse, Like what is their reaction? Like it was
a crazy experience because you know, they didn't know they
was getting when I came in and I got in
the booth and I just said, all right, I'm just
gonna close the door. And there was a wheel window
right here too that sai, I'm not even gonna look
over there. I'm just gonna start rapping. Just keep going. Yeah,
we did the take. We did like the first big
(23:25):
chunk and it was dead ass silent in the room
for like a little minute, and he was like, all right,
so where you want to start from? It was, you know,
after a while, it was like, you know what, he came.
He came to me. He was like, you know what,
you got an interesting, you know thing going on, but
(23:47):
your music hits. It sounds fire Like I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, when it's an album coming out, definitely go and
drop this year. I just want to make sure it's perfect.
Chronicles of a Beta is really I really want that
to be a beta diary for me to really give
people who don't understand, you know, what being a beata is,
or at least just understand my life to give them
a you know, a deeper size. Most of the songs
are telling the story about a bit experience that I've had,
(24:13):
or a bait experience that I fantasized about. So and
I write all my ship, write everything, so you know
it's coming straight from my experience as my heart.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So we were talking about it a lot, but I
think it's time we take a listen to your biggest hip.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Beat that dick up.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, that's all right here for all my baby bros.
You already know what time it is. Go ahead and
lock that door, put your headstone, turn that all your mother,
Get comfortable and beat that dick.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Beat that dip, sit back, relax on the wandrn out.
Get lost in time.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That beat that dick.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Beat that beat that mother fuck.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Sit back, relax on the wind, your mind the fu out,
get lost the time.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I'm my boss, I'm my bait. I ain't got time
to be I hate that if I ain't beating my best.
Believe I'm getting paper busting that one busting later, losing
count got later in my room, get my b b
X up. Bata is going up and down my tongue
all night long, beating down the Bush called me King
Kong that you know my dig the words of the
song he said, don't punish man, but don't never do me.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Wronge be that could beat that dick up. That could
beat that dick up, that could beat that mother beat
that dick up.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Sit back and relax, waand your mind come the fuck
out get lost.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I love it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it sure
over the head gets me every time.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like you know that looks like you know what I'm saying,
So you know, say that for later, Yeah, say that
for lady. You know what I'm saying, get your get
your night jumping off right, you wish you the happiest edging.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Thank you to try.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I came with you and like you know how it's
going because like yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Shoot me a dm be like all right, you know,
but you know we can talk. We can talk about that.
I gotta like get better, just like take your hands off. Yeah. Also,
loosen up your grip sometimes, loosen up your grip sometimes. Well,
I mean, if you want to last.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know, you know what I'm saying, And I think
I have to go with it with the mindset that
like you're not doing this to come that part, all right,
I want to thank Bag Band Excel so much for
stopping by.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
This has been a blast, This is so much fun.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Thank you. Where can we find you online? So yeah,
find me on Twitter, find me on Instagram, Bake band
Excel Official dot com that's where you can find me.
If you interested in being a member of b Excel
Bake Bros. Hit us up on Twitter, BBXL Bake Bros.
Or bb Excel Bagbros dot com. So yeah, thank you again,
(26:56):
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
When we come back, we're going to be playing our
special side edition of our favorite game, Pump or Dump.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I can't wait and be right back.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know, all right, welcome back. It is time to
play our favorite game here at Cruising Confessions, Pump or Dump.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Remember, pump means we love it, we're all about it,
and dump means the exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We do not want to see it again. Let's get
it out of here.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Absolutely, we are starting with peas and carrots.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Dump. I'd say dump too, Yeah, I mean you can't
make chicken pop pie without peas and carrots.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, but like that's all together in the one thing.
Carrots is on a side. Yeah, it just gives like
Midwest frozen vegetables.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's giving Midwest frozen vegetables.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I understood that perfectly, and it conveyed what you needed
it too.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh man, Next up on our lists Nancy Reagan. Oh,
the throat out herself. Yeah, she walks so competitors could run. Truly,
I hate any Reagan. It's a dump.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Sorry, No, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Uh, you're gonna hate me. I'm gonna say, pump, You're
gonna pump.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
The woman who married one of the worst people to
handle the HIV eights crisis as president.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
She had me a throat. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
She was at the White House when they actively denied
the existence of h No, no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
But like if we're thinking about it, just from the context.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We're just thinking about her work, not your husband. Yeah,
just like throat goat, and like that's a pump to me,
being a throat oat is a pump. Being Nancy Reagan
is a dump. Okay, all right, can we separate the
artists from I'm done. I'm done here, I'm fine. Let's
(28:52):
go into the next one. We can have a difference
of opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's okay, but yours is problematic and you will get
dragged for it online.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So that's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm saying, as a throw go, I have to support
another throw go.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know what, you know what, Chris Blerding a lot
about you.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I like the community.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, I help you and the corpse of Nancy Reagan
have a wonderful time building community together.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Next up we have Robin Robin as an Batman sidekick
another side There have been several iterations of Robin which
everyone turns into Nightwing and has the juicy booty.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That's the one I like.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Also Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin with the nipples on
the outside. Life changing gay experience. Really, that was my awakenings,
all right. Next up is toothy blow Jobs. The concept
of a toothy blow job. I think we can do
this together, dumb This was quite the episode, that was
and I learned a lot too about like sort of
how folks think of self pleasure and the expansive possibilities
(29:54):
when you look at the baiting community or masturbation or
any form of solo play. It's really obviously like one
of the first sexual experiences I had was with myself. Yeah,
but I don't really think about you know, the time
that I put into self pleasure. So you know, I
think one of the best pieces of advice we got
today from bait bandit was be patient.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, and loosen your grip yes.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And I do want to say that I'm really glad
that we got to do this episode on sides and
baiting as well. There are so many possibilities for sharing
what your preferences and identity are on stuffies as well.
So like obviously y'all are very welcome to come base.
I mean, you can organize a group bait session.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You can identify as a side, and now with all
the new filters, you can filter out if you're looking
for just other sides to hang out with, which is
also amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was on the last night actually looking for a
circle jerk.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I love you. I was out trying the new endowment
filters just to see what the average size in my
neighborhood is, you.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Know what I mean, just to see what's neighbor We
want to thank our guests today, bait band x L.
Look for his album Confessions of Abater coming later this year,
and follow him at bait band XL on all socials
OnlyFans and just for fans and if you're a black
and Brown masservator, definitely check out bbxlbaitbros dot com. Thanks
(31:17):
for watching, See you next week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
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Speaker 4 (31:43):
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Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Gabe, it's time for Cruising Confession. Now, I'm going to
ask you this age old question. Are you a top
or bottom?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I don't see how that's any of your business. No,
I'm kidding. It depends on the day, in my mood
and the partner.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, Yeah, I mean I think I lean maybe more
toward topping from you. Yeah, I got I'm a tums girly.
My stomach is like it's the ibs. Yeah, it's the
ibs for me. No, it's not even that bad. I
just like I have a harder time bottoming, I think,
and it's something I've learned through life, and I try
to keep an even keel. But yeah, sometimes I'm not
(00:57):
topping or bottoming. Sometimes I'll do something else entirely. Yeah,
how much?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Like, Oh that's a good question. I am like nine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Percent top okay, but I will say currently I'm in
my bottom era.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh my god, we found christ time. I'm so excited
for you. This is great, this is spectacular.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's been fantastic, I will say, because I think it
was like you, I really struggled to find that balance
in like stemic issues, and I think I've got something
that works really well. So like I'm more confident in
my bottom. Meaning now I have another question for you. Oh, okay,
have you heard of sides? I have? Okay, I first
heard about it online.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
My understanding is that sides are people who prefer non
penetrative sex. Yeah, which is like it's my understanding as well. Right, Yeah,
it's like that's a mood everybody's in. Sometimes that's an
option on the UH on the catering menu, if you will,
at the buffet of gay sex. It's interesting to me too,
that side is sort of like developing as this identity.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I didn't understand the necessity for it at first.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I was like, you always have non penetrative sex, you
can always just be like I'm into oral, I'm into masturbating, whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Why do we have to like label it totally?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, So like I get it, but I think because
people are always asking the topper bottom question, it does
sort of necessitate this like alternative or this other like
category of how a person prefers to engage with their
sexual partners.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, so I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But I also feel like in every situation, in every
person I meet, I'm not always feeling topper bottom vibes
from them, Like I don't I want to be intimate
with you sexually, but I don't. Necessarily the penetration is
not the part that I'm really that interested in.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
No, I do know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's like sometimes I don't I find someone really hot,
but I don't want to fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I just want to like get naked and roll
around exactly see where that goes, and like maybe later
we can get there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But like, I just want to be naked with you. Oh,
that's so sweet. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I've been waiting for you to ask for so long. Well,
in case you had guessed. In today's episodes, we are
talking about all things sides, and we're inviting the Messiah
of masturbation bait, Banded XCEL, who stops by to chat
about why he identifies as a side and what led
him to create the Order of the bb XL and
(03:11):
nationwide Network for Masturbators of Color. Welcome to Stiffy's Cruising Confessions.
I am Gabe Gone, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week, Week's More the sublime world
of queer sex, cruising and relationship will.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Be talking to queer folks of all kinds. Ask them questions,
swap sex stories, share intimate revelations.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
A lot of us are discovering ourselves in cruising spaces.
This happened to me at this toilet stall, in the
library or the airport. I feel like everybody's gonna fuck
a little harder here.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took
pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued.
And the more I gave him, the more he could take.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
If you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have a
moral deficit.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Our guest this week is a legend in the making.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Bait Banded Xcel is a groundbreaking hip hop artist, content creator,
and its self proclaimed messiah of masturbation.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
He's also the CEO and founder of the Order of
the BBXL, Babros and International Network for Masturbators of Color,
which you can find at bbxlbabros dot com. His debut single,
beat that Dick Up has become an anthem in the
beater community. His album Chronicles of a Bat is in
the works now. You can find this adult content on
OnlyFans and just for fans at bait Bandit XL.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Welcome to cruising Defessions bait Banded XCEL. How you doing,
what's going on? You're feeling welcome. Do you remember getting
any messages about masturbation from your parents?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Ooh, so my sex talk at the house was it
was corny as hell. Man at the time. I had
my stepfather. He told me and my brother at the
same time. Oh okay, and me and my brother, you
know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we had that talk,
but it was it was just weird. It didn't give
me much information. Okay. I think he wanted it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Okay, Yeah, I was like, damn, at least you got one.
We didn't get one at all.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I didn't get one at all.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
My mom ordered a book and my brother and I
opened this back and it was like a book about
what's happening to my body in sex?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And like that was the talk that's wild. Yeah, at
least you've got literature that I grew up in Florida.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Man, Like sex education in Florida was like, these are
condoms you will die if you don't use. We're done right,
Like it was wild. I do remember the growing up.
I experimented with masturbation, like once I hit puberty, and
I would obviously masturbate in the mornings, like I would
masturbate and then shower, and my parents realized that I was
spending too long, so they would just.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Turn off the hot water on me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was so rude. I was like this anti.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Masturbation campaign to stop.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm like it was wild.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
How about you?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Did you ever experience anything like that where you kind
of had to like hide at first while like your
body and stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I definitely had to hide some things. I remember when
I first got caught and I lot my ass off
about what it was too. I did the shower thing,
and I also would take long because you know, after
you shoot your night everywhere, you know you gotta wash.
So so once I figured like you know what I'm
gonna I'm gonna start doing this in the bed. I
(06:01):
wouldn't go to bathroom the morning, I had a rag
I would just use, and I used it and used it. Okay,
So one day I came home and my mother was
in my mother fucking room cleaning it and she was
underneath the bed, and as soon as I walked in,
she was like, what's this? And so I told her
(06:22):
I was being lazy and I didn't want to get
up to get t ship about blowing my nose on it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You're blowing something, yeah, so big Bendy. We've talked a
little bit about sort of, you know, growing up and
learning about your body and masturbation, but I'm curious, at
what point did you start to think about your sexuality
and other people and sexual experiences with other folks.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I knew that at a younger age, like I was
attracted to both men and women, but I definitely at
that time didn't know like what gay and bisexual any
of that shit was, you know what I'm saying. I
just knew that I like both, you know, and I
don't even know that there would you know what people's
opinions about that will be? And at what point into
your life did you encounter the term side? So that's
(07:09):
new for me. You know what I'm saying because I
just knew that there were people who consider themselves either
solo sexual or they just only you know, did mutual
masturbation and or sex. You know, that was it. That's
not really a name or nothing like that for it.
So it's new to me. I guess that just has
to be a name for you know everything. Yeah, what
(07:29):
is it being aside mean to you? I think for me,
being a side is specifically being into everything except for penetration.
You know, as tops they love to penetrate, bottoms love
to be penetrated, verse they love it both ways. Sides
they just simply want to engage in everything else except
(07:49):
for penetration. I think it's really simple, but unfortunately people
do make it complicated for no reason.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Truly, And just like you can be a top one
day bottom another, like maybe you're your side for the week.
I did also want to try to unpack a lot
of the conversation that's happening online surrounding sides. What are
some of the judgments that you see, not just when
it comes to size, but like Baiter's queer folks engaging
in non penetrative sex and naming it.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, man, we get the whole childish thing a lot,
you know, what the hell is aside people, I think
that everybody knows what that is. But people have just
taken this you know, fake outrage way too far and
try to, you know, draft up these tweets online to
bash the Bay community. Like I said, I just I
don't get it, you know, I think that, Well, what
(08:40):
I can say is, I'll tell you a short story.
One time I had a Bay party that was like
a pregame to a sex party linked up with you know,
a friend from the community who was hosting the sex
party that started like midnight. So I was like, Yo'll
let me host a bag party at the spot from
like ten to midnight. So we got to midnight, the
second party started, but the betas was still there and
(09:03):
the whole circle. So a couple of bottoms came in
and saw like all the betas like standing in circles,
and they just was you know, circling the room trying
to sendify signals saying something, and and the betas was
just doing the damn thing, and two of them got
pissed off and left, you know. So what I think
it is is some people just can't fathom because of
(09:24):
the limit of their own sexual experiences, that two people
can only want mutual masturbation from each other, you know,
And it's about the experiences and the and the the
way they feel that make them desire something like that.
So you would never understand, you know, you got to
be open to it. So fuck all that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Man like you mentioned, we've always had terminology to describe
acts besides topping or bottoming, right, mutual masturbation, oral, It's
like there's many, Yeah, So it's like, I think we've
always known that there are options outside of this, But yeah,
I think the itself is sort of news, sort of
identifying a community or a group of people. And I think,
(10:04):
you know, just to I'm curious about your understanding because
my take on what I've heard and read is that
it seems like not all sides are against anals. Some
might be more into oral or mutual masturbation than anal,
Some might have penetrative sex occasionally. So it seems like
kind of a fluid word. Do you have the same
kind of understanding or viewpoint on it?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It is fluid, Honestly. You can go from talking about
people who identify as sides versus those who identify as
a beta, you know, those who like the act of
masturbation with a solo, mutual, large group. Because you don't
have to be a side to enjoy being a beta.
You can also be a top, bottom, whatever, So I'll
(10:46):
believe that. So it's like man sexuality in itself is
just a spectrum. But I guess we just have to
have these certain labels so another person can know what
you are into and what you're not into.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, so let's actually talk a little bit about the
baiting community. I think for a lot of people out there,
maybe the pandemic was the first time they might have
heard this term or kind of seen like a baiting
zoom room, right. I think a lot of the sort
of safety precautions we had to take meant that masturbation,
either like in front of somebody or being shared digitally
(11:18):
was sort of like one of the few ways we
could be intimate with people.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
We were living with at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So I'm curious, did you also discover the baiting community
around this time or was this something that you've been
involved with or saw earlier.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I didn't see large zoom baits until the pandemic. Now,
prior to that, I remember chat wounds on Yahoo Messenger.
I remember ouvuvu. Yes, I had OVU when I first
got my first apartment alone. You know, as a beta,
getting your first apartment alone. It's over, bro, every room, listen,
(11:56):
every surface, every if I can get up there, I'm
up there. I'm doing it. Okay. So I discovered uvo
around that time, so I was having like one on one,
but like to the point where they were like fifty
plus guys in a zoom like. That didn't start happening
for me until the pandemics.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Talk to me about your community, your online community which
is now international.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, BBXLVA bros. It came out of the pandemic and
came out of I actually listen. I was not the
first person, of course, to ever host zoom baits, but
I developed the pattern. I was consistent with putting them
out there. I think I had like a schedule I
used to do like Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays during the pandemic,
(12:40):
and then it just grew and grew and grew. So
it got exhausting because you know, we would be on
their baiting and then somebody would have the link and
get on there and do something stupid or whatever you know,
start screaming, playing loud music, doing whatever you know. So
we had to become more secretive about the process. So
emailing everybody became so much I created a digital group
(13:01):
and then it progressed until becoming an organization. Bbxl BA Bros. Yeah, yeah,
that's amazing. Everyone's there people who identify as all sexual positions,
but they know that they would love to have a
space that they can celebrate being the beta.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
When did you shift from the online sort of zoombait
sessions into in person events.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
When bbxl BA Bros. Began to get bigger wet, there
was a point we wanted to stop and cap at
two hundred members, and then even that wasn't enough because
of demand was still coming in twenty twenty one. So
everyone would always in the group chat talk about how
they really wish like the pandemic would harry up and
(13:42):
be over so we can all try to meet each other.
Because inside this group we have been going for at
least a year now, people have built friendships, people have
built bonds, and so once the pandemics start clearing up
just enough for people to come outside and start going
to public places again, we jumped right on and start
having parties. Some of our parties were in hotels first,
(14:02):
and then we moved on to like getting airbnbs and
and different venues like that. So that's amazing. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think we all know the spaces for black and
brown people are very important, but I'm wondering why you
felt that it was specifically important to create a bait
space that was focused on your community.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Especially in my experience, there are more black and brown
men who have not been able to open up their
sexuality in certain ways due to many reasons, most of
all family, you know, religion, things like that. So to
create a space, you know, bb Excel Bate Bros. For
(14:41):
those people, you know, those men to come in and
just you know, so to speak, like their hair down
and just be themselves in their bait energy like that
was that was very important to me.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Have you like received messages from people who have been like,
thank you so much for creating the space really needed.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
How has that impacted you and how does that felt
To get those messages? They mean a lot and it
lets me know that all the work I put in
to really make bb ex La Bros. What it is
Today's worth it. Man, I lost the like a lot
of nights asleep, you know, putting things together, as I said,
you know, designing all you know, all the flyers. I
(15:17):
designed our website from scratch, you know, which is really nice.
Thank you so much. Appreciate that. You know, do you
watch mostly baiting porn? No, There's a wide variety of
things that get my dick card. Okay, listen, I have
a lot of things that you know that that I
love to see. I'd love to see the bookmarks. What
(15:40):
are some of the key all right, all right, all right,
so I watched I like, first of all, exhibitionist, you know,
public porn. All right, I love to see. I love
to watch some hardcore fuckings. Sometimes I do watch women
as well sometimes, but I only watch like videos where
(16:01):
they make themselves squirt. You know, that's kind of interesting squirting. Yeah. Oh,
I watch videos of guys, you know, doing oral sex
and women until they squirt in their face. That turns
me on. I'd love to see, you know, the bottoms
with the dildos and the fucking machines like that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Fuck machines are a whole other level to set up
involved in having to execute that alone.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The investment truly.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes, And also do you get a custom made does
somebody make it for it? It's wild, but fuck machines
are Yeah, that's a next level expert pro move.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's a wide variety of things that turn me on.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm curious how much of your day would you say
it involves baiting? How much time do you usually spend
on it? You know, just creating content or for self pleasure?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh that's well, I'm gonna edge your mostly, you know,
and that is something I've grown into and it works
better for me, especially with creating content every week or
you know, just trying to make sure I got a
good nutshot for those who subscribe. You know, people pay
their money. They want to see, you know, you got
to give them what they want to see. But I
do have boundaries about that as well. But you know,
(17:08):
working from home, for me, I can bait whenever, you
know what I'm saying, whenever I'm feeling it. I just
gauge my day. Sometimes I take thirty minutes and take
a smoke break and stroke, you know, then I'll you know,
get back to my work, you know whatever for another hour.
So take another break, do it again. So if I
ain't got nothing to do. Sometimes, you know, I wake
up with the expectation like let me set my my
(17:31):
you know, morning up, so I can go ahead and
get a good bait in, you know for the first
half of day, especially like on a Saturday. That's all
we call it, Saturday bait community, you know, a good
day to just get comfortable and beat your day.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
A lot of the contents I watch on Twitter is etching,
and I'm really fascinated by it, and I try myself
to do it, but like I just can never sustain.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
So you got to practice, you gotta know, Like how
I got there is learning what my pressure points were,
where they wear all my dick, what made me more sensitive.
And I tried to, like just through practice come up
with a combination of like moves that I could do
that are pleasurable but don't exactly take me, you know.
(18:13):
And then I started testing myself like, oh my edge
right until I feel it. And then sometimes I will
go almost a little too far and just like you know,
not just a little bit, but exactly the whole thing.
You know, That's just how you get better at it,
honestly for me, So I just have to practice more.
Just practice more, you gotta. But you gotta be patient,
you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta put the
time in. You can't like you know, you can't rush it,
(18:37):
bro y'all gotta take some time. I've done it. I've
edged through a whole football game before. My god, absolutely,
how long are those? Sorry?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
That's literally.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh man, I like reacting And I was like, wait,
I don't know. It depends on the game, if they're
going to ot, if they call a lot of timeouts.
So what are we talking? Bassline? Alright, so baseline, like
for me, my personal baseline. I mean sometimes I go
between on average thirty to forty five minutes of edging,
(19:17):
you know, and like that's just one edging session in
the day for me. I like the edge because I
like to feel horny o day sometimes, you know what
I'm saying, especially like if I wear my rain out
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So yeah, all right, when we come back, we'll be
talking to bait Banded XL about being the world's first
ever beta rapper.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Stay tuned, welcome back. We are here with bab Bandit XL.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Now, bag Bandit, I want to talk about masturbation music,
which is a genre I have recently been introduced to
thanks to you.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
There have been famous songs about masturbation.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Prince has dracked you off, and of course the vinyl
has I touched myself.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think you are the first artist to completely.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Devote your musical output to masturbation, which has to be
some kind of achievement. I can't imagine anyone in the
history has done it before. So I'm wondering where did
you get the idea to start creating music about masturbation.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'm gonna be honest, like, I've always loved music. I've
done music in my normal life before, so this was
like something I don't want to say a joke. It
was just something I was doing for fun. I was
feeling good, of course, you know, and I was just
playing on this app that I discovered during the pandemic,
so I, you know, I just wanted to see how
it would sound if I made some little joky song
(20:27):
about beating your dick. And I, you know, first I
just put it out to my bros in our group,
you know, and then they was like going crazy over yo.
So I never expected that response. Man, I never expected that.
And then I was like well, let me put this
on Twitter and see what happens. And then came a
beat that dick Up challenge where people would like videos
(20:50):
and then you know, stroking and nothing to the song
with the song on the background, nominate another bro, and
then you know they the next bro do the video.
You know, So it became a whole thing. And so
I never expected that. Never expected that a lot of
people have used it and you know, like college videos
(21:12):
on porn Hub and stuff like that too. I never
expected to be this big and that it was on
Apple Music, Title, Amazon, all all that stuff. SoundCloud is everywhere.
You got it untitled. That's that's what.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It was like.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I love that releases. Yeah, and then we saw a
video of You're performing at live at a venue I
think it was Lambda Club here in New York, which
is amazing, Like it's like a high energy song, but
it's so funny because there's also like a trio of
people making out in the background.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
So let me tell you that was an interesting show. Bro,
like that show because that was at this Lambda Lounge.
Shout out to Lambda, the owners of Lambda and Lando overall.
They have landa lounge and Lambda the club in Brooklyn.
So this was at Brooklyn and so anyway, that that
night they had an event called meat Fest. So I
was the opening.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, who else could open?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Let me tell you something. They talk about demon Tom
on the internet right there, and there was this couple
that came in and then this third guy. So I
don't know if they were like a trouble. I don't
know what they were, but the whole show, they was
like vibing to the music, but they were making out
the entire show, filling up on each other. When I
(22:29):
got to beat the dicker, they start grabbing each other's dicks.
I was just like, Yo, this is a vibe.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I wish everybody could be like this at every show.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I was like, that's your target audience. It's like, regardless
of who's listening, they're getting hard out of that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It was like you didn't even have to be yes.
And who makes your beats? Do you make them? I
do not make my beats. My gut, I don't make them.
I definitely work with a wide variety of engineers and
producers who you know, pull music together and outsaid that,
and so what happens when you're like, can you make
(23:03):
me a be and then you come in and drop
the verse, Like what is their reaction? Like it was
a crazy experience because you know, they didn't know they
was getting when I came in and I got in
the booth and I just said, all right, I'm just
gonna close the door. And there was a wheel window
right here too that sai, I'm not even gonna look
over there. I'm just gonna start rapping. Just keep going. Yeah,
we did the take. We did like the first big
(23:25):
chunk and it was dead ass silent in the room
for like a little minute, and he was like, all right,
so where you want to start from? It was, you know,
after a while, it was like, you know what, he came.
He came to me. He was like, you know what,
you got an interesting, you know thing going on, but
(23:47):
your music hits. It sounds fire Like I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, when it's an album coming out, definitely go and
drop this year. I just want to make sure it's perfect.
Chronicles of a Beta is really I really want that
to be a beta diary for me to really give
people who don't understand, you know, what being a beata is,
or at least just understand my life to give them
a you know, a deeper size. Most of the songs
are telling the story about a bit experience that I've had,
(24:13):
or a bait experience that I fantasized about. So and
I write all my ship, write everything, so you know
it's coming straight from my experience as my heart.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So we were talking about it a lot, but I
think it's time we take a listen to your biggest hip.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Beat that dick up.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, that's all right here for all my baby bros.
You already know what time it is. Go ahead and
lock that door, put your headstone, turn that all your mother,
Get comfortable and beat that dick.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Beat that dip, sit back, relax on the wandrn out.
Get lost in time.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That beat that dick.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Beat that beat that mother fuck.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Sit back, relax on the wind, your mind the fu out,
get lost the time.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I'm my boss, I'm my bait. I ain't got time
to be I hate that if I ain't beating my best.
Believe I'm getting paper busting that one busting later, losing
count got later in my room, get my b b
X up. Bata is going up and down my tongue
all night long, beating down the Bush called me King
Kong that you know my dig the words of the
song he said, don't punish man, but don't never do me.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Wronge be that could beat that dick up. That could
beat that dick up, that could beat that mother beat
that dick up.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Sit back and relax, waand your mind come the fuck
out get lost.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I love it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it sure
over the head gets me every time.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like you know that looks like you know what I'm saying,
So you know, say that for later, Yeah, say that
for lady. You know what I'm saying, get your get
your night jumping off right, you wish you the happiest edging.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Thank you to try.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I came with you and like you know how it's
going because like yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Shoot me a dm be like all right, you know,
but you know we can talk. We can talk about that.
I gotta like get better, just like take your hands off. Yeah. Also,
loosen up your grip sometimes, loosen up your grip sometimes. Well,
I mean, if you want to last.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know, you know what I'm saying, And I think
I have to go with it with the mindset that
like you're not doing this to come that part, all right,
I want to thank Bag Band Excel so much for
stopping by.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
This has been a blast, This is so much fun.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Thank you. Where can we find you online? So yeah,
find me on Twitter, find me on Instagram, Bake band
Excel Official dot com that's where you can find me.
If you interested in being a member of b Excel
Bake Bros. Hit us up on Twitter, BBXL Bake Bros.
Or bb Excel Bagbros dot com. So yeah, thank you again,
(26:56):
thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
When we come back, we're going to be playing our
special side edition of our favorite game, Pump or Dump.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I can't wait and be right back.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I know, all right, welcome back. It is time to
play our favorite game here at Cruising Confessions, Pump or Dump.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Remember, pump means we love it, we're all about it,
and dump means the exact opposite.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
We do not want to see it again. Let's get
it out of here.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Absolutely, we are starting with peas and carrots.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Dump. I'd say dump too, Yeah, I mean you can't
make chicken pop pie without peas and carrots.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, but like that's all together in the one thing.
Carrots is on a side. Yeah, it just gives like
Midwest frozen vegetables.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
It's giving Midwest frozen vegetables.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I hate that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I understood that perfectly, and it conveyed what you needed
it too.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Oh man, Next up on our lists Nancy Reagan. Oh,
the throat out herself. Yeah, she walks so competitors could run. Truly,
I hate any Reagan. It's a dump.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Sorry, No, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Uh, you're gonna hate me. I'm gonna say, pump, You're
gonna pump.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
The woman who married one of the worst people to
handle the HIV eights crisis as president.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
She had me a throat. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
She was at the White House when they actively denied
the existence of h No, no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
But like if we're thinking about it, just from the context.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We're just thinking about her work, not your husband. Yeah,
just like throat goat, and like that's a pump to me,
being a throat oat is a pump. Being Nancy Reagan
is a dump. Okay, all right, can we separate the
artists from I'm done. I'm done here, I'm fine. Let's
(28:52):
go into the next one. We can have a difference
of opinion.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's okay, but yours is problematic and you will get
dragged for it online.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So that's fine.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm saying, as a throw go, I have to support
another throw go.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You know what, you know what, Chris Blerding a lot
about you.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I like the community.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, I help you and the corpse of Nancy Reagan
have a wonderful time building community together.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Next up we have Robin Robin as an Batman sidekick
another side There have been several iterations of Robin which
everyone turns into Nightwing and has the juicy booty.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
That's the one I like.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Also Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin with the nipples on
the outside. Life changing gay experience. Really, that was my awakenings,
all right. Next up is toothy blow Jobs. The concept
of a toothy blow job. I think we can do
this together, dumb This was quite the episode, that was
and I learned a lot too about like sort of
how folks think of self pleasure and the expansive possibilities
(29:54):
when you look at the baiting community or masturbation or
any form of solo play. It's really obviously like one
of the first sexual experiences I had was with myself. Yeah,
but I don't really think about you know, the time
that I put into self pleasure. So you know, I
think one of the best pieces of advice we got
today from bait bandit was be patient.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yes, and loosen your grip yes.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And I do want to say that I'm really glad
that we got to do this episode on sides and
baiting as well. There are so many possibilities for sharing
what your preferences and identity are on stuffies as well.
So like obviously y'all are very welcome to come base.
I mean, you can organize a group bait session.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You can identify as a side, and now with all
the new filters, you can filter out if you're looking
for just other sides to hang out with, which is
also amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was on the last night actually looking for a
circle jerk.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I love you. I was out trying the new endowment
filters just to see what the average size in my
neighborhood is, you.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Know what I mean, just to see what's neighbor We
want to thank our guests today, bait band x L.
Look for his album Confessions of Abater coming later this year,
and follow him at bait band XL on all socials
OnlyFans and just for fans and if you're a black
and Brown masservator, definitely check out bbxlbaitbros dot com. Thanks
(31:17):
for watching, See you next week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is a production of the Outspoken podcast
Network from iHeart Podcasts. It's directed by Adam Barron, produced
by Stevie Williams and Cameron Femino, and executive produced by
Eli Martin. Cruising Confessions is presented by Sniffy's, the ultimate
map based cruising platform for gay, by and curious people
ready to cruise. Check out the map at Snippy's dot
(31:40):
com and follow Sniffy's on socials at Snippy's app.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Good job, Good put, Job Put Joe
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