Would You Date A Bus Driver? (Ft. Eboni K Williams)

Eboni K Williams joins Tezlyn Figaro to discuss Eboni K. Williams's viral clip with Iyanla Vanzant about her unwillingness to date a bus driver and why.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Don't want to ask you a question. Real good, let's
just keep it real straight shout with Chase. I'm gonna
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(00:30):
me start this a proper way. Thank you so much
for joining the Straight Shot No Chaser podcast on the
Black Effect Podcast Network. I am your host, Teslin figure Row,
and we are doing something a little bit different today.
Many of you may have saw the viral clip that

(00:51):
went several people posted it to their page. Uh, several
people were talking about it over the weekend, and it
was a clip from the Grillo News with Ebanie K. Williams,
who has a show on the Grill, and she interviewed
Ms Venzette a Yalla and they had a conversation about

(01:13):
dating and those of you you can go back and
you know, watch the full video if you want to.
You know, hear the conversation from beginning to end. But
there was one particular part in the video that went viral,
and the question was asked, would you date a bus driver?

(01:38):
So I am going to play the clip and Ebony K.
Williams will be joining us to give her perspective on
the interview. Why she said what she said, what she
meant wasn't taken out of context. All of the questions
that I saw, you got, saw you guys asking and commenting.

(01:59):
I think on my page alone it was about nine
hundred comments. I know she had probably now close to
fifteen hundred comments. I saw Terse showing it. I saw
I know he reposted it. Several other people reposted it.
So she wanted to, you know, have this opportunity to
be able to discuss it. And I am certainly honored

(02:22):
that she decided to have this conversation with me, because
I know it is important for folks to be able
to talk to, you know, individuals in the space that
they trust, and so I am glad that she chose
to do so. So just bear with us as we
are getting prepared for her to come in the live

(02:44):
and join us. Palin in the room tag somebody who
was talking about this clip asked them to join us,
And I'm going to play it for you here. Now
put a three if you can hear me, it looks
like I got a little bit of a delay, and
I want to make sure not on my YouTube, on
my Instagram, put a three of you can hear me,
just so I can make sure that we are locked

(03:06):
and loaded and ready to go. Great. Thank you so much.
So let me play the clip so that when she
comes in we'll be ready to have the conversation.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
That you said that you cannot teach a man or
tell a man how to be a man.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
So I will not ask.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
You to indict men in this question, but I do
want you to speak, Ayama to.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
How women need to.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I don't know, position ourselves so that we can be
in our divinity, so we can have our crowns right,
how we can create and not build. When some of
us quite frankly, feel that the men that are available
to us, and I'm talking about across the color spectrum,
across the age spectrum, trust me, I've done them all,
they are not positioned to protect nor provide because of

(03:55):
some of the statistics we just talked about. They're not
earning the inculms, they're not having the resources, and some
of them are not even showing up in the leadership.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Would you date a bus driver, you would if he
owns the bus, if he owns it.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
If he owns the bus, yes, that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
That's a problem because the standards and requisites And I'm
not talking about him laying on his sofa playing video
games all day.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
But the standards and the criteria that we use to
measure men is off for who we are as wamen
and who they are in the society. I would date
a bus driver if he was if he loved driving
the bus, if he was a man of integrity, if
he was good to his mama, if he treated me well,

(04:47):
I would date.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
A bus Okay, folks, So there you have it. Ebanie
will be Ebanie K Williams. She just text, she said
she'll be just a few moments. I know, she literally
just got off the plane and so she's going to
have the conversation directly, so you can hear from her
on you know why she said what she said, who

(05:08):
she was talking about. But I do want to point
this out because one of the things that I keep
seeing people I don't know if it's people are just
missing it or if it's going over their head or what.
But she clearly asked her, would you daday bus driver,
meaning speaking to her. And I think why, I know,

(05:29):
because the conversation was had in front of the masses,
I can certainly understand why people believe that she was,
I guess speaking for the collective, but I heard it
very clear as her own position on what she would

(05:50):
do and what would work for her. And I'm looking
at comments now with folks saying, hey, you know, they
make good money and you're good to go. And I guess, again,
who who I guess are you directing that to? Because
I heard it as her giving her a position on
who she would date. And that's the only thing that

(06:10):
I've been just saying over and over, you know, like
I don't, her preference is in my preference, and and
vice vera, and vice versa, vice versa. We have different preferences,
and that's okay. And so I think a lot of
folks felt attacked, a lot of folks felt that they were,
you know, speaking to them in some type of way.

(06:34):
A lot of folks, you know, just I don't know
if they heard something different or what. But we're going
to have her here to have the conversation, so just
bear with us a second. I know she literally just
got off the plane, but she said she'll be joining
in about five minutes and she's going to have the
conversation directly with you, and I just I don't know.

(07:00):
It seemed to be all over the place. And since
I know her personally and I've heard her explain herself
multiple multiple times, I can understand why some people, you know,
see a twenty second clip and then you know, go on.
And so I'm just waiting on her to come in,
and then I'll just be looking at some of your
comments you heard. Let me see this guy saying, also

(07:21):
Alanna answer her question and use Ebany as a prime
example of the problem. Well, but she didn't ask a
y'alla the question. A y'alla asked her would you date
a bus driver? And she said that they owned the bus,
and then a y'alla proceeded to say, that's the problem. So,
just being honest, I from me looking at it, A

(07:43):
y'alla or anybody else can't tell me what I want
to do. So I don't know, Like I said, Evandy's
gonna explain, you know, what the premises is, how they
got to that place, Where did it come from? You know?
Why would she say that was a problem. You know,
what was she looking for and that answer she's going

(08:05):
to be able to explain that way. You guys don't
have to make it up as you go, because you've
been pretty much making it up as you go in
the comments. Well, many women have the standards of ABNUE,
but that's their that's their standard. In response to Abney's questions,
context everything, Yes, she responded everything, she didn't. But again

(08:25):
she asked her what she did. Let's just start right there.
Would you date a bus driver if you asked me
what I did a bus driver? And she says no,
that was her answer. I don't. I guess I'm trying
to figure out, like, what is that's her position, that's
my position. It's kind of like in politics, how people
are trying to make people be pro choice or pro life,

(08:47):
or LGBT or now LGBT. I'm I'm just trying to
figure out, do we have an understanding that people have
different preferences? Put a five in the chat if you
understand that people have different preferences. Yeah, uh, y'alla definitely

(09:12):
might have been using ebony as a proxy for women
in general, no doubt. I agree. I definitely agree to that.
But I'm just looking at it. I'm looking at it
exactly what it was. She asked her a question, and
Evane can't speak for all women, so she could only
answer a question for her. But no worries. She's gonna
be here and she'll be a few more minutes and

(09:39):
she can join and tell you exactly what she meant.
And I'm just gonna get some wine. Anybody got some
wine or anything? Y'all want to get some wine or
what y'all get y'all some wine because this is gonna
be a good one. Yeah, that I agree. People's feelings
are hurt because they feel excluded, and that's just you know,

(10:03):
that's not everybody, but there is. I saw some people
under my page say, wow, I had a crush on
Ebony until now, and I find that interesting because you
had a crush. I guess I'm a stranger, and now
do you feel excluded? Did you think you had a shot? Like,
what's what? I guess. There's a lot. It's a lot
to unpack here, So get some wine. Y'all get some wine.

(10:24):
Y'all get some wine. We're gonna get it in in
just a few minutes, she said, three minutes. She's getting upstairs.
One person said it was an ambush question. Really not really,
because Abney's actually made this pretty clear on several different platforms.
People may not be familiar with Abony, but she's talked

(10:45):
about this several times. She's very affirmed in her answer,
and you'll get you'll get a chance to see prefaces
can be wrong to a child molested. For first children,
I think that's a stretch. I think breaking the law
is a stretch. If I like tall men, that's that's
not illegal. Let's not let's not reach here. That's ridiculous.
Let's make sure that we're having a you know, a

(11:09):
conversation that makes sense that let's not talk about show mos.
I mean, that's ridiculous. I like tall men, and so
if I like tall men, I'm not anti short men.
I just sexually and physically attracted to tall men. Let's
not talk about child molesters. That Come on, now, let's
let's let's come on, y'all. Can we agree some prefaces

(11:31):
keep people single? Yes, we can, and if they stay single,
let them stay single. Can we also agree that it
shouldn't matter to you if I stay single for the
rest of my life, Like, why does it I'm trying
to figure out why is everybody so invested. That's that's
that's my thing. So if they stay single, and if
she stays in a box, and if all of those
things happen, isn't that on her? She would have to

(11:55):
she would have to suffer the consequences of those outcomes. Yes,
if her preferences are so ridiculous, wouldn't she She's the
only one that has to suffer the consequences of that choice. Correct.

(12:17):
I find it so interesting. It's just so interesting to me,
just like I find it really interesting that married people
in the comments are usually the one know whether they're
lying or not. But it's usually married people that are saying,
you gonna be miserable, You're gonna be by yourself, and
you're gonna be I find it interesting you don't hear
single people saying, Hey, married people, you're miserable. All the
married people I know on antidepressds and going to therapy

(12:40):
and studies say that married people are more unhappy than
single people, And I don't ever it sounds it seems
like I don't see the argument with the single people
debating with the married people, But the married people are
always telling single people that they're gonna be single forever.
And I would think that since you already got married
and found the love of your life, why does it
bother you. I understand you can't complain if you don't

(13:04):
have options. You're gonna hear Ebony talk very clear about
her position with options. She understands that her options are limited.
She's not delusional. Let off. But you guys will see
that's exactly it, mister Costa, that's exactly it. That's exactly it.
Let's just call it what it is. Give short kings

(13:30):
a chance. I've always liked tall men. Matter of fact,
one of the I think one time because they've never
asked me that on a breakfast club for whatever reason,
but that I know, they've asked two of my girlfriends,
Ebony and Tamika, and they asked, does size matter? And
Ebony says, size don't matter? But guess what size matters

(13:51):
to me? So everybody got a different preference. So Ebanie
k Williams is here, letting me bring her on up.
I've been getting them ready for you.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
My good sister Tesla and.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Fit Yes, Emony King Williams in the building.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
This conversation matters and to that point, Tesla, you misquoted me.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I never said what size does not matter? Let me
let me clear it up, let me clear up. Good.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
What I said was, I'm right, I'm right here. What
you says already, you already know was the only size
that matters to me is too small. So I'm not
a size queen. I am not, but I know you well,
I am size queen.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I am not a size queen. However, there is a
such thing as too small, and once it's too small,
there's not a lot we can do it. That's what
I I don't want no information. I don't want huge
it in my inbox test. Okay, right, but that was good.
I'm sorry, right on time? Start so, I you know,

(15:18):
I played the clip for everybody just to get some
contexts so that they could hear. For those that did
watch the clip, didn't watch the clip, I played it.
I got them ready. I said that you were coming
to get a conversation.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't want we don't want to say heavily taste.
We just wanted to say what we know what?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Let's start with the huge news test.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You know, you know I got a book out called
bet On black the good news about.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Y'all see it right on the shelf.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, here's that's the let's sart with the good news,
the good news test and it's people are talking about
a very important dynamic between black women and black men,
and I want to start by framing it this way.
I just got back, as you know, from a trip
to India, a life changing journey to Mumbai and Optiba
in India, and then the group that I went with

(16:07):
TES one of the things they challenged us on was
to identify communities that we belonged to back home, that
are suffering from rupture, that are in perspecut of repair.
And the top of my list was because I love
us as black folks so much, Tess, and you know this,
we do this work.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
We talk about this both professionally and personally as sisters.
I really really really want to help contribute to the
repair of the relationship between black men and black women.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
So I think that is some real.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Good framework for why the conversation that we're gonna have,
which is a continuation, I think a kind of further
breaking down of the conversation I had with the good doctor.
I saw a Ya Labanza and I just want to
say this and then I'm gonna toss it to you.
It's a shame that people watch so much cable news
tests that when they see two black women in quote
boxes as we call them on TV, they presume debate,

(16:59):
They fom adversariess what the reality is. As you know,
because you watched the whole, the entirety of the conversation
with me and doctor Bonzaran.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
It wasn't no checking me or me checking her or challenger.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
It was two educated.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Black women who loved black people having a dialogue, having
change of position and ideas.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
About what we value in love and relationships. It's all yours. Yeah,
I'm glad you said that, because that's exactly what I
said in the comments early on when I posted it,
that this was a conversation between two women and two

(17:42):
successful women, and also two women that two different generations.
You know, Ms. Vonzan is seventy sixty nine years old,
I believe, and so there is also a generational conversation
as well that you know we have all the time
on and you know, what are our elders, how our

(18:03):
elders perceive things versus us? And what wisdom do we
take from them, and then what how do we want
to move in the world and what do we leave
behind and all of that. And I saw a conversation.
But because I know you personally and I know we've
had this conversation, and I know also know that you
have explained this multiple multiple times in public platforms, I

(18:24):
know that my perception was different from what they saw
in a twenty second or thirty second clip. And I
also realized that you explained this like in great detail
on the Breakfast Club, and it did not get that
type of response because people got to see a contact
compaginning to.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
Me, were you able to anew on the plane? Did
you get to see the full come go with me
and doctor Bouzard?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, the end, and then I had to get off
towards the end. Yeah. So I let me first start
with this question. It was titled the Straightening of Your Crown,
and I want to explain that to the people that
did not see it. What does that? What is straightening
of the Crown? Why did you choose that particular title,

(19:10):
why did you bring her in to have the conversation,
and what does it mean? Just at least on that
part on you know, how do we straighten our crowns,
you know, as we come from the world of child
acting and modeling.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Uh, you know, I love a good crown, so I'm
always going to I'm always going to use the good
play on the words and all the crown is. As
we know, y'all gonna take it too serious. It is
simply a symbol of femininity. So let's start with that.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
That is.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
That is because what we're having a conversation around really
was not even about men. It's really not even about men.
It got to that perception, but it was not about men.
It was about women and our relationship with our quote
masculine energy and our feminine energy. And this full conversation
came about testing, as you know, because I picked up
the phone and called you that night after Ayaga went

(19:59):
on our Breakfast Club Friends show the Breakfast Club and
had a dynamic conversation with Charlemagne.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
And DJ Mby, and I forgot who the guest host
was that day.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
But anyways, uh, and the statement that a lot of
women are walking around today as men in skirts, and
her pretis was that black young black women are black
women period, are walking around holding a masculine posture, masculine energy.
They are walking around with an attitude of building and

(20:34):
doing and accomplishing versus receiving, being quiet and sitting, in
which she defines as the divine power of femininity.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
And I found it intriguing. You know, I ain't gonna
hold your tests.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I was.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I was a little triggered, a little hit, a little
curious to learn more about how those.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Dynamics apply today.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
That's like what you said generationally, because my position was,
I don't think I've never said it. I don't think
a Yamla is even wrong. It didn't even start from
that premise I actually think is right. And when you
watch the full conversation I have with a yam on
my show Degrill, which is at six o'clock kick the
local listings every.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Day, I saw it from that framework.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
I thought it tests them from a curiosity standpoint of
where I agree with you that as a black woman
in America, I am showing up with probably more masculine
energy than not because I am showing up to both
provide and PreTect.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
But I feel I'm doing so because of a of
a requirement to do so, because of an absence of
other efforts to do so. Essentially, right, and that's not
blaming anybody, that's just.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Saying what it is.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
And so therefore I will feedback from my soul war,
feedback from my fellow attorney, feedback from an elder in
the culture, UH, so that we can open up a
dialogue today in twenty twenty three about black men, black women,
feminine energy and basket and energy.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's all it was. M hm hm. And so what
I want to get because most people saw just the
part of the clip and I want to cut that
part off where you were explaining, you know, I don't
want you to basically pay a phrase and attack men
or try to, you know, say anything about men. But

(22:27):
you asked the question how do we you know, how
do we work it? Moving our energy? But the part
to me that I that I want to start with.
She then called and said, what did you day? A
bus driver? And I've been going back and forth with
people on this because it's like they heard the beginning
of it where you were talking about and this is
where people when we're on TV and we're talking in

(22:48):
the masses, we are talking, we understand that we're talking
to millions of people. We also understand and that's the
fine line between our opinion news and hard news and
you know, don't yeah, and those things being married. Now
you think I'm talking about oh bless you, that I'm
talking for all women and I'm speaking abroad. So the
conversation to me shifted very clear once, because first it

(23:09):
was a concept, you know, a concept, and I did.
And then and then it was a pause where she said,
let me ask you something, would you date a bus driver?
And so for me it was a very clear would you?
And some so for somehow, I guess people see that

(23:30):
talking about all women or because right before that you
said some of us don't have you know, uh, the
men available, some meaning more than one. But when she
asked would you date a bus driver? I saw that,
And you tell me, I saw that as an individual
question on what you would do. I didn't see it
as telling other people what they need to do, or

(23:51):
what other people should or should not do, or what.
But I saw it as a direction. So asked. When
I was going back and forth with some folks, they said, well,
you know she was, she was generalizing it, And I said, well,
what was she supposed to do? Lie and say she
would date a bus drive? Did you wanted to tell
the truth or not. So explain when you heard the question,
would I would you date a bus driver? How explain?
How I know before I heard.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
I'm not gonna respond to a lot of these little
petty comments because I know people came to this conversation,
some with open hearted and open mighted thisse curiosity. Some
of y'all came with your feelings hurry, and I understand
the fragility of that. But a lot of people are
testing are already. Oh my god, she just says she
wants to provide and protect for a man. No, my darling, No,
my beloved, I want to provide and protect for myself.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
That's all. That was, okay, So to your.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Friend, that's right.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
A younger asked me would I date a bus driver?
And I believe was some people heard when I so
to be clear, I said no, I would not. Actually
what I said was because if he owns the bus
bus But then that was no, I would not date
a bus driver, but I would date a gentleman who
owned the bus.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
And I want to get to the details of that
in the sectord. But put a pin in it, because
here's on a breakdown test. When I said, if he
date if he owns the bus, but buck for him
owning the bus.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I would not date a bus dripper.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
That's what I'm said, right, Test let me, but let
me tell you what I know people heard based on
the comments. Some people heard some people heard a bus
drivering shit. Some people heard a bus driver is beneath me.
Other people heard a bus driver is broke. None of

(25:28):
that was said, though none of that was said. Test them,
because none of that is believed what I was saying,
And I'm gon back it up and let y'all know
some history, because people were very much in their feelings
about that.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
First of all, my mother drove a bus for many years.
My mother, Gloria J.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Williams, she drove a bus, and she drove a public
school bus for many years. And if you've read any
of my work Pretty Powerful or bet on Black, you
know this. And you know what my mother did with
that bus driving occupation is she saved her money and
then she's by daycare. She saved that money and she
ultimately bought a fleet, a fleet of eighteen Willis, becoming

(26:05):
one of the first black women to own a tractor
trailer company in Charlotte North Carolina. So part of this
is that I come from a legacy, Tesla figurea of entrepreneurship,
and you and I both know that we talk often
about the.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Importance of black ownership.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
So I want to be very clear that when I
retorted to Ayana would say if he owned the bus,
that was not an income statement. It was never about
an income. That was about a mentality, and that was
about a positioning of black ownership. And so sadly, tes
what I was said to see, I understanding critique and

(26:41):
as public figures, when we put ourselves out there for
commentary and perspective, it's gonna get pushed back.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I invited, you know, it's really the point of what
we do.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
However, what I was sad to see my sister was
not one person said, damn, that's a good idea to
own the bus, you know what I mean. Now, one
person of any ginger said, my goodness, well, you know
that's interesting that she proposed it that way, not rejecting
the bus driving as an occupation, but even the consideration, Teslin,

(27:13):
of what it would look like to step into ownership
of the bus. And now I'll say this and be
done with this question. You know, I just got back
from DC White House Correspondence Center in Pakistani man.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
And he owned the sprinter, and he took me to
the the Urban League panel that I moderated, and it
was a nice sprinted tess, you know, real nice, and
the insign new you can tell that she was new.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
And I said, this is a nice printer. I said,
who do you work for? That man said, oh, I
owned this. I said that's real nice because he said
I owned this, and I own a Cadillac GT whatever
the fuck. So he owns just two vehicles and he
drives them all day on his own accord.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
And I just was really impressed with this.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yes, Isaac i Ama Virgo, I was very His brother
Isaac Hayes the third shout out to Isaac, I was
very impressed testing by this man, this immigrants who has
come to the United States of America and for whatever reason,
knew off the bat that his best way to liberation,
to economic freedom, and probably to some level of cultural
positioning tesla was to not drive someone else's sprinter, but

(28:26):
to own one for himself.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Press it. Well, let's get to it, though, you know,
because this is important, you know, to say as well,
you know, I look at the comments that I've heard
this several times in the Commons section on what about

(28:51):
if he owns the bus one day? So let's deal
with the one day first of all, every woman, and
oh of course, because I want to make sure, including
my brothers, have different points that they're in their life,
different points what somebody did at twenty one and twenty
five when I got married, by the way to a mechanic.

(29:13):
At twenty three, we were building together. You were starting
out together. You were I remember, we didn't have any money.
We bought our first home. We didn't have any furniture.
We had, you know, one couch we could buy. We
did the air mattress thing until we built up. Two
years after that we got a house built from the ground.

(29:36):
We did all of that. But that was what I
was twenty three. So can we talk a little bit
about what does it mean? Because I know you've said
this many times, and I want people to put this
in different you know, different phases of life. Where you
are in life now, what somebody may be willing to
build with when you were building and starting out and

(29:57):
being young and starting with a man versus somebody thirty
five and older, or even forty. That is now saying, hey,
I want to be with somebody to build. What does
that look like when a woman or a man goes
into a situation and you've already built certain things. So,
for example, I may be a little bit more understanding

(30:19):
of and I'm just using this as example, a understanding
of somebody that has bad credit at twenty one, because
everybody does, or twenty three or whatever. But when you
start getting into certain seasons that are like thirty five
and older, let's just say that, and you have done
the work to have a house for yourself like you do,
like I do, rental properties, like we do, certain income,

(30:41):
what all of those things, and you've done the hard
work by yourself. Is it asking too much for a
man to at least meet or exceed what you've been
able to accomplish or should I be a builder Bear?
And I'm just speaking this, you know, in general, a
build of Bear factory and say that I And just

(31:04):
just for clarity before y'all get mad at me, I'm
d hey, baby, I do blue collarhood. But the point
is I'm just trying to give some context of this
that everybody starts at. Everybody looks at life differently in
different phases. So is it fair to say that you
have accomplished certain things and is it unfair for you
to look for the same things.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
And I'm saying I don't even have to be hypothetical
about it. Test, I'm gonna tell you that the actual
story when I first came out as a baby lawyer
twenty three years old practice at law Shaw on North Carolina,
my then husband, not.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Before, because you were married before. That's very important to people.
It's very important, is very important. I'm very important.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
I decided I didn't like it, it didn't work for me,
so I got a divorce. So that's the facts on
that anyway.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
And my recentil relationship, well, I'm decided that that wasn't
aligned with my goals. I ended that that engagement as well,
So that those are the facts on that for those
that are key scored of my relationship status. So back
to my first marriage, my first marriage, Teslaan, I was
a whole lawyer. I was making in Charlotte, North Carolina
in two thousand and eight, like one hundred and twenty

(32:14):
thousand dollars, which.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
At that time for that market. And we got to
talk about market too, We're gonna get to that that
was considered a very good living, right, Okay, that's what
I was bringing to the door. My then fiance became husband,
was bringing up and come to the door at the
time because he was a graduate student. He had just graduated,
and he was looking for his employment opportunity. So the

(32:38):
point of that, Teslain, is I have been the whole
breadwinner in a marriage. So I'm really not going to
entertain too much commentary about my lack of grace, my
lack of willingness as an individual black woman to participate
in building with someone. There's no med scenario to build
that when you are essentially an angel, and that when

(33:02):
you essentially are the one laying the foundational framework, or
the one with the credit, the one with the income,
the one with the first and last month's rent deposit.
I've done that, Tesla, and I had no problem doing it.
What I am saying is that at this point, at
thirty nine, almost forty, I'll be forty in September. And
I loved the comments, Tesla that both y'all, y'all really

(33:25):
can't decide what y'all want to do with me. Am
I a little girl who doesn't understand the ways of life,
or am I old bitch or.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
B that's older that nobody wants.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I want you all to figure that come back to
me anyway, anyway at almost forty years old, test as
you know, I have worked.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
We have worked, and not just myself.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
When I look to my left and I see women
like yourself, I look to my right, I see women
like yourself films, I see women like Natalie Robinson. I
see women like people that we all know and love,
who are who have not just started the talk, who
have established businesses and not just anybody's mind the pok LLC, no.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
No disrespect to that.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm talking about women who have as corporations see corporations
for you million. I know you're not gonna say yeah,
I mean because that's important, because because that's important and
I and I'm not saying that to this anybody, but
I do. I know there's these you know, these conversations.
He's coming six figures, six figgas, six figures. So I

(34:29):
just want to put on the table for you, because
I know you're not gonna put on the table with
and your humble self, But I'm just gonna go ahead
and say so Evan, he's a millionaire. Guys. So when
you're asking a millionaire to you know what, I understand, ladies,
when you're saying, hey, you know such and such makes
fifty thousand a year, when you're talking to people that have,
you know, advanced to millionaire status, the income is different

(34:50):
according to your your.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Status, like you have the particular level that you're doing it,
and all of that is, let's be clear, test all
of that's not burking bags and trips to uh, you know,
Costa Rica and Turks at my.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Tax liability alone.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
My tax liability tests as a business owner and as
a personal income recipient in the United States of America
is we're just coming out of April, y'all, know, the
tax season. So you're talking to me about a good
living being one hundred and thirty thousand, one hundred and
sixty thousand dollars a year, I personally, and that's.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Why when a Yama asked me, I had to answer
for myself. It can't touch my tax liability, y'all.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
So what do you want me to do with it
other than say it's an exceptional living for those that
live that lifestyle, and it is. I really want people test.
And one of the reasons I reached out to you
and let's be clever, yow to you to have this
dollargue this evening. I want people to stop internalizing lifestyle
choices and circum state that applied to the individuals that

(35:53):
you see in the public sphere, the public sphere, and
then you internalize it and you reduce it there and
you apply it to yourself and then you end up
feeling a way that it's unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It's called fortune telling.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
It's a cognitive eraror to those of you that are
in therapy and do the work, that's what that looks like.
You hear a public figure say something like in New
York City and google it. Don't take everan he's paying
for it, because every you know whatever, google it. The
average cost to live a comfortable lifestyle in New York City,
per the data, is three point fifty a year plus.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
That's the data.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
You know.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
I need y'all to look at that before you start
talking to me about what a good income is or
what a lot of money looks like.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
And again, it's not because of.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Of materialism and just wanting to walk into my closet,
which It is a nice closet.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Y'all saw it in the New York Times on act
like you didn't, y'all. It just had to put that out,
you know what I mean. It's a nice but it's
not talking about more Brugns than Lupton's. I'm now talking
about when I want to go into a French situation
and I need a partner to help meet me halfway.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Not all the way, Tesla, but just halfway.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
It takes oh one point five liquid and three point
net to get into consideration of the financial qualification.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
For the franchise expansion. That is the life that I live.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
That I live, not that you live, Not that Joe
Schmoe and most Black Americans, and frankly, let's get race
off the table for one second.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I'm gonna come back to race because it's very important.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
But even when you look at the average white income
in America, Tesla, they're not talking about what we're talking
about in this conversation. And I would say this because
some of y'all we don't really want to talk about
the real real When y'all start talking about how black
women need to stop being so.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
On our high ars, so extra so oh, I.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Love this one test unrealistic with our expectations and standards.
I want you to know that you're doing the work
of white supremacy. You need to know that you need.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
To know when you start talking to black people of
any gender, male, female or non binari.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Let's be very inclusive.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Here, and you start aggressively and because these comments have
been a little aggressive, when you start aggressively enforcing a
narrative that says that black women and black people need
to be extremely happy and complacent and welcoming of averageness,

(38:33):
which another word for average testl and is we know
is what mediocrity. That's the work of white supremacy, because
only white supremacy wins when black folks continue to have
a belief system.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
And again I'm on reference something. I just came back
from India. They have something over there and they Hindu
religion tis as you know, called karma. And it's not
exactly what we think of in Western perspective. In karma,
we think of what you do in the world comes
back to you. And that's a part of common But
let's say another part of army that we don't know
so much about out karma is also the position that
you are born into in this life is the position

(39:06):
that you need to stay in.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Indefinitely in this life.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
And your karma is that you were born in the
position subordinate or mediocre, or even lesser than what they
call even the undesirables. So now we're talking cast system.
And the reason you're born into that position in life,
which is not wealthy or elite, is because of something
you did bad in a previous life. And so thus
your karma requires you to sit complicitly and quote happily

(39:35):
in your subordinate, mediocre, average position in this lifetime. And
if you do real good and you're real happy about
that life, maybe in your next life you'll live a
better life.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's karma.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
So I fink did very interesting tesla, and that that
white supremacy has done a very very good job of
selling Black Americans, especially those of us that are the
descendants of enslaved Africans, property on this plan of African bodies,
of saying you negroes need to accept that your lot

(40:07):
in life is average and mediocre, and do good and
your obedience and your good stewards, and you do the
work to our benefit, and you send your whiteness, and
you drive that bus good, and you cook that food good,
and you let our children nurse off your teeth real good.
Maybe in the next life you'll be rewarded. And so

(40:32):
what I need y'all to understand is that I have
divorced myself personally because of y'all.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Like he she asked Evan K.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Williams, I've divorced myself from white comfort and white subordination.
And so therefore I will reject every time test one
a narrative that tries to convince me with a smile
and a nod that my lot in life is to
be averaged, my darling. No, my father God put something
above me. My God gave me spiritual gifts that we

(41:01):
talked about this.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
This is not.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
About me wanting to be rich and famous and look good,
to have the bag and the floss and the fucking
drip and whatever the kids hung about.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
That's just that just comes with the fucking job that
we do this.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
But you know, and and we first connected on.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
This because of the work that we were doing specifically
in the in the Lions den.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Over at Fox News.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Not anybody can do what we do, Tesla, not a
black person not every black person, not every person period
has the still set, the intelligence, the temperament, the verbiage,
the physical presence to occupy space and work on behalf
of black liberation and these terranes. And if it just
so happened to come with six figure checks attached, so

(41:43):
be it. But I think from the positioning my God
has gifted me with for the sake of mediocrity, so
that those in which men, women and above can feel
all comforted by the collective nature of black average.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
If you look it over here for that task.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
You're gonna you're gonna be fucked up because I don't
have it for you.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
That's it, m M.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Right now, I want to deal with it because this
person keeps putting this comment in here, and I was
gonna get to it, and I you know, again, it
just shows me that there's a real lack of understanding
between you know, male and the female position. And so
this person keeps obsessively commenting saying, you know, millionaire men
do it all the time, So let's talk about men

(42:29):
and women, men and women. And he is absolutely right.
Men date and mary women who may not have the
skill set or the income, or the status or any
of those things because women traditionally, traditionally in our society
have been conditioned to uh be the housewife or provide

(42:53):
for the man. In fact, I was gonna have to
study today that was talking about how widows once a
man dies, or saying anybody should die. But men, men
benefit from marriage far more than women because if you
are a good wife, there's nothing wrong with being a
good wife, a virtuous woman. You are consistently putting your
husband and your children. You should as a wife, and

(43:15):
when you're at you should as you should. That is
what a wife is supposed to do. If your wife
is not putting your husband and children first, then she's
probably lacking when we look at what is a virtuous woman,
because that scripture, line by line is talking about what
she does for her husband, how he even presents himself

(43:35):
in the world, what she does for her children. It
is all about the virtuous woman. Which is why you
usually see men advocating. They're usually the ones in the
communey saying that's why you're gonna be by yourself, that's
why you need a marriage. Is white because men benefit
from marriage more so than women. It's better on their health,
it's better when the women are able to do most
of the child rearing, it's better for him to be

(43:55):
able to go out and and hunt and bring the
meat back. The woman is the spiritual backbone of the house.
So I understand why men tend to advocate for marriage.
My thing is, though they're advocating for it by insulting you,
you know, by saying that's why you're this, and that's
why you're that. And what I want these men to

(44:17):
know is when you're doing that to women, it's not
making them want to be married. It just simply explains
to them why all of their married girlfriends are some
of their married girlfriends are in therapy and on depression pills,
because you and the emotional whatever emotional abuse that you're
trying to put on a woman that you don't even know,

(44:38):
that you don't even know, they don't know you from Adam,
that is somehow internalized your choice. They did nothing but
in married too, nothing but blue collar men. And I
find it so interesting that this sometimes every just comes
down just to the basic of men just feeling rejected.
Because on my posts and people go look at my posts.
When one guy started generalizing all women, I say, don't

(45:00):
generalize all black women. That's just like me generalizing all
black men and saying all black men go to prison
or criminals or you know x y Z. He said,
I'm not one of those men. I am. You know,
that's the bottom of the barrel. And then he tried
to say, you know, just like Kevin Samuel said. And
I said, I'm so glad you brought up Kevin Samuels
because my day one is Kevin Samuel's nephew that has

(45:20):
been loving me since ten and he went to prison
and he got a fellow me and now he owns
a business and he's a barber, and he's all of
that and more, and you have called him the bottom
of the barrel. So what I find very interesting about
this conversation is I look at my educated brothers that
put down blue collar men. I look at a white
collar man that put down blue collar I look at
blue collar man that that talk about men that are

(45:42):
in the halfway house. So to me, it seems that
a lot of this is driven from internalizing feeling rejected,
not feeling as good. So let's get back to the
millionaire man situation so that we can they can just
have about.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Kevin samuels all the women and it's a bad thing.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's only this because I was actually before he dearly
departed us, was actually entertaining. Kevin and I were in
conversation about having this conversation in a similar way, because again,
I'm so tethered Tesla to working on the reparation and
the restoration of black men and black women relationships. But
I have to say that it was very It was
not lost on me that in this whole outpour of

(46:24):
commentary when someone said to me, oh, I wish Kevin
was alive to school evity now, I said that that's
interesting because let's let's say, y' y'all, y'all's wet dream
comes true and Ebony dies alone and by herself in
the old books home, I would still personally choose that
over how brother Kevin left us, which was having sex

(46:44):
with a prostitute at the young age of forty something.
So I just want to say, I just want to say,
we hold that as our standard of life's success. We
need to be real careful with looking at the contextual
nature of that. I'm gonna go ahead and say I'd
rather do it by myself, build by build my empire,
live my life, have my help and my old agent.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
By myself. I'll take it in it every week over.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
The brother Kevin had to leave this earth, which I
don't think anybody deserves, but that was that was the circumstance.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Brother Jabuels left uh with a.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Heart attack, with poor, poor health care, in the arms
of a prostitute. And it's not a good threshold, brothers
to hold yourselves too. Now go ahead and continue.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
That house wife. Now, let me get to the data
on this too, this dialog concept there and then and
then I want to get back to the marriage with men.
Things bigger than men do it all the time. First
of all, everybody die along. Can we get that? Everybody
dies alone? Unless you're doing a murdered suicide, You're going
to die by yourself. That's just the reality. Now, I

(47:50):
think what people are saying is there's not going to
be anybody there to uh, you know, change joy to
high and.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Else let's just get be who you hired.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Now. The truth though, that according to the data, women
outlive their husbands. So my grandmother's minds should be ninety
three next month. She was married forty plus years. My
grandfather's been deceased about ten or fifteen. So according to
the data, I just want to talk about the data
for a minute. Yeah, even women who are married for

(48:22):
long periods of time, ultimately based upon the health of
black men, still most cases outlive their husbands. So when
I see men pushing this marriative dialogue, dialogue dialog, I
wonder is it because your concerned is you need a
woman there to continue to take care of you when ultimately,

(48:44):
when you pass away, she will be there alone. And
so I just want people. I know they think that's
a major threat when actionality, widows live longer. Just as
a point, this is just the data live longer because
of the lack of stress. So I know you guys
keep typing in the comments over and over and over,
and I'm just telling you doesn't let you.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Yeah, I really do watch out to know most people
in this conversation, I'm seeing Tesla know who we are.
They know our value in this conversation. What Tesla did
I know are the numbers.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
We are never going.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
To participate in a conversation like this without doing our
research and coming to the table with the information.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
So now let's also deal with this quick man before
I go back to me and their husbands. When people
say that's the problem with black women, they don't marry
those kind of men. Whether the data shows that thirty
six percent almost forty percent of black men are blue
collar workers, and since black women they marry partner with
because remember everybody doesn't get married, so mary partner with

(49:46):
black men more than any other group. Doesn't mean that
black women don't stay outside the race. But as whole
as a collective, black women they mary partner with black
men more than any of the group. So let's stop
the narrative, becau as you heard one woman's answer to
apply to all black women, because the narrative shows that
black women they married black men more than any other group,

(50:10):
and almost fifty percent of those men are in blue
collar And if we rarely get down to it, we
can start talking about the numbers that are in debt.
We can start talking about the number that has fellowmies.
We can just start talking about the ones that went
to prison. So nobody, this is where I got frustrated.
Nobody has held it down for black black men more
than black women. That's the bottom one. Fine, so let's

(50:31):
stop this bullshit on that's the problem with black women
because nobody, including your mama, your daddy, your greasy head
granny aunts all the way down, nobody has prayed for
you more. Nobody has sacrificed for you more. Nobody has
put their house up for mortgage more. Nobody has signed
your black ass co sign more. Nobody has been there

(50:54):
for you more than the black woman, period. So regardless
of what you think any YouTube guru seeing or what.
And again, I don't have a problem with Kevin's commentary
because that was a very isolated group of individuals that
he was talking to, of people that called in that
had those similar circumstances. But when you look at black
women as a collective, as a collective, and I'm saying

(51:18):
this as a woman who married a mechanic and did
time with a man for fifteen years in the pen,
so all of that you're gonna be seeing that shit
don't land well on me because I've done that, did that,
and will continue too because they say better than the
bed bad talk about that later. The point is, I
don't wipe out for me and get mad when I
say that. The point is, nobody has been there more
for you than the black woman. So why is it

(51:41):
that they internalize what Ebany says instead of hearing what
may be their mother said, what their grandmother said, what
they aunt said. So if I say something and I
trigger you more than what your mother planted into you,
that means you're talking to your mama. You can't be
talking to me. Now, let's move on find to millionaire
men and why millionaire men I can date women.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
So I just want to take a beat for that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Let's make a beat from it on a lot and anyway,
So let's talk about currency.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
So we're gonna have this.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
To start talking about. We're gonna have this conversation a test.
We have to talk about the perspective social currencies. And
by currency, I mean the valuation of men and women
in society.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
So here's what we do now, and this comes from.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
A primitive calcitualist. Okay, Then are evaluated historically and modernly
on what they can contribute to the household by way
of provision and protection. We need a man, the man
that was most desired in the olden days, and you
could apply that to whatever time period you want to

(52:54):
stone ages nineteen forties, Grandma and grandpa PLoP. The man
that can bring home the big piece of chicken and
the man that can make sure no one takes it
from y'all's household. That is the most desirable man in society,
period and that controls for race. Talk about women and
our currency.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Anybody that thought they were hurting my feelings or that
of other rich, wealthy, educated black women by saying that
men don't care about your education and income, I mean
to tell you, my dear heart, we know this.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
We know this.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
No man, and let's suh, you a real broke cobo
motherfucker is out here looking to source women based off
of our degrees or our bank accounts. Know this.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
So thank god, we are not pursuing either of those things.
Neither education impacting the world, nor wealth, neither of any
of the three things for the sake of male approval
or desire. Those are independent things. So what are women's
What are women's currency, Tesla? It's our beauty and our youth.

(53:57):
And this actually correlates to what fertility. This is where
it's primitive. Men are seeking the woman who is most
youthful and most beautiful, inadvertently or consciously because they are
looking to pro create in the.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Most fantastic way possible.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
So that is why if you see millionaire men of
all races will talking about black men today that will
bring in multiple millions or even billions of dollars and
date and marry a secretary. That is why they will
marry and date an unemployable. They married women that work
in exotic entertainment. They will date and marry women with

(54:38):
little to new education. And guess what the best part is,
y'all educated black women aren't mad about it, at least
I know I'm not, and I know you're not, Tesla,
because we understand that that is the dynamic in which
the current that women are.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Trading on youth and beauty.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
So the older we get this is more to the
reason for those that are very confused as to why
I'm pursuing your motherhood alone by myself at this stage
of life, because.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
My currency is no longer what it used to be.
And I was right there and say that again, because
they really think that you don't understand market, that my
market value your present thinking they're telling you something about
saying but so we repeat that breaking news.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, I want to be really vulnerable.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Actually in this conversation, Tesla, I am most aware, acutely
aware that as I age almost forty, my fertility has decreased.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
One could argue my beauty while still present, because Beach,
don't get confused while still present. It's not the same
duty it was at twenty seven. I'm clear on that.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Yet, the other aspects of my life that I have
chosen to invest in, my education, my income, my asset building,
really my community liberation standpoints are things that I have
chosen to employ. So I can't control the youth and
the beauty part that's going to deteriorate and appreciate regardless.

(56:18):
So I'm making a choice to invest in the appreciable
assets that lie in front of me, which are gonna
be the things that we just enumerated, buying property, buying assets,
starting more businesses, getting it, getting out in front of
the camera and getting behind it.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Testla, We've had conversation.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Y'all gonna be seeing a lot less of epany K
Williams and your motherfucking cameras, and you're gonna be seeing
produced by, created by, owned by because that's how serious
I am about black leadership the ship. So I'm feinding
clear of my market value. The problem is when black
men may be a men period. Really, because again I have,
and I know somebody'll trying to shame me about the

(56:57):
statement of I've been there and done.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
That with all of them. Yeah I have.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
But I know y'all want to put a million dollar
body count on me that If that makes you feel good,
that's fine and trusting believe if I wasn't the fuck
a million I would have.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yes, I would. But but it said.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
What I mean by that statement is I have been
blessed to date men all across the world, Testla.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
And I dated men in the UK.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I did it, Nigerian men, Latino men, indigenous men, Jamaican men,
Haitian men, Jewish men, you name it. And because yeah,
you know right, And because I've had such a delicious sampling, okay,
such a broad scope understanding and sampling, I can.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Test the data and the data as the men of.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
All of those variable points appreciate the same thing, the
youth and the beauty, so as the co cuity deteriorate,
I black women in America am left with no choice
but to simultaneously invest in my appreciable assets, not the
depreciable ones. And there lies the anger Tesla's when women

(57:59):
realize that we have an alternative pathway to everything we've
ever wanted in life, to the lifestyle we want to live,
to the children we want to have. They real mad
about that now that third party reproductive assistance is available
to women with the assets, means, and resources. A lot
of men are very angry because prior to that, women

(58:19):
of all races and incomes would be dependent on male
mediocrity if they need to be mothers. But now that
if you want to be a mother, there are a
litany of ways to do that, that has approached another hostility.
So really what we're talking about is, no, I won't
date a bus driver. No I will not have children,

(58:40):
or marry or be partner with someone that I find
mediocre in any way. And that doesn't mean anything bad
about those positions. I'm gonna leave you test them with
a good little alcohol analogy. I told you I was
gonna hit you with this, and I was going to
do food. But I realized that we all have to
have food to live, and contrary to popular belief, we
don't even have to have dick to lived.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Did you know that? Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
It's amazing because what you think and you need it
to live, but it's not like oxygen, you don't even
need it. But anyway, anyway, I'm gonna go with alcohol.
So there was a time in my life, Tesla, in
which I used to enjoy a beverage call. You might
not even know this beverage, but you might Mad Dog
twenty twenty. Do you remember, girl? It was for two

(59:26):
hours of nineteen cent Why do you play? They had
They had strawberry banana, regular strawberry, they had mango.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
And we'll be here all day, right, Okay, so Mad
Dog twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
There was a time in my life, Tesla, where you
couldn't give me nothing but Mad Dog twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
And I enjoyed it. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
I drank every every little ouce, every drop. And then
my palette evolved. And then there was a time where
you couldn't have told me the best thing in the
world wasn't Kindle Jackson Shardonnay, you're called this Kendoll Jackson burnet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I just thought that was the cats me out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
But today, at thirty nine, and as you know, a
woman who've had the privilege of traveling all across the world,
if I'm going to drink a white wine. The only
thing you can offer me is a very nice, stry
quality Savion blanc, preferably from South Africa or New Zealand.
Now you might be asking why is she talking about this, Well,

(01:00:26):
because alcohol is like a man, it's it's an amazing
and I like and I like to drink.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Let me be clear, a drink. That's how that's how
a lot we be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I do it. That's how you need. I'll bring this
up to say that much like a man, it's a preference,
but not a requirement unless you're alcoholic, which we're not,
thank god. But if I'm going to drink, that's what
I want to drink, a nice, high quality Sabyon Blanc
if I'm gonna drink that type of type of spirit.
So if I'm at the bar, Tesla and I'm gonna

(01:01:01):
ask you you at the bar and you say I'd
like a save Yon Blanc, and they say, oh, Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
You know what, we we had some.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
We no longer have any save Yon blanc for you, mispairual,
but we do have that strawberry Kiwi mad Dog. Would
you like some of that? What are you gonna say?

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Just probably because it's not and it's not That's what
it's not saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
It's not saying there's not somebody right, motherfucking now and
join the delicious cold glass of mad dog, because they
are and they always will. It's not saying that mad
dog is beneath you because we've all consumed it. What
saying is, at this point in your life, my dear sister,
you would rather pass than consume something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That is not what you desire in this moment.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
And that is the perfect analogy, tesla, of all that
was said in that conversation with the young.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
It's not anything against.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
A bus driver.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
My mother is driven above.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
I live it, I love it. I love public transportation.
It's fantastic and they are very good livings to be
ear doing that work. It is simply not designed for
the life I am living today. And if you internalize
that it is something other than that, that says more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
About you, my love that it says about me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Well, I do want to say this before you go,
because this is important. I want to lead us out
here for those that do date may make more money
than men than the men that are, because it's a
lot of that in the comments, and I keep trying
to make sure that position is out there as well,
because we have different preferences on men. Sure, even though
the same industry do the same thing, align on a

(01:02:41):
lot of things. And I got to get this out
there because you know, going back to the you know,
millionaire men they date, you know, women that don't have
when they're in those environments, those women are usually if
I they go play golf and they bring their wife,
they're usually there with other women that are similar to them.
Talk about the kids, that talk about their husbands, how

(01:03:04):
often their husbands are a way, you know, they have
those conversations, they relate in those social circles. So the
one thing about income, but also income puts you into
a different social circle. On this class you call it
whatever you want to say, classes and whatever it is,
it is what it is and puts you in a
different circle. And what I know to be true for
women that do date men that maybe make substantially less.

(01:03:28):
I'm not talking about you make eighteen dollars in that right,
you make eighteen an hour. She makes twenty four an hour,
And oh I don't have a problem. She make more
than me. People are not understanding we're talking about a
very a large gap, a big gap, not not a
ten thousand dollars gap of twenty thousand dollars gap, but
an almost six figure gap between one person and the other.

(01:03:50):
It does put you into a different class. But for
my sisters that do that, will date men that not
make it as much, because I'm one that will. But
I will tell you he is though that even if
he makes less, a lot of men are insecure about
dating women that make substantially more because when you bring

(01:04:11):
that man to the cocktail party, he's not sitting around
talking about taking care of the kids or doing whatever.
Those men that he is having a conversation with are
usually the businessman, the business as because right, so I
need people to understand that even though if you date,

(01:04:35):
let's day and nothing wrong with that, but if you're
in a different social circle, some men, not all, some
men are very intimidated by that because they feel less
than We're just giving us that for those your O housewife,
so let's just use a real housewives and Atlanta as
an example.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
By being among a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Millionaires constantly, that's it. Todd is constantly told, even though
he has several businesses, you live off your wife. Candy
is a sugar Mama. She takes care of you. She does.
Ever constantly is the constant thing in their relationship that
he has to manage with his ego and how he
presents and how whatever. And he has to manage it

(01:05:14):
with her mother, He has to manage it with peers.
He got to manage it online. This man is constantly
told that he's living off his wife. So you don't
see that when women who make less than a marry millionaire,
why you're here, Oh, she's a trophy wife, and that's
known to be a good thing. So I do want
people to understand that when successful Black women that make

(01:05:35):
a certain amount, when they do say you know what, hey,
I don't care about what the brother makes a lot
of times with that to maintain that relationship even with him,
because a lot of times he may not feel value.
Just as much as you guys are triggered about a
woman you don't even know are triggered, Imagine if you
are with that woman and you're constantly feeling like you
have to compete and constantly feeling like, well, maybe she

(01:05:56):
doesn't think I have enough forgot even if I be,
I beg let me pay for the meal at a meal. No, no, no,
I don't want you doing that. I don't want you
to feel like you're taking care of me. I don't
want to be no kept nigga. I can get it
on my own. So there's a lot of healing, you
know that also has to go on on the men's
part to say that if a boss say I want
I want you to come roll with me and ride

(01:06:16):
with me, do you know how to support that woman
other than financial Because a lot of men their idea,
like you said, protect and provide, protect, I'm a beat up.
Anybody in the room is need be and then provide.
And so when you take that away from men to
be able to provide, and you're with a woman that
does really, really well. I'm talking about really well, not

(01:06:37):
just a few bucks, with really well, and you say, oh, no,
I can handle it, I'm here to tell you that
a lot of men, not all really have take issue
with that because it's like you've taken away something that
they want to give you and they don't know how
to support a woman through prayer or support or make
me take me care of I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Think we gotta address because it is that you know
a lot of people in the comics talking about this
notion of building. We went there early, but I want
to say it really plainly. Building presumes the quality from
foundational points.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
So the challenge in this.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Conversation that we're having, Tesla, and you've already said it,
but we're gonna have to get bears repeated for this
particular conversation, how do we build when you've got women?

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
And now I'm going to go back into the data points.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Black women are pacing black men in higher learning by
some estimates five six and seven to one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
We need to be honest about that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
I sent you a graphic sheet from LinkedIn teslim before
our call, posted by the Good Brother, the CEO of
Revolt TV. We both had wonderful relationships with Natavio Samuels.
Then it talks about black women above all other races
and categories of women are the bread winners of their household.
When you started talking about households that are either egalitarian,

(01:07:59):
which means men and women providing equally, and or the
women providing more in the household, black women win that
competition every time. So we know that black women are
out earning black men in terms of the pure data.
We know that black women are more educated than Black men.
We know that Black women are starting businesses at a

(01:08:20):
higher rate. They're not just Black men than own men,
let's be clear, followed very closely by Latino women. We
know that Black women are owning homes when you start
talking about home ownership in the Black community, and actually
a period, single women are bouy by twenty percent of
the houses on the market. Single men are buying ten y'all.
These are the numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
So instead of just getting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Mad at anybody me or any other woman you think
is not getting it, or emasculating men, or talking shit
about blue collar men, y'all, let's look at what's really
going on to cause an inequity and inequality of being
a of being able to meet each other right here

(01:09:02):
and build together. It is because by the time black
girls and women are graduating from school and starting their career.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
Paths, they are already at a fiscal advantage. So that's
the thing that I think. I think I want to
leave the conversation with a question, in not a statement,
what are we doing as a Black culture and community
taught that addresses the persistent and ever growing gap of
wealth between single Black men and single Black women, because

(01:09:30):
I don't know a black woman says them that wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Love to build on top of what she's already built
with a partner.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
But when we look to our left and right, unfortunately
the numbers say this, and a lot of black men
in the comments that were feeling the way admitted this number.
There's only a very small percentage of black men that
have the educational and financial bandwidth to show up equally
partnered and ready to build alongside many of the women

(01:09:59):
were talking about conversation, So how do we how do
we increase that number? I think that's instead of trying
to argue black women, it's an average quote situations and mediocrity.
How do we expand the pool the scope of black
men that are able to show up and build alongside
really accomplished, highly educated, wealthy black women. Now let me

(01:10:25):
say this is my closing statement, because this is another
one that's aligned I brothers, y'all need to stop this
bullshit about we don't care what you mean. Let's just
stop that line. I know you've heard that on YouTube.
I know that it's your talking point that you were
given and you can continue to run with it. But
as Tesla Ferrol aka the Hood Whisperer, who has definitely

(01:10:45):
I know exactly that y'all give a damn about what
I bring to the table. So let's stop this bullshit.
I'm so typed old men don't care about that bullshit
because if the average person, according to the dam again
we're just talking to the that you continue you just
to that y'all keep saying only ten percent makes six figures,
only one percent, it's only two percent of that, So

(01:11:06):
that means that you don't make that which means that
we have a huge come gap well ratio with what folks.
So if you are sitting here thinking that you're impressing
somebody saying, oh, I'm about to go there, If you
say I don't care what no woman brings to the table,
then brother, something is wrong with you. Because one thing

(01:11:27):
that Todd pointed out that I appreciated, and he pointed
out about Candy, he said, man should want to reach
for the top, you should want a boss woman. What
is wrong with y'all in the comments that keep talking
about you don't care what a woman brings to the table,
because the reality of it is, I know it's a
damn line because if you went to college. I know
you have college death. If you got a baby mama,

(01:11:47):
I know you got child support. If you want a house,
I know you need a down payment, I know, damn well,
you need a woman's coins. And I'm not even talking
about a seven figure woman, our six min one. I'm
talking about even the teacher that may fifty thousand justly
for you to be able to go on a damn vacation,
you need your white's income. So stop this bullshit about

(01:12:10):
we don't care what women bring to the table. No,
what you're doing is trying to psychological begin in the
mind of maybe a woman. You're pursuing to believe that, oh,
it's all right, he don't care what I bring to
the table. And guess what, brother, if you don't care
what she brings to the table, you better step your
damn game up, because according to the numbers, Ebany just said,
it's plenty women out here making the bag. It's plenty

(01:12:30):
of women out here getting it. So, brother, let me
ask you, since you keep on asking everyony who her
man is and why she can't get one, let me
ask you why you can't get a woman that's making
six figures because they're plentiful. It's way more black women
making six figures than it is black men. So, brothers,
why is it that you can't get a woman that's
making six figures? Why is it that you're struggling? Why
is it that you can't do the things you want

(01:12:52):
to do? Do you not know how to bag a
woman that makes six figures? Okay, so the question can
also be flipped and we can ask you the same question.
And I want to just say this problem let every
go again. Every woman is in a different stage in
her life. I've had my children, I've been married, I've
done that. I'm not looking. I'm under like, just like
you understand your value, I understand my value, and I

(01:13:15):
understand that once I've already did the wedding, the child,
the house, the this, the that it's about being outside
for me. So so I am not I won't you
to understand. Every don't have classes. We're very well lif
in a lot of ways, we're different in a lot
of ways, have different mighty it. Okay, I'm just bothered
by like you. I don't know if it was Hu

(01:13:36):
Jazz or somebody else I was saying. They were like
people understand when you say I don't want to date
the bus drop That means this more bus droppers for
other bitches today it's a black thing. It's you call
a way and I'm look that was also true.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
I really really need y'all to stop ending that anything
that I said or that we've said, even in this conversation,
tesla is about eliminating other qualifications. Nobody said, well, if
he owns the bus or if he's an entrepreneur, he
could be a piece of ship. Y'all made that up.
What look at oil in the comments. Y'all may of

(01:14:12):
course that goes with I would say it goes without saying.
But we got some some people that need some articulation Tesla.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Integrity, character, consistency. That's I'm not even that's I don't
understood though, because if you're if you're a dad, be dead,
then you don't have character. If you're out about body,
you don't have I thought that was understood, because but
y'all do know based off of everything you've seen of myself,

(01:14:40):
just I'm gonna just center on me since i've known
y'all was tending from the comments, everything y'all have seen
of me, watch any of my work read any of
my books. I'm not entertaining any body of any social, economic,
or educational status that doesn't have basic God values. I
call him God values. Okay, so that's number one.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
So I up this framing test that all these bus
drivers are saints.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Y'all been watching too many Tyler Perr movies. That's what
it is. All the drivers are saints and faithful and
God fearing, good, loveing surgery, and all the all the
surgeons and all the entrepreneurs got aids. That's the That's
then rative that y'all thevery too, the talent that told
you y'all need to stop, that's right. And that's a

(01:15:25):
damn line too, and again shut out to shut out,
to rail of the bill. I'm getting tired of that too.
You know this idea that men who are successful at
being on aids testling And.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
It's almost like when you go to the bank and
your ship clear five hundred K, that she just says
that now you got full blow aids, your your TCL
count is too bitch like y'all need to stop that,
y'all really, like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Eve been talking about Challa May too much, all of
chief all town, please, I'm dated man a fifitentiary, and
it's put a five in the chat ladies, and you're
gonna keep it real. You don't day make pettention problems.
So let's maybe women that maybe I don't have so
took that part. That's right, even when they don't have

(01:16:14):
women around me. So let's start this bullshit assists, and
let's just keep it real so that men on men
regardless of the income status. The bottom line is, it
is a different dynamic when the woman is able to bring,
you know a little bit more to the table, because
that means she may not necessarily I put up with
your shies. You can get her own house. You get

(01:16:36):
on that. I sleep on that. Ten powers. People coming
about salaries and one thirty and five hundred and seven
fifty fuck all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
We're talking about power. We're talking about the fact that
again I dated all incomes. I have literally dated men
Tesla who have made twenty eight thousand dollars a year.
I've dated men that made one hundred million plus and
one billion. Let's be very clear, that's what I mean
by I got a ball. Oh yeah, you know, you know,
knowing that was the minority owner of the Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
We won't talk. We'll talk about later anyway. Anyway, Anyway,
here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
Once you date a man of any race with that
level of income, he is typically not as attracted. News flash,
I'm gonna have my tom broke a moment. He is
not as incentivated and attracted to hire any women. Why
why test it? Because you nailed it? Because his ability
to move any kind of way. It could be cheating,

(01:17:28):
It could not be. It could just be I want
to you need to just be happy to be here posta.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
So when I tell you where we're living, where we're
going on vacation, what the fuck you about to put
on to my gala and my company.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
That's what the fuck you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Because you cannot live this lifestyle.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
You cannot be in the sky lounge, you cannot be
on the private jet, you be at the four Seasons,
you feeling the same regions with you can be at
soho Ammond filling the blak private.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Club without me. So and so y'all on what I'm
talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Oh no, no, no, how on policy? They know because
they putting up winning just to get the bills, say
the weekly.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Out, okay, so no problem, nomber look and that, and
that goes back to our original concept. Everybody is living
a different life on their terms. So again, I really
just want this to be about and not debating and
not trying to get nobody up. Fuck nobody up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
We are all black loving people. Let's hold the space
for wherever we are in our journey, wherever we are
in our pursuits, making people feel like they have a
opportunity of choice, and not shaming them about it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
And this is the last part. Your people need to
know tests, and your good black people to know you
cannot shame me. First of all, I was raised by
Gloria J.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Williams.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
She's crazy as motherfucker, so you cannot shame me. So
this is not about embarrassing or shaming. What would it
look like if we flipped that framing test as a
culture and nade it about community education again, Let's stop
talking about a race to the bottom. Let's have come
about a race to mediocrity. Let's come about a race
to average, and let's bring everybody down to average. What

(01:19:09):
would it look like to bring many many, many, many,
many many up to uh superior many many many up
to abundance many many many, many, many up to elite
first class citizenship in the United States of America, a
land of which we are responsible for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
Yeah. I know we keep saying we're gonna leave on
this note. But just for the citizens that don't care
about the income, brothers, I want you to know if
you do, if you don't make a certain amount, you
better be putting it down in the bedroom. That's not
that ain't This is me talking. You know, nerve you,
nerve you to sit around and run around that you
you're gonna have to make that somewhere, pick up the

(01:19:48):
pick your current struggle. Phil. I think that's a real arity. Besides,
we should leave with with with God. We should leave
you know. That's my.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
That's it. I love you. I love you by way
all right back I said bye bye so so much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
All right, y'all, So that's that. I'm going to close
out my YouTube, family YouTube. Come on over uh to
uh Instagram. I want to close this. How you were
listening to straight shot, no chasing with testing? Figure on
closing out because I want to make sure that my
producer has all the information a good conversation. Tell me
what y'all thought about it? What did y'all think about it.

(01:20:40):
What were your fat Let me know if you can
hear me, still hold on? Did you learn anything? Did
you get anything? Did it make sense? Are you still
saying and all? I'm still internalizing what she said? What's what?

(01:21:10):
Loved it all? You got good feedback? Great? Well you
know again guys. Ever, he reached out and said, hey,
y'all want to have this conversation with you, go live great,
no problem. I will just say this again, y'all, don't
heart my feelings. Like again, I married a mechanic. They're
the same person twenty some years. So ain't nobody's feelings hurt.

(01:21:32):
But I do want to say this that for those
of y'all to keep talking about date somebody that doesn't
make as much or I have as much, I really
do want to tell you that a lot of my
girlfriends in this space would love to do that and
they can't can't because a lot of men just can't
handle the level of success. Seriously, it's a lot. It's more.

(01:21:52):
It's not just an income thing. It is a you know,
feeling value and feeling like a man and you know
all of those things. Oooh, fair Grace said, black women
are not. The rehabilitation centers were broken broken men. I
guess he told y'all. And that's coming from a man
by sisful man, by the way. So in closing, I

(01:22:14):
hope you got a couple of things. One, she was
talking about herself, not talking about everybody else. Two, don't
internalize have somebody else what statement they say and put
that on all black women. Remember the things that your
mom told you, your grandmother told you. Hopefully they poured
something into you. If you didn't, that's the problem there. Three.
Let's stop beating up on each other and talking about

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black men and and black women, and that's what's wrong
with y'all. And this is and that. Four. If you're
so happy and so married and so whatever, why be
concerned about what sing single people are doing, because that's
given misery love company. Five. Let's also know that we
are well aware that marriage benefits men more than it

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does women, and that's why men are the ones pushing this.
Got to be married, got to be married, got to
be married, must be married, must be married, must be married.
That ain't nothing wrong with it, because a good wife
should be taking care of you and your children. If
she's a good wife, according to the virtuous woman. Any
woman that is married and has children, she puts her
children and her husband first. She's constantly always doing something
for them. She gets around herself when she makes hide.

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So a lot of times that's why men. That's why
you see men so aggressive on this. You don't see
women talking about this. It's only men. That's why you're
gonna be alone. That's why you gonna diet long. That's
why you did it. I mean, it's so obvious. It's
so obvious. Also, let's understand that every woman is at
a different place in her life. Says, So you may
be okay well being build a bear and bringing you know,

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building a man, but I also understand there's some women
that have already been there and done that. And when
you start getting into your you know, forties and in
the thirty five, you may want somebody that knows how
to handle basic adulting. Nothing wrong with that. Now, if
you want to put somebody on your couch and teach
them about credit and teaching about having a business, and
teach you about all of that at forty, hey cis

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by always do it. Please make sure you're putting it
down on you know, that's the only way you put
it down on you more likely probably is nine times
out of team. He probably is. But if you want
to do that, be okay, we're doing that, bill Sis.
But also don't get upset with other people who said,
you know what I've already built and I kind of
want somebody to help me go further. That goes for

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men and women. And let me say this on my
clothes and thought again, you men that keep talking about
you don't care what a woman brings to the table.
I pity you. I pity you. You don't want no
woman that can lift you up. You don't want no
woman that can take you to another level. You don't
want a woman that can quote some spiritual gain to
you besides what she read on a meme. I'm sorry,

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maybe it's just me, but see when they come to me,
they gonna get advice based on receipts, not just what
I heard. Well, you know, I was looking through a
good meme and they said today that you need to
do this or that. Me come to meeting and say,
may hi, I having this with my business. Okay, I'm
gonna do this, need to do it like this because
I want to Orlando Business Journal twice. You need to
do this because I've been recognized as this. You need

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to do this because I got to receise to show me.
You need to do this because I can back it up.
You need to do this because I can bring somebody
else to the table. Oh baby, I'm looking for an investment.
I'm probably got an investment. Needed to call them me
to do what? See? So all of y'all talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
We need to build bill Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
You don't even know what Bill looked like. I'm about
to go there on a Sunday. Can I go ahead
and tell you because I don't look at your income.
Just to be clear, I don't look at your income.
I do look at your size now, but I don't
look at your income. And I want to tell you
that some of you ain't ready for the upgrade package
because you wouldn't know what to do with it. You
wouldn't know what to do with it. So let's stop
the live and myth that you don't care what I

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bring to the table. And if you don't care what
I bring to the table, then your mammy and them
done failed you. They failed you. I know the Utube
Guru told you men don't care about your income. But brother,
let me tell you something, Black people, the income gas
ratio is too damn wise for you to care. Not

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care about what a woman don't bring to the table. Now,
if you want to go get somebody that don't do
shit but sit up and get her hair done and
go to the club and be outside and drinking and
smoking and smoking and drinking and laying up on the
couch and can't do shit, then baby, that's on you.
But to my brothers, put a five in the chat.
I just want to know if you're still alive and well,

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put a five in the chat. If it matters to you,
if she knows how to go get a contract or two,
if it matters to you, if she got the discipline
to get up and go to work. If it matters
to you and she can do one job, or maybe
even too, if it matters to you that she know
how to manage her bank account, that she not running
your shit in the ground, Let me know if it
matters to you and she can add two plus two.

(01:26:45):
Let me know if it matters to you, if she
can get through a complete sentence without stumbling. I just
want to know if it matters to you and she
knows how to read the fine prints. I just need
to know if it matter to you that if you
out go and get handling your business and the contract
is show up at the house, that she's not a
in distress because she knows how to read the fine
print and say, I'm sorry you said you was gonna
do X y Z. I just want to know if
it matters to you. I she gotta call you and

(01:27:07):
say I'm sorry, I can't figure it out. I gotta
call my husband, because see, one thing I know about
a millionaire man. One thing I know about a millionaire man.
He want to stay a millionaire. He wants to stay
a millionaire. And you can't stay a millionaire with a ditz.
I'm sorry, you can't stay a millionaire with a ditz
because everything that your wife could be doing you got
to pay to get done. You gotta pay an accountant,

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you gotta pay somebody be your taxes. I'm sorry, let's
go to what Nod said. He says, she's so fine,
and then still do my taxes for the riris. I
just want to go by what the good brother Nod says.
He said, why I'm rubbing on her breast? She still
could do my taxes for the irs. So I'm just
saying that there are some men that kind of want
you to do it all. And because I can do
it all, that means I have the skill to get
the bag. And I want to apologize for the bank.

(01:27:50):
I want to apologize for the bag. We're gonna stop
the bag shaming. Let us declare right now, on this
Sunday morning or this Sunday evening, let us stop the
bag shaming. Let's stop. Let's just stop it. Let's stop it.
Let's stop it. Let's stop it. You may not like
what Ebany said, I feel you, but what I want
you to do. If you don't need nothing else from this,

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let's stop the bad shaming. Because if you are okay
what having a woman that don't bring you shit, then
you really don't need to be a part of this
conversation period. Since you're so concerned about the black family
and the black family moving ahead, brother, you can't move
ahead by yourself. We dealing with white supremacy. It's gonna
take both of us. It's gonna take both of us.

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And somebody got to be able to read that fine print.
Somebody gotta be able to go out and get that bag.
Somebody gotta be able to do it. Because one thing
that you will understand what a power couple. Some of
y'all understands you never had it that masklin energy and
feminine energy both pays a part. Sometime it might be
something I don't want to talk to a dude about
because maybe he's trying to get my pants get a contract.

(01:28:51):
Maybe go handle it, go talk to him, pamphlet, and
sometime I may go handlet for him. Let me go
talk to the play. You know he was looking to
put together some and such. Just close the deal for
my friend not too long ago. Let me send that.
Can't send an email. Let him know that, no problem.
You know it's my friend just closed the deal because

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of it. That's why Beyonce said, bring me along to
the meeting and I close the deal. See there's the difference.
So some of y'all, it's okay. I understand. I know
where it's coming from. Some of you may be okay
with having a woman that don't do nothing and you
try to make her little projects bigger than what they sing.
It's okay. And then there's some of you that I

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actually love a safe or sexual that actually loves my
head game. And I'm not talking at this head game,
talking about this head game that actually love us able.

Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
To dialogue, actually love that. I know what I'm talking
about when I can make it happen. So brother, let
just do me a favor and stop saying we don't
care about your income. Because a woman's income is directly
aligned with her ability. So when you say you don't
care about my income because maybe she just makes ten

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dollars an hour, there's nothing wrong with that, no shade.
But what you're saying is I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Not interested in excellence, because when you are interested in excellence,
her income reflects excellence. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
know they say I'm a boss period. Yeah, okay, got it.
Once the rap game is over, what else is it?

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
What else is it? I know it's cute, ladies, I
know it's popular. You know, I get it. But at
the end of the day, while y'all talking Matt Dine alone,
at the end of the day, you're gonna need a
woman to know how to go talk to the nurses,
know how to talk to the doctors, know how to
read the paperwork, know how to get whatever policies are necessary.

(01:30:52):
By the way, I was a license insurance agent, solicitor
Group one, and adjuster. By the way, somebody gonna need
to know how to read through the paperwork. That's important,
especially for the brothers that don't make six figures. You're
gonna need me far more than I'm gonna need you.

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So let's stop the shading. Let's stop the discs, because
you don't need a one woman. I ain't talking the
brothers that make twelve thirteen. I'm talking about NFL players
that I got plenty of NFL friends former. Let's say, hey,
school wasn't reading, wasn't my thing. I need a woman
that got my back and make sure she's looking at
for me. So let's stop this. I don't care what

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she brings to the table. That's some bullshshit. And if
you don't care what a woman brings me to the table,
call your mamma and I'm and I'm I mean this shit,
because what you're saying is you don't have any interest.
And what who's raising you're a girl child? You don't

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care there who's raising your boy child? I ain't talking
about the one percent to the man, I'm talking about
the men after penitentiary all the way up to twenty
dollars an hour, and nobody talking about no one percent
of man. I'm talking about you regular niggas. Remember my
name is says a figure o aka the hood whisper.
I ain't ver dated the end the one percent. My
age husband want to one percent a nigga now the

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one percent. But you regular niggas, y'all care about what
the woman brings to the table. And I know because
I ain't been doing nothing but regular niggas. So let's
let's stop this cap. And I know y'all saw that
out there in the twitters world, in the youtwoe world,
and you took that so you can say some bullshit. Lie,
I see him on the day maps Oh, I don't
care about what you bring to the table. I just

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want to high value woman. That's cooperative, it's submissing, it's cap.
You're saying that because you want to be like Ooh,
I don't he don't care about it. But then as
soon as the taxes come in, baby, let me hold something.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
It's a very obvious game. Ladies. If you're following for
a girl, shame on you. They try to pretend like
they don't care, but they're wait till tax season come.
Can I hold something? I'm just strugglingttle bit. He thinks
I got you to fifty and then you got to
fifty five hundred. I ain't got a problem letting you
borrow your baby because I got it. I got your baby.
Mama don't have it. I got it. Your ex wife
don't have it. I got it. I keeps it. And

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because I got it and I keeps it, I need
you to recognize it and put some respect on my name.
And let us not confuse to me with the other ones,
because at the end of the day, a doctor time
is more than just what you look like. They really is.
While y'all asking about dress sizes, what's your dress size?

(01:33:30):
Let me ask you what's your credit score? Fine, state
it's seven fifty. I better on a good day on
a bad day, So check your credit score it. Stop
worrying about dress sizes and check your credit score, because
ain't nobody impressed with your dress size? Even though h
I do carry that thing. That ain't the point. The
point is that credit score is more on point, those

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received from more on point. The business is one point.
Because I know dress size. It looks I used to
be small all and find as hell I gained forty pounds,
I lost forty pounds, Mike ganging, Mike gaining again, A
lose it again. One thing I ain't gonna lose unless
the Good Lord take my mind away with dementia is
this thing right here, and it's gonna feed you in

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ways you ain't never been felt before. So let us
stop playing this bullshit game, at least in my comments.
Go to somebody else's comments with that shit about don't
nobody care about what you read to the table, because
I don't want no man, man or woman that follow
this page that don't give a damn about who's in
your life and what they're pouring into you spiritually, financially, emotionally,
as emotionhit So to me, you're looking like a dummy.

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You looking like a dummy, and that is what it is.
That is the closing of Straight Shot No Chaser. Your
girl tells the figure out, I'll see you in the
morning on the breakfast club during the front page news Peace.
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