GEORGE WALLACE & MYRA J in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast - The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You mean your dad looked just like you. I look, Mama,
don't push me. Hey man, today the past. All right,
you're getting to.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man, play me some old schools. Play me some old
school right now.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
You got some old school Come on, man, don't just
be wearing a fuzzy half for nothing.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
DC. We got the triple Old G's, we got trip
Triple o G.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Holidays just passed and we had you know, it's some
family members left over in Atlanta, so we had to
call around. Really, now, these people we got on here
the day, was they hard to book? I'm talking about
real old g We're talking about representing Atlanta all over
the world.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Talk most ship than everybody up here.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Go buy in his head, real legend in the comedy.
We got nothing other than mister George Wallace.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
And miss this comedy legendary right here.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
As you know that we all we didn't even try to.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Right washing.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Me? Was that our introduction? That's you? Now? Let me okay,
do you say that, Miss Marria Jay, But let me
say this. You guys have no idea how happy we
are to be with you young guys. We've been watching
y'all do y'all little bullshit acting that I've worked with
him on the road and he going killed and stuff,

(01:45):
and it's just good to be with you and see
you and to see this operation. And my young black
people are doing it. Say, y' all young black people say,
I'm eighty eight years old tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
You was eighty eight, nast year.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
You sick your punk, I'm eighty eight, eighty eight and
I'm blessed Ryan right, still making it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's amazing, that's boom.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I'm sixteen. I'm sticking with it because my grandkids watching right, Yeah,
they and they're like, ah, she's lying ya sixteen, and
they as well, how can you mean to tell them?
Because scientists are studying me. It ain't ever happened before.
You're talking here. Yeah, And i'mna be sixteen again next year.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You're gonna be wild.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I'm sticking. If your ass can be eighty eight again,
I can be sixteen again.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Sixteen. Yes, you you You can't even turn that around
and be right. You can't even turn that around and
be right.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Oh man, let me talk about each other.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Talk shit man, And.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
We're like to apologize. Janey Browning down here because he's sick.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Ok, he got the ain'ting too much of that damn
hot sauce.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
He got the main he got the main. No, he
got the you know what the main.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
All I said that what he got right?

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You know, so much scratching right like he was. You
know he'd be breastfeeding. He still.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
The flavors of hot salt.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Oh, ain't talking about I thought you're talking about your nephew.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
What nephew? Oh no, you know, old people just be talking.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
You know, you got the maize.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
There's something wrong with you, right, I'm disagreeing with them, damn.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Said ja, don't put your foot on my punsure.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
They all the rules because we're right.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I know. It was just just relax. Oh no, we're
spending fire.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Doing We're just happy to be here. You guys saying
we don't even know what to say.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
We're just First off, I want to say, y'all are
some icons, man. You dig what I'm saying, Like legends
in the game. Man, It's a privilege that I even
I take those moments, especially when I go.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
On the road with the veterans.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I like to call y'all like seize and vets. You
know what I'm saying I watched y'all and watched all
the movies. I'm saying, so for for me to even
be on the same stage, to even share it.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
One time, I didn't be so grateful.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
When I be thankful, I'll be like, you know what,
I know, this is where God wants me to be like.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
And then I look at longevity.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, they don't even be I'd be like, man, they
still cross paths with me, They still they like they
own it.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
So it's like a lot of people don't get a
chance to do it.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So it just it just be an honor.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, that's how we feel about working with the young people.
To go on that stage and see you after. And
I'm standing on the side watching everything he does and
I'm just going and it just kill it. And can
I get pissed off? Because sometimes you can get more
last than I do it. I don't like that. I
don't like it.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
The first O G that ever said when I came
out of stage, he said, God damn it.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
A little motherfucker fuer in Washington d He's a love
it though.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
He said, keep killing. He said, keep going.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
And even you know, a lot we don't be getting
embraced like that song. You know what I'm saying, That's
why I love the journey that that God allowed me
to be on, because the bitch that I had come
across the shoulder, Like even with Colowns, he didn't have
to come bring me on the road with him or
say come on, like.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's my first question. I'm gonna know, why the fuck
did you ask him to come out with you on
the road?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I was on social media right this was he
was blowing up.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Everybody wanted to who is this guy? He got one
of his very first interviews he did. They said which
comedians do you like? He said my name first, and
I pulled up on him and we've been that's.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So cool brothers ever since that.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
So he said, anybody right there, but for him to say.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
That we are kind of different. We embrace your social media.
Say you young kids think on.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Social media, you say some funny ship, But what funny ship?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Even good? Up early in the morning relationship three o'clock
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'll straight up cut butter with a state knife and snake.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't give a ship exactly.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Don't go to bed, Georgia up texting us all damn night,
like when do you sleep.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Like you do know that ship, don't you. I'll pick
my teeth with an ice picking pick, ice with a toothpick.
I don't give a shit. I eat cupcakes out of
a pan and pancakes out of a cup. I don't
give a ship now, right now, right now.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And I was in Cleveland one night and I told
the people, I'll drink a half a glass of whole
milk and a whole glass of half and half. I
don't give a ship. A lady way back in the
back sits much wow, real loud. If you drink and
half a glass of whole milk and a whole glass
of half an hour, she said, you might not give a.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Ship, but but you gonna take one.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
And it's still when people are on their shout out
something and I don't care who gets the laugh. It
doesn't bother me. I'm the one taking the check on.
You don't get on the laugh you on. I just
love it and just hang out with you got just
being here. You don't know how we feel.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
I just love to see people keeping black comedy alive.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
That's good too live.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
That's the cool thing because we love everybody but ain't
nothing like a black audience. When black folks love your ass,
they gonna let you. They're gonna slap the they're gonna
flip the table over and just act.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
For damn one is the nigga that get up and
run out the club, don't.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
We can't sit show a laugh and we got to move.
You got the grabs. You know, Sometimes I see the
lady grabbing that stuff to you. That's when you don't
know what they grab it. That's when you know your
ass good. When the lady when.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
We gotta be.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
That's a laugh. I like sometimes I see your laughing.
After all, go into the buster's ass.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
And you know me nothing here, be like, man, you
just gotta let him do that. But see, I'm grateful
to even have that sense of human Well, when the
lamb take over, you just gotta let it. You gotta
let it take it course, like, don't try to stop it.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Then I love it when they not on the table,
don't even care that it like they drinks over and
flip the plate of wings.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I gotta hit something like I gotta be gotta.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I have to run. I have to run. You know
when I was a kid, doesn't not I used to
fall on the floor, and that's me. Something was wrong
with me long time ago. I've been I've been, always
been off balance with that. You know I could have
I could have set open that show. But I don't
have to sit here. I drove. Let me tell you something.
I drove all the way from Atlanta. Who telephone is
still on? That? Ain't mine ship? Let me turn mine

(08:31):
off to telephone my telephone something. I lost my telephone.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Bro that house on a little.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You really you got jokes? Huh talking my my phone?
My mama still got a roller. The telephone on the
wallsn't get get get gig, get get, get, get gig.
If you dot an eight hundred, imber, you can walk
over there by the time you finish downar that damn number.
Get that game. Let me turn my phone off because
I'm talking to the big shop. Question number.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
He don't he don't know, ain't no question.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
No, I got a question. What year did you start
doing comedy? Both of y'all.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
What I'm saying eight? I got to make up another
line and go back.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
For me.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
For me, I don't remember. It was the early eighties
that I do know. But I was voted the most
humorous female of my senior class talk. And back in
the day, they were not encouraging black women to go
into comedy. We had to be social workers and school
teachers and nurses, and so that's what I did. I
was a social worker for years until this guy. He

(09:38):
took me to the comedy store in Los Angeles. I
had never ever, ever been to a comedy show. And
I saw like twelve white boys grow up. And I
looked at him and I said, I can do that.
He was like, no, these are professionals. I don't care.
I'm telling you I can do that. That was on
a Saturday night. I went on stage two nights later.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I loved you and stuff at the comedy Oh oh, Robin.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Was my I stand up all stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Are you experience those moment?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh that's amazing because you you all are young, said,
I started, and I was doing comedy probably eleven years
before you were born. I started nineteen seventy six. How
long is that? He was like, twenty five.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
See, I'm the whole nigga to them. Is that right now?
I feel good?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, it's good. Sometimes being old you learn a lot
of shit. And when I started. When we started. By
the way, you guys really haven't made We don't have
three TV stations, three NBC, ABC and CBS, and now
we had to groom ourselves for that. So we were
very clean. So were not like you guys are going
the streets. Thank god that the back when HBO came on.
What was the name of the first show came Jeff

(10:44):
jam came on, and now you guys were able to
express yourself. And I was a Christian comedian for forty
seven years until last year. I started cussing.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Now, what made you start cussing?

Speaker 5 (10:54):
He ran out of words.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Do you want to know the truth?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And the reason I started cussing was that may have
been here and a half when we were on the
phone together when Will Smith uh slapped him. When Will
Smith slapped Chris Rock, That's when I started cussing because
I was hurt so badly. So Chris Rock is like
my son in New York City. He grew up watching
us in the club and he just if he read
his he offic said, I just want to be like
George Wallers. That's what he always want to say. I
know his mama, his found and all like that, and

(11:20):
Then at first I thought, like everybody start, that got
to be planned. But when he hit him and then
walked off, I'm going like we weren't up on him,
and we started crying, and I was just gonna. I
was mad. I didn't know what to say because I'd
done it, and Will Smith has been my friend for
many here, I've done his show and everything like that.
But at that time that preacher gone, no he still
now he ain't a good okay. So I was so mad.

(11:42):
I was crying. All I could do, I said, Will Smith.
That's when I started cussing Will Smith.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I was mad.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
They were the phone, I said. Then I was so mad.
I said, fuck all the Smith, fuck Will Smith, fuck
his wife, Jane g I, Jada Jones fuck, I said,
fuck them too, little word ass kids. I said, funk
all this Smith, fuck Brandy Smith, fuckers, Grandma. Fuck all
this now, I said. I said, funk all that, but
all the black Smith. Fuck the locks. Now, mister Smith

(12:12):
goes to Washington. Fuck that movie. Smith's on the initial
dres said all the smithy Smith. I said, all this
Smith and mis Smith at the diasts got boy stephen
a Smith. You fuck him. But all the smiff fucker.
And then I did some research and I found out
that smith is the number one name in America. And
now if I happen to do that bit, I'll say

(12:33):
it's the number one name in America. And I said
Andy Smithson in there it is a way and I just, yeah,
I said fuck you too. So that's when I started cussing.
But I changed it because of uh walker flocker playing
my found another word, So I use walker flocker now
instead of uh fuck walk block. Yeah, walker flucker, Oh yeah,
walker flocker. You know you ain't cussing, but you know

(12:54):
it's close enough. Yeah, you just say to yourself walker
flu that that's what I said. Because I'm at church Sunday.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
You ain't nothing but walked up.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You're definitely walking. I'm d c. I'm at church sunning.
My bish walked up in the pool pen and I said,
look at this. My bishop in the church thought, some
bitch hold that year she found you. But that's when

(13:38):
I started, cause I love and I'm a good cut.
I'm gonna catch up. Man, you don't catch up with
my cussing.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
But you know what, this is why we appreciated and
the youngsters gotta understand and gotta have appreciation and understand
the value of what was done before them. That's why
I only think I know for a fact when it
comes to the comedy, I must spec and understand who
did it before me? Just like you said, y'all had

(14:03):
three TV shows right now, stations the three stations even,
and they went off at eleven, right.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yep, yep, So you had the same time to go
off and just drink into a little We were trying
to go to bed. Was talking about it.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
So think about the limit.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
On top of the restrictions and the limitations, we got
so many DSPs. Now we can go on YouTube issues.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Yes, tik tok, we can be coming me.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Here tonight if we want to.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
What they've done put us in the game.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Did y'all see it getting to this point where we
had no idea?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Just what has been fifteen years ago? We just got
a telephone. This thing right here is you know, I'm
not married, right, but this is my wife right here.
She can do anything I need done, anything I need done.
Put that got in my hand right now. This telephone
is amazing thing. When I grew up, when we grew up,
we had uh Uh, we couldn't even if wanna gol

(15:07):
fly somewhere. Y'all not gonna believe this, cause y'all were young.
We went out to the airport, bought a ticket, went
back home to day we was gonna fly, and we
didn't get a seat until we walked up to that
gate and walked on the plane. And now you can
do all the and order your food on this thing
in your hand. Right now, I can buy anything I
want all over the world. I can buy a car
anything I want. This is the best wife. You didn't

(15:32):
do anything with that, So this probably is the greatest
inventure of all time. I would think, I don't know
what you think of.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Just to see.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Times of change and especially the elevation, how was it
for you to adjust? Like you know what you've done
before and now you see what's about to come before
you now, so it's like, oh, it's easy to adjust,
but you see the other community that not just.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
My right, w It is not easy adjusting because you guys,
it's in your blood. You grew up probably with the
computer in your hand. So as you get older, as
you guys used to make the joke about your grandpapa
can't even operate the video machine back and then you'll
make jokes like that. Well that's kind of like us
in a way. We can't go to I can, but
I don't do it enough. I'm just starting today to

(16:17):
really get into TikTok a little more. I wanna talk
about the ship I bought today. Of course I'm every night.
I just buy ship on Amazon. I don't ship on
no t move.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's young that's for young people.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
You ever buy that ship on T move?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
You can't do t I keep trying to tell this,
Why are my nieces and anybody because I got to that.
Let me tell you what your.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Language we gotta appreciate over there.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Excuse me? P h U c K that all right now?
Before they even had t mud just ordering stuff from China. Right,
you see your dress se right, okay, we I'm gonna
get an extra extra extra large while you get that
shit from China. To be this big, you have to

(17:11):
wear it as a headband. This damn bit. You can't
order shit from China. You get what you paid for.
I don't understand why these people think that they can
get a whole bedroom except for ninety nine suits.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
You can't buy shit on TV. If I was telling
her driving I'm gonna stop buying sh it on sale.
I ain't lying. I even bought some crackers. You know
what I'm time. When I was crackers, get them on sale.
They already cracked China. Everything you try to buy it. Listen,
you don't buy cheap shit. You ross in those places
when we used to go to get cheap ship, and
you get home and you get fun underneath you. It's
something torn under that, something like I'm about everything I'm

(17:48):
buying from not gonna be full priced. I mean that's
what I say.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm like saying I'm gonna sell.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Fiend you like to buy shit off that table.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Listen, I know ten the thirst story right now that
I know when I walk in through all this ship mine,
I let you buy it.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
You like that, I take it?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So do you buy every night online?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Also?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
No, I love that.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't like the online because it's like you really
don't know what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yes, the hell you do.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
You can look at some ship compas on the now
where you can look at it at your house. Whatever
you looking at that ship, say, show it in your room, nigga,
you can playing the whole ship and now they got a.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Whole visual of why you have a whole ceiling fan
hung it up in that like, Nope, I won't find you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You hung it up. You did it go something? Okay,
you said you did well, you said you did you
said I hung it up?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Doesn't up virtually?

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, I don't know what that means. But I mean
you can look at it on you if you can
look at YouTube and put it up the room. Yeah, okay,
are you really that's how they paint your house. Before
you paint that you can see it on Yeah, you
can see your walls already. Yeah. I'm learning from you. Yeah,
I'm learning. But y'all learning a lot from us to
like us first comedically, So I'm the first one of

(19:05):
the first blacks to go into a room and say
I want all of the door and some of the drinks.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, when was.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
That moment when you realize this is how it got
to be done? Because you seeing now that black comedians
is getting taken advantage of.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Well, first of all, it all came from I'm a
business person, So you want I got out of I
wanted to be a comedian since six years old, and uh,
doing that and I had listened to so much from
vaudeville and and all of the older guys, and they
sometimes starved being a comedian. I wasn't gonna have that shit.
So I knew I had to go. We're the first
generation of comedians that I went to college, right and so,

(19:43):
and I got out of with a degree in marketing
and advertising and transportation, and I knew what I wanted
to do. I had to make a lot of money
and uh, and that's when I had the business sense.
Then I did. Well, let me tell you, when I
go out of college, I saw rags. I sold real rags.
I sold the sham Wow when it didn't even have
a name. I sold real rags. I used to sell
ship like what you got on right now? That ship

(20:17):
I sold real you've seen real rags at the gas
station they wiped the cart. I sold those rags. I
used to walk in with a little a pen like this,
but it was a scale and I could wave the
rags how much they would pay for rags, and I
had to do fractions in my head, and I could
sell a brand new rag to them, reusable like the
sheamua is and sell that instead of selling on like

(20:38):
a piece of old shirt, like I got on and
I sold that. I sold rags, and I was selling
to in New York City, and you'd be surprised. My
first year, I was a little black kid out of college,
maybe like thirty five thousand dollars my first year. This
is back in nineteen seventy two. It was a lot
of money. But I was all about it because I

(20:59):
want to be a me now. Don't give a shit
about making that kind of money. And when I stopped
and I want into advertising. I was the vice president
of the world's largest outdoor advertising agency. I'm sure you've
been to New York City see the Times, squab on
the billboards and spectacles, and I get all those billbo
office vice president of that and the guy when that ball,
crystal ball drops every year. A guy from Atlanta, his
name was Douglas Lee invented that ball. And when he

(21:20):
used to go to New York City in town State Street,
the smoke coming out of the cigarette and the coffee.
So his name was Douglas Ley. He invented that. So
then I started selling advertising and I make tons of money.
In seventy five seventy six, like seventy five thousand dollars
here there and as a little black kid. But what
I wanted to tell some jokes. I ain't give a
shit about making that money because I'm gonna make money

(21:42):
either way. What what we do, people don't understand it.
It's not about money. The bottom line is to get
up there and see happy people. And when you see
happy people, it's a drug. It is a drug. It's sex.
And then when people say, if I can do it,
you can do it. I don't never tell you I

(22:03):
can't get up in the in the poor pittan preach
like that man over there, and accountants with numbers and
ship like that. We can't. You can't do what I
do because all I do and I thank God, preach,
I'm glad you're here because I'm the most successful person
you have ever met. And and how much money you make,
that's how you enjoy your life while you're living. And
I and I love it and I and I and
I thank God for what I do. And I'm choking

(22:24):
up right now because all I do is lie. I
just make up shit. I just love to lie. I
just love to make up ship and just and it's fun.
Theause life is a lie. We'll talk about it in
a minute, because you do. There's a lie involved somewhere.
I ain't lying. You think I'm lying. I can tell
you when you have a chief Kape factory that ain't
no fucking factory. That's a restaurant in Santa Claus. It

(22:50):
started as we were kids. You can just go on.
Everything is a lie. You name anything, there's a lie
attached to it.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I can told my Dawn today, ain't no damn Santa
claud You you can't do that. Yes, I can guess
you can because I told her. I said, baby, let
me tell you why I'm not lying to you. And
then wait till you twelve thirteen to be like, all right,
you remember I've been lying to you all the year.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Ain't no damn Santa Clause.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
And then I'm tall. You just cheap. That's why you
don't want to let that baby. No Christmas.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I want to think that this white fat man, Mam, honey,
god damn anything, he.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Could be black now this is a new day, or
that niggas in the middle of the row.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
He ain't doing he said, the scrim the middle on him.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ain't the ship.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
He can say that in outlanda he's definitely blacking Atlanta.
He's blacking outlanda because some black people are here. But
I've been winning the mall.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Now anybody taking picture of cloud in the month and
some kids up the play up.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
The game there the speed sat the cloud down the
line in what I get off?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Like one song on he he said, hold, he's like
ho all y'all he talking. He talking to some when
they say home about home, come over here. That's why
I believe. Don't believe.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
I don't give it. Damn check, don't change. We don't
care kids, we don't care.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
But every time you every time you open your mouth,
there's a pretty much a lie around the corner somewhere.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Can't wait.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
What we grew up with? The line? You know what
the even you grew up? Then we used to clean
our ears or what a Q tip? Now what do
they say? Oh god, what you don't do that? No more,
h don't do that, don't do everything? Is that? That?
That's they got something new. You're twisting everything. One vitamins.
One of the vitamins. Read the direction. What does it say?

(24:38):
Take two? It's all bullshit, it's all but you can
go down the line. It's all but I do I
do in the hour. That's stuff every night, all the
lines in life.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
I do a bit about the vix vapor rub. Remember
vix vapor rub. Everybody's sick. They put the vic vapor.
Read the label, do not ingest It says it right
on the difference in this. Grandma gave us that ship
like potato salad. You better eat this big you want
to get better, eat it, Eat the big paper roll, y'all?
Ate it?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, what are you talking about? Citi is here? Cit
these two things? This I'm really going. Hell, you're taking
a swig that you have.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
That's why your are still here the way the way
it is on my chest.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yes, no, no, no, you probably had it. You old
enough to have you from Georgia. Right, yeah, you didn't
have something. You have something. You just don't know where
you bought.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Ready, I would have told him, oh hold on, hold
hold on.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
They used to take it off from that job.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
This ye see no thing.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
You ain't say nothing. If I told you he was
twenty five, I.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Was like, on your chest if you read the label,
I want to eat the saucer and salt.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Ee baby, wait, don't got that b baby?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Would my grandfather to do that ship.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I said, here, grandadd man, you got that right? Eat
some Yeah, yeah, bro, yes, that's what all swallow. My
dadd used to take the faster.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
You ain't to.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
My dad used to. He had a cold. He takes
my shirt, he takes the ship, put it on a spoon.
Then it takes the kerosene and put it on the
sugar you bet nothing about. And then he look on
it like candy and his head died the next day. No, no,
I'm serious, But that's the old people have remedies for everything.
Back in the day. You'd be surprising. See when I

(26:29):
grew up around a.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Whole lot of old people.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I went, I went, my mother would have told me
that she has baby rug.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
He was smoking that house. I was like.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
That said no about the we this ain't being a
bapon ruge.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
You would have had it. She would have made made
you take me. See.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
See, I used to something my thom when I was
all right, no.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
One, I I want to shake your dad. Man, you'll
have your thumb on your namuse that's the nastest thing
you could ever do in your life walk around. I
used to put on my thumb.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
That made me not say it didn't even matter at that.
I'm telling you it didn't work.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
When you go to bed or not, you still suck.
You'll talk to you.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
No I didn't.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I'm talking help. I got a ten of my mother.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
I'd like, look, I'm gonna replace them.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Get that. I fall asleep. This is so cool to
be with you guys. Oh my god, love.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
I want to go.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Back to I love this shit because this is how
we grow.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Then how we get to.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Go back and talk to the nigga Look at them
talk ship and they be like Roy, yeah, nigga, ain't
do ship.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Run like the people who really paid the way for us.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
When you say, all right, starting in the game first
wanted to get all the dope, Like me and him
both know we had worked before we got all the dough.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
It was deals in between the deals and it was like,
but they a game, but whatever, We just we just
agreed to have.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
To come out of the house.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
When what was it like when you were like, all right,
I know the business. I'm not gonna be like, yeah,
I got it, Like you said, I gotta be reach,
I gotta make some money and this is the way
for me to make some money.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, what had happened is that I had everything I've done,
I've worked on commission, like I said, coming out of
college selling rags that was commissioned. So everything I've ever
done is pay me for what I do. And if
you work hard, it'll happen to come to you and
not figured after. And I want to tell you who
made me. Doing the Tonight show was really powerful. But
when I start doing Arsenial Hall, that's when the shit

(28:27):
came together, when the black ownings started to come and
come to see the show, and it's this place is packed,
and I'm in Birmingham, Alabama, and what's the name of
the place to start on. I'm doing five shows on
a Saturday. And then it's just like give me some
and they won't making money on food. And to this day,
if you ain't sharp enough, they will take your money.

(28:48):
They will take your lot to you. Gotta go in
then and tell them, says, give me as much as
I can, because if you're gonna make money on the food.
But at that time I was so stupid, I said,
and give me some money. Bar that got started in Maryland,
that's give me some of the bar and they and
they still make tons of money because they were selling
enough food. Everything was Any bar in the in the

(29:08):
world would love to make two drinks a night off
of about five shows. What a fifteen hundred people. Any
bar owner would love that. Just sell the drinks and
just give me them profit off the drinks. And so
I start, I said, well, give me some of the money.
And I wasn't necessarily looking for the money. I was
having fun. But I said, if I'm bringing the people in.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, we would always encourage all comics have a plan,
b have a plan. Beer stand up is great getting
on that stage. But just like you are doing podcasts,
but if you can, I also write. I love writing
for television, absolutely love it, when I tell you right now,
being in the writer's guild. I get a pension, I

(29:48):
got healthcare, got my book. Yeah, I got a full
one K. So okay, that's so cool. My sister's doing okay.
So always, no, even though the lighted shine and brightly,
it may not shine like this always. But if you
got this going on, you got I ain't seen him
in the club.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
You be sitting back like I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine.
That's another thing you young guys, better do you got
a daughter, you got kids? I got a sign. Stop
putting that money away. You're working, you're making all that
money on a weekend. Put five hundred dollars away every
every time you work and build up a fund for
your kids. Be ready for college. And if they talk
back and get nasty shit, you don't save you some money. No,

(30:30):
that was not a joke. That was meant to be.
Be prepared for your kids. You've got to take care
of your kids. What to look out? What's a guy
named Joe Claire. Every time I see him, he thanks
me for giving him that advice twenty years ago. Now
his daughter's ready to go to school. Prepare Save that
money for kids. Save that money for you too, because
all the light ain't always gonna be bright, right, and
like we'll get damn one day.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
I think, I think when even when we get into
this game, I think we need to have a form
of a union wears or financial literacy where it's like
aim well, because when you start getting into a certain racket,
it's people over here that want to see you stay.
It ain't more so like let's see let's watching meiga
see if he gonna fall or not, and you seeing

(31:09):
them spending the money.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You're watching them.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Look, I look at it, but they're like, nah, man,
let's try to help them exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Don't care. And you're in the best business in the world.
I don't know what the other people people watching us.
I know you guys know nobody can do what we do.
But you also chose the hardest form of entertainment.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
It's easy.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Think it's easy. Tell them again.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
When we were on the time during the morning show,
James Ley Brown said it to me one day. He said, Mine, Jay,
we get up, we come to work, we have the
food for a living, and then they pay us. I
was like, that's the coolest shit. You just for a
living and then you go get paid. My mama said,
she said, I'm so glad you got hired on that

(31:57):
little radio show. But the family was like, that's how
never gonna be able to keep your job. She still
she can't do nothing, She ain't gonna be right, she
won't get her husband.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
What's wrong with her? Well, that's something wrong with all comedians,
that's for sure. But ye'll make all the money you can.
It is the toughest job. Like you say, they think
it's easy and uh, and you gotta do it every night.
And sometimes one joke, you can't perfect your joke and
it text a year. Sometimes that's what that joke. To
keep on going, you gotta keep on doing and keep
on going. And then we be.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Baling ship on our own, like we be having to
turn this ship right on. How soon they call our name.
If you don't understand when they call, we gotta grab
that mic.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
We can't go backstage and be like, hold up, y'all.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I'm gonna be right back work like it's it's it's
go time.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
But well, I'll do that ship. I'll go out there
and the joke don't work, and I'll say, well, I'm
gonna do this shit again to y'all start laughing, and
I repeat the same joke. Listen to me when you're
having fun most important when you're out on that stage.
Enjoy yourself too while you're having fun. Yeah, So it
is the greatest thing in the world. It's not laughing
at your own jokes, but you're involved with them, and

(33:05):
you're I don't do a show. We we do a show.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's a part of the renaissance, yes, sir, it was.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's a form of expression.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
So it's like we're growing up there to be the
best act that you've seen tonight. Well, we want to
we want to show you to make act of what
we got. Just put it like that, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I feel good right now. I got to just sitting
there listening to you and night I see you. I
feel the experience. I guess it's kind of like religion.
And when you know, when you go to church and
people get all involved, they getting so deep in that religion.
That's what happens with us, with laughing and saying, somebody
on stage killing when I see you guys working, I'm
looking at you, guys, and we all learn from each other,
y'all talking about learning from us old people we're watching

(33:46):
y'all were watching y'all come out just talk to the people.
And I don't I've been watching you. You don't even
have an act. You just come out and start talking
ship and that's no you don't know about that's how
that's how good it is, you know. And when you're
really good and comfortable, you're just saying hello and then

(34:07):
and people are happy to say. If people want to laugh,
people need to laugh, especially these days in time and
if we're able to deliver, Oh my god, is that awesome?
Glad I want to work tonight. There's a lot of
nights we don't want to work. And then you go
up there and say, I'm glad I went to that show.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Glad I wouldn't work.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm glad I wouldn't work. Glad I want to work
because God know that we needed to. We've been to
a lot. Yeah, God, no, we've been to a lot.
You can we I don't know whether you've been to
any death. My mom is dead and things like that,
your mom and you just if you go up there
and laugh, something make you laugh. Unfortunately, well fortunately us
me and Jay and uh, it's really kind of stupid

(34:41):
talking about death because you know, we talk about each
other mama, and you can't talk about each other mama
unless your mama dead. That's that's pretty low. Let me
tell you all something.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Glad, Janthy Janey problem up, Janey Brobn mama dying. And
we went to the funeral. They all got there before me.
I got there late. So they all sitting up in
the funeral store, place packed, places packed, and so Jay
is sitting on the front row, and his mama's sitting
right there. This is coffin Jay sitting right here. I
walked by Jay sent I just come down here to

(35:17):
make sure that bitch is dead.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Yes he did.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Now they sitting in the corner. Go oh, ship, what
did he say?

Speaker 5 (35:28):
He what that they're hugging. George rushes out the door.
I'm thinking, Oh, he didn't get caught up emotionally. I'm
gonna go out there check check on him, make sure
he's okay. I rushed out to the parking lot. I'm like, George,
you're right. Did you hear what he said to be
a said?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
No?

Speaker 5 (35:45):
What he saying said, you black motherfucker, you better come
to my mama's.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Funeral, to my mama field. So that's how good powerful
laughter is. It's the greatest medicals in the world. And
we'll like to tell people it's also free medicine. That's
why we incur reach people to overdose on laughter. Keeping
in the reach of children.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And when you start laughing for more than forts. If
you laughing and then you call your doctor and let
your doctor laugh with you, give the doctor the same prescription.
And laughter is that powerful which.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
You can have friends who are comics as well as
funny as you all are on stage. I know both
of you all know there's some of the funniest moments
you've ever had. Off stage stage it's the best. Oh
my god.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Really it's like the off stages who he really is?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
It's like this the ship, like what see we be
trying to critique this and be strategic with it on stage.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
And politically correct.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Just be you just make that down on you our stage.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
I don't give about making a nigga a mad nigga.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Some of them pray for him. He knows you've been
praying for since I was.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
We've had between all of us on the time join
in the Morning Show. It was such a great experience
and we've had so many crazy stories. One particular time,
the show is just about to start, you know, the
sky showing the you know, the curtain is down, the
audience is screaming and jingles playing, and George had some
al toys showing them and he's Jay said, hey, man,

(37:27):
give me al toy.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Get you.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Goes up. Show starts blah bla blah. Two hours into
the show. It's time for George to go out and
his stick. He go out there and he's in the
middle of his acting. He looks over and he had
left his al toys sitting on the console. Over James
got the al toys looking dead in Georgia's mouth, taking
him out one of the time, licking him and putting

(37:51):
them back in the cable. Were time, don't know what's happening.
We love out on the stage laughing so hard because
we know Jay ca I mean, George Day.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Saying what God just at the time that I didn't
have walking frock. I said, you know, you can tell
jokes in your mind be thinking on this motherfucker lifting
all of my up.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
I guess he did.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
And you can keep telling your jokes. That's how good.
We all keep delivering your jokes, but you're thinking something
else and this, and I didn't wait to get on
the stage. But we used to do ship like that.
Oh yeah, we would do ship like that, just having fun.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
We've had some One time we went into South Africa.
It was actually me, me, Jay, Sybil and Yogi naw
I encourage everybody visit Africa. It's life changeable. We go
to South Africa and they have in uh Botswana where
they have all faris right. Now, Normally people go to
all the Safari stations. You see all these little tourist

(38:50):
things to Farian spar But we black people in Africa,
we just gonna stop brother man on the street.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
We're not gonna go to.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
One of them touristy things.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
So we did.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
We just time awn the street. Hey, we're from America
and we want to see come tomorrow. Okay, we can tomorrow.
He drive us out to the jungle. We're sitting there waiting.
We see all these white people getting the nice little
air condition van. He come, bro man in a pickup
truck where he done just putting nailed on a couple
of pieces of wood for the weig had no covering

(39:22):
or nothing.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Right, We just on the back of the truck.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Now, Jay, you know he's sitting up the top and ship.
He whistling wee.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Wee head line line where the lines act.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
We don't paint our bukey. We want to see the lions,
he said, Oh no, it's too late in the morning.
The lions. They they get up at dawn. The lions
are sleeping.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Now, well, we want to see something, man, We want
to see something.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
So we see a few gazelle and some giraffe. We
turn and face to face. We're in the deepen the
bush with these tall trees and stuff, and as clean
as that wall is. Right there, a big ass elephant
raised up on his hind legs and came down. The
whole earth shook and Jay screamed like a white woman.
Tell me, he said, I want to see some concrete

(40:10):
that linoleums over the man. He turned to George, picture,
is this not why you come to Africa?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Like this is over? But y'all in the middle of
the jungle.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
We were in the middle of the jungle.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's important too. Do you guys travel, Yes, you've got
your travel. Young people watching right now. More than anything,
if you would never remember anything I ever said, make
sure you travel. Why I teach you having people life
is backwards, don't you hear old people say when I
turned sixty five, I'm going to retire and travel all
over the world for what you too? Damn old you
can't do. Ship people at the ipe tower, Old people

(40:50):
at the IPA Tower looking like it's too hot. Make
sure you go to the new beaches. Get all that
ship out of your system. And have some fun. I'm serious.
It's just the greatest thing in the world to travel.
Been to the New Beat. Yeah, we were so sorry
that he that's what That's when I became a comedian.
People started laughing at my ship. If you and make

(41:19):
sure you travel, you've been to Africa. You've been in Africa.
Go do as I do on stage every night. I
tell people now, if you really want to go to Africa,
I don't care why am. If you really want to
go to Africa and you ain't got no money, you
call Delta air Lines and they're gonna fly you to Atlanta.
That's closed enough. You won't you you won't know the difference.

(41:41):
There's more black people. Now, this is a true story.
Now y'all know Wakanda. We'll come to the movie. They
wanted to move Why come Black Black Panther. They wanted
to make that move in Africa. It's true story. And
they went over to Africa to make the movie. But

(42:03):
when they got over there, they didn't have enough black people,
so they had to call Delta and me right back.
All this shit is true and making up.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
Well, having aver is it not happen?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Like you you worked on the road a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now about how many.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Weeks a year do you say you work?

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I used to work. When I started as a committee,
our goal was too at the time was opening for
big time entertainers. Like when I started, I did this
Tonight show on a Thursday, and the next night I
was in front of seventeen thousand people was Natalie Cole.
And then I left Natalie Cole. And when I'm with
George Benson for a few months, and I left George.

(42:50):
This is the goal. And even at that time, back
in the seventies, being in an opening comedian used getting
like a little money, like five thousand a show or
a week. So I left that left Natalie Cole, George
Benson and with Donald Summer.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Oh let me clear it up. You was getting five
thousand a week or a show. They a lot of
people wasn't able to do that.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
They don't understand the.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Like no, I told you, no, they don't understand, like
that's what true boss was, right.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, And
then you know nothing. Then I went to with Dona
Ross for your and a half and then I went
and left Donna Ross. A man named a white man
named Tom Jones, I don't know if you ever heard
of him. He says, come work with me, And I said,
Tom Jones, I'm with Donald Ross seventeen eighteen thousand people
every night. So Donald Ross went on vacation next night,
next week, I went out with Tom Jones just for

(43:42):
make another five thousand dollars. It's a hustle, right, And
I knew he was a start, but I didn't know
what international sims A seventeen eighteen thousand people just like that.
And I stayed with him for five and a half years,
learning how to be a comedian doing theater in the round,
doing theater seventy thousand people that raced tracks and things
like that. I learned to be a comedian at the
time a Caesars Palace in the Atlantic City. We were

(44:02):
doing these shows. You do two shows tonight, and that
was a dinner show, so you were out there doing
jokes while people were eating, and you had to be
clean and so. But that's when I learned how to
be a commun Most comedians do fifteen to twenty minutes
when they open. When I got to Tom Jones, he
says forty five. I had to do forty five minutes
and that's when I learned. I got to be good.

(44:23):
I had to learn something every night and go out.
And you know, as far as gambling, I was doing
shit like see those chandeliers out there, to paper all
of those people all that shit. You know, it's because
you lost money on everything. You can't win. The only
way you can double your money laws Vegas is mug
somebody at the airport and get your ass on other airport.
But that's when we were, we were really learning to

(44:44):
make that money. To Dona Rosses and and just I
forgot what your question was. I'm so so into this
said nothing. It's just so great to to have to
to have done that and to make money back in
the day and learn how to be who we are.
And it didn't come up. And we see you guys,
but you your platform on television that you guys can
do this. We can't make it on TV.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
When they speak of the you know what they call it,
the chicken circuit. Did you get a chance to experience
the chipling circuit?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
No, they were before. You're from Chicago. You know something
about that, don't you.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Well?

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Yes, actually, Rwanda Page who played aunt Esther, Yes, yes, yes, yep, yep, beauty, yes,
a beautiful dancer and Barville and stuff. But me and
Robin Harris was supposed to be doing this comedy special
for HBO. It never aired, don't worry. But I'm sitting there.

(45:42):
I'm going over notes and stuff and they're sitting up everything.
And this lady walked in and she said, what you're doing, baby?
I said, I'm studying. I'm going up, and she took
my paper from me. She said, either you know it
or you don't. I looked up.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
It's aunt esther.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
I don't want to say nothing like okay, I'm just
gonna go to do it. So I did it. And
she must have sat me down afterwards and talked to
me for about thirty minutes. And I'll never forget this
cause it meant so much to me, cause I admired
her so much. She said, baby, you got something special.
She said, You're gonna get some offers to do TV
and movie. She said, but never stop doing stand up,

(46:18):
because you can do stand up and sometimes TV and movies.
She said, it's too much mustard for the hot dog.
And I knew exactly what she was saying. And she
talked about the chitling circuit. She said, I used to
have to play in a place called jump Off, Mississippi.
And she said, yeah, I had to jump off the
bus and walk the rest of the way. I was like, okay, okay,

(46:42):
But she just talked about how difficult it was for
them and having to you know, go in the back doors,
and just how they were so treated as second class citizens,
what they wanted to do comedy, and how kind Red
Fox had had been to her, And and I will
forever be rightful to people like George Wallace and Jeffney
Brown and Brad Sanders and Tom Joyner, people who just

(47:06):
Robin Harris, who I always love, who actually just pulled
me under their their wings. So if you find someone
you know just just like you, you pulled him in,
you liked him. Each one of us just needs to
help somebody, because even though you guys are very successful,
you still know what you had to go through to

(47:26):
get to where you are. This ain't easy. And people
sit and see you online and streaming sitting at the house.
Oh yeah, my family sitn't say I'm funny, I'm gonna
do comedy. It ain't the same name, it ain't the same.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
And your purpose in life is to give back. It
is a gift back, It is a go out and reach.
I love when I saw you on stage in Washington,
d S. I was so proud that here's a young
man and he's from Atlanta, and well you were out
of Atlanta. Are you born raised in Atlanta? Born? So
I'm born raised here and I'm so old. I actually
rode the back of the bus. You don't know anything
about that? Yeah, I do, m yeah, I do. You

(48:03):
know of it, but you don't know about it.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I didn't have the experience.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, but I'm so I talk about the difference of
knowing other and knowing about it, Huh, I said, talking
about the difference of.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Knowing other and knowing about it, Well, knowing of it
is that we live in Atlanta has never been a
great problem racially wise. That's why they have the title
the city to visit. The hate and you know, the
NAACP and the Jews and everything. They came to Atlanta
and they got. Atlanta has always been a real That's
why it's the meccan now black people still come in.
It has always been the huh, don't go to cob

(48:35):
Kemp Cob County. Well, when I was a kid. No,
don't go to Cob County. When I was a kid.
It's still like that up there. Sometimes I say, that's
the place the police give a man articret for eating
a cheeseburger while he was driving. Yep, I remember, did
somebody laugh over that? Just too shit? What police pissing
me off? But it's coming up during those racial days.

(48:56):
And I thank God for people like Judge me Mark them,
the young kids. I don't know who I'm talking about,
Moms Maybley, Red Fox and uh and always and I
grew up to when I got to Lost Anemis. One
night I was on stage at the Comedy Store and
the producer said, we like for you to write for
the Red Fox Show. And I said, I'm not I
want to be a commedian, but I don't know anything
about writing at all, not just yet. And then they said, well,

(49:18):
it's twenty five hundred dollars a week, and I said,
I think I'll come up with something, and listen, this
is the seventy seven and then you know, and I
just wanted to learn. And then how long did you
do it? One year? It was not some fring Son.
It was called the Red Fox, right it was an hour.
It was an hour show on ABC U. It was

(49:39):
wonderful and on the last of the year. But I
learned how to do that for a year. And no
matter who you write for, no matter how well they
do the Joe, you always say, could have done it better?
Should it? Should it? But to meet people and get
to work for Red Fox and then travel and work
the same rooms that he did. And when I went
to Las Vegas, I went for thirty days, sixty days,

(49:59):
ninety days, and then I went up in there for
fifteen years. So I'm the only black guy that ever
went to Las Vegas and not work for the hotels.
I owned the show. I did all of the marketing, advertising,
the handshack and all of that stuff and owned the
show for fifteen years. And that's that's a pretty a
big goal accomplished. And then I always always wanted to say,

(50:21):
what was your goal? My goal was to build comedian
in Las Vegas. And it hit me about three years ago,
five years ago, like, oh, I need a new goal
because I was very successful and made a lot of
money in Las Vegas and maybe I'll go back, I
don't know, but that was amazing to have done that.
And now that's why I see you young guys going
into Vegas doing your shows and having fun, and I

(50:42):
think that's a great job.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We gotta come do your shoe You got another play
all of.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Your lass? I never see it now.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I used to.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
That would be really cool. I used to bring everybody
to my show. My show was different in Las Vegas.
She worked for me, Jimmy Walker, Jennifer Holiday, and I
had a nothing. Who else worked for me. You're not
gonna believe this, I said, War I had, I would
do some crazy stuff. You're not. You don't even know
this group. There's a group called Slide in the family Stone.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Yes family on the BT movie.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yes? I did? I had. I had them on my show.
I ain't stoopid enough as my show, but I ain't
stood enough to try to follow him. So I opened
the show and so it was so cooler, and then
the people the place were sold out. There are odds
and Las Veakers forty to one that he wouldn't show up.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Let me tell you this, he said, tell you how
I no war.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
My dad used to run a shoe shop at College Square,
right okay, And some guys came in. They wanted to
get some boots done for a show, right, and they
ended up being the guys from War.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
So they brought him backstage and they let my dad
kick it with him.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
So if he always played War, so I know exactly
who he talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, War, George Nofas. Why can't we be friends and
these friends? Yeah, and just have groups like that open
for you. I thought it was a great accomplishment to
be in Las Vegas. That might be my greatest accomplishment. Uh,
the greatest accomplishment may be still doing that today, being
able to just walk as.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Not even the moves, you know, cow was using food
a mister Washington.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I'll fire before I hire, But they can't say, I say, mister,
we were thinking this time you're up in our paper.
First of all, you ain't thinking right if and when,
if and when you find a word up and in
the dictionary, That's what I'm gonna up and do it.
But in the meantime, y'all need to upen your ass
back on that line over the doing movies and fun
when they let you do what you want to do,
and I'm having fun and they've never known what to

(52:43):
do for me and TV. But now this year. In
the next two months. February sixth, We're gonna drop. I
do have a new TV show I want to talk
about now. It's called Clean Slates. Okay, No, So the
prindice of the story is I wanted to reboot Samp
and the Son. Nobody had ever done it.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
So I wanted to go back and do something because
I got his hat, his hair. At the time, my
hands will shorten. But when I take my hat off
sometimes people say I look like lou Nail's Mama Hudgets.
But I wanted to. I wanted to. I wanted to
reboot Sapping the Son. Ye, she's someone eating. I love

(53:26):
Lumel and my new show. I wanted her to be
a part of my show, my next TV show. I'm
gonna do as old as I am. It's gonna be
me and her. It's gonna be like Esther and Red Bite.
I love it back and forth. But what I wanted
to do was reboot Samping the Son, and I want
to know him and lir to create of all of
black shows. He hadn't had a show on for a long,
long while, but everybody still respected him. So he said no,

(53:48):
we can't do that. So he says, come up, and
my dear, maybe a twist to it. A priend of
mine has two kids, twins. One's a girl and one's
a boy. But the boy never identified as a boy.
So my head is sinking like a I don't good.
But damn, that's your kid. You gotta love that kid,
no matter what, no matter what. So it light bulb
went off in my head. Now let me make that better.

(54:08):
The Lord told me, you know, people just making up
ship the Lord. People just the Lord told me. Lord,
ain't told me nothing. I just made that ship up. Okay,
the devil to me.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
You know, one of my favorite bits that you do
is that when you say you hate when people ask
you a question and answer it.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Oh you mean my uncle both right here from the
Cata Uncle boy, you know you're crazy. Uncle He really
one and taught me how to cuss, but he would
ask you a question answer at the same time. How
y'all get up your walk. You asked me a question,
but y'all doing the home and no school today. Cat
got your tongue? Why so hot to here? Y'all got

(54:48):
to hit on. Ask your question and answer that saying
what your mama cooking chicken?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Who preaching?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Mind refend Brooks, I ask your question answer at the
same time. Oh my god, you got it. If you
listen to old people like y'all listen to us, you
can learn a lot. Old people can really really situ
ass on fire if he just listened to some of
the things they say. And they've got a lot of
a lot of history.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
That's a very historic picture of you, y'all. A audio
books that go that I've seen online. You were when
you were were a teenager Martin Luther King's speeches.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I was at Martin Luther King Juniors Tentel. But that's,
oh my god, there's so much stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And then you pointed out, like, look, there's me in
the basket and what happened like a documentary of a
movie or something.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
It is the documentary of what happened. I said, I
was at doctor Mine Little King Junior Stentel, and everyone
want yeah, sure, I said, I'm not lying. I can't
prove it to you. But I was on a pole
next to a tele utility pole. There was a next
poll next. I couldn't get in it because people are
already on the pole. And then they somebody went and
got to all of the history of the funnel. And
you always think that yeah, yeah, and they shoot photos
of going in the church. But these particular photos were

(55:52):
coming out of the church and it looked and it
says that you're right there. I started crying because I
couldn't believe a picture of forty years Have you ever
seen the picture? I had never seen the picture, and
that was me. I had told him I was on
the poll next to the pole, and sure enough, that
was me on the pole, and I keep up with
me and I turned my phone off. I can't show it,
tell you, but I was on the pole at his funeral,
and uh, just to be at his funeral and go

(56:12):
through things like.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
That, and at that time, the type of shit that
we can't get that story from me, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Nowhere else.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
That's the history that we get to do.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
There's so much history of I wish you could do that.
Just in when I was writing in the Red Box
Show and a man walked in the greatest committing one
of the greatest comedians ever. A man walked in and
I freaked out. He said, he walked in. I just
jumped up and I said I'm the greatest of the
whole time I'm looking on. Muhammed Ali walked in the room.
I freaked out, a freak to meet Muhammed Ali. You
talking about the comedian people never say that, but I'm

(56:42):
telling you right now one of them. You ever watched
Muhammed Ali and then smiled, then laugh But he tell
a joke all the time, no matter what it made sense,
no college, but he could just talk to anybody on
whatever level you're on, from presidents down to Joe. He's
just a nice man. Sometime in Hollywood, he'd be walking
the street by himself and you come say, what y'all here? Well,
I'm doing alright, George me just just a great man.

(57:04):
I love him to.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
See a lot of stars like get they start.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
You've been working out in Vegas and and did you
ever meet Sammy Davis Junior.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I met Sammy Davis Junior. Uh heuh we I was
with Donald Ross he closed. I met him several times,
and uh that's a definitely. So every night I thank
God on that stage. I thank God for people like
Red Fox, Summit, Davis Junior, and Lena Horne because they
paid away for me and us to walk out on

(57:34):
no stage and then, and I always liked to mention that,
you know, they couldn't come to the front door to
work the very stage that I'm on right now. And
I met the Flamen though. That's the first big theater
in Laws Vegers nineteen forty six forty seven. That's the
stage they work. And they were black, and they couldn't
go in through the front door. And I always kid
the people that I want to be just like them.
They be if they were alive to they they'd be

(57:54):
surprised to know that we're still going through that damn
back door, because not who we are, we still got
to go to the kitchen. Y'all know that we still got.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
The first play I ever saw was Sammy Davis Junr.
And Golden Boy. Okay, and I was a kid, and
I remember this this part in there because he was
he played he played a boxer and and he fell
for this white woman and blah blah blah blah. And
I still remember the line when he confronted the white
lady by you love me right, The white guy name

(58:26):
was Thom, and she turned and said, I love Tom.
Tell him what and how Sammy Davis Junr. Looked so crushed.
I was a kid, and I cried in the audience
because I was so crushed. So I always just had
this this great respect for Sammy Davis Junior because it
was just such a wonderful one.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
You saw him live in the Broadway play yes, yes, yes, yes, and.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Then you were just talking about the greats. Even now
we didn't we didn't even have to have the Black
comedy clubs.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
We listened to the albums.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
We listened, okay, I said album yes Yes, Flip Wilson,
Dick Gregory. We sat that and as kids, because most
especially we had Fox, we weren't supposed to wait till
our folks got drunk or sleeper was gone up and

(59:17):
would sit up there next to the high Fi. They
don't know what the high I have. I if next
to this we can just be giggling and cracking up.
But we would have to imagine and picture because we
didn't even see these people.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
I got an extensive collection of party record you you got.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Just bring me margam, I got some pig you got
red Fox.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Are right, most definitely that's my favorite one.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
No way, I was at the tape thing. I was
at that taping at Apollo Theater in New York City.
You got to wash your ass. And I don't mean
you got to wash your whole ass, you got to
wash your asshole.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Ye yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Oh did you have a few guys experience. And then
after leaving it at Lampton going to college in Ohio,
I moved to New York City to get into the
theater world and being able to go to Broadway and
see people on stage like James Old Jones, and I
knew I wanted to be in that. I saw him
do Princes and he was, Oh my god, he was
so good, and I was telling my fan, I could

(01:00:16):
do this ship. I know I could do this ship.
And then James Old Jones got to the part he
was talking to his son. He was crying and snotting
ship was coming out of the notes the way, I
can't do that. You can't put that on themands. They
able to see these great brook New York ain't and

(01:00:38):
to see all of the uh what was the fact
lady name that used to run the way? You know, lady,
to give me a break, uh neil To see all
of these people on stage. Bensone was mentioning named Nathan Detroit,
Robert Gain. Oh man, to see all these black people
on the broad Way back into day the whiz man,
what's the girl name? See them throwing your mind? Uh,

(01:01:01):
stuffing it? Oh my god, to see this stuff live.
Oh what's your guys? We are live?

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
They have saying nothing talked about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
If you touch me one more time, I swear to God.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
When I when I did All but Kids, I played
the evil Dorothea who was chasing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, you didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
You did not know black history fact?

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
You know, you know didn't I know I was not good.
Look at it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Again now, I don't want who who figured out fell
into the same. Yes, that mean.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Think you know this? You know you don't know who
this is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
He was the funniest part when we actually people know
it was Faison who played Robin. Robin had pas ass.
We're sitting there reading to just stick figures. They had
not done the movie yet. I never saw what I
looked like till the actual film came out, and I'm
at the premier and I'm sitting there all proud, like

(01:02:13):
when I tell you the little kids hated.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
You know you've getting jump, you know you've done a
good job. People hated, They hated me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
We loved you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I enjoyed a dinnerman finish telling me about your TV show.
I enjoyed. Excuse my language. Wait wait wait, wait wait wait,
I know I know goddamn well, y'all don't want no
food and broo, I don't forgot you. You knew he
was coming that ship.

Speaker 5 (01:02:56):
I knew I was gonna offer you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You ain't offer me. Sall, don't want no cod. You
cut off me my own Uh get you this till late?
Now share the time of the crystal clothes. Oh yeah,
that's right. Scram So I swim. You just have swim swims,
country ass said, man, don't give her your food shit

(01:03:18):
eat at all? Chicken. I grew up her, he asked me.
I'm black sating on her eating. Yeah, I want some chicken,
you know because some time that damn turkey. Then that turkey.
Let me Now I'm good. I just say that man,
fresh fry.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
Oh I'm good. Now you got hot sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
I know you are still uh so.

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
What you still eating left over?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
No? That? Why let me that? That's a trick. I
may be wrong about this. When you have the Thanksgiving dinner,
correct me? Can you from MISISSII. This is the turkey,
the least favorite thing and the least taste, the sting
on the on the table.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Nobody want the turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Everybody want that hair high blood pricks come on the
ham high blood. And what I said with the turkey,
people fly thousand miles away with the turkey. If you
don't get that wing inside with the seasoning on it,
you got some dry ass meat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Turkey City.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
So I'm just gonna tell you, I think we invented
Fran turkeysh who because we've been frying Turkish.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Oh yeah, that's what happened. Somebody said that it ain't good.
Somebody said, Fran, that's how they come up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
You got some going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah, then you gotta have this one Landy's turkey. Then
we got the traditional cause you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
See how many turkeys this say you got. Cause he
grew up Inssissippi. They ate the turkeys in their backyard.
They had the turkeys. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
So Fried it was just another option.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
So we chireded this. Somebody said, we topped Uncle Boat,
the one that's cussed, the child that's got damn turkeys
and that's when they said honey baked ham came about.
And then we went crazy, gonna make us eat that ham.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
We was gonna have turkey, turkey, turkey sandwiches, turkey soup, yep, yep,
turkey to and then take the balls and make jewelry
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Turkey salad for lunch at the University of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Turkey salad is really really good.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
He not not after you sitting for real, for real.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
On the Robin Harris DVD. At the Comedy Act Theater,
they were talking good ship on them.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
Robin made me do everybody. Robin was a master. At
the Comedy Act Theater. Robin Harris would come people would
be afraid to go to the bathroom because the stages
here and you had to walk past the stage and
go up the stairs to use the bathroom. So he
was just firing off jokes. He didn't care who you were.

(01:05:43):
So the women would actually land up at the top
of the stairs and wait for him to bring on
the next act because they were scared to come down
the stairs. So Robin, we'll be sitting there. Robert would
come off the states and go up the stairs and
act and still tell their asses up just doing and waiting.
It was such a great, great experience. And so one

(01:06:05):
day he said, you oughta just come come on stage
and talk about me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I ain't going on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
Stage and talking about Robin Harris. One time time I
came in the club and he said, spotlight and what
the Oh I used to have a little bitty assfro
teeny weeny weeny and it was sandy red color. And
he said, look at your head like sandy sheep shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Oh yes he did. Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
I was like, I said, look at you sitting there
looking like a raisin wood eyes. And somebody said, give
up my canary to come up here and say that.
And that's how the Battle of the Sexes started. He
made me do it because I never would have went
on stage with him.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
So cause Robin had one of my favorite like being
around him, like.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
What was it Like?

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
How did he get hisself together?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Cause was he like that? I know he would like
that off the stage, but like, how.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Did he just get hisself together? Robin was one of
the quickest people I have ever. He's wanted me I
have to go off to myself, like okay, I'm about
to go on I gotta get my head right bover.
Robin could be Oh shit, I got a gold stage
and with this, go on stage, kill for fifteen minutes
and come back and pick up the conversation. Yeah. Man,

(01:07:18):
So what I was saying was out. He was just
like that. And when I met him, I had just
gone to this club on an off night. Wasn't nobody
in there. It was a blues night, and I said, hey, dude,
I'm doing comedy. Can I just tell some jokes while
the band took take a break. He said yeah sure.
When I finished, this guy came up and said, wow,
you was funny. I'm a comedian too. My name is

(01:07:40):
Robin Harris. I never heard of Robin Harris because for
the most part I'm playing the little white clubs. You know,
the IM problem, blah blah blah. So he said, yeah,
get in your car, follow me. Okay, go down follow him.
You know how to hotels give the black people, like
one night in a room. We go into this room,
the room about this bit. It's packed black folks. And

(01:08:02):
the DJ said, ah shit, Robin Harrison the house and
stop the music. And I looked like these people about
to whoop my ass. You don't stop the music on
the black people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I don't even know this man.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
Robin got up in the DJ booth, ain't no stage
DJ booth and started firing off jokes bam and I
en see nothing like that. I was like, who is
this dude? And that that was the beginning of our friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Ms marriage je. Let me ask you this, like what
other younger like women comedians when they ask you for advice,
what what do you tell them or what kind of
advice do you give the upcoming female comedy Actually to be.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
True to themselves. First of all, I know, I know
as a woman it can be even more challenging than
for men. For myself, they wanted to pigeonhole me like
are you you be up there? Male bashing and blah
blah blah. Men to one of the oldest damn Bodville
jokes is take my wife's please, old last joke. Men

(01:09:07):
have always talked about women. It's our turn. Let us
be who we want to be, period. And so I
just tell them just be true themselves and they have
to love it. They have to love it and be
able to love themselves afterwards. Now you're gonna go out
here and try to do whatever to think you're going

(01:09:30):
to get ahead, But are you gonna love yourself in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Well, I know for a fact that it's tough when
we walk up on the stage. But we know for
a fact that when we say a lady go on stage,
we know it's much more tough for you ladies, because
some ladies won't even laugh at ladies. So it's gotta
be really tough.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
When I started, oh shoot, it's been I'm losing count
closer to forty years ago, and usually even to this day,
it's only one woman on the show. Shake your line up,
you know it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
We see it, We see it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
It got one woman, like we the token, like, okay,
let's get the ladies. One woman. But to walk out
on stack and we're on the side. We see the
guys are out there killing and the audience is yucking
it up. And then as soon as the woman walks out,
we see their body language and they sit back and
fold their arms and look at you up and down

(01:10:34):
like I wish you would make me laugh. So for
many of us, we have to come out harder in
the beginning and command. We have to command the audience
and demand the respect. I have earned the right to
be shaved.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Why you definitely? Why do you think it's like that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Because I even said it to some of the upcoming
like young women comedian like Beach mom On and the
Pretty Bes.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
It's just now she's and I'm like, we seeing some
own and uh h h.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
We need me seeing these people killed, Like why y'all
just wanna do a lady show?

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
The women support women and y'all go crazy, like why y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Gonna get together?

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Like how fellas get together? They do that? They have
had all women's show and unfortunately it has nothing to
do with the talent. They don't sell much like the
men's shows. And I'm just being honest, they don't. Women
are coming coming. No, Yeah I saw her, Yeah but
you've seen him five times.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
You know. But bottom like it's a business.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah, we appreciate you, because girl, I feel lean you
Let me finish the story. First of all, I was
writing down here these two sons of bitches sitting in
front of me eating the worst host ever he is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Everything was right, ain't no sauce? He doing the two
fingers all up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
In the like I don't really need that much, No
way I'm really hungry now. So the story, I was
going back to the red Box Saman the guy that
had my friend of mine that helped me write my
book as two kids, and one's the boy never identified
as a boy. So the light bulb went off in

(01:12:43):
my head, Uh, what if I do a Sampanistan and
I had like my mom died when I was sixteen,
and I went off to do my thing whatever I
wanted to be, get the college degree and go to
and and and there's a reason for everything. There's a
reason for everything my mom lived. I've probably been working
at General Motors right to stay right here in Atlanta,

(01:13:03):
Georgia is working on a ji. But there's a reason
go off and do your thing. And so the gist
of the story is, the plot is that I'm like
Red Fox, own a car wash, just like in the Wash.
But my son at sixteen seventeen left home and went
to college and went off to New York to do
his thing, to be who he wanted to be. And

(01:13:24):
I didn't hear from him in twenty three years. I
get email says, Dad, I'm coming home tomorrow, and I
go crazy because I'm the man of the neighborhood, the
man at the church. I know everybody. I run the city.
I'm the black guy in the city, and I tell
everybody my son is coming home tomorrow, my son and
Desmond is coming home tomorrow and tomorrow. I'm sitting there

(01:13:44):
ready to go and just just sending in my chair
and ding down. The doorbell rings. I go to the door.
The most beautiful lady you ever seen in your life.
I said, look, lady, you selling a vonn Are you
selling watch Tarbor? I ain't buying the day? But she says, Dad,
it's me, Dad, it's me. And my first word is

(01:14:08):
what the So it's something happened there is that my
son has transgendered. Uh huh, and I she came back transition.
We got to learn how to say this transition. No,

(01:14:29):
she already who she is, so she has transgender. Oh,
but you got to be careful how you say that,
because they give you a whole class at the movie
story on what to say? What do you call them pronouns?
Because they got to he she hit a day, M
I s and they got an X. Guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I didn't even know you could be more than one person.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Listen to me, you kind of like me, And I
tell you what I learned. I just told them, I
don't know what you are, but you I'm fucking talking
to you. You know who the fuck you are, right,
So that's what I want. But what I learned on
the show was that people to live and let people
be who they want to be. So me, being an
old black man from Georgie, I don't understand stuff. We
our dads grew up putting food on the table. That's

(01:15:05):
all we were supposed to do, not knowing what the
kids get into or what they want to be. But
what happened is that after I learned who she is,
she come back to live with me because she didn't
have a good time in New York. After she's trying
to get me to adjust her something hersel, I'm just
like Red Fox said in My Ways, you ain't gonna
change me. And she's been up in New York and
until her vegetarian, being state sitting and smoking, all of

(01:15:29):
that was, you know, being a vegetarian. By the way,
all you beggers and verit vegetarian, y'all gonna die on schedule,
just like everybody else. And I just want to say that,
but my daughter is Laverne Cox. Yeah, so you'll know
who Laverne Cox is in the show. That's that is
the show. So instead of like Samping and son, is

(01:15:51):
Samping and daughter. So after I said to the pretty lady,
so technically see that you go with taken. No, she
has transgendered. She's not transitioning. She has transgendered. So she
is now Dad, I'm your daughter. And so I got
to learn a lot of shit about her life, and

(01:16:12):
she learns a lot about mine. And what I learned
is that it's kind of like being black president. They
didn't never think we could have a black president, and
we got one and turned out to be the best one.
So I learned a lot on set. She required that
a third of the staff beat from her community. And
I'm an executive producer, and I thought, that's mine, you
know mine, I got my black people on here. And

(01:16:34):
guess what I learned a lot. I had never seen this.
The make up artists she that she required were someday
you can see to make up artists with a mustache,
lipstick and a dress and boots. And you know, my
head is not right yet, but I got to learn this.
And so America is going to be educated with me

(01:16:56):
to learn how to live and let live. And what
I really learned was that everybody, no matter what they
were into, they were doing their jobs. Producer, executive, producer, whatever,
designer and set designer, electricians, the electricians with blue fingernails, whatever.
I learned that let people be who they want to be,
be professional, get the job, and the job was dared

(01:17:18):
really good. Everybody did their job very well. But we
have to learn that. Yeah, people to fuck alone. Shut
out again. I'm looking at that man's titties. That's the bumper, Dick,
put that on the card. I gotta church that with

(01:17:42):
me everywhere on you. You gotta blame that. I'm looking
at that lad titty the other ladies, Dick, either one
you stupid? You start who For the great time this
has been. I don't know whether we're closing up right now,
but this has been wonderful. Didn't know what y'all more
than welcome to come here anything now. You know, our
city hall said there to me one night, and I

(01:18:02):
came the next night. I sure as hell did so
I'll be back to ther No, I ain't driving down
there this damn tracking fuck. Y'all ain't dropping and dropping
down there and what part of Georgia?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Man, Now you gotta leave that damn Ben's out there though,
Like my car, that's a nice car, but you got
to clean if I come back.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
And y'all have a heat up in here, y'all notice
we all got.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Look.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
He looked like he just came from the North Pole.
What the hell it's so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
That a real man that heat on not turn out
here on man, don't turn out here on car.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
They had a canny and he wouldn't even lock himself.
It's some damn home.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I thought he was a statue. He ain't moved since
I've been here. I just you know, you're the places
in you're just down and the like that. I thought
he was out the end of the gun. He ain't
saying ship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
He ain't moved.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
How you doing, sir? And he talking why you're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
In that's the crazy part.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
We had him on the show for a long time, right,
We're like, y'all don't never let him say ship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
So we gave him a mike.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
He can talk whatever the he want to. He just
say you're here.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
He just laughed on the heft and laugh track.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Is he from America? Because he came from y'all know
where you're from, cause he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
From Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Man, not want to be good?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
You said Memphis, right Mark? Now you know that's fucked
up right off the bat. A small town named himself
after the whole country. Didn't want the country the You
just got to know somebody. Who are you like Highway
number nineteen anywhere near nut Bush? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's
the same same nut Bush nut Bush city limits. That's

(01:20:11):
one of the great Are you really that cold? I
mean it's it's like fifty degrees outside.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
You got a bulletproof van that too?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Good? Crazy man?

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
How often do I know? You got the residency in Vegas?

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Not anymore? I quit? You quit? Yeah? I had made
enough money and I need to get back on the
road and reinvent your safety.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
My best friend actually went on stage one night with
me and told me that we've been here long enough.
Let's move on, and we tend to micro ask you
that too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
I got a lot of questions now that we're wrapping
up Black, like who has.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Been your open or or like your feature act the longest?
Or do you just mix it up?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
I mix it up? I everybody I could use. I'm
must have thirty six people that she came in, j
came in just everybody you could think, any comeding you
could think of, except him. I ain't having a ricky smile.
Everybody in Uh that if that was in my class
that I knew at an early everybody that worked with

(01:21:16):
us mus du pree uh uh. The young kids today
run run gee. I still use everybody, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
and all the young comedians I still use them today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
That's my back then at the punchline when the pusch.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Line is still good. Yeah. Did I meet you guys?
Actually when you first started? Were you at the Uptown town?
I came in and did a guest set one night.
You guys was killing, and I'm gonna like, ship, what
am I gonna do? You was killing? You popped in
and threw the paint off that wish. But you don't
know that ship. You don't know that ship until you

(01:21:53):
get up there. When you see you young guys up
there killing and going like this may not be my
ownens ship, go to your head. People don't know what
we be going through, you know. And it's just like
when I did Dave Chappelle's Medison Square garn with him.
I know you know that's this is over that you
just don't know you do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
You would be knowing because you done looked out a
lot of times and you probably don't even know that.
I was in the room just around the city when
you show up and you buy food for the young
comedians and you've kicked it after the show and gave it.
Oh man, I wanted to make sure that I personally
told you thank you. I benefited from that you in
bought me a few little.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Burgers and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Che and you was on stage and you was revenue. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
He always made sure he looked out, put a couple
of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
I love giving, and then like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
I'm gonna put you on the road and then you
and leave for a year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Yeah. And so all of the young communities out let
let Barb Walker, all these people you don't know, man,
these young communians are fantastic, And I just I think
that's my job, you know. Uh, definitely from Spring Iron,
but definitely. Yeah, all of these young ladies. Man, I
just who's opening for me next week? And uh in
Oklahoma City, Uh, Caleia McNeil, and I see all these

(01:23:11):
people up in and and and Montreal up there, they
called it up at Montreal. My job is to harm.
I can put it on a place to work in
Las Vegas, get on stage, do it. They wouldn't let
me come over there to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
In Montreal.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
None, they won't let you come. But they want you
see what they missed. Sometimes maybe it's you don't need them.
You did it for dollar. See you looking if you
were real good. I'm just fantastic man. But it's just great.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
Your name on the wall when all of us just
got Yes, that was that was?

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
That was?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Uh it's like an honorary through uh through uh god.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Yeah, yeah, he wanted the greatest man.

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
What he called me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
I didn't believe.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
I kept going, gays, stop playing. No for real, that
they're gonna put you on? I know, damn what ain't
give you know? That's that our county.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Where's more roommate?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
I was like what yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
That that was?

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
I was truly was That's why I love the game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
It's like, man, you got mean you gotta love the game.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
You gotta it's the game for me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Like you said, you go back to Renaissance, like you go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Back like just to hear y'all stories where it's like, Okay,
I definitely got to take you most series now, like nigga,
we ain't just.

Speaker 5 (01:24:26):
Got three stations.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yea, some stupid ship. They did this in Mississippi because
they're way behind right now. They still got black and
white Mississippi.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
You remember, you're like, no, Mississippis, you don't like you
did too much that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Not gonna time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Talking about but talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Morgan. I did old man Morgan Fray wanted to work
with him. Oh my god. They told him when he
got there that Morgan George doesn't like you. George tryn
you don't like me, son, I said, because every road
I ever won out for you got it in the
start with Glory back in the day. And then he got,
uh shut up and they got back and what's gonna

(01:25:24):
lean on me? Mister? Do you know what's the move?
But nobody likes that first shot? Shank I got to
play red and the domain crawled through miles of ship,
come out looking clean on the other side. And I
could have done that ship and he played what's the man?
Nelson Mandela. I could have talked like this and he did.
What about that lady from driving Miss Stay ship. I'm

(01:25:47):
from Atlanta. Fun I know more about Atlanta he does,
and so he got all that's why I didn't like him.
And then after after the Surnami stuff, the first day
of acting, how own is he? Listen? First day, this
is more gonna frame one of the greatest actress in
the world. They were shooting over his head to me
and other actress and all of a sudden, Morgan says, oh,

(01:26:08):
wait a minute, I'm a super so I don't have
to do this ship. I got to stand in and
I never met the man before. My first words to
him was Morgan Framan, sit down and shut the fuck up.
And the place went crazy and some then because they
were scared. But it was so funny. He was hitting
the table with that bad hand. You know he got
one hand, he came, yeah, and guess what.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
He got a handygamee move.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
You know he yeah, he had an accident. Put that
little girl right. He was in a car. That's Mississippi right,
stop this ship right now. But every day I was granddaughter.

(01:26:52):
Stuff is good. Every day. I feel like he talked
about my mama every day every day. I couldn't believe
that was that's that's nothing but love. There's anohing but love.
Morgan Premier great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
When he's when Denzel ran away and he said he
was going to get him some boots.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Well we have. And I go to church and the
now you go bringing up other things, and I go
to church with uh uh two actors that I go
to church to angular church you got in Christ and
then one sometimes one sitting over here one sometime that's
Denzel Washington and Samuel Jackson, and then a great to
just so you talk my great actors, to be able
to just know them and sit there and talk to them,
and we like we like when Sam come to church

(01:27:38):
because the preacher pre goddamn, and I heard another and
I got damn Prince. For sometime you'd be thinking, stern up, Sam,
come yeah, and of course Denzel. But life is so
good man, you start talking, I should. I'm starting to document.
I'm just starting right now to do some of the
things that I've done in life and just travel all
over the world. And we've traveled together in South Africa

(01:27:59):
and make sure your travels. Life is so good and
documenting ship you guys tape every night. That's pretty nice.
When you guys are on the stage. That's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
They didn't even have video cameras when we started trailed.
I just got still pictures of you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
You still got tapes. You still got what you call them,
They track you wind up. Oh that's what you call
the wind up things you just do. Oh yeah, you
hit it. Yeah, you're right crazy. But life is good.
This has been a wonderful evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'd
like to say to you and you and everybody, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Doing wonderful ladies.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Whatever, look at you. They'll got for us.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
It's got a little way to it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
When I do televionn go see the little eighty five.
This is more than one thing. What is that? Let
me ask all those stupid ass because Comese people say stupid,
shdn't do stupid. Probably show called eighty five south and
we drove down seventy five south. That's some bullshit. You know,
eight run together, I know they running together. Boat to
get here? You got to do what seventy five? Sour?

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
You ney five?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
So I'm an eighty five.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Maybe you come here on eighty pie yeah, and then
what you hit to get here? Seventy five eighty five?

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
And then get run away.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
That's another good thing about living in Atlanta. If somebody
tell you they're coming over your house in Atlanta, then
they get on twenty pie. You got a good hour
and a half to clean up your shit, right, Yeah,
And if you don't want to go somewhere, you use this.
If you don't want to go somewhere, like somebody invite
you to a party, you can call them about thirty
minutes before the party starts and said, man, I'm stuck

(01:29:41):
in this traffic on twenty pile. It ain't moving, and
they'll believe you your ass to be at home. Just
just do shit like that. That's my job is to
make up shit like that. I do shit like that.
I don't buy them when I go to Every time
I go to Kentucky Pied Chicken, I tell the manager
I was in here the other day. I ordered a
fifteen pieces. When I got home, I was only fourteen.
They are another piece. You got your receipt. I do

(01:30:02):
ship line something wrong. Now let me take you well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
I'm sorry you had that prote chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
My boy, Oh Papa, let me tell you something. Let's
talk about Atlanta. The greatest restaurant in the world. Number one.
Y'all know this for sure. You shut the fuck up?

(01:30:35):
No Atlanta, And I went to put that in my
dark round went, I've been to the first Chick fil A.
I've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I used to go there and play his regular side
on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
That would be nice. Wasn't here, then you'd be nice
to you, said, bro. When you shut the up? You
talking my dad? He said, you ain't have nothing to
say when you getting ready to die? Shut the Was
I talking about pig ready? No? No, no, chick, Chick

(01:31:06):
fil a, chick. Where do they find these employees? You
ever find to see them? Bloys chipping They're the nicest
people in the world. You Saturday night, you can put
up in Chick fil A and and at nine five,
and by the time you get to the window at
be ten o'clock. And they would say to you, sir,
I'm sorry we close at ten. You can say, but
I was. I was already in line, sir, I'm sorry

(01:31:28):
we do close at ten. You can be mad saying
you were, you stupid son of a bitch. And all
they will say to you is it's my pleasure. But
don't try that ship that pope eyes. Let me tell
you something. They ready for your ass and pope eyes.
They're ready to fight. They got all of that hot grease.
Are they cooking chicken or grease? At Oh no, but
they pull over. They will come outside and whoop your

(01:31:50):
ass and pops something wrong with those employees, and still
take your money. He said, this has been a lot
of fun. How about you tell you can sell this ship.
I'm selling my shit. Don't want the bucket right now
here for a week, Atlanta, Georgia. I'm so happy to
be here. Eighty five soth ladies and gentlemen. I have

(01:32:12):
so much money. But these two icons, they're icon now
because you're mine.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
A little awesome, a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Pleasure. You got some two days coming there to you're
still one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:26):
Don't look at my people.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
I'm right now a little slow because I'm promoting this show.
I got to the website is what's the name of
my website? Just look up George Wallers TV, George Wallers
coming at George Wallers dot com. I bethinking dot com,
all kinds of shill. I'm on everything. Uh, but it's
I'm gonna be on the road. I'm slowing down because
I got to promote this new TV show. It's on Amazon,

(01:32:49):
by the way, worldwide, and it's already already translated into
every language in the world, so they're expecting something already.
Is that the right word translated? Yes? See, that's why
I don't like to go somewhere with them. How you're
gonna transgender a language? The parents said to me. Girls.

(01:33:16):
But yeah, so that's what we're doing now and now
promoting the movie, and then we're really gonna hit the
road again, and maybe I see you guys out on
the road sometimes I gonna see, huh, don't just see
us invited? I ain't have left, didn't I just tell
him I left bakers already some of them?

Speaker 5 (01:33:30):
How old were you?

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
In your mind? Just got up and walked away from
your ass? How about this?

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Any time I'm in the same city as I'm pulling
up and I'm on the show, it you that you
told me when you came here that I was on.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
The show, And they're gonna tell your ass, And that
was gonna say. Now what they're gonna say, ticket please
with a flashlight, not this way that way?

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Listen Man eighty five South Show, Missus Mary Jay, George Wallace.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
You know, wonderful job get a picture quick.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Absolutely, we gotta take a picture.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
D jomp home couch ain't here you jump on the couch.
You know you still love you?

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Boy. Can't stand your heads

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