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August 8, 2022 47 mins

With the Queen of All Queens crowned, Alec and Loni take a look back at their favorite moments from the season. Oh, and they have a special guest to help them! Monét X Change is here! She talks about her experience and something that didn’t make the final edit of the show. And, if you’re wondering what we’ll be covering next Squirrel Friends, Alec and Loni are here to tell you. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to another episode of Squirrel Friends,
the official Rue Paul's Drag Race Podcast. I'm Alec Mava
and I'm here to introduce a woman so full of
goodwill it's in her name. Please welcome Lonnie Love. Hello, Yo,
I'm good. I'm just okay. You're miss show bizz. So
I just want to know. Did you meet Brad Pitt

(00:26):
as a Bullet Train premiere? Oh my goodness, yes, yes
I met him because I know one of the stars
is Briant tyree him, love him, love him Atlanta. Oh
so good? Are you watching good? I'm watching Atlanta. I
watched everything that he does and he's such a cool guy.
So he really really is. But I was waiting at

(00:48):
the end. I went to the Bullet Train. You know,
I didn't want to go first of all. Why it's
just a lot happening and I never want to go.
Have you said that I never want to get her?
I never want to go. But this was a huge premier. Now,
you know since COVID there haven't been a like they've
been tiny premier is not something huge, Alec, I'm so

(01:10):
glad I went because it was down in Westwood at
the u c l A theater about beautiful theater. It's beautiful.
I mean when I say it was, it had to
be hundreds of fans all lining the streets because it's
a very small little area by the campus. And the
red carpet the pink carpet was huge, Alec it was

(01:33):
huge because exactly and so I did the carpet, had
a great time, and I said, you know what, I'm
just gonna wait on you know, Brian, maybe he'll come
and I can, you know, say hi to him. So
I waited like at the opening of where the theater was,
and he came right with Brad Pitt. And I was like,

(01:55):
oh my god, my friend is with Brad Pitt. Seen
him in person. I've never seen Brad Pitt in person,
so I didn't know how he was gonna act or whatever.
But of course Brian sees me and I was like, hey, bro, heydey,
and so we take a picture and Brad is right
next to him and I said, Brad, can I get
a selfie? He's like yeah, and he comes in for

(02:15):
the selfie so you can look at it on my Instagram.
It was great, and you know, we're getting back to
normal it's just like what we're doing with drag Race.
I think because I did this season that it was
you know, the season pandemic. Yes, but we're on every week.
I think he studio in order to be hermetically sealed

(02:35):
against any infection. Wait, before we go on the drag race,
and we are going to talk about drag Race, trust
and believe. I want to know about Brad Pitt. Is
he tall? Did he smell good? He's taller than me.
He had on like a mint green a linen suit,
a very comfortable casual. Hair was slicked back, but it
had dried out a little bit, and breath was minty

(02:59):
for fresh yes, and he smelt like a man, like
like you know, like overdone. It wasn't funky. It was
a little musky. A little man's a little man. It
was like I didn't care because you get did you
know that was cool about because I know you want
you with your boyfriend, which I don't know. I wouldn't

(03:20):
take my husband to a Brad Pitt premiure James got
a picture. James got a picture with him. I mean
he was right behind me. And what happened was Brian
took a picture with me and Brad and then James
was like, hey, Brad. You know Brad saw him. He
was like, he took a picture with him, so he
has his own picture, So okay, he's really quickly other stars.

(03:43):
This premiere was filled with stars. You had Joey King,
who was also part of the movie. You had Bad
Bunny who is also in the movie. He was there.
There was Smoleu who is from Shane Chi when I say,
he's so nice, and his girlfriend Jay, she's an actress

(04:03):
as well. I took pictures with him. Ryan Destiny, the
actress and singers, she was also there. So it was
packed full of stars, especially a lot of young Hollywood
And it was really a great time. And I'm glad
that I went. And you know, maybe we can get
back to normal now a little bit, just a little bit,
you know. See, Like this is the thing. If I'm
invited to a premiere, I'm like, Okay, I'll go, but

(04:24):
if the movie is terrible, I leave early and I
go start eating the food. There's an aside. So I
went to one of the Fast and Furious movies. There's
been so many of them. I went to that premiere.
I walked the red carpet. I was like, I'm not
the audience for these movies. If you like these movies,
don't hate me on Twitter. I was not interested in

(04:47):
Jokyo drifting, and so I left the theater and I
just ate everything inside. You know, Well, it's important to
go to those though, because especially when they're the major ones,
because the next day I got an offer for a
Christmas and I think it was because I showed up. Yeah. Yeah,
that's why my husband says to me. He says, if

(05:09):
I don't want to go to something, he'll say to
me in the gentlest way, get the funk out of
here and get a job and make more money trying
to get jobs, and let's do our job to recap.
This is the last recap episode for All Star seven. Yes,
the very last one, the very last one. But last

(05:30):
week we spoke to the winner, Jinks Monsoon. That was exciting.
I was so excited and I've seen all the press
that she's been giddy and it's just so great for
her and people were so happy about her win. How
did you feel about it? I felt genuinely happy about
her win. I felt that well, having seen her perform live,
having known her all these years and knowing how hard
she works, how original she is, I'm very very happy

(05:53):
and I was even happier after talking to her because
she was so cool, so sweet, and she was in Australia.
I want people to know that that she has been
doing press from Australia, so the time differences have been
like major, but she has been a champ. And this
is what you do when you win, you gotta do it,
you know. Today we're gonna take a look back at
the incredible season of All Star seven, the All Winner season.

(06:15):
We're gonna talk about some of our favorite moments and
themes we've noticed, and we have a very special guest,
Alec who were we going to talk about. Exchange is
gonna be on the show today. Exchange. Have you let
her know? This is my first Just really cool, really

(06:36):
nice and I just can't wait to speak with her. Yeah,
did some exciting things, very very much so. But first
we want to spend a little time to share some
exciting drag Race. I mean yes, specifically RuPaul's Drag Race
Season fourteen has been nominated for eleven Emmys, them and

(07:01):
Levin Emmy's, including Outstanding Host for a Reality or Competition
Program and Outstanding Competition Program. Didn't you just win an
Emmy for makeup? I just won my second Emmy for
makeup and I also won for Hosts, So it's it's
just great. Where do you keep the Emmy's in your house?
Where do you do you keep him? Where everybody can see?
All of my awards are on a library is a

(07:24):
white bookshelf, because my whole living room is white and
I have a white bookshelf, and so I put all
of my awards there. So there are people when they
cut in, they could see it, and it's just a
talking piece. It's like, oh, there's my two Emmys. We
got two of them once for makeup. I'm a makeup
artist as well. Well, we're so excited, you know. And

(07:45):
then if you want to catch up on all of
season fourteen, it's now on v H one dot com.
There's so many fun challenges. There was mulan Rue the musical,
in which Lady Camden wanted because she was playing the
ringleader kind of uh, the show person who was putting
on the show, kind of the Ziddler character from the movie,
and it was a character she didn't want to play,

(08:08):
and she ran with it and said oh, I'm gonna
have fun with this. And one that was so good.
I love Jasmine Kennedy came out as trans on Untucked
and that was a big moment. How huge was that moment,
Alex It was a big moment for her. I mean
just to kind of seem like, you know, any moment
before you come out. I can't speak for everybody, but

(08:28):
you are crossing the threshold to live in your truth
right and you are so filled with your own truth
that you're willing to risk what people think of you.
You're willing to risk relationships, You're willing to risk a
parents love you. You know a lot of people come
from loving families and still are afraid they're gonna lose
their parents if they come out. So it was very
great for her to do. Not only did she come out,

(08:51):
Cornbread is trans, Willow later came out as trans, Bosco
was trans, and Carrie Colby, bringing the grand total to five.
We had five trans queens this year, And I just
think about, you know, you think about all the trans people.
This is such a great moment for trans people in
time because I always think about historically on all the

(09:11):
trans people who have lived throughout history, who did not
have this luxury. I mean you said last week. For
what the show does is it acknowledges everybody's humanity, right,
and it's so much harder to be prejudiced against somebody
you've actually met, or a representation of somebody you've actually seen,
do you know what I mean, Because it's not the

(09:32):
scary thought in your head. The scary thought in your
head is always scarier than the actual reality of somebody
going I'm trans It's like, oh, it's just you. You're lovely,
You're great. So that was a really really great moment.
That was a good time. That was a good moment,
and I'm glad that that happened, you know, because we're
still fighting, you know, always, you know. In addition to that,

(09:53):
there's always twist during the season. So they had this
chocolate bar twist and every queen was selected a RuPaul
chocolate bar, and I got a chocolate bar because they
give you like, you know, yeah goodies, And I was like, oh,
what is this delicious? I heard the pre pandemic gift
basket at RuPaul's drag race was better. I heard they

(10:16):
used to give a suitcase out like I did. Chloe
Kardashian Show cocktails with Chloe. I got a suitcase full
of Kardashian droppings, which was all the hair product, all
the stuff that they didn't want. You know that they
get shoved at them all the time, so I had sunglasses.
It was I've done Christmas shopping for every woman in
my life. I just gave out product. But I heard

(10:36):
on RuPaul's drag basically used to give out all this stuff,
and ever since the pandemic, you get a robe and snacks,
which is what I've gotten. I'm not I'm not being ungrateful,
but I would like them to bring back the pre
pandemic goody bag for the next time I'm on. My
favorite part of the chocolate bar was when they would
unwrap the chocolate and would go I love sound effects.

(10:59):
I lived with them. Um. They also have that terrible
snatch game where they were all de Sky was the
only one who won, and then they were all lambasted
for doing such a terrible job. I ever seen anything
like that in snatch. He had any jokes prepared, which
is why all starts seven was amazing. They were all amazing.

(11:20):
You had to have jokes prepared. I mean, that's like
you on stage, you have your material, but you're ready
to kind of work with the audience as well. Right,
do you do a lot of crowd work at the end?
I like to meet people, you know, at the end
of my ax, I really do. Do you know Yamanika
this comment? Yeah, she can do chur crowd work. She

(11:42):
can do a whole show just like ragging on people
in the audience. She's so funny. If I'm doing crowd work,
things are going badly and it's like, Okay, you're not
finding anything. I'm doing funny. I'm gonna go out and
talk to you. And so they have that terrible snatch
game and then they all had to They had a
lip sync La la peru'sa right after that to see
who was gonna stay. Oh my gosh, so exciting. But

(12:05):
do you know what, through it all, Alec RuPaul was
still a great host, which is why if you're an
Emmy voter, be sure to give RuPaul and our queens
their flowers. They're making history, they're giving you fashion, they're
giving you comedy, they're giving you heartfelt stories. I mean,
this is a well rounded show. I don't work for

(12:26):
shows that don't have meaning. Behind it, right, Okay, unless
the money is there, unless there's unless I'm getting out
hundred thousand dollars per episode. Uh okay, don't go anywhere,
because when we come back from this break, she's going
to deposit some more knowledge on us. All right, Monday

(12:48):
Exchange is here. Wait, don't go away. We're back and
we are very excited to be joined on the program
today by the runner up of All Star seven, one
of the original twitters of All Stars four. She's here

(13:09):
to tell us her favorite moments and experiences of the season.
Please welcome to our fine program, Monee Exchange. Hello, Hello, Hello,
I don't know Having me squirrel friend. Absolutely, Monai changes
everything I say. Waiting to talk to you, she has

(13:30):
a million questions I have been waiting money. First of all,
congratulations All Star season seven. You clearly rocked it. What
was going through your mind in this finale though, because
this was something like no other yeah, yeah, you know.
Going into finale, I was like, oh, girl, I this
is what I do, Like, this is what I think.

(13:51):
This is what RuPaul saw in that audition tape six
years ago. I was like, Oh, I need a bitch
on my show, Like I am a great performer. I
have performing as like my thing. I loved thing that,
so I was excited to go into these lips sings
and really give all the name name name I was.
I was really I wanted to come and do it.
So I was very excited going into the going into

(14:11):
the lipsing smacked up in the ground. You were amazing.
I mean really kind of like you added another dimension
to your uh dimensionality as it were, as a performer.
When you sang opera. Nobody saw that coming and nobody
in my estimation, it was kind of like the secret Garden,
you know where they opened up that door. Also there's

(14:33):
a whole other room, a whole other place. How did
it feel to do that? It was amazing. Let's say
something I said that was acquired College Princeton, New Jersey
for four years. It's when a lot of money on
this degree and it wasn't and even then it wasn't
even my first choice. I was gonna say something from
my from my upcoming R and B album, And then
literally the episode before, it's like two days before, I

(14:54):
was like, you know what, suck it, this is my
last time because this is I'm never going back on
dragons again, I three times more than the girl I
am saying never. I am Brandy. I am never saying never.
I say never. I was like, you know, I'm done.
I'm not I'm saying. I was like, you know what,
let me just do some classical music. I've told people

(15:14):
this for so long. Let's just do it. And I
sent the challenge departments with SUSY's they can find an
oppresstional arrangement of this song because spoiler, we don't have
a full archicture on staff of drivers. So but they
got the Aquastra recording and then I did a tech
with it and I was like, yeah, let's do it.
So it worked out. It was excellent. You know, I

(15:36):
know my favorite moments of you of this season, but
what are your favorite moments from this season? Yeah? I
have to say, honestly, this final lips sync, like this
final lip sync before this Brandy along was was my
favorite lip sync. This Swiss Swish lip sync has surpassed
from me because I just loved everything that I thought
about bringing to it. I did that little lipstick gag

(15:57):
at the topic. We didn't really get to see, but
I had right before we walked on set. I was
like walking from the workrooms to the main stage, and
I was like, I should like I should like get
a lipstick and do like do like like I'm standing
her home and then so I like grabbed one of
the at a soft heel lip six, and I was like,
I was like, do you guys have any white nail
poxas I knew I couldn't get white at white out
because because the bend of the crown they next, you
cannot find white out within a thousand miles from from

(16:20):
the driver set. So I was like, um, I want
to touch your my someone with some white nail polish.
Then they got it for me. So I like scribble
jams the name on the lipstick and then I presented
it at the top of the lipstick and I pulled
it out and put my lipstick with on and I
put it off and it was I love that I
did that. I love that money moment and you know
I love that moment was like straight up fire like

(16:41):
it was like you went into a video. And then
at the end, you know, my drag really did start
with ballroom, seeing like I started speaking to Kicky functions
and ball not thirty fourteen at the game and health
crisis on Seventh Avenue. So that's why I like really
discovered like what the drag was in that last of
the voguing at walk Ball A moment at the end,

(17:01):
I was like, I felt like I was kind of
bringing my drag back to what it was at the beginning,
which is how I discovered it work at this moment.
So I was really excited about doing all that on
stage and and you do it, but seeing it again
and in technical and seeing it, I was like, I
really fucking body, this thing workbout a yeah, so great.
We gotta talk a little bit about your Twitter alliance.

(17:23):
Was that pre planned? Was that something you guys planned
before going into this? Um? I wouldn't it was pre
planned because they tried to keep it secret. But girl,
we knew each other who was going to be there.
We were all techning, so I was like, oh, girl,
what time you You You know what I mean? So we knew,
But I didn't go in thinking I was going to
start in a line to Trinity. I think that Trinity
it just like organically happened at Trinity was the only
one willing to play in the game with me, and

(17:44):
Bitch ended up working out for her because of our alliance.
That's why I choose Trinity over Jada so and also
Trinity had four wins to Jada's too, So it worked
my alliance and it also worked fairly too because it
just made sense my day. Everything that you did this
whole seat. I hope you are as proud as we
are proud of I know that RuPaul got emotional. You

(18:07):
got emotional. That whole feeling of emotion and the thought
that you put in from your costumes and everything. What
was your favorite costume from this seat? Favorite costume? Um?
I have a few. One I give my top three,
my top looks for the week. Um, my favorite will
be in a week two Pleni principle. I really loved

(18:28):
that Relia with the bow and the a with apps.
I want every gown on the runway now to have abs,
and you know I can't get them realized. I was
like I should was my favor. I really enjoyed my
Dolly one because my assistant when we got the prompt

(18:48):
for that, we wanted to We knew we wanted to
do the coota many colors, but they don't make patchwork
fabric like that, and if they do, it's like it's
like it's like those old American eagle for me to
short fabric, and we were not doing so, so we're
like charging around pet like, oh my mom can quilt.
So Patty's mom is late mom Rescipece Lamanda. She passed
away this past man. She quoted that she quoted each

(19:09):
patch of by hand for over forty hours, and she
bolted all of that together by hand. So it was
that it really is really dear to my heart. And
I really also enjoyed my three and one. Look, I
really enjoyed that one because you know, Drag Drag at
its four will always be political. It was always a
political statement saying patriarchy and then so I will always

(19:30):
use my chance to be political, whether it's for women,
where people black, but whatever is them, I will always
in the end periods, I really enjoyed that. That was
so beautiful. The journey you took from Harriet Tubman to
We Still Fight unbelievable, so effective. But what I also
loved how everybody brought their culture and there was so
much great black hair this season, and I'm thinking especially

(19:51):
your hair in the Queen's Challenge, the Crowning Challenge, where
you were the queen from Queen's You were the Brooklyn Queen.
That was amazing? Who made that? Who came up with that?
Big shout out to Edwards to the hand I have
to tell you from season ten to now, the accessibility
of black wig designers and black food makers. Who can
who can attain these hairstyles that I that I wish

(20:13):
I could have had before, but that did not have
the accident know where to find a full last wig,
so I can't have box braids or whatever it is.
So I went back on All the Stars. I was like,
I want to be my whole blackly black self and
that would that that was included in getting designers like
Edwards to their hands like Trillion Hair from New Orleans,
Edwards from Florida, to get them to make these beautiful
black hairstyles. And between myself, Shane, Jade and Evie, we

(20:36):
really had a weak girl. We had the whole Atlantic
Hair Show up in Network. It wasn't Atlanta Hair Show.
All you were missing was that guy voguing around you
with the scissors, you know, the one or the one
with that that's that's like a helicopter. This is is iconic
clip of the of the Atlantication, get the name and
there's the report with a helicopter in the air. Is

(21:00):
I wish I should have did that. I should have
did that? Goddamn you can always well they How did
you feel about the format this season with no eliminations,
the stars, the platinum Plunger? What was your feeling on that? Um?
You know, I say, And when we were all there recording,
we were like, girl, the fans are gonna hate this
and no one's going home. It's gonna be so boring.
But it comes to find out people the people really

(21:22):
enjoy the no one home because you got to see
everyone stuff. So that was really nice. And the plunger
was also fun twist on TV. It was definitely a
gold plunger, So the art department needs to get some
new glitter because it does not for the TV. But
the plantin was a nice little twiss, nice twist. Okay,

(21:43):
first of all, before you leave, you were so sexy
as Mike Tyson when you said you were going to
funk everybody in the ass. That was at best and
worst decision you made this season. When you watch when
you watch the season back, what was we were like, Okay,
I'm the ship and then Okay, my best decision, I

(22:07):
would say my best decision was to wear open until
choes this season. Let's say something in season ten officers
for by the end of the day, when I tell
you my feet were I mean not even I don't
know what y'all can't see, but I had my fingers
scrunched up in the most gnarly looking My feet would
be a mess those seasons and this season and every

(22:28):
chance I got, I would open til shoes and girl,
we could have done the show all night long. I
was ready to go. Really changed my life. Were open
till shoot this season? And my worst decision, Um, maybe
I would have So I had a multiple for three looks,
for the light up look, for the knitted look, and
for the veil look. I had like multiple options, and

(22:49):
I wish I would have done my other veil look,
which maybe I'll do a shoot with him posted on
my social media. But my friend Dominican Pature, he made
this like Jedi like veil thing, like something from as
far Wars. I was really I wish I would have
done that instead of the veil I did, but I
still enjoyed it. But I would have done that. Maybe
I would have that would have pushed me over to
win the dragons? Who know? So what is next for you? Monet?

(23:11):
Because you have done so well? And can I ask?
Have the fans been kind to you? Yes? You know
with with this FOT episode, they really have been kind.
There a lots of very nice thing going going out
there about me, people um pushing really lovely things. But
you know there's always gonna be trull who fucked you?

(23:31):
That's what I was really trying to get. She works
for Egaily. She wants to get to the meet who
sucked me? Uh yesterday? That's who I love it? What
is next to me? I'm currently here on set, dude,

(23:52):
so do a really fabulous thing for who that's coming
on on for Halloween. I'm very excited. I've been here
for two weeks. And then sibling Riberry or Bob and
I we have our Signal Library tour launching in September.
It's really fun where um stick something really to long sales.
You go to Bob Bob and money dot com. And
because of because singing opera for my talent show, I've

(24:12):
gotten some really great opportunities to do some fun, fun,
fun stuff in the classical world. And I'm very excited
when now death stuff to you, and you know, it's
always been a dreams, you know, to kind of do
something else that that none of the other girls are doing,
which is always likes we can make you a little market,
you can carve your little space. Um. So I'm really
excited to do that and to sing beautifully in drags

(24:35):
like up and drag. Ye Carnegie Hall Girl, Alex girl,
I claim it in the name of the Lord Jesus Oprah,
I claim it. Okay, yeah, Carnegie Hall. And I think
that you will come back for a season. If it's
just you and Bob, it's you. And if it's it's you,
ten episodes of you and Bob bassing for the death
like Hunger Game style, somebody will actually die at the

(24:59):
final episode. That's something that I would do that episode,
just Bob, let's do it about that. I would do that.
I would definitely do that. Thank you so much money
for your time and congratulations. We enjoyed you so much
and I hope you're proud of everything that you did
for this. I am and just yeah, yeah, I am
very big pens to go, Honnie. I have been watching

(25:20):
you since I was old enough that my mom will
let me stay up and watch comic you with her.
I'm really so thank you for having me. This is
really great. Oh absolutely, we wish you the best and
and safe travels. And if you listen back to any
of the podcast, we talk so much about you and
you're asked on how talented you are and in the representation,

(25:43):
we are so proud of her. Thank thank you so much,
thank you all, thank you all, love you, love you
so much. Ooops, I want to keep talking, but it's
type for a quick break. We'll be right back. Love her.

(26:05):
It's so great to talk to Money about her memorable
moments this season. And now it's time to talk about
a few more of our favorites, our favorite moments, Lonnie.
Let's start with how the queens brought their culture and
life experiences to the show. We've been talking about this
every week, all the black hair moments that were on
the show this week. First of all, I was excited
that half the cast was black because, as you know,

(26:27):
I've been bringing up historical facts about drag in America
and how it was started by a by a former
slave in Washington, d c. Who popularized the drag balls
in d C. And then they went to New York
and then the Nies that blew up. Everybody wanted to
know about drag. So the black drag queens what they
did was bring their culture to the runway. And it's

(26:49):
important because it's so colorful anyway. I mean, even when
you look at someone like what Monet had on, which
she had the track suit, nobody would have thought a
track suit could be glamor, but mone made it glamorous.
And when you add the track suit, which hers was
very colorful. It was white with pink and blue. And
then you add the hair to the black hair, which

(27:11):
is a crown. It was a crown of braids with
a tiara knit into the crown. She had these two
kind of like knit knit braids coming down the side.
It was like royalty from Brooklyn, Brooklyn Royalty. That's that's it, Alec,
you know. And then't you had Shaye Kole with her
beautiful I mean, this was and I felt like it

(27:33):
was a Wakonda. Yes, royalty, Yeah, definitely. Yeah. It was
a column of braids that led up to this almost
like disc on top and Queen effort Queen Effortini kind
of like Angela Bassett as the Queen of Waconda in
the Black Panther series with this beautiful floral look. Oprah

(27:54):
used to talk a lot about on her show about
black hair, and she goes, what it was about black
hair that's remarkable is this kind of intricate braiding is
something that was brought over from Africa and it was
a piece of culture that the slaves were able to
hold onto, do you know what I mean, and passed
from generation to generation to What a lot of people

(28:15):
don't realize too, is that, you know, our hair used
to be braided. They would do all kind of things
when they braided the hair. They would put notes in it,
and they would put all kind of like you know, signals,
and they would braid it a certain way so that
it would actually present messages. So our hair has always
been a part of our history. And the thing about
culture is that we can represents everyone's culture, which is

(28:38):
why I'm glad Raja represented her culture so well. You know,
her dance with the Balinese dance absolutely beautiful. She brought
her culture to the runway. There are a lot of
people who may not have seen the dance in the
traditional costume that Rajah war, which was like a beautiful
sorry with this gorgeous golden crown. And also to remind

(28:59):
people all that Raga was the very first and only
Asian American winner of drag Race. But back to the
black hair really important. I adopted a black son, and
that's where I had to go to black hair care
school because I made the mistake of taking my son
on public transit one time and he had a busted
fro and ashy needs and if looks could kill Lonnie Love,

(29:25):
the black people on this subway looked at me like
I had just murdered somebody, and they go like, see
that's what we don't like them. Adopted. Yeah, yeah, to
the point where I asked a complete stranger, just give
me some lotion, just anything, you have some lotion, I'll
take care of this. And so I never made that
mistake again. He always went out with perfect hair. I
have a lot of friends that have adopted I and

(29:47):
I will help them with the hair. And I always
make sure one of the gifts that I give them
for the baby showers or for I give an adoption
gift is lotion. It it's a black child. Lotion is
so important. Cocoa butter, and then I realized, also, the
thing about black hair is the time it takes to
do black hair. Also, Drag Queens played a part in

(30:10):
Like He was watched by Drag Queens' Angela. Before she
did drag Race used to look after my son. That's
how we became friends because we were friends in town.
So is the time that it takes. That is part
of the black culture. The time you spend together on
the hair is ours. So that's gossip, that's family time,
that's bonding time. We would just use that time to

(30:31):
watch Star Wars movies and when when my son had dreads,
it would take three Star Wars movies. That was an
entire day. But that's all about representations. But not only
did we represent with the hair, but this season of
All Stars represented people that had health challenges like Yeah,
av oddly suffers with alers Danlos syndrome, a disease that

(30:54):
causes hyper flexibility, which is why she can do all
that stuff due to a lack of collagen production. But
at some point it will start to impact her negatively.
She won't be able to walk in heels, she won't
be able to perform to the extent that she's performing
right now, so that made this time on Drag Race
really precious to her, as she told Rue, because she says,

(31:14):
it's gonna come a time where I won't be able
to do all of these things. But you know, anytime
somebody talks about something that they're going through, even if
it's as something as specific as this kind of syndrome,
there are people out there who are suffering from it
as well, you know, or you don't have me to
have to have it to empathize to, like, oh my gosh,
this is somebody who is just battling through it. So

(31:36):
props to ev inclusivity is what we do at Drag Race. Now,
let's talk about the amazing looks from this season. Alec,
you've been great this podcast going over the looks. What
were some of your favorite runway looks? Oh my gosh. Well,
you know, I've been a huge Shakla fan ever since

(31:57):
her last All Stars appearance, and when she says that
her drag at its purest form is a tribute to
all the black women in her life, I looked forward
to every single drag look. Even when she did this something,
it was like, I'm this is a tribute to my
aunt who loved gardening, and she came out that veil
and that beautiful pleaded outfit. There were other whimsical looks

(32:19):
this season that I absolutely loved. Jada Essence Hall was
a show stopper and all of her looks, like the
seasonal looks where she went through four different seasons and
I don't even know how she did it. She would
just like pull a button and I'll She'd go from
summer to spring to winter to fall. Absolutely amazing. I
loved Raja to this season. I mean, you could tell

(32:40):
just a model straight model looks right right, Rajah's kind
of She did so many futuristic looks. She did that
look on the runway for the final thing that she
looked like the alien queen. Just so beautiful and a
shout out to all the designers who worked on everything,
all the incredible designers that are out there. I can't

(33:02):
I don't know, I don't have their names in front
of me, but we should talk about them at some point.
Um Raja did a golden outfit that was absolutely beautiful,
that almost had a helmet or a face piece that
went over the front. She was so modern and ahead
of the game. She didn't even look like she was
from this planet anymore. It was like, I'm the queen
of Venus and this is what everybody's wearing. All the

(33:24):
runways were great too. I love the glow up runway
where I've never seen that Alec where it was dark
and then everyone had something an outfit that would glow.
That was magnificent to me. It's not enough for me
to be a man in the dress. The dress has
to now glow in the goddamn dark. I have to
like come up with that too. Um what was the

(33:48):
memorable ones for me? I mean really, it's like now
I had to be on fire literally. But because you
all are so talented, that's why that's the challenge that
you guys are talented, and you know what you ladies,
the queens just they come up. They came up. They
know which was your favorite. Jax Moonston came out as

(34:08):
a witch and it looked like a white bridal gown.
It looked like a full length ball gown with these
pointy shoulders. At the top. The lights went out and
from underneath the dress there were fiber optic flames. They
were orange and red flames that pulsated through the dress
up through the shoulders. She had a fan that produced

(34:29):
false flames at the top. I said they were like
the Pirate of the Garrabean flames at Disneyland, and she
literally looked like a witch on fire. Absolutely beautiful. Odd.
They came out as a mushroom, as a bio luminescent mushroom,
and that was beauty. I think that was the most
beautiful she looked. All that runway alone should be an

(34:51):
Emmy winner for the postseason. Just that ru Runway. I
can't get over it. Another thing I want to talk
about alec Is This season. We had fashion, we had representation,
but we also had comedy, and we love the comedy.
That double snatch game tops of all tops. Oh my god,

(35:12):
I don't think you know. We went from season fourteen
where everybody was eliminated, everybody to this snatch game where
everybody was amazing. You had money Exchange as Mike Tyson.
So funny. Going from Mike Tyson to Chanane Martin Lawrence says,

(35:34):
shanane A. You had Raja as Madam, and then that
puppet was so funny. To Diana Vreeland, the editor at Vogue,
and of course Jinx Monsoon who went from Natasha Leone
from Oranges the New Black to Judy Garland and just
kind of you know, there were four different comedy challenges here,

(35:55):
and we need to emphasize that Jinx won all of them.
She won four comedy challenges. I mean, even if you
didn't win, and let's say she didn't win, she would
still walk away with bragging rights that I won all
four comedy challenges. But her Judy Garland, you know it's
going well when she can take over the program completely,

(36:17):
look into the camera and say is this my camera,
start singing and then nobody stops her. Nobody, nobody, We're
all just like she just lost us into that. That's
something that will always be remembered. But also there was
the Fairytale Justice. Yes, she played a pig. She played
one of the three pigs, and hilarious as a pig

(36:40):
she made She was like a social media pig, little
pig who likes smoke, this like vocal fry, and she
was so funny. And I also liked the Vivian during
that because the Vivian is very, very performative. When I
was over in Ireland, I was watching television and I
saw the Vivian on one of their shows, one of

(37:01):
the comedy shows. I got so excited. Yea, yeah, I
saw her on one of the comedy show and she
was hilarious. Yeah. Well, the UK is a smaller country
than America, so the UK drag Race has launched all
the queens on that into the stratosphere. You know. It's
I've been watching all the drag Race franchises because I'm

(37:24):
like Nicky Blonsky in hair Spray. I watched the Corny
College Show and I don't do anything else I've been
I watched Spain, I watched France, I'm watching Australia right
now and the European ones. Spain, you could tell that
the culture is different in that the queens. It's more
of a very masculine culture in Spain. So what they're

(37:44):
doing is a little more dangerous. Is a little more
dangerous to be out, a little more dangerous to be
effeminate in a culture that really prizes kind of that
Latin machismo. So it's it's really exciting to watch Australian
drag a really dirty. They are filthy girls. They love
a dirty joke. It's all about pooh and boobs. And

(38:08):
bodily functions. They're hilarious and super technicolor. Jack, you remember
the movie Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, Like all the
drag queens are super colorful, and there's so Australia premiered
last night and there is a hot drag queen who
is from New Zealand. He's Maori and he looks like
the Rock if the Rock were a drag queen, like

(38:29):
really scaled down. His name is Queen Kong and he
is stunning k and on Instagram he's Queen Kong with
a k w E n kop because that's what we love.
It's just, you know, another reason that we should be
winning in means it's world Why she has started here

(38:50):
and then been able to take off worldwide and it's
still prominent, you know. So it's just it's just wonderful.
The other thing I wanted to bring out with the
comedy was the commencement speech. Commence It was really great,
yeah yeah, and they also had heart to it too.
They did have a lot of heart. They kind of
all brought up the comedy in doing a commencement speech.

(39:10):
The commencement speeches were so funny. James Moon soon came
out dressed as a witch and said, clearly I was
meant to speak in another commencement, but this will do.
That was really funny. Ragen did a totally spiritual commencement
speech that was very, very funny. Yeah, and Trinity was funny.
Trinity was hilarious, and all of them brought a lot
of heart to that challenge. And of course, you know,

(39:33):
no drag race would be complete without a roast, yeah,
where they all roasted each other and they were hilarious
and it ended up I love that. The roast turned
into NonStop jokes about Evadley's dick, and they left it
in I love it, and they left it in Do

(39:56):
you like a dirty joke? Do you like I love?
I love a good I think funny, is funny, my favorite,
This is my favorite dirty joke. If you don't think
this is funny, we can't be friends. It's not really clever,
it's just dirty. So there's these two women at a
supermarket and one of them points to a pile of
potatoes and says, those potatoes remind me of my husband's balls,
And the other woman says, are your husband's balls that big?

(40:18):
She goes, no, they're that filthy, it's just gross son.
Oh goodness, Well, James didn't tell a potato ball joke,
but she did win for different comedy challenges, which is

(40:42):
the reason why she's the Queen of All Queens winners
for this year. Absolutely. All right, when we come back,
we have something very very special that we're going to
talk about, because we know this is the end of
All Stars, but it's the beginning of something now, something new.
We'll be right back. And we're back, okay, now that

(41:12):
All Starts is over, we're gonna be covering in all
new Rue Paul's Drag Race franchise. We're going to be
talking about Secret Celebrity Drag Race. I cannot believe they
brought it back. I know, I don't know what the
format is gonna be, So what's the secret? Okay, so
I don't I haven't seen anything yet, but from what

(41:34):
I've seen from the promos, it's gonna be like your
celebrity thing with you know, the drag and celebrity coaching
celebrities in their drag performances. But it's gonna be like
the masked singer. We're not gonna know who the celebrity is.
Until they're eliminated. There's gonna so there's gonna be like
a big major reveal after all the performances, and you're

(41:59):
not gonna know that it's Brad Pitt or are Brian
Tyree until the end of the program. That is interesting
because when I did Secret Celebrity drag Race, well it
was just it wasn't secret, it was just celebrity drag
race we did. I was with Vanessa Williams, Vanessa Williams
and Tammy Roman and it was we just did like

(42:21):
a day or two days of drag race, but we
were known. So this is a total different format. What
are they gonna do? Are they I'm so curious about this, like,
how are they How are they going to hide their
faces or you know, thinking to recognize them. We're going
to recognize them right away. I'm gonna say that's Meryl Streep.

(42:41):
I've seen her. You can't hide it, even if you
block out her eyebrows. I know that that's the Vice
President Kamala Harris. Well, you know what I think. I
think that you know, I never did drag before. So
whoever is doing it, it's going to be an experience
hands for them, not only did you drag love You

(43:03):
wore RuPaul's wig? Yes, I did. Were you That's like,
you know, you wore the crown, you wore a wig
that has touched RuPaul. I felt golden. I felt like
a queen. And I know anyone that steps in drag
and this is the thing. If you're gonna do drag
for the first time and you're able to do it

(43:25):
with Rue Paul's team, Oh my god, honey, it's all
the way live seriously, because it's no stops. They will
They're gonna custom make every outfit. They're gonna make sure
that the hair matches the actual outfit. So you showed
up on the outfit was there for you already. I
actually helped design the outfit with the wonderful team at

(43:47):
Rue Paul. You know, so they I mean, oh if
I can't remember his name because he actually stitched out.
He had some sketches, so it was made by hand. Like,
did you get to keep the dress? No, I keep it.
I did keep um. I did keep the track suit
because they handmade a sequence track suit from me, and

(44:07):
then I had like and I did a wig snatch
and then we did the final runway look, which was
this long sequence pink. They put padded hips on me
and then they cinched in my waist. Um, I was
wearing a corset. And when I said that was the
funniest thing you remember when going with the wind, when

(44:29):
on the strings of the corset you had a baby? No, no,
never ever that was me. I'm like, oh, I was
never a twenty eight to begin with. You have to
really inhale, Like, yes, you have to inhale. It's tight,
but the look once you get the look. And he

(44:50):
even handmade a coat with fur trim on it. So
if you're gonna do drag, do it with Rue Paul
and the drag race crew because they pull out all
the stops. They give you everything that you want. So
I'm excited about this season. I'm excited to see who
um and you discover yourself. I mean, I don't know

(45:10):
for you, but for me. We live in a society
now in this country that's a little more open. But
even to do it, you still have to pull something
out of yourself. So that's what you want to see.
You want to see the fashions that these celebrities are
gonna have. You want to see their persona. You want
to hear about their drag name. Um, but you want
to see a lot of stuff, and like you said,
what comes up like for me? And drag was like,

(45:34):
I've always been the goofy kid. I've always been the
class clown. I've never been the thirst trap. I've never
been sexy. I've never been kind of like the boy
who falls into that category. But when I was dragged
and dragged people were like, oh my god, you're really
attractive and I was not using I was like, okay, well,
usually I'm used to doing the funny dialogue that I

(45:55):
can do the leading dialogue. That it's a whole different way,
you know. So we are so excited for Secret Celebrity
Drag Race and premieres Friday, August twelve on v H one,
and we love the H one and our recaps start.
We're gonna recapping the show and that's gonna start Monday,
August fifteen. Listen. If you're tuning in for the first time, welcome.

(46:18):
If you're a turning listener, thank you so much. Tell
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(46:40):
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