April 25, 2013 • 26 mins
What is it that makes us suddenly draw in a deep breath through a wide-open mouth? The beautiful thing about yawning is that researchers really don't know. Whether the answer is physical, mental or even contagious there is pretty much no chance you won't yawn during this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff
Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. You're getting comfy. Yeah, okay,
well you put the two of us together and this
is stuff you should know the podcast. Frank was squeaking.
(00:22):
I thought I was in Frank. How was that, Frank? Yeah?
I was sorry, I'm in Francine. Okay, sorry Francine, she squeaking.
You are in, Frank? Who are you? Let's build a chair? Uh?
People have never heard this from like, what are they
talking about? They've already turned off. We name our chairs people?
Then everyone he named cars, boats, and chairs. Yeah, a
(00:44):
surprising amount of people named chairs. If you don't, you
should be paranoid because people are talking about you. It's right,
um Chuck, Yes, have you ever oscentated? I have. I've
even uh pendiculated? Do you pendiculated before? I pendiculate every morning?
You know what we we sound like? Um? People running
(01:06):
for the Senate in nineteen fifties Florida. Yeah, there's like.
Florida has a rich history of um like people running
for political office using technical terms for things that sound
way worse than they are to like smear their opponents. Yeah,
there's this one guy who went and I can thank
Uncle John and his bathroom readers um who went after
(01:27):
his opponent and said that his sister was a thespian
in New York and like all these people are like
boo boo, and apparently like the smear campaign was successful.
That wasn't the only one, but this guy used that
couple of couple of technical terms. We should probably tell
people what we're talking about, right, because you said you
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pendiculate every morning easily every morning, and that is a
what that is a yawn and a stretch combined together,
and as one of my favorite things to do in
the morning, it is Did you did you see that
painting of the It was a self portrait, the artist's
self portrait. It sounded like it was from like the
six or seventeenth century of him pendiculating. It's just as
(02:08):
awesome oil painting of this, you know, Renaissance man stretching
and yawning. Yeah. I love it because it feels good
and it uh, it ties me to my pets, you know,
because like I see them do it, they see me
do it, and I'm kind of like, hey, we all eat,
we all pee and poop, and we all pendiculate. My
(02:29):
little cattle stretching yawn. My dogs will stretching yawn, and
I will stretching you. So do you guys make one
another stretching you on? You know, I'm gonna start looking
out for that because I have not noticed that. But
apparently yawning can be contagious to animals, right, Yeah, there's
a fun little game you can dogs, dogs, supposedly chimps
for sure, but probably not cats. I don't know. Yeah,
(02:50):
just because it's not in here, it doesn't mean it's
not true. Um, there's a fun little game you can
play the next time you're hanging out with people if
you feel like manipulating them biological level. Um, just yawn
and just start paying attention to how many people yawn
as a result, and it should start some sort of
chain reaction among maybe of the people, because that's the
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that's the statistic of how many human adults yawn in
reaction to seeing somebody on seeing video of somebody yawn,
hearing about somebody yawning, reading about yawning, Like, how many
times did you yawn while you read this article? A bunch,
and people will probably yawn while listening to this. Supposedly
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it's pretty much impossible not to. Yeah, do you ever?
Just just really shows how deeply disturbed I am. I
will not I will suppress or cover up a yawn
if someone else has made me on sometimes just so
I don't give them the satisfaction. Oh yeah, I've done
that before. Sometimes he was like, no, I'm not like
just some stranger on elevator. They'll yawn and I'll just
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be like, Nope, not me, buddy, one of those people
who don't realize that, like they're they're just your mortal
and me for no real good reason, when in fact
they really don't even know exists. They're like some guys
on the elevator. Right, So yawning is involuntary um, And
I've seen a range of of weeks that a fetus
has been observed yawning from eleven to twenty and uh,
(04:18):
that sort of disproves one of the well many things
disproves one of the theories, which is that we yawned
to oxygenate ourselves. Yeah, because a lot of people think
that fetus is um breathe amniotic fluid in the womb,
and that is absolutely not true that through the umbilical cord. Yeah,
so they're not clearly not yawning to oxygenate themselves, right,
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And we'll debunk that with other things in a minute. Sure, Um,
but that's still it is a little bit of a
mystery though, Like, yeah, the other the other ideas for
why we yawned don't really hold up in the fetus either.
It feels like that's where the key to the mystery
of yawning is going to be found in. All right,
should we go there over some theories and well, hold on, first,
(05:00):
you were saying it's involuntary. I found this one thing, chuck,
that there's a type of paralysis like a lesion on
the brain where you can still if you yawn, you
still pendiculate. So like your paralyzed arm, if you yawn
deep enough, will will raise, will rise. Yeah. Wow, pretty weird. Huh. Yeah,
(05:20):
There's only been a few cases of it over like
the last hundred and fifty years, but it's been documented
in a number of different places. Yeah, I'll say that
is such a surprise. Yeah, seriously, they're like, can I
be tired more often? Um? So when you yawn, just
physiologically speaking, you're gonna open your mouth, You're going to
suck in air into your lungs. I read one place
(05:43):
that you your eyes usually close. They did this big
study and found that most time your eyes closed. But
I don't think it's like all the time. You know
that's sneezing you're thinking of. No, they did a study
on on the eyes of the honor. Well, that's part
of the yawn too, as far as queues go, Like,
it's not just the mouth opening your eyes quint Yeah,
(06:04):
And I found like the really good deep yawn, UM,
my eyes will generally close. So you're gonna flex your
your abs. It's good workout. It's gonna put your diet
for RAM down. You're gonna still your lungs with air
and then exhale, and that is a yawn stretch. You're pendiculating. UM. Also,
parts of your brain become active, right, UM. Basically what
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happens when all of this, when you go through all
this process, a bunch of neurotransmitters and dopamine are activated.
And that is why a guy named Robert Provine thinks, well,
he says that UM yawns are basically a part of
a change from one state of arousal to another. Yeah,
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like I was asleep, now I'm awake, or I was
alert now on board, or I was like just ho hum,
and now I'm like in the mood because there you
can yawn when you're sexually aroused. Mood, the mood, the mood,
the Glenn Miller mood. That's that they had to call
it back then, and that's what we have to call
(07:10):
it today on this family friendly podcast. Um, what's going
on to is physiologically speaking, is we are distributing, um,
something called the surfactant, which sounds gross and it kind
of is. It's a wedding agent, uh, to cote al
veoli in the lungs. Um. But are they saying that's
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what happens or that's why it happens, that's what happens. Okay,
they're not saying the reason is to cote the alboli
with surfactant, Right, it could be. I mean, for all
we know, know that we still have no idea of
what function yawning provides. Same with the the yawning as
a symbol of arousal or is a sign of arousal,
They think that it's really just a byproduct of it,
(07:52):
you know. Okay, but it explains why people who are
nervous or dogs. I'm sure you've seen dogs who are
nervous and they yawn in like that really kind of weird,
unsettling way when they're super worked up. Yeah. Yeah, and
humans too, you know, like people will yawn when they're nervous.
It's it's it's it's a sign that you're in a
state of arousal. And what that state of arousal is
(08:14):
depends on the situation. Yeah. They point to Olympians who
yawned before like a race and um, which Poopoo's one
theory that we're gonna get to theory. Should we just
get to the theories, Let's get to the theory. Pop.
Is that theory though, that you have to be bored
or you have to be sleepy retired? Yeah, like that.
There's the boredom theory, and it's kind of been pretty
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fully shot down just by you know, just casual observation.
There's also the physiological theory, which is that this is
the one that I've always heard when I was younger,
like why are you yawn Is because you need to
your oxygen deprived or you have an abundance of carbon dioxide.
So you're drawn in a bunch of oxygen and like
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putting out a bunch of carbon dioxide. That's why you're
yawn and provine or provine that you mentioned. Yeah, he
tested this one right, Yeah, pretty simply. He just said, okay, well, um,
let's just give some athletes a bunch of oxygen and
see if they um, if they breathe, if they yawn
any less, And they didn't. He also um increased the
(09:18):
carbon dioxide in the ambient air and people still kept yawning. Okay,
so that one's gone where they didn't yawn anymore. Yeah,
so you can put that to bed. Yeah. Plus also
there was a terrible um hy proof associated with that
hypothesis that that explains why people yawning groups, because when
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you have a big group, more carbon dioxide and less oxygen,
and that's like you're all fighting over the oxygen, so
you're they're yawning. Yeah, whoever can yawn the deepest lives?
That don't sound right. Evolution um could play a part.
Some people think that maybe we used to yawn. Took
took with yawn to bare his teeth to intimidate folks
(09:59):
around him. Um, or that it developed as a signal took.
Took would give a signal to his mates that hey,
we gotta we're hunting now and we need to go now.
Gather would so I will yawn to tell you that
like pre speech, right, Yeah, like a bird turning off
the whole flock. Yeah, that makes a little bit of sense.
(10:21):
But I still don't believe that one. I'm with the
brain cooling theory that's like the most recent one. Yeah,
and it seems to be the one that people are
subscribing to. Yeah. Scientists generally are leaning toward the fact that, um,
when our brains are warmer, yawning might cool it down.
In A cool brain is a more whatever, a better brain.
(10:42):
I guess I should say I just better for thinking
I just yawned. Did you okay? I didn't see it. Well,
I covered my mouth. You might have thought I was purpening.
I think I did. Um. So, the brain cooling theory,
that's the one that most people think is lately, that's
the that's the explanation to your yeah. Um, And there's
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another piece of research that people are going into that
um is the idea that contagious yawning is the result
of empathy. Right that you that you empathize. The more
you empathize with other people, the more susceptible you are
to contagious yawning. And we said earlier that like I
think of human adults, um are susceptible to contagious yawning, right,
(11:30):
which the MythBusters confirmed by the way. Okay, so there
is some sort of link between what we perceive as
empathy and the susceptibility to yawning. When you see somebody
else yawning or reading about yawning or whatever, I wonder
if it's like a boy, that guy's tired and just
let me make him feel better. Well, the pro vine again,
he's like really into yawning research. Um. He he has
(11:52):
done m r I scans where he shows I guess
pictures of people yawning or talks about yawning and you
know they yawned. Um. And when they do, he says
that mere neurons go off. Right, So are are mere
neurons are activated when you see somebody else yawned? And
apparently that triggers then. But people take it a step
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further in this quest to prove that empathy and contagious
yawning or you know, want work hand in hand and saying, well,
then people with autism that that they shouldn't be able
to be susceptible to contagious yawning because they're known to
have less empathy, right, they have trouble connecting with others
or um, they have trouble developing what's called the theory
(12:36):
of mind about other people. Um. And there have been
a lot of studies about whether or not people who
are people who have autism are contagious too susceptible the
contagious yawning, and it's it's it's been proven, not proven,
but at least the data says that the more, uh,
(13:01):
the the stronger your autism, the less you will yawn,
even though uh, they will yawn when someone is pretending
to yawn. Was that what it was? Yeah? I think
it said that, Um, when they were watching video of
people just moving their mouths, then non autistic kids yawned
more than kids with autism when it was really yawning.
(13:24):
Does that make sense? Yes, Well, hold on before we
get to that, um, because this is like a whole
thing to me, the idea that if you have autism,
you're not susceptibly continuous yawning. Let's let's first I have
a message break from our sponsor. Okay, Josh, So I
(13:47):
believe we were talking about autism and yawning, which is
I just learned a thing for you. Well, yeah, you
said that there was. They have found that if you
have been diagnosed with autism, you're less likely to be
susceptible and contagious yawning. And they found that the higher
on the autism spectrum you fall, the less lucky would
(14:08):
you would even be right, Yeah, which would suggest that
there is that link because they've tied they there's a
link between uh, empathy and an autism and empathy and
contagious yawning. So this autism and studying kids with autism
is kind of like the fulkrum. So yeah, it just
seems to me to be kind of um, I don't know,
(14:30):
I don't I don't buy all the studies that have
been carried out. Another studies kind of contradicted, like they
other studies have shown that like kids with autism focus
on people's mouths rather than their eyes. So maybe they're
missing the cue. Member. We said that your eyes scrunched
to like a yawn is not just people opening their mouths.
It has all these other facial characteristics that might trigger
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a yawn and another person. So maybe kids with autism
are simply missing that could be skewed by other factors.
It could be plus. I just remember when I wrote
this article like years back, I was kind of like, yeah,
it's just it seems just slightly off, Like, yeah, we
got a good gut though. Well thanks man, I've been
working on it so bad. Um. Well, we should also
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mention too that this goes back a long way, like
I believe, was it Hippocrates, Yeah, was the first person
to start sort of postulating ideas, and he was like, uh,
he thought it was fever related, like sickness. It could
help cure you. So I got a fever and the
only prescription is more yawning. That's why here's the father
(15:40):
of medicine. That's right, because he was the first guy
to just start saying stuff. But you know that was
pretty quickly disproving, right. But um, the idea that yawning
has something to do with UM increasing our alertness and awareness,
which is kind of one of the current views of
yawning UM that dates back to the seventeenth and eighteen centuries. Yeah,
(16:01):
well it increases your heart rate during inhalation only, um,
not during uh the I think it it It increases
and then levels off and then just drops back down
to normal pretty quickly. I got you. Yeah, but up
to like thirty beats per minute increase. Right, Yeah. I
read a real heavy article on the study that really
(16:22):
just made my eyes cross. But that was a long
and short of it, right, But that's one that dealt
with the eyes. Like they really measured all kinds of stuff.
And when we said that fetus is from eleven to
twenty weeks of development yawn in utero And did you
see any of like the four d ultrasounds. Fetus is yawning?
Is it adorable? It's pretty cute, but it's also weird
(16:44):
at the same time because they're not fully developed. It's
it's like, oh you, it's like a little baby platypus
kind of um, but you have to be around age
four before you um can Uh, you're susceptibly contagious yawning. Yeah,
it's there any way to put it besides susceptible, the
contagious yawning, I don't think so. Why do you feel
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like You've said that like a lot, and I've paid
trouble with it every time. Uh. There's another couple of
researchers who a couple of years ago, um Andrew Gallop
and Omar Tansi Elda car Uh. They found that outside
temperature could affect the amount of yawning. So if it's
warmer than usual, then you're gonna yawn less frequently because um.
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Their explanation is to outside airs useless to the organism
because it doesn't need to suck in more oxygen. I
don't get how the temperature would affect that though. Well,
if it's warmer temperature and you're using the cooler air
to cool your brain, if it's warmer than the temperature
of your brain, then it's okay, that makes sense. Yeah,
(17:48):
all right, Well they had other tests though, that's that
showed that the amount of yawning increased both when outside
temperature and the temperature of the brain increase. Yeah, so
all over the place, No, no one knows anything about
yawning except Robert Provine, the foremost leading authority. But well
he's proven that like seeing your hearing about somebody yawning,
(18:11):
it triggers your mirror neurons. So yeah, I think somebody
should do a documentary on these people that become obsessed
with yawns. No, just like a certain small thing. So
you're yawning right now? Um, and that was unsatisfying because
you made me laugh in the middle of it. I think,
like fast chief and out of control. I've talked about
(18:31):
it before. Errol Morris's documentary sort of did that, but
that was about like studying naked mole rats or lion
taming or um. It's it called when you clip the
hedges indicty gardening. But someone they should do things that
are even more like mundane, like this dude that has
dedicated as life to yawning. I just think they'd be interesting,
(18:52):
Like what drives provine? Figure this out? When it really
doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying? Well, I don't know,
because and it's not a yawning he he frequently is
cited as a yawning expert. He's an evolutionary biologist, so
like but yawning, since it's involuntary, and since you find
it in all vertebrates, it kind of gives some peek
(19:13):
into our evolutionary past. Plus he probably just loves a
good mystery. Sure. He had a great quote too. We
were talking about how arousal yawning is a is a
byproduct of a state of arousal. He was saying that
he believes that um, yawns and orgasms share a neuro
behavioral heritage. Yeah, so like they're possibly rooted in the
(19:35):
same behavior. Like remember you said it yourself, when you pendiculate,
it feels good. Same you know with the orgasm. So
I've heard those feel great, right, So possibly if you
trace the lineage of this behavior back far enough, you'd say, like, oh,
they both came from when humans used to stubb their toe.
They thought it was awesome, and then the things diverged
(19:57):
into these two things interesting, into uh, yawning and what
happens when you're in the mood, the Glenn Miller mood. Right, Ah,
you got anything else? No, man, that is yawning forever
until somebody figures it out. It's a mystery, Yeah, and
I kind of like it like that. But at the
same time, I think it's it's so amorphous that there's
(20:21):
no no one has a clue. Like sometimes we've talked
about stuff that science couldn't fully explain, but we almost
always like pick a theory like this is the one.
It just hasn't been proven yet, right, this one. I
don't feel like we did that, Like we both like
the brain cooling one, but it was kind of discarded.
And I'm definitely gonna keep an eye on my pets. Um.
(20:42):
But then I don't know if, like, can you induce
that just by noticing more, you know, you know what
I'm saying, Or maybe what I'll do is I'll watch
Emily around the pets. No one's in on it, Just
be careful you don't accidentally change their behaviors by observing
its Berg's Buckley farts every time he stretches too. And see,
(21:03):
that's what I'm saying. We'll see if Emily farts while
she fandiculates, right, that'll be the death's nice um. So okay,
I think if you guys want to learn more about yawning,
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and then we will we have a great listener mail
though about Rodriguez. So oh yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
so this is a time for message break, okay, and
now it's time for listener mail. Huh. Yes, And I
already gave it away because I wanted people to stick
around for this. And it is called I Hang Out
with Rodriguez. So we mentioned Rodriguez, the singer songwriter from
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the sixties who, unbeknownst to him, was a huge, huge
hit in South America and no, South Africa. What did
I say, South American? Such an idea South Africa and
then down there once on the left, ones on the right,
and then later in Australia and um, so we covered
(22:11):
that in our Apartheide podcast and you can see the
documentary searching for Sugarman's Super Interesting. Which one, uh best
documentary this year? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Have you seen How
to Survive a Plague? That was up for Best Picture too,
best Documentary? Yes, it was good, Yeah, it was really good.
Um it was. It's about the early gay like AIDS
(22:33):
awareness movement and like it's just what they were up against.
His mind boggling, you know, like the society was just
kind of like, no, God's punishing you. Good luck with it, pal, jeez. Yeah,
that's really something saw our friends Steward of Superhuman Happiness.
Who are they're fans of the show? He scored the soundtrack.
Oh no, he did a really good job with it,
(22:54):
So you want to check that out. Um. I saw
another trailer the other day for a document are about
this family of Jews who hid in a underground for
a year and a half during World War Two and
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(23:15):
caving guy found these human objects and traced them back
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It looks awesome. Right. Well, there you go, everybody. We
like to recommend documentaries around here. Okay, Rodriguez, guys. It's
(23:37):
so fun to hear you talk about Rodriguez because I've
known him a little bit there and there. I'm glad
he's getting recognition. And here's a story about the first
day I met him. September two thousand seven, I moved
into a one one year old apartment building in the
Cast Corridor neighborhood of Detroit. It was a bar across
the street called the Bronx, and after getting moved in,
(23:58):
my boyfriend and I went over there had a night
of celebrating and talking with some older new friends or friend.
Dale pointed out this dude wearing all black with sunglasses on, said,
you know, Rodriguez, that guy over there is bigger than
Elvis in South Africa and Australia. I didn't understand the
gravity of a statement at the time. Being friendly people,
we talked late into the night with Dale and Rodriguez
(24:18):
the bar clothes. We decided to walk back across the
street to our new apartment and Rodriguez followed us out
with his guitar and toe. It was very quiet out
about three in the morning. The apartment building was you shaped,
with a big courtyard in the middle and low lighting.
It was really beautiful. There was a single picnic table
and we sat there on it talking more and more.
Rodriguez pulled out a pint of brandy, offered us some
(24:39):
and then asked if we wanted to hear his new song,
saying he had just written it the other day. He
said sure, because he seemed so incredibly excited about it.
He played the song for us and played it again,
which I thought was interesting. He twice so did you
like that? You want to hear it again? Wait before
you answer, let me play uh, And then we talked
some more about music can love, and he played it
(25:02):
once again. I guess he played it three times. Um.
I saw many many times over the next few years
and met his middle daughter as well, the same song
every time. But I'll never forget sitting under the stair stars,
all alone with him in a majestic old Detroit courtyard
giving my boyfriend to me a private concert of a
single song that's cool, played thrice in Passing the Cheap Brandy.
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He really is. It's kind and happy of a soul.
As the movie says, when you watch Churching for sugar Man,
you can see a couple of people talking to the
bronze bar and even see my old apartment in the background.
I hope I see you guys soon. Love Julia, Well,
thanks Julia, hat tipped to you for being aware of
the word thrice and for um, I guess waiting out
(25:47):
the storm in Detroit. Yeah, and for listening to that
song three times like very patient understanding with the smile
plastered on your face the last time. Like, yeah, very
cool memory, I imagine. Yeah. Um, let's see if you
have a story about any sort of famous singer, songwriter, filmmaker.
Anybody remember the guy who hung out with Henry Hill
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Welcome to you Stuff you should Know from house Stuff
Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. You're getting comfy. Yeah, okay,
well you put the two of us together and this
is stuff you should know the podcast. Frank was squeaking.
(00:22):
I thought I was in Frank. How was that, Frank? Yeah?
I was sorry, I'm in Francine. Okay, sorry Francine, she squeaking.
You are in, Frank? Who are you? Let's build a chair? Uh?
People have never heard this from like, what are they
talking about? They've already turned off. We name our chairs people?
Then everyone he named cars, boats, and chairs. Yeah, a
(00:44):
surprising amount of people named chairs. If you don't, you
should be paranoid because people are talking about you. It's right,
um Chuck, Yes, have you ever oscentated? I have. I've
even uh pendiculated? Do you pendiculated before? I pendiculate every morning?
You know what we we sound like? Um? People running
(01:06):
for the Senate in nineteen fifties Florida. Yeah, there's like.
Florida has a rich history of um like people running
for political office using technical terms for things that sound
way worse than they are to like smear their opponents. Yeah,
there's this one guy who went and I can thank
Uncle John and his bathroom readers um who went after
(01:27):
his opponent and said that his sister was a thespian
in New York and like all these people are like
boo boo, and apparently like the smear campaign was successful.
That wasn't the only one, but this guy used that
couple of couple of technical terms. We should probably tell
people what we're talking about, right, because you said you
(01:47):
pendiculate every morning easily every morning, and that is a
what that is a yawn and a stretch combined together,
and as one of my favorite things to do in
the morning, it is Did you did you see that
painting of the It was a self portrait, the artist's
self portrait. It sounded like it was from like the
six or seventeenth century of him pendiculating. It's just as
(02:08):
awesome oil painting of this, you know, Renaissance man stretching
and yawning. Yeah. I love it because it feels good
and it uh, it ties me to my pets, you know,
because like I see them do it, they see me
do it, and I'm kind of like, hey, we all eat,
we all pee and poop, and we all pendiculate. My
(02:29):
little cattle stretching yawn. My dogs will stretching yawn, and
I will stretching you. So do you guys make one
another stretching you on? You know, I'm gonna start looking
out for that because I have not noticed that. But
apparently yawning can be contagious to animals, right, Yeah, there's
a fun little game you can dogs, dogs, supposedly chimps
for sure, but probably not cats. I don't know. Yeah,
(02:50):
just because it's not in here, it doesn't mean it's
not true. Um, there's a fun little game you can
play the next time you're hanging out with people if
you feel like manipulating them biological level. Um, just yawn
and just start paying attention to how many people yawn
as a result, and it should start some sort of
chain reaction among maybe of the people, because that's the
(03:13):
that's the statistic of how many human adults yawn in
reaction to seeing somebody on seeing video of somebody yawn,
hearing about somebody yawning, reading about yawning, Like, how many
times did you yawn while you read this article? A bunch,
and people will probably yawn while listening to this. Supposedly
(03:34):
it's pretty much impossible not to. Yeah, do you ever?
Just just really shows how deeply disturbed I am. I
will not I will suppress or cover up a yawn
if someone else has made me on sometimes just so
I don't give them the satisfaction. Oh yeah, I've done
that before. Sometimes he was like, no, I'm not like
just some stranger on elevator. They'll yawn and I'll just
(03:54):
be like, Nope, not me, buddy, one of those people
who don't realize that, like they're they're just your mortal
and me for no real good reason, when in fact
they really don't even know exists. They're like some guys
on the elevator. Right, So yawning is involuntary um, And
I've seen a range of of weeks that a fetus
has been observed yawning from eleven to twenty and uh,
(04:18):
that sort of disproves one of the well many things
disproves one of the theories, which is that we yawned
to oxygenate ourselves. Yeah, because a lot of people think
that fetus is um breathe amniotic fluid in the womb,
and that is absolutely not true that through the umbilical cord. Yeah,
so they're not clearly not yawning to oxygenate themselves, right,
(04:39):
And we'll debunk that with other things in a minute. Sure, Um,
but that's still it is a little bit of a
mystery though, Like, yeah, the other the other ideas for
why we yawned don't really hold up in the fetus either.
It feels like that's where the key to the mystery
of yawning is going to be found in. All right,
should we go there over some theories and well, hold on, first,
(05:00):
you were saying it's involuntary. I found this one thing, chuck,
that there's a type of paralysis like a lesion on
the brain where you can still if you yawn, you
still pendiculate. So like your paralyzed arm, if you yawn
deep enough, will will raise, will rise. Yeah. Wow, pretty weird. Huh. Yeah,
(05:20):
There's only been a few cases of it over like
the last hundred and fifty years, but it's been documented
in a number of different places. Yeah, I'll say that
is such a surprise. Yeah, seriously, they're like, can I
be tired more often? Um? So when you yawn, just
physiologically speaking, you're gonna open your mouth, You're going to
suck in air into your lungs. I read one place
(05:43):
that you your eyes usually close. They did this big
study and found that most time your eyes closed. But
I don't think it's like all the time. You know
that's sneezing you're thinking of. No, they did a study
on on the eyes of the honor. Well, that's part
of the yawn too, as far as queues go, Like,
it's not just the mouth opening your eyes quint Yeah,
(06:04):
And I found like the really good deep yawn, UM,
my eyes will generally close. So you're gonna flex your
your abs. It's good workout. It's gonna put your diet
for RAM down. You're gonna still your lungs with air
and then exhale, and that is a yawn stretch. You're pendiculating. UM. Also,
parts of your brain become active, right, UM. Basically what
(06:29):
happens when all of this, when you go through all
this process, a bunch of neurotransmitters and dopamine are activated.
And that is why a guy named Robert Provine thinks, well,
he says that UM yawns are basically a part of
a change from one state of arousal to another. Yeah,
(06:49):
like I was asleep, now I'm awake, or I was
alert now on board, or I was like just ho hum,
and now I'm like in the mood because there you
can yawn when you're sexually aroused. Mood, the mood, the mood,
the Glenn Miller mood. That's that they had to call
it back then, and that's what we have to call
(07:10):
it today on this family friendly podcast. Um, what's going
on to is physiologically speaking, is we are distributing, um,
something called the surfactant, which sounds gross and it kind
of is. It's a wedding agent, uh, to cote al
veoli in the lungs. Um. But are they saying that's
(07:31):
what happens or that's why it happens, that's what happens. Okay,
they're not saying the reason is to cote the alboli
with surfactant, Right, it could be. I mean, for all
we know, know that we still have no idea of
what function yawning provides. Same with the the yawning as
a symbol of arousal or is a sign of arousal,
They think that it's really just a byproduct of it,
(07:52):
you know. Okay, but it explains why people who are
nervous or dogs. I'm sure you've seen dogs who are
nervous and they yawn in like that really kind of weird,
unsettling way when they're super worked up. Yeah. Yeah, and
humans too, you know, like people will yawn when they're nervous.
It's it's it's it's a sign that you're in a
state of arousal. And what that state of arousal is
(08:14):
depends on the situation. Yeah. They point to Olympians who
yawned before like a race and um, which Poopoo's one
theory that we're gonna get to theory. Should we just
get to the theories, Let's get to the theory. Pop.
Is that theory though, that you have to be bored
or you have to be sleepy retired? Yeah, like that.
There's the boredom theory, and it's kind of been pretty
(08:35):
fully shot down just by you know, just casual observation.
There's also the physiological theory, which is that this is
the one that I've always heard when I was younger,
like why are you yawn Is because you need to
your oxygen deprived or you have an abundance of carbon dioxide.
So you're drawn in a bunch of oxygen and like
(08:56):
putting out a bunch of carbon dioxide. That's why you're
yawn and provine or provine that you mentioned. Yeah, he
tested this one right, Yeah, pretty simply. He just said, okay, well, um,
let's just give some athletes a bunch of oxygen and
see if they um, if they breathe, if they yawn
any less, And they didn't. He also um increased the
(09:18):
carbon dioxide in the ambient air and people still kept yawning. Okay,
so that one's gone where they didn't yawn anymore. Yeah,
so you can put that to bed. Yeah. Plus also
there was a terrible um hy proof associated with that
hypothesis that that explains why people yawning groups, because when
(09:38):
you have a big group, more carbon dioxide and less oxygen,
and that's like you're all fighting over the oxygen, so
you're they're yawning. Yeah, whoever can yawn the deepest lives?
That don't sound right. Evolution um could play a part.
Some people think that maybe we used to yawn. Took
took with yawn to bare his teeth to intimidate folks
(09:59):
around him. Um, or that it developed as a signal took.
Took would give a signal to his mates that hey,
we gotta we're hunting now and we need to go now.
Gather would so I will yawn to tell you that
like pre speech, right, Yeah, like a bird turning off
the whole flock. Yeah, that makes a little bit of sense.
(10:21):
But I still don't believe that one. I'm with the
brain cooling theory that's like the most recent one. Yeah,
and it seems to be the one that people are
subscribing to. Yeah. Scientists generally are leaning toward the fact that, um,
when our brains are warmer, yawning might cool it down.
In A cool brain is a more whatever, a better brain.
(10:42):
I guess I should say I just better for thinking
I just yawned. Did you okay? I didn't see it. Well,
I covered my mouth. You might have thought I was purpening.
I think I did. Um. So, the brain cooling theory,
that's the one that most people think is lately, that's
the that's the explanation to your yeah. Um, And there's
(11:03):
another piece of research that people are going into that
um is the idea that contagious yawning is the result
of empathy. Right that you that you empathize. The more
you empathize with other people, the more susceptible you are
to contagious yawning. And we said earlier that like I
think of human adults, um are susceptible to contagious yawning, right,
(11:30):
which the MythBusters confirmed by the way. Okay, so there
is some sort of link between what we perceive as
empathy and the susceptibility to yawning. When you see somebody
else yawning or reading about yawning or whatever, I wonder
if it's like a boy, that guy's tired and just
let me make him feel better. Well, the pro vine again,
he's like really into yawning research. Um. He he has
(11:52):
done m r I scans where he shows I guess
pictures of people yawning or talks about yawning and you
know they yawned. Um. And when they do, he says
that mere neurons go off. Right, So are are mere
neurons are activated when you see somebody else yawned? And
apparently that triggers then. But people take it a step
(12:14):
further in this quest to prove that empathy and contagious
yawning or you know, want work hand in hand and saying, well,
then people with autism that that they shouldn't be able
to be susceptible to contagious yawning because they're known to
have less empathy, right, they have trouble connecting with others
or um, they have trouble developing what's called the theory
(12:36):
of mind about other people. Um. And there have been
a lot of studies about whether or not people who
are people who have autism are contagious too susceptible the
contagious yawning, and it's it's it's been proven, not proven,
but at least the data says that the more, uh,
(13:01):
the the stronger your autism, the less you will yawn,
even though uh, they will yawn when someone is pretending
to yawn. Was that what it was? Yeah? I think
it said that, Um, when they were watching video of
people just moving their mouths, then non autistic kids yawned
more than kids with autism when it was really yawning.
(13:24):
Does that make sense? Yes, Well, hold on before we
get to that, um, because this is like a whole
thing to me, the idea that if you have autism,
you're not susceptibly continuous yawning. Let's let's first I have
a message break from our sponsor. Okay, Josh, So I
(13:47):
believe we were talking about autism and yawning, which is
I just learned a thing for you. Well, yeah, you
said that there was. They have found that if you
have been diagnosed with autism, you're less likely to be
susceptible and contagious yawning. And they found that the higher
on the autism spectrum you fall, the less lucky would
(14:08):
you would even be right, Yeah, which would suggest that
there is that link because they've tied they there's a
link between uh, empathy and an autism and empathy and
contagious yawning. So this autism and studying kids with autism
is kind of like the fulkrum. So yeah, it just
seems to me to be kind of um, I don't know,
(14:30):
I don't I don't buy all the studies that have
been carried out. Another studies kind of contradicted, like they
other studies have shown that like kids with autism focus
on people's mouths rather than their eyes. So maybe they're
missing the cue. Member. We said that your eyes scrunched
to like a yawn is not just people opening their mouths.
It has all these other facial characteristics that might trigger
(14:54):
a yawn and another person. So maybe kids with autism
are simply missing that could be skewed by other factors.
It could be plus. I just remember when I wrote
this article like years back, I was kind of like, yeah,
it's just it seems just slightly off, Like, yeah, we
got a good gut though. Well thanks man, I've been
working on it so bad. Um. Well, we should also
(15:19):
mention too that this goes back a long way, like
I believe, was it Hippocrates, Yeah, was the first person
to start sort of postulating ideas, and he was like, uh,
he thought it was fever related, like sickness. It could
help cure you. So I got a fever and the
only prescription is more yawning. That's why here's the father
(15:40):
of medicine. That's right, because he was the first guy
to just start saying stuff. But you know that was
pretty quickly disproving, right. But um, the idea that yawning
has something to do with UM increasing our alertness and awareness,
which is kind of one of the current views of
yawning UM that dates back to the seventeenth and eighteen centuries. Yeah,
(16:01):
well it increases your heart rate during inhalation only, um,
not during uh the I think it it It increases
and then levels off and then just drops back down
to normal pretty quickly. I got you. Yeah, but up
to like thirty beats per minute increase. Right, Yeah. I
read a real heavy article on the study that really
(16:22):
just made my eyes cross. But that was a long
and short of it, right, But that's one that dealt
with the eyes. Like they really measured all kinds of stuff.
And when we said that fetus is from eleven to
twenty weeks of development yawn in utero And did you
see any of like the four d ultrasounds. Fetus is yawning?
Is it adorable? It's pretty cute, but it's also weird
(16:44):
at the same time because they're not fully developed. It's
it's like, oh you, it's like a little baby platypus
kind of um, but you have to be around age
four before you um can Uh, you're susceptibly contagious yawning. Yeah,
it's there any way to put it besides susceptible, the
contagious yawning, I don't think so. Why do you feel
(17:05):
like You've said that like a lot, and I've paid
trouble with it every time. Uh. There's another couple of
researchers who a couple of years ago, um Andrew Gallop
and Omar Tansi Elda car Uh. They found that outside
temperature could affect the amount of yawning. So if it's
warmer than usual, then you're gonna yawn less frequently because um.
(17:28):
Their explanation is to outside airs useless to the organism
because it doesn't need to suck in more oxygen. I
don't get how the temperature would affect that though. Well,
if it's warmer temperature and you're using the cooler air
to cool your brain, if it's warmer than the temperature
of your brain, then it's okay, that makes sense. Yeah,
(17:48):
all right, Well they had other tests though, that's that
showed that the amount of yawning increased both when outside
temperature and the temperature of the brain increase. Yeah, so
all over the place, No, no one knows anything about
yawning except Robert Provine, the foremost leading authority. But well
he's proven that like seeing your hearing about somebody yawning,
(18:11):
it triggers your mirror neurons. So yeah, I think somebody
should do a documentary on these people that become obsessed
with yawns. No, just like a certain small thing. So
you're yawning right now? Um, and that was unsatisfying because
you made me laugh in the middle of it. I think,
like fast chief and out of control. I've talked about
(18:31):
it before. Errol Morris's documentary sort of did that, but
that was about like studying naked mole rats or lion
taming or um. It's it called when you clip the
hedges indicty gardening. But someone they should do things that
are even more like mundane, like this dude that has
dedicated as life to yawning. I just think they'd be interesting,
(18:52):
Like what drives provine? Figure this out? When it really
doesn't matter, you know what I'm saying? Well, I don't know,
because and it's not a yawning he he frequently is
cited as a yawning expert. He's an evolutionary biologist, so
like but yawning, since it's involuntary, and since you find
it in all vertebrates, it kind of gives some peek
(19:13):
into our evolutionary past. Plus he probably just loves a
good mystery. Sure. He had a great quote too. We
were talking about how arousal yawning is a is a
byproduct of a state of arousal. He was saying that
he believes that um, yawns and orgasms share a neuro
behavioral heritage. Yeah, so like they're possibly rooted in the
(19:35):
same behavior. Like remember you said it yourself, when you pendiculate,
it feels good. Same you know with the orgasm. So
I've heard those feel great, right, So possibly if you
trace the lineage of this behavior back far enough, you'd say, like, oh,
they both came from when humans used to stubb their toe.
They thought it was awesome, and then the things diverged
(19:57):
into these two things interesting, into uh, yawning and what
happens when you're in the mood, the Glenn Miller mood. Right, Ah,
you got anything else? No, man, that is yawning forever
until somebody figures it out. It's a mystery, Yeah, and
I kind of like it like that. But at the
same time, I think it's it's so amorphous that there's
(20:21):
no no one has a clue. Like sometimes we've talked
about stuff that science couldn't fully explain, but we almost
always like pick a theory like this is the one.
It just hasn't been proven yet, right, this one. I
don't feel like we did that, Like we both like
the brain cooling one, but it was kind of discarded.
And I'm definitely gonna keep an eye on my pets. Um.
(20:42):
But then I don't know if, like, can you induce
that just by noticing more, you know, you know what
I'm saying, Or maybe what I'll do is I'll watch
Emily around the pets. No one's in on it, Just
be careful you don't accidentally change their behaviors by observing
its Berg's Buckley farts every time he stretches too. And see,
(21:03):
that's what I'm saying. We'll see if Emily farts while
she fandiculates, right, that'll be the death's nice um. So okay,
I think if you guys want to learn more about yawning,
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(21:25):
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though about Rodriguez. So oh yeah, yeah, okay, all right,
so this is a time for message break, okay, and
now it's time for listener mail. Huh. Yes, And I
already gave it away because I wanted people to stick
around for this. And it is called I Hang Out
with Rodriguez. So we mentioned Rodriguez, the singer songwriter from
(21:49):
the sixties who, unbeknownst to him, was a huge, huge
hit in South America and no, South Africa. What did
I say, South American? Such an idea South Africa and
then down there once on the left, ones on the right,
and then later in Australia and um, so we covered
(22:11):
that in our Apartheide podcast and you can see the
documentary searching for Sugarman's Super Interesting. Which one, uh best
documentary this year? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Have you seen How
to Survive a Plague? That was up for Best Picture too,
best Documentary? Yes, it was good, Yeah, it was really good.
Um it was. It's about the early gay like AIDS
(22:33):
awareness movement and like it's just what they were up against.
His mind boggling, you know, like the society was just
kind of like, no, God's punishing you. Good luck with it, pal, jeez. Yeah,
that's really something saw our friends Steward of Superhuman Happiness.
Who are they're fans of the show? He scored the soundtrack.
Oh no, he did a really good job with it,
(22:54):
So you want to check that out. Um. I saw
another trailer the other day for a document are about
this family of Jews who hid in a underground for
a year and a half during World War Two and
they never told their story because they didn't think anyone
believe it. In this caving cave diver not cave diver,
(23:15):
caving guy found these human objects and traced them back
to this family and they came out like the surviving ones,
like told their story of his amazing thing. It's called
No Place on Earth and uh, it's coming out soon.
It looks awesome. Right. Well, there you go, everybody. We
like to recommend documentaries around here. Okay, Rodriguez, guys. It's
(23:37):
so fun to hear you talk about Rodriguez because I've
known him a little bit there and there. I'm glad
he's getting recognition. And here's a story about the first
day I met him. September two thousand seven, I moved
into a one one year old apartment building in the
Cast Corridor neighborhood of Detroit. It was a bar across
the street called the Bronx, and after getting moved in,
(23:58):
my boyfriend and I went over there had a night
of celebrating and talking with some older new friends or friend.
Dale pointed out this dude wearing all black with sunglasses on, said,
you know, Rodriguez, that guy over there is bigger than
Elvis in South Africa and Australia. I didn't understand the
gravity of a statement at the time. Being friendly people,
we talked late into the night with Dale and Rodriguez
(24:18):
the bar clothes. We decided to walk back across the
street to our new apartment and Rodriguez followed us out
with his guitar and toe. It was very quiet out
about three in the morning. The apartment building was you shaped,
with a big courtyard in the middle and low lighting.
It was really beautiful. There was a single picnic table
and we sat there on it talking more and more.
Rodriguez pulled out a pint of brandy, offered us some
(24:39):
and then asked if we wanted to hear his new song,
saying he had just written it the other day. He
said sure, because he seemed so incredibly excited about it.
He played the song for us and played it again,
which I thought was interesting. He twice so did you
like that? You want to hear it again? Wait before
you answer, let me play uh, And then we talked
some more about music can love, and he played it
(25:02):
once again. I guess he played it three times. Um.
I saw many many times over the next few years
and met his middle daughter as well, the same song
every time. But I'll never forget sitting under the stair stars,
all alone with him in a majestic old Detroit courtyard
giving my boyfriend to me a private concert of a
single song that's cool, played thrice in Passing the Cheap Brandy.
(25:23):
He really is. It's kind and happy of a soul.
As the movie says, when you watch Churching for sugar Man,
you can see a couple of people talking to the
bronze bar and even see my old apartment in the background.
I hope I see you guys soon. Love Julia, Well,
thanks Julia, hat tipped to you for being aware of
the word thrice and for um, I guess waiting out
(25:47):
the storm in Detroit. Yeah, and for listening to that
song three times like very patient understanding with the smile
plastered on your face the last time. Like, yeah, very
cool memory, I imagine. Yeah. Um, let's see if you
have a story about any sort of famous singer, songwriter, filmmaker.
Anybody remember the guy who hung out with Henry Hill
(26:08):
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