December 16, 2019 • 33 mins
Everyone warned Dana that her new beau, Roger, was hiding a dark past. Now that she’s been found dead, dark secrets will be unearthed, shining the spotlight on Roger and Dana’s closest family and friends. Can you find the killer hiding within this twisted love triangle?
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
And I'm won one. What's your emergency? My husband and
my ex husband are fighting in my house, six twenty
Lake Road. They have a gun. I tried to get
him to stop, but man, where are you? I'm I'm
in my living room. They're blocking the front door and
there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to
go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are
on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working, ma'am.
(00:48):
Wait near some coming Hello James Roger. Ma'am, you need
to leave the house right now. Baby, baby, please, no, no,
don't do this. Please don't do this. Man, ma'am are
(01:15):
you there, ma'am? Welcome to Solve, the interactive mystery podcast
where you don't just hear about crimes, you solve them.
Each episode will present you with a different case inspired
by a true crime. You'll interrogate suspects, piece together evidence,
(01:38):
and investigate the crime scene. You're the detective. This is
your case. Can you solve it self? Presents until death
do us part? I didn't kill my wife. I didn't
saying I even have to say that. We were married
for twenty five years. Happily. I have a daughter enrolled
(01:59):
it hurt mouth Christ. Our family photos look like the
goddamn picture that comes in the frame when you buy it. Yeah,
I admit I might have royally fucked things up last
you were that voicemail, But there is a difference between
what I did and cold blooded murder. Hey, honey, calling
from the hotel Coombomba. I just want to let you
know I landed safely. I'm gonna be in meetings all week.
(02:22):
What's new there? So you can't reach me? That's why Anyway,
I love you, I miss you. And oh hey, tell Margaret,
I'm gonna get her that Japanese Chalok what you like?
Does your wife really buy that? Ship? Dan? It's like
a child. She believes anything you tell her. You're bad,
I am diabolical. Oh oh, oh oh ship, it's just
(02:50):
six fol long. Have you spoken to your father? I'm
never talking to that asshole ever again, and neither should
you not call me that right now? This is serious.
He's not perfect, but he loves you. Why are you
defending dad? I mean, first he cheats on you, then
he divorces you. Now he's moving in with his child bride, Rachel.
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What her name is Rachel? She actually went to Dartmouth two,
or maybe it was Vasser. This is crazy, Mom. You're
acting like nothing happened, Like a tornado didn't just rip
through our entire life. Exactly do you want me to do?
I slept across from the same man for the last
twenty five years, and now he's not here, and I
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can't even leave the house because I don't know who
I am when I walk out the door anymore. Do
you want me to come home? No, munchkin, it's okay.
I I don't want you to see me like this.
Are you sure I can book a flight tonight? I
am sure. Enjoy school, Enjoy your friends. I am going
to get through this. I I just don't know how yet.
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Promise me you'll get out of the house at least
for a little bit, Okay, much, I promise. Sorry, new speakers,
I can't get the damn thing to stop playing. Oh
there it is? Oh wait, perfect? Actually Dana made this
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playlist for me ever since she well, you know, that's
all I listened to. Poor thing. She just wasn't the
same after the divorce, and I tried to be a
supported friend. But I was dating my boyfriend Roger at
the time, who wasn't dating as big as fan. He
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used to call her desperate Dana. I never told her that.
God I wish I had. What about him? Oh he's cute. Yeah,
he's twenty eight, So what you could be a cougar?
I hear mills are very in this season. I don't
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know why I even agreed to this. I'm swiping right, No,
please don't don't too late. I'm trying to watch the
game over here. Sorry, Han, just trying to get day
to some action. Why don't you just tell the neighborhood
gets around my house. I'm all for it. You mean
my house? Yeah, that's what I said. It's been such
an asshole lately. What are you looking for in a
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man anyway? I don't know. Maybe a guy who's nice,
likes to travel, was born before. I don't want to
meet them on some sketchy dating apps. I really so
much to ask for. Probably I should get going. You
just got here. It's okay, I have to be up
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early anyway, night roads are back at you. You'll call
me tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want have anyone else to
talk to you. I don't see why you can't be
a little nicer to Oh, I don't see why you
have to turn my your home into the first wives
club for every divorce, say in the neighborhood, Say what
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you want. But she was there for me when Steve
and I broke up. She bought me chocolate flowers. She
even made me this playlist and all the songs had
her cute little nickname for me. And I know, I know,
it's just she's been here every night this I know,
I know because I'm trying to find her a date.
She's a catch, She's loyal, she's fun. She well, I
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shouldn't say this. Dana is doing quite well for herself
since the divorce, financially speaking. How much are we talking here? Well,
I obviously didn't ask, but her ex made a boatload
in the real estate industry and he was broke when
they met, So no prenup. She is a catch, Roger kidding.
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I just wanted on record that this all started because
Barbara asked me to go over to Danas to fix
her sink. I mean, I was trying to be a
good guy. The woman didn't have a man in her life,
and honestly, I felt bad for And I know what
you're thinking, but it ain't true. I didn't find Cubidaro.
It found me that should do it. You are a
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life saver, Roger. Please, I'm gonna sucker for a damsel
in distress, especially if she's cute. Let me guess Barbara
told you to say that. I'm serious. You're a catch. Okay,
Prince Charming. Thanks for the inspiring words. Hey, you wouldn't
happen to have a spare shirt lying around since all dirty? Um? Yeah,
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I should have one of my exes around here, somewhere
you can change in the bathroom. We're here, right in
front of me. Dana, Dana, Dana. Oh, Roger, Roger, Roger.
I think it's really brave what you're doing. It's just
a shirt, really, No, I mean with the divorce, I
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know what it's like to start over. When my wife
and I split, I thought I'd never find love again.
Not having that intimacy, the meals, the secrets, the vacations,
I don't know, it just made life seem so lonely.
Exactly a really good listener. No one's ever told me
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that before. Maybe you're not spending time with the right people.
Mm hmm. You know I should get you that shirt, Barbara,
Barbara is probably expecting you home. I've got all the
time in the world, so I kind of maybe met
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a guy. You're kidding, Mom, you're that shot someone would
be interested in your mother. I just thought things were
going slowly on that front. Well, the name as Roger,
and he's an entrepreneur. He iss cute, he likes to trouble,
and he wears these sexy cowboy boots. Seriously, Oh, come on,
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something fun about him. What's his last name? I want
to do some cyberstalking. Oh, I don't even know if
it's that serious. Mom. You've literally swiped left on half
the men in New York and now you find when
you like and you're not sure if it's serious. Well,
there's some there's complications. He can't get it up, munchkin.
It's very common for men around your age. He's doing
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more than fine in that department, Thank you very much. Okay,
too much information? What is it he's dating another woman?
Is it serious? I don't know. Well, just ask him.
It's not him, I'm worried about. It's Barbara. What does
Barbara have to do with anything? Are you really going
to make me spell it out? Look? I love my mother,
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but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when
it came to men. I told her the way relationship
starts at the same way it ends. So if he's
cheating on your best friend, how long until he's cheating
on you. I'm not saying what happened to my mom
is her own fault. I'm just saying if she had
listened to me, all of this could have been avoided
and I would be in my policyde class right now
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instead of here spilling my guts to a bunch of
idiots who couldn't solve a murder if it took a
crap on their head. I'm I'm kidding. I'm sure if
a case literally defecated on your head, you could solve it.
You're welcome. We can't do this, Roger, I was going
to text you the same thing. Really, it's just not
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fair to Barbara. She's my best friend. She found out.
Of course, just because two people connect on such a deep,
primal level doesn't mean they should pursue it primal. Wow,
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I'm so corny. Forgive me. No, it's cute. You're all
I can think about. I woke up this morning and
I just wanted to see your face. I've been dying
if I didn't think the same thing. Can I delete
your number? Otherwise I'm just going to want to text youkay.
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I guess, by the way, I think I left my
shirt at your place. I'm looking at it right now.
I guess you can just throw it out. I could
do that, or you could come over and get it
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already on my way. Okay, I see, I see where
you're going with this. My best friend has an affair
with my boyfriend, and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well,
let me stop you right there. I didn't even like
Roger that much really. I mean one second he's all
lovey dovey, and the next he's telling me I could
afford to lose a few pounds. The man is like
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a roulette wheel. You never know which Roger you're gonna get. Actually,
there's only one thing that he likes, no matter what
side of the bed he wakes up on, and that's money.
Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me.
Did she tell you she used to park her car
outside the house and just stare at us for hours?
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And I forgot to mention that, did she The truth
is I would have loved Dana if she was holding
a squeegee on the side of the goddamn road, and
if you must know, she was the one who wanted
to spoil me. Welcome to the Beverly Hills Hotel. Welcome
to the Western Club Osaka. Hey Dana, it's James, just
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trying to get all of you. Kind of an emergency.
I don't know. I guess i'll called back a. Welcome
to the Aloha Spirit Resorting Spa. Your room is ready
for you on the third floor. Thank you so much.
I thought we got the penthouse. I'm not seeing that here. Well,
maybe you should look a little harder. It appears there
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is one room available. There will be an extra fee.
We'll take it. I love you, Peaches, you more, honey Bunny.
Hey James again, listen, we um we really need to
talk about mark with tuition. Thanks certain, well, they're not
really great right now, We'll have the lobster bisc the
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clams casino, the linguini, the chocolate lava cake. Screw it,
just bring up the whole damn menu. I take it
you're still avoiding me. I guess I deserve that. I
really didn't want to do this over voicemail. But um,
I'm falling apart over here. Remember my partner's in Japan.
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They screwed me over, just completely wipe me out. As
soon as Rachel found out. I couldn't keeper in guci.
She left no surprises there, I guess. And this is
hard for me to say. I um, hi, I can't
afford Margaret's tuition. If you can cover next semester, just
until I'm a little more liquid, it would really help.
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I miss you so much. Dana. You have to try
this lava cake. Anybody. M hm, this is amazing. Wait
that I don't anything. No, there's definitely something in there.
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It looks so shiny. Maybe you should pick it up.
Oh my god, it's it's a ring. Dna. You're the
love of my life. I know it's only been a
few months, but when you're my age, you know I've
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made every mistake a man can make in the screwed
up world, and the saint one of them. Will you
marry me? Mom? Please tell me you didn't say yes.
It's that I would think about it. What is there
to think about? You barely know this guy. I know
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how he makes me feel. I know I knew your
father for twenty five years, and look how that turned out.
Promise me you won't say yes until I at least
meet him. I can't even find this guy on Google.
And if you end up a lampshade in his basement,
I'm gonna feel guilty. Why I can't think I would
make a cute lampshade. Mom, promise, okame on Skain, I promise,
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trust me, you aren't gonna love him. So I come
home for Christmas and I meet Roger and he's actually
really nice, funny, charming, handsome, the whole thing. But something
kept hugging at me, Like he says, he's this really
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successful entrepreneur and he's founded all of these companies. But
he's living at our house. It's weird. So the two
of them go out to see a movie and I figure,
why not do a little snooping in his stuff? If
this guy is really so perfect, I'm not going to
find anything. Right. It took me under an hour to
unravel this dude's entire identity. He had boxes in my
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dad's old crawl space, dozens of them, and they're all
filled with these legal documents. So I start reading them
and it suddenly becomes very clear. Roger's actual name is
Chuck Raspittoli, which explains why he's the only human on
earth you can't google. Now. Roger might not have a
police record, but Chuck sure as hell does. Embezzlement, aggravated assault,
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restraining orders. There were crimes he was accused of I
didn't even know existed. Now, naturally, I lose track of
time because there's like thousands of pages, and before I
even realize it, he's standing right behind me. Do I
Jesus you know you shouldn't go through other people's things. Oh,
I was just looking for my pictures. Good because those
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boxes belong to an old friend of mine and he's
pretty private guy. Chuck Raspitoally, yeah, Chucky boy, he's trying
to turn over a new leaf. But when you put
him in a corner, who those what'll do? Okay, Chuck,
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I mean Roger, I'm going to go downstairs. You forgot
your pictures? Mom, We really need to talk about this.
I already told you whatever happened between you and Roger,
not his name, whatever it is, I don't want to
be in the middle of it. You're literally dating a
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criminal who changed his identity. Do you know how insane.
That is, Actually we're not dating. You broke up with him.
I married him. Oh my god. Okay, I know he's
not perfect, but who is. We all make mistakes. His
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were just a little bigger than normal. You already knew
all this stuff about him before I told you, didn't you? Fine?
I didn't say anything because because I thought this would happen.
People can change. I know I have, and I hope
you can too. Roger's home. I have to call much again, MoMA,
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And that was the last time I heard my mother's voice.
I would text her, not hear anything for days, and
then get these really cryptic responses. I'm really worried about you. Oh, well,
maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days.
What does that mean? It means Dartmouth just raised their
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tuition and I am starting to wonder why I'm the
one on the hook for it. Fine, be a bitch
get ripped off by some carnival grifter. I don't care anymore.
Oh and you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret,
you can pay for your own damn college. Well, then
you can pay for your own damn funeral, because that's
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where all this is heading. That wasn't a threat. I
was just stating a fact. You lay down with a dog,
you're gonna get fleas. Besides, there's no way that that
was my mom texting me. She never called me Margaret.
It was always Munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone.
That sociopath Roger Chuck, whatever his name is, obviously took
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her phone. Maybe you should worry about yourself. College is
expensive these days. It means Dartmouth just raise their tuition,
and I'm starting to wonder why I'm the one on
the hook for it. But you think I do. As
far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you could pay for your
own damn college. I'm not gonna sit here and rehash
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every little thing I did or didn't do. Margaret acts
like she's some innocent bystander and all this, Well, that's
a bunch of bullshit. I'm not the one who profited
off a Dana taking a dirt nap. Little miss Munchkin
was the one snooping around her mom's house, not me.
She was looking for Dana's will. I never even saw
the thing until Margaret dug it up the other day.
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Tell you what you really want to know who killed her,
follow them, and you're sure about this? Well, I I
feel she's positive. Respectfully, Roger, i'd like to hear that
from my client. You already have. She wants to take
her daughter out of her will and put me in it.
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It's not complicated. I'm sorry. Are you a lawyer? I
don't know. Do I look like I have horns growing
out of my goddamn skull? Roger? Sorry, I'm just a
little on edge lately. Dana has a lot of enemies.
She stopped paying her daughter's tuition, her ex husband is
basically stalking her, plus she eloped with her best friend.
I don't think we need to go into the details.
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Let's just say it's really scary right now, and God
forbid anything happens to me. I want Roger to be
taken care of. I will see what I can do good.
I'm heading out of town tomorrow, but when I get
back next week, I expect this to be handled. I said,
I'll see what I can do your I'm well getting
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paid enough to about tuesday, we'll be expecting those papers.
I gotta take this. I should probably go to Dana. Yeah,
be careful, Dana, What did you mean by. Be careful.
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It's two in the morning. You've said it before I
left your office, and I can't figure out why you
would say something like that. Is Roger nearby? He left
last night. I think you're married to an extremely dangerous man.
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That's no Roger wouldn't He loves me, Dana, I don't
think you called to tell me Roger loves you. You
call it? It It goes steep down. You know something's wrong. Jesus,
What Mike can I do? Hallen? Was it gone for
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a few days? Good? Go through his stuff, take pictures, videos,
document everything. There's no telling what he'll do, and you're
gonna need evidence if this goes where I think it's going. Hi,
my name is Diana Carson. The date is June PM.
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I'm in my home and I found this safe. It
belongs to my husband. I'm going to try to open it. Okay,
it's not his birthday, it's not my birthday. Ship Okay, wait, Chuck, Chuck, yes,
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holy shit. Please thank you for reaching the offices of
Stagner and Current. Please leave your message at the town
I think you were right. I know you were right.
I opened your safe and I someone's on the other line.
Call me when you get this. Jeemes, good you picked up.
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I wasn't. I wasn't expecting that. There is so much
I want to talk to you about it. Come over,
come over to the house now. I need you. Of course.
I can't tell you how good it is to hear
your boys. I have been thinking about Dana. I don't
even know where to start. Let me go first. I've
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made so many mistakes. I thought you were stopping me
from having a life, and now I know, Dana, you
are my life, sweetie. No, let me finish. I will
do whatever it takes to win you back, to win
our family back. Sweetie, I know you want that too.
Why else would you call me here? This isn't about you, asshole?
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What are you talking about? You know? Actually it is
about you. It's always about you. You treated me like
some item on a checklist, our entire marriage, and as
soon as you checked it off, you didn't give a ship.
And then somebody else comes along and they care about me,
what I want and what I need, or at least
they pretend to, And it feels so fucking good that
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I can't see five inches in front of my own face.
What is that on your finger. It's a wedding ring.
I tried to start over, and somehow I'm even worse
off than when I started. And it's all because of you.
You're joking, right, You already got remarried, Dane. It's only
been six months. Oh oh, you want to see a joke.
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Come on me. Here look at these guns, bullets, my
bank codes. Oh, and there's my Social Security number? Because
of you, this is my life. I can't believe you
would do this to me. Anybody is that him? Be
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right there? He is supposed to be out of town. Wait?
Does he have this place bucked? Dana? What the hell
is going on? His car? Is that in the driveway? Hello?
What are you doing with that gun? It's her husband's car.
I've been waiting for this day, really, because I had
no idea you even existed. Keep mad talking me like that,
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and you're gonna find out just how real I am.
Or you can get the funk out of my house
and I might let you leave in one piece. Okay,
how about you both leave just right now? Your house?
You hear that, Dana? His house? Say I didn't want you?
Oh my god, oh my god? Nine one one? What's
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your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting
in my house six twenty late road. They have a gun.
I tried to get him to stop, but a man,
where are you? I'm in my living room. They're blocking
the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay,
I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door.
The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room.
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Block stop working. Ma'am. Wait where you some coming? Hello,
James Roger. Mammy, you need to leave the house right now, baby, baby, please, no, no,
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don't do this, Please don't do this, please, ma'am. Man
are you there? Oh, my god, ma'am, ma'am are you there? Hello?
Are you there? You've reached the end of the investigation.
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It's time to decide who you think Dana's killer is.
Here are your suspects. Dana's daughter Margaret. Look, I love
my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist,
especially when it came to men. Danna's ex husband, James,
I didn't kill my wife just saying I even have
to say that. We were married for twenty five years, happily.
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Her former best friend Barbara. I see, I see where
you're going with this. My best friend has an affair
with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well,
let me stop you right there. Or her current husband, Roger,
that the woman didn't have a man in her life,
and honestly, I felt bad for and I know what
you're thinking, But I didn't find Cupidsaro. It found me.
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We'll have the answer after a word from our sponsor. Yeah,
so who killed Dana. Dana's killer was her best friend Barbara.
She thought Dana stole Roger from her and wanted revenge. Okay,
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I see, I see where you're going with this. My
best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I
want revenge, so I killed her. Of course, Barbara would
say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell
you She used to park her car outside the house
and just stare at us for hours. What gave Barbara
away was Dana's dying words, maybe baby, please, no, no,
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don't do this. Because Dana had a nickname for everyone.
She never called me Margaret. It was always munchkin. She
literally had a nickname for everyone. Can you call me
that right now? This is serious. You are my sweetie,
to win our family back, sweetie, but We'll take it.
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I love you, Peaches. The name Dana called the Killer
was the same nickname she had for Barbara. I'm serious.
She really took care of me. She bought me chocolate flowers.
She even made me this playlist and all the songs
had her cute little nickname for me in it. Actually,
Dana made this playlist for me ever since she is
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whoa you know, until I listened to baby Baby, Please, no, No,
don't do this. This episode was inspired by a true
crime that occurred in two thousand and fourteen, when a
wealthy divorced woman began dating a man who had a
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secret criminal past despite warnings from her family that her
life was in danger. The two got married and moved
in together. Shortly after, the husband tried to extort the
woman for money and was killed while attempting to kidnap
her daughter. Dana was played by Lisa Fussen, James by
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Andy Milder, Margaret by Serrie Miller, Roger by Roy Samuelson,
Barbara by Nadine Ellis, Shanna by Anne's son, Mistress by
Sam Valentine, Nine on one Operator by Angela Quintana, Concierge
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one by Angelie Kane, Concierge two by Michael Muresma, Concierge
three by Piper Gillen, Written by Adam Letterer, directed by
Walt Palmer, produced, recorded and mixed by Salt Audio Executive
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Produced by Corey Search and Walt Palmer. Sound designed by
Jasper van Dyke for Salt Audio. Original music and score
by Noah Gersh and Jamie Scheffman at Salt Audio Production
Coordinator Liz Lamy. Recorded at todd Ao Studios. This episode
of Salve was hosted by me Courtney Falsey. Next time
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on Solve, a college student is killed in cold blood.
You're now learning that the body of twenty one year
old Rob Holt has been discovered in the backseat of
his car. The victim is said to have been found
with gunshot wounds to the face and chef, and the
verdict is in. Julia Harris has been found guilty of
first degree murder in the killing of her ex boyfriend.
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For two years, I've been locked up, away from my parents,
my friends for something I didn't do. I've used all
my appeals, I tried hiring new lawyers. Nobody believes me,
but I know that these podcasts sometimes they clear people's
names right, get them a new trial. Listen, you're my
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last chance. Here. I swear to you I'm innocent. Tune
in next week to find out
And I'm won one. What's your emergency? My husband and
my ex husband are fighting in my house, six twenty
Lake Road. They have a gun. I tried to get
him to stop, but man, where are you? I'm I'm
in my living room. They're blocking the front door and
there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to
go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are
on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working, ma'am.
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Wait near some coming Hello James Roger. Ma'am, you need
to leave the house right now. Baby, baby, please, no, no,
don't do this. Please don't do this. Man, ma'am are
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you there, ma'am? Welcome to Solve, the interactive mystery podcast
where you don't just hear about crimes, you solve them.
Each episode will present you with a different case inspired
by a true crime. You'll interrogate suspects, piece together evidence,
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and investigate the crime scene. You're the detective. This is
your case. Can you solve it self? Presents until death
do us part? I didn't kill my wife. I didn't
saying I even have to say that. We were married
for twenty five years. Happily. I have a daughter enrolled
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it hurt mouth Christ. Our family photos look like the
goddamn picture that comes in the frame when you buy it. Yeah,
I admit I might have royally fucked things up last
you were that voicemail, But there is a difference between
what I did and cold blooded murder. Hey, honey, calling
from the hotel Coombomba. I just want to let you
know I landed safely. I'm gonna be in meetings all week.
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What's new there? So you can't reach me? That's why Anyway,
I love you, I miss you. And oh hey, tell Margaret,
I'm gonna get her that Japanese Chalok what you like?
Does your wife really buy that? Ship? Dan? It's like
a child. She believes anything you tell her. You're bad,
I am diabolical. Oh oh, oh oh ship, it's just
(02:50):
six fol long. Have you spoken to your father? I'm
never talking to that asshole ever again, and neither should
you not call me that right now? This is serious.
He's not perfect, but he loves you. Why are you
defending dad? I mean, first he cheats on you, then
he divorces you. Now he's moving in with his child bride, Rachel.
(03:13):
What her name is Rachel? She actually went to Dartmouth two,
or maybe it was Vasser. This is crazy, Mom. You're
acting like nothing happened, Like a tornado didn't just rip
through our entire life. Exactly do you want me to do?
I slept across from the same man for the last
twenty five years, and now he's not here, and I
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can't even leave the house because I don't know who
I am when I walk out the door anymore. Do
you want me to come home? No, munchkin, it's okay.
I I don't want you to see me like this.
Are you sure I can book a flight tonight? I
am sure. Enjoy school, Enjoy your friends. I am going
to get through this. I I just don't know how yet.
(03:57):
Promise me you'll get out of the house at least
for a little bit, Okay, much, I promise. Sorry, new speakers,
I can't get the damn thing to stop playing. Oh
there it is? Oh wait, perfect? Actually Dana made this
(04:19):
playlist for me ever since she well, you know, that's
all I listened to. Poor thing. She just wasn't the
same after the divorce, and I tried to be a
supported friend. But I was dating my boyfriend Roger at
the time, who wasn't dating as big as fan. He
(04:40):
used to call her desperate Dana. I never told her that.
God I wish I had. What about him? Oh he's cute. Yeah,
he's twenty eight, So what you could be a cougar?
I hear mills are very in this season. I don't
(05:01):
know why I even agreed to this. I'm swiping right, No,
please don't don't too late. I'm trying to watch the
game over here. Sorry, Han, just trying to get day
to some action. Why don't you just tell the neighborhood
gets around my house. I'm all for it. You mean
my house? Yeah, that's what I said. It's been such
an asshole lately. What are you looking for in a
(05:25):
man anyway? I don't know. Maybe a guy who's nice,
likes to travel, was born before. I don't want to
meet them on some sketchy dating apps. I really so
much to ask for. Probably I should get going. You
just got here. It's okay, I have to be up
(05:46):
early anyway, night roads are back at you. You'll call
me tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want have anyone else to
talk to you. I don't see why you can't be
a little nicer to Oh, I don't see why you
have to turn my your home into the first wives
club for every divorce, say in the neighborhood, Say what
(06:08):
you want. But she was there for me when Steve
and I broke up. She bought me chocolate flowers. She
even made me this playlist and all the songs had
her cute little nickname for me. And I know, I know,
it's just she's been here every night this I know,
I know because I'm trying to find her a date.
She's a catch, She's loyal, she's fun. She well, I
(06:29):
shouldn't say this. Dana is doing quite well for herself
since the divorce, financially speaking. How much are we talking here? Well,
I obviously didn't ask, but her ex made a boatload
in the real estate industry and he was broke when
they met, So no prenup. She is a catch, Roger kidding.
(06:56):
I just wanted on record that this all started because
Barbara asked me to go over to Danas to fix
her sink. I mean, I was trying to be a
good guy. The woman didn't have a man in her life,
and honestly, I felt bad for And I know what
you're thinking, but it ain't true. I didn't find Cubidaro.
It found me that should do it. You are a
(07:26):
life saver, Roger. Please, I'm gonna sucker for a damsel
in distress, especially if she's cute. Let me guess Barbara
told you to say that. I'm serious. You're a catch. Okay,
Prince Charming. Thanks for the inspiring words. Hey, you wouldn't
happen to have a spare shirt lying around since all dirty? Um? Yeah,
(07:47):
I should have one of my exes around here, somewhere
you can change in the bathroom. We're here, right in
front of me. Dana, Dana, Dana. Oh, Roger, Roger, Roger.
I think it's really brave what you're doing. It's just
a shirt, really, No, I mean with the divorce, I
(08:08):
know what it's like to start over. When my wife
and I split, I thought I'd never find love again.
Not having that intimacy, the meals, the secrets, the vacations,
I don't know, it just made life seem so lonely.
Exactly a really good listener. No one's ever told me
(08:32):
that before. Maybe you're not spending time with the right people.
Mm hmm. You know I should get you that shirt, Barbara,
Barbara is probably expecting you home. I've got all the
time in the world, so I kind of maybe met
(08:58):
a guy. You're kidding, Mom, you're that shot someone would
be interested in your mother. I just thought things were
going slowly on that front. Well, the name as Roger,
and he's an entrepreneur. He iss cute, he likes to trouble,
and he wears these sexy cowboy boots. Seriously, Oh, come on,
(09:20):
something fun about him. What's his last name? I want
to do some cyberstalking. Oh, I don't even know if
it's that serious. Mom. You've literally swiped left on half
the men in New York and now you find when
you like and you're not sure if it's serious. Well,
there's some there's complications. He can't get it up, munchkin.
It's very common for men around your age. He's doing
(09:41):
more than fine in that department, Thank you very much. Okay,
too much information? What is it he's dating another woman?
Is it serious? I don't know. Well, just ask him.
It's not him, I'm worried about. It's Barbara. What does
Barbara have to do with anything? Are you really going
to make me spell it out? Look? I love my mother,
(10:08):
but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when
it came to men. I told her the way relationship
starts at the same way it ends. So if he's
cheating on your best friend, how long until he's cheating
on you. I'm not saying what happened to my mom
is her own fault. I'm just saying if she had
listened to me, all of this could have been avoided
and I would be in my policyde class right now
(10:28):
instead of here spilling my guts to a bunch of
idiots who couldn't solve a murder if it took a
crap on their head. I'm I'm kidding. I'm sure if
a case literally defecated on your head, you could solve it.
You're welcome. We can't do this, Roger, I was going
to text you the same thing. Really, it's just not
(10:53):
fair to Barbara. She's my best friend. She found out.
Of course, just because two people connect on such a deep,
primal level doesn't mean they should pursue it primal. Wow,
(11:18):
I'm so corny. Forgive me. No, it's cute. You're all
I can think about. I woke up this morning and
I just wanted to see your face. I've been dying
if I didn't think the same thing. Can I delete
your number? Otherwise I'm just going to want to text youkay.
(11:44):
I guess, by the way, I think I left my
shirt at your place. I'm looking at it right now.
I guess you can just throw it out. I could
do that, or you could come over and get it
(12:07):
already on my way. Okay, I see, I see where
you're going with this. My best friend has an affair
with my boyfriend, and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well,
let me stop you right there. I didn't even like
Roger that much really. I mean one second he's all
lovey dovey, and the next he's telling me I could
afford to lose a few pounds. The man is like
(12:29):
a roulette wheel. You never know which Roger you're gonna get. Actually,
there's only one thing that he likes, no matter what
side of the bed he wakes up on, and that's money.
Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me.
Did she tell you she used to park her car
outside the house and just stare at us for hours?
(12:50):
And I forgot to mention that, did she The truth
is I would have loved Dana if she was holding
a squeegee on the side of the goddamn road, and
if you must know, she was the one who wanted
to spoil me. Welcome to the Beverly Hills Hotel. Welcome
to the Western Club Osaka. Hey Dana, it's James, just
(13:13):
trying to get all of you. Kind of an emergency.
I don't know. I guess i'll called back a. Welcome
to the Aloha Spirit Resorting Spa. Your room is ready
for you on the third floor. Thank you so much.
I thought we got the penthouse. I'm not seeing that here. Well,
maybe you should look a little harder. It appears there
(13:37):
is one room available. There will be an extra fee.
We'll take it. I love you, Peaches, you more, honey Bunny.
Hey James again, listen, we um we really need to
talk about mark with tuition. Thanks certain, well, they're not
really great right now, We'll have the lobster bisc the
(13:57):
clams casino, the linguini, the chocolate lava cake. Screw it,
just bring up the whole damn menu. I take it
you're still avoiding me. I guess I deserve that. I
really didn't want to do this over voicemail. But um,
I'm falling apart over here. Remember my partner's in Japan.
(14:21):
They screwed me over, just completely wipe me out. As
soon as Rachel found out. I couldn't keeper in guci.
She left no surprises there, I guess. And this is
hard for me to say. I um, hi, I can't
afford Margaret's tuition. If you can cover next semester, just
until I'm a little more liquid, it would really help.
(14:44):
I miss you so much. Dana. You have to try
this lava cake. Anybody. M hm, this is amazing. Wait
that I don't anything. No, there's definitely something in there.
(15:05):
It looks so shiny. Maybe you should pick it up.
Oh my god, it's it's a ring. Dna. You're the
love of my life. I know it's only been a
few months, but when you're my age, you know I've
(15:31):
made every mistake a man can make in the screwed
up world, and the saint one of them. Will you
marry me? Mom? Please tell me you didn't say yes.
It's that I would think about it. What is there
to think about? You barely know this guy. I know
(15:52):
how he makes me feel. I know I knew your
father for twenty five years, and look how that turned out.
Promise me you won't say yes until I at least
meet him. I can't even find this guy on Google.
And if you end up a lampshade in his basement,
I'm gonna feel guilty. Why I can't think I would
make a cute lampshade. Mom, promise, okame on Skain, I promise,
(16:13):
trust me, you aren't gonna love him. So I come
home for Christmas and I meet Roger and he's actually
really nice, funny, charming, handsome, the whole thing. But something
kept hugging at me, Like he says, he's this really
(16:33):
successful entrepreneur and he's founded all of these companies. But
he's living at our house. It's weird. So the two
of them go out to see a movie and I figure,
why not do a little snooping in his stuff? If
this guy is really so perfect, I'm not going to
find anything. Right. It took me under an hour to
unravel this dude's entire identity. He had boxes in my
(16:55):
dad's old crawl space, dozens of them, and they're all
filled with these legal documents. So I start reading them
and it suddenly becomes very clear. Roger's actual name is
Chuck Raspittoli, which explains why he's the only human on
earth you can't google. Now. Roger might not have a
police record, but Chuck sure as hell does. Embezzlement, aggravated assault,
(17:17):
restraining orders. There were crimes he was accused of I
didn't even know existed. Now, naturally, I lose track of
time because there's like thousands of pages, and before I
even realize it, he's standing right behind me. Do I
Jesus you know you shouldn't go through other people's things. Oh,
I was just looking for my pictures. Good because those
(17:43):
boxes belong to an old friend of mine and he's
pretty private guy. Chuck Raspitoally, yeah, Chucky boy, he's trying
to turn over a new leaf. But when you put
him in a corner, who those what'll do? Okay, Chuck,
(18:03):
I mean Roger, I'm going to go downstairs. You forgot
your pictures? Mom, We really need to talk about this.
I already told you whatever happened between you and Roger,
not his name, whatever it is, I don't want to
be in the middle of it. You're literally dating a
(18:25):
criminal who changed his identity. Do you know how insane.
That is, Actually we're not dating. You broke up with him.
I married him. Oh my god. Okay, I know he's
not perfect, but who is. We all make mistakes. His
(18:46):
were just a little bigger than normal. You already knew
all this stuff about him before I told you, didn't you? Fine?
I didn't say anything because because I thought this would happen.
People can change. I know I have, and I hope
you can too. Roger's home. I have to call much again, MoMA,
(19:08):
And that was the last time I heard my mother's voice.
I would text her, not hear anything for days, and
then get these really cryptic responses. I'm really worried about you. Oh, well,
maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days.
What does that mean? It means Dartmouth just raised their
(19:30):
tuition and I am starting to wonder why I'm the
one on the hook for it. Fine, be a bitch
get ripped off by some carnival grifter. I don't care anymore.
Oh and you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret,
you can pay for your own damn college. Well, then
you can pay for your own damn funeral, because that's
(19:50):
where all this is heading. That wasn't a threat. I
was just stating a fact. You lay down with a dog,
you're gonna get fleas. Besides, there's no way that that
was my mom texting me. She never called me Margaret.
It was always Munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone.
That sociopath Roger Chuck, whatever his name is, obviously took
(20:12):
her phone. Maybe you should worry about yourself. College is
expensive these days. It means Dartmouth just raise their tuition,
and I'm starting to wonder why I'm the one on
the hook for it. But you think I do. As
far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you could pay for your
own damn college. I'm not gonna sit here and rehash
(20:35):
every little thing I did or didn't do. Margaret acts
like she's some innocent bystander and all this, Well, that's
a bunch of bullshit. I'm not the one who profited
off a Dana taking a dirt nap. Little miss Munchkin
was the one snooping around her mom's house, not me.
She was looking for Dana's will. I never even saw
the thing until Margaret dug it up the other day.
(20:55):
Tell you what you really want to know who killed her,
follow them, and you're sure about this? Well, I I
feel she's positive. Respectfully, Roger, i'd like to hear that
from my client. You already have. She wants to take
her daughter out of her will and put me in it.
(21:18):
It's not complicated. I'm sorry. Are you a lawyer? I
don't know. Do I look like I have horns growing
out of my goddamn skull? Roger? Sorry, I'm just a
little on edge lately. Dana has a lot of enemies.
She stopped paying her daughter's tuition, her ex husband is
basically stalking her, plus she eloped with her best friend.
I don't think we need to go into the details.
(21:40):
Let's just say it's really scary right now, and God
forbid anything happens to me. I want Roger to be
taken care of. I will see what I can do good.
I'm heading out of town tomorrow, but when I get
back next week, I expect this to be handled. I said,
I'll see what I can do your I'm well getting
(22:00):
paid enough to about tuesday, we'll be expecting those papers.
I gotta take this. I should probably go to Dana. Yeah,
be careful, Dana, What did you mean by. Be careful.
(22:31):
It's two in the morning. You've said it before I
left your office, and I can't figure out why you
would say something like that. Is Roger nearby? He left
last night. I think you're married to an extremely dangerous man.
(22:52):
That's no Roger wouldn't He loves me, Dana, I don't
think you called to tell me Roger loves you. You
call it? It It goes steep down. You know something's wrong. Jesus,
What Mike can I do? Hallen? Was it gone for
(23:12):
a few days? Good? Go through his stuff, take pictures, videos,
document everything. There's no telling what he'll do, and you're
gonna need evidence if this goes where I think it's going. Hi,
my name is Diana Carson. The date is June PM.
(23:35):
I'm in my home and I found this safe. It
belongs to my husband. I'm going to try to open it. Okay,
it's not his birthday, it's not my birthday. Ship Okay, wait, Chuck, Chuck, yes,
(23:59):
holy shit. Please thank you for reaching the offices of
Stagner and Current. Please leave your message at the town
I think you were right. I know you were right.
I opened your safe and I someone's on the other line.
Call me when you get this. Jeemes, good you picked up.
(24:22):
I wasn't. I wasn't expecting that. There is so much
I want to talk to you about it. Come over,
come over to the house now. I need you. Of course.
I can't tell you how good it is to hear
your boys. I have been thinking about Dana. I don't
even know where to start. Let me go first. I've
(24:43):
made so many mistakes. I thought you were stopping me
from having a life, and now I know, Dana, you
are my life, sweetie. No, let me finish. I will
do whatever it takes to win you back, to win
our family back. Sweetie, I know you want that too.
Why else would you call me here? This isn't about you, asshole?
(25:04):
What are you talking about? You know? Actually it is
about you. It's always about you. You treated me like
some item on a checklist, our entire marriage, and as
soon as you checked it off, you didn't give a ship.
And then somebody else comes along and they care about me,
what I want and what I need, or at least
they pretend to, And it feels so fucking good that
(25:26):
I can't see five inches in front of my own face.
What is that on your finger. It's a wedding ring.
I tried to start over, and somehow I'm even worse
off than when I started. And it's all because of you.
You're joking, right, You already got remarried, Dane. It's only
been six months. Oh oh, you want to see a joke.
(25:49):
Come on me. Here look at these guns, bullets, my
bank codes. Oh, and there's my Social Security number? Because
of you, this is my life. I can't believe you
would do this to me. Anybody is that him? Be
(26:11):
right there? He is supposed to be out of town. Wait?
Does he have this place bucked? Dana? What the hell
is going on? His car? Is that in the driveway? Hello?
What are you doing with that gun? It's her husband's car.
I've been waiting for this day, really, because I had
no idea you even existed. Keep mad talking me like that,
(26:34):
and you're gonna find out just how real I am.
Or you can get the funk out of my house
and I might let you leave in one piece. Okay,
how about you both leave just right now? Your house?
You hear that, Dana? His house? Say I didn't want you?
Oh my god, oh my god? Nine one one? What's
(27:00):
your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting
in my house six twenty late road. They have a gun.
I tried to get him to stop, but a man,
where are you? I'm in my living room. They're blocking
the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay,
I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door.
The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room.
(27:30):
Block stop working. Ma'am. Wait where you some coming? Hello,
James Roger. Mammy, you need to leave the house right now, baby, baby, please, no, no,
(27:54):
don't do this, Please don't do this, please, ma'am. Man
are you there? Oh, my god, ma'am, ma'am are you there? Hello?
Are you there? You've reached the end of the investigation.
(28:24):
It's time to decide who you think Dana's killer is.
Here are your suspects. Dana's daughter Margaret. Look, I love
my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist,
especially when it came to men. Danna's ex husband, James,
I didn't kill my wife just saying I even have
to say that. We were married for twenty five years, happily.
(28:47):
Her former best friend Barbara. I see, I see where
you're going with this. My best friend has an affair
with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well,
let me stop you right there. Or her current husband, Roger,
that the woman didn't have a man in her life,
and honestly, I felt bad for and I know what
you're thinking, But I didn't find Cupidsaro. It found me.
(29:12):
We'll have the answer after a word from our sponsor. Yeah,
so who killed Dana. Dana's killer was her best friend Barbara.
She thought Dana stole Roger from her and wanted revenge. Okay,
(29:36):
I see, I see where you're going with this. My
best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I
want revenge, so I killed her. Of course, Barbara would
say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell
you She used to park her car outside the house
and just stare at us for hours. What gave Barbara
away was Dana's dying words, maybe baby, please, no, no,
(30:00):
don't do this. Because Dana had a nickname for everyone.
She never called me Margaret. It was always munchkin. She
literally had a nickname for everyone. Can you call me
that right now? This is serious. You are my sweetie,
to win our family back, sweetie, but We'll take it.
(30:22):
I love you, Peaches. The name Dana called the Killer
was the same nickname she had for Barbara. I'm serious.
She really took care of me. She bought me chocolate flowers.
She even made me this playlist and all the songs
had her cute little nickname for me in it. Actually,
Dana made this playlist for me ever since she is
(30:47):
whoa you know, until I listened to baby Baby, Please, no, No,
don't do this. This episode was inspired by a true
crime that occurred in two thousand and fourteen, when a
wealthy divorced woman began dating a man who had a
(31:09):
secret criminal past despite warnings from her family that her
life was in danger. The two got married and moved
in together. Shortly after, the husband tried to extort the
woman for money and was killed while attempting to kidnap
her daughter. Dana was played by Lisa Fussen, James by
(31:31):
Andy Milder, Margaret by Serrie Miller, Roger by Roy Samuelson,
Barbara by Nadine Ellis, Shanna by Anne's son, Mistress by
Sam Valentine, Nine on one Operator by Angela Quintana, Concierge
(31:53):
one by Angelie Kane, Concierge two by Michael Muresma, Concierge
three by Piper Gillen, Written by Adam Letterer, directed by
Walt Palmer, produced, recorded and mixed by Salt Audio Executive
(32:15):
Produced by Corey Search and Walt Palmer. Sound designed by
Jasper van Dyke for Salt Audio. Original music and score
by Noah Gersh and Jamie Scheffman at Salt Audio Production
Coordinator Liz Lamy. Recorded at todd Ao Studios. This episode
of Salve was hosted by me Courtney Falsey. Next time
(32:40):
on Solve, a college student is killed in cold blood.
You're now learning that the body of twenty one year
old Rob Holt has been discovered in the backseat of
his car. The victim is said to have been found
with gunshot wounds to the face and chef, and the
verdict is in. Julia Harris has been found guilty of
first degree murder in the killing of her ex boyfriend.
(33:04):
For two years, I've been locked up, away from my parents,
my friends for something I didn't do. I've used all
my appeals, I tried hiring new lawyers. Nobody believes me,
but I know that these podcasts sometimes they clear people's
names right, get them a new trial. Listen, you're my
(33:29):
last chance. Here. I swear to you I'm innocent. Tune
in next week to find out
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