How Floods Work

Floods happen when more water is introduced to an area than can be quickly removed. That's about it, but there's more to floods, what causes them and the havoc they can wreak. Join Josh and Chuck in this super-saturated episode of Stuff You Should Know.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know
from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to
the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant,
and that makes this Stuff you should Know the podcast

(00:23):
The Saturated Podcast. This week Super Saturated, Bloody Podcast. I
don't know why this came to mind. I didn't see
any flood that happened on the news. It just I
think I happened across it searching randomly in a thought.
It's a good one. Look cover with that one. Yet
flooded stuff always creeps me out. Oh yeah, yeah. I

(00:43):
think it goes back to my days in Toledo as
a young boy. Um many times growing up in my
house on Beverly Drive, there were there the mommy would
flood and um my basement would flood as a result,
and times it would come all the way up to
like the top step. Really yeah, I just think about

(01:04):
like all my dad's tools down there like underwater, and
it weren't supposed to be. It was just really creepy
because you just opened the door and step on the
landing and then there's just water. You can kind of
see like the top couple of steps that was, you know,
suggested all the other stuff that was down there. So
I think since then, I've always been fascinated and creeped

(01:25):
out by the idea of things that are supposed to
be above ground submerged like ships. When we talked about
the Bermuda Triangle, like down there in the trench never
to be found, Like, yeah, that's creepy. Yeah, the same
thing with floods. Man, it didn't It doesn't creep me
out like that, but I get it, okay, so um chuck, Yes,

(01:47):
I take it you're familiar with flooding. Do you remember
the one in ninety four done in Albany, the Great Flood,
the Flint River flood. Oh man, it was all over
the news like they were like, um, in Albany, Georgia,
don't remember. There were caskets, like four hundred caskets were
loosed and we're just kind of floating around. They were.

(02:07):
They had this weird tendency to congregate towards trees or
around trees, and um they some people started lashing into
that because they had to have a court order to
even grab the caskets, but apparently it was the second
worst cemetery disaster in the United States. Couldn't find I

(02:27):
was in Athens at the time. I was. I was
not up on it was a big it was a big,
big thing. I'm surprised, but it was really creepy. You
can see pictures of like caskets just kind of floating around. Um. Yeah,
they recently found a human school that they think was
part of the remains that was moved by the flood. Yeah,

(02:48):
it's amazing how out of the news loop I was
while I was in college. Yeah, because it was pre Internet. Yeah,
I didn't get the paper. I was in college. Who
gets the paper and reads it? I knew people who
sold the paper. I didn't have TV, so yeah, I
knew about class and working at Maskalie Grill and sleeping
late and all of the kinds of things that I

(03:09):
can't talk about. That's awesome. I remember the Gulf War
that happened, well because of the Internet, that um came
after your college years, like two decades after your college years. Um.
You can see video of the news footage. You're fine
stepping back in time. I will do. Well. Let's talk
about flooding chuck um. First, I guess to understand floods,

(03:32):
we need to give a brief primer of the hydrological cycle. Yes,
we do, if you ask me. Uh, there's been about
the same amount of water on Earth for a long
long time. Yeah, I thought this was fascinating. Yeah, but
it hasn't always been in the same place as we know,
and it's not it's not the same water necessarily. There's

(03:53):
a constant loss and gain of water. Yeah, every day
you lose water, obviously to the atmosphere where like um, uh,
the solar rays and other cosmic radiation just blasts water
vapors into like nothing, You're gone, You're by longer water. Sorry,
as that is going on. Volcanic activity in the core
or not the core necessarily, but in the inner Earth

(04:15):
is releasing water and it about balances out on a
day to day basis. But did you know that volcanoes
released water? Sure after I read this. Yeah, we even
did a Hot Volcanoes Work podcast and I don't remember
talking about it releasing water. But when water is generator
introduced into the upper Earth in the atmosphere, it comes
from volcanoes of volcanic gas is water vapor, so it

(04:40):
about it balances out on a day to day basis,
which is pretty remarkable. Yea, almost as if it's happening
that way for a reason. And are you familiar with
the anthropic principles that we'll talk about it sometimes, right, Oh,
it's not directly relating to this, No, it's about the
concept of why everything is so falling and has fallen
so perfectly into place that we are able to notice

(05:02):
this and say, wait a minute, it almost seems like
we're supposed to be here, right, And the anthropic principle
is like, yeah, and there's like five million other worlds
out there that didn't happen like that, so we aren't
there to say, wow, it's almost like everything fell into place,
so we're supposed to be here. Interesting, we'll see. You
just told me about it right now. Trick to you. Uh.

(05:26):
Water can be all around the earth in three different forms,
as everyone knows. You have liquids, rivers, oceans, lakes, uh,
rain solids we've talked about and this this kind of
collects a lot of our podcast in a way, like
the clouds and the and now we're talking about the Antarctica.
Lots of frozen water at the falls the Antarctica, or

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it can be gas which is water vapor in the air. Yes,
and it's all moved around by the wind thanks to
the sun. And remember, I can't remember which podcast we
talked abo and whether it was the sun or clouds
or something, but wind is created by um. The exchange
of air is warm air is heated at the surface
and rises cooler air rushes in to fill that vacuum.

(06:13):
There's your windpal Yeah. And then well, once that warm
ay rises, though, it's also going to get colder and
form little droplets of water which form together to form clouds,
which we went over in fluffy little clouds, right, Yeah,
because the the sun um heats the ocean surface, that evaporates,
like you said, it rises, forms clouds, and then eventually

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those clouds become pregnant with rain and rain falls down. Right.
As the rain falls down, it fills waterways, rivers, streams,
that kind of thing underground um. But for the most part,
some of it does go to phil aquifers and that's storage,
but the vast majority of it makes its way back

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to the oceans where the process begins again and everything
is complete in the circle of life. That's right. The
cool thing here is wind is pretty consistent across the globe.
Wherever you live, your weather is pretty consistent. You might
think if you live in Atlanta, like, oh, that's crazy
in December here at sixty degrees. But by and large,

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if you look at the big picture, your weather systems
are pretty consistent on a day to day basis, although
in the case of flooding, anything can happen on any
given day to knock things out of whack. Right, So
you have, um, a storm comes about, a thunderstorm, and
you're like, wow, it's a pretty bad storm. Um, because
you are capable, your area is capable of experiencing a storm.

(07:38):
Your area is capable of experiencing a freak storm, like
a huge thunderstorm. Sure that dumps so much precipitation on
on the ground in such a short amount of time
that these normal waterways that have been formed to hold
the normal amount of water become overwhelmed. The water fills up,
spills over the banks, and there's your flood. Yeah, And

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that's the key what you just said there is these
waterways they form over a great, great period of time.
You don't a river doesn't just spring up over the
course of a year. Because there's a lot of rain,
it takes like of several years. It takes a long
long time to sort of get a feel I guess
of how much rain there is generally, And so this

(08:21):
is how big I'm gonna be if I'm a river
in Georgia, exactly. This is all I need to be,
except for the freak of currenc in. Oh my god,
now it's a flood. But then after a flood, it
goes right back to where it was before. It's not
Rivers don't tend to plan their size for the worst
case scenario. They're very lazy. That's a great way to
say it, lazy lazy rivers. UM. So, like we said,

(08:45):
the the most common cause, the one that people are
most familiar with. Um. The most common cause of flooding
is um, a large storm that allows a an anomalous
accumulation of precipitation. Yeah, with rain, could be uh, melting
ice from a mountain or snow, but rain is the

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one we think about most often. And like you said,
because weather and patterns are pretty um, pretty stable over time. UM.
In a lot of places, depending on the season, you're
going to get anomalous normal precipitation, right, like monsoon's seasonal flooding. Right.
So with the monsoon, um, you have in the winter time,

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the air over the land is colder than the air
over the ocean, So the air over the ocean is
rising in the air over the land is moving out
to fill it up, so that that means the wind
is blowing out toward the ocean's uh. In the summertime,
the opposite is true, and so the wind is blowing
in toward the land and that brings with it the

(09:49):
monsoon rains brings with it water and this annual monsoon flooding. Um,
we talked about it. We didn't call it that because
we're not that small, aren't. But in the how of
the Nile River works, yeah, exactly, it was. It was
and still is a very big part of their how
they thrived over the years was they knew that the

(10:10):
Nile would flood each year and extend the water out
and when it waters were seated, that left a nice
fertile banks on which to live and plant foods. And
remember we talked about some of the problems from the
Aswan Dam and other dams that they built along the
Nile to control flooding. Basically say we're gonna release this

(10:31):
amount of waters and go crops year round and people
aren't gonna lose their houses to the nile flooding every year. Um.
That is actually one of the big causes of flooding too.
Damn breaks. Did you see that damn video I sent you.
I didn't have a computer. You didn't look. You didn't
see it on your it was flash. Uh it's really neat.

(10:53):
I'll look at it later. I can't remember the name
of the damn, but it's in Washington State, And in
October of this year. UM, it had like a controlled
demolition and they just blew a hole in the bottom
and all of a sudden, this water search comes pouring
out and fills this area up, and then it starts
to recede, and you see the water behind the dam

(11:16):
just start to go down as the water in front
of the dam starts to go up. It's really neat
looking not to check that out. Or if you're from
Pennsylvania or a historian, then of course you know about
May thirty one nine, the Johnstown flood. Um And it
wasn't just Johnstown by the way, It's known as the

(11:36):
Johnstown flood, I think because that was the largest town
that it flooded, but it was I think fourteen miles
up stream from Johnstown was the South Fork damn, and
it hit a couple of towns on the way. Finally
hit Johnstown, Uh six to ten inches of rain in
twenty four hours, to the tune of a sixty ft

(11:57):
wall of water going forty miles per hour wow, rushed
through town. UH twenty million tons not gallons, twenty million
tons of water. And it was the first big disaster
relief effort by the Red Cross. Yeah. Um, I got
a number of two thousand, two hundred nine deaths, UH
seventeen million in damages, which would be over four hundred

(12:20):
million dollars today, like close to a half a billion
in damages. And Springsteen fans might remember that from the
song how We Patrolmen. These sings about the Johnstown flood
really folk hero, He's all over it. We also remember
we talked about in the Human Caused Earthquakes episode the
Viant Damn in Italy, a landslide caused a wave to

(12:44):
go over the dam and killed two thousand people. That
seems to be the number when a damn breaks or
for each two thousand people die. You know what I
think it's cool is after having done like four hundred
plush shows like the our world is starting to narrow
a bit. You know what's really crazy, What is we've
already had this discussion and now we've come back to

(13:05):
having it again. That's really narrow Well. I just think
it's cool when you do a podcast on flooding and
it's also one about the Nile in clouds and volcanoes,
and I mean, we're still a long way from covering yeah,
the sun, We're a long way from covering everything. But
our world view is narrowing in a good way, and
now we're like men and knights. Um Land plays a

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big part because you know, you can have a lot
of rain, but depending on what kind of land it's
falling on, it's gonna affect how much it floods. If
it floods at all, like the soil in the middle
of a forest, it's gonna really soak up a lot
of water. Hard clay or rock or obviously concrete and
asphalt aren't gonna soak up much if anything, so that's

(13:49):
gonna lend itself to flooding. Yeah, and um, agricultural lands,
crop lands that have been tilled, they're more prone to
flooding than woodlands. Do you want to know why? Yeah?
Why I was wondering. You got that. We're about to
circle right back again. But to earthworms, that's exactly why.
That's why woodlands don't flood like farmland because there's more

(14:10):
little passageways from earthworms. Yes, and if you till cropland,
if you till the land has a a deletrious effect
on the earthworm popular that word like that. Yes, the
earthworm population in the area, they basically leave, they take off,
or else they're cut in a bunch of pieces. So
it does have a very delus effect. Deletrious, deleterious. What

(14:35):
is it species that called out big time? It's species.
It's deletrious. It's not deletrious. Um say talk about species.
I was wrong on species because it's there are two
acceptable ways of saying that. No, there's a right way species. No. No,
if you look it up, it says species or species.

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I can't say anything. I can't even keep track of
the difference between I and I and me. Concrete an asphalt,
which I mentioned Josh here in the western world. There's
a lot of that going on. If you go to
a city like l A, which I lived in, as
you know, Uh, they have these concrete flood relief channels
built in. You don't even have to go to l A.
You can travel there via the movie Greece. Oh the

(15:21):
like the l A River basins that what that is? Yeah? Okay, yeah,
that is in T two. It's in the movie Them
and These that that you know, the where they have
the car, they called it the l A River, which
is kind of funny. Yeah. Um, before they paved it
with concrete. Um, they used it for the canoe scenes
and a lot of the Tarzan movies in the thirties.

(15:45):
It's all just smoking mirrors. Mash was in Malibu for
God's sakes. Um Levies Josh are another reason it can flood,
as we all saw with the disaster with the Katrina
New Orleans when the levee breaks, as Robert Plant said,
got no place to stay. No, you don't. And do
you remember earlier this year when they purposely opened the

(16:10):
Morganza spillway. Yeah, basically they sacrifice some local crop land
for a lot more downriver. And that's one of the points,
like the reverse of the thinking usually or it has
been historically. Well, that's the point they make about all
levies though, is generally they're great for that area, but
there's generally there's gonna be a problem on down the
line at some point. Well, the same thing with concrete

(16:33):
storm basins. It's the same. It's you're you're basically just saying,
all right, let's get the water through here, and then
when like the tower base runs out your county line,
you handle it, and here's your flood county, but beneath us. Well,
what I couldn't find about the Morganza spillway was the
the effect, Like I saw like a hundred articles on

(16:56):
the fact that they're going to open it up. And
then the only article I found Poe releasing like I
think it was first time since nineteen seventy three they
opened up a lot of these gates, was like a
week after they said, well, it doesn't look like it's
going to be as bad as they thought. And that's
all I found. If it's the one I'm thinking of,
it was a huge cluster that was on the Army

(17:17):
Corps of Engineers. They they created an incorrect estimate and
it really screwed up a lot more land than they thought.
If it's the same one I'm thinking of. It was
this year last year. Yeah, it was spring when the
rivers were rising, and they said, we can't devastate New
Orleans again, so we're gonna open up a lot of

(17:38):
these gates, like up in like Missouri or something. Right,
No, no no, no, it was in Louisiana. Okay, Well, there
was one in Missouri where they let the levy loose
um and flooded some crop land and it ended up
like screwing things up all the way down or over
to like Tennessee. I can't remember, so I guess that's
those are two different stories. So if you live in Louisiana,

(17:59):
I like to know the effect because I know they
said it wasn't as bad as they thought, but I
couldn't really get a pinpoint of the damage. And I
want to know what happened in Missouri. Okay, okay, uh,
let's talk about the coastline. Yeah, and we didn't mention,
by the way, um hurricanes too, tsunamis. Yeah, tsunamis hurricanes
big problems um as far as creating flood conditions. But yeah,

(18:22):
the coastline Um, you're talking about levees and dams. They
fall into man made ways of diverting water to other
people's problems. Um, And we've figured out ways of I guess,
protecting our beautiful coastlines from mother Nature. And that's building walls,
basically walls. It's like, have your worst waves, You're not

(18:45):
gonna erode this beach. But the problem is is the
whole process of erosion is part of creating and keeping
beaches healthy. Yeah and beautiful. Yes. I remember I used
to go to Hunting Island, South Carolina when I was
a kid, and my mom went not too long ago,
and she said that they have actually, like the whole

(19:06):
coastline is different now. For when I was a kid,
they had they had to move a lighthouse inland because
it had eroded so much. But they just, you know,
they let it happen because it is a natural part
of beaches, and it's a natural like oceans, beaches, rivers,
they're all dynamic, right exactly. You know, they're all gonna

(19:26):
move earth and water and that's just the way it's
supposed to be. And when humans step into try and
prevent that, bad things can happen. Well, and we try
to prevent it because we tend to settle near water.
It's um, each transportation it puts living on the beaches nice.
Well yeah yeah, but I mean even with the river too,
it's like there's your crop land. Yeah, there's your easy

(19:47):
access to irrigation, easy transportation, um food water obviously, so
we need to live near water. And then when these
natural processes happened and takes our houses the way, we're like, okay,
let's figure out how to how to solve this. And
sometimes the solution is just kind of exacerbates the problem,
that's right, or creates a new one. Yeah, So we

(20:10):
just gotta figure things out. I think we're working on it. Uh.
This is one really cool part I thought was you
always see how you know a flood, floodwaters will wash
a car away or something, and it doesn't even look
like that much water, and you think, you know, I
drop my I drive my truck like through a river
in the North Georgia Mountains and you just plow right

(20:31):
through it and that's like twice as deep and really
rushing river that nature take that nature. But the difference
here is I thought, this is really interesting, is is
water what water wants? To do is level itself out.
So when you've got a lot of water from a
flood in a place where there's previously no water at all,

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it's gonna want to find its level as soon as
possible by rushing really hard. So it's just gonna be
a lot more force than the steady stream of a river.
It's really easy as that, and that's all there is too.
So like a couple of feet of water can wash
a car away, two ft two ft of water in
a flood condition where it's rushing from one from a

(21:13):
higher higher level to a lower level it's balance out
can wash a car away, and six inches under those
conditions can knock you human off his or her feet.
And that's how people die in a flood. Well, I
think half half of the deaths associated with most floods
are from people trying to ford a rushing um uh

(21:38):
water in their car, sill away in their car. That's
the problem, because you get carried out and you're in
your car and you're trapped, and that's that. That's that.
It's very sad. Flash flooding the most dangerous of all floods. Yeah,
this jogged my memory when they was talking about um,
Big Thompson Canyon, Colorado. I think we might have hit

(21:59):
on that at some point because it jogged my memory too.
You want do you want to talk about? Well, yeah,
in nineteen seventy six, July one, Colorado was celebrating its
centennial and at about five or six o'clock it started
rain and it was a really weird thunderstorm that didn't move.
It just planted itself for four hours over Big Thompson Canyon.

(22:24):
Ranged twelve inches in four hours, and that's how much
the area gets in a year usually. I mean, yeah,
that's crazy. In four hours and uh, a twenty ft
high uh rush of river going about fourteen miles an
hour by nine pm washed through the canyon, and it
was so like out of nowhere, which is what a

(22:45):
flash flood is. It's not like, hey, you know, with
the Johnstone flood, they had warnings even though people didn't
heed them, and most of the times you know a
flood's coming. But with a flash flood, they were just
like trapped. Plus they're they're also just happened to be
thousands of campers down there celebrating this centennial of Colorado.
It was well, the perfect storm, but the river that

(23:05):
feeds the canyon. Normally Big Thompson River um is apparently
normally pretty slow moving, the old Big Titty, but because
of this flash flood, it was dumping two hundred and
thirty three thousand gallons eight d two thousand liters of
water into the canyon per second per second, so that's
a lot. So basically, a flash flood is like a flood,

(23:27):
but it's even more concentrated and the water is moving
even more violently. That's crazy. I got the number between
a hundred and thirty nine to a hundred and forty
five dead, five were never seen again, four hundred cars,
four houses, and forty million, which would be about a
hundred and fifty million today. And interestingly, and three years ago,

(23:49):
this one guy was found alive in Oklahoma that they
thought died. He got he left town that morning and
like didn't tell people, and I think they were that
came up in records and he was like, no, I'm
I'm out here in Oklahoma. I'm just fine. I didn't
he didn't even realize that he was on the death list.

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But they still room every July thirty one, they still
pay remembrance. Obviously, in Colorado Um, there's also I mean,
you think about cars being washed away and people being
knocked off their feet and being flooded in canyons, But
there's also a lot of problems with flooding after the fact,

(24:30):
Like a flood brings with it a lot of silt
and mud and nastiness, sewage, sewage, and um. When the
floodwaters recede once again, Um, all that stuff sticks around.
Apparently Florence, Italy suffered a pretty big flood on the
um Arno River, right, Yeah, And Florence, of course is

(24:54):
one of the great repositories of Renaissance art, and a
lot of the repository in that repository were basements and
for stories, and that stuff got flooded. And apparently they
got a lot of the stuff back to at least
good quality, a lot of it, but they were I
looked up. There were six hundred thousand tons of mud

(25:16):
and sewage after they left, fourteen thousand works of art
and a hunt um sorry, three to four million books
and manuscripts and records. And I don't know how many
of the fourteen thousand were restored, but I bet it
wasn't you know what I'm saying. Yeah, because a lot
of stuff was completely destroyed. That's awful, very sad. At

(25:38):
least invading hordes didn't set it on fire on purpose.
Also killed about a hundred people, which you always hear
about the artwork, like I had to really research to
find the amount of deaths. Really Yeah, well, well not
that much research, but a few extra clicks, I guess. Um,
and then disease is another big problem to you said, sewage, chemical, um,

(26:01):
the deceased, All of this is mixed together and albany.
That probably was not a fun soup. No, So if
you are if your area is flooded, you want to
basically boil any water that you're going to drink or
drink bottle of water. Um, get one of those one
uh the water manufacturers that sucks the water vapora of

(26:23):
the ambient air and converts it to bottled water. Did
you hear about the Nettie pot deaths? Recently? These two
people in Louisiana died and they believe it was from
using the Nettie pot, which I use on a daily basis,
and it got they got a brain eating amiba into
their nasal passage from using contaminated water to Nettie with

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and my friend. You know, I've been netting for like
six years every day, and my friends drew bout that
I would do that. Who are you? It's like, come on,
did your friend know that he sounds like that? When
you say I was, I was aping him. He sounded
much more intelligent than that. But I'm not gonna stop knitting. Well,
you have to boil the water, at least yourself that
you're going to do that, chuck brainy eating ambo would

(27:10):
not look good on you. I'll take my chances, all right, Okay,
I guess that's it. I got nothing else. I got
nothing out flooding. Do you want to call out for
anything in particular? Yeah? Sure, if you live in Big
Canyon or or Johnstown or a story. Yeah, I bet
you got some some personal anecdotes the family member. Man,

(27:32):
yeah you can. Oh wait, wait, we haven't done less
your mail yet. Man, we're about to jump the gap.
Were you? I thought you're about doing that. It's about
like give our email. Well, if you want to learn
more about floods, you can type in floods in the
search bar at how stuff works dot com. And I
said search bar, So it's Chuck's turn for a listener mail, Josh,

(27:57):
I'm gonna call this uh request for Adam to save
birds before this table? Your request of what request from
Adam to help save birds before the bowl? He has
he has a thing going on and it ends at
this bowl, so we want to get it out. I
come to humbly beg a favor. Guys. He said he

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could apply us with beer if his loyalty is not sufficient.
In this case it is sufficient. I don't know beer
canunail my NGOs fundraiser needs a plug. We are the
Alamos wild Lands Alliance. I'm the research director there and
we are trying to create a reserve in a rare habitat.
We also do research and education in a remote part

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of northwest Mexico. We run a biological field station called
the Navopatia Field Station. You can check us out on
Facebook and our website is www dot Alamos wild Lands
dot org. That is a l a MS wild Ds
dot org and it's a US based nonprofit. It's very small,

(29:05):
run by volunteers. Most of you says, run by birds,
run by birds and put the second in a row.
They're doing a fundraiser called the Bird a thon and
it's like a walkathon, but instead of miles walked, people
get pledges for the amount of bird species they see
in a given day. My team had a hundred and
sixty three last year one day. It's pretty good. It
is a fun way to raise money for conservation in

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a place that is unique and rare. That runs from
January February. We often have a Super Bird Saturday when
most people go out the day before the Bowl, which
is a football game played here in the United States,
American football and not here a people, not soccer or
the rest of the world football. Yes, uh more. Teams

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are always welcome. We have at least eight now, though
some have yet to register, and anyone can start their
own team or just donate. It's really easy and it's
on our website. The money goes to a good cause
is text deductible. And here's something sad, josh uh, the
environment and animals only get about two percent of charitable
giving worldwide. I have to be honest, I'm surprised that

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the environment and animals And he says, yeah, so humans
get the other nine percent. I guess so, which, you know,
charitable giving us good no matter what. But forget about
our free creatures. Attached our some pictures of my team,
the Luca Doors. We wear masks and capes while birding,
so it kind of ties him nicely with the podcast

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we did on Mexican Rensity, which was not this one.
Can we post that picture? I don't know, I'll check
and uh then he has His wife's team is called
the Boobies, named after the blue footed booby, a common
bird that we have down here. Regardless, guys, thanks to
both of you for helping to make being smart cool again.

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So please go check out www dot Alamos wild Lands
dot org and sign up and sponsor someone for this
bird of fon Super Bird Saturday. Get a team together,
help these guys out. That's awesome. Tet Uh did you
mention the s Bowl? Did you use the actual name?

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Because I think we can get in trouble for that
for saying I don't think you should say it. Really yeah,
we'll find out. How can we get in trouble? Like
apparently they actively sue people who use that word, like
even mentioning it. Like remember the Simpsons, they never mentioned
what they're where they were going when they went to
that huge football game and Dolly Parton the episode that

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Dolly Parton is on. Now I have the halftime of
my life. Yeah, all right, so we can just beat
that out and people be like, smol, what's that right? Exactly? Okay, Well,
if you have an NGO that you think we'd like
to plug, we're happy to do that from time to time. Um,
you can tweet to us, especially if it's a bird

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