"Boutique Hotels" w/ Cole Escola

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, George here. Since we recorded this episode with
Cola Scola, there have been some very exciting updates for
Cole show Oh Mary, and we wanted to mention them here.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh Mary.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
We'll play off Broadway at the Lucille Ortel Theater through
May twelfth, and then beginning June twenty sixth, Oh Mary
will play on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater for twelve
weeks only. For more information on tickets, you can go
to ohmaryplay dot com. And I just want to stay
on behalf of me and Sam. We are so so
happy for our brilliant friend Cole, and no one deserves

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us more than them. And while I have you here,
I George Savers will be doing my Hour of stand
up at Littlefield in Brooklyn on May twenty second, and
you can find tickets for that at LITTLEFIELDNYC dot com
or at the link in my Instagram bio. All right,
enjoy the show.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Podcast starts now.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I already have a thought, which is I'm gonna bring
back Zippit.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
You're bringing back zippit.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, you brought back methinks, which I think, first of
all worked one.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It swept away by storm.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
People think we might people might think we're joking if
they were not up to date with our Instagram stories.
Let's say, but literally a week after you said we're
bringing back me thinks, none other than Taylor Swift posted
me things methinks.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
The methinks movement was a huge success.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I do think the meathinks movement, well, you know, now
with the benefit of hindsight, did.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
It go too far? Maybe it did get too big
where it started as sort of a you know, alt community,
and then it became so mainstream so fast that even
I found myself being like, no, I don't even like
me thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know, the methinks movement started as people telling their stories,
and they were necessary, but at some point you start thinking,
do they just want attention?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, so you're gonna do that with Zippit.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I'm gonna do that with Zippit. By the way, I
don't actually believe what I just said. That was a
sort of harmless bit.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
We play characters on it. We play characters on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm a huge feminist, and everyone knows that. I do
think I'm gonna I think zip it is such a
fun way to say shut up.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I mean, it's so nineties yeah, and even like the
bit like the zip like.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yes, so have a word that starts with a Z
is so rare? So rarely am I getting rare logical?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, Zelda, well I said that a fairmountain my day.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, well, I'm not a gamer like you.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I had a friend who had a launched a bottled
cocktail company called Zuzu. I said, that is the best
name for this is not a joke, actually a very
good friend of mine, And I was like, that is
such a genius name because everyone wants to say more z's.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Everyone's craving more z's in their life. So I think
zip it could be could be big. I think zip
it could be huge. And I told you this last night. Yeah,
but I'm actually loving the semi irony of exclaiming make
it make sense?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Oh you love make it make sense?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I think make it make sense is so funny. It's
like just vintage enough where it's like some people still
say it for real and.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's rooted in truth. Sometimes you are like, make it
make sense?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Why? But it's such a stupid internet phrase that is
like saying it out in the wild as if it's
normal is very like blurg cored.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's so true.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Do you think does everyone understand blurg A is shorthand.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Wait, hold on, you mean blurg as a medine is
of the right word. Blurg is a categorategorization of specific
Internet language and like and type of humor that's very
sort of like on the spectrum of love. These beautiful humans. Yeah,
I love these beautiful humans is one end, and the
other end is the interwebs, yes, exactly, and Blurg is

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in the middle.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Blurg is center.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
To be clear, the entire spectrum is morally bankrupt, of.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Course, but it's important to recognize that there are differences
within the culture.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I sort of God, someone needs to write an essay
about how I've been saying this for years. It's the
it's it's my term that I coin half humor, which
is when something gestures at being funny but is not
actually funny.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Is blurgcore different than half human?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No, it's I would say, Blurg, interwebs and these beautiful
humans are all part of like the initial wave of
half humor. And I think currently half humor is like
Joe Biden posting Dark Brandon memes. We do have to
bring in our guests, but I want to I want
to torture them even further by talking about something that

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I know they want to comment on while they're not
allowed to speak.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Chastity play.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
We were talking about how our guest and again they
will say this themselves, but they were saying that they
liked being part of a friend group of three. And
MY response was that is the worst number for a
friend group because inevitably someone gets left out. There are
two best friends and one sort of like flop third.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I completely disagree. I think a three group of friends
is like there's checks and balances there.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
From a social justice perspective, undoubtedly it's the right choice,
but I'm saying, like, in practice, listen, it's like how,
of course communism would work, but show me where it
works in practice.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I also like that, you know, it sort of has
an engine churning to a three, like when someone's out
and they're like, okay, well then I'll do something to
get back in, and then and then and then they're like, okay,
well now we need to catch up to this, and
there's just sort of a progress.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're thinking as an improv comedian, and I think for
you and potentially for me, like for us, a three
way friend group would work because we all have a
sense of play within us. I think the average person
wants to be on top and the average person wants
to win. And when the average person is in a
group of three.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Our guest is vigorously shaking their head.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It is also not to state the obvious, very meta
so to speak, that we are currently banning the third
person in this friend group of speaking, we know the
bottom right now. Talking about the benefits slash drawbacks.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Of groups of three, well, and this came up, I
will say, because you know, we were talking and saying,
you know, we were are potentially going to do an
episode with just the two of us, and we were like,
neither of us seemed like like jumping at the at
that and I felt like it was sort of like
we were a couple that needed a third at all

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times and to be engaged with each other.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It is a crutch, I guess, but it doesn't have
to be.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It doesn't have to be. Maybe we don't even bring
in our guests.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ever, I would celebrate.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
It and just sort of do an episode just the
two of us. Now, why wait until the next session?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Why wait? I mean their time is flexible.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, they are free voting anything. They're not promoting anything.
This is a favorite of them, honestly, Yeah, what I
don't even.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like them that much?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
No, no, no, what else would we like to say that?
They would just would love to jump in on?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know, what's the deal with Abraham Lincoln?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Say that?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I've always it's always a big question mark.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I pretty much get.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Is he married?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Okay, let's do it. Our guest has steam coming out
of their damn ears at this point. Please welcome cold
a school. Well, Hi, Hi.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
First of all, half humor is the lifeblood of work.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes, half humor is very much like icebreakers, corporate retreat, latitudes, aphorisms,
badass culture. It's you are a Badass, like the book
You Are a bad Ass? Have you seen that? In airport?
There's a book called I'm pretty sure it's called You
are a Badass. And it's like a self help book
with like a punchy humor.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And and okay, that was one thing. The other thing
is in in groups of three, the pressure is off
to be the pressure is off, I see because it's
just two people and like it's silent. It's like I
like I like being like, you know what, they've got this.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I like that actually, And do you feel that way
in sex as well?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I do I feel that way in sex. No, it's
a threesomes feel confusing, you know, because maybe you don't
want to lay back.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Well, well there's more. Sometimes sometimes you do want a
way back, but there's there's more. There's more.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
If you're a.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Little silent in a three way conversation for a bit
and you're taking a sip of water, you're not thinking, wait,
do they hate me? You just think I'm taking a break.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Sometimes I'm not thinking they hate me, But sometimes I
am thinking like they're boring. Oh, Like I'm thinking, like
this conversation is not that good because I'm not okay
during a conversation.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Like oh during a conversation or during a three way
during a conversation, okay, okay, yeah, well and that's fine
because they've got it. They've got it, they've got it.
You're like, okay, they're having their boring conversation, right exactly.
I don't have to engage.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, sometimes I'll do a performative yawn.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'll just be like.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
That's a key role that a friend can play.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
But I think more people want to be cocks than
they cosy cocks.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Okay, okay, I miss I missed the start of this.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
No you didn't, I didn't. That's pretty much pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, So do you think so you think there are
more people than are willing to admit it that want.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
To be cocked. Yes, yeah, I think the fear of
being like cheated on is actually a desire to be
yes cheated on? You know. And the last topic that
I brought when I was on cheating Yeah, this is
very straight.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I do think you're so right. Well, of course, everything.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Everything's I'm speaking of course, every big fear we have,
including like nuclear war, is a desire for that.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Ye, well that's the whole thing. I hate when people
are like we're living in the end time. I'm talking
about blurs, okay, Aadie and I. But people, it's like,
clearly you're just like a narcissist, like you kind of
want it to end. Like I was there, Yeah, I
actually was there when it ended. Yeah, so my story matters.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, that's also it's everyone thinks to living in the
worst possible time, and it's not because they have this
like incredible capacity for emphitheaic critique.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's because they.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Have literally main character syndrome and think they are in
the most what is called drive for death, yes, death
drive Yeah, yes, huh hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, right down right, that's really smart.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I have a question regarding you brought up half humor
in the workplace specifically, would you rather there be half
humor or no humor? Because one thing.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
This is interesting.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
One thing that's tough about the workplace is I get
the utility of half humor. Oh, absolutely, because you want
to be able to like it's like we're friendly.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
How how like Europeans are like either complain or are
are happy about how fake nice? Americans are like say,
everyone asking how's your day, but they don't really care.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know, my grandma used to do this is going
to be a visual thing, so.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Okay, close your eyes everybody on YouTube if you're driving.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Episodes full episodes available on our YouTube channel. My grandmother
used to do this. This is her impression of an
American and this is she to do this when we
were kids.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
She would go, uh.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Huh, she would like, nice to meet you. Yeah, she
would like do a smile and then immediately retract the
smile because it's so fake.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, wow. Impressions queen.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, she was an impressions queen. She is actually still alive, so.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Is it, but she lost her talent?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, would you rather have have not?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Not? That?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
The absence?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well this is you know, some would argue yes, yes that.
You know, that's sort of a New York versus l
a question.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Would those people's name be Sam Dagger?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Look, I don't I wish it would. Well, it's just
like that is like, would you rather people be like
overly polite but you don't know what they're thinking? Or
would overly kurt and but like honest? But yeah, and
I prefer Kurt be honest.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
And I also think, like when I think you do
the Sandra who like, no, I was so curt and honest.
I feel like the Sandra Huler interview cycle where she's
being like like cold and they're like, do you love
MESSI the dog and she's like it is a dog,
like yeah, yeah, I love that actually yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well my favorite bird of sore Huler world is how
they people keep trying to make jokes about the fact
that she plays a literal Nazi and zone of interest and.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
She refuses to laugh along.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
She's just like that is not funny, and.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Would you rather that's true?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's not funny by the way, She's like wait, she's
literally like, oh my god, I'm just not realizing it.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Wa talk about Blurg. I guess I'm a Nazi now,
So that's normal. Make it make safe, make it make sense.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Mke it makes sense safe.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
So here's my thing with half humor in the workplace,
is it is keeping people just well behaved enough that
they don't like it's very.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I'm so sorry. Yeah, yes, it's like it's.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
In fact, Neil, yes, because if because that is literally
what like the difference is between cube exactly, between cubicle
culture and bouncy balls.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
What sorry, what was so funny? Well, I'm not trying
to make fun of you, but you said it weird.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Weird cubicle.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, what did I say? You said, like cubical cubacal Like,
it's very cub It's it's more like cube, Condra, you
work in a cubicle.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh, yes, that's not funny.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Cubical cubicle.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, it's I wouldn't prefer fake fake half humor.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Recently, I said to someone, so I was talking about, like, uh,
going to high school in Greeces, and I was like, yeah,
but you know, I lived here in my early childhood's
I don't have an accent, and they go, I think
you have a slight accent. I was like, WHOA. First
of all, that's that's for me to decide, not you. Yeah,
but I guess I said the word cubical. Yeah, I
think that was it.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
That was such a deep Greek accent where we're all like,
ask George George to say cubicle. Wait before I got distracted, Yes,
care just about half humor in the.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Humor in the workplace. Now I'm worried that I'm not I.
I have to be the one to write this essay,
and now that I've said it publicly, someone else is
gonna write it. Gia Tolantino is going to step in
and write the essay.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
About half humor.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well, you know what, it'll be a good essay.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, hell yeah, Like I can do it.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Well, but but do you have but you can't do it?
Put your mind into it, right exactly, yeah, Ga puts
pen to paper. Well, that's just true. That's anyone else.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, Well, I'm okay, I'm committing that in the next
calendar year. I will publish my essay on half Humor,
and I don't care if it's in Barry Whis's substack.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's going to get published.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Wow, that's I'm gonna go right wings.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I'm like, no one else will publish you.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know, so col Okay, let's.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Cut the ship.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
The ship. So you have a show at Union Hall
or something. Yes, it's called Justus Gals, And it's sort
of like it's all like the like your funny friends,
Like it's just like listening to your funny friends totally.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, and this is a spin off of your previous
show LGBT l O L Right, yeah, yeah, I love
that show. Thank you. That was a huge hit.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, I mean it was a different time.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was. It was a different time.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I feel bad about like a lot of the stuff
that we said.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
But yeah, well the time I can't publicly talk about
a lot of it because of the lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
No exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Which is a blessing and a curse?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, monetarily a curse, but like public relations, why is
a blessing? I don't have a show at Union Hall.
I'm sorry. So you want to tell you we are
like some we're playing this weird game where we're like
not saying your show, and also that's fine.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's funny because we of course, to us it's obvious
what the show is. But I realized that the not
the whole point, part of the point of us talking.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Is to promote the show.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, not that it needs.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Not that it needs. Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
It is sold out.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
It is sold out, but we just added one more week.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh well, this is going to make all the difference
because I heard that one.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
That extra week actually is not so.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, that one the last week last week it sold up.
Until that last week you thought.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
You were like, you got really cocky, and you were like, wow,
it sold out extra week. Yeah, but it's everyone that
wanted tickets.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
They got up, they got them.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
They're good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
But yeah, oh Mary, if we're gonna be honest, for say.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
If we can be honest, if we can cut the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
And got the bullshit and be kurt and honest like
New Yorkers rather than the Los Angeles Los Angeles sort
of like talking.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yep, yep, yeap without.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
And we've both seen it.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Obviously.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Of course, here's the thing, here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
With the show with with this show is like every
superlative about it has been said and agree with all
of them, and I'm like, what original thing can I say.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
That will add to it?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, And also I know Cole can see through fake praise.
It's like so I'm like there's another layer where I'm like, Okay,
I think the.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Best thing you could say is enough has been said
about it.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh that's really smart.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And it's fine, and.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Enough's been said about it. It's good.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
No, no, but let's not no, but it is actually
it is one of those rare things that is in
fact as good as everyone says it is. And then
you're like, well, it sort of sucks that we used
up all the superlatives to talk about.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Like su salt burn, Yeah, soup and salt super and
salt burn.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah. No, it's an incredible show, absolutely groundbreaking. Yeah it really.
It just is You're one of the greatest we've got
and you know it, and you know it, and this
is such a perfect encapsulation at all and taste and performance.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
And you know, I say this as someone who gives
a lot of theater coal.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I go to very little.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm always I'm always this is a I get both.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
And yeah, and I'll tell you something.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
A lot of it is not good theater.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Theaters.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Theater is a lot of gorgeous theater.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
A lot of it is also good.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, but would you not agree that a lot of
it is not good.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I'm trying to You're trying to rewards right now.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Okay, so please campaign and campaign.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You know, I got it.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I can't burn any bridges.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Right, here's a question for you. So in this play,
oh Mary, you play Mary Todd Lincoln. Yes, if let's
say suddenly you're cast in a Marvel movie as bat girl, yes,
you have to leave the show. Who would you cast
to play Mary?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, I am, I am already like a thousand steps ahead,
like I can't wait for other people to play Really, yes,
I would prefer not.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You don't want to say yeah to be No, I
would for not to be.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Oh really, yeah, that's that's shocking to me. No, No,
it's exhausting. Well, I mean it's it's the most fun
I've ever known, Like hell, to be honest, I mean, yeah,
eight shows a week, it shows a week.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean that's what theater people do, you know, that's
what we do. Oh, we do that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, I have one podcast in a day and
I say, oh, yeah, I can't do this anymore. I
would love.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I've fantasized about Titus Burgess playing that is Mary Todd Lincoln,
Donna Murphy, Oh my god, should be amazing. The two
of them together sort of like every other word, you know,
like arms linked, like looking at each other instead of
like I mean you say something, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Any but like I would love.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
When I was in auditions for the understudy, I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
This is a good role for someone.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh, it absolutely is.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's so shocking to me really, just because it was like,
it's so you and it's so like you don't trust
my writing. What are you trying to say here? No,
it's it's hard to imagine. I'm sure it would be possible, but.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is something people have
been surprised or not surprised by. But you know, you
hear Cola Scola doing a let's say. I initially thought
it was like a solo show, like the one person.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's what I was hoping.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Like Now I'm sort of like, I'm sad that the
moment's over where everyone was like, oh, this is going
to be Cole throwing on a wig on a stage alone. Yes,
and then the surprise of it being a capital.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
That was planned, the surprise of it like you well.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, I mean I knew that's what people's expectators might be.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But I do think that is yeah, I mean that
is the big surprise where you're like, oh, this is
like full on a play.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah. Yeah. But the cast, the gorgeous of an actors.
I wish I could tell you any of their names
right now.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sweet people, sweet sweet people. They smile at me every day.
I just love them all.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
They respect all my boundaries, don't make icon tag, I
don't ask me how I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, and that's really. Have any of them been like
James Scully or Conras No, we haven't had unkly, none
of them.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Nobody so funny. Yeah, she's so funny.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Great. I saw her when I was eighteen, my first
year in New York, my first Christmas alone in New York.
I saw trans America and she that movie with She's
in Transamerica. Yeah, do you remember she goes I don't
even remember what it was, like a sex way party
or a Tupperware party. She's like the hostess of that party.
And then I saw her in Taylor Max five Hour

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The Lilies Revenge at Your Art Center. I was like,
she played a cuckoo clock and I was like, who
is she? Diva?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Dibbs DIBs mine?

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I sorry to ask the most base No, I have
only baseball?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Please why Mary Todd?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I just really feel like women like I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know. I really don't remember
because I had the idea in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Really whoa And it was basically like an idea that
was born out of just the humor of it, not
using like a history buff.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
No, no, no no. I just thought, like the idea
of me playing a historical figure like that, yeah was fun.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah. And then all those years later we finally got
to the Lord Tel. Are you like, are you like
super regimented right now? Like if you have to perform
eight times a week?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Are you like I really don't do anything besides like
uh yeah, I mean like sleep and then go to
the theater stretch stretch. I try to eat at four thirty.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
See this is after the show.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I try to eat two yeah yeah, yeah, but if
I'm not up early enough. I only get the one meal.
It's a difficult life. Here's a question, Bays, I don't
recommend it.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Do you feel are the endorphins such that after the show,
that's how i'd want to go out?

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh I know?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, no, never want to go right home?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Really yeah? Right to bed, hot creamy meal, right to bed.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Hot creamy meal. No, all dairy meal, right to bed.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I do need a life outside of it, because
otherwise the play can't be my only reason for existing.
So now I'm trying to find things to do. If
you have any suggestions at home, comment below on this
video and like it and subscribe and just send us
email and vote and vote and vote, please vote, vote

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for living in your local city elections.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
They matter, y'all.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Should we do it for a segment? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right, I think we have yeah, yeah, if anything, yes,
you please, please please? I have anything to get it
out of the way that we can keep talking.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
For you, of course, Okay, Cole.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,
we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire
questions es. Basically, this thing or this other thing to
gage you're familiarity with and complicity and straight culture. The
only rule is you can't ask any follow up questions
or will scream at you.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Okay, that reminds me of a story I've heard about
Shirley McLain.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Later later, okay, So.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I love these beautiful humans or I hate that ugly
ass tunic.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I love these beautiful humans. Cole curling up with a
good book or curling up with succession Zone Sarah Snook
curling up with a good book.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Tap water is fine or fap every day at nine
bap every day.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
At night after your all dairy meal. Yeah okay. A
body shaped like an hour glass or a potty molded
perfect to your ass?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Oh, body shaped like an hourglass?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Omm respectable?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Giving it up for your next comic, or living it
up before we all get hit by a comet.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Giving it up for your next comic, you have.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
To, okay, white gold or black mold, white gold.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I demand an appeal, or I don't understand her whole deal.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I demand an appeal. Being on the list or lancing officist,
lancing officist, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, I have an idea. What this is crazy?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I'm like, you know, Usually we rate our guest performance
on a scale of zero to one thousand doves. Here's
what I've been feeling recently.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
What have you been feeling?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Maybe that scale is over, Maybe we need to figure
out like a new way to rank I've been feeling.
I think, don't you feel like we've been sort of like, okay,
we've done every version of that answer.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
I guess I like you, but you.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
You see, this is what's great about But by the way, threes, Yeah, now,
I just I can I'm engaged, yes, but I don't
have to worry about having an answer right anyway?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Keep okay, so you just like directed us? Now I
feel like now not keep going?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah no, no, I'm watching and listening and just talk naturally.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You know, I did the number one thing you shouldn't do,
which is critique, but not come up with an alternative.
It's actually one of my life I am not and
I very much think.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Are you a younger sibling? I'm an older sibling. That's interesting.
Orse just like most things about maybe I feel like
that's a younger sibling thing you think?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
So, yes, I feel like at some point in my
life I was like criticizing. Criticism is a sign of intelligence,
and the more you criticize the more intelligent you are. Yeah,
and so you know, you go into and I think
it's a very childish.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Where in your body is that?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Sorry, this is only my therapist asked all the time.
And where in the body in your body do you
feel that.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
It's coming out of my head?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
What do you mean? I always say my stomach, my stomach.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, it's all those creamy meals, creamy meals both show.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I'm sorry I cut you. You were going you
you were talking about renovating the scale.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yes, right, book Alert, Renovating Scale, Weight Loss Journeys, Journey
on the Stage, Chapter one, Creamy Meals, Creamy Meals question mark.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, well I just wanted for the scale. I do
like that it is something that is truly from twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, and is like that we have stuck with for
seemingly no that sense.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
It gets funnier as it goes.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
And I think it's funny to think about literally being
like four years from now and still doing that and
people are like, what is.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
That even care?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, you've won it over.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
You've already won me over.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Beautiful. Wow, Wow, could Georgia get cast in?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well it's not musical?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, we still need to know you have range. I
guess it's musical.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
No spoilers, but.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
That was a spoiler. That was a huge spoiler.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
How do you feel.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
You can't just say you no spoilers after your spoiler.
That's not how it works. Do you think of yourself
as solutions oriented? Yeah? I actually like that.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, me too. Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm a complainer.
You're well, but you are a creator. And I don't
mean that in the sense of being an LGBTQ creator
making their voice heard. I mean that in the sense
you do. You're not someone who's like, oh, they don't
want me here, I'm going to cry about it. You're like,

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they don't want me here, I'm going to go I'm
going to make a better I'm going to make him better. Yeah,
I guess in that way, Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I I'm kind of like solutions bass.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
No I am, yeah, yeah, I think. Well, okay, so
it's sort of like fight flight or freeze, right.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, like, oh, I had never heard of the love
You've never heard of freeze. I've heard fight a million times.
You need to get back in.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Fight flight or freeze.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I love this. I might be freezingly Freeze. I'm freeze.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Oh God, to freeze identified gay cancers running a small
business together. Good luck, good luck making proper.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I think a lot of people are are freeze. I
think freeze. It just to me it makes the most
sense because I'm like, well, I'm not gonna run away,
but I'm also not going to start a fight. But
you don't know what to do. You're like, I can't
fight back.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm putting my body on the line by doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, I will say to you know, if there's multiple
freezes in a room, I think it's sort of you know,
it's like you might both be bottoms, but eventually, when
you're penetrating, someone's going to be topping. Does this make sense? Yes, yes, yes,
but if you aren't. But I feel like if we're
both freezes, there have been many times in our relationship
where you have been the one that is ready to fight.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's true in a good way.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
That's true, and I've gotten to keep my freeze privilege.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Freeze.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Wait, but this was related to be solutions? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Where like rather like there's complain, there's offer a solution,
and then there's leave. Right, I'm I'm more apt to leave.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Oh interesting, I'm more apt to leave as well.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, complain, yeah, solution or leap. I'm complain. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
There's just so if you're like, you're you're waiting for
a table for a really long time.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Oh yeah, I'm giving everyone dirty looks. I'm sighing dramatically,
looking at my phone, sort of going over to people's table,
knocking over all their food, calling them really offensive slurs.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes, yeah yeah. And then and you I'm sort of
like let's go, yeah yeah, Or I'm like it's like
like it's fine, let's wait.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
It's not worth it, it's not worth it. Yeah, And
I oh, you're less, You're generally less like willing to wait.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
For you prioritize comfort.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I guess what I'm trying to say, Like you pise
comfort over like waiting for the exclusive thing.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Would you say that?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah? I think that is true.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Whereas I'm like, let's say, I really want to go.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It's humiliating to wait. Oh my god, I'm.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
So sad, but you know what the reward is then
getting the table and watching other people wait and feeling
superior to them.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
You bring up a very good.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's up from my stomach.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I Also, I feel like the nice things are like
rarely worth it, like the pain of discomfort waiting and.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Waiting and pushed around.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
And what was the last thing.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
You waited for that you were glad.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
That I was glad? Hmm, God, I have no idea,
to be completely honest, it's been a long time I
had to wait in a line for anything.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
What's the last thing you waited for that was worth it?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
This is the most riveting segment. Let's yeah, let's really
no one has the thing they waited for.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I guess I just usually get things for free.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, olive oil gelato? Is that true?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I did wait for it. I was happy they waited.
Did you really have to humble yourself to wait for something?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
You know?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I also see, you know, in Los Angeles, California. Oh
my god, to be able to be right back. I
feel that I see a lot of people waiting in
line for random, random stuff. They sort of have like
cronut culture all the time.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Hey, that's sort of all they have.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, And so I'm when it's see some people waiting
in line, I'm like, Okay, well that's what I don't want, Like,
I'll never go to that place. It like almost looks
more unappealing because it's like probably just some gimmick or
was like written on some blog or something.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You're not going to trick me.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm actually a free thinker. Yeah, that's no.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well, there's two kinds of waiting, and one is like.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
There's only two, yes, male or female.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Exactly, So what's male waiting?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Male waiting? Oh god, okay, So I think one is
what you're describing cronut culture of like waiting for the
latest trend yourself. But it's also like it's also like blogger,
blonde blogger.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Sure, you know, big hat.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Big hat blonde blogger, waiting for the next trend. You
are so trend chasing, you have no personality. Your entire
life is changed sing things that other people are doing.
That's one second kind of waiting is that if you know,
you know, kind of waiting where you're in the know
and you're and you're part of this like exclusive you've
read the paywaald blog that's telling you the new thing.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah yeah, well they're both the same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Though you think so, and yeah one of them, one
of them.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You think you're better then, right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's not a bad point, you know, So I'll tell
you which one I prefer to be in of course,
but it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
We all just.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Want to be at the at the front of the line, right,
We all want to cut in line, don't we.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
We'll be right back and we're back. And that was
such a convincing we'll be right back. That was actually
terrifying because it.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Felt so real.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah. I actually was like, we need to throw to commercial. Yeah,
that's so fun. I could feel we don't even have
headphones on it. I was like, oh, yeah, anyway, how
are you really hot?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Creamy meals? When we return?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, you were telling me about all starts crying hyaterically.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, They're like, it's just been really hard. Wait, I
wanted to bring I have some topic.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yes, yes, yes, topic.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
You are like in charge of us, Okay.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
It is is like, so I was trying to think
of straight things, like straight culture things. Right. The phone
has like five cameras. Oh it's a Samsung Galaxy.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
It literally does have five.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Them are flashes. I'm just like that is too many.
You don't know what I'm up to.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It looks like you don't know what about You're filming.
You don't know what I'm up with independent films. Three day,
there's there's a poll at JFK Airport that has truly
like fourteen surveillance cameras on it, and it looks like
a commentary on the surveillance state. That's kind of what
your phone is.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, stop surveilling us. Well, uh, do you have anything
else to say? You mentioned Taylor Swift earlier.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Do you want to say you're bad? Oh?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Okay? What I was thinking, Well, I was thinking about
straight culture things, right, but I could only really think
of examples of things that are like straight trying to
be gay, like straight things that are influenced by gay culture,
like hotels, yeah, based on cruising, but based on based

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on cruising, based on piet tears. Yes, it's like, well
this is better.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Because then you can just leave.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And it's like, well that's the you took the fun
out of a Pieta tar, Like it's straight people, you know. Okay,
so hotels, salad bar because salad's gay culture.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
But salad bar.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
The salad bar is like but.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You can pick what you want, and you're like, you're
not improving on you wouldn't. I mean whatever, I go on,
ye baby carrots. Right, It's like, isn't it so funny
that they're like little? And you're like, oh, that's almost.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like you've never experienced happiness.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah. My favorite thing on earth is to buy baby carrots.
Never ever open the bag. I'm like, oh, this is
gonna be such a perfect snack with hummus. Yeah, and
then I just leave it there for until they get slimy. Yeah,
and then I'm I'm moving seven years later and I'm like, oh,
I have to throw these away now. Yeah, that's such a.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
What are people afraid of with just buying normal carrots?
I would really love to know. Is it the little
hairs that they have?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's the little hairs. It's sort of the like, well,
what am I gonna do? Eat a whole carrot?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, who has the time? What if I just.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Want to say, you want twenty five baby carrots, Well, you.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Can take as many as you want, and you can
put it back the big carrot. You gotta chop it up.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Oh my god. I mean there's nothing better than feeling
chopping up a carrot and then putting the leftovers in
a little zip bloc bag. Suddenly you feel like you're cooking,
you feel like you're doing cottage core.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
No. The way that I want every single thing I
eat to be pre cut into many of this.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Is like being a well I I hate doing dishes, Yes,
so I will buy.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
A pre chopped Everyone hates doing that. That's true, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Wait wait wait wait sorry, George, this is crazy. This
is crazy because I've never been able to talk to
this with anyone.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
But I hate doing dishes so much that I I
will buy the.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Pre chopped done Oh much. Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And David Sidaris has this thing in a book like that,
like his husband Hugh will will make like himself a
dinner like for one while he's alone, but he hates
going through. He would rather like use his finger than
like dirty a spoon, you know, and I feel the same.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, we've I've gotten in some hot water before with
our listeners because I talked about how I used the
same cup for.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
This was actually at a live show. I don't think
you've ever thought, wait, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Like I have a water glass?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, and you keep it by the sink.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I just did it. Gasps from the audience because you
said something. You said a phrase, an adjective, that I
will never forget.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Glass gets cloudy eventually cloudy. Yeah, but it's my glass
and it's fine. How many days do you think I'm
not go see? I I probably use the water glass
like two days. I'll go a little longer.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I probably used three water glasses a day.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
My immune system is so strong, and yeah, I use
one glass. Like, were you just in the hospital for
the that's not from immunity, that's not from an action.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Maybe out my god, I would love it if you've
got to beeB out and showed.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
After the studio.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
That would be incredible. But yeah, I literally like like
especially when we were in our apartment here and like
I would go, I would like, never wash it. And
then I would just like one day my cup would
be missing and I'd be like we should where the
hell is my cup? And he'd be like, well, I
washed it and then drying rag and I'd be like
I've been looking everywhere for it. He just surprise washes it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
My shock is like, wait, but it.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Gets cloudy because it's smudged and like lip and fingerprints.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Allever it you know, my nightly fiber.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Wait, this is the other thing that wait, you literally
put fiber in it, mix it, and then keep drinking
water out of it without re.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, it's water soluble, it gets it dissolves. You guys
are being so messed up.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
This is an audience of three hundred and fifty people
at the Mellhouse all walked out.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Well, George, it was in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, so
get your facts right because facts matter.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Well, I'm sorry for making you feel insecure again, although
it actually feels like you've never been more proud of yourself.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Well, I just you know, I know how the media
is gonna run with this.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
How how often do you do dish it?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Oh? Once a week? Same if I'm when I'm like
living alone, Yeah I once a week. Do them quite rarely? Yeah,
me too.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Sometimes things really start to small bad in my sink.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah. I'll also like, if I'm doing like takeout lifestyle,
I like, I'm like, well, I didn't use a dish.
We'll take out.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
But then but then I you know, a little cereal dessert.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Oh of course, I'm literally turning into like Trey's mom
from Sex and the City. I'm about to send both
of you to what is it called manners, manners, manners
Academy manner, Yeah, Manner's manner. Okay, so we have baby carrots,
we have hotels, and what was the third one?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Hold please salad bar salad bar salad.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Bar okay to me, I would like to unpack hotels
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, okay, okay, because you're staying in one now, actually
that's true.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Because I have a sub letter now yeah, yeah, shout
out to my beautiful subletters. And I'm staying in the
Pod hotel in Eliasburg. There's not a blind on one
of the windows, and it's like facing the street. This
is not part of the point. I'm just sort of
painting a picture.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, I'll see it.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And it's also like the rooms like whatever. I'm just
like people in the street are seeming naked anyway, who cares?
Who cares? Whatever? Lower East Side nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Don't tell people where it is.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Oh well it's on Metropolitan and okay.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, you won't be there anyway.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'll be gone by the time this comes out. You'll
be back, that's right.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
So you don't think hotels are I think they're I
think they're straight inspired by gay.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I think the straightness comes from the like sanitization of them.
Sure where it's like every room is the same, but
there's convenient. It's convenience that you can come and then
you can you can leaves offend like everything's like this
is technically a decoration, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You can on your wife here exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Well, it's based on gay because it's like a straight
structure is a family home, a family suburban home, and
anything the farther away from that you get the gay
or you get so a hotel, you are unmoored from
your biological family. You are in fact not in your hometown.
You are a visitor transience.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
And then also like concierge, like that's being like we
need a gay guy to tell us where to go
totally where.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
It's good to get Italian?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
A little queer, Yeah, where should were good to get Italian?
He's like they have the best catchup down the street.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Oh, here's what you're going to want to do. You're
going to want to go uptown by yourself.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
And then they like walk out the door and the
dad's like you hear that, boy?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, Like we do not have that at our house
back in Batesville, Batesville's small town next to goon Town.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Great girl. So yes. And then I also think the
thing that makes me tell straight is business conference culture
kind of because conferences and business trips are sort of
like the the life cruising of straight. Yes, yeah, like

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there is something. It's sort of like, take sexual liberation
and make it depressing, and it's like two people wearing
like a woman in a skirt suit and a man
who has like untucked get this his dress shirt and
they are flirting at the little open bar. And when
I say open, you got one drink for fan after that.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
And you have to present like your little ticket to go.
We're talking lanyard, lanyard.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
We're talking lanyard. We're talking salad bar. We're talking baby
carrots on dispaby carrots wow.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Display. Yeah, that type of environment, unfortunately still speaks to me. Well,
so I'm sure wish I could be. I love hotel. Look,
I love hotels. You're more than anyone, more than anyone.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I love hotels.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
The amount you hate dishes is the amount you love.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I mean, of course, the dream is like not paying,
like if someone could pay for me to stay at
a hotel. Yes, and I got room serve everything for free.
You just you don't have to you don't have any
of the responsibilities of your normal life.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, do our boutique hotels LGBTQ plus.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I mean this is complicated because boutik hotels are sort
of like anything that is kind of like gentrification adjacent.
It's like it starts how gay and then it becomes straight.
That's just for the circle of life. Yeah, it's like
saying like our I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Boutique hotels were like gay people trying to pull it back. Yeah, exactly,
and then straight people were like this is sorry.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
They were like, sorry, you're putting a jar here. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And also I'm secretly Mormon.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Don't you think that is like a circle. It's like
that you get gay gay gay gay gay, and then
you go right back to mommy blogger.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yes, but aesthetically yeah, so what do.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
You think the next hm mommy is mommy blogger?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
The new aesthetic?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I mean I sort of think are you going to
be seeing that on the runway? Are let's talk let's
let's talk fashion, let's talk fall fashion.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Finally, what are we going to be seeing, We're seeing,
we're singing mommy baby carrot, baby vehicle, hybrid vehicles, les,
salad bar.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
We're seeing tongs from the salad bar.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
We are cameras everywhere.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Everywhere where. It's commentary on surveillance, baby carrot earrings.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
No clothes, walk, walk and read this kindle.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
And a big make it makes sense in the sign
that Yeah, everyone.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
In America makes sense again.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Everyone holding fake protest signs like in the Kendle commercial,
but they all say different internet slang terms. Someone's holding
a science as blur. Someone holding a sign says the interwebs.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Huh wow yeah hashtag me thinks.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Thinks someone uh painted in blood the methinks movement is
over on their bare chest.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah, so what's something? Yeah, what what we're gonna see
on the run?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Well, like this, for example, what's so straight it's going.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
To be attacking me?

Speaker 2 (48:40):
No, I'm not attacking you. I'm merely suggesting maybe it's
time for you to be attacked.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
That. So, yeah, what's not what's to appropriate from straight people?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yes, Corla is playing into Sam's camo.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You know what I think it is Actually what old
Navy Core, Old Navy Core.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Is going to be now gay. Yeah, so you mean
ill fitting jeans.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
And like polar fleas best do you remember that, yes
performance Old Navy performance.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
And god the ninetieth could you see the like little
like a fourth of July T shirt that's like too small?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Hmm, wait, what do you mean fourth of July T shirt?

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Like America Old Navy always would put out like a
yearly fourth of July.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Oh, I've never.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Oh, I would wait every day on the third of July.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Just it was.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's like when they announced the met Golliff, I was like.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
What's this year's Old Navy fourth of July t o?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
My god, a little like plastic flip flop? Oh put
that on the right, baby, beanie babbies. I don't know
what do you think straight people are gonna or gave
people are gonna?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Okay, no, this is actually a really good question. I mean,
do you think it's been long enough flip flop wise
that Havayana's are gonna make an.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Iron What the hell is that?

Speaker 1 (50:01):
The plastic rubber flip flops with the Brazilian flag on them?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh? Sure, wait with the Brazilian flag. Yeah, that's the
one with the X. And then yeah, wait is this
not Have I never heard of this? Well, then I'm
showing everyone maybe in Greece. Yeah, maybe it didn't make
it over here.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, oh this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
It's so amazing that we're different differently. Wait, but what
I love that, George is like talking with yourselves. And
then we got.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Completely these No, these mean nothing to you.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
They mean absolutely nothing to me. I mean nothing to me.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
This is I've never I've never seen that woman in
my life.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I don't know her and I don't claim to know her.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Well, maybe they were completely euro and now Americans are
going to discover them warehouse.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Are we going to start going there? I actually, I
mean I think there's a world in which, like sort
of a nineties businessman's suit comes back.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
I think that's all right already back.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think, in fact, the issue is, at some point
it's gonna go back to skinny pant and.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I, oh, are we? Are we going back?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Because trends are so quick. Now you know, you think
you're safe. You think you're safe The.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Second I buy a pair of shoes, their last season.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Tossed them right in the garbage.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
The moment I get home, I remember how legally blonde
it literally it hinges on the gay guy being like,
don't you you know tap your last season prodat shoes
at me, and then she's like, last season product, last
season product.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
He's gay. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
It's a very my cousin Vinnie. Yeah yeah yeah, but
they're queering of that.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
We've we've been through the Sopranos.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, what's the girls?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Okay, here's something.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
What if it is like guy news radio gay guys
growing out their hair and having big blowouts growing out there. Yeah,
like they literally have Christian woman at the blowout.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
This is what's something that John really calls TV hair
where it's like it goes down, then it's Deborah mess
down and then like five curls in front and every
woman on television has that hair. So maybe the issue
maybe like next year are the three of us going

(52:23):
to be here with that?

Speaker 3 (52:26):
What if? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I do think that is kind of the last friend.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Here is more when we return, sorry and we're back,
and we're back and more when we return, these.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Gay guys welcome back.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
It's the only hairstyle gay guys haven't tried is long
beach waves.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Long beachways. Yeah, that could be something I don't think
that could be. No, no, I can't. I can't follow.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Well, that's why it's so, that's why this is, this
is where innovation is born. Is you think, oh, I
can't picture that at all, and then lo and behold
all of a sudden, Oh crocs.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
I get it, it's ironic. But they're like, I think
it's just going to be too hard for the upkeep,
the upkeep to commit to growing your hair out. I think,
you know, you know the gay guy lifestyle, so go go, go,
you know, And they just want something that's easy, messy bun.

(53:22):
They could do.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
As we've we've already done, done, messy bun. Oh, it's
crazy that we can't think of a single thing that's
going to be a new gay gay trend.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Somebody's got to think of one.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Cole, Well, my prediction. My prediction what sideburns. Remember I said,
the new facial hair trend. It's the only one we have.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
For a wig.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
But yeah, I had I had huge sideburns in high school.
Oh yeah, and blue black hair.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Oh that must have been pretty.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I was pretty out there.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I was willing to go there as a kid, you know,
Like I took those risks.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Do you find yourself slipping into that at as you're
like doing promo for the show?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
No, no, no, only like that character and.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Generally like the cliches of being interviewed, just being like,
you know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I knew I was spun No, because no one else
would would know that I was kidding. I see here
amongst family.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Dare I say, and you don't want to take the
risk of someone thinking or being arnest?

Speaker 3 (54:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Absolutely, Wait, I just realized I went to the Sistine
Chapel a year ago. Okay, to pray more on that later,
but it was I thought it was so ugly really, oh, because.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
They you know, they take they cleaned it in the nineties. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Oh, and the colors it's entury modern. Well, no, it's
like nineties Italian, like New Jersey Italian restaurant. Because it's
too right. It's so bright and like and.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
That's why I never watched my car and this is why.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
And I realized, like, oh, that's where that aesthetic came
from from, like nineties Italian restaurants, because the Sistine Chapel
had just been cleaned and it was like exciting, and
so then everyone was like, let's do that in our restaurant.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Nineties Italian restaurants are based on the Sistine Chapel. That
makes sense to me. That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
It certainly is based on good morning, Wake wake up, America.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I hope you're listening. Take notes, take notes. Okay, wow, wow,
this is what happens when you sleep.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
So when you go there and you're like, this is ugly,
you know what did that feel like for you? Were
you like, you know what, good because the church has
enough as it is, or were you like, damn, I
was really hoping to be moved today. I was really
hoping to be moved. And I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
My friend Claudia Odaugherty, who I was there with, fell
asleep in the Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I fell asleep in the Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
It was it was a long you just like, sit sure,
you sit down, you can sit down, you can sit down.
And it was this long, hours long tour. It was
so hot, and we were just like okay, okay, yes,
all this stuff, all this stuff, we just want to
see that damn roof ceiling.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Okay. And we got there and it was so like
warm and sleep and.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Then you're like okay, yeah, literally we had eaten like
six hot creamy meals and just like full of cheese.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
It's like a marathon. People were just handing you cups
of warm. Yeah, well that's too bad. Yeah it's okay.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I just wanted it, and.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
It is tough. That is something when you build something
up and then you're disappointed.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
By it, you know, any notes for the Sistine Chapel workers.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Keep it dirty. Stop scrubbing it, because they left a
little patch dirty to show you. And this is what
it looked like. And I was like, yes, the aging,
it was the filter that it needed. Yeah, a Valencia filter, Yes,
it was.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Which filter would I say it?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Oh my god, Okay, I would say New York. Honestly,
put the New York filter on this chapel.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
It'll really really be better. I know it sounds crazy,
but it's time.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I've only lived here for three years, but I do
actually feel like a New York like to get a
ninety nine cents slice. I'm like, okay, to be fair,
she's right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
I feel my family has never visited, and I don't
ever want them to because when I see people with
their families, like on the train or like walking around,
it's painful, no, it makes me so angry actually, or
it makes me it makes my heart hurt. Yeah, because
the you're immediately a child when you're showing your parents

(57:50):
the city and you're like, this is my city, mom,
look like we like I just like eat here every day.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
And it's really Also it makes you to show your
surround to anyone really puts into focus how like uninteresting
most daily lives are. It's like you're showing.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Someone the coffee shop where you get your coffee.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah, like they have a really good cortado here, I.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Like, and your mom's like, my niece, can I can
I sit here?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
My knees backed an up?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
They're like, oh.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Like, mom, me and my friends never sit. Never sit.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
You don't sit in New York, Mama.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I like my parents. The first time they visited was
like I was maybe twenty five or something, and I like,
in retrospect, I am so embarrassed by the places that
I was like, you have to see this, yeah, because
it was just like smack.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
It's like all macaroni and cheese restaurant.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
And like being like, no, this bar is really cool. Yeah,
And it's like why would they ever want a bar?

Speaker 2 (58:52):
They like dive it just has the same feeling of
like parents weekend. I mean, there's a specif I went
to college, but I understand the there's still time, There's
still there's still time. I didn't get that degree.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
How woud you cancel? That?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Shows there is, of course, nothing more moving in terms
of storylines than older women going back.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Oh my god, I mean this is not the same thing.
But Margot Martindale in Paris, Tom you know, going on
that trip to Paris by herself. Oh my god, I
don't remember that one.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I have seen.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
She's an older woman.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Well, she's a woman of a certain age, she's a
male carrier at home, and she's started taking French classes
late in life. And then she goes she's always wanted
to go to Paris.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
I'm gonna cry, you know what, I George, I feel
that you an apology for what because when Cole says,
you know in whatever, I say, beautiful, But if you
were to bring it up first, I would go, okay, okay, genius.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
And that time is like to me, it's such a
sort of like almost embarrassing part of like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Like I only know Margot Martindale's part. Yeah, I've only
seen that one clip. Yeah, okay, I've only seen that
one clip. I don't love it, Like I'm not like
watching it, like I've never watched like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Time Is, Like, mommy blogger, I think it's that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, that's why I think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That's part in Parisia Town, which we don't like, but
we do know that like John Galliano being like it
was inspired by Margot Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, well yeah, so Carrot Baby, carrots, carrots or hotel
or hotels.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
No, we're doing hotels.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
We're doing hotels.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
All right, we've.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Covered conferences, we've covered cruising, we've covered home away from home,
get a tear. We haven't a gay guy telling you
where to go, the guy telling.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
You the literal straight couple going to a hotel and
instantly feeling like they're being sorted and kinky because they're
not in their house.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Well, and then of course the disappointment that comes after
that of wherever you go there you are wow looking around.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Wow, I guess we're actually not having By the way,
can we talk about the Bible lit the Bible in
every room? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Wait? Why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
That's why they started Bautique Hotel so they could put
in a different but they were like, yeah, Sally Rooney, Yeah,
the Bible is I always think it's sort of charming
that there are these leftover like Bible in a hotel room.
To me is very like left over from a different
era in a way that I do when men held
the door, men help.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I think we're going to be seeing men holding the
door open for you on the runway this season.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
We're going to see men.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Door open around the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Clean chapel, celings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Clean, just guys being guys being guys, falling asleep in
a stunning tourist destination.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I think this is obvious. I feel the the
thing that gay people are gonna appropriate is Bible chain
hotel Hilton. I think boutique hotels as like a fantasy
is dead. It's like we are post Instagram. This goes
along with the now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm like, if I'm ever on a red carpet, I'm
gonna wear a dress made up you know that credit
card dress. Yes, Hilton honors.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Car also gig chic gay guys like that work in fashion,
getting married ironically in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
A Hilton, I mean, I mean like overhead lighting Hilton.
There's something chic about that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah, terrible carpet, Like the carpet is so old.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Yeah, what are those called?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
The like the buffet, like the hot hot bar, the
hot bars, like those little torches.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah, it's like she gay guy wedding and the food
is a hot bar with like little sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Links, sausage links.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Me, it's breakfast, it's breakfast for dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's breakfast for breakfast for dinner, hard scrambled eggs, sausage links.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Wedding wedding donuts, meal meal with all the fixes, raisins,
brown sugar, almonds.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
One serving fruit loops that you take off the little cover.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
And but but instead of fruit loops, it's like the couples,
like you know, like the little wedding rings, Jared and
and Emery or whatever their name is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
And it's it's funny because it's like fruit loops.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, and it's that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
I'm laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
They talk about blur. It's bring your kids, bring your kids,
which is which is Yeah, that's bold, that's bold. I
think that we're going to be this season on the right,
We're going to see bring.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Kids fruit loops.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
But they're gay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
The name Emory, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
The name memory is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, Hailton honors dirty carpet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
But I do think there's something to this because, like,
you know, we've talked about the how we're in the
Martini and mush peas era, and I think the next
step of like what is gross that we can just
pretend isn't anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
It's because I tell food culture.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Yes, I think that's definitely one direction for the modern man.
I almost think we've now gone so far into like
appropriating trashy stuff direction that being a full on pretentious,
little pinky finger up gay guy is gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
But I think with with a with a with an
eye towards like like remember those commercial I keep seeing
these on the algorithm, the like Vienna coffee, like the
little powdered Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
The little coffee that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Comes in like instinct coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
No, wait, hold on, is this your version of whatever
that sandal was?

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Oh my god, Oh I'm not. You know, we're all
living in our social media bubbles.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, I'm thinking like, uh, like stuff that was marketed
as fancy that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
You know, like the you know what. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
What's a great example of this is the cheese like
the you know those round red.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Cheeses, Baby Bill is that yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah yeah, don't you feel like that was at some
point market it is like fancy yeah yeah yeah yeah,
or now we.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Know it's like Briars ice Cream was very like like
Bernadette Peters and the commercials, like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
I guess basically it's sort of it's sort of Wasp
Upper East Side Wasp culture.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
That you can get at the super you can get
at the supermarket.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, sure, like v like what was that ice cream cake?
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
That had like ribbons? It was like ribbons of ice cream. God,
now aging myself here, No, I'm aging myself here. We're
gonna this season on the Runway, aging yourself yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I also think no more minimal minimalist flatwear, and uh, I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
See what you're saying. You're it's sort of Capodi Swans.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Yes, it's this season on the runway Swans, no flat
no simples at the supermarket, Cappodi.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
This one's at the supermarket in your ice creaming y yeah,
or like the fancy like TV Dinners was like you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Want you know, no, I know, like like that was
like uh like that's what that's what we're gonna see
on the right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I mean, it's them from a conservatism because it's literally
like when America you know, in the public imagination when
America was great was mad Men era.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Well, but this is I'm even thinking of the nineties
when those things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Jealous. That's sort of They've tried that so many times
and it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I love jello salad though, I love it, love it,
love the taste. Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Yes, it's just jello and is one of your characters.
It's jello and cool whip.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I have a disgusting sweet tooth. Really, I love ambrosia salad. Oh,
this is on the run. We have bronia fruit cocktail
with uh cool whip basically whoa and uh and sometimes
marshmallows and shredded coconut. Some people would do like pistachio

(01:07:28):
pudding packet, like the powder from the pat putting packet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Mix it in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
You know what's always in pustachios.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
These foods are giving.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
You've got me there, they're giving Grandma.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
I love Grandma. Shout out to Grandma.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, well look yeah, we've figured it out so pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Co Where can people buy tickets to your play?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Well? Oh Mary, ohmaryplay dot com for the last week.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yeah, May fifth through twelfth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
And May twelfth, must and must and May twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
To be candid, this episode will come out when it's
already sold out most likely.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Well that's true, and that you don't know. Okay, that's okay,
that's okay. But maybe there will be one ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
There will be one ticket left. D m us No,
please don't know. Just DM me. I can text call
We'll figure it out. We'll figure it text call, we'll
figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
If you listen to this podcasts, you can get it getting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
There for free.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, and that's a stradio promise call.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Do you think theater is too expensive? Yes, but say that,
but it's also expensive to make. Oh okay, all right, okay,
well considered, I don't know how yeah, how they do
it in London? Then they don't pay people. Well do
they pay people in New York?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
They not?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
From what I've heard, it depends on these damn unions.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Oh my god, don't get me started.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Help Well, I do think Well, the government subsidize in
in in more in Europe, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
It was funded by the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Correct are we talking about that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Because like from what I remember, it was a government.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Why is it wrong? Like it's not okay?

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
And you said you wanted to change it from the inside.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
What I understand?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, Like, how's that like?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Like she's willing to listen. She gave you a lot
of notes on the early versions of the show. Yeah,
she did. It was she has a great eye. She
has a great eye. She's like she doesn't no matter
what your politics are, honey, yeahnny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
People forget that about Evanka.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
She's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
She'll always she's like Burg, Like between every scene she's
like Burg and like okay, Yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
I did notice the blurg in your play, and I
thought it felt it fell out of place, but it
also felt.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
That that was an Avanka note.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, the rest of it had a very specific tone
I recognize as quintessentially coal. Then there was a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Big monologue that so I guess I'm an adult.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, there was a sort of you kept saying, should
I get bangs?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
That was the punch that was okay, maybe that's a premise. Yeah,
I mean, I'll never forget when Abe got shot in
your play and you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Make it make it makes sense, It makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yeah, And then and then you're like, all right, well
the moment's landed, next scene starts, you go, so I
guess that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
I said, okay, like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Some of this could have been very long.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
But it gets laughs every look the audience doesn't isn't wrong.
They eat it up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Oh look, I wish it were much much cheaper to
see theater. But I didn't understand the economics of like
if a show costs something and there are only so
many seats, well, of course I didn't realize, like, no, for.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
The issue is not, yes, the issue is that none
of it is subsidized by the government. And yes, like
in other countries, it's not that like people are evil
and want to rob you blind.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Right, although I do you know, this is my first
ten million that I'm making right from.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
This, right right. Congrats on that, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well Off Broadway is where you go
to like cash in, cash in, like I've worked hard,
you put in the time, I've put in the time.
I'm ready for that summer house. I'm ready for like
like first class tickets and like knowing that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
About yourself is like a huge part.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It's a huge part of Off Broadway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Because like a lot of people like just don't even
have the like they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Afraid of that success absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
And you're just like running towards these people go to Broadway,
so sad. Yeah, I feel bad for them. I do too. Losers.
Who's the biggest loser on Broadway? Go?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, who's the biggest loser on probably audiences?

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Tim Tim Tim Tim Gun is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
The biggest loser on broad Oh my god, yeah, like
so wrong as Roxy, Like just yeah, the name on
everybody's lips, the name on everybody's lips is gonna be Rocky.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Okay, this season on the Runway, we're seeing Tim Gun.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Tim, we're seeing walking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
This season on the Runway, we're seeing Tim gunn walking
as Roxy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
I'm giddy about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I'm giddy about that's a great well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Maybe this is my oh Mary, oh Tim Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That would actually bekes sort of a good idea.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Tim Gun. You know, everyone loves him America's most beloved
sort of father figure. But then there's so much happening
behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Are we Yeah, where's that phantom thread? Yeah? Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
You know I have to say about Tim Gun to
be serious for a second, with all these gay guys
that sort of transcended and became you know, almost like
symbols from Middle America. He really has it, more so
than any of the queer eye guys. More like, I
really do have a deep respect for Tim Gunn.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Do you do you not? No? I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
You like, there's something actually very dignified about him.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Well, he has a he knows when to pull away, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
And he's also you can tell he's actually he knows
when to pull out, which is before you heard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
It here first. This worries me after he comes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
This is my presion of Tim gun after he comes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
This words more Grandma.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, this season on the run Way, pulling Out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
We're gonna see pulling Out. We're going to see Tim
gun is Roxy. We're going to see Tim Gunn Hilton Honors.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Okay, Oh Mary is a huge No no, this is
a no no, No, it's not it's not it's not barely
a one person show, oh Mary. Okay, Tom Broadway for
twenty five years. At this point, you're long, you know,
you're you're living in Malibu, whatever. If they've started stunt
casting it, like Roxy, who is your ideal? Like like

(01:14:25):
reality star trashy star stunt cast for it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I don't watch, but but.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
You know it can be understand, it can.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Be like okay, okay, okay, okay, Rachel Ray. That was
the first thing that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Came to mind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Wouldn't she perfect like a voice like Abraham? You know, wow,
Rachel Ray.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
That would be so amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
She would do it in those curls.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Did you see her episode of the Curse, Yeah, The Curse.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
She's literally she plays herself in a very like no no,
this before Yeah, no, I think it is this in
on the runway. We're seeing Rachel Ray Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
As herself on HBO's The Curse. Showtime Showtime, Yeah, Showtime. Sorry,
excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Sorry, it's okay, it's Showtime back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I don't know, I don't know if any of them
about its Showtime back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Yeah, are any of them back?

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
I'm talking to the exact right. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Sorry, I think Showtime's definitely back. I would love to
work with them. Oh, we would love to work with
Showtime of course.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
However, only if they're back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Only if they're back. I want we go into pitch.
We're like, I want you to prove that you're back
before you hear this pitch. Are you guys back, because
I'm not saying the numbers don't really speak for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Tim Gunn and Rachel Ray, Grace Green like that should
have been what it was. It should have been, Tim
Gunn and Rachel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
You actually are so in the sense that it should
have been a loud like party girl, loud party girl,
raspy voice, and then like an a guy with trauma.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, like Tim Gunn, is who the character of Will is?

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
But then you know NBC got involved and said.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Well, let's not make it too let's make him a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah, exactly, designers Rachel Ray. Now, Rachel, what exactly is this?

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Well, Tim, it's a jealous Hoalen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I mean the pilot writes a yeah, he last me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
What do you mean extra virgin?

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Tim is like, honey, I'm an extra virgin. Wait, no,
I'm becoming Samantha.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Should we do our final segment?

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Call any last thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Hotels or baby carrots.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I just I really appreciate you filling out why hotels
are straight. I appreciate it because I came in with
an idea and I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
I just didn't hold water yeah. Yeah, that's so hard.
It's really hard, and we put our guests through hell,
but we do it for you. Thank you, thank you,
So you can promote that last week.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Of Oh Mary of Mary oh Mary play dot com.
I just checked zero tickets out for that week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Zero.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Well, there's student rush or not student rush, just rush rush.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
We took the student out because anyone can rush.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Anyone can rush, not just students, not just This is
what I tell people all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
It's like you never stop learning and you never stop rushing. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
We're always on our phones, so true, Rachel.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Okay, well you true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this
segment we pay homage to the classic straight tradition of
the radio shout out. Think Z one hundred. You're shouting
out to your squad back home, think TRL and you
know it's in the great tradition of this podcast. We
think of them on the spot. So I'm trying to
think of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Now I have one. Okay, oh okay, what's up preak
losers and perverts around the globe. I want to give
a huge shout out to Hotel TV. I love the
lack of choice and a Hotel TV offers me. I
think there's too much choice in the world, and sometimes
I just want something to be like watch this because
you have to you. That's talk about the only way

(01:18:49):
I'll find something randomly and without having it perfectly curated
to my likes and wants. Last night, I, for the
first time in my entire life, watch an episode of
King of Queens. I would never seek the show out,
no matter how much Robbie Hoffman says it's good. I
don't care. And I watched one episode and I said, yeah,

(01:19:11):
I mean, I'm not gonna watch more. But I enjoyed
this twenty minutes. And sometimes that's all you need when
you are traveling. So Hotel TV you make me feel
like it's the nineties. You make me feel like I'm
being tied down and forced to watch something I don't
necessarily want to, and you make me feel free through

(01:19:31):
that restriction.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Wow, that's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
How was King of Queens really good?

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Really? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
It was fine, right, I mean it was like Lea
REMONI I guess right, Well, yeah, for of the best
you can hope for.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I was friends with JL. I was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Yes she is she is but close. Oh you didn't
know that. They're like like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Oh, yeah, I know, they're like the thing, a whole
yeah thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Oh, it's kind of like, isn't there a one more
that's like in the group?

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Who is it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yes, but I don't remember. I was about to say
it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Donna Michelle Michelle? Yes? Is that true?

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yes, yes, yes, But it's like how Madonna and Debbie
Mays are are really close friends?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Yeah meaning.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
No meaning no, no, no, no meaning yeah, they're huge lesbian.
Oh no, they're not saphic saffic in it? So they are,
aren't They're not sappic. No, she has a hot Italian husband,
Debbie does. And Madonna, you know, she's working through a
lot of issues that she's doing great on and we
support her, and we support her. I would die supporting her.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Okay, y'all yeah I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna do mine. I've actually already mentioned
this on a Patroon episode. But you know what this,
I'm gonna unpay wallet for this episode exclusively. What's up
frequent travelers, any Delta sky Miles members, Hilton rewards. You're
gonna want to hear this if you're ever on a
del the flight. I have the plane movie for you.
It's called She Came to Me, and it is starring

(01:21:04):
Marissa to May as a tugboat captain with a sex addiction.
I repeat, a tugboat captain with a sex addiction. You're wondering,
is that like a comedic bit?

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Is it ironic? Nope, tug boat captain. I repeat, tugboat
captain with a sex addiction. And if you think it
stops there, you better believe. It also stars Anne Hathaway
as a therapist who wants to be a nun, and
one of her patients is Chris Gethert. Now this movie
came out, I would say last year. Not a single
soul has talked about it. Written and directed by Rebeca Miller,
Arthur Miller's daughter. I am telling you, get on a plane, now,

(01:21:34):
book a flight, impressed, play on She Came to Me.
The message of the film is love wins. And by
the end I was moved. Shout out to everyone involved.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Who Wow, they only let you watch it on a plane.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Yes, I don't. I haven't seen it available anywhere else.
I think the Millerists Arthur Miller estate has a special
contract with Delta Airlines where his daughter makes movies for
the Delta plus a platform.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Actually wow, yeah, well that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yes, nothing I said is a line.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I'll watch on the Delta flight back to Alert.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I think it's crazy that that movie exists, as I
just describe it, and like it hasn't become like a meme.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
I mean, but there's so much. It's actually so sad
because you know that, like that's what they were almost
hoping for. Yeah, or maybe they weren't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
No, I don't think they were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Yeah, when they should have, because then it would have
gotten been bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Yes, they needed a gay guy. They needed a concierge.
Oh is he a concierge, baby boy? Gay baby boy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah. He recommended a few restaurants to me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Let's just say, let's just say he got us a reservation.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
He recommended the Fennel Cellar.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Okay, I think, okay, what's up, moms and dads. It's
your girl here who sets her alarm clock for six am?
And I'm would like to shout out Dove Chocolate. Dove Chocolate,
a little treat. It's it's a little more expensive then
you're gonna but then you're Hershey Bar, but when you

(01:23:09):
want to treat yourself, go for Dove chocolate. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Is that the one that has little inspirational like little quotes?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Do you feel it helps you in your day to
day life to be well?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
When I was a kid, that was one of those
things that I thought was fancy when I was like,
because it's not hers, Because it's not Hershey's. And also
the commercials worked so well. The commercials were very like
the woman like rewarding herself, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no that makes sense. Okay. The
way that women eat chocolate and media is it's I
feel like I'm missing out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
It's done harm for generations.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Yeah yeah, it's literally why we will never have a
living president. Yeah yeah, Like she could only come.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
She has a little a little cube.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Of chocolate in her mouth, and it's just because.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
This season on the Runway, a woman with a little
cube of chocolate.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
And it's just because straight men want to see women
come totally, and they're just like, what if the chocolate
did it for her?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Because she likes the taste so much.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Yeah, she's such a bitch all day and then she
puts that little square chocolate in her mouth and she
just fucking combs like, yeah, how about that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I feel like it's almost like the opposite, where it's
women being like, well, he's not gonna make me come,
so I need something to.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Make me Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
So is it a female empowerment or disempowerment? Yeah? Question
more when we return.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah, all right, and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
I see you next time after the break. That could
be many years. All right, Well, thanks for doing the pod.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Please, thank you for promoting the last week of Oh
Mary playing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
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in Touch girl.

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