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January 28, 2025 • 67 mins

The grocery store can be glamorous if you're picking up an iced tea or a delicata squash. But what if you just need some paper plates or a spray bottle of all-purpose cleaner? That's where things get drab — and fast. Today we're joined by the hilarious Liza Treyger to chat about the straightest aisle at the supermarket. Plus: Is reclaiming insults over? And are men and women different? We're realy close to figuring that one out!

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Podcast starts. Now, what is up everyone? Welcome to Stradia
Lab today. We are doing that time thing. You know,
is that time thing? It's such deep lore.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm like, do people know that time thing?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
For people who don't know that time thing? Is when
we when we play with time, we sort of gret
a girl way little women, We put the intro, We
record the intro after we've recorded the episode, you.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Know, when we do this, which is rare, I would
say we've done it maybe like certainly under ten times
the entire time we've done this podcast. This is something
that many people do by default, you know, because they
respect their guests and don't want them sitting there staring
at them while they talk to one another. That's it's
a common thing for other podcasters to respect their guests.
It's something that I can't really relate to.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
No. I hear about that, and I get sad.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Often we will even have guests request, hey, can you
know I'm on a time crunch? Can we maybe not
do the part where you talk without speaking to me?
And we say, well, that's sort of how we do
things around here.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, it's just like, how will they how would they
ever understand the tone? Yeah, if they don't. Also, we
want to give them a little m O something to
talk about when they join the call.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think it's a thank you, it's I think it's
a gift to the guest.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
And it's sort of like, so, if you don't want
us to.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do this, you don't care about the podcast being good,
so you don't care about what you're walking with.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
So you want us to fail, so you want yourself
to fail.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
So you want this to be sort of like a
Q and A with a filmmaker without watching the film.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh okay, well that's unethical.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
That doesn't make any sense. That would never fly at
the New York Film Festival, Toronto Film Festival, can I've
never seen that happen before. And maybe it would fly
at south By Southwest that oh tarely they're barely showing films.
It's mostly advertisements for you energy drinks. And then Pharrell
is there and he's like, you know, I just want
everyone to love each other. And then and then you know,

(02:12):
they make that into a little clip.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Bailing on the bit.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
But the point is, no, I actually think I landed
that plane because they do make it into a little clip.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
That's true. They do make it into a little clip.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I The time thing always makes me think, you know,
it's so hard for us to do the time thing
because we are not used to it, and because we
like things to be linear. But then it makes you think,
guess what, you know, who does that time thing all
the time? Film actors. The fact that like, I don't know,
Kristin Stewart is out there shooting love lies bleeding completely
out of order, well that's just the default, and you

(02:48):
have to walk in and you have to tell the director,
so can you remind me again, what did my character
just do?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I find that to be one of the scariest parts
about film acting is I'm like, no, no, no, film
it and order like and that's the default.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's not like, oh, yes, when it's an especially tough shoot,
we have to film it out of order.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
That is literally the default. No, they're like, we film
the end because that was like gonna be the most
physically taxing, and.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yes, and the end is where you're you're you've been
stranded on an island for a full five days and
you're finally being saved and you're covered in dirt and
you have to look relieved and you have to do
that without even having the experience of pretending to be
on the island.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know what this is acting is literally going like POV.
You are like stranded on island and you are dying
and you are blank, and it's like, okay, I'm making
a TikTok POV, I am stranded and you're like, ah,
that's I say.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
So, this is why I always I understand why people
say stage acting is harder. Obviously I get it. However,
to play Devil's advocate like you are doing things in order,
you're doing things. You're doing things in order, You're not
wearing any kind of like green screen suit with the
little beads on it. You are always acting with other
people and not with like an animatronic bull.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It sounds pretty easy to me. It sounds like living
a normal life.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Stag Jesting is actually the easiest thing ever.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, that's why. That's why you don't get paid anything
for it.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So I love Also, this is both that time thing
and I also call this marining because oh yes, I
loved me. We get to record the episode and then
get to sort of be like, so this episode with
Lisa Traeger was actually really awesome. Lie's a great comedian.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
She has a new Netflix special coming out. It's called
night Owl.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know, I've been aware of a shit for a
while now. It was really awesome to get to sit
down with her.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I opened for Lisa once in Philly. That was a
crazy show. Nineteen ninety seven. The Lewinsky scandal was roiling.
Oh you know, I had She did an entire set
about the dress.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But that being said, you know, to be honest, George,
I'm self conscious about this episode because I felt like
it's that classic thing of when one person's in LA
and two people are in New York and I was like, damn,
this is hard to hop in No.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And I felt the same way about the next one
we recorded. It's it's tough, but you know what this
is sort of I would say, similar to that time thing,
this is yours. This is the difference between in person podcasting,
which is of course stage acting, and zoom podcasting, which
is film acting.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
WHOA, Now we're getting somewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Because for you what Lisa and I are are animatronic.
We are like, who's the guy that does them?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
That?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
That is Gallum and the monkey?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh my god? You know no, of course I know
how am I for gonna use Andy Cirkis, Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Basically, Lisa and I might as well be Andy Circus
in a full green screen onesie, because you have to
pretend that we're there in the room with you. You're acting
against nothing, you're basically Zoe Saldana in Avatar.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah. No, you're so right. I mean what we just
did was like so hard.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And by the way, speak of Zoey Saldania. You know,
it's like she's like, oh, I wanted to be challenged,
so I did, Amelia Prez. You know what's challenging? Acting
underwater with only people wearing full body green screen suits.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's very confusing. I'm sort of like, what do you
think is challenging? Our priorities are all mixed up. I
played like, you know, a downtrodden guy who just lost
his job, and it was actually like really nuanced and difficult,
and it's like, doesn't sound that difficult.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Doesn't sound that difficult? You know what is difficult? Playing
Captain America?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
That's hard that it.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is much more difficult.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's a fake guy that you have to make seem
like he's not.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
So fake because and actually I think that's why it's
such a win win to ban all superhero content because
it's actually harder for everyone. I want Chris Evans to
have an easier life. He deserves been through too much
the way that they have to pain Zoe's Aldonia green
from top to bottom order for her to do that.
Those movies what are they called?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
The Marvel the Avengers.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
The Avengers, Yes, Guardians of the Galaxy is what I'm
is what I was.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I know that I know what Marvel is, but I
couldn't remember the exact property that she was.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
A part of. Got It, got It, got It, got It,
got It, got It.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm in a sort of prose always tell Donya moment
right now. I know that I keep bring her up
and you it sort of is not doing much for you,
But I just want to say, you know, she actually
has been giving a lot for a long time. Don't
you think.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I completely agree. I'm in a pro z always hell
Donya moment as well. I feel wrongly accused of not being.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Pros Okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
You know why.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's because we're zooming, so I actually legitimately can't see
your face because it's approximately eight feet away from me
in the studio.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, well no, I actually do stand her, and and
in fact, I love her in every film she's ever
been in, and she might be the reason I do
watch Amelia Perez.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, here's the thing with Amelia Prez. It's not
a good movie, but it's not in the way you
think it's going to be a bad movie.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Also, I think I think Zoe Saldonna and the main
actress who plays the titular Amelia Perez, are both very
good in it. M So I'm sort of like, listen,
give them the acting awards.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Obviously they don't deserve them. The people that deserve them
are both leads, are the lead and the supporting actress
in Hard Truths. But of course, America literally hates films
that are about humanity and human nature because we are
an anti humanist culture. So sure give it to Amelia Apparents.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I was pretty surprised, especially like Challengers not getting anything insane.
I was like, what the hell, I'm just I'm lost.
You know, this industry it breaks you down over and
over and over. It's confusing.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
But I must say, you know, I think in a
previous era of my life, I would have been such
a contraria, and that I would have been like, Hollywood
doesn't know anything, this is all bullshit. But I actually
think even if I didn't like many of them movies nominated,
you have to respect how weird they all are.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm sort of like, Okay, well, at least we're not
awarding the King Speech Theory of Everything and Green Book
like it's we're actually sort of casting a wider net.
And yes I didn't love Amelia Perez, but it is
ultimately like a crazy operatic musical pens It's so good,

(09:22):
and even the brutalist I'm like, okay, great, So this
is like a random four hour epic with an intermission,
and it's not even about a real person, and it's
an original screenplay.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Sure, sure, I think we should wrap up. Actually, let's
do it.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Basically, Please welcome Lesa Traker.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Basically, please welcome Le's a Trager.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Please welcome Lisa Trager.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yes, it is the number one podcast in my heart
and the hearts of all your listeners.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Why can I just say your hair looks incredible? Did
you just get a blowout?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Thank you? I got a I've been this is a
three day blowout. Okay, I gotta blow it on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Are you wearing extensions?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh, I have long hair. But Jared Goldstein posted a
clip of me doing his podcast and my hair. Honestly,
that's a stradiu lab topic is poorly straightened hair so straight?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Like I looked so bad.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I was like, I will never do a podcast without
a blow out again. And I canceled soul cycle to
make sure the blowout stayed. I was like, I'll do
extras next week, like I cannot look like shit again.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I also, I.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Would go so far as to say the concept of
a blowout is straight because I'm gonna be honest, I've
never fully known what that is. It just means they
blow dry your hair, they style it.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, they blow dry and style it. So because it
is a skill, Like that's the thing. People that are hairstylists,
they are good at what they do. And if you're
an impatient person or someone that waits till the last
minute to get ready.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
You're just patient.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
You're like, I'm not going to be blowed learning how
to blow dry my hair.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I'm impatient.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
At dry bar, No, they well, dry Bar is amazing
because it's the lowest form of salon work and it's
a lot of like girls I think, paying their way
through school. It's a lot of like immigrants who are
waiting for a green guard. It's a lot of girls
that like it's not It's really funny the attitudes at
dry Bar.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, that's so funny because in my mind, as an
outsider to be, they fucked up. Yeah, as an outsider,
I'm like, dry Bar is the soul cycle of hair.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
To me, it's premiere.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, no, it went down.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
They didn't upkeep with everything. And it's also not like
you can rip it off so the not or you
can just go to your own place. It costs more,
but like you can also just go to a hairstylist
and get a blowout.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's sort of has always been my strategy with hair generally.
I'm like, I'm always going to my local barber. I
realize I have especially easy hair because I'm just like
buzzing it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, you literally just have a buzz cut.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well, it is a fade, but I used to there
was a moment in my life where I would go
to like the fancy you know, Williamsburg slash. Like when
I was living in San Francisco, I went to like
the fancy place that charges like seventy dollars and I
was like, this is not worth it for me.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, But as a slan receptionist, I loved seeing sexy
women charge men eighty dollar for a haircut and then
get a twenty dollars tip on top because they're like,
just we're so hot. And I loved seeing women owning condos.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
At the end. Totally, I think it's just so sad
that how far we fall in is the society that
you have to look good for a podcast.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
That is no, this is a it's and I'm get
these photographers out of my comedy shows and my podcast,
but this is this is the life we live.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And by the way, I know we do this to people,
and but I'm just.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
To hire a stylist, Yeah do podcasts.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
You hired Zendea's stylist. That's his name, La La. It's
this is original la roach to do. And I know
we do this to people, and I'm so used to
it now that I'm it doesn't occur to me to
not like, at least, you know, put on a sweater
and then I'll do a different podcast and I'll show
up like right out of the shower with basically my
robe and be upset that I'm being filmed.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh yeah, it's it's rough out there in terms of
you're just and the lights. It's all overhead. It's all
well lit. You really need to like be on top
of it for a thing that's supposed to.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Be casual, but now you make the clips to get in.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's not the gen zs took over our live perform
like we're supposed to be dirtback.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No I know, I actually trot back.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Can I let us be a dirt bat?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, here's what I'll say. When I was like younger,
I would be and especially because I came up in Boston,
I would be almost somewhat alienated by the slightly older
guy comedians that would be like that would be like
you know, stained crew neck sweatshirt, ill fitting jeans, you know,
one boat shoe and one birkenstock on stage. And now

(13:39):
the older I get, the more I'm like, that's who
I am, That's who I was meant to be. And
I was gas lit into thinking I have to, like,
I don't know, do like look nice or something. It's like,
I am meant to be Bill Burr.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, I'm like letting you know what's up with society.
And now I have to be like I'm spending eighty
dollars blowing out my hair.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, no, it's not right.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'm spending thousands on a stylist. Like it's really nuts.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But it is like when people were complaining a few
years ago about hot comedy and being like this is
so annoying, Like look at all these hot people taking
instagrams and calling that comedy. It's like, we actually we
did it. They were kind of right, like it's actually
just kept getting harder and harder, and you actually have
to be hotter and hotter, and now you have to
be hot while you move as well. You have to
be hot while you talk and while you move.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I just wanted everyone to know. The biggest controversy in
the comedy scene in twenty nineteen was that shows had photographers.
That was the biggest thing everyone was. They were like,
I can't believe I go to a show now and
there was a photographer and I have to look nice. Well,
cut to now you are basically filming an Academy Award
winning Cinematography nominated movie. Every single time you did, I've
seen comedians.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm not even talking like a little tripod. I'm talking
heavy equipment bags. They're putting poles together.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We met someone in San francs or not met. Our
friend who was in San Francisco told us here shall
remain nameless. He blew out someone to film his set
because he had something he was like planning on post it.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I was like, that's not right, and he's right, and
he's right to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
And guess what he's literally he's doing and his and
it's good and that's how people learn about it. What
am I expecting people to fly to New York to
see me at the Bellhouse if they want to know
what my stand up is like?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
The clips are good, it's just like it is a
live medium.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes it's a live medium and.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's taken away. But the thing is the hot girl comedy.
I was so into it because a feminism where I
was like, they always told us you can't dress like this,
you have to be we're asking you have to do this.
So I liked seeing a little flimsy top. I liked
seeing a crop top. I liked that, but now, why
is it pushed on me suddenly? I have to I
have to be like a polly Pocket in the morning.

(15:47):
I tried on like seven outfits. I'm like, we're talking,
Oh my god, but no, I'm thrilled. I'm grateful to
be here. Of course I should be better because I
do want to meet a lover too, and I think
I have to put out a better aura.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
What sort of lover are we talking?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Like?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I want I want a partner, let's get married. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I mean I want something unhealthy. Yeah, I
want to be love bombed into being married within a month.
But I will be fine with a healthcare relationship if
forced up on me.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So what is your ideal courtship?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I want someone to come up to me and be like, Wow,
you're so cool. I'm gonna take you out and I'll be.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Like okay, and they pick you up.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I can't. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm like, you kind of want like con vibes?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You want rom con vibes?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I want a little romance. I
want a little Travis Taylor.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I do Do you want like respectable?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I want to be respected absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Do you want like respectable Prince Charming or do you
want like sort of like dirt bag with a heart
of gold, like Tommy Lee, not Tommy Lee.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
So what am I? What's Tommy Lee? And what like?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
What's and like? And like Prince Charming? From from fully
a Disney movie, A cartoon man, a cartoon man?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Is it like Seth Rogue? I guess I would go
more Tommy Lee, but I can't. I need someone.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Seth Rogan isn't middle.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Seth Rogen's in the middle. I want a Seth Roges Okay, damn.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
What's your opinion on dating other comedians?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I've only been into actually serious relationships and one
probably wasn't. It was more serious in my heads. And
they were both comedians.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Mm so not a post.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's different genders, different genders, that's kind of yeah, comedians
can be any gender.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
People don't know that.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm just saying, yeah, but I got you know, I got.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
To want You're in a long you want a long
term relationship?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes, wow, I'd be like if I can get If
you want to dick me down well and leave, I will.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I will be okay with that.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
That's totally yeah. Okay, Well, our dms are open, we
have people of all genders.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
This is what I've been doing on the podcast, where
it's like I do have a Netflix special coming out,
but also it's been mostly like my way and what
is a Netflix special called night Owl? Okay, there was controversy.
Did you guys see the movie American Fiction?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, I had a moment like that where, you know,
so I as a joke, let's see if we can
get dumb bitch cleared. And then Netflix called and goes,
we love dumb Bitch, and I was like, I can't
call my am first hour dumb bitch. But I understand
that it's funny totally. I just like I was. I
was being silly, but thank you for clearing it. But
I'm gonna go with night Owl. And they go, oh,

(18:16):
I couldn't believe.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I mean, dumb bitch would have been would have done?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Really? I mean unfortunately it does draw you in.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, it does draw me in. It's just I talk
about my family. It's my first one, and in this climate,
I can't call myself a dumb bitch. I can't be
the dumb bitch in this So okay, I'm like a smart,
amazing woman.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
This is actually you're pointing to something that I think
is really important. I think reclamation of insults is over. Oh,
I think I fully agree. Like I think it used to.
You know, women would like reclaim bitch. Gay guys would
reclaim the f slur, you know, And it's like, I
actually think at this point we are in such a
post irony versus earnestness world that you can't risk reclaiming

(18:56):
anything because you're immediately on the side of the oppressor.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah. I also think it's gotten so so lazy, where
like someone will be like, you're dressed badly, and then
that person will put out a T shirt that says
like I'm dressed badly, and it's like, no, no, you
can't reclaim every like insult, like I have to let
it rest.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Nasty women unfortunately ruined reclamation.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Nasty women and like bag dolables, deplorables. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I think that nasty women and deplorables became so confusingly
coded that it broke people's brains. And now you can't
you can't reclaim dumb bitch.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
No.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
That's the thing. Like if people respected women, I could
be like, huh, I'm a dumb bitch. But I can't
do that because people most society don't think that women
are human. Yes, so that's the thing. I wish I
could have fun, but.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I have fun is bad fun as legal. There's been
an executive order.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
We could have fun together, but we can't let the
other people have fun on our ship.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Because of the ecosystem of our media environment, there's no
we in them. Anything you say is a clip that
will then be seen by a right wing in so
and then they will be.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Like, oh, she's a dumb bitch. Yeah, she's the dumb
bitch and she knows it.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Sam. What were you saying well about this like reclaiming
insults and stuff. Have you heard about like digital Munchausen. Yes,
I've been like obsessed with this concept where people are creating.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I know there was that New York mag story where
this girl was being cyberbullied and it turns out it
was her mother.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I read this whole story and that's where I learned
about digital Munchausen. And so people will create like bullies
for themselves online and bully themselves so they can be
like someone called me a dumb bitch. Now I can
be like post a screenshot and be like, look at
what's happening in my DMS. I am a dumb bitch
and I'm proud of it. Like totally, it's this whole cycle.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think this is I'm sorry to bring generations into it,
but I actually think it's a very millennial thing to
be like to fetishize being persecuted online, and it's sort
of like, okay, why not cut out the middleman, I'll
do the persecution myself immediately. I have a t shirt line.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, there was that like Gia Tolentino article about like
how or essay about how, Like that's literally how you
succeed now is if you like, if you get enough
people to hate you, then you can like come back
from the hate and then people will support you double
and it's just like a it's almost like a little
engine to keep your name up.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
I think that's literally why we haven't reached We've Sam
and I have not reached the next echelon of success
is because we don't have enough haters. And I'm not kidding, no.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
You both are just like so smart and cute. I
like it's tough, so funny, great games. Yeah, what is
there to hate. I mean, I think it's because if
your podcast was called Gaytio Lab, you'd get the hate.
People might not. People might not get it in thinker
straight and then they like it.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
But I think the fact that we're quote unquote making
fun of straight culture, which by the way, we're not
celebrating it obviously if someone, if someone didn't get the
ironic bent to it, they could be like, oh, they're
doing reverse you know, like heterophobia.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Well no, straight up. Cayle Nori Reid was on Caleb's
podcast and they said, it's cool that our dads are
dead because it's one less white man alive. And then
it right wingers are like, look at this death call.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
It was on libs of TikTok.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I don't know what that is. I heard about that,
but I didn't. I don't know what I was.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Just don't don't google, don't look into it, don't look
into it.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm not looking into anything anymore. It's all own. Just
give me cute animals, cute animals, sexy people, Taylor Swift
outfits like, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You heard it here first, folks, George, should we do
our first segment? Oh my god, I would absolutely love
to wait.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
George introduced it. You're You're there.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know okay, well as everyone knows, including past Guestly's
a tracker. Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and
in this segment, we test your familiarity with in complicity
and straight culture by asking a series of completely nonsensical
rapid fire questions where you have to choose this thing
or this other thing. And the one rule is you
can't ask any follow up questions about how the game works,
otherwise we will call Netflix and change the name to

(23:11):
dumb bitch.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
In order to tell you.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, So let's see six inch heels or foot long
sub foot long sub?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Okay, unprecedented times or underappreciated bust to rhymes.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I think bustes normally appreciate it. Oh, unprecedented times.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Charlie's Angels or New Jersey Devils.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
New Jersey, I mean Charlie's Angels.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
You were tricking me, tripping on Mollie or admitting you
got me Mollie.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Summering in Spain or muttering something profane.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Muttering something profane.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Losersh behavior or Jesus is my savior.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Losersh behavior, Lazy Sunday or busy Phillips, lazy Sun.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Wow, okay, Oscar nominated or Chaucer educated.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Oh I don't know that is Oscar.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's a Chaucer Canterbury Tales.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah no, no, no, no, actually no no.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah no, it's not gonna let's go ahead, not register
with me. I actually I took this class in college
that was like the entire semester was about one like
alt Chaucer piece, and I was really bad at it
and didn't understand like you're reading one book the whole
time and like really you know, deep diving in and
each day I would be like going and pretend I

(24:40):
knew what I was talking about and had no idea.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Chaucer was one of those people where not to sound
anti intellectual, but I know in my heart I will
never actually read his writing. I missed the boat in college.
I'm not going to actually on my own be like
what are these tales about?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I have to say, it's not gonna have written in like,
you know, old English. And of course he was trying
to t was trying to get us to like read
it out loud in like the accurate way, and the
way that it always ended up sounding Jamaican. Like there
was a sentence that I remember because it became a
joke in our friend group where it was like who
yaffing me drinking? And so we go we would just

(25:17):
be like, oho yaffing me drinking? And I am addicted
to it. So if you've ever heard me say who
yaffing me drinking? That's what it is. Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Now there's your T shirt line.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, you'll have the djer. I can't even pronounce that?
Was this an English? What oo's can't? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, it's like old old English, Old English.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Now I forced my school. I was like I want
to be an AP English and they're like, you really can't.
And I was like I don't care. I want to
be an AP English and so I did. And then
I got a C N A D. And like there
was no reason I should have been.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I would have Why did you want to be an
AP English?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Because my uh friend Veronica's a year older than me,
said like, this teacher was the best teacher changed her life,
and I was like, oh, I want the best English teacher.
And in my head I was really good at reading
and writing like that's it. But I wasn't. I wasn't
at all, and I had no idea what was going on. Everyone,
like everyone now I think is working in science, like
everyone in that classroom. I'm like, you are working at Google.

(26:14):
But I wanted it. I wanted to be smarter than
I was. That's and still maybe.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well there was I think there was something in high
school where there was like, you know how today people
will be like, dressed for the body you have, not
the like, don't dress aspirationally for the body you wish
you had. And there's something about people in high school
they were like, well it would even I remember doing
this in college where would be like, but it would
be awesome if I was in ap even though I
like shouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
No, like I shouldn't be at all. But because at
one point we got a reading assignment. I didn't even
understand the syllabus. I didn't read the intro. I read
the years of like the author. So I read from
like eighteen something to nineteen something. I was up all
night after swim practicing reading. Didn't understand anything, and everyone
just read page one through twelve. It was like the

(26:59):
years of the author's life. That should have been the
first clue of like, you can't even read the syllabus
you've got to go.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But see, I think different.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I just wanted you're a classic artist, though you had
a different everyone else read the intro. You read like
random pages. That's literally what Picasso did and that's why
you have a Netflix special. They work at Google.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Well, then the teacher. The one thing she did was
I made we had to make mobiles mobile.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yes, yeah, for all their style. Yeah, oh for the
Great Gatsby. Yeah, what the hell kind of school did
you go to?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Did she just have like a baby or something and
was like, I need some toys for this damn thing.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Now it was like a color So I did, like
this cool, and she goes, you've got an eye for it.
So I went into advertising because she said I made
this cool Great Gatsby collage mobile and then yeah, like
I loved her. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Why schools are obsessed with making you make like Diorama's mobile,
like just three D installations, but I loved that.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I loved when we could do a sketch a video.
I loved anything that wasn't actually reading and writing. But
I wanted to be someone that.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Of course you fetishize, like the idea of being an
intellectual We all do. That's why we're here at this
podcast country.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
We just talked about anti like.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, No, you can't reclaim anything, and
you can barely read and write these days.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
No, I have a few book yeah. Whatever, it's not
interesting to be like I can't read. Most people can't anymore.
Most of the country can't read.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
No, it's really sad.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I'll read an article, of course, I'll.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Read an article down start to finish.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Do you guys know grade in doves anymore? We really?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh my god, I know we didn't grade you in doves. Wow, okay, Sam,
what do you think?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well, you know, we have to greet you a little
bit harder because you've been here before, so you know
how they work.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're sort of the most knowledgeable guests we ever have.
You're always calling us out on how we're not following
our own rules. When you did the live show, I
was shocked. I was like, oh, so, so you know
more about this than we do.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm very into it, But that live show. Yeah, I
love the live shows. I'm thinking of your another live
show that you guys had that I was just in
the audience for and it went it was wild.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I'm gonna say, just to keep you on your tow,
how what's Toronto?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Did you get a hotel room? Because you went during
Taylor Swiftly and you didn't have a room, And I go,
what are you guys going to do? And you said,
I'm not worried at all. I want to know how
what happened with your lodging for that?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
What did Oh you know I ended up staying in
a pretty nice hotel.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Actually, yeah, I mean we both grew down for it,
but we.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Threw down for it. I mean, I will say on
record we maybe maybe that was the only show in
my entire life where I didn't make money. Like actually,
looking at the books, I think I broke.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Even nicely in your entire life and out of town show,
oh honey, I'm like, I feel like I've definitely done
out of town shows where I don't make money.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I guess in the very beginning, when you're like driving
just to do like it's a professional I think, yes,
let's say, in the last five years.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Sure, yeah, I don't think we made a single dollar.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, I don't, and I think I I personally, I
think Sam did a better job planning than I did.
I think I personally might have lost money on that trip,
which happens. Listen, we made money in San Francisco, so.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
There you go. Well, and the memories will last forever.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And the memories will last forever. We had such a
nice time. It was such a great show. You know,
sold out, can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Like without it? That's another thing online, Like I didn't
know everyone was selling out until the internet too. Like
I was just on the road having a good total name.
And then that's why my tour now is called tickets available.
That's what it's called. That's the poster, like, honey, there's
there gets.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Available, dumb bitch in town, Lisa, We've we're trying to
make this thing happen where we are moving on from
selling out culture because there is this pressure to sell out.
Everyone's posting about selling out, and it's like, no, no, no, no no,
I don't do it for that. I do it to
sell seventy five percent of the tickets and that's perfect.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Are you kidding? In Houston, my late shows had under
thirty people in a room made for I would say
two to three hundred.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Is that true?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes, Liza, you know what's funny?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I performed for like sometimes I perform for fifteen to
fifty people in giant rooms.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I consider you to be like of my certainly of
my friends and the people I know well, like one
of the most successful.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
No, I'm really I'm really respected by my peers. And
I've learned that I shouldn't have even thought about that.
I should have just gone No.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
It's absolutely true.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Like even at Edinburgh, like comedians would come seeming they
would come multiple times, and I felt so like like
that really made me feel so good about myself. But
I needed a grasp on to anything because I was
performing for seven people in a trailer.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh no, college one of the things.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
But I loved it. I loved it. I have fun,
that's the thing. Like I get to do this and
I feel grateful. But because you see all these other
people selling out, all of a sudden, I'm thinking about
it when I have fun for twenty I don't care.
I don't care. I do care. I feel bad for
these venues that book me being like she's the hottest
act and down and then closer they're like, can you

(32:03):
please post again? I'm like yeah, yeah, they're away. They're
shocked too that I can't sell tickets.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
But I think this is like, I think this is
one of these big secrets. Is I think a lot
of people are not selling as many tickets as you
think they.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Ooh, don't you think? I think I think you're a
PC right when people.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I've know someone that canceled the show because the didn't
sell enough tickets, And I was like, if I only
perform places i've sold out, I've I would have had
maybe seven shows in my career. Like, what are you
talking about?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
All these people? I once heard someone who I considered like, wow,
you know here I am slumming it. And they figured
it out and they're going viral and they're big on whatever,
and they had to cancel a show in like they
had to cancel an entire East Coast leg of their tour.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's really And then yeah, you're either not
selling or you're a hot shot, then you're selling. There's
no that's really hard, no middle class between Well. Today,
so my friend works at Live Nation and this is
her big project. But I'm going to Madison Square Garden
today to watch a Dungeons and Dragons podcast.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Hmmm, I'm familiar, Oh you are, Yeah, I never listen
to it, but I know what you're talking about. This
is like drop out people.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I have no clue. I was like, you know what,
I want to see what this is. I want to
see who's what this is?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
God?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You know that like David Foster Wallis essay about him
going of course I don't. Okay, Well it's like a
famous essay where when he goes on a cruise. Okay,
so it's like he goes on a cruise, it's called
a supposedly fun thing I'll never do again. It's been
like sort of copied many times. There's been like a
lot of essays since then about like, you know, intellectual

(33:33):
writers going on cruises and then just like gawking at
how completely unsophisticated and terrible are these people? Disgusting, normal,
testing whatever. And I think the contemporary version of that
would literally be a writer going to a Dungeons and
Dungeons and Dragons live podcast recording at Madison Square Garden.
That is our current version of like depraved cruise culture.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
No, there might, No, I think there's worse than D
and D.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I do.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think, like I guess kill Tony being at my garden.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I think, yeah, But there's something about Dan like a
D and D podcast to go to at least kill Tony.
You're seeing a stand up media, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Wow, they're just playing the game, but you're cheering. I
guess you're the dice rolls.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, and I don't I don't know. I know I
sound like elitist or something.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
No, completely, I'm actually being really rude. So I went
to my friend's a professional wrestler. So I went to
an aw Arthur Ash and my friend turned to me
who I brought, and she goes, there's not enough girls here.
It smells. She goes, it smells and I looked, and
I go, yeah, it smells like gross guys that like wrestling.
So I'm curious that the smells of D and D. Ooh,

(34:41):
that's like what I'm trying to compare. If I'm being
like fully honest, which is even ruder than what you said,
but just said they were dumb and cruise, and I go,
I want to know how they compare and smell to
wrestling fans.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
See this, I think there's something even more nefarious where
like that is, like I wish that was the D
and D that was happening where it would be like
nerdy losers. But there's something where it's like respect a bull,
D and D where it's like we're doing it like
with a comedy twist, and we're doing it like we're
like actually smart and we like do this knowingly and
we like have wives and we're like cool. And I'm like,

(35:10):
that's almost like worse in a weird way. Like I
preferred it when it was like a niche nerdy thing,
and now it's like someone it's almost reminding me of
like in twenty ten when everyone was like, yeah, I'm
a freaking nerd, Like yeah, I watched Oar Wars and
it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no enough.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's such a trap to be in comedy talking about
the idea of nerds. It's like there's no one nerdier
than people who are into comedy. Like I I the
idea that I'm like making fun of people who are
into dungeon dragons. Are you kidding me? Like I literally
grew up watching like Joan Rivers on YouTube. Every night.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I was would say, yeah, Hollywood Squares, that's yeah, that's
what I was really into.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know, Liza, I'm realizing you called us out, and
then we still never gave you a duve score. I
think we should.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I think we I'm gonna give you an intentionally low
score to sort of a fire under your ass and
because I want you to do even better next time.
And I'm gonna say it's eight seventy.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh wow, that's a low score. That is.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
But I thought you were going eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I thought you could just call it eight, be like eight.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
No, no, I'm not. I'm a fair teacher.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was like getting her.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
It's because I chose the sub. But I like it.
I like to eat a sandwich. It's my favorite food
and I'll never vote against it.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Oh, I would definitely choose sub over sixteen shields. That
sounds so uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, And lazy Sunday. That's the best day of the week.
I love a lazy Sunday. No, it's really true, Like
I love freaks and geeks. But like, honey, you know,
she's not she's not prevailing.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Should we get into the topic, I would, Actually, we
don't know what your topic is, so we're gonna find
out live on air.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Okay, my straight topic is the paper goods and cleaning product.
I'll have a grocery store.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Wow, whoa yeah, whoa to.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Me, please paper goods and cleaning product. I'm trying to
want to it's usually one I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
The speaking of paper.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Goods meaning like notebooks and stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
No, meaning like paper towels.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Oh oh oh yeahh toilet.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Papers, toilet paper, toilet scrubs, like ziploc bags.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, like non edible home stuff that's so interesting.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
You need it, but it's not really bringing much.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
But you can't have society without it. You need people
pro creating. You need paper towels, but it's not actually
good for anything, and.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
It's bad for the environment. Everything is made of microplastics.
Everything is getting thrown out, not recycled, and.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's like you're throwing a party. So you're like, greet
the paper plate. It's no thought, no, like we just
need it easy, get it in, get it into the
ocean quick.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think there's something where you're like in the grocery
store and you're like, you know, looking at the produce
and there's romance, and you're like looking at the meat
and being like what meat do we have? And then
you like go to that place and you're like, oh,
suddenly I'm in a los Like suddenly I'm in a
or with like very practical items where you're like it
like ruins, the like I'm a French shopper.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's the least glamorous isle for sure. If you
can find in any other aisle, you could at least
find one fancy thing. Even if you're let's say you
know you're looking at the dried pasta, you're gonna find
one slightly yeah, the fresh one that's like in little.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Or a new flavor of something.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
You're at the yogurt isle.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh that looks good. That isle you're never like, oh,
let's just walk down and you're like, oh yeah I
need this, Yeah, yeah, I need it.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's very like provisions. It's like things you need to
survive rather than things that will make your life better.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
And we need straight people of course, you know.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
What, they're not bringing flair to the game.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I think that isle is also funny because that's so
like like wife and husband going grocery shopping. It's like
husband go get trash bags. Like there's something like so
manageable about Like I'd be like I'm that role in
my relationship and It's very like, Sam, go get paper towels,
and I'm like, perfect, there's no way to mess this up.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Oh that's so true. It's the one aisle. Even if
you get the completely wrong thing, even if you get
the wrong kind of plate or it's too small or whatever,
at least it's still a plate. Like there's no actual
way to mess it up. Whereas if you tell a man,
can you get some parsley, he will come back with,
you know, a Delaicotta squash.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
What do you guys think about the like the internet
meme thing right now? Of like, I love it.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I thought I was gonna bring it up.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I know what you're gonna say, the male man my
insta cart shopper is a man or whatever, and they
got me this and it's like completely wrong. All the time.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
This woman had a white monster she wanted a white
monster energy and the person send a photo of a
red bull and she goes, no, no, no, a white monster
energy And then that was the next photo and it's like,
so it is there, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
It is there?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
So like what is going on? Why I would be livid?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's so confusing, as we all know, it is scratching
than ever.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So you bring me frozen mozzarella sticks, and it's what,
I don't get this.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
There is a way that men Oh god, here I go.
I know, here we go with men versus women, which
we are promised ourselves we wouldn't do.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
There's a way that like, but it is men versus No,
it's true. When they're just like you're a man hater,
it's like, yeah, the evidence makes me feel like I
should hate men, Like, yeah, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Okay, At the risk of truly sounding so generous centralist,
there's a way in which, like, there's a way of
thinking that is where you think in categories. So it's like, Okay,
something is the shape of a stick and it's made
of cheese, so therefore string cheese and frozen montrella stick
are in that category. You can either think in categories
or you think in specifics. And I think the like

(40:45):
it's almost it's like, let's say the straight thing is
to think in categories. So you're asking me, can I
get a diet's snapple and I'm like, uh, here's an apple.
It sort of is like yeah, like rhyme, so it's
it's close enough.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, And then if you get well, you should have
been more specific, but there's a photo of it on
the app.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
And it's also like it's okay for you to use
your own like just take a breath and make the
step of using your critical thinking skills, but.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
They don't want to. But then it's like, why are
you even doing this shop because I'm thinking of the
thing is my Instagram knows what makes me mad. And
it's basically like housewives being mistreated, right, Like I just
like I like gender equality, sure, so they'll just show
me a bad husband and it's basically like, hey, will
you put the leftovers away? And then when the wife
opened the fridge, it was just he took the pots
and pans and put it in there was like, well,

(41:30):
you should have been more specific and said in the bowl.
And then the stitch was like, but you've never seen
her do that, Like you know she puts it in
a bowl, so why wouldn't you just grab a bowl?
And it's like, because he doesn't want to ever do
anything for anyone ever again. And that's how I solve
the problem. I am by I you know, I'm out there,
but I don't do dishes, I don't have cutler I
do not cook and I have paper plates.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
You have paper plates in your home day to day.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
And bowl and plastic.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, solving the problem.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
You're solving the problem by by not Ever, He's explained.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I'm I will, I don't want. I'm like a man
at times.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
You're a man.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I'm a bad dad. I'm like, I'm well John Goodman,
so good. But I'm like, that's the thing, Like I
hate men and what they do to the women in
their lives, but I am the man in anywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
You're like, you can't be lazy at me. I'll be
lazy at you.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
First You're like, I but I don't want to put
But I'm not hurting anyone, and I'm not asking anyone
to do it. I know that I don't want to
do dishes. I will throw things away. I don't want it.
That's not the life I'm living. Yeah, my parents didn't
move here, so I could like do a dish, and
so I would rather. But I also don't go out
to eat. I'll eat an uncrustable. So sometimes usually I
try not to use anything.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I see, I see, but if I but so eating
on top of the sink, sort of hovering on top
of hovering by the sink, eating an uncrustable saying this
is my American dream. Thank you to my mom and dad.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I will never ever wash a dish.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I feel like I don't even make sense anymore because
I'm doing this. But yeah, I just have set paper
and plus yeah, I say that I'm done and I
put it. It's gone, and that's it. I mean, I'm
also in a small space where my living room is
my kitchen, and I don't want to do dishes. It's
just like not the way I want to live.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So going back to the Seth Rogan type that you're
looking for, is the dream that the partner would like
incorporate into your lifestyle or elevate it and be like
riding it on a horse with porcelain plates, and finally
you get to have the plates and then and then
he he or she also does them.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
I would be fine with either, because it's not like
fair to put that all on a person. But yeah,
of course i'd like someone that has the wits.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You know, I'm worried like some.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Of the because I go to fish and eddies. I
like looking at them. I just can't have them in
the home.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I once saw fish and eddies oh, Lisa, I'm wondering though,
if there's a there's sort of a Chicken the Egg
thing happening here where like I can't tell if like
you like, finding the perfect partner will then elevate you
to having plates in your home, or if you having
plates in your home will elevate you to finding the

(44:13):
perfect partner, Like.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
No, that's true. It's a quote I talk about a lot,
like be the be the list, be like who you're
looking for. But I don't want, ever want to do
if I find someone that really cares about cleanliness, I
think how I will deferentiate between like the men I
watch on Instagram. I'm gonna be grateful. I'm gonna be excited.
I'm gonna be like, wow, you're so good. I'm gonna
brag about how they clean. I'm gonna be like, I can't.

(44:37):
I don't know what I would do without this person.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Rather than like nagging them and being like, let me
play my video games.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
No, I would be like, I sweep it, can't believe it,
thank you. But also if that person gets annoyed, I
pay someone to come clean.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Sure, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Fine to like contribute more or I'll pay for all
the cleaning products or like, I don't want to take
advantage of a person. But I also know, like maybe
I'll change and grow and that's a maturity and I'm
back on wellbutrin like who knows.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
But I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I don't want to. I want to be like friendly boy.
It's like no, I who I am? But she's single
and I don't want that. But it's very do I
get the dishes first?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Well, this is here's the thing you're you're pointing to
a sort of this is a this is a There
is a type of New Yorker that lives exactly how
you live, and often that's actually very glamorous, like it's
Carrie Bradshaw. Yes, it's using your oven for storing your
cashmere sweaters because you would never because your closet is
overflowing and you would never cook. But it's so tough

(45:36):
to find that line where something like that can be
either the most glamorous or like the most sad, depending
on how you sell it to the world. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, I like it, But I recently went not toe
You with friends and I did order buttered noodles and
everyone was really like not happy with me.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
But wait, explain why they were upset with you because
you were like bringing down the classy lets.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
They're just like, what are you doing? You can make that,
like you can make a buttered noodle, and I was like,
but I don't want to make it. M I want
to go to my body. I want to just like
be on my block. Yeah, give me a bagel with butter.
I don't know, I don't want to do it. But
if I had a lover that cooked for me, I
mean I would be like on my knees nightly like

(46:21):
I wouldn't. Yeah, I'd be honest. I did do sexual
favors for food for sure, and clean and clean.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Wait, okay, I want to go back to the paper
goods and home goods eyes.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I also think with that it's like cookouts plot lucks
to me are very straight too, that is involved in
like plastic and paper.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah. Well, the thing with cookouts, barbecues, things of that
nature is Tiva's Tivas. You are able to. The reason
men get so absolutely excited about it is because they're like, oh,
finally we can just do grilling meat without having to
worry about like having a little ring around the clock.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Now you're gonna love this. So I had this is
another like Instagram feeds me couples that aren't, you know, equal,
So it was this woman like kept being annoyed that
she had to get all the stuff together for her
husband's parties. So he wanted to have one and she's like, no,
I'm tired, like I'm not going to do it, and
he's like, I'll do it on my own. And he
went and all he bought was me like he didn't,
he didn't even he didn't get it. And then he

(47:22):
was screaming at her that there was nothing else her
chips or condiments. But it was like, yeah, you got
you still got to grab the paper. It was wild.
He just they just brought the meat. What was that side?
Did I ruined the body? No?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It's not no, I mean you know what the s
I was the s. I was like, I'm truly like,
because we all know people who act this way and
are not able to use like simple logic to follow directions,
and I really am like, what more is there left
to do? How at this stage everyone has tried so hard,

(47:58):
their wives, they're done, they're mothers, and still they are
not able to go to a growth They don't.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Want to because my thing is like because they already
think they're better than us, and everything that we do
is stupid, right because another thing straight from Instagram. I
truly don't have any original thoughts. But it's like, how
come you know how to behave at work?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yes? No, that you're so right?

Speaker 3 (48:19):
So you know how to be at work and be
a high powered attorney or executive and play gate, you know,
tennis with your friends and you're not You're not losing
it at work, you're not scream, you're not hitting your coworker.
But you're going home and not able to behave all
of a sudden and can't fold a sheet. Then you're
not the better sex. Stop being in charge of government.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
There's yes, there isn't.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
There's a sort of mentality that says, the professional sphere
is real, like that's where you step up, and the
domestic sphere is when you shut down. It's almost like
it would be gay to try hard in the domestics sphere.
Whether that's cleaning, whether that's you know, clipping your toenails,
part of your body not visible at work but visible

(49:01):
at home, whether that is like helping out, whether that
is making the bed it's just sort of like that
doesn't count because I'm not getting a promotion based on
making the bed.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, it's like it's antiay capitalists to like make your bed.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yes, yes, it's literally like, well, that's not part of
the economy, so it doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, every home should have its own currency, and that
way you can win points for making your bed.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
You give or take because you know what, my partner
might be cleaning and cooking, but when it's time for
the holidays, you know, I'm gonna buy gifts for their
whole family. Yes, I'm going to make the most thoughtful
little gifts. I'm going to come in with a host gift.
I'm gonna like, you know, chill with your parents and
chat with them and play backgammon with your dad. Like
I'm bringing other things. I'm just not reading or cleaning

(49:54):
or hawer.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
You're saying, Sam, like the idea of a currency is
so I feel like getting your husband like a ticket
for a blowjob for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Literally, but one of your best episodes sorry, weaponizing oral sex.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Weaponizing oral sex, well, because I do think that is
like the Obviously, there are many issues with a woman
giving a man a ticket for a blowjob whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
But I have multiple friends that give blowjobs for their
husbands to do things for them around the house.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Well, but I think it points to Sam's point about like,
so the way into his heart is through being like,
let's play like this is work. So this would be
like if your boss gave you a bonus, but it's
a blowjob. Yeah, so now do you see why this
is sort of real?

Speaker 3 (50:47):
It's transactional even the view of it, cause it's like
it's not even transactional and you're doing something for me.
It's like you're doing something for yourself and it's seen
for me because your home life is my rest exactly exactly.
So it's like, come on, bit, I mean, I did
my laundry and it's like, but that's what. Yeah, I
don't know, but this is all you know. Estra Pewl

(51:10):
or someone like no relationships ever. Fifty to fifty right,
like you both are in relationships. I'm not tell me
how it works.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Mine is not fifty to fifty at all. Misha does
all the cooking, but that's because he cares a lot
about the food, Like I don't like when I cook.
He'll be like, well that you have to add this,
and I'm like, well, like, like i'm cooking, it's gonna
taste a little bit worse, and like yeah, so it's

(51:37):
just like yeah, you cook, you care way more about it.
But I try to like help clean up more like
it's like if you cook, all do the dishes. But
it's still not equal.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
That also comes from respect. It doesn't have to be equal,
it's but it's respect. It's seeing like oh my god,
this person is cooking for me, they're so good at it.
I'm going to help out in this way, or like
I'm going to be so grateful. I think a lot
with hetero it's expected. It's they're entitled to it. And
if it's not there, you're doing something like not woman like.
And that's where the resentment and all that comes from.

(52:10):
Where it's expected. It's not even like this nice, beautiful
thing that you have in your relationship. It's bitch, there
better be food here or what are you bringing into
the table.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
That's the thing we've talked about this before us. It's
definitely a titlement, but it's also there is something no
matter how progressive or you are or how hard you
try to have a fifty fifth relationship. There is something
limiting in a straight relationship because you are always consciously
or not referring back to existing norms. So you're either

(52:40):
following norms or breaking norms. So there's all this pressure
to either be the perfect like fifties couple or be
the perfect progressive twenty twenties Brooklyn couple, and so everything
you do, you're like, Okay, where do I fit in?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Today?

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I was more equal, today, I was more problematic. Today
I was my husban was more feminist. Whereas if you're gay,
because there are fewer existing there's fewer generations of what
it should be like to be a gay couple, you're
like liberated to do whatever you want ideally, Does that
make sense? That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I also think there's so many things that I do
that are like straight guy coded that like, but they
don't have the same trauma attached exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
That's exactly what I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah, yeah, because like I so, for example, that the
guy in the grocery store that is so me. I
am like so fucking stupid in a grocery store. It's
it's insane. Like a famous tale of me when I
was like a teenager, was my mom was like, well,
you go get like twelve like or go get like
five lemons, and I like walked away and then like

(53:45):
ten minutes later, I come back with nothing in my hands,
and I'm like what was I supposed to get? And like,
and that has stayed the way that I am forever.
It's just like I like I either have to like
write it down and be like militant or like I
will just like I'm too spacey. And but because we
are gay, it's like, well, it's you know, he's a creative.

(54:08):
It's not like, oh, he's a man.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's like no one's ever say exactly, no one's ever
saying classic man that you weren't able to get the
five lemons. And and so then what that does is
it enables you to have an actual individual personality. It's
not that's a man, it's that's Sam. Like that is
classic Sam, that he didn't get the five lemons. Not

(54:30):
like that is classic man. He should be put in prison.
I'm a nasty woman.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yes, because you're already outside the noise exactly, you can
just be yeah, and that's I think. Like, but then
I also I know lesbian couples that the fall right
into such gender mask feminre.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Well, couples love mask and fem.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah, they really.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Couples love mask.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
We actually need to talk to lesbian about that. That
is crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
We I think we you need to have a summit
where we have like a true round table of lesbians
because I really need to know more about the inherited
traditions and traumas of mass and fem. Because sometimes when
you hear and you know, we have a lot of
lesbian friends on this podcast, sometimes when you hear discussions
of mask and fem, you're almost like, this is as

(55:20):
ingrained as men and women is in the straight world.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
You created gender within gender.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
You create a gender within this like utopian lesbian separate
to society that you live in.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Gay You guys try to do it with top and Bottom,
but it's so good, it's and also it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Work, Like it doesn't work at all, not.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Taking off in any way. It's a myth.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
No, there's actually something The idea of top and Bottom
has been completely decontextualized from its actual meaning.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, it's mostly just for games for drags exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yes, It's like like when someone says they're literally no
part of me is like so you're penetrating. No, that's
literally not what it's about.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Interesting, but yeah, but even with the dudes, Like what's
so hard with dudes is they seem normal, right, They're
like saying the right thing sometimes, Yeah, like they're they're
they're cleaning, You're like, oh, this is good, and then
all of a sudden they'll be like, well, you know,
I don't think women should have credit cards. You know,
like there's always a hidden thing because of how we're
all raised, where no matter how good and great, there's

(56:27):
just this thing where you look and you go, what
the fuck did you just say?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
But to turn that around, I would say that is
also the case with women, where they seem normal and
then suddenly they'll say like, well the man should make
more money.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
That happens, but that only happens because men go crazy,
Like that's the whole thing. It's like if men acted
normal with women making tons of money, I think it's
kind of when people are like the gay teens are
taking their own lives, and it's like I think it's
the bullying, not the gay. So that's why I feel
with the women making more money, they would love it.
But it's like as soon as you get promoted or
women make more money in a within a straight relationship.

(57:02):
The study show it's like divorce goes up, like all
these different things happen. It's like if men could just
handle it, it would be fine, but it's still valuing.
It's like the pick me of it all, because it's
like I'd rather make less money and have a man
then be on my corporate you know, ladder batty totally Lisa.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Any final thoughts on the aisle at the supermarket that
has paper goods and home and you can have you
could have.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Some fun flare like my ziploc bags are Arthur the
Art of Arc, like there is of deviations.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Of course, my mind went this is different because it's
not in that isle. But my mind went to fun
band aids. One of my favorite things to purchase, like
to have band aids with SpongeBob on them. I mean,
I'm on cloud nine.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah, they're just allo little Yeah, they're tidy for the
little babies. No, I think it's just like you need it.
It's there. It's there for you clean your toilet, get
some bleach, but you know you want to unpleasant vill
it a little yeah, yeah, get a thicker one at
least get it.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
You know, I would like, here's what I think, let's
get the Queer Eye team, the Fab five to redesign
that isle of the supermarket. That would be a fun
I think that would be a very fun project for them.
No one would get hurt, unlike the current status of
that show, where I believe they end up like psychologically
torturing everyone they try to help.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You know what the swiffer wet jet is holding down
the gay community.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Oh that's true. Yeah, swiffer, she is squirts. Yes, No,
swiffer is very queer, I think.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah. All around swiffer like mop.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
And bucket is so traditional. It's so fifties. And then
the swiffer came along and was like.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Skinny, skinny, quick, wipe it down. I love it.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Okay, should we do our final segment.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Let's do our final segment.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Thank you for having me, by the way, it's always
a dream.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Of course. These are our final segments called shout outs.
In this segment, we pay homage to the grand straight
tradition of the radio shout out and shout out anything
that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas. So imagine
twousand and one you're at trol shouting out to your
squad back home about anything that you like. I do

(59:15):
you have one, George?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
You know I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Okay, I have one that I don't think I've done before.
What is of freaks, losers and perverts around the globe?
I want to give a huge shout out, and I
hope I haven't done this before. To straws. I have
started making straws a priority again in my life. I
am in the coffee shop that give me the thing
where there's just a hole and you're supposed to sip

(59:38):
on it, and I say, do you have a straw?
And guess what? I love it because when that ice
is coming at your face, it makes the drinking experience
less fun and you need a straw to get through
the bullshit aka the ice so you can get a
clean sip of your coffee. I find straws to be
so fun, so practical, and I don't know what is
up with their impact on the environment, but I refuse

(01:00:02):
to look into it. One time I got a straw
that was literally just a noodle and they were like,
it's a pasta straw, and I was like, I don't
think you're actually supposed to use just a piece of pasta.
But I thought this is pretty quirky, and I will
think about this straw forever. I love straws and I
love seat turtles, and I hope they are supporting each
other and linking up. Diva wise xoxo, Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
W Yes, I'm with you. I'm straws all the way,
and that stuff about the turtles is not real. That
was I feel that I was pushed by the paper agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
You think that was propaganda, Well, one's not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Better than the other, and we still use plastic. Like
it just felt too weird, Like it felt like a
business deal with billionaires at a camp, like they were
at a summit and we're like, oh yeah, let's push this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I think two things can be true. Obviously, I think
they both are bad and were chosen almost that random
as the one thing we're meant to think is bad,
and I think everyone can agree on that. I do
think they are bad. Sure, It's like I can decide
you can decide what the hot bad thing is at
any given time. You can decide it's microplastics, you can
decide it's straws, you can decide it's fast fashion. All

(01:01:05):
of those are bad.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Period.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I'm doing all of them. I'm filled with plastics.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Oh it's plastics up the wazoo. Okay, I can, I
can go. Let me see, let me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Say, I'm with you. My best is straw, like bags
of I love having drinks at our house with straw.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Oh it's so luxurious. Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Drunk or faster and you're right, the ice coming at me.
It's I don't love it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I hate the fucking ice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Damn. That was a good one. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I thought about it today because I got a coffee
and a little straw.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Okay, let's see. Oh I have a good one. Okay,
all right, what's up Cinophiles around the world. I want
to give a shout out to movies having intermissions. I
just saw The Brutalist, and a lot has been said
about how the Brutalists? Have you seen it, Lisa? So
it has built into the film and intermission, so in
the middle of it you get a blank screen and

(01:02:03):
then it counts down fifteen minutes and people have been like, oh,
what a like dick swinging move from the director, blah
blah blah, like he thinks he's hot.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Guess what I got a diet coke, I went to
the bathroom, I came back. I was ready for the
second half. I reset my engagement meter. I was ready
to pay attention again the second half. A lot of
people are saying the second half is bad. I actually
thought it was sort of fabulous and how crazy it got,
and I ultimately enjoyed the film a lot. Shout out
to Adrian Brody. I'm so happy he's getting a second Oscar.
But I want to say, if you're doing a long movie,

(01:02:34):
which I support, if you're doing a three and a
half hour movie, sure put in an intermission. It is
a win win for everyone. It's a win for the
movie theater because I'm gonna go get my diet coke.
It is a win for me because I get to,
like reset my attention. It's a win for the filmmaker.
More people are gonna go see their movies. And it's
a win for society because we are going in a
more sort of euro chic direction. You're suddenly at the opera.

(01:02:54):
You're in you know, you're in Italy. You are going
out and getting a you know, an aperol sprits in
the middle of it. Afterwards, you're gonna go have some spaghetti.
You're gonna have a steak free and so it's truly
a no brainer to me. I don't understand why it
doesn't happen more. Hell put it, put it an intermission
in a ninety minute rom com from I care like.
It doesn't have to be a big movie. So I

(01:03:15):
just want to shout out to intermissions. I want to
see more of them, and I want to see them now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
They're killing it because I have peeings. I'm always scared
I got a pee? How do I plan? I'm taking
such little SIPs on the pee. I would love a break.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I just want to say, as a Regal member, a
proud Regal man, hot dog in Regal you go, you
get a small diet Pepsi, because of course, the one
flaw Pepsi n'll cook at the Regal branded establishments. The
their small size is truly as big as a bathtub.
And I'm not I can't control myself. You're gonna give

(01:03:53):
me a bathtub size drink. I'm gonna have it all.
So what happens is I have it all within the
first twenty minutes, and then I'm pretty much peeing my pants.
For the last three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Hours I've done. I did permanent damage to myself during
anatomy of a fall trying to hold my pee. That
was crazy, and I'm I'm very grateful for intermissions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Yeah, that's good. Maybe I'll see the Brutalist. JK. I
want to see Baby Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Wait, I feel like you would like the Brutalist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
You think so well, I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Talk about meet a man at the Brutalist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Ew do I dress slutty and go to the Brutalist?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Literally?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
I would love it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Oh, I want to know what you think of Baby
Girl too?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Okay, Well I saw a photo of Nicole Kibben crawling
and I went, oh, nothing, okay, what up sweetheart? Sexy
ladies and everyone in between.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
So thank you for being inclusive.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
All right, so my shout out right now. I started
True Blood yesterday. I'm about four episodes in. No one
told me it was softcore porn. I've never been warning
in my fucking life. It's sex. It's non stop, rough,
cool sex. So thank you, and I'm glad to be
horned up by a show. Thanks. So that's that's basically it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
No True Blood is the horny show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I didn't know I thought it was like Twilight Vampires.
I didn't care. I put it on and I was like,
oh my god, she's like hanging from a hook getting
fucked from behind. I'm like, oh, I could get behind
this show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
I know, I sort of think Twilight a lot of
the more like ya vampire stuff hurt True Blood because
people think that's what it is, because they put it
in the same category as Twilight. Okay, you do have
a heart out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Please tell everyone again once again what your special is called,
where they can find it, and when it comes out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
And I am fun and funny, I just obviously serious
when it becomes to sex. You know, I go forward
to promote the special and then I end up talking
about unequal you know, inequality. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
You are one of the most beloved stand up comedians.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Very nice of you. I love I love doing comedy
and I love being able to hang out with you
guys and Netflix night Owl Tuesday, January twenty eighth. I
really want to be in the top ten. I know
it's desperate to be you know, vote for me, vote
for me Dancing with the Stars, but like, I want
to be in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, just press play. I guess what, even if you're
not a comedy fan, press play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Leave the room.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
It's still gonna count It's just still gonna County.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
So I can be on watch What Happens Live.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Yes, Oh, I think it's in the cards. I think
it's really in the cards for you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I think I got to be in the top ten
to do it. I think that's I do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
All right, let's get let's get Mullanie out of there.
And we're talking Lisa Triggers h Lanyou.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I would love if Mlanie was in the top ten.
We're talking like a Nazi comedy yet, like, yeah, the
AI Christmas whatever. I don't know what I'm saying anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I should go No, it's okay. Well, this has been
a real delight. Thank you so much for doing the pod.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
You guys are amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Bye bye podcast and now want more, Subscribe to our
page for two extra episodes a month, discord access and
more by heading to Patreon dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Slash Stradio Lab, and for all our visual earners, free
full length video episodes are available on our YouTube now
get back to work. Stradio Lab is a production by
Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Han Sony and Olivia Aguilar.
Co produced by by Wang, edited and engineered by Adam Abolos.
Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grub. Theme music by
Ben Kling
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