How Air Force One Works

As you might imagine, the President of the United States doesn't fly coach. But what exactly does he use when traveling from point A to point B, and how does it actually work? join Josh and Chuck as they demystify Air Force One.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know
from House top works dot com? Hey, and welcome to
the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is Charles W.
Chuck Bryant, Colonel Chuck Admiral Flight Coordinator. I'm a potato

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peeler camp counselor camp counselor. Charles W. Chuck Bryant with
me as always. How you doing, Chuck? Hey, it's November.
I know, happy November. November one? Right, yeah, yeah, which
is the first day in November. Just get any trick
or treaders? No? Nothing. I have two sets of steps
that lead up to my front door. And apparently kids

(00:48):
are fat and lazy these days in diabetic Did they
like y'all throw something down here to the street? Now? Now? Um,
we we left after a while. We just don't get
anybody who comes to our house. Did you get candy? No?
Not this year? We well we had before and we
just we sat there and ended up eating all of it.
And no one comes to our house either, So that's

(01:09):
good at all? Why oh, like our neighbors don't It's
sort of like as you come around the bend coming
from the other way, from the Decatur side, that's sort
of where it ends the trick or treating, Like the
bend in the road just it like approaches Memorial Drive
and people it just gets scary and there's a bus

(01:29):
stop and people turn their lights off. My neighbors are old,
they don't get into it. So I think that's just
sort of the Demarcasian Did you guys get candy? No,
we never, I mean we never do because so basically
it stinks. Man, I'm ready for Like, did you dress
up at all well for that stupid show? I did? Oh, yeah,
that's right. You dressed up as Paul Stanley in a

(01:51):
three piece suit. Yeah. Looking good. I think if you
asked me, we should post that picture. Yeah, my post one. Okay, Chuck, Yes,
you know Jay Carney is a family friend of my family's.
I did not know that. Well, he's not. I actually
got what I'm about to read off of the White
House website. Okay. I couldn't mislead you. I started to,

(02:12):
and I just stopped. Um, it's so far. It's been
a typically busy week for President Barack Obama. Monday, he
went to Las Vegas, delivered some remarks, went to l A.
Probably pulled a slaughter too, Probably you have to if
you go to Vegas, everybody's like get out of here. Um.

(02:33):
And then he went to l A, stay in l
A overnight. Right about now he is doing the tonight
show with Jay Leno. Should be on tonight, UM. And
then he goes to San Francisco, Denver, and then he
heads back to um d C Wednesday so that he

(02:54):
can meet with the Prime Minister of the Czech Republic
Petter Neckas. There is a lot of Flyn more Porton
than Jay Lenno. Yeah, oh yeah, you're a Cocoa fan,
aren't you? Te Coco? Yeah. I mean even if Conan
Membrian didn't exist, I would still think JNS bad. Did
you ever see uh night Shift, I think is what
it was called about, the late night the first late

(03:15):
night work between and UM and they've let him. Yeah,
that was good, It was real good. Okay, Well, aside
from that part, yes, you're absolutely right. That's a lot
of flying and every step of the way. Mr President
Barack Obama is going to be a board a luxury
decked out seven seven with a tail number of either

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twenty eight thousand or twenty nine thousand. You know how
I know that because it's written right here in this
wonderful article. Yes, this article called how air Force one
Works on how stuff works dot com. Uh, if you're
not familiar, you know a lot of people think like
we just this is our job podcasting. They don't, but
they don't put that together with the site. You should

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visit the site. And we work for a website called
how stuff works dot com. If you don't, now the
mystery is solved and air how air Force one works
is on fad site and we say that three that
said that three hundred and seventy five times, but people
still don't get it. It's true, Like what's your email address? So, Chuckers,
you want to do some history first? Oh? Why not?
You have you? Before you um read this article? Had

(04:23):
you heard of Air Force one? I had heard of
air Force Line. I had not heard of the guests
where to No, let's let's start it out, because the
presidential air travel is fairly new, right. Yeah, Up until
World War Two, it wasn't very practical to fly around
and one might even say dangerous, and you were cut

(04:44):
off because mainly because you were cut off from communications
actually telegraph like, no, I want that bill push through exactly.
But in n f DR said, you know what, I
want to take my wheelchair up on this bowing three
fourteen and uh, I want to take a little trip
to Casablanca. And that was the first presidential flight. Yeah,

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and he he actually took that flight for practical reasons.
It was because the Germans. The Germans had the Atlantic
completely under lockdown base and want to take a boat
in those days. He was like, no, I'm not going,
so I'll just fly and it went smashingly and from
that point on everybody said maybe the president should fly.

(05:28):
They said, this boating thing snakes, we should fly places.
It's much more efficient. Even a flying boat wouldn't do.
We just want to flying planes, right. Um, So coming
up next, there were I've got six planes before the
new set. That was number one. Number two was a
C eight seven, a Liberator Express and it was pretty

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much a BET twenty four bomber that was you know,
tricked out civilian style. There were there was padding on
the armrest exactly, and that was called the Guests Where too.
Just the worst plane name ever. Yeah, Well it's a
pretty like typical forties, like engineer. It's like a Colonel
John Paul's staff name the guess where too? It's pretty bad.

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The third plane, well, another C eight seven crashed and
they said, you know what, this might not be the
best plane because we don't know exactly why it crashed.
We don't want to put the president in there. So
then they configure to see fifty four Skymaster for that
same president because he was president for like sixty years.
And Um it had sleeping quarters, a radio, telephone, retractable

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elevator for his wheelchair, and it was named the Sacred Cow.
Better name, better than the guests where too? It's up there? Okay,
I mean it's okay. It definitely reminds me of our
grarian past. Yeah, all right, am I covering history here?
You got the Truman Show. Next, Um took over the

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Sacred Cow, replaced it the d C six called the Independence. Now,
he was from Missouri, so that makes sense that he
would call it the Independence Independence Missouri and its United States.
But I also got the impression that he um basically
it was a Garish plane. They had like an eagle
on the front, all sorts of patriotic decorations and nothing

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else that had had been decorated up to that point.
It's like the statue of Liberty threw up on this plane.
I haven't seen a picture of it, actually, no, but
I could see Truman being like real enthusiastically. Yeah, that
there and that there, you know, go shoot a commy
over there. How about Betty Boop up front? So our boys, no, no, something.

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Eisenhower introduced to propeller planes, upgraded the equipment, including for
the first time, air to ground telephone and air to
ground teletype, which is the first computer. That's not true, No,
Teletype was like facts. It was like the bouncing ball. Yeah, yeah,
I think so. That was the fourth and fifth sets

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of planes. Right, well, hold on, so so far a
couple of landmarks have happened, right. Um, they decked it
out for Roosevelt. It wasn't just a civilian craft any longer.
There was like some fly stuff going on. Truman added
a couple of other backup planes that were twin planes. Yeah,
which is big. Okay. And then now now we're we

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on too. Now we're undo Kennedy who in nineteen they
finally got with the plan and they got seven oh
seven Boeing seven oh seven jumbo jets, and they officially
called them Air Force one with their radio called designation. Right,
that was Eisenhower. That was Eisenhower. Yeah. During Eisenhower's administration,

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the Air Force adopted the seven seven and started calling
him Air Force one. And then when Kennedy took over
and everybody was crazy for all things presidential, Air Force
one caught on. It's for the public because he probably
went on and said air Force one at some point.
But he also redecorated it tastefully in the same way
that it's decorated today, which is nice. Yeah, it's I mean,

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it's timeless because you don't look at it and be like, yeah,
it's not it's not the vessel sink of airplanes. Home
wonders know what I'm talking about. Um. So Kennedy uh
added a more advanced seven oh seven that could fly
a little longer, but it was still a seven h seven,

(09:26):
like you said, redesigned it to his probably Jackie's taste.
Let's get real, and um added a twin plane to
that fleet in ninety two, and that was a very
famous plane because that flew him to Dallas and then
flew his body back from Dallas. I know, the way
that it's put in this article is so grim but
just dead on. It says that it on November nine,

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It flew him to Dallas and then brought his body
back later that day, which is crazy. You know, you
think about him on that flight on the way out there,
and then exactly and then on the way back, UM
John's and was sworn in very famously aboard air air
Force one. That photos very famous. And then the twin
seven oh seven flew Nixon to uh, I guess your Belinda,

(10:12):
California the day he resigned. Well, that's where his library is.
I believe it's your Belinda. Um, but Chuck, something else
kind of big happened. That leads us to a very
important fact about Air Force one. Midflight, the the flight
crew got word that Ford had been sworn in as president,

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and they changed the call sign for the flight from
Air Force one to um SMS a Special Air Mission SAM.
And the reason they did that is because the only
only the plane that the President of the United States
is currently aboard can be called air Force one's. Nixon

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was no longer president, so it was no longer air
Force one. So technically the big plane that we all
think of as air Force one isn't even air Force
one unless the president is riding in it. But we're
going to call an air Force one because that's what
people do. Yeah, we're not jerks, you know, but it's
it's the call sign for a plane, not specifically a
plan that was depressing. I wonder if they announced it

(11:17):
to Nixon, like and by the way, uh, this is
no longer air Force one, this is sam and twenty
seven thousand and Nixon just put his head in his hands. Yeah,
that was it. I could see that. At least I
didn't just crash it. They just jump out there like
a long sucker. Good luck. Um. So those are the
seven h sevens. They they kept flying all through Reagan, Yeah,

(11:39):
first half of the Bush Seniors term, and then they
were replaced by seven seven that are around today. That's right.
And the article says that could replace him as earlyist
two thousand ten, which is the twenty year mark. Not
so is when they're looking to replace these now, it's
like a delta flight or something. Yeah, so it's either

(11:59):
gonna to be another seven four seven eight or a
seven eight seven Dreamliner. Dude, that is any plane. I
checked it out. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, those are nice.
They have a really big bar in it. Yeah. I
think that's no, it's the air bus that that Emirates fly.
The airbus. Well, there's different configurations, but if you click

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Dreamliner Bowing seven eight seven Dreamliner interior and look at
the Google images, it's, uh, it's pretty mixing. And that's
just the standard one. I mean, planes typically are outfitted
and appointed very nicely. Well, and let's we're there, so
let's go. It is appointed nicely well. Yeah. Tom Harris,

(12:42):
who wrote this article, compares it generally to like a
really nice hotel, very nice office building. Yeah, but it's
a plane instead. Yeah. And there's also Marine one. We
don't want to short change the helicopter cousin of Air
Force one, which is a Chinook, which is my favorite helicopter,
and it's pretty sweet too on the inside. I mean
it's like a a smaller nice apartment pretty much. And

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that is obviously the you know, that's the helicopter that
it's the same designation when the when the presidents on
army plane, that's Army one. The Marines fly the helicopter,
so it's a Marine one. And um, the right now
we've got those identical bowing seven if you want to
get specific, Um, they have a lot Like we said,

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they're they're they're decked out differently. We'll get to that
in a second, but just being seven forty sevens they
have some specs. They are pretty impressive. Well, they're big.
They're three stories like all seven forty sevens. Uh. They
are as tall as a six story building and as
long as a city block guests. Depends on what city
you're in, I think it does. You're on, Yeah, exactly

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in the village. Are you uptown? Um? They each have
four general electric jet engines. Uh. Do you want to
read the jet engine number? Doesn't even out there? Know this?
They are ge uh engines CF six DASH eight zero
C two B one jet engines, which are money engines.
Each one produces fifty six thousand, seven hundred pounds of thrust, which,

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as we know from the Anti Matter spacecraft episode, produces
five million gs, which a human can sustain indefinitely. Yeah,
we should point that out real quick. In in show correction,
gees measure acceleration, so in theory, you would speed up
really fast and then level out, so you wouldn't be

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experiencing geese the whole time, like we thought, Yeah, erroneously,
and thank you physics people for correcting us. UM. The
seven sevens fly up to seven hundred miles per hour.
They go as high as forty five FET that's the
ceiling maximum. What happens after that they just break apart, disintegrate.
I don't think they disintegrate. I just think that's how

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high they can fly safely. May do something to your body,
I don't know. UM. And then they hold fifty three thousand,
six hundred and eleven gallons of fuel and a fully
loaded UM, fully fueled seven forty seven at least the
Air Force one seven forty seven's UM can fly halfway

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around the world before refueling. We should go ahead and
let the cat out of the bag. Then Air Force one, however,
can fly forever. Yeah, because you can refuel in flight,
just like the big bomber planes. And they thought that
would be a pretty swell idea in case the S
was hitting the fan on the ground, which it did
on September eleven two, one just keep them up there. Yeah,

(15:41):
there wasn't that one. The one of the planes United
ninety three that went down in Pennsylvania. Wasn't that destined
for the White House? I think so? And it was
pretty hairy even if it wasn't. They had no idea
who was doing water when it was gonna get hit,
So they said, just keep bushing the air, and they did,
and they could have for a very long time, not

(16:02):
just with fuel but with food as well. Yeah, they
have the ability to feed one hundred people, and I
think they have freezers down below that holds as as
much as two thousand meals, So they could have stayed
up here for quite a long time two thousand meals,
especially if they started throwing reporters out the out of

(16:24):
the you know door first ago. That's that's a bunch
of meals right there. That's true. Um so, chuck uh.
The does not have an escape pod though, well, we
don't know that it does or not. The awesome movie
Airforce One with Harry Ford, Uh, I have not seen
it as it good? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, do you
want to see your president kicking terrorists but with his hands? Yeah,

(16:46):
like he he fights. Of course, he's like a former
like Army ranger or something in the movie. We never
get presents like that anymore. You know. Uh, so, yeah,
it was. I enjoyed it. Um. So, yeah, apparently an
escape pod factors in. Yeah, we don't know if there's
one on Air Force one, but there could be. They're
supposedly not, but if they're not, gonna tell you that.
So I heard that Tom Clancy received a visit from

(17:12):
I don't know who it was, maybe the n s A,
the c I A, somebody, maybe the FBI came to
his house and uh interviewed him because he had hit
the nail on the head so closely when he described
some classified nuclear sub in the Hunt for Red October.
They wanted to know how he knew that, what the

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interior was like interesting, So it makes you wonder, you
know what he came up with for Air Force one. Well,
and that's one of the points of Air Force one
is there's a lot of classified stuff. So while we
know a lot of the parts, um, no one really
knows the exact layout in configuration and then people know,
but there's sworn to secrecy or have signed on to
secrecy exactly. But so let's talk about what we do know.

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There's four thousand square feet of interior space. That's substantial.
That's twice the side in my house. Um, and uh,
there's three levels, just like on any but the top
level is for communications generally, the mid level is like
the living quarters, and most of the bottom level is
cargo space and apparently freezers for food. Yeah, although I

(18:17):
did see that the president's living quarters, bedroom, bathroom, workout
room in office. I heard they were under the cockpit,
so maybe the cockpits. I think the cockpits on the
third that makes sense. Um, and conference room. The conference
room is I mean, they don't have unlimited space, so
the conference room is also the president's dining room. And

(18:39):
depending on the time of day, you know, some people
may be in there, other people might not be there.
Maybe a meal, there may be some pretzels on the table,
it depends. That's right, up to seventy passengers and twenty
six crew in total. Comfortably. I'm sure they could pack
more people in there, which means they have four leftover
meals at every meal. Yeah, you're right, Well does that

(19:02):
add up? Yeah they do. I'm saying you throw a
porter out bam, that's three meals a day. Well what
if he's reported that eats heavy, Well, yeah, what if
he's eating those other four meals. You know, Hunter Thompson
flew on Air Force one the next seven or seven
yea for Fear and Loathing on a campaign trails because
he was a legit journalist, so he was well for

(19:22):
Rolling Stone. Yeah, but he got to interview Nixon one
on one, but they told him all he could ask
him about his football. Did he ask him about football?
I'm sure he's probably that's fine with me. Rum diaries out. Yeah,
I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm gonna
go see it. I've heard it's an enjoyable mess, but
so is Hunter Thompson. Yeah. Um, getting back to Air

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Force one, the decks you can access up and down
with these retractable stairs, and the impression I got is
that they're retractable, probably so they can seal off the levels, right.
I mean they don't say that in the article, but
wouldn't that be the reason out. I don't know why
he didn't just come out and say it, but it's
their interior stairs. So yeah, if the president needed to

(20:06):
just go hang out in the cockpit and get away
from terrorists, he was losing the fist fight. I'm sure
he could press a button in the stairs just go
up and you're stuck on the second level. And there
are three exterior entrances as well, but the one we
usually see is the photo op obviously when they wheel
out the the rolling staircase to the tarmac and uh,

(20:28):
I think that's the front of the plane, the front,
middle in the middle, you know. Obama apparently like in
San Francisco. Uh, there's a child crying on the tarmac
and he went right over to it and grabbed it
and like calmed it down. I think that was today,
and the mother like came up and starts slapping it's
my child. I'm a tea party here. Uh. There's a

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staff area, Josh. There were two galleys, which in this
case are like seriously fully functioning kitchens, not the coffee
pot and the little rolling thing of frozen meals. Uh,
like we said, conference and dining room. And the crew
can actually ride and sleep there as well. Yeah, and
it's you know, most of the general space for like

(21:12):
the reporters and staff. It's like a really really like
the nicest first class plane you've ever been on, I know.
And that's just where they keep the reporters exactly. So
I mean you imagine that the President's sweet is pretty nice.
You've been on Elvis's at Graceland, Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
You may set off the alarm. She sat down on
the bed. Oh really yeah, interesting, the alarms just went.

(21:35):
She like rolling around like, oh, this is so lovely.
You know, she was pretending like she's gonna sit down
and then past like her her center balance and went
oh god, and like actually sat down on the bed.
That puts her in rare company. Yeah, and which she
got kicked off, and they came and she was already
standing up by the time they came where like, we

(21:57):
don't know what happened. They started going off by itself.
That's pretty funny. What else, Josh Extensive Electronics, Big Time
eighty five telephones, on board two way radio's facts computer
WiFi nineteen TVs phone system is just like secure as
it is in the White House apparently, which you know

(22:17):
it has to be um I like the medical facility,
which is scary, creepy, weird, you know, let's hear it.
So there's an onboard medical facility and has a fold
down operating table in case of emergency, has um e
er equipment fully stocked pharmacy for you know long flights

(22:37):
and Um, there's a staff doctor that travels everywhere logically
with the president. I imagine he's a surgeon. Like he's
probably or she is probably well versed in all fields.
When you think, like I would want a field medic,
a field surgeon plane, I'm sure it's not just like
you know, a good time doctor or anything like that.
I'm sure he's like probably has all sorts of like

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rulish training, like you can pull a bullet out of
your chest right or do open heart surgery on the
fly if he needs to. Or if the baby you
pick up and trying to calm has some sort of
poison TOCs and on its skin, exactly knows how to
treat that that was an anthrax baby. Uh. Some pretty
cool things as far as defense goes, although we don't

(23:20):
know much about it because it's not you know, it's
classified stuff. We've reached the point where Tom Harris just
started making stuff up. He did, Uh it is a
defense Uh. It is a military aircraft and is capable
to withstand an attack. That's what they tell you. They
won't tell you how, No, but it has a thick shielding.

(23:41):
I wonder if it's lead but they have has shielding
to protect the wiring inside and the communications equipment from
an electromagnetic pulse that a nuclear bomb gives off. Alright,
UM can send out flares which are pretty cool. Well,
that throws off the heat seeking missile exactly. It sounds

(24:01):
silly until you start thinking about the heat seeker coming
at you. Uh. And it has definitely has an electronic
countermeasure which will jam the radar. My feeling is is
that this bad boy has a fifty cow and some
rockets that can pop out of different places. I'm just guessing.
I have no idea with anyone from Homeland Securities listening.

(24:22):
If I was a president, I would want some some
munitions aboard, and I bet there are, but that's just
a guess. And it can it can squirt like an
oil slick after it so that any planes on its
spin out. Uh. It is a military operation. Every time
this thing goes up in the air, UM by classification,
they send out a crew at Andrews in Maryland. They

(24:45):
check out the runway like every inch of that thing.
Before every flight. They send out a plane ahead of
time that carries all the cargo, plane that carries all
the the motorcade cars SUVs. Um, it's pretty cool. And
if you are a sane junkie, that is a C
one one Starlifter cargo plane that carries the motorcade. I

(25:06):
bet it carries a lot of cars. And if you
are trying to fly into Andrews Air Force Base at
the time when they're starting to prepare for Air Force
one to take off or for Marine one to even
show up, they're gonna shoot you down. They're authorized to
shoot on site. That's right, and they're not gonna mess
around with that. Uh what else, josh, Oh, the football

(25:27):
is always on board. That is the briefcase that famously
holds the UH nuclear codes and um air an Air
Force officer guards this football during the flight to the president.
You know, he can eat without it being handcuffed to
his to his arm, and then passes it onto an
army officer once they reach the ground, passes off the football.

(25:48):
That's right. And then lastly that crew. So first of all,
the crew on board has two cruis as the flight
crew and the steward crew. And um, they quite an honor.
Well yeah, they also um screen these people. It's not
just like you've been really good. So here's your assignment.
Like they also have to go through your background and

(26:08):
your family's background, Like you undergo some pretty serious background
checks because you're on board this flight with the president
and he's pretty vulnerable, including by not just antrax baby,
but poison food attack. And where do they get this food?
They get it from a local market that's picked at random,
that has no idea that these people are are coming

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or who they are, because they just wear like dockers
and maybe like a member's only jacket, right, that's what
they wear to go shopping for the food. And they
mix it up, like you said, so they never know
where the food is coming from. And uh, you know,
like I said, it's an honor, it's a rare privilege.
And that I love how it in the article it
says every president since Truman has formed close relationships and

(26:51):
connections with the flight crew. I wonder before that where
they just ignored, Hey, but apparently Harry Truman ushered in
uh chumming up with these people because because he's from Missoura.
He's from Missouri. And when you get the president on
board Air Force one, that is when you're gonna find
a more relaxed, more human president, especially if you have

(27:15):
a good flight doctor. That's right, the end, the end,
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(27:58):
is gonna be I'm gonna call this bear nice follow up.
We did um are now annual reading. You gotta do
it twice for it to be annual. Yeah, at first
it's just an augural. People say first annual though, this kid,
it's just not right. So are now second annual Halloween
reading where we read royalty free works of literature that
are creepy and people like this one. Yeah, I think so,

(28:21):
I thought weld some like well, I didn't like that one.
Not one person has said it, not so far at least.
So this year we read Baronice by Edgar Allan Poe,
and we had a couple of follow ups. Um, you
remember at the end we sort of tried to figure
out what happened. Yeah, Sean writes in I'm sure you've
gotten a few of these as I read the story.
Baronice had a kind of epilepsy that left her comatose

(28:42):
and in a death like state. From this quote, trance
very nearly resembling positive dissolution makes sense. Of course, when
you're reading this sometimes it escapes you because you're trying
to read it well. So everyone did think she was dead,
and she was buried. He didn't hallucinate anything in his mania.
He dug her up, ripped out her teeth, and then
that act woke her from her trance. Hence the screaming

(29:05):
that wounded but alive Berenice and the blood all over
our narrator. Pro she didn't wake up buried alive to
die a slow, suffocating death. Cohn definitely no more Steak
Dinners in her future. That's from Sean. And then the
second one, I have to say, the protagonists loved her
enough as a friend he would have cut her steak

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and or chewed it up and spit it in her mouth.
This is from Julie and Julie Remember, I didn't have
the French translation, and we we had quite a few
people send it in, but hers was the best version
I thought. Just finished listening to Berenice. Um, thanks for
keeping up the creepy short story tradition. I have to
admit I was more than a little excited to hear

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that you didn't know the meaning of the French phrases,
because I can finally use my random French degree. Ah,
here's the translation of Mademoiselle Saul. It had been well
said that all her steps were feelings, and of Berenice,
I'm more seriously believe that all her teeth were ideas
the ideas. So here's what Julie thinks it means. Mademoiselle

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Saul was a famous French ballet dancer in the seventeen thirties. Someone,
perhaps her great admirer Voltaire you've heard him, probably described
her graceful ballet as creating feelings with every step. Ah.
I Gaius was so overwhelmed with all the imaginative thoughts,
that's the protagonist, which were provoked by her teeth, that

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he felt like each tooth was a source of a
new idea. I think she's right on the money personally.
I think all Eddie was showing off and probably pretty
tripped out, but that's part of his charm, and that
is from Julie. That's nice. Those are too like top
nozze seller fan mails. They weren't even fan mails. That's
a listener mails. That's right. Yeah, they're no fans. No,

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they're just smart. Um. If you're a smart person who
wants to tell us something you think we'd like to know.
We like to know just about anything, so that's cool.
Send it in any thought you have any ramblings although
we did get one recently. Did you notice it? I
can't remember what it was about, but it was a rambling,
was it? Yeah? I don't remember what it was, but

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