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January 21, 2025 • 85 mins

Hootie-hoo, Glamour Girls! George and Sam TAKE OVER THE TECH WORLD at San Francisco Sketchfest. The amazing Amy Schneider (winner of 40 consecutive games on Jeopardy!) and the hilarious Moshe Kasher (The Endless Honeymoon Podcast) join them, need we say more??

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who do you who? Everyone, Today, we are releasing our
live show from this past weekend at SF sketch Fest
featuring Mosha Kasher and Jeopardy icon Amy Schneider. We are
so gratefully both did the show, and we're so happy
you guys sold out Cobb's Comedy Club. We had such
a great time in San Francisco. Huge shout out to
the whole sketch Fest team for having us, and to

(00:20):
motion Amy for being so game and just so funny
and generous and smart. It was a really, really lovely
night and a great weekend before this insane week And
so we hope you enjoy the show. We love you,
and we'll be back with normal episodes next week.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Bye.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Podcast starts starts now.
And guess what I did that wrong. Let's take it

(01:14):
from the top. Live show starts now. The one thing
Sam said to me was, so we're doing live show
starts now? I said, correct, correct the window.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I meigo, why would I need to ask?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Why? Why would you need to tell me that?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
First of all, how's everyone doing?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
What's up you guys? I just want to say your
city has had such an amazing effect on the world
globally and politically, and it is an honor to be
here celebrating your achievements tonight. Congrats to us, all, Congrats
to us all. Congrats on a TikTok band. You guys

(01:56):
did that. You did that, We did that. We're not
going back. I can't wait. We're so we're really pro
TikTok man on a pod. Is it because we've never
quite cracked it?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okaybe no, that's not why it's that. Couldn't be it.
It's just because we love Instagram reels so much. Yeah,
it's I have no hate for TikTok, I just love Instagram.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
We just think Mark Zuckerberg is like a better entrepreneur
and he deserves a success more than whatever that other
guy's name is.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Plus his makeover is awesome. Yeah wait, that's.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Coming up later. But we're so pro Mark Zuckerberg's makeover.
He looks so fucking hot, you guys. I wish he
was here.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I learned something kind of groundbreaking today. George has met
Mark Zuckerberg.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Yep, better believe it isn't that weird? Yes, real resounding, Yes,
you know you know the content. Thank you for having context.
Queen in the house. Get this, we have a context, diva.
Get this, Diva. I worked at Facebook.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
He's one of you, over a decade ago, over a decade,
back when.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Back when Facebook was still.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Punk, back when Facebook was still punk. And the big
controversy my first week. Let me know if you remember this,
I know this is a gen Z slash Gen Alpha crowd.
The big controversy in my first week there was the
Emotional Contagion study, which is when they gave some people
negative content and some people positive content without asking for

(03:43):
their consent, and then they like saw how that affected them.
Doesn't that seem so quaint? Can you imagine? That was
like a month long media cycle. Now now they're murdering
people anyway, So how.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Did they risk on in the office? What was the
vibe like?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, I walked in and I said no more of
that and not enough, and they made me VP of Emotion.
So that's happened. So that happened. So that's happening tomorrow.
TikTok is going blank. It's on Sunday whatever, I'm on
New York time. It's after midnight for me, and then

(04:23):
and then Monday and Monday we have the inauguration. So again,
congrats you guys, you guys, congrats all of that. It's
going really well. What else was on our mind?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
It's funny because like I really I still want to
dig into this TikTok thing a little.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Is anyone here sad about it? Is anyone here happy
about it?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah? The hell I thought this was a tech town.
You guys have moved on. You guys are like TikTok
is so like it's so like I feel like here
they have already have a different a VR hologram app
that they're all doing.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
George, I have to tell I think, I think I
have to tell you something.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Tell me.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So what I was about to say was that this
that was a very divisive response, and I realized something
today that I think you guys will resonate with you all.
When someone says, at least I sparked a conversation, they've
lost the argument.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
When someone says, well, I've created a dialogue, yeah, that
means they've made zero points. I'm kind of obsessed with
it as like, well, good or bad? We're speaking, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Good or bad. San Francisco's the land of contrast, and.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I find that to be so so powerful. So it's
like that TikTok thing. I was like, Wow, no one
can say we didn't start a conversation tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
But don't you think that's like them? That is what
social media is. It's like, well, they're all talking, that's
what When Mark Zuckerberg is doing his is at the
congressional hearings, answering questions, They're like, are they murdering? He's like, yeah,
but they're talking. I love that. We're a tech podcast. Yeah,

(06:04):
We're a tech podcast and everyone loves it. Wait. We
also wanted to talk about how this is so far
the worst year ever. Thoughts, how's everyone's year? Is anyone's
zero off to a good start? Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes? The context eva?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh oh do you I'm so shocked that the context
eva has had a good year because I feel like
it's not a good year for context. Do you guys
think twenty twenty five is good for Do you think
context is in or out? In twenty twenty five? Out out?
But here's the thing. To me, the peak of no
context was Kamala is Brat And so now I think

(06:42):
the fact that the fact that people rejected that means
there was hunger for context, but people don't know where
to look, so they're like him, like, you.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Know, I think, no matter what, no matter who wins
the election, at least we're talking about context.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And by the way, by the way, yeah, we're still
talking about the election as if it hasn't happened. It'll
happen when we say it does. They haven't finished counting
the votes, you guys.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Seriously, if we all get on our phones right now,
we can change a vote.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Who's voting late? Do you guys vote late? So okay,
twenty twenty five, we were literally recently actually having a
conversation about what is one good thing that happened in
twenty twenty five? And you famously said, I've been sleeping, well.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Spilled, I have been sleeping so incredibly well start to finish.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh wow, what else? There was one more thing? Oh no,
all right, what context queen?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Context Queen says, what context Eva says?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
What new insult just dropped? Wow? Damn. I like the
idea of context Diva being potentially even a government position
that you can be elected to. She's running for you know,
she's running for context Diva. She was controllers so she
would be pretty good at it. She's just used to
context and things being in or out of it. So

(08:10):
this is actually kind of a big idea. I think
context Diva how localize? Are we thinking?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, I think we need the one on the state
and national level.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
No, because here's the thing. Sometimes you know, you'll get
Kamala talking, You'll get Frum talking. There's no context. We
need someone to come out. She's wearing a pinstripe suit,
she's a lesbian, yes, and she opens a book. I
think it's an amazing idea.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I mean, I do think calling you know, essentially we
have context Diva's already.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
In the historians.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Sure, but I guess it's like so I hear a
historians and I'm like, no, yeh, get you know.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
What else I do that for journalists? Like context Like
who's academic? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (08:55):
I'd rather jump off a cliff. I'd rather jump off
a cliff. But when I hear context Eva, I'm like work.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But here's the thing, I'm almost like, it ruins it.
If she is elected democratically, Not to be anti democracy,
but it's like, guess who's else is elected democratically? All
the other losers that she's in charge of keeping in
keeping track of.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, there will be no ethics in the context diva industry.
I think what it should be it should be, Is
this good?

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think the context diva should be more of a
spiritual position.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, of course, I think you should almost be in churches.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
And I think when you're speaking like say, like the
spirit takes you, you can be context diva.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh you can be like actually it was like this
in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I see. Well, here's the real dark darkness of all
of this. Guess what democratized being a context diva. TikTok
you open TikTok, you open one of these social media apps. Folks,
everyone thinks they are context diva these days, so much

(10:12):
so there's so much context that we exist without any context.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Or being overly context being overly.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Maybe the issue all along wasn't that we lacked context.
It was that we had too much context and not
enough content.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
George, can I be completely honest with you? That was
context Diva.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
But suddenly I saw, because here's the thing kt Tunstaul
original context Diva.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Are you ready for this? Oh? I'm scared? Actually, content creators.
All right, get ready, content creators, what are they actually doing?
Just commentating? They're not creating anything original. They're actually context creators.
What content creators are doing are taking existing content and saying,
you know, in the nineties, you know Kate Moss like

(11:10):
walked in this runway and then she did this, and
that's not content. They're actually just creating context. So all
we're doing is we have a pre existing content. No
new content is being made, but we're just recontextualizing it
and recontextualizing it based on everyone's weird little biases. George,
thank you, context Diva.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm like, I'm like, g George, you're scaring people.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
There was a moment when it really felt fire and brimstone.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Do you feel like I'm making a point that felt accusatory? No, no, no,
no no, I genuinely can't tell.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I think you are making a point. It's just like
it's getting complicated because I think we're forgetting that we're
at a comedy show.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So this is a podcast about straight culture, and what
usually happens is we'll think of different topics and I
guess you could say contextualize them based on whether they
are straight or gay? Would you say that's correct?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I would say that's one hundred percent correct. Context Diva.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Is that Context Diva? Do you agree?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Shure, they make attention.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
This has been notarized by the context Diva.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh my god, you are wh.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Did everyone see that?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
That was insane? Not to be a bitch but I
called that out?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, no, you did. That was crazy. So I'm having
such a difficult time because I just want to theorize
context EVA for another hour and a half. And I
know that no one wants that, Okay, but keep going.
So we're basically we're gonna we each thought up some
sort of straight topics and we want to run them
by you, and we want and maybe debate even with

(13:01):
one another, and and sort of talk through what's gay
and what's straight that we're noticing in the world.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
And I'll start go, I have something that I think
is very straight, and I it is having a sweet tooth.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
This is this is interesting. This is interesting.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
I think having a sweet tooth is extremely straight because
because the LGBTQ plus people, we have addictions.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah yeah, it's like commit to something.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
It's like ooh, I love chocolate. It's like my friend
is on meth. Like when when I hear like.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh, I have such a sweet tooth, I'm like, you are, like,
have you ever been out of the house?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Having a sweet tooth is like microdosing being bad? Yeah,
your entire religion is should we be bad?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Having a sweet tooth is being like I shouldn't say it, but.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Fuck yeah, it's like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah it's I.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I literally couldn't think of something more humble, something more
like I haven't been out of my home?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, okay, having a sweet tooth.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
But you know I have to I have to give
a little context you. I just came to mind because
I did hear a gay guy say it.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, of course, I mean listen on the other you know,
to play Devil's Advocate context eva, if you will. On
the okay, that deserves an applause. But on the on
the other side of things, not too late. On the
other side of things, there is something about having a
sweet tooth that gives Sorry, gay guy, adult living with
his mom. She's asleep, He's going to the fridge, don't

(14:42):
you think. And I have to tell you the context
is that this guy had a he was a gay
guy with a Southern accent, so he would say I
have such a sweet tooth. Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
And and by the way, he studied well fully nude
of course, right, So that's important.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Contact There's something about being in the South that really
brings out the horseshoe theory. You know, things, straight things
become gay, gay things become straight. Sweet become savory. By
the way, you know, what is the gay equivalent of
having a sweet tooth? Being like, I actually prefer savory? Okay,
drag my ass?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
And also I know that's my favorite thing is to go, oh,
that's too sweet.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well I was about to say, of course, the corollary
of that is, that's not too sweet? Is it? When
ordering a cocktail? And guess what, spoilerler, it's gonna be
too sweet. It's gonna be too sweet. It's gonna go
ahead and be too sweet. Yeah, okay, So George, do
you have one? Yes? I had one? Okay, So I
was thinking, do you guys know way Mo is only here.

(15:45):
You guys think it's normal. You're wrong. You think it's normal.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I think it's normal.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm sorry, I'm a normal, normal, blue blue bladed sure American.
I'm coming here. I'm coming here straight off the bus.
I see a car, there's no driver in it. I'm
calling the police, and people trust this do just every time. Okay,
this is a legitimate question. Everyone answered the same time.

(16:10):
When you get in one, are you like.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Okay, yeah, or are you literally like.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
No, okay, You're like, you're like filming, everyone's filming. What's
I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Are you all creating content? Slash context? So I got
in my I got in my weaimo, and I went
to Sweet Maple for brush. I got the Millionaire's Bacon
because I heard it was really good. I'm sorry, all
my references are about fifteen years old. Okay, So you
think I think waymo, Well, it's complicated. Here's the thing.

(16:45):
I definitely think obviously gig guys also are evil in
their own way. But I think I think acting so
much on the instinct to not want to talk to someone,
specifically when in customer service, because that's basically where it
comes from. It's people that don't want to say one
single word to their human identified uber driver.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Which, so by the way, can be one of life's
greatest pleasures.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, you know, and we'll have you know.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Actually, though we were in a human operated uber today
and we were crushing.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
We were the way we realized.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We were having a normal conversation on the back. At
some point we hear, well, look at each other, we say,
let's give this man a show.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I'd say, we got more ten minutes, ten more minutes
on this thing, let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
And then I was literally like, all right, what do
I got? What do I got? I read that Nelly
is performing the inauguration. I say, I'm yelling, I'm really
speaking for the back, for the back. I'm like, what
is it gonna do hot in her?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
The man starts applauding, Oh my god, Oh my god.
I mean, so there's the thing straight.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
People don't want to speak one word to their human
identified uber driver. So they literally got military funding to
make self driving cars. So what end?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
And just to counter you slightly, please, it is a
little bit GI guy coated to be like I'm driving.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, okay, yes, you're.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Like there is something to be like, let's just see totally.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
But I know you mean there's also a personal touch there.
Of course, of course there's a personal touch. Yeah, okay,
what was your other one?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Okay, my other one is this is well, everything I
do is controversial because I men'swear.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
So men'swear is straight? Is the contention? People are scared.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
People are waiting with baited breath.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, are you guys okay? Yeah? Are you choking? Are
you guys choking on your tenders? Right now people are
taking off their Evan Canori jackets and throwing them in
the trash? All right, context even, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I think men's wear is like, okay, so clothes or
gay guy.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Everyone knows this obviously, but but gay guys know that,
like clothes matter when a woman wears them.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, Like that's fashion. Yeah, yeah, like.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
When a man Like there's this thing happening with men's
wear where it's like like almost being like.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I can take care of myself in fact, I don't
need anyone.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Yeah, and it's like turning into this like armor of
like thousand dollars watches.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
So, by the way, let women have one thing they
can't have fashion now you're doing fashion for men.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I just I would say.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's in cell coded if anything, so quite literally, it's
literally like I like clothes because I can't find a woman. Yeah, yeah,
are they by the way, they're also okay? First of all,
when women dress for other women, that is we're gonna
go ahead and say sleigh boots. When a man dressed

(20:01):
for another man, it's like, how about you go to therapy.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
There's something I can't elaborate, but militaristic about it, of course.
And it is like when you see like a stylist
dressing a woman. Yeah, and it's a gay man. He
always looks horrible. That's high design, yes, because he knows
that his clothes do not matter.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, you have to have you have to be egoists.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You have to forget who you are and lose yourself
in the in the textures.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, in the vibrant hughes. Yeah. It's also like develop
any other hobby, you know what I mean? Of course
I always agree with you. Hold on, I'm looking at
my list. Okay, So my other one was gonna be
Cheryl Samberg because just to go with a Mark Zuckerberg,

(20:54):
because guess what, you know what you know we haven't
heard from in a while. Cheryl Samberg? Where the hell
is she? Does anyone know? She's actually here? Must be
her moment.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I could have been right.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I was right before. Can you do?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
George did an incredible impression.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
No, I wasn't doing an impression. She just she has
the perfect tone where she's like, on the one hand
being so like, so the way this is gonna work.
So what we did with this product is we wanted
everyone to be empowered to talk to their cousin if
they wanted to. But also, of course, if you want
to set off a bomb and for it to go
off in the Middle East, you can do that as well.
And so she she she is able to like add

(21:33):
a sort of like I would say, professorial auntie vibe
to describing let's say, mass murder, you know, And I
think that's what you have to look for in an executive,
of course. But the point is now she's completely disappeared.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, George, why can't she because she's a woman?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yes, Contextiva, is her behavior approved or no, oh, that's a.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
First bureaucracy is getting in the context.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Okay. I sort of wanted to do the Bush era
thing that we were talking about. You have to remind me, Okay.
So we were saying, you know, obviously we're about to
enter another trump eras so we were like, which disgusting
parts of the last time conservatism was endemic are gonna
come back, And I was saying, I think spring Break
slash Girl's Gone Wild culture is gonna make comeback. But

(22:30):
this time it's gonna be talk about context less like
it's gonna be it's gonna be so confusing, whether it's
empowering or not. Like Girl, if the Girl's Gone Wild
version today is gonna be run by a like burnt
tan woman from Florida who's like a billionaire.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, No, it's gonna be like like, Unfortunately, my mom
is gonna sort of be like, I think it's cool.
She's like, I think it's cool what they're doing, and
I think we should be allowed to express themselves.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And then guess what in the next Trump administration that
woman is going to be ambassador to the US thoughts.
I think this is one hundred percent genius.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Yeah, sometimes it scares me when you predict things because
they will come true.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I mean, do you remember when I predicted aerobics was
gonna make a comeback and then literally Jane Fonda is
doing it for Meta.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Did you guys know which of you signed off?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
By the way, where's her statement? She's still working with
Zuck Wow Hannoy Jane. They called her I'm right wing.
All right, should we get the show started? What do
you think? Yeah? What do we think?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Should we get the show started?

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh my god, we have to say we have two
guests that I'm incredibly excited by. Well, I was about
to say both bear Well Media. No, no, no, that's what
I was God, say both Barria Natives. We did find
out one of them is a Barry native. One of
them has lived here since two those nine, which to
my mind counts. I think it counts. So I think
this is a hometown glory style show. And of course

(24:07):
I'm a hometown native because I worked at Facebook in
twenty thirteen, so you know, we all get it here.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, I'm hometown. I was here for a wedding two
years ago.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah. Oh, please get a way, mo I'll meet you there.
Our first guest, you are going to absolutely go hogwild
for him. He is in fact doing his own podcast show,
Endless Honeymoon tomorrow at four pm.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
As part of this best part of this festival.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Even. Please start clapping now, give it up for Mosha cash. Wow,
grab a chair, grab all Mike.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Where is she?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Where's the queen?

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Wyeah context context Eva. I just had to contextualize who
you are.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Nice to see you.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Wow, how's it going? Are you inspired by the context?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
This morning, I mean it was really psychedelic. It was
really cool. Yeah, any thoughts about any of the amazing
points we've made so far?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I thought you both were charming and killed Oh perfectly. Yeah,
that was really the scuttle butt up in the green
room is these two boys are killing right now.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I will say it didn't go quite as well as
it did with our uber driver today, but we still
appreciate all the laughs, y'all.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I didn't love the points you made about men's wear,
but other yeah, you know, I was thinking that as
we were saying it, I was like, you are clearly
someone who dresses well and likes how you dress.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Like I would consider myself an in cell per se.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
No, I as I was saying it, I said, I
could see you sort of backstage hovering, And I said, yeah,
I saw the glimmer of that night.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Yet.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
No, it's just I'm not he's probably on Reddit right now. No,
because like I fucked my wife like all the time.
You know, you know, you know what I mean, I'd
be like Bob mother my child.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know this is so cool.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'm just trying to bring really kind of like dick
swinging straight energy right now.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, yeah, well there's anything that's dick swinging. It's a
Japanese cardigan and crossing. You're like, damn, damn, damn got
his ass so well.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
I brought it up because men was close to me
and the siren song always calls, and I always say
stop it.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
I don't want to be a part of this world.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Oh you want to you want to dress I want
sometimes I don't want to say better, but you want
to dress better.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I think we both it calls to us, but I
know it's bad.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I think for us, men's wear is like if we
were evangelical Christians, menswear would be porn. Like we're like,
we want it so fucking bad, but we know, but
we think it's immoral.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Can I can I tell you something gay?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Please?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I would love the gay straight about porn that happened
to me very recently, like last night, and it involves
my wife, who you know, I'd be fucking on a
regular basis.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Fuck man, serious, fuck.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
She?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
I think it was. It might have been last night
actually was like we were talking about something, and she
was like, and that's why you that's why you exclusively
jerk off to gay porn. Oh, that's what she said
to me.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Did she mean lesbian porn?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh okay?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And I said what? And I guess early in our
relationship I told her that I have jerked off to
gay porn and she assumed that that was the exclusive content.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
We're married ten years. That's wild and she thinks that
that's the only pornography that I consume. She is so accepting. Yeah,
you would think it would be a fucking red flag.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
It's basically you, babe, and then it's gotta be man exclusively,
like you are gay? You are a gay man.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Maybe she thought she turned to that gay.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh that's cool. Did did did you feel like was
it hard to dispel this rumor without seeming defensive?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
No, yeah, you don't want to be all at all, actually, dog,
because you know it's like I no, I I It
was so confusing to me that she had taken one
small detail and superimpose it over what I would say
is a nightly hobby of mine.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Jerking offs are gay porn? Yeah, which is just general general? Sure,
what percentage are we talking is gay?

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Wait what percentage?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
What percentage of the porn you jerk off to is gay?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
It's just the one time I mentioned my wife. Okay,
I would go ten, I would go ten, I would
go ten.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
And can I ask you this is by the way,
I'm so glad you brought this to us. What is
it about it? What is what is context? Diva? Hear
me out? What is the context here?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, what do you mean? What's the context? I got
a boner and lotion. I'm horny.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
No, Actually, now that we're bringing this up, it is
my topic.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Uh okay, wait wait, so you said you had a
bunch of topics.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
No, this is my topic. Jerking off to gay porn
is straight? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, I fully believe
what's the content? Why you're saying I guess what I
mean is.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, try to tap into your inner sexuality.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
What what's what's speaking to you about it? Here's what
I love about this, And this is how this is
actually very dick swinging of you. I'm asking you what
is the context of you jerking off to gay porn?
And you're like, what the fuck do you mean?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Here?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You are talking about jerking off to gay porn. You're like,
what's the issue in which I love?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I would say the context is I am an officionado.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Sure of all porn and it's all hot to me. Yeah,
well not all.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
There's one category I don't fuck with obviously, that's interracial.
But no, I just I once in a while, I'm
in a mood. It's a piccadillo, you know, I would
say I I would say I'm ten percent gay, ten
percent trans, eighty percent just meat.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Meat and potatoes.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, all right, Wow, well that was really amazing.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Thank you for talking about give me up.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Thank you, that was vulnerable space. Thank you for opening
this queer space. Of course, listen, I guess come out.
I guess yeah, honey, I'm seeing the headlines already.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I love it to come out and immediately be like
my wife thinks I only dronk off to gate porn.
The fuck is her problem? Bitch? Well where else than
radio la?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Am I going to admit this?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Mosha, I'm Mosha, Mosha.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
We heard that you actually came with not one topic
but several that you wanted to run by.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
It wasn't even that, it was that I was struggling
with my sexuality. Of course, we know to come up
with every topic that I came up with as uber straight,
immediately felt gay again. And you said that that's an
ongoing theme.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I don't, it's a problem.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I mean, I at first I thought about like my hobby,
which is surfing, and I'm like, actually, there's nothing gayer
than surfing. You know. It's like you put on like
a skin tight rubber suit with your buddies and then
you all lay face down and you get really excited
when there's a big swell, you know, like yeah. And
then I was like, let me go really straight UFC.
And I was like, okay, I don't. That's that's as
gay as anything is. I was like, okay, how about

(31:32):
like fingering. It only took me a few moments to
realize the flawed my logic and a few memories from
the catch on my computer, and then I was like, well,
how about like come comes pretty straight?

Speaker 7 (31:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah? Like it shoots, you know, it's like, yeah, it's violent,
it blasts. You know, it's straight. You're lucky. It's white stains.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, it's straight, it's white, it's male.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
But I only landed on on intimacy workshops.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
It this is so huge.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Because I went to one two weeks ago with my wife.
You know what I'm saying, Ah.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
So cool.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Actually it was more it was more of a of
a porn detox than an intimacy No, it was it.
It was a real intimacy workshop. And we noticed that.
And this is I'm noticing already that there's a bit
of a slant towards gay men on this show.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Would we say, oh, oh yeah, yeah, well we try,
you know, we used to try to be more inclusive.
I think we've sort of given up recently. I mean,
you know, after the.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Election, every couple was there were no gay male couples.
There were twenty two couples, and there were some lesbian
couples and the rest were straight couples. And we were
Natasha and I were asking ourselves, where is where are
the gay men? Where where are they? And we were like, oh,
they're probably like having fun or something somewhere.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So we can answer that for you. It's complicated. So,
as we've said before on the pod, divorce is lesbian
right and staying together forever, but being violently unhappy as
game of guys because they're all open. So if they're like,
let's say you go home to your husband. You literally

(33:20):
hate each other, can't stand each other. There's no reason
to change anything because you're already having the sex you
would be having otherwise. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah, you're like, you're like, you come home, you throw
your keys down. Your husband says like, huh, finally you're here.
You pick your keys back up, You're going to the bathouse. Yeah,
oh that sounds great.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
A straight relationship you just go, yeah, I'm here, and
you sit down on the couch. Yeah, and dig in.
What is straight? What's straight?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Lesbian is divorce, staying with somebody straight somewhere in the middle. Yeah,
straight is like being moderately happy in your second marriage.
You know what I mean. It's sort of like, well
I reached, like this is sort of the best that
can probably get married. Yeah. Yeah. No, Sam is sorry, engaged,
but in.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Like an put it put in like an alternative way.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Sam is obsessed with being fully in the price of
planning a wedding, but not saying that he's engaged. Sorry,
am I calling you out?

Speaker 7 (34:15):
No? You do?

Speaker 4 (34:16):
You call him your fiance?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
God? No? Now, how good? That's too basic or something? Yeah,
what is he a lesbian?

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah? So why weren't they Why weren't they there?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
They don't no, I think literally George is right, they're
like out there like spending the money you spent on
that to like go to fire Island and hook up
as many people as they Yes.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Their therapy is having three or their intimacy workshop is
literally fucking another guy.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I have pitched that to my wife so many times.
The thing is it does help?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah does it?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah? Wait.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
You'll have a conflict with your partner and then go,
well when.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
You're feeling a little bland and you're like, okay, it's
time to mix it up, Like who are we anymore?
It's like then you have sex with a third person
and you're like, oh, that's who I am.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's cool. See I do that, but it's I keep
it a secret from my wife.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Oh wow, yes, that's why it's okay, yeah, wait, don't
you don't put this podcast out.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I'm curious, like, in this intimacy workshop, what we're like,
what were.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
They getting up to? Like, because I actually am also very.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
There's an element of this that feels very LGBTQ plus
where it's like, so you're all getting horny together.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh, we weren't. No, we weren't.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
We weren't fucking each other.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
So here's what Sam is referring to. It's like there
are actually they're one of the reasons I will say
you didn't see gay men there is because there are
intimacy workshop adjacent things like that that are like men only.
There's a lot of like men only things that you
don't hear about that are like sort of bath house
adjacent culture. Well, they'll they'll phrase it like reconnect with

(36:00):
your body.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, it's like it's like a Lingham covering or where
it'll be like everyone is edging right, but like there
is also a psychoanalyst present. I got it.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
He's the guy you come off you do watch.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Can I can? I? By the way, tell you I
don't know this. This is weird. It's back to gay porn.
But I was in a in a circle jerk when
I was a teenager with with one gay man and
a straight friend. Everybody here is just like, Okay, you're gay, Mosha,
that's what's happening. No, you're Oakland. It reads similar, but uh,

(36:40):
it was in the nineties This was in the nineties
and gay I don't know if you remember this gay porn.
They used to do multiple cum shots of the same
com like it would be a guy like oh, and
then there would be another angle and the same guy
would have uncome.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Do they not do that in straight porn? No? Multi no?

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Oh, we like cinema verite. Okay, you can't come twice?

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Did someone just go awe?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
It was between an awe and an eu.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Context E has thrown out her notebooks. She's like, they
are all okay, so all right, but I do want
to get into the specifics of what else happened at
this workshop.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Okay, well it was. It was conducted by an old
hippie couple and the man. The man started. There was
a lot of funny things that happened. But the man
he had a harmonium. Let's start there. You know what
that is. It's like a It's like a cross between
a It's like an if an accordion was on psychedelic
drugs kind of. It's like a thing that you do

(37:47):
this with and then you play. And he would sing
songs and they were very bad.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I can see the auronicism in that.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, they were really bad songs, but they were kind
of beautiful too. It'd be like a everybody, hello, love,
and he would say everybody before he had sung the
whole song, so we'd be like, what do we and
it would but they were very basic love hippie kind
of like loving is good, loving is God. You love
love and we would all have to sing together. And

(38:17):
then his wife was there. He was a psychiatrist and
she was a psychiatric nurse. They'd been together sixty years.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
They were all over each other.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Like constant touching, fondling. He mentioned the fact that he
had cheated on her within ten minutes of the beginning,
and that was sort of the That was the table setting,
and then opening night. We went around the room and
everybody said their biggest vulnerability. Everybody, everybody and people we

(38:48):
didn't know would say their biggest vulnerability. And that was
really super intense and once you got really vulnerable. After that,
I kept thinking we were going to talk about fights
that we were having, and it was It wasn't. It
was really very positive stuff. It was like what do
you love about your partner? What do you can you
your memories when you first met them and and it

(39:09):
was actually a super beautiful experience.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
So this is so different than what I was expecting.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Sam, What did you think?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
I'm like, so, when does the porn come on? Okay,
when do you start touching each other?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh? I see what you're saying. You thought it was
a sexual intimacy work. Yes, Oh okay, okay, this was
more of a It was like it was therapy adjacent.
It was like, okay, building intimacy with your partner.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I think I figured it out. Emotional intimacy, emotional tea
is straight.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Wow. Yeah. I would say there's a spectrum and it's like,
emotional intimacy is lesbian. Yeah, straight is down the middle,
right zero. Emotional intimacy is gay guy. Yeah, I think
there's something to that. Okay, here's my sort of first

(39:58):
thought about this. The emphasis on positivity to me, feels
very straight because it feels like a sort of it
feels like upworthy videos, Like it feels like a cliche
ridden yeah, Like it's literally like, guess what it is.
It's literally love wins, Like that's what you're doing. It's
like you are saying we have issues and someone's.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Like, sh it was sponsored by the Lincoln Project.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Of that.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
That would be iconic if the Lincoln Project sponsored intimacy
workshops for.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Lesbians not to be not to be too sincere. But
the the the the dodging of conflict was its secret sauce.
I thought, like I said, we were going there to
like work on ways to fight better, and instead we
spent the weekend talking about how much we loved each other,
which wasn't really the primary thing we were thinking about

(40:51):
on the way up there, And it somehow changed the
topic in such a way that it was it was
really healing, and it was.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
It is it the content to keep going?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Is this a form out of your show? I had
this like realization that you would be and you as
a married man and you as a as a fiance.
I was like, why wouldn't you do this once a
year or once every two years, do a tune up?
It was tune ups. I think we can all agree,
very very stressing.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well again check the tires, babe.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yeah, I yeah, I mean I think I think that's
part of stray cultures I really relate to. Actually, is
there's this thing like I remember one time, like five
years ago, my partner and I were arguing a.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Lot, and.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
My guy, my best guy, and I were arguing quite
a bit, and there was a moment where we're like,
you know what, let's just bury it, like, let's actually
not discuss it anymore.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
We're actually just gonna be like enough moving on. And
it helped so much.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Okay, So basically, you guys, you guys are repressed. You
guys are literally rebranding wasp culture to make it more
like burning Man like it's and I think he's genius.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Literally the opposite of intimacy is that is right, exactly. Yeah,
I'm getting really close to like an emotional truth for you.
So what I'm gonna do is suggest that you build
a callous over it. We never revisit it.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I think it can be so empowering. Well, here's what
I'll say. What if the agreement to create a callous
is the most intimate thing you could do at the
end of the day.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Yeah, But by the way, that should have been my
applause break. I just didn't bring it up quickly enough.
That's how it felt. It felt like, even through the
corniness of the harmonium, even through the like the weird
flakiness of this situation, showing up was like eighty percent
of what this whole thing was. So basically, anyway, that's
the reason I came on the show. I'm actually planning

(42:51):
an intimacy workshop for gay man only.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Wow. Yeah, And it basically what it is.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
You all stand in a circle, you stare at each other,
you say your biggest vulnerability in the and you all
just sort of ejaculate on me.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Like that, and then you'll get to create some of
Mosha's favorite videos.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
No, that is the video.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Wow, well that sounds amazing. All right, any final thoughts
on an intimacy workshop.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I do have a final thought. This is uh for
the for your audience, We're strugg Our podcast tomorrow is struggling.
We have sold five tickets. No, I'm joking or very popular,
but but we are doing a dating game segment and
there's a there's a woman coming up that is going
to do like classic dating game but show number two

(43:34):
best or number three. She's queer, and we have two
women and we would love a man if there is
a man that dates women in the audience. So you're
you're like, I'm a man, but you thought I was
just like if there is a man.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
The fingers started flying and if there's only like one.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
You know, come talk to me after the show. But
any further thoughts on intimacy workshops, I honestly think if
you're in a relationship as corny as they are. It
was one of the coolest things that I ever did.
And it was really funny because there were couples in there.
There was one couple that had been together sixty years
the people that were leading it. Another couple been together
fifty plus years, and the woman was in her last

(44:16):
I think two or three months of life and they
were dedicating themselves to put making those last three months
intimate and loving. And I know that's that's getting right
to that callus that you built over with your with
your fella or your guy pal or whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
They should have gone to Berlin.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
And then there were other another couple was there. They
were like, we've been together since May. Oh yeah, and
they were just high on cocaine the entire time.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah damn well give it up emotion cash everybody.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Thank you, see you later. That was amazing. Wow wow
wow wow wow wow. That was incredible. That was that
was electric. That was electric. Then narrative to come out with,
like you know, haha, gay porn and then to end
on Love Conquers All. I witnessed a sixty year relationship

(45:13):
like reach its pinnacle in front of me, and then
she died. God, it would have been so great for
the story if she died the end. I know, Oh
that's too bad.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Did you all learn something about intimacy?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Okay? I want to know, San Francisco, make some noise.
If you have been in anything that could be called
an intimacy workshop, that's pretty good about Okay, I would
have thought more.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Maybe I want to say, this thing keeps happening tonight
where like there will be like this. It's sort of
one of my favorite things is where there will be
three people that go like this, and it actually sounds
much sadder and if there was no applause, that's true.

(45:58):
It is genuinely. When I hear that, I'm like, damn,
like queer art of failure.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Wait, can I'll tell you something? This is so smart
actually because guess what is like the sign of silence
is crickets. It's not actual silence, like there's something about
there's something about are you hearing this something?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Sometimes you can be louder than silence.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Fuck, like actual silence is in silence.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Damn, George, you are so smart. Wait I also just
confess something. Oh, when Mosha was doing the like fake
straight guy handslaps.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
So you twice to me zero times, there was one
time where he went like that and I literally didn't
act fast.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Enough and then was over the way that I genuinely
felt taken taken in that was like, like.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Oh, I trust he picked favorites and it did not
go unnoticed.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Well, maybe our next guest will also pick favorites, but
the opposite way, so that, Oh my god, let's hope.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So you guys, anyway, I feel like I just sounded
like Busy Phillips.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
You guys, which would be an honor to sound like Busy.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
That's right, or I or like Rachel Zoe. Okay, I'm
dad about this next guest.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm doad.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
I die, I die, I die way out at the
mac Ala in the bathroom, I was literally dad, and
now I'm trying to I'm not talking about my mouth anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So she is quite literally one of the smartest women alive.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
I want to say, that's what they're that's what they're
telling me.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That is what I think. She was voted smartest woman alive.
She is an absolute legend and an icon. She has
a memoir alcoholed in the form of a question, look
at us promoting worse. I'm literally so good at promoting.
Please give it up for Amy Schneider.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
Yes, I am the I am the smartest woman alive.
That's true.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, congrats on that, by the.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
Yeah, because like definitely, you know, knowing the capital of Lichtenstein,
That's that's what smart means. Like, yeah, that's that's why
I am.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Is the capital of linkedn' signed Lincoln's sign? Or is
that just Luxembourg?

Speaker 7 (48:27):
That's Luxembourg, classic classic trap.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
That's a classic trap lit dudes. Oh of course, Well
that was maybe my second guess.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, of course it was.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Okay, Amy, first of all, how's it going. Yeah, let's
start there. Let's start there.

Speaker 7 (48:44):
Oh, dish, you're still asking people how things are going,
and I know, like the timeline of well, yeah, things
are going fantastic.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Perfect, I'm so glad. Yeah, but this is my new
my new character. Go ahead, no, please do it?

Speaker 7 (49:03):
No, wow, yeah, no, things are going wonderful. I'm trans
I just got you know, this election just happened, and yeah,
this is wonderful. I can't even play college volleyball these days.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
And we know, you know, people don't know that your
passion has always been college volleyball.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And you actually did Jeopardy because you were hoping to transition.
That's the real transition is from Jeopardy to college.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Now that that's been forever taken away from me, apparently.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
That is so sad. I'm so sorry. Yeah, so Amy,
m hm, did you bring a topic with you and
can you tell us what it is?

Speaker 7 (49:44):
I mean, yes, and yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I'm amazing at my job.

Speaker 7 (49:50):
Yeah, that was great, well done. It was. It was
a struggle because I was like, at a certain point
dealing with the there's because there's the gay or straight spectrum,
and then there's also the CIS or trans spectrum.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Correct, right, because a very.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
Cis thing to do is to divide things up into categories.
So I had to like work through that.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
And then.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
If there's one thing we love, it's putting something in
a box.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Right. But can I tell you something? Theorizing about categories
is trans.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
I mean, yeah, you got me, You got me on
that one.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Good job, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
I had a lot of different ideas, but like I
felt like the one that somehow felt most appropriate to
this venue is colonizing Mars.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Got it, colonizing Mark colonizing Mars?

Speaker 5 (50:47):
And what do you you know, feel straight about that
off the bat, before we really get it into.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
What it feels straight about it?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
To me?

Speaker 7 (50:53):
Is that like it is this idea that like, you know,
Elon Musk's specifically and a lot of other people have
this idea that's like we're just gonna go to Mars
and things will answers will happen, We'll figure out a
way to do things there. Everything's gonna work out just fine.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, uh you know.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
And I'm like, I'm trans like nothing works out. I
can't even put on an eyeliner, Like I.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Don't like, now you want me to do it in Mars? Right,
what's the gravity even like there? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (51:25):
No, I mean, but it is just this like like
bullish confidence, yes that like, Okay, here's what we'll do.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
We'll go to MA And I also think you're pointing
to the idea of having a big going big without
thinking of the consequences or without thinking of the implications.
It's like literally like doesn't that sound cool? And that's
reason enough to do it.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, it's a childishness.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
The childish it's a childish just because everyone Quinn people
have to.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Grow up and specifically boyishness. Yeah, yeah, there's something also.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
You know when people like get a really big house
but like have nothing to put in it, that is genius.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
That is what Mars is to me. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Yeah, where it's like it's like, yes, we could maybe
get there, well I mean yes.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Maybe even live there, but what are we gonna put there?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Well?

Speaker 7 (52:17):
I mean yeah, I mean exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Next thing, you know, you have three kitchen islands in
your kitchen and it's.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Literally how about you just clean your fucking room?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:26):
This is my thing about like like the Elon Musk
of the world being like, oh, we need to be
a multiplanetary society like even that like on the scale
of the galaxy. It's like ants being like, oh, we
need to also colonize the kitchen as well as the bathroom.
And now we're like, you know, doing it. No, we're
still in this tiny little space. And you know what,

(52:51):
I'll tell you what's on Mars nothing right, there is
nothing there. But if you're you just assume that something's
gonna turn up and be good for you. You're gonna
be like, oh oh, turns out things worked out all
right for me after all.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Yeah. There's also a way that thinking big, which is
so privileged in straight spaces, is actually defense mechanism against
not wanting to focus on the small. So it's like
Elon Musk wants to go tomorrow. It's like call your son.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Or call your door.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Yeah, question, Oh the context, okay, what is your question?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
What is your question? We always do this with our context, EVAs.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Is the American tree straight? Oh, so we're just like.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
So we're just saying whatever we want.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Let me tell you something for our context. Eva, you
sort of missed the boat on how this marked. But
I but but okay, but here's but okay.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
But I we can relate that to I think this
is really vold.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
And you're absolutely right, And now I'm and now I'm
getting how you made the connection. It's like it's like, well,
the American dream, of course, the American dream and also
colonizing Mars both built on infinite growth. It's like you
can you can do anything.

Speaker 7 (54:16):
Yeah yeah, well, and I mean this is the thing too,
Like again, the you know, the the trans thing, because
like you know, as as a white trans woman, I
spent so much of my life in straight land, you know,
and I've lost my train of thought. Hold on, sorry, yeah,

(54:38):
but it's like, yeah, these things that uh, you know,
we we're all on the outcast. We get put into
these places.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Shit, no, no, look, this is no. I love this.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
And we think, you know, we think your life is
so glamorous as the smartest woman on earth. But there
actually comes with side effects.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Sometimes sometimes you can have too many sometimes you can
have too many thoughts.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, and people don't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
They only talk that's right.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have to do many thoughts right now.
But what it is like things start out like the
tech industry, yeah, the American Dream America itself. All the
outcasts end up out there, and all the outcasts are
a combination of gays, straights, queers, and also assholes. Sure, right,

(55:32):
And then what happens is, as it gets more powerful,
all the gays, straits and queers get filtered out and
you're left with just the assholes at the top. And
that's what's happening with the tech industry right now, is
that we've just we're just left with the assholes.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
But here's my question for you. You're saying, initially America was
outcasts and then the assholes rose to the top. Are
the people going to Mars? Is the issue with Mars
is that it's not the outcast going there? Oh my god. Okay, hold,
So the issue with colonizing Mars is that it's not

(56:10):
people that are like, I'm so weird, they'll only get
me in Mars. It's not that it's actually right, because
it's because it's not escaping to a safe space. It's
literally colonizing and you playing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 (56:23):
Yeah yeah no, because it's like because I chose this
because I used to I read like the Kim Stanley
Robinson Mars trilogy and I loved that stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yeah mm hmm yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
And it's like it used to be so promising, just
like computers used to be so promising that you know,
the Internet used to be so gay and it has
gotten so straight because like that's what happens, you know,
we we've come along, all us weirdos have come out
and done these new weird things, and then a bunch

(56:54):
of other It turns out some of us were just
like not weirdos. We're just like ass with no constraints
that are like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg and just
want to like bang shit up and do shit.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
What do you think appeals? So the assholds are the
ones planning to go to Mars?

Speaker 7 (57:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Fine, But then there are normal people who are excited
by that proposition. What's going on psychologically there? Would you say?

Speaker 7 (57:21):
Well, I mean we all, we all wish we could
go to Mars. We all wish to Mars, right, we
all wish we could have a clean slate and a
fresh start.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Obviously, Yeah, settle down to the nice alien Sure yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yeah, I moved to Mars. It's just called La.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Here's a question. Women are from Mars, men are from Venus.
Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Who's from where? Who does what?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Okay? Was that context eva?

Speaker 5 (57:57):
But the spirit took over? That's our deputy. Yes, the
context EVA has security.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah yeah, okay, got I gotta got it. Yeah okay.
So here's my question for you. Colonizing Mars is straight. However,
sci fi and space exploration in an ideal world should
be queer, right, So what is the solution like, how
do we reclaim the idea of you know, being being

(58:30):
enraptured by infinity? This is such a tough question now,
I think it's pretty easy answer.

Speaker 7 (58:37):
Oh, I mean, I don't know. I feel like this
is another like CIS and trance thing, Like you think
there's an answer like no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Period like yeah no, But it's like that, it is.

Speaker 7 (58:49):
It is just an eternal cycle, right, Like there's always
going to be like a bunch of us going out,
Like if you don't fit into society, you go out
and find new societies that you might fit into, and
that's queer and that's cool and that's great. Also, if
you don't fit into society, maybe you're just a terrible person.
You get like cast out and if yeah, I don't

(59:14):
know consequences. I feel is like the main issue here.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
You know what I think would really powerfully LGBTQ plus
getting stuck in space.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Haven't you seen that Matt Damon movie He had to
piss on the potatoes And what's not LGBTQ plus about that?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
It is a part of kink positive piss play. I
guess I'm a potato pick. He's a potato big he's
doing intrimidtent fasting. He has a very strict diet.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
I think there's something about the one the wanting when
you're like, I'm mostly thinking of the film Gravity, but
when you are Sandra Bullock and you are stuck in space,
you're LGBTQ plus Oh you mean stuck literally like you're like,
how the hell am I gonna get hold?

Speaker 7 (59:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:59):
By the way, if you or in orbit, of course
that's queer. But if you're on Mars, that's straight.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yeah, that's like you're buying property and it's like, no, no,
the most queer you can be a Sandra Bullock just
being like whoa. When I saw that, I was like,
I feel so seeen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Wow? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Well and and also while we're on space, yeah, I mean,
have we already discussed whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Pluto's up to? Wait, you're the person asks what the
hell is Pluto up to?

Speaker 7 (01:00:29):
I mean, it is a big chunk of rocks that
is out there in the universe.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Again, it's a chunk of multiple rocks. Yeah, I was going,
see this.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Is this is again the cis trans thing, because it's like,
oh cares, whether.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Is okay?

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Yes, Pluto is just Pluto is just Pluto. I'm really
understanding what's going on here, which is I think it
is Mars exists. Okay, let's start there. It is, it
is cis to try to bring it to human terms. Yeah,

(01:01:10):
would you say that's accurate? Yeah, yeah, it was like,
oh that's nice. It's like, okay Mars. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
You know what's another LGBT thing would be to go
to Mars and instantly die because you you met it
where it's at, that's right, said, I see you, thank you,
I'm dead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Right, it's like your fault. What are humans do here?
Oh not not? Okay? Right? See all right?

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
Which is also yeah, I mean where this comes into
as my as a lesbian like that, like factors in
as well. I was thinking with your like divorce and uh,
because divorce is the lesbianis thing of all? Well of course, yes,
oh we both hate each other. Let's drag this out
for years. Yeah. I think the straight thing is having

(01:01:55):
a mistress. I think that's the yes, that is, of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Course, is having a miss and les I mean lesbian
sometimes get divorced without even getting married first.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Yeah, that is real truth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, here's that's actually an even bigger form of intimacy.
Sometimes on a first date they'll be like, I want
to get divorced.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
God, I wish we could go into a big legal battle.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Well so so you see my grinder profile.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I'm feeling like I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah no, I actually, but guess what is understanding? Sis?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
No, okay, that would be such a funny shape, like no, sweetie,
oh sweetheart, oh sweetie, No, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Happened out area for a long time. Simple. Okay, Well
give it up for Amy Schneider. Everybody give it up again?

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
From up Chasha.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Wow wow wow.

Speaker 7 (01:03:06):
Wow wow?

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Can I do two quick updates?

Speaker 9 (01:03:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Please please?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
I didn't give my final My final takeaway from intimacy
works right, And I thought about in the story, and
there is a very cute by man in the audience
who has DMed me and is down to do the
dating game tomorrow. So I feel like that's huge. It
was it's it couldn't be huger.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, and what's his name? Because he actually should get
kicked out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
You're not suposed to be on your phone. Be here
with us, please, Mosha's not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
But okay, my my takeaway that I forgot to say
My real takeaway, because I was so busy trying to
get this this by male representation, which thank you for participating,
is is that that when you're in a relationship and
when you're it comes back to, even with what everybody's
been saying about how hellish the world is, when you relationship,
not just with another person, but with this hellish world

(01:04:03):
it is, you get into this grind of life where
negativity is the only thing that will raise you out
of your stupor in order to focus on actually engaging.
That's why we go to therapy because we're so miserable.
That's why you go to an intimacy workshock because you've
been fighting so much with your partner. And my big
takeaway was we never take a pause to do something

(01:04:24):
intentionally positive. And that was like a giant shift in
my relationship and in my relationship with the world. And
I think as you go to your fiance, fiance, fiance
and everybody, even if you're even if you're even if
you're single, taking time in the in your life to
say I'm going to set a date to do something
that is infused with positivity, it was. It's a huge

(01:04:47):
shift and it's changed my relationship and it can change
your life too, and it is the straightest thing you
can do.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Wow, that's nice to say you, but motion we are
an anti gratitude podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I am on a lot of MDMA right now. I
should have said that for context.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Mosha, you would love the album Radical Optimism by Dua Lipa.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
It's quite a rich text when you really dive into it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Well, I think it might be time to do our
first segment. I think it is, guess.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,
we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire
questions basically this thing or this other thing, to gauge
your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The only
rule is you can't ask a single follow up question
or we will be so so upset.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Go ahead, got it? Yes? Okay, squad AI or gay
guy Gay guy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
AI is a gay guy If you ask enough questions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
That's t actually spilled. Okay. Rejecting the TikTok ban or
premiering at Can, premiering it can.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Yeah, I mean we're bout forty five, it's going to
be premiering a can has nothing for us?

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Okay, being lost in music or getting slashed in Munich.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I'm a Jew, so I'm gonna go ahead and not
do Munich.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Oh. I was gonna say being slashed in Munich. But
it's just a dream. I haven't achieved it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
The first step is dreaming. First step is dreaming. First
at Munich, next at Mars. Okay, ethical polyamory or congressional gerrymandering.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Whoa, I hate them both so much. Yeah, I guess
ethic apology.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
They're both really bad, tough and actually rampant in this state.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with unethical polyamories.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
You're saying neither, Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
No, I will settle on ethical polyamory.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I have everyone always does.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
I have been to an orgy. I get it. I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Okay, the most unexcited anyone who has ever been to
sound Everybody here, this is San Francisco.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
Everybody here has been to a boring orgy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And the only person who hasn't is that bye boy
that's about to be on one tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Okay, Donald Trump's inauguration or Forrest Gumps jog through the nation.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Of forest Gumps jog through the nation.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I'm gonna go with the I just really respect intellectual fortitude,
So I'm gonna go with Forrest Gump as well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Control all delete or lather rinse repeat, Oh, lather rinse repeat.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Control all delete, because it wouldn't it be nice to
control all delete? A lot of things that have happened recently.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
Okay, sex positivity or next, you're not for me?

Speaker 7 (01:08:27):
Uh? Sex positivity? Hey, area, come on, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Think we've established that I am ashamed of my own sexuality,
so it's going to be next, not for me?

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
And finally, the Princess Bride done.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Princess Bride?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah, no, I agree?

Speaker 7 (01:08:44):
Second, second, yeah, but read it just in care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
The Christ he dies.

Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
That does not affect mine, okay, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Do not think that means what you think it means. Okay, Wow,
I'm excuse me as you will. It's a line from
the movie The Princess. Thank you. Yes, yes, yes, I
was so scared. You're about to be a shooter. You
think that's how it happens. They just burst into a

(01:09:17):
high school, as you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
That was so scary.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I was like, what is this code? I'm by Wait,
you think that school shooters are ren fair cause players?

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I mean, you have to admit if they're shooting at school,
there's gonna be some drama.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
That's the one thing about school shooters. They are addicted
to the drama. Literally. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
My younger brother was like, like goth the emo kid
when column mine happened, and he's like, I am just
being goth and dramatic. I'm not about to kill everyone.
But everyone's like, oh, you draw weird pictures your notebook
and he was so devastated.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
God, your your brother literally being like, I'm not dramatic. Yeah,
I don't know what everyone's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I'm dramatic.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
Yeah, yeah, Well that was an incredible performance. I think
we read our guest on scale of one twent thousand dollars,
and I think you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Both hit nine eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I agree with it. All right, Okay, we have to
keep things moving, you guys, because it's literally three am
my time. So our final segment is a second we
like to do at all our live shows called issue
there Yet, and I will explain the story behind it
and then and then we'll get to it. So our
dear friend, past guests of the podcast, Celesyim. Many many

(01:10:36):
years ago, many many years ago, they were at the
Toronto International Film Festival, tiff if you're in the industry,
And they were at the premiere of the Grace Jones documentary,
and then afterwards there was a talk back with a
director and the director was saying something along the lines of,
you know, they don't make icons like Grace Jones anymore.
There's no icons anymore. And someone in the audience said,
what about Janelle Manet and the director said, she's not

(01:11:01):
there yet. She's not there now. We've never commented on
whether or not we agree on that, and we never would,
especially in San Francisco, not to be a bitch, but
from that story, the game issue there yet was born.
It's quite simple. We're gonna show you a series of people, places, things,
and we're gonna basically all have a really open and honest,

(01:11:23):
intimacy building conversation and they're gonna be you know, they're
gonna be barrier themed. I would say, well, of course.
So first lide San Francisco legend. N Is she there yet?
She's so close, you guys, she's so close. One wrong step,

(01:11:47):
you know, she just took one out step. What do
you think. No, I've met her. You've met her? Oh yeah,
I sworn to secrecy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
I never met her, but I met her husband late
one night at their house.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Ah, that was me. That was after the intimacy workshop.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
That's all right, You're like, I have all this negativity.
I need to take it out of someone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I think I'm gonna say. I mean, I hate to say.
You know, she looks so happy in that photograph, which
was taken many months ago. I am gonna it seems
like the consensus is, no, she's not there yet. I
got next line, next line. San Francisco legend Gavin seen
here on the cover of the knob Hill Gazette.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Now he is there. I mean, I can't believe. I
cannot get over the fact that he used to date
Kimberly Gilfoil and that Donald Trump Junior now dates Kimberly
Gilfoyle and they look like the same guy. But if
one of them went to Slytherin. I completely agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
You, Mosha. My political views is I think he is.
I mean, that is the face of someone who is there. Well,
it's like, I even think.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
The way that he starts a conversation implies how there
he is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
He's there, and by there we mean in the vagina
of his best friend's wife, Like that's how there he is.

Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
Yeah, I mean I guess you know, he is there
as the avatar of like he's you know, Nancy Pelosi
is over. He is the next generation of democratic failure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
He is if Nancy Pelosi took the substance.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
He Okay, all right, he's there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
He's there as an Adam Michelin star restaurant during a pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Alright, is she there yet? So he unveiled this new version.
It hasn't been beta tested yet. What do we think?

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
No, no, I pick you guys are misunderstanding the question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
It's not Are they good? Yeah? No, no, have they arrived?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
And he's definitely arrived version Absolutely, Darth Zuckerberg is among us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Like he's so.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
I mean, we should have seen it coming when he
displaced all people in Maui for his mansion.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
He's there.

Speaker 7 (01:14:23):
I'm gonna, you know, respectfully disagree because here's the thing,
Like he's trying to do this whole thing, but like, dude,
look at your face, look at your hair. This is
not a thing you can become.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Right, It's just not possible. I think you're so right.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
I think there's something so like this is the first
day after Christmas break and he's wearing all his new clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
And it's like you have to slowly roll these things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Out totally, yeah, altely.

Speaker 5 (01:14:53):
And it's like almost implies like in a year he'll
be something completely different, like next year he's going emo,
Like we don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
He definitely went to like a beta male workshop at
the same place I went with the same harmonium guy.
That's like you can be alpha brot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Yeah, and you guys took completely different things out of that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
So so sorry, are you guys mad at George?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Okay? Next line? Micro climate? Is she there yet?

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
I mean she has been there in the main area, Yeah,
but she maybe micro climates this whole time I do, I.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Mean micro cli. It's so it's sort of like she's there,
she's here, Where is she? It's a little bit like
I think micro climates are like an alt girl. Yeah
they're Caroline Polochech.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
But even like yeah, maybe, yeah, what do you think
I do?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
I do not know what a micro climate is. As
a very native to this day, I we didn't talk
about things like that back then. Was a gentrifiers term.
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
It did suddenly because this is this is where revealed
Mosha is the actual native. I'm the one that only
moved here in two thousand and nine. Mosha doesn't know
what a microclimate is, the same way that fish don't
know what water is. Like, that's just what it is
out here.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Yeah, yeah, interesting, huh so sort of No, everyone's saying no,
I guess what I'm really saying is what is a
micro climate?

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Do you all want to say it?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
In Unison?

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Whenever I come to this damn town, everyone's like, well,
it's because of the microclimb.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Well, I do actually think it is kind of a
gentrifiers term because similarly to what happened to Oakland, where
all of a sudden they were creating out of whole
cloth neighborhoods I'd never heard of before, Like this here
is not Billy. Will you not heard of that neighborhood?
This is also phenomenon this maybe this was just rain
when I was growing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Up totally, And I actually think it goes back to
your point back categorization, like cutting up a city into
smaller and smaller and smaller pieces is is heteroizing it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
Well, I don't know, I mean, I just like I remember,
like having lived out here for a while flying to
New York, staying at a place that was in like
Brooklyn or Queens or something, and being like, well, I'm
going to Manhattan tomorrow and checking my weather app and
being like, no, what's the weather in Manhattan going to
be like tomorrow? And then realizing, oh, no, this isn't
the Bay Area. It's just going to be the same

(01:17:26):
weather kind of everywhere all around, whereas here, like you
had to you had to do that. So that's that's microclimates.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
It sounds like it sounds like she's on her way.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
She's still finding her voice.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
She's finding her voice next time. Micro fucking. I just
want to say I made this. I just thought. I
just thought Jared Leto like has the vibe of my
I've never read anything about it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
I thought that was Russell brand Man, and she's there.
Russell's there in the arms of Christ. He's doing amazing micro.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
I mean, yeah, how do you think I did so
well on Jeopardy?

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Did they drug test you for Jeopardy? No, that's an
amazing detail. Actually, yeah, were you high?

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
For real?

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Will they take away the money? If you say yes, I.

Speaker 7 (01:18:27):
I spent it, So I hope not not. In my
original run, but maybe for some of the later tournaments
maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Yeah, well now you're a star, there's more pressure. Yeah,
you're like, you're like, what is anything that's good? Thanks? Okay?
So yes, so yes, all right. Next there, next line, microaggressions.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
I think she's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
I think she's was there five years.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
I think we're post to microaggression, microroggressions.

Speaker 7 (01:19:06):
Nobody needs to bother with them anymore. Just aggressions, aggression.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Soon to be four white people being like, we're post microaggression.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Damn, they like don't matter anymore. Man, Yeah, but we
kind of ate with that.

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
Next live, next line, Okay, Well, Apple watches does bring
us back to my hobby of surfing, of.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Course, because Tesla finally has integration with surf Line finally,
and and I can and I can open it, and
I do drive a Tesla because I support what the
CEO does politically needless to say, and so I it's
very for me personally in my micro climate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
She's the there Wow, any thoughts.

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
I mean to me? No, Like, I mean, that's my
own perspective. Every time I see somebody like do something
with their Apple Watch, I'm always surprised I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
Oh whenever, oh, there's still out there's still out there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Whenever I see an Apple watch, like I get filled
with like a sadness, like I feel like I'm watching
like a space shuttle not quite take off, because.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
There's something so like, oh, you almost have us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Yeah I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
And I don't mean to make this political, but for
you to even mention space shuttles not taking off after
I mentioned my CEO, I just just that was a
bit of a microaggression.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
No, thank you for calling me, and I appreciated it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
And this is now. Microaggressions are only towards white man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Okay, ox next, liidei pants?

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Is she there?

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
You? Who has them?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Who has who has? Where is that my sexual guy?
I'm sure all his closed are high tech?

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Oh you know they have little events everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Bisexuals love wearables.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Publish that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Publish that in the San Francisco Chronicle. What do we think?

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
I'm sure they're they're sure they're there there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Wow, I guess they're on top of a bike.

Speaker 7 (01:21:26):
Yeah yeah, oh I think so, they're they're both.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
They're they're great.

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Because it's like it's like a day to night outfit.
They're like both pre and post apocalypse. Ready, Oh, I love.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
That they what I am not pre or post sex
Ready get them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
What I have enjoyed about men's fashion in the last
ten years is that it is shifted from structure to comfort.
And I feel like I spent a decade suffering in
red wings and structured genes, no offense at all. But
now there are events. Now there are there's wind blowing
through it. She is there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Wow, Okay, she's there. Next line, hate Ashbury hippies. Are
they gonna make a comeback?

Speaker 7 (01:22:14):
I mean, hello, hello, Yeah, they are in Oakland.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Right, They're They're just not in the hate. Yeah. I saw.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
I don't know if this answers your question, but I
saw one of the craziest street fights I've ever seen
in my life on Hate.

Speaker 9 (01:22:34):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
There, it was all the It was the kids that
lived in there used to be a housing project at
the bottom of Hate and it was them, those teenagers
versus the like like Hemp, homeless, you know, and literally
the wizards were throwing staff they were fighting with staffs,
and they were throwing quarts at the people. They I'm

(01:22:57):
not joking, like there was there was Hemp weponry and honestly,
the hippies won that afternoon. I'd never seen anything like
it in my life. And it was a bit of
a of a microdose where they are and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Out for blood all next line public issue there.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
If she was I would be nude right now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
That's yeah, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
I don't mind public nudity. But I did have a
friend staying with me recently. We went surfing and he
doesn't wear underwear, and we were and we were getting
changed and he and he changed very boldly with like
children about and I was like, you're allowed to not
wear underwear and be that guy, but not you can't
force everybody to be that guy with you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Yeah, that's where it gets really complicated.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
You're sort of one of these like you're like, no,
I can't get Pride.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
You're like, surfers are grooming our children.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
There children out there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Well, I'm a no king.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Christian might be okay with me watching gate board, but
he's not okay with someone whipping their cock out on
the beach.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
I'm a no kink at Pride because I work for
Pepsi and we're sponsoring.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Wow, and that, you know, brings us to our final segment, thank.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
You Pepsi, Yeah, where everyone actually says thank you Pepsi one,
two three, thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Do you have any final thoughts about public nudy?

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Well, I I guess I just wanted to say. Sometimes
I think I'm so chill when it comes to public nudity,
and then i see like a like a nude family
and I'm like stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Like when I met I was okay with public nudity.
I met gay guys.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Yeah, and in my apartment yeah, like not like dad
and son like stop. Yeah. All right, I think next
lade as the last. All right, Wow, wow that was
our show. You guys, thank you so much. Give it
up one more time for Mosha Kasher and Amy Schneider.
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