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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, Hi, I'm Buzznight, the host of the Taking a
Walk podcast, and welcome to another Week in Music History
for the week of February the seventeenth, and we go
to the music history desk to my friend, former radio programmer,
media executive, podcaster and also music fan.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What else can I add to your vast list?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Harry Jacobs, dog Dad, And I suspect he's hungry right now.
I've been hearing a little bit from him, so we
may get interrupted at some point, but yeah, dog Dad,
you can add that to the list.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That would be nice.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You might hear my two delinquents, possibly because there shockingly
might be another Amazon delivery today, which never happens around here.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
How many Amazon deliveries do you think that you get
a week at your house, not just.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
For you, for you and your wife.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It is about fourteen fourteen that come here to the house,
and then there's another five or six where I go
to one of those lockers where I'm dispatched.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you really have that many? No, I'm just exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I was gonna say, we got to have another podcast
about Amazon problems.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This is called like writer's embellishment.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, but anyway, let's go to the week of February
seventeenth and see what was going on that week, Harry.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And in seventy two, this is a great week for music.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Pink Floyd actually did their first performance of Dark Side
of the Moon in in Total Like the Rainbow in London,
and we started talking about Dark Side.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know, in a couple of recent episodes, there were some.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
News that you know that had come up, the you know,
the recording, the you know, all kinds of different things,
and I put I put it on a playlist and
I have been listening to it pretty religiously in the
car and at home at night with you know, the
the AirPods on to just hear it in a completely
differfferent way. Now, for some reason, it's one of those
(02:03):
things that no matter how many times I listened to it,
I always seem to hear a little something different, a
little something else.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But it's a just so epic. Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And a quiz for you, what's the song off of
Dark Side of the Moon that has that incredible saxophone solo?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Is a great gig in the sky. I believe that's correct, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, A great gig in the guy, what a haunting
song that is. I mean, it's just think about it,
just the the screams through that, you know, when you
look at you know, at the thing that never really happened.
That when when they talk about dark Side scoring Wizard
(02:48):
of Oz, our friend George Taylor Morris again we tipped
the hat to him. When you watch dark Side, and
that's you know, matched up with with Wizard of Oz.
During Great Kicking the Sky, it's the scene where the
house is flying around during Dorothy's nightmare and it gets
(03:08):
picked up off the ground in Kansas and it's flying around,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The soundtrack to that little section of the movie. It's
pretty incredible. It's kind of eerie if you think about
it right completely aery and listen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I may have when I first saw that, I may
have had a substance in me while I was you know,
just something natural, something that you know, grows in the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
God's green earth, that's enery exactly say, And I might
have had a little bit of that in my system
and have been thinking to myself, oh my god, this
really happened.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This is what they did. They just didn't tell anybody.
I hate to break the news to everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But that's how we listened to the music when we
first heard it back then.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know, it used to be one of those things
you just couldn't talk about.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But I mean, let's face it, I was as high
as a lab rat when I saw that the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I went, holy shit, are you kidding me with this?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And I told everyone I knew, And then I told
Alan Parsons about.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It, and he said, I have no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And I believe the gentleman's name is Dick Perry P
A R R. Y. I believe who did that iconic
solo which I'm just struck with because I had heard
that about a month ago driving and reconnected with that
song Great.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gig in the Sky because it is it's just so haunting.
You know, you've got to track this thing down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There was a story on Netflix on David and Roger
on the making of Dark Side, and it's incredible to see,
you know, there's somebody sitting at the soundboard and things
are isolated, and when you think about all the things
that were involved. We think about time, think about how
it opened up with you know, the different clocks and
the chimes and all that stuff. It's just it was
(04:54):
so intricate and in this day and age you can
create whatever between AI and whatever you want to find
on YouTube. This was nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy one.
When this was going on, there was no AI. There
were no sound effects libraries for you know, for acid taking,
dope smoking music artists in London.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, this is way pre tech, exactly crazy. Yeah, and
by the way, one last thing on it. From a
DJ perspective, I think you can agree when you played
something off of Dark Side of the Moon in the
album days, it was fairly easy to walk outside, have
to go to the bathroom and you know, take a
(05:37):
leak and not feel so concerned that you were going
to miss the transition from one song to the other
because you could just let it play.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
There was no dead air.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Nineteen ninety eight, Bob Dylan won three Grammys for Album
of the Year for Time out of Mind, which marked
a significant comeback for Dylan.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, you were the real Dylan fan among us.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I love him, and certainly I've gotten a greater appreciation,
but this is not an album that I was really
one that I spent a lot of time with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, it wasn't airplay friendly in those days? When we
think about that, and yeah, it was so great for
him to be celebrated.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I wonder really how he.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Really felt about it when it really comes down to it,
because I know, you know, he's one to shy away from.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A lot of the spotlight and the limelight. I don't
think he cared. I don't think he cared. You know,
I don't think he could care less.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Really he He's going out on the road, right Yeah,
he and Willie Nelson, I understand, are going back out
for I think that what they call it, the Outlaw Tour.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And of course we're dealing in this, which I find,
you know, amusing because I've always been a fan. And
now there's you know, a tremendous resurgence in popularity for
Bob because of the Timothy Chamale movie.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
A couple of things. You know, he sold his catalog
for three three hundred million dollars. A huge debate about that.
You and I think have have talked about, you know,
whether this is the right thing or not.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But let's face.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It, at eighty maybe eighty one years old, at this point,
there's no way Bob Dylan's making three hundred million dollars
doing anything. I don't care if he's going out with
Willie Nelson or you know, the remaining members of the
Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He's not making three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think it was a great play for him and
for his legacy as kids or charity or whatever he's
going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, my understanding many times is and I don't have
inside track, but many times these moves are are done
preemptively so there is no messiness, and you know, family
matters and estates and whatnot. So I think we sometimes
see it as the you know won, there is the
(07:58):
money grab and every and I don't understand whatsoever the
way the valuations of these things really ultimately hold up,
you know, from the investment side.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It boggles me still to this day.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But yeah, that was a noteworthy you know moment that
that that that happened. But I'm just amused where there's
a resurgence because it's like, really, you're just discovering him everybody,
you know, That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, people are late to the party at times,
you know, my own, my own personal example like that,
And there was no movie, but was Neil Young.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know his voice. When I was younger, when I
was on the air, when you and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I worked together and in Boston, I was never a monster,
Neil young fan.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And the older than I've gotten, the more.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Beauty I have seen in his lyrics, in his voice,
He's got the voice of an angel. And as a
guitar player, being able to pick up a guitar and
play the needle and the damage done or old Man
Harvest Moon and hear the beauty and the simplicity as
(09:11):
a guitar player, you know, he had one. He's got
one or two tricks up his sleeve. But you know,
I just love it. I just love it. And Dylan,
I'm starting to feel the same way Aga And I'm really,
you know, kind of late to that party as well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But that's okay. It's like a fine wine. You know,
you discover things when you discover them. Let's talk about
the movie for a minute. I'm anxious to see it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Have you seen it? Are you wanting to see it?
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't want to go to the movies to see it,
but I do. I do want to see it. And
you know, I'm gonna be a tough cookie with it
because I I'm such a fan, so I'm I don't
know if I'm going to be the pushover customer for
that movie, but I am dying to see it. I
(09:56):
saw Timothy Shamalay on Saturday Night Live a few weeks
back before himed a couple of songs Dylan songs. One
I never heard of and I can't remember the other.
But it was fairly fairly obscure. But I'm curious. I
am curious for sure, But I don't you know, I'm well,
(10:17):
we'll see the jury for me will be until I
see it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Leave I read this kid learned how to play guitar.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And by the way he sang, it's his voice in
the movie for the movie, right, he learned how to
do these things.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's incredible. That isn't That isn't incredible. But why aren't
you Why aren't you gonna go to the movies? By
the way, I love the movie. I just went to
the movies a few weeks back. Why am I? Well,
that's a whole other I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's just have it now. I'd rather see it in
my living room. You know, you like going to the movies.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
At one point, and then COVID hit and then everyone
stayed out of the theaters.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And then yeah, I sh there, you know, new theaters
popping up and new ways of seeing movies. Should give it,
I should give it a shot. But it is winter here,
Harry in New England. So I just went uh and
we can move on in a minute. And got the
biggest thing a popcorn I could.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And I stopped at Walgreens before and I got some
milk duds, and not just some milk duds. I got
the thing that's like a milk carton, you know, the
large milk duds. And I got the popcorn with the butter,
and I dumped the entire thing of milk duds in
the popcorn and I just eat my face off.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Be bag feed bag attachment feed bag Yeah, feedback attachment.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
One more thing on Dylan Dave Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Dave Stewart fame of the Eurythmics and many other, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Great bodies of work.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Dave is releasing for Record Store Day a Dylan.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Collection that I'm looking forward to hearing as well.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Interesting he I loved his his playing and what I
lie to you, Oh god, yeah, this is kind of
what pisses me off about you know, the podcast, Like
I would love to be able to throw a few
seconds of that on, you know, with music rights again
another podcast for you know, another discussion for another podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But man, think about that. What a great song that was.
Oh yeah, he's he's an amazing talent.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Nineteen seventy four, Kiss released their debut album.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Remember the cover of this just thanks I do? Yeah?
Were you a Kiss fan, Harry?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Oh yeah, I joined the Kiss army. Oh boy when
when Destroyer came out? By the way, Destroyer is still
one of my favorite I'm embarrassed to say this. It's
my guilty pleasure, but one of my favorite albums. I mean,
Detroit Rock City, King of the Nighttime World, Flaming You
shouted out loud?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you love me? Beth? Like there every song I
leaven Beth. Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
There's something Sorry, you're judging me buzz over Beth.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I am your correct.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So let's talk about this for a minute with Kiss.
He Gene Simmons was a genius, you know, I think
about it in nineteen seventy five when we bought Destroyer
seventy six, whenever that came out, I remember going to
Hurdy Gurdy Records in Wooster. My father brought me and
(13:20):
when I opened the album, there was a pamphlet in
there to join the Kiss Army. This was marketing in
nineteen seventy six, before there was any marketing for bands
or anything. Gene Simmons built that brand. Remember the reality show.
Remember his office, it was all all brand stuff. When
you look at his face. There's something called unaidy to
(13:41):
recall and advertising, and that is as an example, if
you cut your finger, Buzz, here's a question for you.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
If you cut your finger, what do you do? What
do you go get paper towel?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You answered that incorrectly, and we'll think that what do
you get?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You go get a band aid? Well, band aid's name
of a brand. It's not what that actual thing is.
You're putting a bandage on your finger. Unaided recall. They
have created. You look at Gene Simmons face. You show
anyone in the world Jean Simmons face, and there's a
ninety percent chance someone's going to look at that and
go kiss or Gene Simmons.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
They have created from a from such.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
A you know from the beginning, honestly, something that honest,
I don't know of anyone else that did anything like
that for years and years.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Do you think he knew back then that he was
ultimately going to be creating a kiss casket for purchase?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Is there really a kiss casket? Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh gosh, well, you know, after seeing the reality show,
I'd say there probably was. But you know, I don't know,
there's nothing he wouldn't put his name on. But it's
not just the name Buzz like there was. There was
something style realistically that blended with everything that he's done.
I think the guy's a genius. I'm not a.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Fan really now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I don't know that i'd go see him, but I
will tell you I went to see them in Rochester,
New York, and Jim McDonald and John Sheer, you know
John Sheer from New York.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I know, I don't know him personally, but he's a
legendary figure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Well, when I was at CMF in Rochester, John Sure
did a bunch of shows in Western New York and
I did so we did the radio station did so
much work that I got a pass. I got a
lamb in it for Metropolitan Entertainment, that was their company,
and I was told I could use it at any
Metropolitan show anywhere in the country, and I never used
it right. I would always if they were coming, I
(15:41):
would say, i'll come, I'll use my pass.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I did if they weren't there, I didn't go.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Kiss played the Rochester you know, Auditorium or whatever it was,
and I remember calling John sher before saying, hey, listen,
I'm going backstage for Kiss.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He said, behave yourself, young man.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And I stood out side what they call the sewing room,
and Gene Simmons came out and he had his all dressed,
full makeup, and you know, I'm six one or something
like that, and I remember.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Looking up at him going, holy shit, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He had to live on huh yeah, yeah, had every
And then the rest of the band came out and
they were standing around shooting the breeze, and I remember
the discussion. The discussion was Gene Simmons talking about how
bad it was in Batavia up the road potatoes like
a fucking Batavia.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So at any rate, this may be the only time
on any podcast ever that the Batavia was singled out.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Potato Listen, Batavia. I will defend Batavia.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I used to live in Rochester and we'd go back
and forth between Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I would.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think I might have spent a night there one
night when I was just too tired to get all
the way to Rochester.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But yeah, Batavia, New York. Don't you start defending Syracuse
to me? Okay, sorry, all right, all right. Listen.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Nineteen eighty ACD He's lead singer, bon Scott was found
dead in London after a night of bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Tragic moment in rock history, and pretty incredible that the
band survived that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Really, that's that's kind of my mind blown work when
you think about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Back in Black came out in eighty one, right, an
unbelievable recovery for a band with a lead singer. And
he sings bon Scott's songs. He sings It's a Long
Way to the Top and TNT and Highway to Hell.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Honestly better than bon Scott did. Yeah, my opinion. Brian Johnson,
you're talking about Brian Johnson, yahya, Yeah, who's wonderful. I
love him.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he's been a get By the way, if you
are a fan of a CDC or Brian Johnson, a
shameless plug on the Taking a Walk podcast, you'll find
an episode of Brian Johnson and there's a little video
on the YouTube page. Just go to Taking a Walk
or go to YouTube and find the Taking a Walk
podcast there and you'll see a little clip and a
(18:03):
great episode that you did. By the way, thank you.
Nineteen sixty seven, Kurt Cobain was born. He would obviously
go on to be a huge figure and Dave Grohl
and Nirvana and his daughter just reunited at the fire benefit,
the Fire Aid benefit in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, which sounded really good, which was nice to see.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think that was a nice surprise, and I do
also want to plug on Kurt's birthday. On February the twentieth,
had an interview with a author named Kelly Caitlin who
has a book called Forever in Bloom and it's a
very nice story that she has created. She's trying to
(18:48):
and has interviewed a number of people, Danny Goldberg included
who's been on the podcast, the former manager of Nirvana,
and Kelly, who has experienced in her life and her
family members, you know, some mental health related issues and
challenges and misfortunes. Is trying to shine a light not
(19:10):
only on that topic but also shine a light on
some of the other elements in Kurt Cobain's life that
she discovered through those interviews, how he cared deeply about,
you know, social justice and was really looking out, you know,
for people and issues differently than many of us, maybe
(19:33):
new So just a little plug for that upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
This is an awful segue.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But in two thousand and three, the Great White Concert
happened at the Station nightclub in Rhode Island, resulted in
a tragic fire. Friend of mine, Bud Parris, was the
general manager. It was a w hjy you know, promoted
events and a hundred people us their lives that night.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, it was a terrible tragedy.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I remember, you know, being in this area when that
happened and knowing you know, some of the folks at
hj Y as.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Well, friend John LAURENTI, that's right, yep, let's wrap up
with this.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
This is kind of funny. I ordinarily wouldn't use.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Some bit of science in this week in history, but science.
I normally would not include any science in this But
in nineteen ninety seven, scientists in Scotland announced the birth
of Dolly the Sheep. She was cloned that in ninety seven,
that really didn't mean what it does today to us.
(20:41):
Because clones are buzz. They're taking over the damn world.
Everything's cloned.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
This is why I don't go to the movies and
go out in public like that.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Buzz.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Don't worry about the clones in public. Okay, our last story.
You and I will talk separately. That's that's it for
the for the this week.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Thank you Harry for a look at this week in
music history for the week of February the seventeenth, and
thanks for checking out the Taking a Walk podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You could check us out on Apple Podcasts
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Spotify, and we are proudly part of the iHeart podcast Network.
Well, Hi, I'm Buzznight, the host of the Taking a
Walk podcast, and welcome to another Week in Music History
for the week of February the seventeenth, and we go
to the music history desk to my friend, former radio programmer,
media executive, podcaster and also music fan.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What else can I add to your vast list?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Harry Jacobs, dog Dad, And I suspect he's hungry right now.
I've been hearing a little bit from him, so we
may get interrupted at some point, but yeah, dog Dad,
you can add that to the list.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That would be nice.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You might hear my two delinquents, possibly because there shockingly
might be another Amazon delivery today, which never happens around here.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
How many Amazon deliveries do you think that you get
a week at your house, not just.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
For you, for you and your wife.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It is about fourteen fourteen that come here to the house,
and then there's another five or six where I go
to one of those lockers where I'm dispatched.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Do you really have that many? No, I'm just exaggerating.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I was gonna say, we got to have another podcast
about Amazon problems.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
This is called like writer's embellishment.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, but anyway, let's go to the week of February
seventeenth and see what was going on that week, Harry.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And in seventy two, this is a great week for music.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Pink Floyd actually did their first performance of Dark Side
of the Moon in in Total Like the Rainbow in London,
and we started talking about Dark Side.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You know, in a couple of recent episodes, there were some.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
News that you know that had come up, the you know,
the recording, the you know, all kinds of different things,
and I put I put it on a playlist and
I have been listening to it pretty religiously in the
car and at home at night with you know, the
the AirPods on to just hear it in a completely
differfferent way. Now, for some reason, it's one of those
(02:03):
things that no matter how many times I listened to it,
I always seem to hear a little something different, a
little something else.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But it's a just so epic. Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And a quiz for you, what's the song off of
Dark Side of the Moon that has that incredible saxophone solo?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Is a great gig in the sky. I believe that's correct, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, A great gig in the guy, what a haunting
song that is. I mean, it's just think about it,
just the the screams through that, you know, when you
look at you know, at the thing that never really happened.
That when when they talk about dark Side scoring Wizard
(02:48):
of Oz, our friend George Taylor Morris again we tipped
the hat to him. When you watch dark Side, and
that's you know, matched up with with Wizard of Oz.
During Great Kicking the Sky, it's the scene where the
house is flying around during Dorothy's nightmare and it gets
(03:08):
picked up off the ground in Kansas and it's flying around,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The soundtrack to that little section of the movie. It's
pretty incredible. It's kind of eerie if you think about
it right completely aery and listen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I may have when I first saw that, I may
have had a substance in me while I was you know,
just something natural, something that you know, grows in the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
God's green earth, that's enery exactly say, And I might
have had a little bit of that in my system
and have been thinking to myself, oh my god, this
really happened.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This is what they did. They just didn't tell anybody.
I hate to break the news to everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But that's how we listened to the music when we
first heard it back then.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
You know, it used to be one of those things
you just couldn't talk about.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
But I mean, let's face it, I was as high
as a lab rat when I saw that the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I went, holy shit, are you kidding me with this?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And I told everyone I knew, And then I told
Alan Parsons about.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It, and he said, I have no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And I believe the gentleman's name is Dick Perry P
A R R. Y. I believe who did that iconic
solo which I'm just struck with because I had heard
that about a month ago driving and reconnected with that
song Great.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Gig in the Sky because it is it's just so haunting.
You know, you've got to track this thing down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
There was a story on Netflix on David and Roger
on the making of Dark Side, and it's incredible to see,
you know, there's somebody sitting at the soundboard and things
are isolated, and when you think about all the things
that were involved. We think about time, think about how
it opened up with you know, the different clocks and
the chimes and all that stuff. It's just it was
(04:54):
so intricate and in this day and age you can
create whatever between AI and whatever you want to find
on YouTube. This was nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy one.
When this was going on, there was no AI. There
were no sound effects libraries for you know, for acid taking,
dope smoking music artists in London.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, this is way pre tech, exactly crazy. Yeah, and
by the way, one last thing on it. From a
DJ perspective, I think you can agree when you played
something off of Dark Side of the Moon in the
album days, it was fairly easy to walk outside, have
to go to the bathroom and you know, take a
(05:37):
leak and not feel so concerned that you were going
to miss the transition from one song to the other
because you could just let it play.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
There was no dead air.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Nineteen ninety eight, Bob Dylan won three Grammys for Album
of the Year for Time out of Mind, which marked
a significant comeback for Dylan.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, you were the real Dylan fan among us.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I love him, and certainly I've gotten a greater appreciation,
but this is not an album that I was really
one that I spent a lot of time with.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, it wasn't airplay friendly in those days? When we
think about that, and yeah, it was so great for
him to be celebrated.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I wonder really how he.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Really felt about it when it really comes down to it,
because I know, you know, he's one to shy away from.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
A lot of the spotlight and the limelight. I don't
think he cared. I don't think he cared. You know,
I don't think he could care less.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Really he He's going out on the road, right Yeah,
he and Willie Nelson, I understand, are going back out
for I think that what they call it, the Outlaw Tour.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And of course we're dealing in this, which I find,
you know, amusing because I've always been a fan. And
now there's you know, a tremendous resurgence in popularity for
Bob because of the Timothy Chamale movie.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
A couple of things. You know, he sold his catalog
for three three hundred million dollars. A huge debate about that.
You and I think have have talked about, you know,
whether this is the right thing or not.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
But let's face.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It, at eighty maybe eighty one years old, at this point,
there's no way Bob Dylan's making three hundred million dollars
doing anything. I don't care if he's going out with
Willie Nelson or you know, the remaining members of the
Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He's not making three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think it was a great play for him and
for his legacy as kids or charity or whatever he's
going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, my understanding many times is and I don't have
inside track, but many times these moves are are done
preemptively so there is no messiness, and you know, family
matters and estates and whatnot. So I think we sometimes
see it as the you know won, there is the
(07:58):
money grab and every and I don't understand whatsoever the
way the valuations of these things really ultimately hold up,
you know, from the investment side.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It boggles me still to this day.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But yeah, that was a noteworthy you know moment that
that that that happened. But I'm just amused where there's
a resurgence because it's like, really, you're just discovering him everybody,
you know, That's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, people are late to the party at times,
you know, my own, my own personal example like that,
And there was no movie, but was Neil Young.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know his voice. When I was younger, when I
was on the air, when you and.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I worked together and in Boston, I was never a monster,
Neil young fan.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And the older than I've gotten, the more.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Beauty I have seen in his lyrics, in his voice,
He's got the voice of an angel. And as a
guitar player, being able to pick up a guitar and
play the needle and the damage done or old Man
Harvest Moon and hear the beauty and the simplicity as
(09:11):
a guitar player, you know, he had one. He's got
one or two tricks up his sleeve. But you know,
I just love it. I just love it. And Dylan,
I'm starting to feel the same way Aga And I'm really,
you know, kind of late to that party as well.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But that's okay. It's like a fine wine. You know,
you discover things when you discover them. Let's talk about
the movie for a minute. I'm anxious to see it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Have you seen it? Are you wanting to see it?
I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't want to go to the movies to see it,
but I do. I do want to see it. And
you know, I'm gonna be a tough cookie with it
because I I'm such a fan, so I'm I don't
know if I'm going to be the pushover customer for
that movie, but I am dying to see it. I
(09:56):
saw Timothy Shamalay on Saturday Night Live a few weeks
back before himed a couple of songs Dylan songs. One
I never heard of and I can't remember the other.
But it was fairly fairly obscure. But I'm curious. I
am curious for sure, But I don't you know, I'm well,
(10:17):
we'll see the jury for me will be until I
see it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Leave I read this kid learned how to play guitar.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
And by the way he sang, it's his voice in
the movie for the movie, right, he learned how to
do these things.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That's incredible. That isn't That isn't incredible. But why aren't
you Why aren't you gonna go to the movies? By
the way, I love the movie. I just went to
the movies a few weeks back. Why am I? Well,
that's a whole other I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's just have it now. I'd rather see it in
my living room. You know, you like going to the movies.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
At one point, and then COVID hit and then everyone
stayed out of the theaters.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And then yeah, I sh there, you know, new theaters
popping up and new ways of seeing movies. Should give it,
I should give it a shot. But it is winter here,
Harry in New England. So I just went uh and
we can move on in a minute. And got the
biggest thing a popcorn I could.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And I stopped at Walgreens before and I got some
milk duds, and not just some milk duds. I got
the thing that's like a milk carton, you know, the
large milk duds. And I got the popcorn with the butter,
and I dumped the entire thing of milk duds in
the popcorn and I just eat my face off.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Be bag feed bag attachment feed bag Yeah, feedback attachment.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
One more thing on Dylan Dave Stewart.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Dave Stewart fame of the Eurythmics and many other, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Great bodies of work.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Dave is releasing for Record Store Day a Dylan.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Collection that I'm looking forward to hearing as well.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Interesting he I loved his his playing and what I
lie to you, Oh god, yeah, this is kind of
what pisses me off about you know, the podcast, Like
I would love to be able to throw a few
seconds of that on, you know, with music rights again
another podcast for you know, another discussion for another podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
But man, think about that. What a great song that was.
Oh yeah, he's he's an amazing talent.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Nineteen seventy four, Kiss released their debut album.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Remember the cover of this just thanks I do? Yeah?
Were you a Kiss fan, Harry?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Oh yeah, I joined the Kiss army. Oh boy when
when Destroyer came out? By the way, Destroyer is still
one of my favorite I'm embarrassed to say this. It's
my guilty pleasure, but one of my favorite albums. I mean,
Detroit Rock City, King of the Nighttime World, Flaming You
shouted out loud?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you love me? Beth? Like there every song I
leaven Beth. Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
There's something Sorry, you're judging me buzz over Beth.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I am your correct.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So let's talk about this for a minute with Kiss.
He Gene Simmons was a genius, you know, I think
about it in nineteen seventy five when we bought Destroyer
seventy six, whenever that came out, I remember going to
Hurdy Gurdy Records in Wooster. My father brought me and
(13:20):
when I opened the album, there was a pamphlet in
there to join the Kiss Army. This was marketing in
nineteen seventy six, before there was any marketing for bands
or anything. Gene Simmons built that brand. Remember the reality show.
Remember his office, it was all all brand stuff. When
you look at his face. There's something called unaidy to
(13:41):
recall and advertising, and that is as an example, if
you cut your finger, Buzz, here's a question for you.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
If you cut your finger, what do you do? What
do you go get paper towel?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You answered that incorrectly, and we'll think that what do
you get?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You go get a band aid? Well, band aid's name
of a brand. It's not what that actual thing is.
You're putting a bandage on your finger. Unaided recall. They
have created. You look at Gene Simmons face. You show
anyone in the world Jean Simmons face, and there's a
ninety percent chance someone's going to look at that and
go kiss or Gene Simmons.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
They have created from a from such.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
A you know from the beginning, honestly, something that honest,
I don't know of anyone else that did anything like
that for years and years.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Do you think he knew back then that he was
ultimately going to be creating a kiss casket for purchase?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Is there really a kiss casket? Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh gosh, well, you know, after seeing the reality show,
I'd say there probably was. But you know, I don't know,
there's nothing he wouldn't put his name on. But it's
not just the name Buzz like there was. There was
something style realistically that blended with everything that he's done.
I think the guy's a genius. I'm not a.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Fan really now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I don't know that i'd go see him, but I
will tell you I went to see them in Rochester,
New York, and Jim McDonald and John Sheer, you know
John Sheer from New York.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I know, I don't know him personally, but he's a
legendary figure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Well, when I was at CMF in Rochester, John Sure
did a bunch of shows in Western New York and
I did so we did the radio station did so
much work that I got a pass. I got a
lamb in it for Metropolitan Entertainment, that was their company,
and I was told I could use it at any
Metropolitan show anywhere in the country, and I never used
it right. I would always if they were coming, I
(15:41):
would say, i'll come, I'll use my pass.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I did if they weren't there, I didn't go.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Kiss played the Rochester you know, Auditorium or whatever it was,
and I remember calling John sher before saying, hey, listen,
I'm going backstage for Kiss.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He said, behave yourself, young man.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
And I stood out side what they call the sewing room,
and Gene Simmons came out and he had his all dressed,
full makeup, and you know, I'm six one or something
like that, and I remember.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Looking up at him going, holy shit, holy shit.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He had to live on huh yeah, yeah, had every
And then the rest of the band came out and
they were standing around shooting the breeze, and I remember
the discussion. The discussion was Gene Simmons talking about how
bad it was in Batavia up the road potatoes like
a fucking Batavia.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So at any rate, this may be the only time
on any podcast ever that the Batavia was singled out.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Potato Listen, Batavia. I will defend Batavia.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I used to live in Rochester and we'd go back
and forth between Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I would.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think I might have spent a night there one
night when I was just too tired to get all
the way to Rochester.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But yeah, Batavia, New York. Don't you start defending Syracuse
to me? Okay, sorry, all right, all right. Listen.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Nineteen eighty ACD He's lead singer, bon Scott was found
dead in London after a night of bad behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Tragic moment in rock history, and pretty incredible that the
band survived that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Really, that's that's kind of my mind blown work when
you think about it, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Back in Black came out in eighty one, right, an
unbelievable recovery for a band with a lead singer. And
he sings bon Scott's songs. He sings It's a Long
Way to the Top and TNT and Highway to Hell.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Honestly better than bon Scott did. Yeah, my opinion. Brian Johnson,
you're talking about Brian Johnson, yahya, Yeah, who's wonderful. I
love him.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, he's been a get By the way, if you
are a fan of a CDC or Brian Johnson, a
shameless plug on the Taking a Walk podcast, you'll find
an episode of Brian Johnson and there's a little video
on the YouTube page. Just go to Taking a Walk
or go to YouTube and find the Taking a Walk
podcast there and you'll see a little clip and a
(18:03):
great episode that you did. By the way, thank you.
Nineteen sixty seven, Kurt Cobain was born. He would obviously
go on to be a huge figure and Dave Grohl
and Nirvana and his daughter just reunited at the fire benefit,
the Fire Aid benefit in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, which sounded really good, which was nice to see.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think that was a nice surprise, and I do
also want to plug on Kurt's birthday. On February the twentieth,
had an interview with a author named Kelly Caitlin who
has a book called Forever in Bloom and it's a
very nice story that she has created. She's trying to
(18:48):
and has interviewed a number of people, Danny Goldberg included
who's been on the podcast, the former manager of Nirvana,
and Kelly, who has experienced in her life and her
family members, you know, some mental health related issues and
challenges and misfortunes. Is trying to shine a light not
(19:10):
only on that topic but also shine a light on
some of the other elements in Kurt Cobain's life that
she discovered through those interviews, how he cared deeply about,
you know, social justice and was really looking out, you know,
for people and issues differently than many of us, maybe
(19:33):
new So just a little plug for that upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
This is an awful segue.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But in two thousand and three, the Great White Concert
happened at the Station nightclub in Rhode Island, resulted in
a tragic fire. Friend of mine, Bud Parris, was the
general manager. It was a w hjy you know, promoted
events and a hundred people us their lives that night.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, it was a terrible tragedy.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I remember, you know, being in this area when that
happened and knowing you know, some of the folks at
hj Y as.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Well, friend John LAURENTI, that's right, yep, let's wrap up
with this.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
This is kind of funny. I ordinarily wouldn't use.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Some bit of science in this week in history, but science.
I normally would not include any science in this But
in nineteen ninety seven, scientists in Scotland announced the birth
of Dolly the Sheep. She was cloned that in ninety seven,
that really didn't mean what it does today to us.
(20:41):
Because clones are buzz. They're taking over the damn world.
Everything's cloned.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
This is why I don't go to the movies and
go out in public like that.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Buzz.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Don't worry about the clones in public. Okay, our last story.
You and I will talk separately. That's that's it for
the for the this week.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Thank you Harry for a look at this week in
music history for the week of February the seventeenth, and
thanks for checking out the Taking a Walk podcast.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You could check us out on Apple Podcasts
Speaker 1 (21:11):
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