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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, I'm welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and
there's Chuck and Jerry's here too.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Get ready for a contentious Short Stuff episode.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I don't think it's gonna be contentious because I think
it's just right. And I think that once you've learned this,
you actually feel like if it was contentious to you before,
you might feel like a bit of jackass. I know
I did.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, I'm gonna have some things to say.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, let's get into it, okay. You know, Chuck, when
you see a sign you're cruising it on the highway.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, baby, you got the wind, Yeah, got windows down,
you got bugs on your teeth, yeah, yeah, the whole shebang, right,
And then all of a sudden there's a sign up
ahead that says the lane you're in right now, buddy,
is going to be closing in about a thousand or
so feet.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That's verbatim, by the way.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, you jam on the brakes and you get over.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah as fast as you can, probably knock another car
out of the lane next to you as you get
into it. But right after you get it, you come
to almost a complete stop because everyone in the lane
you were just in did the same thing. And by
merging suddenly with another lane, it basically brings traffic to
a halt, and it actually is a fairly dangerous thing
to do, especially at higher speeds. Yeah, there's another way. Well,
(01:19):
as you put this one together and you said, there
are two ways. That first way, which you just mentioned
just getting right over. The second way, which is to
wait until that lane basically runs out and then hop over.
Now there is a third way, which is.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Just drive until you see someone sitting on their phone,
leaving a seven car gap between them, and then you
just pop over there. Yes, and it's a joke, but
it's really not.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
No, because the people who stay in that lane that's
being shut down and are able to get way far
ahead of everybody else in the lane that's the through
lane that's not being shut down that everybody had to
get over into, they're not actually jerks. They Okay, they
may be jerks because they might not actually know this
is the thing you're supposed to do, but they're actually
(02:09):
know it or not doing the thing you're supposed to do.
It's called zipper merging, and you're supposed to essentially stay
in that lane that's getting shut down until the last
possible moment. You're not supposed to get over before then,
because when you do, all sorts of bad things happen.
You just stay in that lane and somebody in the
next lane lets you in and you just zoom on through.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
All right. So here's my first problem with that is
what happens is you get to the end of that
thing and it's called an alternate merge, which means you
alternate and everyone goes, you go, I go, I go.
That's not what happens in today's America, though. People are jerks,
and they they hug the mumper in front of them
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and say, you're not getting in front of me. And
that's what comes up the works is people wait till
the last minute and then get into a battle of
wills because people don't take turns. If people took turns,
this would be as beautiful as the Germans call it
rice ver Schluz, which means zipper, the rice ver Schluze system,
the Zipper merge. It is beautiful and elegant, except for
(03:14):
the fact that Americans are jerks in their cars and
don't let people in and don't take turns.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Kind of I mean, I know what you mean, but
I don't fully agree with it, I guess is what
I was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That people do that.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No, no, no, I think they definitely do do that, but
that's not the thing that holds everything up. Let's let's
take a break and we'll come back and I will
explain my position.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Okay, all right, Well, now we're on the road, driving
in your truck.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Want to learn a thing or two from Josh Chuck.
It's stuff you should know, all right, all right, explain away, buddy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Okay, I'm explaining. Get this. Yes, that causes a slowdown
for the people in the right lane, the lane that's
being shut down, But that is generally insignificant for that
person because that one jerk who's hugging the bumper of
the person in front of and won't let them in
purposely won't let them in. There's maybe three or four
of those people in a row before somebody, like you said,
(04:37):
is either not paying attention or is kind harder enough
to be like, all right, go ahead, get in, all right. So, yes,
it's a bit of a slowdown for the people in
the shutdown lane.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What not like it would be if everyone just tried
to jump over. Yes, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, that's the problem. That's the slowdown. The people who
are getting over from the lane that's being shut down. Prima.
Surely when you get over at any point before the
last possible point to get over, if you get over
at any point before then, you are shooting yourself in
the foot and everybody else because you you are causing
(05:14):
the slow down. You are the reason that this lane
is suddenly bumpered a bumper because now we lane and
have gotten the through lane that everybody in the closed
down lane had to get into. You're the reason that
that slowed down and that that's bumper a bumper, and
that people are kicked off because an unfair advantage has
this been created for the people who are doing what
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you're supposed to do and staying in the closing lane
until the last possible minute.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
In zipper merging, all right, let me ask you this,
is there any data on because there is some data
that you found that says if you zipper merge effectively,
which never happens, but let's just say it does, it
cuts congestion by.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Fort get's huge.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's huge.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Uh, it is gonna reduce crashes because people are getting
I have an issue with this one. People are getting
over at the same rate of speed as the people
in the through lane. But I generally think this happens
when traffic is pretty slow, so it's not like you
usually don't see a zipper merge happening when people are
going like seventy miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, some people really haul and then zip into like
a spot all of a sudden, and they have to
basically slam on their brakes because they just move through
a quick movement over that's forced by the fact that
people in the through lane aren't zipper merging they got
over too early.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, my question though, is if you're in the end
you may not know this, but if you're in the
through lane, I probably do and people are are. Are
you see them zippering over and non zippering over? Like
should you get over one lane to the left or
does that come up the works? Or should you hold
the lane?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Uh? I don't understand fully, say say it again. So
you're in there, you're driving along the lane that's not
being shut down.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, yeah, and people to your right are either jumping
over right in front of you or zipper merging correctly. Like,
should you jump over a lane just to sort of decongest.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, that's one thing that you can do.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But I try to do that because I just don't
want to be I don't want to be a part
of that whole scene.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah. Well, not only that, by getting over as far
as you can away from this terrible miss zipped merge,
you're actually saving yourself a lot of time at heartache.
You're just getting away from the whole ugly mass. Right, Yes,
that's one thing you can do. You can either slow
your roll a little bit to let somebody zipper merge
in front of you, or you can move over to
create space for them to get into at that zipper
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merge point. Either one is totally acceptable and a nice
good thing to do. So yeah, sure I did know
the answer to your question. Okay, good to know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Here's my deal is. I used to get over early,
but I wouldn't like stop the traffic in that merging
lane to do it. I would just see an opening
and do it. And if it was early, it's early.
Now I kind of like, there's so many people on
their phones now. Now I tend to wait to the
end because you can generally get over. Yeah, for sure
(08:12):
without causing any issue. My big problem is not when
it's like a legitimate sort of alternate merge and a
lane merging. My problem, and it's when the person is like, hey,
you know the highway splits. If you want to go
on this highway, you're going that way, and you've got
a bunch of people waiting because traffic's backed up, and
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someone just rides to there's basically no road and tries
to jump over, which is not the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So if you have a lane that runs out right
in a lane, I'm not talking about a lane running
out then yeah, you're talking about for sure. Okay, for
sure they're being pushy, and we should explain to some
of our listeners and who aren't in the United States,
because I don't know that this fully applies. I know
in Germany it sounds like people are ziper merging like
there's no tomorrow and they're doing really right. But the
(09:01):
reason people get over prematurely rather than zipper merge on
American highways is because that seems like the fairest thing
to do. And so if you're doing that, if you're
not taking your rightful place in the back of the
line of this long, unnecessarily slow line of traffic. What
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you're doing is jumping in line. And there are very
few things that drive Americans crazier, especially once you have
a finely tuned sense of day to day justice. Right,
somebody jumping ahead in line, cutting in line. So even
though you're zipper merging correctly, you're going into last minute
and getting over, you're not trying to jump in line.
(09:43):
It's just no one else knows what you know. There's
a real danger that somebody might try to shoot you.
In the United States is very very slim. The incidents
of road radge that result in like gunplay are really
hype and talked about in the United States, but statistically speaking,
it's really rare. But there's a real chance that you
(10:07):
might anger somebody by being so unfair by cutting in line,
that they might chase you in their car and shoot
at you while you're driving your car. This is another
reason why people don't do this.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I mean, beyond that rarity, it is just out
of hand in the United States, where like if you
accidentally cut someone off on the highway, like people in
the United States will get out of that lane, speed up,
get in front of you, and slam on the brakes
to pay you back and potentially wreck themselves. It's nuts
(10:41):
how people act in their cars. It's so out of
hand and like God, everybody just needs to get it together.
Australia is at my experience driving there, they drove the
speed limit. If you came up behind someone on the highway,
they're like, ah, let's get over out of your way.
Then it was everyone that's more New Zealand, but everybody
(11:02):
was just so civil on the roads. And you know,
we might have Assie's right in and say like that's
not the deal mate in the cities or whatever. But
when I was driving around the highways over there, I
just found everything from moving about in the airport on
foot to driving around people were generally just like, no,
go ahead, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Canada is very similar to that, nice nicer people. So yeah,
it's almost like Americans are like deeply angry and divided
for some reason. It's a.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Lot of states, though, as you found, have put a
lot of money into educational campaigns. Signage, for instance, use
both lanes to merge point, like until you get to
the merge point. Stuff like that, Like they're trying to
get the word out by spending money and saying, hey,
the zipper merge is where it's at if you're doing
(11:55):
it right. But it's just there's so much, like you
point out, there's so much sort of habit and muscle
memory and how people drive and not wanting to risk
getting flicked off or whatever. And by the way, don't
shoot birds in your carry there. That's that's two eighties, like,
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, And if someone tries to pass you at like
a normal rate because you're going slower than they are
in the lane that you shouldn't be in, don't speed
up so they can't pass you. That makes you literally
the worst person on the road in your area. Like
you're a terrible person right then you might not be
in general. The car brings terrible things out and people,
I get that, but in that moment, you're a terrible person,
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a jerk.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And get out of the left lane for goodness.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Sake for sure. So some states actually have instituted zipper
merging as a rule. In Illinois, if you keep somebody
from merging over into a through lane from a lane
that's shut down or that's ending, you could be fined.
You could be pulled over and they could smack the
back of your calves with their nightsticks just for doing that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
In Illinois, because there's always a police cruis are there
when you need them in traffic.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Right exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Like when you're going seventy five miles an hour down
the highway and you look over and you pass someone
that is literally staring in their lap at on a
cell phone going like forty seven miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I know, and I'm sure we sound old, but listen up,
everybody who drives looking at their phone, like watching video
on their phone. Stop doing that. Please stop doing that immediately.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yep. There is one other thing about this though. States
have found that if you put up an extra sign
or two that says literally use both lanes to merge point,
most people will figure out what you're saying and they
actually like huh, they actually do the zipper merging.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, Hey, I'm down. I mean, Luckily, I don't have
to drive on the highway very much because my you know,
even when we were commuting to the studio a lot,
it was just back road. So since we moved out
a bucket, I don't have to get in Atlanta highway
trap much. But you know I'm gonna I'm gonna zipper
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merge from here on out.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Me too, buddy. And we should also say, I don't
know if we said the reason why they call it
zipper merges. If you look overhead at that merge point,
it looks like the cars are zipping up, and one
of the orange construction cones looks like the tip of
a penis caught in the zipper.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Is that short?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Stuff out?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
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