January 22, 2021 • 58 mins
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Get ready to amazed by the wizard of Weird. This
is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren,
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you can do at home, and a lot more. On
this edition of the show, Enter Dimensional Monsters. I want
to read an email to you I received from a listener.
It's kind of long, but certainly worth reading. Sent to
me from Michael Grady, who is a drafter and designer
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in Ellis County, Texas. This is an experience he had
in nineteen He said, one night, my friends and I
decided to do something out of the ordinary. We wanted
to explore the urban legends of the surrounding area. I
got a call from my buddy who wanted to go
pick up our friend K and go to an old,
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abandoned cemetery. We had heard all kinds of stories and
legends about this place, so we wanted to see if
they were true. It took an hour or so of driving,
some of it down a dirt road, but we found
what we thought was it. There were headstones going back
to the teen hundreds, which seemed pretty cool to teenagers
like us. We tested some goose goofy legends and as
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we suspected, nothing happened. We laughed it off and started
to make our way back to my car, and that's
when we heard rustling in the bushes. For a moment,
we stood frozen in fear, and then used a flashlight
to find it was just an armadillo foraging. So as
we drove away, we decided to take the long way
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back to the city because we all had hours before curfew.
When the dirt road turned to pavement, I thought I
would have some fun. I had dropped the gear and
floored it, and we slid sideways and then took off.
I should have been paying attention, but I wasn't. In
Before I knew it, we got turned around it was dark,
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the corn crops were high, and we were going really fast.
Somehow we got off the main road and got lost.
We turned down a road that was bumpy, and it
was getting nerve racking because we didn't have a map.
It was late at night and we were in the
middle of nowhere. My buddy joked about the Children of
the Corn movie, which I think scared him more than
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it did me. And Kay. We came to this stop
sign that was in a weird spot. It was in
the middle of the road that had corn on either side,
no crossroad. As I stopped, I turned to Kay and
J and asked, so do we go back the way
we came? Or do we Before I could finish, Kay's
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eyes got really big and she started to shake and
she mumbled, what the hell is that? Mike, J and
I both turned and in the headlights there was a
tall creature, hunched over, walking out of the corn field
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in front of us. It had long arms, longer than
any human being I have ever seen. The hands were
curled up and the fingertips looked pointed. The thing had
a long snout and pointed ears. It stopped and gave
us a half smile, showing its teeth. They looked like
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monster teeth. It then turned and looked directly at us,
and its eyes reflected the light from the headlights, and
it simply walked away. We rolled our windows up and
sat there dumbfounded for a minute. I looked at Jay
and put the car in gear. I rolled up the
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ten yards or so to where the thing crossed the road,
and there was nothing, nothing but more corn and old
wooden telephone pole and an old abandoned farmhouse. Kay quietly said, Mike,
I want to go home. Please don't drive past that house.
Let's just go and Jay agree, so I put it
in reverse and we slowly back down the road and
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went back the way we had come. I looked one
last time at the abandoned farmhouse in the rear view mirror.
In the moonlight, I saw a movement just inside the
open door, and it scared me so much that I
had a cold feeling go through my body, and I
remember flooring it, causing us to just bounce and jostle
our way up the crappy road. I drove for a
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few miles, pulled over and got sick. The entire time
that two other were urging me to come on, come on,
hurry up, get back in the car. We finally got
back to civilization and J and I dropped k off
at her house and she leaned in the passenger side
window and said, I don't want to talk about this ever.
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I have never been so scared in my life. If
there are things like that out in the world, then
just please don't ever bring it up. Please swear. She
looked at both of us with tears in her eyes,
and we swore, and we never spoke of it again.
As Jay and I drove off, Jay stared out the
window halfway to his house. He said, I was always
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told that that monsters didn't exist. But if they don't exist,
what was that? He turned to me, and I looked
at him, and I could see the fear in his eyes,
as I'm sure he could see the fear in mine.
I didn't say anything. I couldn't because I didn't know
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what to say. We drove the rest of the way
in silence, and all I could do is think monsters
are real. All three of us will never forget that
night as long as we live again. That's from Michael Grady,
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Ellis County, Texas. HM, H, do you believe that story
that Michael sent and thank you for sending in. Michael,
do you believe that? And if you don't, well, how
do we explain all of these stories about people seeing
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monsters that go all the way back to ancient times
and yet again and again and again. There's a problem
when people see these things and they have these very
honest reports where you can say, like, Okay, this person
believes he or she saw this, And let me tell you.
I have interviewed thousands of people over the past thirty
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years who have told me about seeing strange things, and
many of them are monsters. And I don't believe that
everybody out there is just mistaking a bear for a
bigfoot or something like that. Sometimes people they know what
they're talking about. They say, I solve this thing. So
the question becomes, how do we reconcile believing people see
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these things with the lack of physical evidence. Why isn't
that thing that Michael saw in a zoo or in
a museum? Why is it that when someone sees bigfoot,
then he disappears, where does he go? Somebody sees the
Locknest Monster, then it disappears. They see mothman, then he disappears.
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They see aliens, and then they disappeared. Where do these
things go? Maybe they go somewhere else where. They primarily
stay another place, another dimension. Thousands of years have gone by,
and you know, some civilizations have been scared. Frankly, some
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cultures have been afraid to talk about these things, or
especially write it down, even to this day, and others
have recorded it quite thoroughly. You know, I bought a
book for Lauren a while back. It's a nice hard
backed book called Vassin, Spirits and Monsters of Scandinavian Folklore,
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collected and illustrated by Johann Egercrons. And it's wonderfully illustrated book.
And it has, for example, a section here on the
Gatar giants. They have a picture of what a big,
ugly looking thing. Let me tell you. It says here
the Nordic giants are immense primordial creatures that have lived
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here since long before the human era. They are incredibly strong,
but they are also clumsy and not especially bright. They
become much rarer after the arrival of Christianity to the
Nordic countries and gradually retreated to the wilderness and the mountains.
The sound of church bells hurts their ears and drives
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them mad. This explains the huge stone boulders found dott
It about the Nordic landscape. They are the stones of
the frustrated giants, the stones they threw at churches to
try and put a stop to the noise. Apparently their
aim could have been better, as they never seemed to
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hit their intended targets. In the old days, these flit
block or erratic blocks were popularly called shot cast literally
meaning giants throw, even though some insists they are in
fact boulders dragged here by the last glacial ice shoot.
That's an interesting description of a creature. A big thing,
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how about something small? Though they're also a little weird
things like the gnome mial. You know, they used to
have lots of mills to grind up things, and it
says in these mills there was a kind of gnome
or nice who often resided among the machinery that drove
the water wheel. Just like their relatives on the farmsteads.
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They take care of the mill and make sure the
miller keeps the proper times. If, for example, the miller
tries to grind corn at night or on Sundays, the
mill spirit will grab the will and make the machinery
come to a stop. And just like the other niece,
the old mill spirit is very strong. Indeed, there are
various reasons why the mill spirit stops the mill at
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these times in the evenings. He wants it to be
quiet so that he can sit in the stream and
play his violin. He is a skilled musician. On other occasions,
he does it that a pure spite. But if you
throw him a silver coin or a twist of tobacco,
well they're very fond of that, and he lets go
of the will and disappears. It also seems to be
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away for the old spirit to have human contact when
he is feeling lonely. These kinds of stories go back
thousands of years. Do you believe them? Do you think
there may be something possibly to these tales? If so,
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where are these creatures? Where do they reside? What do
I mean when I say they maybe? And another dimension?
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Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
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of Weird, Joshua P. Warren. People see Bigfoot, then he disappears?
Where does he go? They see loch Ness Monster, he disappears.
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Where does he go? Aliaens disappear? Where do they go?
Moth Man? Where does he go? People see these things,
and sometimes these things even leave physical traces evidence like
footprints or burns, and yet we don't have the creature.
When we talk about interdimensional beings, that's kind of the
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convenient term that a lot of people just sort of
generically throw around, and yet nobody really knows exactly what
that means, right, I Mean, anybody can say it's interdimensional,
but what exactly are they getting at? Well, I'm going
to do my best to explain to you what this
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concept means in some kind of a relatable way. You know,
I have a paranormal investigator course that I teach online, okay,
and I believe it is the most comprehensive paranormal investigation
course in the world. And if you go to Joshua
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pe Warren dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop.
You will see it there. And when you take the
course and again you sit right there at your computer
and take the whole thing. And then you take a
test and if you pass the test, you get a certificate. Um.
It's many hours of content. And I start by giving
the fundamentals of sort of how we measure what we
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know about reality, and it has a very scientific foundation,
and I describe dimensions. And here is what I found
is the best approach. So there's no way that you
can actually comprehend what it means. When I say there
is another dimension, you can believe it, you can accept it.
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If you're a mathematician, I can show it to you
on paper. Um, I can almost even do an artistic
rendition that gives you an idea, but I can't. You
can't really call aprehended. So let's stick with what you
can comprehend. You are living right now in a world
in which you primarily deal with the three basic dimensions, length,
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with and depth. Okay, three D. You understand as a
human what those things mean. So instead of me trying
to tack on some other dimension, let's work within those
three dimensions. So let's say you, as a three dimensional being,
came into contact with a two dimensional being. Now, this
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is a sort of thought experiment or a model that
was actually first proposed in the eighteen hundreds by this
philosopher named Edwin Abbott. He was an Englishman and he
wrote a little book about this premise called flat Land.
So here's the idea. Uh, if something is two dimensional,
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then basically it's got length and with so everything's flat.
It doesn't have any depths, right, and so try to
imagine that. So there is a land in front of
you which is absolutely flat. So in this world, the
little flat landers that live there, they cannot look up
or down. They have no concept of what up or
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down is. Okay, they go side to side and back
and forth. That's all they know. So you walk up
as a three dimensional being to flat land and you're
looking at them, but they can't see you because they
can't look up. But you can look down and you say, hey,
little flat lander, I'm up here. All the flat lander
here is is some voice that comes out of nowhere,
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a terribly frightening weird thing. I'm sure I'm hearing a voice.
I don't. I don't know where it came from. What
was that? It was some being is talking to me.
And furthermore, you would actually be able to not just
look down and see them, but you'd be able to
look down and see into their homes because they wouldn't
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have a roof. They don't need a roof, they don't
have at any up. There's nothing that they can put
above them because they don't know what above is. So
you're looking down, you can not only see them, you
can see into their houses and into structures that they
think you can't see through. So now you have X
ray vision. And so if you are able to see
all these things that they think are hidden, and you're
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able to talk to them, but they have no idea
where this voice is coming from, maybe you say, okay,
I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna visit them.
And so if you descend in the flat lander, if
you're a giant being, maybe you just poke your finger
down there. The flat lander is never going to be
able to see you in your entirety. It's only going
to see a set of objects suddenly appear right in
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front of the flat lander, changing shapes. It's i mean,
you say, where where is this coming from? It's not
connected to anything. You just see what looks like random,
weird slices of something. It's like, you know how, And
and medical scans they'll show you a slice across section
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of somebody's body, you know, that kind of thing. All
they would see is a little cross section. They never
have the ability to see you and what you were
in your entirety, only little figments of you. And again
you would appear and in their world and then disappear.
It would make no sense. Let's say you decided to
do the ultimate thing and you reach down into this
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little flat land if it's if it's a small place,
and you picked up a flat lander, you said, I'm
gonna show you what UP is, and you throw them
up into the air and they float back down into
flat land and it blows their mind. And when they
go to other flat landers and try to explain what
happened that they went to this place called UP, they'd
have no way of explaining it. They'd simply say they
had some kind of a mystical experience. That would be
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the best they could do. Carl Sagan did a very
good job of illustrating everything I've just told you in
a video you can find on YouTube if you have
any problem visualizing this. So my point is that when
people talk about having paranormal experiences, the kinds of things
they talk about are very very similar to what would
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happen if the three dimensional being interacted with a two
dimensional being in a two dimensional world. So if we
have beings that are are in other dimensions so to speak,
that are fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, physicists say there may
be dozens of dimensions, maybe more. If there are beings
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and these other dimensions that sometimes sort of pop in
and out here, then we are gonna have no way
of understanding their origins and where they spend most of
their time. And this may be why that we have
to consider. Um, maybe there are certain places where these
beings from other dimensions, certain places they like to visit
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more than others. Or maybe maybe there are people who
have more encounters than others. I mean, if somebody tells
you they've seen a monster or a creature of some
kind from one of these other dimensions, you can just
disbelieve that and say I I just don't believe it.
But anyone who says he or she has honestly seen
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a monster or a creature. I mean, if that person
looks at you and says, listen, I'm telling you here's
what I saw. I want you to imagine for a second,
if they are telling the truth accurately, how do we
explain this? Why do some people also seem to have
more encounters than others? Some people have repeated encounters with
these beings? Well, it reminds me of the Mothman Prophecies movie.
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It's a great book, but the movie is also fantastic
if you've never seen it. It's truly creepy and thought provoking.
Stars Richard Gear and there is a paranormal expert named
Alexander Leek, a very mysterious figure in the movie, who's
really burdened by what he's learned about these winged creatures
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that appear flying around just before disasters occur around the world.
And this guy, Richard Gears character is saying to Alexander Leeke,
I don't understand, like, why me, why you know? Why
are they following me around? Why do I keep interacting
with these things? And Alexander Leake says, quote, you noticed them,
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and they noticed that you noticed them. Some people are
more perceptive than others. I mean, I you should know
that I've been with the same woman for twenty twenty
three years. I think. Let me tell you what, if
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you're in a marriage for a long time, you know
that your partner can notice things that you don't notice.
At least that's how it is for me. My wife
Lauren very detail oriented. She is an artistic and crafty type,
and she she sees all kinds of details that I
would just miss. Some people notice these things, and they
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notice that you noticed them, and they like that. They
find that interesting, and they start maybe following you around,
interacting with you more, playing with you more. What happens
if you throw a bone to a dog, right, the
dog follows you around after that. But Alexander Leake in
the movie The Mothman prophecies, he says something else, which
is a very simple way of communicating a really important
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concept that I'm going to dig into. He says, as
he's talking about like why these these winged beings in
particular might appear just before disaster occurs, he says, quote,
you know, the build up of energy before something happens.
How hair stands up before lightning strikes. End quote. Now
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when it comes to Mothman in particular, there was some
kind of a build up of energy that was happening
in nineteen sixty seven around Point Pleasant, West Virginia. People
were seeing not just this big wing being flying around,
but they were seeing more UFOs, They had poltergeist experiences,
there were men in black showing up. These were harbingers
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of some kind of a change that was going to come.
And guess what, at the end of that year, a
horrible tragedy In December of nineteen sixty seven, right around
the area where Mothman was most prominently being seen, the
Silver Bridge collapsed, and it was the largest bridge disaster
in US history. Forty six people died and they fell
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into the Ohio River, and some witnesses claimed they even
actually saw a Mothman sitting on the bridge before it fell.
Whether not that's true, I don't know, but there is.
It's there's a bit much for coincidence that people kept
seeing Mothman right before that bridge collapsed. Well, I think
Alexander Leak was right. Sometimes there's a build up of
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energy in the environment. It's not always in the physical environment. First,
it starts in the non physical world and it finally
makes it into the physical world, and then pal It
releases snaps and during that period of build up, it's
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almost like we get a moment where the realms come
closer together. I'll tell you more about that when we
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Joshua pe Warren, and this is the show where the
unusual becomes usual. In places like England, They've always talked
about hellhounds, especially like the one that appeared at the
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church at Bungay, Suffolk, England. These hellhounds, I'm telling you
you've got to look into these things. They are big, hulking,
demonic looking dogs. And the weird thing is when they
appear like they did at the church and Bungay, they
sometimes just go on a rampage. There's often a terrible
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thunder and lightning storm outside, and these dogs they appeared,
they ran into the church and they just started tearing
people apart. And the funny thing is they looked enough
like dogs that people could identify them as dogs, but
they had a lot of characteristics that are dogs, and
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this dimension don't have not only size, but glowing red eyes,
radiating heat that would burn people and things, incredible power,
enormous density, and weight so much as to break pieces
of masonry. And so it's almost like that there maybe
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a realm, or maybe there are realms that are just
a little bit askew from this dimension, so that the
life that has evolved there is not entirely weird and different.
It's not as different to us as some kind of
blob or whatever, or some tentacled thing like like some
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deep sea octopus. It's close enough that we do recognize it,
but it's different enough that we say, that's not here,
that's not from from our plane. Sometimes events happened where
it seems like these realms they bend and they come
a little bit closer together, and we are able to
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interact for a limited period of time. We are able
to see each other, experience each other, and then they
diverge again. You know what a capacitor is in electricity
and an electrical engineering, a capacitor is a very simple device.
It stores up small electrical charges over a period of
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time to a certain point, a critical point, and then
boom and discharges it all at once as a very
powerful thing. And it may be that whenever there's a
major change that's about to happen in the physical environment,
like the the burden, the stress that was on the
silver bridge that was about to collapse, that there is
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this rising tension first that happens in the spiritual dimensions
around us. That the physical world is just the crust
on top of the non physical world, and when changes
are about to occur in the physical world, like the
snapping of that bridge, the stress builds like tension leading
up to an earthquake and other ranges of energy, and
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we just catch little weird glimpses of effects from that
before the lightning strike, so to speak, and the major
event happens releasing that pent up power. That when that
energy is building up, sometimes the dimensions warp. It's almost
like a lens bending light. And it's during that period
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of time, that period of tension, when we get to
see and interact with these beings. And so therefore in
retrospect we look at them as harbingers, things that showed
up right before something big was gonna happen, usually big
and bad, not always, but usually, And so that means
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when you start seeing these things appear, you better be wary,
you better be cautious. And that's why we have these
things we call flaps, which are periods of time when
for some reason, a bunch of weird stuff happens leading
up usually to some big event, and you may not
even know what the event is. It may not happen
in your neck of the woods, but just nearby, and
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then after that the flap ends. For example, you know,
of course, the whole moth man thing was in nineteen
sixty seven and nineteen sixty nine, a moth woman was
seeing Have you ever heard of this? Yeah, moth woman.
This happened at Vietnam. A bunch of soldiers there in Vietnam,
solve a well, a woman who looked like a big
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bat that flew right over their heads. And um, that's
a whole other story. You can look into that, you
know for yourself, if you like flaps. I think of
these as periods of interdimensional weather. We have weather when
it comes to just about everything. We have space weather,
we have atmospheric weather here on our planet, and it's
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almost like we have interdimensional weather. I mean, most of
the time you go to tornado Alley, it's fine, it's peaceful,
it's calm, there's nothing going on. But then when the
conditions are just right, well, guess what you get this big,
beautiful symmetrical thing called a tornado, and it's terribly destructive
and it's there for a little while and then it
goes away. And often when you have that window, that
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window period, you see these winged beings. That's what you
know the mothman thing is all about. It's not all
ways them, though, it could be any kind of strange creature.
And usually if you see something that's a weird creature,
you try to figure out, well, what is the closest
thing it looks like? You know, this isn't exactly a bear.
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This isn't exactly a wolf, you know, so we'll call
it a were wolf or whatever. But it's close enough
enter dimensional weather. Do you know. When I was in
Puerto Rico, which is one of the points right there
in the center of the so called Bermuda Triangle, doing
my research, I found out that all these people around
this little area called Guanica, we're seeing a mothman. Basically,
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they called him the gargola, which is Spanish for gargoyle.
Six ft tall, you know, kind of black, hunch looking
thing with a face like a German shepherd and big
bat wings. I talked to five different active duty police
officers who had all seen this thing and told me
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with the straight face honestly, not only do they see it,
they shot at it. They went running after it. They
tried to catch it. They never could. Sometimes it was
flying and sometimes it was running along the ground. They
often saw it head and I would ask him, well,
where did it go? And they would always say like, well,
they kind of went in that direction. It turns out,
guess what, there was a monastery over there. Now, what
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is the meaning of that? Maybe if this is some
kind of an energy being, it feeds off of the
energy that comes from a spiritual central point. I don't know.
I don't know, but I said, my God, if they're
seeing this gargula around this area, I'm afraid. I don't.
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad news here, folks,
but I think something bad is probably gonna happen here soon,
probably some earthquakes and other things like that. Right after
I said that, okay, right after I reported this and
I talked about it all over the media. Sure enough,
Puerto Rico, it's got pounded by earthquakes. Well, well, first
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it was pounded by hurricanes. I got out of there
right when the hurricanes started hitting. It got pounded and
destroyed in many ways by hurricanes, and then the earthquakes hit. Boom,
boom boom. The earthquakes are ongoing to this day. Power
in Puerto Rico is out half the time. And guess
where most of the earthquakes are are focused on. Are
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focused around Guantica, exactly exactly where the gargula was being
seen flying around. If you believe I'm making this up,
go back and you listen to sub interviews that I
did on Coast to Coast A M. And a lot
of other programs where I predicted that something you know,
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of a of a big, you know, unsettling natural disaster
type nature was gonna probably happen right around uh Guantica,
and uh out look at what's happened since then, and
you'll see I can prove it. I can prove it.
So there's something to this, all right. So interdimensional weather
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is one possible explanation for these flaps you see all
these things, and it doesn't just have to be interdimensional beings.
It could be UFOs have easier access to us and
aliens as well. But then you have places that we
just call thin places, and these are places where, more
often than not, the natural environment just seems to be
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a little more shifted toward these other dimensions. And that's
why you have places like the Bermuda Triangle where we
more consistently have these kinds of reports, and there you
have you know, obviously you've got things there like the
chupacabra as well, which I'll tell you an interesting chupicabra
story in a minute. So that's another possibility. There are
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just thin places you can go and increase your chances
of seeing these things. But then what if some of
these winged beings, What if it is possible that some
of them are evolved enough so that they can actually
warp the dimensions themselves at will, that if they want
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to come and interact with you, they have somehow understood
how to do that. And maybe in some cases it's
technological like we think about with aliens and stuff like that,
or maybe it's a more organic skill. It's sort of
like saying, well, if you wanna, you know, fly, you
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can go out and build an airplane and get on
it and fly. On the other hand, you could just
be a bat, and it comes natural to you. Be
a bird, it comes natural to you. Maybe some of
these things building machines sometimes to interact with us, and
sometimes they just to have a natural ability. And so
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is it possible that some of these, especially winged beings
that may have an ability to warp the dimensions and
interact with us, are what we often call angels or demons.
Think about that they can come to you and do
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something for you, something good for you, something bad for you,
or something bad to you. That is going to be
a topic of a whole other podcasts. I'm gonna do
a podcast soon about angels and demons, and I'm gonna
give you my opinion on all that and what I've
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learned and some interesting stories and so just you know,
bear that in mind. I think that's going to be
one that you'll you'll find enjoyable. But when I was
in Puerto Rico, I met a guy who told me
about an experience that his family had with um the chupacabra,
because the chupacabra originated in Puerto Rico. And we talk
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about chupacabra as some kind of mangy old coyote, no
no no, and Puerto Rico, the chupacabra is a different
kind of creature and it does weird stuff. And I'm
gonna tell you about that when we come back. I'm
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Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
a am paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and I hope that you're not letting the chaos of
the new year get to you. Remember what I said
about staying positive and creating your own world, your own microcosm,
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brainwash yourself. Start with that, and you know it's important
to open your mind. Here's a little new thing that
you can do. Go eat something you've never had before.
You know what Lauren and I did the other day
here in Las Vegas. We found the biggest Japanese grocery
store around and we went there and we just bought
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all the weirdest stuff we could find. Some of it
I did. I honestly, it was like, I have no
idea what is in this package or in this can,
but I'm buying it. It's a surprise. We hauled this
box back to our house. I don't even want to
tell you how expensive all this stuff was, and we
just had a field day of going through and trying
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out all this weird, weird stuff. Maybe at some point
I'll tell you some of the things we tasted. I
don't even know what some of the things worth that
I tasted. But nonetheless, these are simple things you can
do in life. Eat at a new restaurant from a
different you know, different culture, different style, whatever, Try it out.
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That's part of the fun. And when you open your mind,
and you probably have a pretty open mind because you
listen to this show, you think, maybe not everything is
what it seems to be. People see encrypted, they see
a monster and they go, look, I saw it. It
was physical. This is not some phantom. I'm telling you're
right when you saw it, it was physical. But it's
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hard for people to accept that these things can switch
from physical to nonphysical because they look so physical, so
tangible when they're here. I understand, I get it. In
Puerto Rico, I met a guy who had lived there
his whole life. His he his family had been there
for generations, and he said that when his grandfather was
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a young man, and this was back in the early
nineteen hundreds, there was an area where on the island
a lot of the livestock was being killed in odd ways,
blood sucked. And by the way, the term choopa cabra
wasn't even created until nineteen It means goat sucker, and
it's named after these things that you know, sucked the
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blood out of goats. But people in Puerto Rico have
seen this creature going back for centuries and it's it's
not some main gee coyote like you hear about in
the American Southwest. We're talking about some type of a
creature that looks more like an alien. It's four ft tall,
big black eyes, spines that run down its black down
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its back. It often has wings, it can fly, some
people have encountered it. Instead, it just sort of had
this bizarre whirling warp that developed around it and it
just shot off into the sky like the Tasmanian devil.
So anyway, at this village in the early nineteen hundreds,
they were having so many problems with livestock being killed
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that um, they got the biggest metal trap they could
find in the area and they modified it and they
put it out one night with a goat inside his bait,
and all the guys got their rifles and you know,
pitchforks and whatever, and uh, the trap snapped and they
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ran up to it and this was a big metal
box and this box was rocking and there was some
kind of chaos inside. They were like, what could this
possibly be? They were afraid to open it, right, So
they all had their weapons poised, and some brave man
went over and opened the door to the trap, and
inside here we have the dead goat that's been torn
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all to pieces, but nothing else. The box was empty,
as if this thing had teleported and gone somewhere else,
spirited away. This is the kind of thing I'm talking
about when I say, maybe we reconcile those experiences and
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all these eyewitness reports with the lack of physical evidence
that we can hang onto with the more plausible explanation
that these are often interdimensional beings, not always. There are
still some things out there to be discovered. You hear
the examples of you know, like the cila cants in
the mountain gorilla and stuff like that. These are things
(50:28):
that were discovered, but that was you know, we're talking
now we've got all kinds of technology, satellites and let's
let's of transportation. I mean, it's harder and harder every
day to believe that if they're always normal biological organisms,
we wouldn't have more just evidence of an impact on
the ecology, you know what I mean, like more impact
(50:50):
on the food supply, more droppings, more hairs, more bones,
et cetera. But there are people who were out there
looking and you know what. On a recent edition of
this show, I played the dead tone. This is a
tone I extracted from an ancient symbol that has been
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used to communicate with beings from the other side. And
I had to debate as to whether or not to
play it. But I finally decided, you know what, you're
listening to this show. As far as I'm concerned, you're
the top caliber, You're the cream of the crop. If
you want it, here you go. So I played the tone,
and I was surprised by the feedback. I told some,
(51:34):
I said, some of you may not want to hear this.
I got an email just today from Jason, who is
a big fan of this show. He lives in Colorado.
He's an investigator, and he said that he sent some
of my tones to his friends who are part of
a Bigfoot research society in New York State, and apparently
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they decided to play some of these tones, especially the
dead tone okay, out on their big Foot investigation. And
when they started playing this tone, they started hearing some
kind of intimidating grunting and growling in the woods. And
(52:20):
this has happened multiple times now, and so basically he
said that these bigfoot hunters are starting to agree, like, yeah,
this is some kind of an interdimensional thing going on
here with this bigfoot. And so I decided tonight I'm
going to play uh, and I say, tonight could beat
today when you're listening to this whatever, I'm going to
(52:41):
play this for you again. I'm gonna play the dead
tone for twenty seconds at the end of this segment
because that's a really interesting thing. If if you are
investigating monsters, maybe you should try playing this. Oh. Also,
something else I want to tell you, Uh, there is
another fan of this show, a man named Mike Stewart,
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and he took the tongue for the one hundred dollar
bill and he expanded it and he sent it to
me and I tweeted it. My Twitter is at Joshua
Pee Warren at Joshua Pee Warren. If you go there,
you can get the extended version of the hundred dollar
bill tone and listen to that. Uh. And actually, if
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you just go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com, you'll
find my tweets there as well. So, um, here's a
quick story I want to read for you. This was
sent to me an email from Lawrence jug jig Larski,
who works in floor cleaning services, and he had this
experience in Woodridge, Illinois in n He said, I walked
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out onto the balcony of my apartment to smoke. It
was approximately twelve thirty AM, so half an hour after midnight,
and I heard a loud, low whistling sound, as if
a big wind was picking up. It was then that
I saw and I can only describe as a terra dectyl.
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It was huge, and it flew right past my balcony,
not five or six ft from me. It was so
close that I could see its big black eye focus
on me. It's I didn't move, it just sort of
focused on me. The quote bird was gray, had no feathers,
just small scales. His head and neck were not stretched
(54:27):
out looking down like you see in science books and museums. Instead,
it held its head like a pelican, with its neck
bent in such a way that the base of its
skull rested on its backbone. It didn't flap its big wings.
It's simply glided and moments later it was gone. I
was shocked. I stood there trying to figure out what
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I had seen. I went inside and told my wife
what I saw, but she didn't care about my experience.
I didn't have a computer back then, but have since
gone online and looked for some birds that might have
appeared similar to what I saw. Only a pterodactyl fits
the bill. Now what do you think he saw? Do
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you think that was the ghost of a pterodactyl or
do you think he may have seen one of these
enterdimensional beings glide right by him? As a matter of fact,
I have a picture a woman named Lynn Jackson took
of a very similar creature posted on my website. If
you go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com and click
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the link to the Gallery of the Strange, you'll find
a section there called World's Wildest Ghost Photos, and there
you can see Lynn Jackson's picture of this thing on
her farm that looks a heck of a lot like
what this gentleman was just describing. Again, ghost or an
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enter dimensional being. M you know, these things, these monsters,
they might not be what you are expecting them to be.
But if you open your mind, and that's all I'm asking,
if you really look at the options, if you open
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your mind, maybe Michael Grady, the man who sent me
the email I read at the top of the show
was right. Monsters are real. I'll let you know what
happens with the folks in New York playing my tone
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to get Bigfoot research done. And so one more time,
here is that tone. That's it for this edition of
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Get ready to amazed by the wizard of Weird. This
is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren,
and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments
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you can do at home, and a lot more. On
this edition of the show, Enter Dimensional Monsters. I want
to read an email to you I received from a listener.
It's kind of long, but certainly worth reading. Sent to
me from Michael Grady, who is a drafter and designer
(01:23):
in Ellis County, Texas. This is an experience he had
in nineteen He said, one night, my friends and I
decided to do something out of the ordinary. We wanted
to explore the urban legends of the surrounding area. I
got a call from my buddy who wanted to go
pick up our friend K and go to an old,
(01:43):
abandoned cemetery. We had heard all kinds of stories and
legends about this place, so we wanted to see if
they were true. It took an hour or so of driving,
some of it down a dirt road, but we found
what we thought was it. There were headstones going back
to the teen hundreds, which seemed pretty cool to teenagers
like us. We tested some goose goofy legends and as
(02:07):
we suspected, nothing happened. We laughed it off and started
to make our way back to my car, and that's
when we heard rustling in the bushes. For a moment,
we stood frozen in fear, and then used a flashlight
to find it was just an armadillo foraging. So as
we drove away, we decided to take the long way
(02:29):
back to the city because we all had hours before curfew.
When the dirt road turned to pavement, I thought I
would have some fun. I had dropped the gear and
floored it, and we slid sideways and then took off.
I should have been paying attention, but I wasn't. In
Before I knew it, we got turned around it was dark,
(02:50):
the corn crops were high, and we were going really fast.
Somehow we got off the main road and got lost.
We turned down a road that was bumpy, and it
was getting nerve racking because we didn't have a map.
It was late at night and we were in the
middle of nowhere. My buddy joked about the Children of
the Corn movie, which I think scared him more than
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it did me. And Kay. We came to this stop
sign that was in a weird spot. It was in
the middle of the road that had corn on either side,
no crossroad. As I stopped, I turned to Kay and
J and asked, so do we go back the way
we came? Or do we Before I could finish, Kay's
(03:33):
eyes got really big and she started to shake and
she mumbled, what the hell is that? Mike, J and
I both turned and in the headlights there was a
tall creature, hunched over, walking out of the corn field
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in front of us. It had long arms, longer than
any human being I have ever seen. The hands were
curled up and the fingertips looked pointed. The thing had
a long snout and pointed ears. It stopped and gave
us a half smile, showing its teeth. They looked like
(04:19):
monster teeth. It then turned and looked directly at us,
and its eyes reflected the light from the headlights, and
it simply walked away. We rolled our windows up and
sat there dumbfounded for a minute. I looked at Jay
and put the car in gear. I rolled up the
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ten yards or so to where the thing crossed the road,
and there was nothing, nothing but more corn and old
wooden telephone pole and an old abandoned farmhouse. Kay quietly said, Mike,
I want to go home. Please don't drive past that house.
Let's just go and Jay agree, so I put it
in reverse and we slowly back down the road and
(05:04):
went back the way we had come. I looked one
last time at the abandoned farmhouse in the rear view mirror.
In the moonlight, I saw a movement just inside the
open door, and it scared me so much that I
had a cold feeling go through my body, and I
remember flooring it, causing us to just bounce and jostle
our way up the crappy road. I drove for a
(05:26):
few miles, pulled over and got sick. The entire time
that two other were urging me to come on, come on,
hurry up, get back in the car. We finally got
back to civilization and J and I dropped k off
at her house and she leaned in the passenger side
window and said, I don't want to talk about this ever.
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I have never been so scared in my life. If
there are things like that out in the world, then
just please don't ever bring it up. Please swear. She
looked at both of us with tears in her eyes,
and we swore, and we never spoke of it again.
As Jay and I drove off, Jay stared out the
window halfway to his house. He said, I was always
(06:10):
told that that monsters didn't exist. But if they don't exist,
what was that? He turned to me, and I looked
at him, and I could see the fear in his eyes,
as I'm sure he could see the fear in mine.
I didn't say anything. I couldn't because I didn't know
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what to say. We drove the rest of the way
in silence, and all I could do is think monsters
are real. All three of us will never forget that
night as long as we live again. That's from Michael Grady,
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Ellis County, Texas. HM, H, do you believe that story
that Michael sent and thank you for sending in. Michael,
do you believe that? And if you don't, well, how
do we explain all of these stories about people seeing
(07:18):
monsters that go all the way back to ancient times
and yet again and again and again. There's a problem
when people see these things and they have these very
honest reports where you can say, like, Okay, this person
believes he or she saw this, And let me tell you.
I have interviewed thousands of people over the past thirty
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years who have told me about seeing strange things, and
many of them are monsters. And I don't believe that
everybody out there is just mistaking a bear for a
bigfoot or something like that. Sometimes people they know what
they're talking about. They say, I solve this thing. So
the question becomes, how do we reconcile believing people see
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these things with the lack of physical evidence. Why isn't
that thing that Michael saw in a zoo or in
a museum? Why is it that when someone sees bigfoot,
then he disappears, where does he go? Somebody sees the
Locknest Monster, then it disappears. They see mothman, then he disappears.
(08:28):
They see aliens, and then they disappeared. Where do these
things go? Maybe they go somewhere else where. They primarily
stay another place, another dimension. Thousands of years have gone by,
and you know, some civilizations have been scared. Frankly, some
(08:52):
cultures have been afraid to talk about these things, or
especially write it down, even to this day, and others
have recorded it quite thoroughly. You know, I bought a
book for Lauren a while back. It's a nice hard
backed book called Vassin, Spirits and Monsters of Scandinavian Folklore,
(09:13):
collected and illustrated by Johann Egercrons. And it's wonderfully illustrated book.
And it has, for example, a section here on the
Gatar giants. They have a picture of what a big,
ugly looking thing. Let me tell you. It says here
the Nordic giants are immense primordial creatures that have lived
(09:34):
here since long before the human era. They are incredibly strong,
but they are also clumsy and not especially bright. They
become much rarer after the arrival of Christianity to the
Nordic countries and gradually retreated to the wilderness and the mountains.
The sound of church bells hurts their ears and drives
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them mad. This explains the huge stone boulders found dott
It about the Nordic landscape. They are the stones of
the frustrated giants, the stones they threw at churches to
try and put a stop to the noise. Apparently their
aim could have been better, as they never seemed to
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hit their intended targets. In the old days, these flit
block or erratic blocks were popularly called shot cast literally
meaning giants throw, even though some insists they are in
fact boulders dragged here by the last glacial ice shoot.
That's an interesting description of a creature. A big thing,
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how about something small? Though they're also a little weird
things like the gnome mial. You know, they used to
have lots of mills to grind up things, and it
says in these mills there was a kind of gnome
or nice who often resided among the machinery that drove
the water wheel. Just like their relatives on the farmsteads.
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They take care of the mill and make sure the
miller keeps the proper times. If, for example, the miller
tries to grind corn at night or on Sundays, the
mill spirit will grab the will and make the machinery
come to a stop. And just like the other niece,
the old mill spirit is very strong. Indeed, there are
various reasons why the mill spirit stops the mill at
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these times in the evenings. He wants it to be
quiet so that he can sit in the stream and
play his violin. He is a skilled musician. On other occasions,
he does it that a pure spite. But if you
throw him a silver coin or a twist of tobacco,
well they're very fond of that, and he lets go
of the will and disappears. It also seems to be
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away for the old spirit to have human contact when
he is feeling lonely. These kinds of stories go back
thousands of years. Do you believe them? Do you think
there may be something possibly to these tales? If so,
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where are these creatures? Where do they reside? What do
I mean when I say they maybe? And another dimension?
I'll explain when we come back. Remember now, right now,
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Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
a paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard
of Weird, Joshua P. Warren. People see Bigfoot, then he disappears?
Where does he go? They see loch Ness Monster, he disappears.
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Where does he go? Aliaens disappear? Where do they go?
Moth Man? Where does he go? People see these things,
and sometimes these things even leave physical traces evidence like
footprints or burns, and yet we don't have the creature.
When we talk about interdimensional beings, that's kind of the
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convenient term that a lot of people just sort of
generically throw around, and yet nobody really knows exactly what
that means, right, I Mean, anybody can say it's interdimensional,
but what exactly are they getting at? Well, I'm going
to do my best to explain to you what this
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concept means in some kind of a relatable way. You know,
I have a paranormal investigator course that I teach online, okay,
and I believe it is the most comprehensive paranormal investigation
course in the world. And if you go to Joshua
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pe Warren dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop.
You will see it there. And when you take the
course and again you sit right there at your computer
and take the whole thing. And then you take a
test and if you pass the test, you get a certificate. Um.
It's many hours of content. And I start by giving
the fundamentals of sort of how we measure what we
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know about reality, and it has a very scientific foundation,
and I describe dimensions. And here is what I found
is the best approach. So there's no way that you
can actually comprehend what it means. When I say there
is another dimension, you can believe it, you can accept it.
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If you're a mathematician, I can show it to you
on paper. Um, I can almost even do an artistic
rendition that gives you an idea, but I can't. You
can't really call aprehended. So let's stick with what you
can comprehend. You are living right now in a world
in which you primarily deal with the three basic dimensions, length,
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with and depth. Okay, three D. You understand as a
human what those things mean. So instead of me trying
to tack on some other dimension, let's work within those
three dimensions. So let's say you, as a three dimensional being,
came into contact with a two dimensional being. Now, this
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is a sort of thought experiment or a model that
was actually first proposed in the eighteen hundreds by this
philosopher named Edwin Abbott. He was an Englishman and he
wrote a little book about this premise called flat Land.
So here's the idea. Uh, if something is two dimensional,
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then basically it's got length and with so everything's flat.
It doesn't have any depths, right, and so try to
imagine that. So there is a land in front of
you which is absolutely flat. So in this world, the
little flat landers that live there, they cannot look up
or down. They have no concept of what up or
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down is. Okay, they go side to side and back
and forth. That's all they know. So you walk up
as a three dimensional being to flat land and you're
looking at them, but they can't see you because they
can't look up. But you can look down and you say, hey,
little flat lander, I'm up here. All the flat lander
here is is some voice that comes out of nowhere,
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a terribly frightening weird thing. I'm sure I'm hearing a voice.
I don't. I don't know where it came from. What
was that? It was some being is talking to me.
And furthermore, you would actually be able to not just
look down and see them, but you'd be able to
look down and see into their homes because they wouldn't
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have a roof. They don't need a roof, they don't
have at any up. There's nothing that they can put
above them because they don't know what above is. So
you're looking down, you can not only see them, you
can see into their houses and into structures that they
think you can't see through. So now you have X
ray vision. And so if you are able to see
all these things that they think are hidden, and you're
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able to talk to them, but they have no idea
where this voice is coming from, maybe you say, okay,
I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna visit them.
And so if you descend in the flat lander, if
you're a giant being, maybe you just poke your finger
down there. The flat lander is never going to be
able to see you in your entirety. It's only going
to see a set of objects suddenly appear right in
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front of the flat lander, changing shapes. It's i mean,
you say, where where is this coming from? It's not
connected to anything. You just see what looks like random,
weird slices of something. It's like, you know how, And
and medical scans they'll show you a slice across section
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of somebody's body, you know, that kind of thing. All
they would see is a little cross section. They never
have the ability to see you and what you were
in your entirety, only little figments of you. And again
you would appear and in their world and then disappear.
It would make no sense. Let's say you decided to
do the ultimate thing and you reach down into this
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little flat land if it's if it's a small place,
and you picked up a flat lander, you said, I'm
gonna show you what UP is, and you throw them
up into the air and they float back down into
flat land and it blows their mind. And when they
go to other flat landers and try to explain what
happened that they went to this place called UP, they'd
have no way of explaining it. They'd simply say they
had some kind of a mystical experience. That would be
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the best they could do. Carl Sagan did a very
good job of illustrating everything I've just told you in
a video you can find on YouTube if you have
any problem visualizing this. So my point is that when
people talk about having paranormal experiences, the kinds of things
they talk about are very very similar to what would
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happen if the three dimensional being interacted with a two
dimensional being in a two dimensional world. So if we
have beings that are are in other dimensions so to speak,
that are fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, physicists say there may
be dozens of dimensions, maybe more. If there are beings
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and these other dimensions that sometimes sort of pop in
and out here, then we are gonna have no way
of understanding their origins and where they spend most of
their time. And this may be why that we have
to consider. Um, maybe there are certain places where these
beings from other dimensions, certain places they like to visit
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more than others. Or maybe maybe there are people who
have more encounters than others. I mean, if somebody tells
you they've seen a monster or a creature of some
kind from one of these other dimensions, you can just
disbelieve that and say I I just don't believe it.
But anyone who says he or she has honestly seen
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a monster or a creature. I mean, if that person
looks at you and says, listen, I'm telling you here's
what I saw. I want you to imagine for a second,
if they are telling the truth accurately, how do we
explain this? Why do some people also seem to have
more encounters than others? Some people have repeated encounters with
these beings? Well, it reminds me of the Mothman Prophecies movie.
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It's a great book, but the movie is also fantastic
if you've never seen it. It's truly creepy and thought provoking.
Stars Richard Gear and there is a paranormal expert named
Alexander Leek, a very mysterious figure in the movie, who's
really burdened by what he's learned about these winged creatures
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that appear flying around just before disasters occur around the world.
And this guy, Richard Gears character is saying to Alexander Leeke,
I don't understand, like, why me, why you know? Why
are they following me around? Why do I keep interacting
with these things? And Alexander Leake says, quote, you noticed them,
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and they noticed that you noticed them. Some people are
more perceptive than others. I mean, I you should know
that I've been with the same woman for twenty twenty
three years. I think. Let me tell you what, if
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you're in a marriage for a long time, you know
that your partner can notice things that you don't notice.
At least that's how it is for me. My wife
Lauren very detail oriented. She is an artistic and crafty type,
and she she sees all kinds of details that I
would just miss. Some people notice these things, and they
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notice that you noticed them, and they like that. They
find that interesting, and they start maybe following you around,
interacting with you more, playing with you more. What happens
if you throw a bone to a dog, right, the
dog follows you around after that. But Alexander Leake in
the movie The Mothman prophecies, he says something else, which
is a very simple way of communicating a really important
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concept that I'm going to dig into. He says, as
he's talking about like why these these winged beings in
particular might appear just before disaster occurs, he says, quote,
you know, the build up of energy before something happens.
How hair stands up before lightning strikes. End quote. Now
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when it comes to Mothman in particular, there was some
kind of a build up of energy that was happening
in nineteen sixty seven around Point Pleasant, West Virginia. People
were seeing not just this big wing being flying around,
but they were seeing more UFOs, They had poltergeist experiences,
there were men in black showing up. These were harbingers
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of some kind of a change that was going to come.
And guess what, at the end of that year, a
horrible tragedy In December of nineteen sixty seven, right around
the area where Mothman was most prominently being seen, the
Silver Bridge collapsed, and it was the largest bridge disaster
in US history. Forty six people died and they fell
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into the Ohio River, and some witnesses claimed they even
actually saw a Mothman sitting on the bridge before it fell.
Whether not that's true, I don't know, but there is.
It's there's a bit much for coincidence that people kept
seeing Mothman right before that bridge collapsed. Well, I think
Alexander Leak was right. Sometimes there's a build up of
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energy in the environment. It's not always in the physical environment. First,
it starts in the non physical world and it finally
makes it into the physical world, and then pal It
releases snaps and during that period of build up, it's
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almost like we get a moment where the realms come
closer together. I'll tell you more about that when we
come back. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to strange
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back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio add
Coast to Coast, a um paradormal podcast network. I'm your host,
Joshua pe Warren, and this is the show where the
unusual becomes usual. In places like England, They've always talked
about hellhounds, especially like the one that appeared at the
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church at Bungay, Suffolk, England. These hellhounds, I'm telling you
you've got to look into these things. They are big, hulking,
demonic looking dogs. And the weird thing is when they
appear like they did at the church and Bungay, they
sometimes just go on a rampage. There's often a terrible
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thunder and lightning storm outside, and these dogs they appeared,
they ran into the church and they just started tearing
people apart. And the funny thing is they looked enough
like dogs that people could identify them as dogs, but
they had a lot of characteristics that are dogs, and
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this dimension don't have not only size, but glowing red eyes,
radiating heat that would burn people and things, incredible power,
enormous density, and weight so much as to break pieces
of masonry. And so it's almost like that there maybe
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a realm, or maybe there are realms that are just
a little bit askew from this dimension, so that the
life that has evolved there is not entirely weird and different.
It's not as different to us as some kind of
blob or whatever, or some tentacled thing like like some
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deep sea octopus. It's close enough that we do recognize it,
but it's different enough that we say, that's not here,
that's not from from our plane. Sometimes events happened where
it seems like these realms they bend and they come
a little bit closer together, and we are able to
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interact for a limited period of time. We are able
to see each other, experience each other, and then they
diverge again. You know what a capacitor is in electricity
and an electrical engineering, a capacitor is a very simple device.
It stores up small electrical charges over a period of
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time to a certain point, a critical point, and then
boom and discharges it all at once as a very
powerful thing. And it may be that whenever there's a
major change that's about to happen in the physical environment,
like the the burden, the stress that was on the
silver bridge that was about to collapse, that there is
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this rising tension first that happens in the spiritual dimensions
around us. That the physical world is just the crust
on top of the non physical world, and when changes
are about to occur in the physical world, like the
snapping of that bridge, the stress builds like tension leading
up to an earthquake and other ranges of energy, and
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we just catch little weird glimpses of effects from that
before the lightning strike, so to speak, and the major
event happens releasing that pent up power. That when that
energy is building up, sometimes the dimensions warp. It's almost
like a lens bending light. And it's during that period
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of time, that period of tension, when we get to
see and interact with these beings. And so therefore in
retrospect we look at them as harbingers, things that showed
up right before something big was gonna happen, usually big
and bad, not always, but usually, And so that means
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when you start seeing these things appear, you better be wary,
you better be cautious. And that's why we have these
things we call flaps, which are periods of time when
for some reason, a bunch of weird stuff happens leading
up usually to some big event, and you may not
even know what the event is. It may not happen
in your neck of the woods, but just nearby, and
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then after that the flap ends. For example, you know,
of course, the whole moth man thing was in nineteen
sixty seven and nineteen sixty nine, a moth woman was
seeing Have you ever heard of this? Yeah, moth woman.
This happened at Vietnam. A bunch of soldiers there in Vietnam,
solve a well, a woman who looked like a big
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bat that flew right over their heads. And um, that's
a whole other story. You can look into that, you
know for yourself, if you like flaps. I think of
these as periods of interdimensional weather. We have weather when
it comes to just about everything. We have space weather,
we have atmospheric weather here on our planet, and it's
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almost like we have interdimensional weather. I mean, most of
the time you go to tornado Alley, it's fine, it's peaceful,
it's calm, there's nothing going on. But then when the
conditions are just right, well, guess what you get this big,
beautiful symmetrical thing called a tornado, and it's terribly destructive
and it's there for a little while and then it
goes away. And often when you have that window, that
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window period, you see these winged beings. That's what you
know the mothman thing is all about. It's not all
ways them, though, it could be any kind of strange creature.
And usually if you see something that's a weird creature,
you try to figure out, well, what is the closest
thing it looks like? You know, this isn't exactly a bear.
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This isn't exactly a wolf, you know, so we'll call
it a were wolf or whatever. But it's close enough
enter dimensional weather. Do you know. When I was in
Puerto Rico, which is one of the points right there
in the center of the so called Bermuda Triangle, doing
my research, I found out that all these people around
this little area called Guanica, we're seeing a mothman. Basically,
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they called him the gargola, which is Spanish for gargoyle.
Six ft tall, you know, kind of black, hunch looking
thing with a face like a German shepherd and big
bat wings. I talked to five different active duty police
officers who had all seen this thing and told me
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with the straight face honestly, not only do they see it,
they shot at it. They went running after it. They
tried to catch it. They never could. Sometimes it was
flying and sometimes it was running along the ground. They
often saw it head and I would ask him, well,
where did it go? And they would always say like, well,
they kind of went in that direction. It turns out,
guess what, there was a monastery over there. Now, what
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is the meaning of that? Maybe if this is some
kind of an energy being, it feeds off of the
energy that comes from a spiritual central point. I don't know.
I don't know, but I said, my God, if they're
seeing this gargula around this area, I'm afraid. I don't.
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad news here, folks,
but I think something bad is probably gonna happen here soon,
probably some earthquakes and other things like that. Right after
I said that, okay, right after I reported this and
I talked about it all over the media. Sure enough,
Puerto Rico, it's got pounded by earthquakes. Well, well, first
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it was pounded by hurricanes. I got out of there
right when the hurricanes started hitting. It got pounded and
destroyed in many ways by hurricanes, and then the earthquakes hit. Boom,
boom boom. The earthquakes are ongoing to this day. Power
in Puerto Rico is out half the time. And guess
where most of the earthquakes are are focused on. Are
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focused around Guantica, exactly exactly where the gargula was being
seen flying around. If you believe I'm making this up,
go back and you listen to sub interviews that I
did on Coast to Coast A M. And a lot
of other programs where I predicted that something you know,
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of a of a big, you know, unsettling natural disaster
type nature was gonna probably happen right around uh Guantica,
and uh out look at what's happened since then, and
you'll see I can prove it. I can prove it.
So there's something to this, all right. So interdimensional weather
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is one possible explanation for these flaps you see all
these things, and it doesn't just have to be interdimensional beings.
It could be UFOs have easier access to us and
aliens as well. But then you have places that we
just call thin places, and these are places where, more
often than not, the natural environment just seems to be
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a little more shifted toward these other dimensions. And that's
why you have places like the Bermuda Triangle where we
more consistently have these kinds of reports, and there you
have you know, obviously you've got things there like the
chupacabra as well, which I'll tell you an interesting chupicabra
story in a minute. So that's another possibility. There are
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just thin places you can go and increase your chances
of seeing these things. But then what if some of
these winged beings, What if it is possible that some
of them are evolved enough so that they can actually
warp the dimensions themselves at will, that if they want
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to come and interact with you, they have somehow understood
how to do that. And maybe in some cases it's
technological like we think about with aliens and stuff like that,
or maybe it's a more organic skill. It's sort of
like saying, well, if you wanna, you know, fly, you
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can go out and build an airplane and get on
it and fly. On the other hand, you could just
be a bat, and it comes natural to you. Be
a bird, it comes natural to you. Maybe some of
these things building machines sometimes to interact with us, and
sometimes they just to have a natural ability. And so
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is it possible that some of these, especially winged beings
that may have an ability to warp the dimensions and
interact with us, are what we often call angels or demons.
Think about that they can come to you and do
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something for you, something good for you, something bad for you,
or something bad to you. That is going to be
a topic of a whole other podcasts. I'm gonna do
a podcast soon about angels and demons, and I'm gonna
give you my opinion on all that and what I've
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learned and some interesting stories and so just you know,
bear that in mind. I think that's going to be
one that you'll you'll find enjoyable. But when I was
in Puerto Rico, I met a guy who told me
about an experience that his family had with um the chupacabra,
because the chupacabra originated in Puerto Rico. And we talk
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about chupacabra as some kind of mangy old coyote, no
no no, and Puerto Rico, the chupacabra is a different
kind of creature and it does weird stuff. And I'm
gonna tell you about that when we come back. I'm
Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to strange things on the
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Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast,
a am paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
and I hope that you're not letting the chaos of
the new year get to you. Remember what I said
about staying positive and creating your own world, your own microcosm,
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brainwash yourself. Start with that, and you know it's important
to open your mind. Here's a little new thing that
you can do. Go eat something you've never had before.
You know what Lauren and I did the other day
here in Las Vegas. We found the biggest Japanese grocery
store around and we went there and we just bought
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all the weirdest stuff we could find. Some of it
I did. I honestly, it was like, I have no
idea what is in this package or in this can,
but I'm buying it. It's a surprise. We hauled this
box back to our house. I don't even want to
tell you how expensive all this stuff was, and we
just had a field day of going through and trying
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out all this weird, weird stuff. Maybe at some point
I'll tell you some of the things we tasted. I
don't even know what some of the things worth that
I tasted. But nonetheless, these are simple things you can
do in life. Eat at a new restaurant from a
different you know, different culture, different style, whatever, Try it out.
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That's part of the fun. And when you open your mind,
and you probably have a pretty open mind because you
listen to this show, you think, maybe not everything is
what it seems to be. People see encrypted, they see
a monster and they go, look, I saw it. It
was physical. This is not some phantom. I'm telling you're
right when you saw it, it was physical. But it's
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hard for people to accept that these things can switch
from physical to nonphysical because they look so physical, so
tangible when they're here. I understand, I get it. In
Puerto Rico, I met a guy who had lived there
his whole life. His he his family had been there
for generations, and he said that when his grandfather was
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a young man, and this was back in the early
nineteen hundreds, there was an area where on the island
a lot of the livestock was being killed in odd ways,
blood sucked. And by the way, the term choopa cabra
wasn't even created until nineteen It means goat sucker, and
it's named after these things that you know, sucked the
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blood out of goats. But people in Puerto Rico have
seen this creature going back for centuries and it's it's
not some main gee coyote like you hear about in
the American Southwest. We're talking about some type of a
creature that looks more like an alien. It's four ft tall,
big black eyes, spines that run down its black down
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its back. It often has wings, it can fly, some
people have encountered it. Instead, it just sort of had
this bizarre whirling warp that developed around it and it
just shot off into the sky like the Tasmanian devil.
So anyway, at this village in the early nineteen hundreds,
they were having so many problems with livestock being killed
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that um, they got the biggest metal trap they could
find in the area and they modified it and they
put it out one night with a goat inside his bait,
and all the guys got their rifles and you know,
pitchforks and whatever, and uh, the trap snapped and they
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ran up to it and this was a big metal
box and this box was rocking and there was some
kind of chaos inside. They were like, what could this
possibly be? They were afraid to open it, right, So
they all had their weapons poised, and some brave man
went over and opened the door to the trap, and
inside here we have the dead goat that's been torn
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all to pieces, but nothing else. The box was empty,
as if this thing had teleported and gone somewhere else,
spirited away. This is the kind of thing I'm talking
about when I say, maybe we reconcile those experiences and
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all these eyewitness reports with the lack of physical evidence
that we can hang onto with the more plausible explanation
that these are often interdimensional beings, not always. There are
still some things out there to be discovered. You hear
the examples of you know, like the cila cants in
the mountain gorilla and stuff like that. These are things
(50:28):
that were discovered, but that was you know, we're talking
now we've got all kinds of technology, satellites and let's
let's of transportation. I mean, it's harder and harder every
day to believe that if they're always normal biological organisms,
we wouldn't have more just evidence of an impact on
the ecology, you know what I mean, like more impact
(50:50):
on the food supply, more droppings, more hairs, more bones,
et cetera. But there are people who were out there
looking and you know what. On a recent edition of
this show, I played the dead tone. This is a
tone I extracted from an ancient symbol that has been
(51:10):
used to communicate with beings from the other side. And
I had to debate as to whether or not to
play it. But I finally decided, you know what, you're
listening to this show. As far as I'm concerned, you're
the top caliber, You're the cream of the crop. If
you want it, here you go. So I played the tone,
and I was surprised by the feedback. I told some,
(51:34):
I said, some of you may not want to hear this.
I got an email just today from Jason, who is
a big fan of this show. He lives in Colorado.
He's an investigator, and he said that he sent some
of my tones to his friends who are part of
a Bigfoot research society in New York State, and apparently
(51:55):
they decided to play some of these tones, especially the
dead tone okay, out on their big Foot investigation. And
when they started playing this tone, they started hearing some
kind of intimidating grunting and growling in the woods. And
(52:20):
this has happened multiple times now, and so basically he
said that these bigfoot hunters are starting to agree, like, yeah,
this is some kind of an interdimensional thing going on
here with this bigfoot. And so I decided tonight I'm
going to play uh, and I say, tonight could beat
today when you're listening to this whatever, I'm going to
(52:41):
play this for you again. I'm gonna play the dead
tone for twenty seconds at the end of this segment
because that's a really interesting thing. If if you are
investigating monsters, maybe you should try playing this. Oh. Also,
something else I want to tell you, Uh, there is
another fan of this show, a man named Mike Stewart,
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and he took the tongue for the one hundred dollar
bill and he expanded it and he sent it to
me and I tweeted it. My Twitter is at Joshua
Pee Warren at Joshua Pee Warren. If you go there,
you can get the extended version of the hundred dollar
bill tone and listen to that. Uh. And actually, if
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you just go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com, you'll
find my tweets there as well. So, um, here's a
quick story I want to read for you. This was
sent to me an email from Lawrence jug jig Larski,
who works in floor cleaning services, and he had this
experience in Woodridge, Illinois in n He said, I walked
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out onto the balcony of my apartment to smoke. It
was approximately twelve thirty AM, so half an hour after midnight,
and I heard a loud, low whistling sound, as if
a big wind was picking up. It was then that
I saw and I can only describe as a terra dectyl.
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It was huge, and it flew right past my balcony,
not five or six ft from me. It was so
close that I could see its big black eye focus
on me. It's I didn't move, it just sort of
focused on me. The quote bird was gray, had no feathers,
just small scales. His head and neck were not stretched
(54:27):
out looking down like you see in science books and museums. Instead,
it held its head like a pelican, with its neck
bent in such a way that the base of its
skull rested on its backbone. It didn't flap its big wings.
It's simply glided and moments later it was gone. I
was shocked. I stood there trying to figure out what
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I had seen. I went inside and told my wife
what I saw, but she didn't care about my experience.
I didn't have a computer back then, but have since
gone online and looked for some birds that might have
appeared similar to what I saw. Only a pterodactyl fits
the bill. Now what do you think he saw? Do
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you think that was the ghost of a pterodactyl or
do you think he may have seen one of these
enterdimensional beings glide right by him? As a matter of fact,
I have a picture a woman named Lynn Jackson took
of a very similar creature posted on my website. If
you go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com and click
(55:34):
the link to the Gallery of the Strange, you'll find
a section there called World's Wildest Ghost Photos, and there
you can see Lynn Jackson's picture of this thing on
her farm that looks a heck of a lot like
what this gentleman was just describing. Again, ghost or an
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enter dimensional being. M you know, these things, these monsters,
they might not be what you are expecting them to be.
But if you open your mind, and that's all I'm asking,
if you really look at the options, if you open
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your mind, maybe Michael Grady, the man who sent me
the email I read at the top of the show
was right. Monsters are real. I'll let you know what
happens with the folks in New York playing my tone
(56:43):
to get Bigfoot research done. And so one more time,
here is that tone. That's it for this edition of
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the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua pe Warren,
Plus visit Joshua pe Warren dot com to sign up
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you for staying curious, and I we'll talk to you
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