November 20, 2024 • 13 mins
Martha Mitchell, the wife of Nixon's Attorney General, was well-known to spread a juicy rumor. That's why when Watergate unfolded, she was held captive in a hotel room on her husband's orders and painted as a crazy alcoholic.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh and
there's Chuck and it's just us and that's okay because
we're doing short stuff. So let's get started. Everybody, calm down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's short stuff, that's right. We're going to talk about
Martha Mitchell, who was the wife of John Mitchell in
the nineteen seventies, who was Nixon's attorney general for a time.
And Martha Mitchell was from the South. She was a
Some argue that she was one of the first sort
of conservative political pundits because she loved to go on TV,
(00:36):
not like a lot of politicians' spouses at the time
that kept a lower profile. She loved to be on
TV and talk about things, and she loved to call
in to journalists, maybe have a couple of bourbons and
callin to journalists and give quotes. And you think, like,
oh boy, this sounds like trouble. Eventually it could have been.
But they loved her. Nixon loved her because she went
(00:58):
out there and said the things but not a lot
of people were saying in public at the time that
he loved.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I saw that she was known as the mouth
of the South. She was from Arkansas, and one of
her quotes was, I don't believe in that no comment business.
I always have a comment. That was basically her guiding
ethos her athis one of the two. And she was
huge at the time, Like she wasn't just like a, hey,
(01:24):
I really like what you have to say to the papers,
way to go. When you ran into her at lunch,
like in nineteen seventy during the election, if you went
to a Republican fundraiser, there was a really good chance
that she would be speaking there. Like you said, people
loved her, and including Richard Nixon, who was just a
fan essentially.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, for sure. In June of nineteen seventy two, the
Watergate building was burgled, as everyone knows, and Nixon and
his inner circle were like, we didn't have anything to
do with this. I don't know what you guys are
talking about. And then one of them said, hold on
a minute, there's something that Martha knows about this that
(02:05):
could spell trouble for us. And this is that story,
because it gets pretty crazy, so crazy that there was
a series in twenty twenty two. Was it a series
or show? I think it's a series called gas Lit
starring Julia Roberts as Martha Mitchell Mitchell and a very
(02:26):
heavily makeuped and balded and changed Sean Penn as John Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, although Sean Penn has done so many eight balls,
it's possible he just looks like that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now. Oh no, Sean Pimsill looks good. This guy he
looked like John Mitchell, which is to say, old and
bald and little tubby.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well so, just as a spoiler, John Mitchell eventually
went to prison. He's the first and only US Attorney
general to go serve time in federal prison. That's how
badly this went for him. But at the time after
the Watergate break in, when the Knicks campaign, because he
stopped being Attorney General for Nixon and became the head
(03:04):
of Nixon's re election campaign, he ran the committee to
re elect the president the CRP. Everyone else on the
planet called it creep instead, and so he was running that.
So at the time, right after the Watergate break in,
when they were still denying, denying, denying, you can't prove anything,
(03:25):
and he realized that his wife would definitely call the
press if she got the chance. He hatched a plan
to keep her from doing that and like you said,
it takes a crazy turn, and it's about here where
it does. Because he and Martha, John and Martha were
had a fundraiser in California at the time with Governor
(03:48):
Ronald Reagan and John Wayne and.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They were.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's when the news of Watergate broke. Essentially, so John
Mitchell flew back to DC, but he said, Martha stays here,
and then he talked to some other guys and he said, essentially,
make sure Martha stays here, keep her away from the newspaper,
and do not let her call anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's right. And the big, big reason that they were
worried about her was not just because she liked to
talk to the press, but it was because one of
the people caught in the Watergate burglary and arrested was
a guy named James McCord. He was a security director
for the reelection committee for Nixon and had a very
close tie to that family because when her husband quit
(04:33):
the Attorney general position to become head of that committee
for reelection, she lost Secret Service protection and he got
none other than James McCord to be her private personal bodyguard.
So if you can add one and two together, as
Martha Mitchell. You would know if you knew James McCord
was caught breaking into the Watergate that it probably had
(04:56):
something to do with a Nixon campaign.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, so I say we take a break, come back
and talk about Martha Mitchell's ordeal.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You should know why.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We should know knows, but.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Talk Josh Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, Chuck. So Martha Mitchell is being held in a
hotel in luxury. Of course this isn't you know, She's
not like in some Rundown hotel. This is a nice hotel.
I'm presuming. I don't know why that matters. It does
a little bit, but it's unnecessary to say.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, they didn't take her to like an abandoned warehouse
and retired to a chair.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Great. Great, thank you for saving me. And apparently for
a little while they were able to keep her away
from the news. I mean, this is a time when
there was no such thing as twenty four hour news networks,
and you had to physically get your hands on a
newspaper to read the news a lot of times. But
eventually she did get a newspaper, and she did read
about the Watergate break in, and she did read that
(06:17):
James McCord, her former bodyguard, was one of the people arrested,
and she did put two and two together and say,
I can't believe this, but my husband and probably Richard
Nixon directed the Watergate break in who can I call?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's right. She was pretty mad about the fact that
she was being kept in the dark, obviously very frustrated.
Just watched that trailer at least with Julia Roberts and
it got kind of hairy in there. So she starts
fuming a little bit and causing a bit of a commotion.
I'm not sure if it happened exactly this way, but
(06:54):
in the TV show, she called from a bathroom phone
like hotels have bathroom phone times right there by the toilet,
and one of these guys, you know, quote unquote safeguarding
her was an ex FBI agent named Steve King, burst
into the bathroom, ripped the phone out of the wall.
She was talking to Helen Thomas of UPI, one of
(07:14):
her favorite reporters that she liked to talk to, and
Helen Thomas, here's the line, go dead, tries to get
back in touch and then eventually calls John, the husband
who said that little sweetheart I love her so much.
She gets a little upset about politics, but she loves
me and I love her, and that's what counts. When
all along what had happened is that Martha was physically
(07:37):
tackled and injected with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, by a doctor, but still she's being held down
and sedated against her will, which is nuts. Again under
the direction her husband. Yeah, I mean, it's better than
some FBI agent doing it, but sure, a.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Little, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I do have a huge criticism of this operation, though, Chuck.
I don't condone what they did to her. But if
they were going to do it, there was a huge
step that they missed, which is rent a second hotel
room and get rid of all of the phones in
the hotel room that Martha Mitchell's being kept in, and
if John Mitchell wanted to get in touch with her,
(08:19):
he could call the other hotel room and then they
could relay whatever message they needed. That was just bush league,
amateur stuff leaving any phone in there. If one of
the directives was to keep her away from the phone.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, And when they checked in, when they said, well
would you like the paper slit under your door every morning, sir,
and they're like, oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right, that sounds great. Is it free? Because I don't
want to pay for it, but if it's free, definitely,
can we get two?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh boy? Yeah, they didn't do it right Martha. And
we should say we're kind of joking here, because Martha
was not injured or anything like that, but she was
held against her will, essentially kidnapped, held against her will,
and then gaslet like nobody's ever been gas lit before.
Because she eventually was set free, she went right to
(09:08):
the press and said, you know, I was detained, I
was forced into sedation. And the New York Times ran
it on page twenty five, and the Nixon administration painted
her as a kind of a crazy lady with a
drinking problem.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I mean very much so. As a matter of fact,
they their smear campaign was so far reaching that when
John Mitchell resigned from being the head of Nixon's re
election committee, he said that he needed to spend or
wanted to spend more time with his wife and daughter.
The Nixon campaign leaked to the press that the real
(09:44):
reason he left was because Martha had a drinking problem.
It was unstable and needed basically constant attention from her husband, Yeah,
which just supported the whole idea that she was just
off her rocker talking about being held against her will
and sedated. What is this lady even saying?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And like who would do that? What kind of administration
would do that?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, what kind of husband would do that too? You know?
And I saw that the stuff, the articles that they
did run were run in the women's pages. I made
scare quotes, but that's what they were at the time,
like women's interest stuff. And the way that they ran
it was essentially not like can you believe what happened
to this woman? It's hey, get a load of this.
These two are a famous married couple, and there's trouble in.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Paradise, right, like gossip.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, So this poor lady got dragged through the mud.
And we know for a fact that this actually happened
because later on James McCord, her former bodyguard who was
involved in the Watergate breaking, he confirmed it. He said,
this absolutely happened to her in nineteen seventy five. He
confirmed it. But one of the first things she did
was to call on Nixon to resign. She's like, you
(10:49):
were involved in Watergate, you need to step down. And
all Nixon did was turn the heat up on the
smear campaign against her.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean she seemed like a like a very
like she may have been into gossip, but she seemed
like a very principled conservative because she, you know, she
didn't like this dirty business from Nixon.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, that was huge. She was also a very loyal
spouse to the end. She refused to believe that her
husband had you know, dreamed this up and that he
essentially was dragged into it and had been led astray
into dirty politics, like you said, so much so that
she testified on his behalf at his federal trial. And
yet he still was like, thanks a lot, Martha, see you,
(11:29):
I'm walking out on you. And if you weren't like, wow,
this guy's a real jerk already. He gave a quote
to the press after he was sentenced to seventeen or
eighteen months in prison, and he said, hey, it could
have been worse. They could have sentenced me to the
rest of my life with Martha. Oh god, can you imagine.
And she's this lady's alive to hear this, so hear
(11:52):
her husband say this about her after being that loyal
to him, you know, And mistaking who he was for
so long.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, let's just go ahead and call him a real scumbag. Yeah,
let's I feel good about that. So Martha, like you said,
her husband served nineteen months in prison after walking out
on Martha and their daughter in nineteen seventy three, and
later on Martha this gas slighting would actually become a
(12:19):
term the Martha Mitchell effect because of what happened to her,
which is a misinterpretation of a person's justified belief as
a delusion. Very sadly, she died of cancer in nineteen
seventy six, just a couple of years after Nixon left office,
And yeah, and Julia Roberts made a TV show about her,
(12:42):
so at least her her story got out there in
a pretty major way, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, And a few years after Nixon resigned, he gave
an interview and he tried to drag her through the
mud a little more, but ultimately he showed his hand
and he kind of paid backhanded tribute to her by saying,
if it hadn't been for Martha, there never would have
been in a watergate, like he never would have been
caught because they could have just kept denying, denying, denying.
If you do that enough, you can get away with anything.
(13:08):
And that was Nixon's plan, and Martha under undermine that
big time.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
We couldn't keep her sedated forever.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Wait to go? Man, who can you? Who can't you?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Do? Well? Anybody very good?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
All right? Well check saying that, And I don't know
what to say, so short. Stuff's that?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
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Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh and
there's Chuck and it's just us and that's okay because
we're doing short stuff. So let's get started. Everybody, calm down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It's short stuff, that's right. We're going to talk about
Martha Mitchell, who was the wife of John Mitchell in
the nineteen seventies, who was Nixon's attorney general for a time.
And Martha Mitchell was from the South. She was a
Some argue that she was one of the first sort
of conservative political pundits because she loved to go on TV,
(00:36):
not like a lot of politicians' spouses at the time
that kept a lower profile. She loved to be on
TV and talk about things, and she loved to call
in to journalists, maybe have a couple of bourbons and
callin to journalists and give quotes. And you think, like,
oh boy, this sounds like trouble. Eventually it could have been.
But they loved her. Nixon loved her because she went
(00:58):
out there and said the things but not a lot
of people were saying in public at the time that
he loved.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I saw that she was known as the mouth
of the South. She was from Arkansas, and one of
her quotes was, I don't believe in that no comment business.
I always have a comment. That was basically her guiding
ethos her athis one of the two. And she was
huge at the time, Like she wasn't just like a, hey,
(01:24):
I really like what you have to say to the papers,
way to go. When you ran into her at lunch,
like in nineteen seventy during the election, if you went
to a Republican fundraiser, there was a really good chance
that she would be speaking there. Like you said, people
loved her, and including Richard Nixon, who was just a
fan essentially.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, for sure. In June of nineteen seventy two, the
Watergate building was burgled, as everyone knows, and Nixon and
his inner circle were like, we didn't have anything to
do with this. I don't know what you guys are
talking about. And then one of them said, hold on
a minute, there's something that Martha knows about this that
(02:05):
could spell trouble for us. And this is that story,
because it gets pretty crazy, so crazy that there was
a series in twenty twenty two. Was it a series
or show? I think it's a series called gas Lit
starring Julia Roberts as Martha Mitchell Mitchell and a very
(02:26):
heavily makeuped and balded and changed Sean Penn as John Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, although Sean Penn has done so many eight balls,
it's possible he just looks like that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now. Oh no, Sean Pimsill looks good. This guy he
looked like John Mitchell, which is to say, old and
bald and little tubby.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And well so, just as a spoiler, John Mitchell eventually
went to prison. He's the first and only US Attorney
general to go serve time in federal prison. That's how
badly this went for him. But at the time after
the Watergate break in, when the Knicks campaign, because he
stopped being Attorney General for Nixon and became the head
(03:04):
of Nixon's re election campaign, he ran the committee to
re elect the president the CRP. Everyone else on the
planet called it creep instead, and so he was running that.
So at the time, right after the Watergate break in,
when they were still denying, denying, denying, you can't prove anything,
(03:25):
and he realized that his wife would definitely call the
press if she got the chance. He hatched a plan
to keep her from doing that and like you said,
it takes a crazy turn, and it's about here where
it does. Because he and Martha, John and Martha were
had a fundraiser in California at the time with Governor
(03:48):
Ronald Reagan and John Wayne and.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They were.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
That's when the news of Watergate broke. Essentially, so John
Mitchell flew back to DC, but he said, Martha stays here,
and then he talked to some other guys and he said, essentially,
make sure Martha stays here, keep her away from the newspaper,
and do not let her call anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's right. And the big, big reason that they were
worried about her was not just because she liked to
talk to the press, but it was because one of
the people caught in the Watergate burglary and arrested was
a guy named James McCord. He was a security director
for the reelection committee for Nixon and had a very
close tie to that family because when her husband quit
(04:33):
the Attorney general position to become head of that committee
for reelection, she lost Secret Service protection and he got
none other than James McCord to be her private personal bodyguard.
So if you can add one and two together, as
Martha Mitchell. You would know if you knew James McCord
was caught breaking into the Watergate that it probably had
(04:56):
something to do with a Nixon campaign.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, so I say we take a break, come back
and talk about Martha Mitchell's ordeal.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You should know why.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
We should know knows, but.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Talk Josh Clark.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, Chuck. So Martha Mitchell is being held in a
hotel in luxury. Of course this isn't you know, She's
not like in some Rundown hotel. This is a nice hotel.
I'm presuming. I don't know why that matters. It does
a little bit, but it's unnecessary to say.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, they didn't take her to like an abandoned warehouse
and retired to a chair.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Great. Great, thank you for saving me. And apparently for
a little while they were able to keep her away
from the news. I mean, this is a time when
there was no such thing as twenty four hour news networks,
and you had to physically get your hands on a
newspaper to read the news a lot of times. But
eventually she did get a newspaper, and she did read
about the Watergate break in, and she did read that
(06:17):
James McCord, her former bodyguard, was one of the people arrested,
and she did put two and two together and say,
I can't believe this, but my husband and probably Richard
Nixon directed the Watergate break in who can I call?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's right. She was pretty mad about the fact that
she was being kept in the dark, obviously very frustrated.
Just watched that trailer at least with Julia Roberts and
it got kind of hairy in there. So she starts
fuming a little bit and causing a bit of a commotion.
I'm not sure if it happened exactly this way, but
(06:54):
in the TV show, she called from a bathroom phone
like hotels have bathroom phone times right there by the toilet,
and one of these guys, you know, quote unquote safeguarding
her was an ex FBI agent named Steve King, burst
into the bathroom, ripped the phone out of the wall.
She was talking to Helen Thomas of UPI, one of
(07:14):
her favorite reporters that she liked to talk to, and
Helen Thomas, here's the line, go dead, tries to get
back in touch and then eventually calls John, the husband
who said that little sweetheart I love her so much.
She gets a little upset about politics, but she loves
me and I love her, and that's what counts. When
all along what had happened is that Martha was physically
(07:37):
tackled and injected with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, by a doctor, but still she's being held down
and sedated against her will, which is nuts. Again under
the direction her husband. Yeah, I mean, it's better than
some FBI agent doing it, but sure, a.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Little, I guess so.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I do have a huge criticism of this operation, though, Chuck.
I don't condone what they did to her. But if
they were going to do it, there was a huge
step that they missed, which is rent a second hotel
room and get rid of all of the phones in
the hotel room that Martha Mitchell's being kept in, and
if John Mitchell wanted to get in touch with her,
(08:19):
he could call the other hotel room and then they
could relay whatever message they needed. That was just bush league,
amateur stuff leaving any phone in there. If one of
the directives was to keep her away from the phone.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, And when they checked in, when they said, well
would you like the paper slit under your door every morning, sir,
and they're like, oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right, that sounds great. Is it free? Because I don't
want to pay for it, but if it's free, definitely,
can we get two?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh boy? Yeah, they didn't do it right Martha. And
we should say we're kind of joking here, because Martha
was not injured or anything like that, but she was
held against her will, essentially kidnapped, held against her will,
and then gaslet like nobody's ever been gas lit before.
Because she eventually was set free, she went right to
(09:08):
the press and said, you know, I was detained, I
was forced into sedation. And the New York Times ran
it on page twenty five, and the Nixon administration painted
her as a kind of a crazy lady with a
drinking problem.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I mean very much so. As a matter of fact,
they their smear campaign was so far reaching that when
John Mitchell resigned from being the head of Nixon's re
election committee, he said that he needed to spend or
wanted to spend more time with his wife and daughter.
The Nixon campaign leaked to the press that the real
(09:44):
reason he left was because Martha had a drinking problem.
It was unstable and needed basically constant attention from her husband, Yeah,
which just supported the whole idea that she was just
off her rocker talking about being held against her will
and sedated. What is this lady even saying?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And like who would do that? What kind of administration
would do that?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, what kind of husband would do that too? You know?
And I saw that the stuff, the articles that they
did run were run in the women's pages. I made
scare quotes, but that's what they were at the time,
like women's interest stuff. And the way that they ran
it was essentially not like can you believe what happened
to this woman? It's hey, get a load of this.
These two are a famous married couple, and there's trouble in.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Paradise, right, like gossip.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, So this poor lady got dragged through the mud.
And we know for a fact that this actually happened
because later on James McCord, her former bodyguard who was
involved in the Watergate breaking, he confirmed it. He said,
this absolutely happened to her in nineteen seventy five. He
confirmed it. But one of the first things she did
was to call on Nixon to resign. She's like, you
(10:49):
were involved in Watergate, you need to step down. And
all Nixon did was turn the heat up on the
smear campaign against her.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I mean she seemed like a like a very
like she may have been into gossip, but she seemed
like a very principled conservative because she, you know, she
didn't like this dirty business from Nixon.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, that was huge. She was also a very loyal
spouse to the end. She refused to believe that her
husband had you know, dreamed this up and that he
essentially was dragged into it and had been led astray
into dirty politics, like you said, so much so that
she testified on his behalf at his federal trial. And
yet he still was like, thanks a lot, Martha, see you,
(11:29):
I'm walking out on you. And if you weren't like, wow,
this guy's a real jerk already. He gave a quote
to the press after he was sentenced to seventeen or
eighteen months in prison, and he said, hey, it could
have been worse. They could have sentenced me to the
rest of my life with Martha. Oh god, can you imagine.
And she's this lady's alive to hear this, so hear
(11:52):
her husband say this about her after being that loyal
to him, you know, And mistaking who he was for
so long.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, let's just go ahead and call him a real scumbag. Yeah,
let's I feel good about that. So Martha, like you said,
her husband served nineteen months in prison after walking out
on Martha and their daughter in nineteen seventy three, and
later on Martha this gas slighting would actually become a
(12:19):
term the Martha Mitchell effect because of what happened to her,
which is a misinterpretation of a person's justified belief as
a delusion. Very sadly, she died of cancer in nineteen
seventy six, just a couple of years after Nixon left office,
And yeah, and Julia Roberts made a TV show about her,
(12:42):
so at least her her story got out there in
a pretty major way, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, And a few years after Nixon resigned, he gave
an interview and he tried to drag her through the
mud a little more, but ultimately he showed his hand
and he kind of paid backhanded tribute to her by saying,
if it hadn't been for Martha, there never would have
been in a watergate, like he never would have been
caught because they could have just kept denying, denying, denying.
If you do that enough, you can get away with anything.
(13:08):
And that was Nixon's plan, and Martha under undermine that
big time.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
We couldn't keep her sedated forever.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Wait to go? Man, who can you? Who can't you?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Do? Well? Anybody very good?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
All right? Well check saying that, And I don't know
what to say, so short. Stuff's that?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
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Welcome to "Decisions, Decisions," the podcast where boundaries are pushed, and conversations get candid! Join your favorite hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, as they dive deep into the world of non-traditional relationships and explore the often-taboo topics surrounding dating, sex, and love. Every Monday, Mandii and Weezy invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms. With a blend of humor, vulnerability, and authenticity, they share their personal journeys navigating their 30s, tackling the complexities of modern relationships, and engaging in thought-provoking discussions that challenge societal expectations. From groundbreaking interviews with diverse guests to relatable stories that resonate with your experiences, "Decisions, Decisions" is your go-to source for open dialogue about what it truly means to love and connect in today's world. Get ready to reshape your understanding of relationships and embrace the freedom of authentic connections—tune in and join the conversation!