I've Had It | Podcasting, Pet Peeves and All Things We've Had It With

Payne chats with the dynamic hosts of the "I've Had It" podcast, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan, as they share their personal journeys and the pivotal moments that led them to say, "I've had it!" With a mix of humor and sincerity, they reveal how they turn frustration into powerful conversations, and how their podcast has become a platform for change and connection. Don't miss this hilarious episode full of whacky stories.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
I guess, I'm so say, and we're back right. That's
how we usually start this. I think that's that's how
it starts. So I'm told by we I mean Dylan
and I not Pain. Unfortunately, he's kind of recovering from
a cold. He's fine, he's gonna survive.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
But please send a love and prayers because he might
not survive.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, I'll give him a distance hug for you.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
So these guests, there's actually a funny like origin story
for how we met these people. It's two ladies. I
think it was when High Stranger was coming out and
we were looking at the charts. We were looking at
it and we were hoping it was gonna get number one.
But there was one show we could not get past,
and it was called I've Had It, And me and

(01:03):
Pain were being maybe a little salty. We were like,
what is this show. What is this show even good?
Let's check it out, Let's see what it's about. He
pulled up like a TikTok and it was hilarious and
he sent it to me and he has not stopped
sending me clips of them since that.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's funny speaking about how we got number two for
he strange. There's this running curse that I swear pained.
I don't know what he did to bring it on,
but it's happened in the last like three podcasts or
four maybe where we get the number two spot on Apple,
but we just never can get to that number one spot.
I don't know what it is, but it just keeps happening.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, it's not a big deal, but it drives me crazy.
It's just like you just want to see. Also, like
Apple sends you the graphic. This is like some kind
of insider thing. They send you the graphic of your
show being number one, Like congratulations to this podcast for
getting number one, and we see that graphic, but when
it doesn't happen, you're like, come on, now, it's just

(02:01):
you know, some graphic designer wasted his time making that
and now it's never going to be used. But yeah,
this show. We could not get past them. I don't
think we ever got past them, and they kind of
deserve it. They're hilarious. Their show is so good. I
think it was last year we went out to Oklahoma
City where they're based, and Payne went on their show. Yeah,
with the show, they're basically complaining, right, So it's a

(02:23):
divorce lawyer and a interior designer and like the way
I'm describing it doesn't sound funny, but it is. It's funny.
They're just complaining about what they've had it with.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah, we were lucky enough to see them live in
Atlanta about a year year and a half ago, and
that was my first experience and I had never heard
of them before that. But just to see them up
there live and see a fully packed theater just cracking up.
You would never expect it from these two women from
the outside. They kind of give off like this. I
don't know, I don't want to call them like Republicans,
but you know, just like.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, they would admit that. You would assume they're conservative.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Totally conservative, rich white women, but they're just so the
polar opposite of that, just like very liberal, very hilarious,
no filter, just two of the coolest people you'd ever meet.
So it's a really fun show to listen to.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I cannot recommend their podcast enough without further ado. Our
guests for today's episode are Angie Pumps Sullivan and Jennifer
Welch of the I've Had It podcast.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
So I've had it with us?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yeah, everyone's had it with us.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Have you had it with having had it?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I would think that we should, but we're so cynical. Yeah,
like our default setting. I'll tell you something that we
have had it with and that's like, once you do
a podcast, you're always looking at images of yourself, clips
of yourself, your social media. I've had it with us, right,

(04:02):
exhausting it is in person, We're fine, but it's just
like she'll watch and be like, oh my god, I
was so obnoxious blah blah blah, and I'm like, no,
you were great.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
And then I feel the same way, and we get
sick of each other's voices.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, you get kind of numb to it, right, So
how do you sort of keep a level head with
Is this still good?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Or am I out of bounds? Or are you just
like letting it fly?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
We let it fly, but always we always let it fly.
We always think, oh my god, we are complete morons.
We're going to face plant any second, and it doesn't happen.
And I'm sure that it's imminent. Maybe after this, maybe
after we guessed on on.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Content, this will be the clip you see where I'm
actually I quit. Yeah, that's your next podcast.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I quit this shit.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So I was doing some deep diving. I wanted to
find some little fun facts. But yes, so this one
is for you. I read somewhere that you have a
huge crush on Keith Morrison, the guy from Dateline.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I do.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
He's pretty old.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
He's old, and he's not even really that attractive. He's
not unattractive, but I wouldn't say.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
He's, what's the appeal super attractive.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I love Dateline. I love a good homicide right before bedtime, right,
And I recently saw on Instagram it was like, if
you like to watch homicide shows right before bed you
probably are mentally unstable, and I was like, that totally
sounds like right.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
A loser wrote that, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Another person I have a huge crush on is Larry David,
who's also old, not super attractive, and I'm madly in
love with him as well.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, so is it just more like a fantasy thing
where like, oh, yeah, but would you ever actually, like,
you know what if you know, if you weren't married
and Keith was like, hey, let's grab a.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Drink, I'd probably take one for the team and probably
slap it around with Keith.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, I probably would.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I would probably be like I slept with Keith Morrison.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Right, and.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
He can still get it out, and I would probably
kiss and tell immediately.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I mean, you have to or it's like not worth it.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Hiley told us one because we were talking about how
hot Keith Morrison was and she looked him up and
she gets straight. Women are just so desperate.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You'll have less to choose from technically, right, right, Yeah,
that's an unfair our rage.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Yeah, I read that you have a smoking glove.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
I did when I smoked cigarettes. I used to hate
to wash my hands all the time, and I first
and I had little kids, so I used to think, oh,
you won't be able to smell it. So I would
steal doctor's office gloves and wear them like surgical gloves
and smoke, smoke, smoke, and then throw them away. And
I just thought no one could smell smoke on me, which,
of course they still could.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Like a latex glove, latex gloves, surgical gloves.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Would you be out in public with yea with the
latex glovesflare so it looks like you just performed surgery somewhere,
but you're just hitting a little quick.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Figger marble light short in a box.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
I loved it, But you yell both smoked cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yes, I haven't smoked in ten years? When did
you quit? Twenty eighteen? But I vabe you don't, babe. Yeah,
she would get so we smoking cigarettes was a big
part of our bonding years form send me I can
see it, you know, it is just smoke a sig together.
And she'd be like, hey, I'm coming over to your
house so we can go on your porch and burn.
And she would always have this big like gob of

(07:27):
medical gloves that she stole from the pediatrician's office. Literally
took her kids in with a fever, grabs off the
wall where the gloves are, should grab the whole box,
stick in her purse, should whip the glove out, put
it on, and then light her cigarette. And here's the deal.
I quit five years before her. She always reeked of smoke. Yeah,

(07:48):
And I told her when I quit, I was like,
you reak of an ash tray.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
If you quit for like five days, you can automatically
smell it on everyone. Yes, And you're like, holy shit,
this whole time, people have been smelling this on me. Yes,
it's a weird, like headgating with that.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
I work like a robe over my clothes, a head thing.
So I could just drop the cigarette, run in and
be mom again. But I just needed that five minutes.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
The key is your hands, though, yes, even just washing
your hands, Yes, on your hands, yes, shake a hand.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
They can smell that shit.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
So you quit smoking? How'd you do that?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well?

Speaker 6 (08:23):
I was in Las Vegas with my daughter at a
dance competition and I couldn't breathe couldn't breathe. So we're
the uber's taking us to the airport and I'm like
passing out and I went into the emergency room. And
I was in a hospital in Las Vegas for eight days.
That's what made me quit. It didn't take much for me.
I had like pneumonia and all this stuff, and it

(08:44):
was really bad, and so I.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Didn't pick it up after that. But I started vaping.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Is it bad that I wanted to find my vape
the whole time? You were telling me? Yeah, yeah, I know.
So it turns out you just need a cigarette the
whole time. Is that why?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (08:55):
It turns out all I needed was to almost die
to quit smoking because I'm that's scary though. It was,
Oh my god, it was scary. My daughter was like twelve, So.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
You actually just call turkey at that point, or do you.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Well, they gave me a patch when I was in
the hospital, a nicotine patch. Yeah, okay, said I wit bye.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I smoked my last cigarette because and I was probably
like thirty nine years old. Yeah, I'm forty nine now.
So I was thirty nine and I was sitting on
my back porch and had a fresh pack of cigarettes
and I smoked one, and I was like, I'm not
going to escape this. And I'm pretty vain too, and
I was thinking about just there's a certain age where
your voice is affected, your laugh is affected, and you're

(09:32):
always identified as a smoker. And I was like, Okay,
this is going to be the last one, but I'm
not going to tell anybody. So I smoked it and
it was fantastic and I took the cigarettes, put him
under the faucet so they were wet, throw them away,
drove to Walgreens, bought a box of nicotine gum, and
I never smoked again.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Do you still chew the gum?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Really?

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Have you had the mints before?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Now?

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Sometimes you can get a little too buzzy off.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
On the men on the men's ments.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Yeah, it makes you kind of on this nauseated sometimes.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
That that's an airplane, just mints.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
When I was like quitting vaping for a little bit,
where I was like, I think I might throw up
on this plane right now.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, you vape on a plane.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Uh yeah, you have the trick, right, Yes, you gotta
go hold.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
It in, you go.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that's what you do.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
There's no way they know what you're doing right now.
I'm just picking my nose. I have had a.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Few close calls where I'm like looking around, no flight attendants.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I think I'm good. I'll take a big rip and
they're like, so, sir, would you like a drink? And
I'm like.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
The sneak attack.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Yeah, you have to do that though, just don't be
obnoxious about it.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, when I was on your show, I was complaining
about airports and planes and TSA. I don't know if
I even told the full story of one of the
things that happened with TSA one time, and because it
sounds unbelievable, I think, but I think that there are
some people who work for the TSA who really beyond

(11:02):
just not liking their job and not getting paid enough
and they're stupid looking uniforms, whatever it is, they just
really want to take out whatever they're feeling in their
life on you, right. And so one morning I'd had
it just in my own way. It was just one
of those bad mornings and TSA and Atlanta Airport sounded
fucking horrible.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
And so I'm lining up.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I know the drill, I do this all the time,
and this guy's pointing to me to move my bin
here there, and I'm like, and I gave him a
little little look, little attitude. I was like, look, bro,
I get it. I know what I'm doing. And he
didn't like that at all. And so I walked through
the security thing where they you know, wave you down,

(11:44):
and I'm waiting for my bag, and all of a sudden,
I see all these other bags over a ten minute period,
coming through. My bag is nowhere in sight, and I'm like, okay,
these bags and these people that were with me behind
me are already gone. There's new people now they're leaving.
I was like, okay, like did you take my bag?
And I was like like right before I was going
to go look and ask somebody.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
My bag comes through.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I grabbed my stuff and then I head to my
terminal and I got like five minutes till it boards.
About halfway to the terminal, I get a little beep
on my phone. Thankfully, because I lose all my things
all the time. I put an air tag in my
wallet and I get a notification that my wallet is
back there at TSA and.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
I'm like, oh, okay, like one how to wait? What?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
And I remember just a conscious visual image of an
empty tray that I stacked. So you got two things here.
Either of the thousand times I've flown and I've always
grabbed my wallet and stacked an empty tray, I didn't
do it one time, or this motherfucker took out my wallet.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah, that's why I shook so long.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And so when I came back there trying to figure
out where it was, they were immediately on the defense,
I'm like, god, I'm just I'm looking where's the loss
and found looking for it. Eventually I did find it,
but had I not had that airt tag, I would
have landed in Vegas three hours later with no idea,
no credit cards, nothing. So this guy, I'm convinced literally

(13:20):
just took out my wallet because he didn't like my attitude.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
That day for sure, and he can fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And they gas slip me into insanity about it to
the point where I could say this story. Someone's like, well,
you sure you just didn't grab you Well, I'm like, no,
I know I didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
But typically they would have been like, hey somebody, or
they would have seen your idea and said Payne lindsay
please return.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
To thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You hear that all the time.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
At the airport, right, it would be like flag me down.
They were acting like what are you talking about? You
didn't grab your stuff. I'm like, I'm just saying my
phone says it's here, So where would it be if
it's here?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
If it's not here, here are the best.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, So definitely throw an air tag and the shit
you want TSA to not.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Take from you and gaslight you over.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
You know he did because you would have seen it,
you would have grabbed it, you wouldn't have just left it.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And also they were like, okay, who took it? And
I'm like, look around, the guy's gone forever. Just doesn't
work there anymore. He's on break, he's just on rotation
nowhere in sight.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
When you were on our podcast, one of the things
you had had it with are people that leave their
windows up, and every single flight since then, that was
probably last year, some time that you were in Oklahma City.
There are people that do that, and I always think
of pain. Lindsay and you and I for a while
would take a picture and text it to each other. Well,

(14:44):
I have a new grievance and it involves her. Oh no,
Kylie and I were sitting by pumps on one of
our flights. I think we've been on tour right now.
I think we're on our way to Florida. People that
have the brightness on their phone, Oh yeah, I don't
realize that full tilt. It's a dark plane and she

(15:05):
has I mean it is full brightness. It is illuminating everything.
I can't even watch my screen because hers is so blinding.
So finally, I just couldn't fucking take it anymore. And
she had her phone and she's just totally dialed in.
She's all into this Trump trial, right, and it's like
her Super Bowl. So I take her phone and then
I turn the brightness. I haven't turn back out either.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah. The thing is is I'm kind of blind, so
I don't notice. So I appreciate that. I appreciated that
you just turned it down. I was like, oh, good call.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
We're good enough friends, right, I can just swipe it down.
But as Paine was saying, it's really bad for your
eyes to see why my eyes are so terrible?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
What makes no sense is that just back to the
complaint of people leaving the window open on the plane,
and it's mostly for flights that are at night time. Wait,
they turned the cabin lights off, so you're the only
big light in this entire cabin. Right, I'll see some
old dude with that up and the sun setting piercing through.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
It's the only windows coming through.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
He's got his iPad full brightness and he has his
light on. Yeah, I mean, how is it not full
of reflections on his Can he even see? Like you
need to be able to turn the lights off around
you to see your device in.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
The first place.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, it's just like a weird old pop pop habit,
like you know, it's like Grandpa's do that or something.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
When I fly, I want people to think she was
so invisible and she was so good at this, she
gets five stars. I want the flight attendants as I
leave to say, great job. You were great today. You
had your own water, you closed your window, your seat
belt was fastened, you didn't recline your seat and miss
everybody off behind you. You fucking nailed it. Same with TSA.

(16:47):
I want to go through TSA and I want the
TSA agents to marvel at how efficient and good I
am at flying. And every time we fly, we fly
a lot, you fly a lot. I am marveled by
all all of the incompetence. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
I had a guy today that was like it was
like the first time he'd ever been to TSA. He
was behind me and he was like, okay, so can
I take my coat off? And they were like, take
everything off except your watch. So he starts taking his
watch off. Oh sorry, my glass. He starts taking his
watch off and he's like, no, you don't need to
take your watch off. You need to take your fanny
pack off and all this stuff. And he kept dysrobing

(17:25):
one at a time and I flew out of TSA
and I was like, that stupid motherfucker. This is why
people hate going to the airport.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, even like people who in everyday life might be
reasonably smart individuals, they just lose all inhibitions and just
everything goes out the window in airport mode and they.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Just they fuck it.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Like I've always like had this joke in my head
of because it takes us so long to board a
plane that we literally add on an.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Hour to every flight we ever take. Yes, like we
should be way way faster than that.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes, Like it takes like if it was just one
of us, it would take you what fifteen seconds, right,
I mean let's say sixty seconds max. Right, if you
have a whole bunch of stuff, Like I want there
to be an Olympic sport where we are up against
different countries and we time how fast it is for
you to I love that we would lose, hands down

(18:21):
every year, bottom of the.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
List, every single time. America would be dead last. Why
I just I think there is this like merge of
like entitlement that some Americans have mixed with incompetence. And
I think America is all about the individual, where in
Europe they teach collectivism, right, and so everybody's just like me, me, me,

(18:46):
I'm getting myself on the plane. I'm doing it my
way instead of collectively thinking what is the most efficient
way for me to navigate through TSA to get on
the plane. And like I said, be fucking invisible, don't
make yourself a point on the plane.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
That's a brilliant take and I think that's accurate.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I also think that, like the back to the entitlement thing,
I think back in the the mid nineties, you know,
flying was more of a novelty, yes, right, Like even
first class was like a big deal, a bigger deal.
It was like special to be on a flight. And
even the flight attendants gave a shit. You know, people

(19:22):
sort of offensive flights. I mean they have reasons to
not give us shit, but like maybe now it's just
what we do. So if you're if you're in the
airport or on an airplane, especially if you're sitting in
thirty six B, cut the ship right, like You're not special.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
You are you are part of the herd, and they
do this all day long.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Right, Yeah, And we used to, like in the in
the nineties, when we would go on a trip, it
was a big deal. What you wore to the airport,
like your airport outfit you thought about group. Yes, it
was a big thing, like, okay, what did you wear,
like nicer stuff? You wore nice clothes.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
It was like, okay, yes, I mean not like dresses,
but not dressing nice formal. You had on a stylish
outfit and not big oversized sweats and pajamas and baggy
t shirts. You had on a good looking outfit, not
necessarily dressing, but you looked stylish.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And it was a big thing. Like if we went
on a trip, it was like, Okay, this is my
airport outfit, and then we get to the hotel, this
will be my dinner outfit. It was a big thing.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
What's the thought line behind that?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Looking good? Rare?

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
And it was a privilege to fly right, maybe you
run into an adventure capitalist and.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Right the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I think that, like I think that we grew up
in a period, and our period was much more casual
than probably our parents, but like getting on an outfit
was a big deal. Like we always kind of dress
more when we're podcasting. Well, we're blazers and we're kind
of dressed up a little bit more because it's like
we want to present that, you know, this is our

(21:00):
job and we take it seriously. And I watched some
podcast and I'm like, they're in their fucking pajamas.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like every time the pajamas, which is fine, but like fine,
but that's how I see you now is a pajama wearer,
right if as a viewer who doesn't know you, right right, Yeah,
I think now it's also way more acceptable to, like
you said, like the oversized clothes. Now there's fashionable ways
to be a bum, yes in public?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yes, right Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
When I first found y'all's podcast, I think I found
it on an Instagram reel, thought you guys were hilarious.
Ended up reaching out to one of you or just
the main account, and then we scheduled something.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
I was like, okay, I'm going to okay, see.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
You were a first person to ever come into Oklahoma City.
We were so excited.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I wanted to do it in person because it's way
more Oh, it's way more fun, but I had.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
No clue about what you guys did or win this
whole thing started, or what you did before that. And
so I kind of want you to tell me in
your own words, like leading up to making your podcast,
I've had it, just how your friendship started and your
previous years of working together in entertainment.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Okay, So we met around twenty years ago through my husband,
who practices law, and Angie is an attorney. My husband's
an attorney, and I'm an interior designer, and she hired
me to decorate her house and that's how we met, right,
And Angie does not care at all about decorating, non stylist.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
She let you do your thing.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
I walk in the front door. You tell the story
about the day. Okay, So here's what happened. So I
was pregnant with my third child. This is important because
I went to a new doctor and they said you
have to do an ultrasound, which I'd never done that
before my previous two kids. And I was like, okay,
So I go in. They're doing this ultrasound. I have
a gray pube.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I was dying.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I felt one hundred pluck. I was thirty five years old.
Oh no, I mean, he walked in and I'm plucking
it out. So then I go back to my house.
I'd not met Jennifer, but I'd loved her designs in
other houses i'd been to. And I was with my
ex husband in the architect and she rolls up in
this off white range Rover and she kept seriously, you know,
because she's eight feet tall, very statuesque, her hair is

(23:23):
blowing in the wind, She's got this super fancy outfit on,
and I'm the first thought in my head is I
fucking hate her? Cats?

Speaker 5 (23:31):
What song is playing in your mind in this image, like.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Hot for Teacher or something ridiculous? And I just thought,
oh god, I'm gonna hate her. And then she walked
in and I had I said, I don't give a
shit about decorating.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
I like women's basketball and softball.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's my thing. This is not my thing.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
And she goes, well, I can tell you you don't
like to decorate, because there's nothing worse on the planet
than silk flowers, and you've got those right in here
in your dining room. And then to make it the
only thing worse than silk flowers is a picture of
silk flowers, and you've got a picture of silk flowers
over the dining room table. And I busted out laughing
and fell head over hills and lave I was like,
I love that, keep it real. Yeah, I mean it

(24:11):
was immediate head over hills in love. And I think
we were pretty much inseparable from that day on.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
What she had was it looked like have you been
to like a open casket funeral? I have, and they
have those flower arrangements over the casket when they close it.
That kind of is like cone shape, but it's a
bunch of different flowers like carnations and baby's breath, And
it's not floral design's most shining moment. She had a

(24:39):
flower silk, not even real flowers, silk flower arrangement suited
for a fucking coffin on her dining room table. But
it gets worse. The dining room table. Do you remember
when you go to your grandmother's house when you were
younger and they would have like a table protecture on
top of the wood that was lastic.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Do you leave that there? You don't? Yes?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I stand by that she had.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That on there with the silk flowers on top of it,
and I am just like, what the fuck you're only
it's just like thirty five. At the time, I'm like,
you're acting like you're eighty with these, you know, casket
flowers and this table protector. It was just tragic, beyond worse.
I mean, it was the worst thing I'd ever seen.

(25:24):
And what's so funny is on paper we really didn't
seem that compatible. Now as friends, I'm super into fashion
and art, super liberal. At the time, Pumps wasn't liberals.
Since then, she's now almost more liberal than I am.
But the time, she was a Republican. I was a
die hard like Democrat and she was kind of churchy

(25:46):
and I'm a diehard atheist. But we had this chemistry
and when we would get together, we laughed and the
conversations were effortless, and we, like she said, we were inseparable.
And then you know, we both changed a lot. She
got divorced. She's not so religious anymore. She's total, die hard,
hardcore liberal Democrat, which I love, which probably saved our friendship.

(26:08):
Probably if you were a Trumper, I think that would
have been at the end of the rod. If I
was the Trumper, I'd jump off a bridge then we, uh,
you know, we had we had these kids. Our kids
are all best friends, and we kind of raised our
kids together. My husband had addiction problems and we're still together.
Her husband had addiction problems. They got divorced, and then

(26:31):
we were on this Bravo TV show called Sweet Home Oklahoma,
which was fucking wild. I get the premise of that
show really like it was almost like, uh, there was
really no premise. It was a thirty minute reality TV show.
You'll have to download and watch it. You and your
girlfriends die laughing. It's really funny. And now that you

(26:52):
know us, I mean.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
It's gonna be way funnier.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah. So it's more, it's like friends. It wasn't drama,
wasn't We didn't. We don't fight with each other because
we don't fight in real life. Like if she pisses
me off, I say, fuck you, you're such a bitch.
She's called me a bitch at least seventeen times to day.
That's the way friends.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Mark that you check your friends.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And it's not a fight. It's like, kind, I hate you,
You're such a bitch, and then you go, yeah, exactly.
But that's real friendship, you know, And so we did
a couple of seasons of that and then we were
it wasn't renewed, and we were so glad we did it.
We had no regrets. We still lived our lives in
Oklahoma City. Angie an attorney, myself an interior designer, and

(27:32):
then our kids were like, Angie didn't have Instagram, but
I did, and I would still post, and all of
these people that watched our reality show would be like, I.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Miss you, guys.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I wish brav I would renew the show. You should
start a podcast. And then my son Dylan and her
daughter Emily, they're the same age and they were each
other's first best friends. They were like, y'all should start
a podcast, and so we thought, okay, let's try it.
So we tried it, and then we got Kylie and

(28:02):
she knows how to make all the Instagram reels and
kind of game the algorithm, and then it just kind
of blew up. And literally, I think when you came
to Oklahoma City, we've been a podcast for four or
five months, I mean you were on the ground floor.
I mean like you reached out and you were like
and we knew who you were because we listen up
and vanished. I remember we were so like, oh my gosh.
Start Like we were very like flattered and like starstruck

(28:27):
and like this is a big deal. Like maybe our
podcast isn't hammered dog shit, maybe it's actually good because
this guy knows what he's doing. And so that was
like a real boost our confidence.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
It really was, Thank you, that's amazing. I was also
I was in my own way.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I was like, I knew I was going to make
this show, and I've been known for true crime investigative stuff.
I just released high Strange about UFOs and doing a
talk show kind of thing was a different format that
I was unfamiliar with, or at least my list might
be like, hey, why are you doing that? And so

(29:02):
I was trying to get some of my reps in
by you know, I thought your show was hilarious, and
so I remember meeting you guys, and I just knew
that you guys had something special going on.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
And you guys were so humble that day.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
And it's four or five months probably is what you
said had been Yeah, and you didn't really know where
what would happen next, and you know the future of
the show is kind of just like week by week,
trying to figure it out all bit as it's growing, right,
which is how it goes. You've built such an enormous
beast since then, and it's been super cool to see

(29:39):
so great job on that. It's it's badass. I mean,
there was a moment there you probably thought, you know,
is this just gonna be for fun and we, you know,
do something else. So when I talk to you guys,
then I thought there was a little bit of that
and your mentality then just out of fun, just like
not taking it too seriously. We don't need this to survive.
But that transition to now doing live shows, like you're

(30:01):
here today because you're doing a live show in Boston
tomorrow Night's yes, that's insane, right.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's insane.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Were you were at our first show in Atlanta and
we were backstage and we were just dying laugh when
we were like, this cannot be real. But I think
in terms of why people like the podcast is our
chemistry and friendship.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
And I think it's relatable totally.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
There's so much like everybody has to be perfect, and
I have to have the perfect TikTok dance and the
perfect this and be the perfect parent, and it's like
it's unattainable, it's not sustainable, like it's okay to be
fucked up. I mean, we've definitely done fucked up shit.
So I think it's probably our chemistry. And then people
bond over bitching about Steph. Yeah, and we get a
ton of that yeah, which is great.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
We both had businesses. Pumps, a successful divorce attorney. I've
been a very successful interior designer, and so when we
started the podcasting, and I'm a bit of a workaholic
and obsessive, and so I would research how can we
make this better? How can we get more YouTube followers,

(31:07):
how can we build a Patreon? And then we got
signed with an agency and that really helped us. But
we approached it with a lot of humility, like we're
going to face plan any minute, plus a lot of
hard work, like we really work hard. We put out
two episodes a week. We constantly are figuring out, Okay,
is this getting flat like you probably do, is this flat?

(31:30):
Is this going to be interesting? Is this relatable? Maybe
an episode leans too heavily in politics, and so I'm like, okay,
let's ease off of that for the next week or so.
Because everybody kind of has fatigue. But she and I
both love politics a lot. And somebody told us with
the podcasting network, do not talk about politics at all,
just don't. And Angie and I were just like, here's

(31:52):
the deal. It's what we're interested in. It's what we
talk about. When the microphones aren't in front of us.
We talk about politics a lot. We're both very we
watch MSNBC, we read the New York Times. We're very
interested in what the hell I was talking about. We're
very so we we decided, let's just do it. We're

(32:12):
gonna piss off, you know, the Trumpers, but who gives
a shit, And so we did it, and we it
was a gamble, but we're so glad we did because
the craziest fucking thing is we interviewed Kamala Harris, like
what three or four weeks ago, and we're sitting there
in DC with the Vice President of the United States

(32:32):
of America. And I think the lesson there is trust
your gut and be yourself. And I think you're more
likable to the people that like you if you're totally yourself,
But if you try to make everybody like you, then
you're boring. There's no passion in that right, right right.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
First of all, what the fuck? Yeah, how did that happen?

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Because my girlfriend Sabrina was like, yeah, I just watched
their latest interview Kamala Harris.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
I was like yeah. I was like wait what I
see it?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And then I was like, holy shit, there's like six
videos y'all joking around. I'm like, okay, I'll see them soon.
I'm sure what is the story behind that, cause that's
that's since sa Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So, our agency had been to the White House to
do like stuff. I don't know exactly what they did,
but it was some outreach with the campaign, and then
the campaign reached out to our agency before the State
of the Union, and so it was kind of floated, hey,

(33:35):
y'all might be able to interview the Vice president. We're
freaking out, and then we don't hear anything for like
six weeks. So we're like, okay, that was fun. They're
fucking with us, those assholes whatever. And then the State
of the Union happens, and obviously the Vice president's incredibly
busy woman, and then all of a sudden it just
gears back up, and so they were like, do you

(33:57):
want to do this? Via zoom, and I'm like, oh no,
we'll come to d C. Absolutely go to that immediately.
So we book it and we get to d C
and we're freaking out. We have to completely disassociate because
it's so we can be serious about stuff and we
talk about serious things. But the reason our friendship has
been so sustainable is we always end up filtering down

(34:20):
to laughing to medicate when things are really serious. And
so we're like, shit, we're interviewing the first female president
of the United States of America, and the Biden administration
has like morals and ethics unlike the Trump administration, so
they wouldn't allow us to do the interview in the
White House because this was campaign oriented. So we do

(34:41):
it at the DNC. So we arrive at the DNC,
we take beta blockers to like block the adrenaline.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Now you're cruising right, we're kind of.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
So we go through a round of security at the
ground floor of the DNC, like frist the wand the
metal detector. Then we go up about four floors and
we get off the elevator and there's like six Secret
Service agents and they are like their hands are up
and they're like stop. Then they frisk us, they go

(35:12):
through every item in our purses. I mean they're opening
up lip bomb, their hands are going We had extra
pair of shoes to change into because we were in hills.
We knew would want to change our ears. Yeah, they
are going through everything. So we're kind of like disassociating.
We can't believe it's happening. I'm looking at her, I'm like,
we're such I mean, everything that we've been through together,
I mean, I mean we know where each other's bodies

(35:33):
are buried, right, So anyway, all of a sudden, they're
like the vice President's like five minutes away, and then
this like full blown combat team comes barreling through the DNC.
It looks like they're dressed in full combat attire, like
the people that went and rated Osamoan lad they've.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Got a Paris Act. Yeah. Yeah, it's just the vice president.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
It's her advance team. So they come through. When they
sweep in our hearts, when you see these like big
assault weapons, and i mean you're just like, oh my god,
it pumps looks at me. She's like, oh my god,
oh my god. A diet. I don't know if my
beta blogger is working and then we go into this
room and then she comes in and I mean like
when the vice president. I mean there's a squad. I

(36:20):
mean there are a secret Service, there's the combat team,
there's her handlers, her aids, a woman that comes in
with a backpack, just like on the series Veep, and
she like pulls it out and she has the water
that only the Veep can drink, and she pours it
into a glass and puts a cover on it and
it arrives before the vice president. Yes, yes, she's the
vice president. She can't drink this water. I mean you

(36:45):
know it has to be tested for poisoner. I mean
the president is like eighty something, so I mean it's
like a major vice president. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
No.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
And she was so charming and relatable and funny, like
she was like a normal person, which you kind of
forgot the interviews.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And then when we watched it, we.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Were both like nauseated. We're like, oh my gosh, I
cannot believe we did this. But she would immediately say
your ease. But she's a very serious person. You know,
she's smart, she's thoughtful, and I hate all the ship
she gets.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
It's so unwarranted.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
I think was it bizarre?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You, yeah, joking about politics together and you're passionate about it,
and that's an organic part of, you know, one of
the through lines of your show. But here you are
with the vice president talking about politics, right. I would
imagine that at the start of it, you're not thinking
that that's ever going to happen. Never, Like, we're just

(37:39):
talking about this from afar, right now, that's just who
we are for fun, right. But here you are with
a real person.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
In the government, right, wildly successful, right.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
So how'd you handle that?

Speaker 6 (37:57):
It was?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I still honestly pain when I see the clips. I honestly,
I'm still just like, I cannot believe that happened. Because
we have been diehard political junkies, the two of us,
and we, I mean like both were so into Trump
being defeated in twenty twenty. We were elated when that ended.

(38:20):
Her full time hobby outside of podcasting is watching the
Donald Trump courtroom implosion. I can't even begin to tell
you how much she's been. Oh my god, it started today.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
I am I'm just forgot it. For so long. I
just thought it either wrapped up or yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
It's crazy And what was the the craziest thing about
it is that, like we had a fan hook us
up with AOC's office, so we had her on first,
and I was so nervous about that. I was like
sweating through my clothes.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
Yeah, because we're we love her.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, she's smart, she's articulate.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Again, it's like, these are real people, they're funny, they're relatable.
And so then the vice like we're going up in
the elevator and I was like, I'm fifty four years old.
This is the peak of my life. Like everything downhill
from here. Yeah, I'm yeah, but I'm good with that.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Yeah. Yeah, we did it. We did it. Yeah, but
you know, it goes.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Back to the person that told us don't talk about
politics on your podcast, and both of us were kind
of like, you know what, that guy's kind of a schmuck.
You're the ones who we're going to face and it's
our podcast, right, And so we started speaking about how
much we support the LGBTQ plus community and how much
we support the black and brown community, and that we

(39:41):
believe black lives matter, and that we live in a
state where they have done a full abortion band in
red state Oklahoma. No, none, No, exception, you really want one,
you need one, No exceptions at all, even for medical
I mean it's very doctors are terrifying the pill to
We still have the pills, We still have the yeah plan,

(40:01):
we still have that.

Speaker 6 (40:02):
I'll have that. But I bought because I have a
college aged daughter, So I bought like ten boxes. Yeah,
because I was like, because that's the next thing.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
To go, you know, is that can you are you
allowed to travel to another state?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Do you have to do it on the down low?

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Oh? Really?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So it's like we've spoken about when Republicans get everything
they want. Look at Oklahoma. We have a Republican governor,
a Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican Supreme Court
on a state level, sure, and they have everything they want.
Were ranked forty ninth in education total abortion band. It's
the worst place in America for women to live. And

(40:37):
I know that the uh Talking to Death listeners are
thinking why the fuck do you all live there right now?
Because I'm painting such a great picture of it. But
it's we speak passionately about it, and it's because we
were true to ourselves that it was an unintended accident,
that a lot of LGBTQ plus people when they come

(40:59):
to our show come up to us and hug us
and say thank you so much for speaking out for
my community. My parents don't speak to me anymore.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
That's that's cool.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And my family, you know, I basically don't have a family,
aymore so I listen to you guys every Tuesday and Thursday,
and you're like my mom's And it was a beautiful
accent that happened because we were authentic. And I think
that it's hurt a lot of people's feelings because they
see us, these white women with these Southern accents of
a certain age, and they think that we're supposed to

(41:28):
be Bible thumpers and Republicans and submit to our husbands
and all that bullshit, and we're the opposite, you know,
We're like, fuck the patriarchy. And I think it's been
this very refreshing thing for a younger audience because we're
so shocked when we go to our shows at how
young our listeners are.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
We're dying.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
What is the age range? Like, do you have the data?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Eighteen to thirty five would be the biggest demographic.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Isn't that interesting? You think it would women like us.
And there are some and we welcome them and they say,
thank you, I'm just like you. Not all white women
are crazy blah blah blah, but the bulk of our
listeners are gen zers and millennials, and we're gen xers.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah, what's the what's the funniest hate you've received recently?
Well or is it two pg. Thirteen.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
Well, we get a lot of you're old, you have
too much botox, too much filler, you know, all those
kind of things that are after the Vice President Harris.
When we got a lot, it was they did a
segment on it on Fox News and so we get like,
you're ugly, you're a cow, you have too much beat
talks all the time, you're too opinionated. Whatever, that's just

(42:42):
like waking up in the morning.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
So that's just with your coffee, right, just Monday, Monday, Right.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
But we went into the office and it was like
NonStop prank calls, emails with death threat Yeah office. I
had to take the office phone off, which probably didn't
need it anyway, but that's obnoxious the hate mail, and
it was vicious, like different rape scenarios were laid out.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Are these death threats?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
And men like, so what happened? Everything would get the
random stuff like she's saying. But then Jesse Waters has
a show on Fox from seven to eight. The primetime
first ten minutes of a show of the Fox Evening
News was devoted to our interview with President Kamalin Harris.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
How nice.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
We were cracking up because I'm like, can you believe
that we're.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Just we're in them stories on Fox?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I mean, can you believe this shit? And then all
the death threats rolled out, and I'm just like, you know,
this is so typical. These are the people, are the
evangelical Christians. This is maga shit, And of course they're
given us death threats. But i mean, were we scared
of it? No? Do we lock the office door and stuff?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Now?

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Yeah? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (43:57):
Wow. That's just one.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
So what do you think, from like a psychology standpoint,
who is the kind of individual who sees this ten
minute sting at eight pm on Fox News and thinks
I'm going to pick up the phone look up their
number first of all, right, and then call and say
some fucked up shit about how I'll rape you or

(44:21):
something weird.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Okay, I'll walk you right through it. Please think you, okay,
the psychology behind the individual that does this, he would
tell you to your face, I'm an alpha male, but
everybody who knows him knows that he's not just a
beta male, but a zeta male and a total pussy,
a twat, a total twat who probably peaked in middle school.

(44:44):
He probably grew to it.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Did he ever even peak exactly? Did he even reach
a peak exactly?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
He probably is never given a woman an orgasm.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I mean that's not possible.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
He probably has a lot of guns, for sure, lots
of guns. Probably has a resting heart rate of one
fish dy to one seventy sitting down after two hours,
and probably has a lot of issues with authority, and
thinks that Donald Trump represents what a real man should be.
And you think about that, Donald Trump wears makeup every

(45:18):
single day and these and I have no issue with
people that were right, I have no issue with people
that wear makeup. I could give two ships. It's a
free country. But these are the guys. But to this
guy's guys, right, and that's their guy, like that is
their guy.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
And he probably hates gay people. He probably also pays
for gay porn, you.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Know, like totally grinder. Right, he probably has some you know,
gets blow jobs in a glory hule somewhere.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Fact, you know, we don't know if.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
It was a girl.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
All right, whatever, that's fine, but your behavior, right, I'm like.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Swing for the fences, go to all the glory holes
you want, but don't.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Be a hypocrite. Right.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Have you ever seen a gloryhole?

Speaker 6 (46:02):
I have one time? You have will Rogers Park. Isn't
it the whole Are you talking about the hole between
the stalls? Yes?

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Yeah, it was like a legit one.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
Yeah, because I was a divorce lawyer and I had
clients that they would be like I followed my husband
to will Rogers Park and everybody knows there's this park
in a Clama City that straight men go chock up
with gay men after work. And so one day I
was just I was, I was by myself. It was

(46:31):
before I knew you what, And so I went to
will Rogers Park just to check it out. And I
saw the glory holes, the whole.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Glory hole reconnaissance. Well, I was just like, how do
they pick people up? Like?

Speaker 6 (46:42):
I don't sell? Yeah, So I just was driving around
the lake because it's by the lake, and I just
thought I'll just roll in and it was probably like
ten o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Did anything come through the hole or no, nothing through
the whole.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
But yeah, I went in the men's bathroom to check
it out.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
You're out there scouting, not glory hole, right, it.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Was a set kid, So it's you're investigating gloryholes.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
I I'm an investigator at hard. I wish you would
have been an FBI agent.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I mean you could have been you found you found
found the glory hole. Yeah, I'll probably cut.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
This from my podcast, but I got to tell you
this funny story about a gloryhole. So there's this, there's this,
there's this tribute fague here.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
There's a Hibachi restaurant in Atlanta and it's kind of
on this sketch here part of town. And I was
just on a date with this girl and we were
just being goofy and there's like a like a sex shop.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Across the street.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
But let's just go walk in there and like just
look at all this stuff, you know whatever. Maybe we'll
buy something, maybe we don't. It's like it's kind of funny,
like it feels like we're being bad. Yeah, Well, downstairs,
they have this like club thing that We're like, okay,
what what is this all about?

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
You know, it's probably you know, some X rated shit
going on in there, but like, let's just go in
and go out, right, And so we go in there
and it's super dark, and all I see are the
scariest dudes I've ever seen on Earth walking around like
they just left like a biscuit concert.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
And it's like super scary. And she's the.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Only woman in sight. And so we just ducked off
into one of these little rooms you'd close the door,
and we're like, okay, it's just like think about this.
We started making out as kissing whatever, and it's crazy
shit happened. I was just, you know, looked over in
the corner of my eye. I saw something just poke
out and it was a penis and it came through

(48:38):
a hole. I somehow just didn't notice the hole in
the wall before.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
And I'm tapping her. I'm like I go.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
She's like what I go, And she's like, oh my god.
And I was like, we have to get out of here.
I need to get out of here quietly before I
even see who that was, right, I don't even to know,
And so we bailed but it's to this day a
very funny story. And there was and there was a

(49:08):
dickad Yeah, so I know it was. I know it's
glorial like his was.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
His glory whole way better story than yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
What do you think is just a universal thing left
and right that people could agree on? I have one, Oh, okay,
presidents under eighty.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, I think everybody could agree to it. I think
everybody could agree.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Mostly because you know, if you are driving a car,
like or you try to get your license at whatever age,
they're going to make sure you can be behind the
wheel a little.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Bit right, right. Eighty is different in different people, you know,
like look at Trump and Biden. I think the only
but two year age difference. Trump seems more alive and
with it some times if you just didn't listen to
what he was saying, because crazy seems more it's animatorergetic.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Yeah, of course, yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
More tempered and intellectual. But here's the regardless what we
have this election are to you know, eighty year olds
sadly right, and it makes me sad because.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
I got again, I know, I know, I know, what
does it say about us? That's again like they can't
do better. We just did this shit. Yeah, remember how
big of a deal that was when we did that
shit the first time? Why are we doing it again?

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah? I think mine would be and I don't know
Jennifer would probably You'll tell me if I'm wrong. But
like a competency test, like they have the physicals, but
like a mental cognitive test. I think everyone would agree
that that would be a good idea because, like you said,
if you're going to go higher for a job and
it was something intellectual and complex, you would think, Okay,

(50:59):
let's all agree to take a competency test. Maybe it's
on the top of my mind because I know Trump
couldn't pass one to save his life. I take Biden
all day long and twice on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But what do you think I mean, I think that
sounds okay. I mean I think that obviously we would
want them to be competent. It wouldn't have been a
point except for when we got Trump, because you would
think that if you go through the primary process, that
would eliminate incompetence, but in the case of Donald Trump,

(51:28):
it promoted his incompetence. If there is an issue that
every single person would agree upon. I mean, I would
like to think that it would be gun control, but
it's not. I would like to think that it was
that poor people could have access to healthcare, but it's not.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Free lunches for kids, free.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Lunches for kids, but it's not. It's everything. It just
seems as worse and worse as far as everybody has
to disagree on things. And I would think that maybe
everybody could agree on decency, but then I think decency
has become decency.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
That's what the person would Right, everything's politicized in a way.
That's that's the most non political thing ever.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
What do you?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
What are your thoughts on left and the right. I've
found it very interesting with all these UFO stories that
have been coming out in the mainstream, it seems from
my perception of it, that there's a lot more support
on the right from senators or congressmen. And I don't
know if it's just one of those things where it's

(52:37):
just part of the the mantra right where like they're
they're taking down the man or something like that, and
or I don't know, but it's like, if you really
look at it, all the most outspoken lawmakers and stuff
are usually Republican. And I don't know if that's just
a weird like data sample from right now for declassifying,

(52:58):
for declassifying, for you know, furthering the whistleblowers who have
come out, not just completely disregarding them.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Now now most of the people on the left have
either just not been present or not participated.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
What about what was the guy from Nevada, Harry Reid?
Harry Reid, he was the head of the Senate and
a big Democrat And.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
He's a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, big tech Yeah, okay, yeah, he was the head
of the Senate.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
There's it's there's a couple of people right now, like
the guy who reps Tennessee. What's that guy?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
So when we had AOC on our podcast, we asked
her who was her favorite Republican that she worked with,
and it's this guy. This guy she said, he's huge
UFO issue and she said he's hilarious and she really.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
He was saying funny shit like we likes him. Dylan
and I went to Congress for this UFO congressional hearing.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Yeah, I saw you on it because I was so proud.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
I was like, oh my gosh, pains at the cap
the boys in Congress. Yeah, it turns out you can
just bring cameras in there.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Really.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, it's easier than TSA. I mean, there was no
president in sight, so that might be part of it.
But yeah, he just would make these really funny like
he just sounds like one of my uncles who's just
saying shit but being poetic about it. Yeah, and kind
of noble shit. I don't know what he stands for

(54:21):
what he does, but he was entertaining in that way.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know. I
don't know what If it's more of a I would
think that you're probably going to get people from both sides. Yeah,
but I do know that AOC told us that that
guy was her favorite Republican coworker that she works with,
and she said he's big on the UFO issue. She said,

(54:44):
he's hilarious, he's fun to work with, their great friends,
and he doesn't get any further left than AOC, right,
and so yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
What's AOC stance on that stuff?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Yeah, we didn't get in.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
So he's commented a few times online about I guess
things that were obviously weird or you know, secrets that
were clearly being kept from you know, the public.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Have you gotten any indication that, like in a hundred
years they'll release it or they're just planning on never
releasing anything.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
I think that if there is some big government secret
about UFOs and aliens and the fact that we know
for sure they exist and.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Or have their craft or bodies here on earth.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Somewhere, I think one if that is true, it's in
some black vault, black department that is within the government
in some sort of way. Not in some conspiratorial way,
I mean like in like the depths of Clearance, and
not everybody is privy to that. And I think that

(55:52):
there is honestly no good motivation for them to ever
come out and say anything.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Think about it. Yeah, they gain nothing thing.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
What do they gain besides it being the right thing
to do us knowing the truth? They don't gain anything.
They spoil any sort of like military tactics they could
use about Is that a UFO or is that ours?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Is it both? Is it? You know? Does Russia think
that we do have these things and we don't or
we do? Are we going to tell them that we do?
Do they have them?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And it's like it's a weird mind game kind of
thing that is easier just don't touch it. And then
what is going to happen for some people if their
entire belief system is rocked a little bit by thinking
that they were created by Adam and Eve and there
turns out to be all these other different extraterrestrial races

(56:49):
that have existed for millions of years, it's so fat
where do we fit into that?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
And they're surely a way, But I don't think that's
what people have grown up up and told themselves when
they go to bed every night. So I think that
for some people that will be a thing. But I
also think that the younger generation doesn't give a shit, right,
So you know, I think it eventually.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Has to topple over.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I always I think, yeah, I always think that if
this was all bullshit, If it was all bullshit, then
why are we still.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Talking about it?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Right?

Speaker 6 (57:20):
Wouldn't persist this law?

Speaker 5 (57:21):
You have debunked all these things that we couldn't find
or thought were true and weren't.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
The thing that always sticks out to me, but even
before I listen to your podcast series on it and
after are the expert like the pilots and the people
in the military that know the difference between the two
and know because I wouldn't know if I looked up
in the sky somebody said, look, that's a UFO and

(57:48):
is an airplane probably? Oh yeah, I totally see it.
I mean the power of suggestion. I could be really
susceptible to that in a moment if you're drunk or
high or whatever. And but that's really compelling. But I
think the question is at that point, are they manned?
Are they unmanned? You know, there's so many different facets
that could be, but they're After I listened to your podcast,

(58:11):
I went on YouTube and looked at some stuff and
it's the ones that are credible to me are the
military sidings. And so I really want you to do
a round two.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
We're definitely gonna do a second se It was so good.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I mean, I'm assuming that not everything in the sky
is a drone military or not. Even if they are drones,
there's a human somewhere, you know, telling it what to do, right, right,
So these F eighteen pilots who see these things, they
are the people who would be manning those vehicles. So
it's that that's ironic to me that they would think

(58:44):
this is odd, right when these are the most skilled
pilots in America arguably on Earth, right, and they don't
know what it is. That either means that it's not
ours and it is weird, or there's buddies of theirs
that they don't know. They are just as skilled who
are flying those things and not this old piece of shit.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
Yeah, gas goes exactly. So I don't know, but yeah,
i'd like to think that those people know what they're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, And I just think, you know, when you think
about how massive the universe is and this little blue
dot that we have, of course, if you there's something
more out there, the question is can do they have
the technology? And are they further advanced than we are
to travel? And I mean look at the last hundred

(59:34):
years of technology, I mean just in our lifetime, right, Yeah,
you know, it's crazy, and so I mean, I don't know.
I hope it's true, but I hope that they don't
want to kill us and take our resources that way.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
You don't now real annoying you right sleeve us over here.
We can't. We haven't even seen you guys. The whole time, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I mean I think that we learn every year just
how much bigger the universe is, how much older it is,
adding years to it. It seems like it's just infinite here.
You know, I don't see us hitting the Truman Show wall.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
At some point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So I think that just statistically, life being elsewhere has
to exist. The question is, more so, have they ever
been here? Or any of these stories of people's encounters
with UFOs and aliens here on Earth true? And if
they're not, I think it's just as strange that we've

(01:00:33):
gotten to a point in our own intelligence where we
know that that's possible and convinced ourselves that that's happening,
and it isn't when it can and probably will Like
whoa what? Like?

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Are we just that imaginative? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
But that to me is just as weird, if not weirder,
than the reality of No, some people saw that shit
and it is real, right right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, kind of exciting to me.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
I mean, I think, you know, like my great Green
kids could have a completely different experience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
I mean, I hope.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
So, I mean I think that because we all assume,
based on alien Sigourney Weaver, that they're out to get
as or killing, but it might be like they might
be smarter and have better ways.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I don't get really cute, like you know, tell a
tubby looking right, they walk slow and they're like, oh
what Yeah, you want them as a pet, like they'd
be cute.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
You asked me on your podcast if there was a big, hot, green,
busty alien, Yeah, you know, would I hit it?

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
First of all, duh, because just like if that's Mike
Keith Morrison, that's fine, Like you have to do it
for the story, Like, right, I would. I could never
live with myself knowing every night that I passed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
On that, right, So would you? Though?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
What I have sex with an alien?

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
It was this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Hot, chiseled Keith Morrison esque in his forties Clint Eastwood
Clint Eastwood style. If okay, you can pick his skin
color green, blue, you know, yellow, pink.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I don't know if I would or not. I didn't.
I don't have to be a media it's no STDs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Yeah, it's clean, there's no you're not gonna get sick.
I mean, well, sign nda, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I don't know. You immediately were like yes, And I
think that's the difference probably between men and women because
from a biological standpoint, men are all about breads and seed.
Women are all about protect the egg. And my egg
protection thing just kind of like came in and you're like, yeah,
spread the seed immediately, like you know, I will live
on the cave man to infinity and beyond. Right, I

(01:02:56):
don't know, would you hit it? In alien totally hit it? Look,
I have dad, But she went to a gloryhole, so
there's no shock. There pumps out there going to gloryholes,
fucking aliens who knew pain.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
That's so the egg protection, I've never heard it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Men are spread the seed, protect the egg.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Yeah, we like doing that, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
But that was my immediate like like animal instinct was yeah,
like I don't know, like it was a I felt
like a protection thing and that's a primal evolutionary thing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Yeah, my instinct was also instinctual, and I wanted to
protect this alien to the crib.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Spread your seed politely, you know, like you see yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
And ask her how od day's going?

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
That's really yeah, I know I thought I felt like
egg protection mode, but I don't know, I don't know
if I would or not. I mean, if it was
like a super hot like like there's another person that
genuinely is incredibly hot, uh that I really like. And
I like these all tennis players a lot. If he
was like an alien hot tennis player, I think I
could probably hit it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Yeah, they're always pretty dudes. Yeah yeah, total yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I mean I say this because I think that it
will never happen. There's also a really good chance that
I'd be so fucking scared. I'd be like absolutely not,
like i'd have nightmares and like I would of course,
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I don't know, like what species is it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
They're a humanoid. They look like humans. They got bigger everything,
if you know what I mean, right and arms, fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, feet, yeah, penis.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
Penis is bigger, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
And they're they're mammals. Yeah, they just have a little
weird like bigger eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
They got longer fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah. I think I'm out. I think I'm out on
alien set now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I think it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
I think you would kick yourself, just like he was
saying every day, like, oh my god, Angie fucked the
alien and I didn't announced she's talking about it, and
I wish you would have done it, just for like
just to have it in your book like I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
I think I'd just let you take the alien you
wud do. Yeah, well I'll take it. I'll take one
for the two you can. You can have the alien
sex maybe in the glory Hole in wool Rogers Park
that you drive.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Here's the thing about this whole analogy is that that
could happen tonight, right, Like an alien could come knock
on your hotel room and you're like, you know what
I'm doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
No one's going to believe you, So you could never
really tell the story.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Right, you'd be crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Someone would believe you, right, right, but no one that
mattered If I told you that you wouldn't believe me, Like, oh.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Pain, he jumped off the Deep Strange podcast too much?

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
Yeah, So are you excited about this live tour? How's
that been? Doing this stuff? Like doing it live?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
The live tour has been incredible. I Mean we were
the first one that show that we had was in Atlanta.
You were there, we were about to shit our pants.
We were terrified. And now we've done like close to
thirty and in Canada, the UK, in the United States. Yeah,
and it's been so fun. We have like at the
end of the show of VIP Meet and Greet, and

(01:06:14):
we have been so pleasantly surprised that we have positively
impacted people's lives because the podcast premise has a negative premise.
I've had it, but we do advocate for things that
we passionately believe in, what's you're human rights, social justice,
and so there's been this pleasant surprise of people who
are deeply impacted by the stuff that she and I

(01:06:37):
say And that wasn't the intent. It was like this
beautiful accident, and so that's been really cool. And to
connect with people in person. Probably you've experienced this from
your podcast, Like they spend a lot of time with you,
and it's intimate time, they're getting ready, right, yes, and
it's impactful in their lives. And then if I think
back to like when I listen to your podcast, you know,

(01:07:00):
it's like you really played a big role in many
of my days when I listened to it, right, Oh, you're.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Boring days exact car rides.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Exactly, but those are sometimes the best days. Yeah they are,
you know, we're sure happens, right. So I've just we've
enjoyed it so much and we were surprised. We enjoyed
it so much.

Speaker 6 (01:07:20):
Yeah, well, meeting the people, I mean, it feels like
a community and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
It could be like anxiety inducing, but really it's kind
of like a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
It's yeah, and typically we don't like to meet new
people or talk to people.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
No new friends.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, and when we meet these people, I've really enjoyed it,
and they'll say to us, so have you had it
with this VIP line? And I'm like, actually I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
That's actually what a great cheat code because like you
can always be like you have had it with this ship,
I've had it with this drink.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
I've had it right, yeah, line out here. Yeah exactly.
That's amazing. So what's next for you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Okay, So we have kind of like developed our YouTube
some and we have on Mondays and Fridays where all
we do and it's YouTube only, is talk about politics.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
So we can kind of get that nice dive yeah
first into it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
So we do like twenty minute episodes. It's called I
Hip News. So I've had it podcast News.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
You have to go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
You'll like a lot of Trump bashing, a lot of
discussion about Republican Cannibalism, which is one of our favorite
things to view where they start kind of eating each
other and they're not the same team.

Speaker 5 (01:08:32):
Yeah, that one. I don't remember that one under the
restaurant or I don't remember yet.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Yeah, So we have that going. We were built a
Patreon and I think we're going to take a pause
from touring for the summer and then in January our
plan is to tour Australia. So between now and January
we are going to full blown pander to the country
of Australia on our podcast to get them all engaged.

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
Yeah, I'm all for it. I've never been. We haven't either.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I almost did a show there a couple of years
ago and then it just didn't work out. But there's
there's a huge, like American audience there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yes, yeah, we have a lot of listeners there and
so we just think that would be so fun and amazing.
I want to go to the Australian Open which is
in January. I want in time at all. Did should
go with us?

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
That would be amazing. Are you still going to Europe
this summer?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
When are you all going again?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
First week of June? Okay, and then to Italy?

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
That might be when we go, so I'll definitely opinion you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Oh my gosh, yes, yeah, and like Paris actual.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
We haven't decided yet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
We have flights booked to Amsterdam currently, but we could
change it around whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
It's whatever. Its just easier to fly direct there from Atlanta.
But yeah, it'd be so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
So Australia, that's what we want to do. We want
to call it the Brecky Tour because that's what they
call breakfast.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
I call it by and so you're just being.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
I did it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I've had it, like I've had it with people calling
breakfast break I.

Speaker 5 (01:10:02):
Say what I'm like, annoyed, well, little bricky, Yeah, I'm
fucking hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah yeah exactly. Then the Daily Mail, So then the
Australians come and like flood our, oh wow, social media
like we call it Australia. We call it breaky in Australia.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
Blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
And so then somebody sends me a Daily Mail article
and it's like American podcaster pisses off entire country and
it's a picture of me and the whole country's pissed,
and I post it and then they all are like,
we have such thick skin we love this ship. Blah blah,
you need to come down here. So that's what kind
of prompted it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
So the Australian opened didn't hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, and they've had it with a lot of ship
so you have dry senses of huge.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
They're very yeah, stuff that we like around here. Yes, exactly.
Are you going to any Okay Sea games?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yes? Yes, so we'll be going to Okay See games.
Pumps goes to quite a few years now. They're in
the playoffs and it's big time in the Big Open.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
And Oklahoma City's credit. You know, we're a super small market. Yeah,
but we watched the highlights this morning because we were
asleep because it started late. But everybody wears the shirt
like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:11:10):
One hundred for Diepard in there for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, participation. You look at that, you look at like
an LA And some people are too cool to put
on the shirts, the playoff shirts, But in okay See,
everybody puts on the shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I do not like it though, at just random sporting
events where they just wear just a sports jersey, a
random Yeah, like it's a a have.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
You had it with that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:31):
I have had it with that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
You're going to but you're talking about are non athletes
wearing a jersey to a sporting event.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
The highlights nothing to do with the sport, right, the
wrong sports Like you go to it, call it a.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
NBA Celtics playoff game and you're wearing a Patrick Mahomes right,
it makes it's like, okay, I.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Guess because it's sports. It's like that just is so stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
This is a great events I can lean into. I
love nuanced grievances.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
It's like a big deal. But like, no, but I love.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I would have been like, this is kind of dumb
right before I left. Right, he's not here tonight. I'm
not even the same state. It's so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
This is not even a football game.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
Yeah you know what I'm saying. It makes no sense
to me, right yeah, me and my guy friends.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
So it's like there's a there's a hockey game, and
everybody's walking into where we are right now, the garden
in Boston.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
It looks like me going to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Does It would be like me walking in there wearing
a Shay gilligis Alexander jersey to a hockey game.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Yes, I agree, I've had it with that. Yeah, that's
a great one. Yeah, why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
That is great.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Just wear a normal wear a regular shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah, be a normal person. We're trying to showboat neck
like an athlete when you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
How you're into this ship clearly not totally. Would you
guys have me on your show again and I would
go there?

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
It'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
No, you have to come.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
I thought, there's like so much more to catch up
on off my own. I've had it is ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Yes, we'll have you back on and we need to
maybe you can come back in the playoffs. Yeah, be
super fan.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Honestly, Like, I want to go to a playoffs game,
and I've always tried to go to an Okay See
game and either when I was there, they weren't they
were playing away. Yeah whatever, But I would be like
me and Mike would definitely let's go to the game.
Great and like do the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, We'll
just people to go all the way so we have
all the time in the world to figure out.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
Right. I was gonna say, you know, after last night,
it's I don't know, hopefully we'll be there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
For a couple more fingers cross I'm written for him. Yeah, Weston,
this has been such a blast like this. I mean,
I'm so glad that we're here. At the same time,
I was literally hitting you guys up to come to
Atlanta potentially, and I realize.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
You're going to be here and I'm here, So this
is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's so great. We always see Pain in the best places. Okay,
see Atlanta, Austin, and now Boston. Yeah, and really, you
were our first podcast friend, and your first podcast friend
is always going to be your best, most quaint.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
That's rights special.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
So when I see that you text me, I'm always like, oh, Pain,
I have such a fondness for you because you reached
out to us when we were little baby girl podcasters
and you flew out and it was just the biggest
deal for us with the biggest such a ship. It
was such a big deal for us. So I always
have the biggest affection for you forever.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
Well, they always welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Also, I want to come back and see just your
studio again, because like we did a walk through today
with a interior designer. So I should send you this
a little link to my house and you tell me
what you think. Oh yeah, yeah, I know your services
are probably not cheap, but like what you thought, just
like because it's built in seventeen seventy six and it's
like brand new everything inside. That's all this character and

(01:14:35):
that's great cool shit to lean into. Yeah, trying to
build a speakeasy upstairs, like where my studio is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Love, you just have to come out. Yeah, we'll come back.
I love Boston, so easy to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Awesome. Well, let's plan an okay sea trip. Yes, let
us know, see y'all soon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Thanks paying, Thanks Pa.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Talking to Death is a production of Tenderfoot TV and
iHeart podcast created and hosted by Payne Lindsay. For Tenderfoot TV,
executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright. Co executive
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