December 22, 2024 • 49 mins
In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie (no episode this week), Take This Personally with Morgan Huelsman, The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby. You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts.
You can find them on Instagram:
-The BobbyCast- @BobbyCast
-In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie- @DrJosieVet
-Take This Personally- @TakeThisPersonally
-4 Things with Amy Brown- @RadioAmy
-Sore Losers- @SoreLosersPodcast
-Movie Mikes Movie Podcast- @MikeDeestro
-Get Real: @GetRealCarolineHobby
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey guys, Sunday Sampler, what do your thank you? We
had a two new podcasts in the Vets Office with
Doctor Josie and take this personally with Morgan Hulesman. You'll
hear a clip from these episodes and just a bit
and subscribe to those if you like them, love them.
On the Bobby Cast, I sat down with Hunter Girl
talk about what life was like before she hit it
and before American idol and the origin of her stage name.
(00:31):
Really love to be around her and all the cool
stuff she does even outside of music.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But we're gonna get started here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Within the Vets office with Doctor Josie, they had Dug
the Pug on Dug the Og celebrity dog millions of
Instagram followers. So Doctor Josie talked with his owner Leslie
about how famous Doug got the rise to fame the DMS.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He gets funny episode.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Here we go in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're listening to in the Vet's Office with Doctor Josie Horchak.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How did this all come to be?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
So? I used to actually work a few buildings over
on Music Row. I went to Belmont and that's what
moved me to Nashville, and I had dreams of working
in the music industry and doing marketing and PR and
like graphic design and branding and stuff for bands, and
so I got a job doing that at a small
record label artist management company. And I got Doug when
(01:37):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
A junior at Belmont.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
So I was in college in college, and so I
was going to work on music row and then I
would come home and I had my dream pug who
loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with me
around town. And it became this kind of tradition where
I would get home from work and go out around
Nashville and take pics with him. This was in the
(02:02):
very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty thirteen
when I started posting him, and so I just did
it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean, no
one even really had like my friends didn't even really
have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time. And
I would post him and say Doug the pug doing that,
Doug and I blah blah blah, and people just wanted
(02:24):
to see Doug. So if I posted anything on my
personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like, where's.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Doug, like, we don't really care. They just wanted to
see Doug.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And so I started getting a little more creative and
doing I started getting a little more creative and doing
you know, things that were on trend, like holiday type things,
or if a famous artist was coming into Nashville, I
would like play off that and big Instagram pug accounts
that had all these followers at the time. When they
(02:56):
would take our photos and post them and tag us.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
They would get so many likes, and it.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool a
photo that I took and a concept that I came
up with, and the styling and everything, like people are
resonating with this, they like it. And again this is
very condensed, but I ended up switching my account from
me to just Dug and putting more effort and time
(03:25):
into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers on Instagram,
which was insane and huge and amazing at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And we had a.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Little party and I was just honestly a very fun hobby.
It got me, brought me a lot of joy, and
it brought other people joy. And I would be lying
if I didn't say that at that time, I saw
it being something like what it is now. I had
this gut feeling to pursue it, and so I actually
(03:52):
when he hit one hundred thousand followers, I put in
my notice to quit my job.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wow, and people thought I was crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I kind of lied to most people and said I'm
starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want
to be like So, I have this dog that has
an Instagram and I think he would make a really
cute stuffed animal. But it happened as soon as I
put my notice in for that job. At that one
hundred thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over,
(04:23):
and Rob and I were just dating at the time,
and he was on tour and so all by myself,
I went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was
right by my old apartment, and I tied the pug
balloon to Doug and again, he doesn't care about anything,
so he was all about it. He was running around
the park with this pug balloon attached to him. And
I sent the footage to Rob and I said, can
(04:44):
you put a cute song over this?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Can you put like people?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's
make the pug balloon his best friend, and I posted
it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made
him a Twitter because I was like, what would a
band need, Like if I were to help one of
my artists at the label, what would they need? And
so I put it on all these things and I
had a logo for Doug and I took it very seriously.
(05:08):
But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.
I woke up and I looked on Facebook. He had
three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the
next day he had like fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I'm like, what happened? And I looked at the video
and had twenty million views.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where
he's running around with a pug bull Yes, Like right
after that party, I took a little video with a
leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
All of a sudden, it.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Was real okay, you know, And by the end of
that week he had a million likes followers on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I
got to go to one. He was like, let's go.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And so it was this crazy feeling of like I
felt very ready for it, because I had already kind
of set it up for success, but for it to
actually happen and for me to have the free time
to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So Rob luckily.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Got home from tour right around then, and we just
started making videos. I mean every day we were coming
up with like, let's dress Dug up as Harry Potter
and call him Harry Pugger or you know all these
popular TV shows, The Walking Dead. I dressed him as
a zombie and we were crazy people running around Radner
(06:23):
Lake with our dog with a dressed as a zombie
and like but we didn't care. It was just this
very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had
a book deal and later that year we were going
on a book tour all over the world.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
We went to London. Did he hit his first million
followers that year? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So he on Facebook went from three thousand to a
million within like a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Okay, on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it
took a little longer. But honestly, justin Bieber posting he
posted two pictures of Doug. They his label actually hit
us up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber
era of like sorry and what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It was like the best era, but take me back?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they
asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for
how many days until?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins
and that little sign that said eight days what do
you mean? And Justin posted two of those photos and
tagged Doug. We went up like one hundred thousand followers
in a.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Day, I bet, and it was.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
It's just still so crazy to even look back on
that and to see what it is now, and just
it's been the most amazing fun ride and Doug.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Loves every second of it.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
One thing that you said that I just feel like
sitting here and talking with you is I feel like
there's Instagram influencers and TikTok where you're like, Okay, this
is like their job, and you can kind of tell
like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy
I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy
doing it. He loves to do it, and like that
just really translates. I thank you on his page is
why he's so successful.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I feel like, obviously, social media has changed exponentially. We've
been doing it full time for almost ten years, and
it's changed so much, and I think every day I
have to make the conscious choice and Rob as well
to do it because we love it, right, because we
(08:37):
would have a completely different approach to social media with
Doug if we were doing it just for the followers
and the clout at this point, yeah, and so it's
honestly become so much more laid back and we're a
lot happier because of it, because we're just sharing like literally.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
What we want to share doing anyway. Yeah, we feel
like we.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Have nothing else to prove at this point, right, and
it's it's just like truly for fun and to like
we still have so many big dreams obviously, but his
happiness and our happiness is like most important of course.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why one word hunter girl?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Why?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I know and I've heard the story. You know you
were the only or whatever the version is, you were
the only in your class. You're a girl, But what
as a stage name and one word like all that
came together and you decided on it?
Speaker 9 (09:37):
When why just because That's what everybody called me growing up,
and my last name's Walking Awski, eleven letters, pretty rough,
but I feel like that just part of me, especially
right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, like how are
you doing? That's what my Paul would call me. And
so whenever I come up on stage and I have
(09:58):
the name that a lot of people call me when
I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds
me of home. That's how I feel when I think
of it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Did I don't say anything to you about just going
by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure
you want to do this?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Like I think somebody had like mentioned that. They're like,
do you want to do Hunter Walking Awski? And I
was like, I think I want to be I think
I'm gonna be Hunter girl.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
One word And they're like, that's cool.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
People will remember it, and they were like, just go
for it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's I
got one name. I didn't even know what it was about.
I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I
was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,
but you you never know who they're going to keep
on that show. I watched them edit people and like
two people in but only to cut them out later,
but they'd already been eliminated, like for for drama.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So Hunter, though, is your name? I remember asking I
know the answer, but I remember.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Asking you this in the same way, like what do
I call you?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Your friends call you that.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
My friends call me hunter, like my like my Paul
will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because
that's what he always did. But my friends called me
hunter and uh, but on stage, it's like I kind
of get to separate myself a little bits, like the
like hunters going home and enter PJS. But whenever I'm
on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What I would like for you to go back and
talk about, just for a second, when you talk about
writing with the veterans, which is how you and I
ended up together that night we were doing some veterans stuff
at the Opry together.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, explain like what that is.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
So I started writing writing with veterans when I was
about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And why why would you write with veterans?
Speaker 9 (11:26):
My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of
my great uncles and I just got involved and I
was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that
were writing the songs with the veterans, and so it's
always been something like meant a lot to me and
just seeing how much it, like it affected my family too.
And basically what we do is we get in a
room with a veteran and we write their story about
(11:50):
whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something
in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And
it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to
get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've
been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky
enough to write a song every day, but this is
their first time that they get to feel that whatever.
Like it just makes me remember just how like how
(12:11):
good songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with
gold Star kids and gold Star families and so I've
been doing that consistently.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Since I was about seventeen and still do it.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I had one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Really yeah, cast.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Up Little Food for your Soul.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Life.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh it's pretty bad. It's pretty beautiful, BEFU.
Speaker 11 (12:57):
That's a little more family said, ek cut you're kicking
with full thing with Amy Brown, We're.
Speaker 12 (13:08):
Just gonna have a little chat today. I am sitting
on my bed next to my dog with my computer.
I've been looking at emails. Tomorrow is my mom's birthday,
or it would be her birthday if she was still alive.
But I think I just got a little emotional as
I was prepping for the episode because I thought, well,
(13:30):
in honor of her birthday, maybe I should share one
of my favorite things that she would make, which was
cherry Berry's on a Cloud. And it's not a recipe
she came up with. It's just something that she was
known for making, like she was really good at making it.
People would request it. I would request it her friends
for showers or any type of event or gathering. People
(13:53):
would be like, Judy, can you bring cherry Berry on
a cloud? And she would and it's so good. And
I just went into my email and I searched, you know,
Judy Cherryberry, and things popped up, and it just took
me down memory lane because there was this email that
my sister had sent out. Because Ben and I were
(14:15):
married for years in years in years, let me think
you're almost seventeen. We lived in Austin, some we lived
in North Carolina, and then we were back in Austin,
and then we've been in Nashville the last almost twelve years.
So when we were in North Carolina because Ben was
(14:36):
in the Air Force, I guess we were going back
to Austin for a visit, and my sister sent out
this mass email to everybody and it was like the
Browns are back in town, and she is the queen
of hospitality, and she was inviting everybody over and saying, Hey,
bring whatever you can, or just bring yourself, it doesn't matter.
(14:56):
Judy's gonna make Cherryberry's on a cloud. We're gonna grill out,
and everyone's going to have a good time. And I
was looking at everybody on the email and even my
sister's husband.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And then Ben and.
Speaker 12 (15:08):
I aren't married anymore, but we're still close and our
families are close. But all of those relationships came from
my mom and her friendships that she made, and I
was just thinking how special it was that we would
all gather together. And I'm getting emotional because I miss that,
I really do. But I'm about to be with my
(15:30):
sister and her family for Christmas, and I know we're
going to be gathering around the table We're going to
be cooking and hanging out, and it's going to have
that same vibe. It's just not exactly how I saw it.
Although Ben will be in Colorado at the same time.
ISH we kind of overlap, so the kids will be
(15:50):
with me some and then they'll go be with him,
and I wonder if we'll all get together. I could
see him coming over because he's friends with them, and
I have gratitude right now for that. I have gratitude
for these memories of gathering and keeping it simple, just
inviting people over, and my sister's like, don't worry about anything,
(16:10):
bring your kids. Everyone will pitch in and help. I've
got cribs if you've got babies, and they just we're
all about hosting and community. Like when we were living
in Austin. I just remember that so much, my mom cooking,
my dad cooking, my sister cooking. And it looks a
little different now that my mom and my dad are
gone and Ben and I are divorced. My sister is
(16:32):
still really, really, really good at that and inviting people
over and having extra chairs for people to pull up
around the table. And I guess my point here really
is I'm going to link the or copy and paste
the cherryberries on a cloud recipe and the show notes,
(16:52):
because if you have to go anywhere this holiday season,
take this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It will be a hit.
Speaker 12 (16:59):
It is so good. And if you ever just have
some time and you want to reminisce, type in keywords
into your email. I mean, I was going all the
way back to I think it was two thousand and
ten or twenty eleven that I saw that email that
my sister sent out to everybody, and I copied and
(17:20):
pasted that and I sent it over to my sister
so that she could reminisce. But then I had to
go find the actual recipe, So then I had to
google or search inside my Gmail my mom's name and
the cherryberry recipe and it popped up. So I copied
that and I'm going to drop it in the show notes.
But then I started looking at emails from my mom,
(17:43):
and that's probably what got me emotional, alongside the fact
that it's her birthday tomorrow and she's not here, but
I had sent her this email of this little garden
I was growing because I wanted to make fresh salsa,
and I took a video and I emailed it to
her and she said, she said back, let me tell
(18:05):
you what she said here cute. She goes, what's really
in that planter? I said, cayenne, tomato and cilantro. You
don't believe me, And she said, amy, tomatoes get huge.
Are you starting your garden with seeds?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You don't have to.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
You can buy tomato plants and that will be much faster.
And I said, mom, I started with seeds. I will
transplant them to separate pots when they get three inches tall.
It's a salsa garden. Did you watch my video? I'm
not scared. I'm being patient. When it's time, I'll get
to make salsa. For Ben's smiley face. I said, my
(18:41):
first sprouts came in today. I just noticed about twenty
minutes ago, and I got so excited.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And I don't even know that version of me.
Speaker 12 (18:51):
That decided to make a little salsa garden from seeds.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
We're gonna do it live. We ah the one shoot
three sore losers?
Speaker 13 (19:04):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much
a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
It's Sison I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
to be determined.
Speaker 10 (19:32):
Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this
week's episode of The Sore Losers.
Speaker 13 (19:38):
Right, tell me, how'd that Christmas party go?
Speaker 14 (19:41):
Man?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
You missed out. I told you it was networking.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
I know I was gonna go. Then the wife informed
me we had Christmas caroling with the neighborhood and we
were getting together with other families and we were gonna
go Christmas caroling.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Sometimes you realize I just got a network for the
good of the Sore Losers. And I realized that. Baser
even said before I went, I can't believe you're going
to this because it was an hour and a half
drive from where I live.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Yeah, it's at a higher up's house, which is weird.
It's not easy to get to and they do it
at five o'clock, and I don't know if they understand
what five o'clock means.
Speaker 13 (20:24):
It means grid lock traffic.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
So if you want to get there right at five o'clock,
you got to leave at three o'clock. If you don't leave,
if you leave any later than three, it's gonna take
you an hour and a half proceed.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
And I get there, and when I say networking, it
was me, the two big bosses, and Robin from Media Base.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
Robin still works here.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, show's great too.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Excuse me, m h. I had no idea.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Stuff she does outside of here that you just don't
see her doing. I guess she deals with songs, artists,
media base ratings, rankings, songs, climbing charts, getting credit for
playing live performances, et cetera.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
I mean that means she works from home, because I
mean she has not been around in eight years.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Correct, FTW, that's awesome. From the home. Fth from the home. Okay,
And that's it, dude, it's I said in Indian Circle
having a pow wow. That is how you promote the
sore losers. And I mean it's just when it's just
you and the brass in the kitchen, dude, you have
no choice.
Speaker 13 (21:33):
So it was just four people, yes.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Because I got there so early. It was my fault.
It was nothing on the party. It was what times
you get there, right at five and I get and
it's one of those where they were on the couches,
and so I didn't really want to I pulled up.
I just pulled up a chair, dude.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
You didn't want to sell on the couch in between
two of them.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
I just pulled up a chair. Dude. Hey, if we're
going to network, let's network, baby. I told Beazer before
I left the country, I said, going to network. I
kind of like I was going to war. I was like,
I'll be back after my tour. I'll see in a
couple hours. But yeah, that was the start of it.
They weren't in the kitchen, dude, and it caught me
(22:15):
off surprise, or I didn't even mention the parking situation. So,
because it's a city and it's a very very expensive
place to live, they don't have the biggest driveways.
Speaker 13 (22:24):
And the driveway is right on a busy road.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Truck ain't fitting in that driveway. So you park in
the neighborhood over for not a quarter eighth of a mile,
for half of a football field, you're literally walking on
the road.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Yeah, bro, And there's no street lights.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm running on the road because I didn't want to
walk in the grass. Well, then a car starts coming,
so I go into the grass and it looks like
other cars have gone into the grass as well, and
it might be muddy, so there were probably mud on
my shoes. I walk into the party and there's nothing
but white carpet. Ugh, So what do you think I
did because it'd.
Speaker 13 (22:57):
Been raining, Yeah, took a shoe off.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
So I looked at the party host, the brass they
all had their shoes on. I just couldn't risk walking
on that carpet and making shoeprints when I'm trying to
network for the sore losers and I'm just dirtying up
the place. I took off my shoes. Why was that
a mistake? Bro? Every time I tried to network and
(23:20):
conversate with somebody, I was a foot shorter than everybody
because everybody wore their shoes except for me. That leads
me to my next story. Dude comes walking in, looks
like he's from Chicago. New York got a big bar
fig time city. Everybody was dressed up and looked good.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
But did he have a scarf?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
No? Yeah, just a long black jacket, butt up, good shoes,
good jeans.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
What looked like what was his hair?
Speaker 8 (23:43):
He looked he looked like falcon. Oh and but but
you knew he was important and I had already. Dude,
I talked to every brass there there was. There was
no more brass left.
Speaker 13 (23:53):
So he's a baldy.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Huh. I didn't even talk to Abbie.
Speaker 13 (23:56):
I don't even know who the baldy. I don't know
who this guy is.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
There's people this company don't even know there was a
brunuit chick. I go Morgan, who's at Oh she works
for a premiere. No, I never seen her. Who is
that blondie? How do you even know her? Why are
you guys so friendly? Oh, she's great, she was at
the last Christmas party. I don't know. I'm literally never
seen her. And we work in the same building.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Got it.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
And so then this dude comes in. He looks important.
I've talked to everybody, Abbey, I see every dam damn
IM not talking about?
Speaker 10 (24:17):
So what did you talk about with the brass when
you're sitting in that little circle the pow wow?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
It's did you do your high low for the day,
or your rose or your thorn. Now I was trying
to think that's what it was. It was she's from
Kentucky and she goes, oh, yeah, I hope the Valls
win on Saturday. Because the one lady not to get
too much in the weeds. The one lady just got
a divorced and her husband ex husband was a huge
fan of the Boles. And so I was being funny
(24:42):
and I was like, hey, screw the balls, let's root
against the balls this Saturday, being on her side, just
being funny. I'm Avalls fan. And then the brass jumps
in and goes.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Actually I want the Falls. Let's go. We want Tennessee.
And I go, aren't you from Kentucky? And then she goes,
I just go for the game. But she goes, I'm
more of a basketball girl, and she said I love
the pre games. And then we talked about Rup and
I said I was out rupping, Oh the Steak the
area of Rop, And I was like, have you ever
been there? She goes, Honey, I ever been there. I've
(25:14):
been there a hundred times. And I said, I want
to go for a game. You know what, maybe you
and me go for a game sometime that's called networking, baby, honey,
that's called networking. So that was just one of the
things that we talked about.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
And you said me and you should go to a
game sometime. What did she say?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
It was all just laughing joke. Here's a Christmas party?
Am I in the brass? Gonna go driving Kentucky and
go to Rupprena sometime maybe?
Speaker 13 (25:39):
But anyways, I've heard rough so old and that needs improven.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Dude. They looked good. But I moved to the kitchen
and here comes another brass. There's so many brass around, dude.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
Hey, which one got divorced?
Speaker 15 (25:50):
Robin?
Speaker 12 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Oh, but I knew that already. Oh but it would
have been bad if I got caught off Guarden. I
didn't get a heads up about that. Then the dude
walks in and I go right up to I'm not
I chill in the glassroom with Abby. I'm not trying
to be like, hey, Abby, how's it going. I've talked
to Abby about everything. I'm good. So she Abby's like
call me over. I'm like, ha ha, I totally dissed her.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
Abby. I see you every day at work.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
I'm going to network with this dude. I go Hey,
how's it going. He goes, hey, you right, yeah, how
are you? What's your name? He goes Bob, and he goes,
he were sore losers, right? What dude? I just about
fell out. Not only did he know my name, he
knew about sore losers.
Speaker 13 (26:30):
Tell me more about it.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
So Bob runs everything the volume. Colin cow or Dan Patrick,
if they go somewhere to Fountain Blue, he runs it.
If they're at the pool, he runs it. He's all
over the country. They'll go to events, six hundred people
pop up, boom, he goes. Sometimes the crowds are wild.
For Steven A. Smith, he runs it. Draymond Green runs it.
(26:52):
The volume has Jeff Tigue and the some of oh yeah.
Speaker 13 (26:55):
Yeah, that Jeff guy. He's pretty funny.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Runs it. He's always there, advice, ads, marketing. Who's the
other show? He said, Draymond getting on a mic. Right,
I forgets the technical It's amazing, he said. That shows
that volume blowing up. He goes, you guys are blowing up.
Great talk with him?
Speaker 13 (27:13):
What all did he say?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Everything? He was just talking And I said, I used
to listen to Colin Cowhard. That must be so cool.
He does it. Sounded more with the sports shows, and
I was trying to think of the one other one
that is huge. Oh, Ocho Cinco is on a show
with you guys are yelling at your trucks right now.
Ocho Cinco has a show with Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Yeah. I think you're right that one.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yeah, And he said, blowing up, dude. The fact sore
Losers was mentioned in the same sentence as Ocho Cinco,
Draymond Green, Shannon Sharp, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick blowing up.
Speaker 13 (27:56):
What else did Bob say about sore Losers.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Uh, not not much, but the fact that he knew
the show and then put us in the category of
sports and he said, blowing up.
Speaker 16 (28:38):
Seles Man, are you ready, Hillary, I'm excited.
Speaker 14 (28:44):
I'm excited to get a talk with you on a microphone.
Speaker 16 (28:46):
Not that I haven't talked to you in a long time.
Speaker 14 (28:49):
But this is our first official talk on a microphone
since you left the show.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, it's been almost three years. I was thinking about
that today. I was like, this is the first I've
been behind a microphone and almost three years, and the
last time I was was probably the last best bits.
Speaker 14 (29:06):
But you had mentioned how Tyler is your first boyfriend
and now like potentially going to be your fiance. But
what's that been like for you? He's your first boyfriend
and you weren't dating before that. Is there like any
part of you that thinks about that and that kind
of situation?
Speaker 16 (29:24):
Yes, I yes, I have thought about it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
First of all, when I was never you know, part
of the reasons I haven't dated was I feel like
if I liked a guy, they wouldn't like me back.
Speaker 16 (29:35):
So it wasn't like a choice. Part of it was,
but part of it wasn't. It was just people just
didn't like me. So I always saw something was wrong
with me. Okay, I liked you, well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 14 (29:46):
There were I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure, even
though I have only known you my adult life, that
there were people that liked you. You just probably didn't feel
that back, so.
Speaker 16 (29:56):
They never pursued it or they didn't tell me. Yeah
that's possible too. Yeah, Yeah, you maybe beautiful, So I
can guarantee that there were people that liked you. Yeah,
maybe they just didn't tell me.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay, So maybe there have been missed opportunities, which is
fine because I'm happy where I'm at. Yeah, but yeah, no,
I've always felt like, Okay, something's wrong with me. If
I'm not nobody likes me, nobody wants to be in
a relationship with me. Something's wrong with me. And I'd
have strangers on the internet telling me something is wrong
with me too, So that didn't help. Yeah, they definitely
(30:27):
let me know. They're like, something's wrong with you, Like,
are you, you know, normal?
Speaker 16 (30:32):
I was like, no, I'm fine, You're perfectly normal. Yeah,
I'm just not finding someone. Timeline was just different.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
My timeline was different, and it was definitely worth the
way of waiting for waiting to find him. Like he is,
like you said, just to a gem of a human.
Speaker 16 (30:46):
Yeah, he's precious.
Speaker 14 (30:48):
Well do you feel like, do you still have those
feelings now or did once you met him? Did that
all kind of quiet itself?
Speaker 16 (30:56):
It did? It quieted itself?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I mean I I you know me, I struggle with
self confidence issues and things like that, so that stuff
has remained. But the whole it was like it was different.
It was I do feel like I'm worthy enough and
you know, good enough for someone, and so I feel
(31:18):
very secure in that. But within myself, I definitely still
have you know, the doubts and.
Speaker 16 (31:25):
Self confidence issues, all those things.
Speaker 14 (31:27):
You want to talk about that a little bit, because
mental health is part of this podcast, yes, and we
talk about.
Speaker 16 (31:33):
Those things a lot.
Speaker 14 (31:34):
So where do you feel like you're at kind of
right now in your life with your I guess you
can say self love journey. Do you feel like you're
on a better path or do you feel like you're
kind of stagnant?
Speaker 16 (31:47):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I feel like I'm in a good place now. I
think a couple a couple of years ago, i'd had
a not I was not in the best place, which
was right around the time. It was right before I
started dating Tyler. But I'll never forget. We were at
a dinner. I know exactly. I know you're gonna remember
what it was. It was a Valentine's Day. It was
(32:08):
Valentine's Day dinner. And at the point at that time,
I was still single and I just turned thirty, and.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
I just was having so many self doubt issues.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
And I've dealt with that my entire life, Like, honestly,
ever since I was in elementary school, I've dealt with
self confidence issues and didn't know it at the time.
As I've gotten older, I've learned a lot about anxiety
and things like that, and I know that's you know,
what I was dealing with. But yeah, a couple of
years ago, I remember I was just in not a
great place. I didn't like myself. I've always struggled with
(32:45):
weight and you know how I view myself body my
body issues, Yeah, body image issues. It's a great way
put that. So at that time, I was really dealing
with a lot of those issues. And I've definitely always
struggled with body image issues and that's all always probably
been one of my main things that I've struggled when
it comes to myself and self confidence issues. And yeah,
(33:07):
a couple of years ago, I just I was dealing
with with those things. And I feel like I can
talk about like I feel like it's kind of probably
like trigger warning type of stuff for some people, but
I definitely do feel like I had like eating disorder
type stuff. I mean I would there were times that
I would make myself throw up or I wouldn't eat,
(33:29):
like I would starve myself.
Speaker 16 (33:31):
And I kind of had dealt with.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That a little bit in you know, my early twenties,
and I was doing fine and then for some reason
a couple of years ago, I just was having some
issues and just not loving myself. I was turning thirty
and I was not at all where I thought i'd
be in my life. And I think that had a
lot to do with it. Was turning thirty and realizing
I'm not married, i don't own a house, i don't
(33:53):
have kids, I'm not at all where I thought I
would be in life. And I was also making career changes,
so everything all at once, Everything was changing at once,
and I was not feeling good about myself. And so
a couple of years ago, yeah, I just was not
and I was in a very dark place and just
not feeling good about myself. And we were out that
(34:14):
dinner and I don't remember what was said, something said
and I just started bawling my eyes out at the dinner,
and we got up and went into your jeep, and
you and Jodie were there, and y'all said, we're not
leaving until you tell us what's going on. And I
remember I was just crying so hard I couldn't barely speak,
(34:34):
and I was just so embarrassed because I'd never I
do need to say, I'd never really admitted to anybody
that I did all of that stuff, and because I
was embarrassed and nobody knew that that had ever happened,
that I was doing, you know, making myself sick, not
eating things like that, nobody knew, and I finally was
(34:54):
able to open up to y'all about that. And I
will never forget that night of just sitting there for
even know how long, just crying and just I don't
think many words were said. It was just y'all being
there and being able to cry to y'all and admit,
this is what's going on in my life. And I
have these bad habits again like I had them before
(35:14):
and I got past it, but it's happening again, and
I feel alone and I feel stuck, and I feel
like what do I do? So I remember being able
to talk to y'all about that that night.
Speaker 17 (35:30):
Hey, it's Mike d And this week All Movie Mike's
Movie podcast, I shared my top ten underrated.
Speaker 16 (35:35):
Movies of the year.
Speaker 17 (35:36):
And these are a lot of movies that aren't sequels,
aren't remakes, aren't superhero movies. So if you're somebody who says, man,
everything's a remaked these days, I have ten movies that
maybe you missed in theaters. I think they are underappreciated.
More people should have seen these, they should have performed
better at the box office, because I think they're all
good movies that you can watch at home. Now, So
here's what I had as my number one pick, but
be sure to go check out this full episode to
(35:57):
hear the entire list. Right now, here's just a little
bit of movie Mike's Movie podcast. At number one, my
most underrated movie of twenty twenty four, I have My
Old Ass So Good, which I gave a four at
a five. It has a pretty decent audience score, like
a great eighty nine percent. But I think this one
comes down to the box office. Had a budget of
(36:19):
three million dollars, which is wild that they made this
movie for three million dollars, but it only made five
million dollars.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's two million dollars.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Now.
Speaker 15 (36:27):
Though it sputtering bean in the red.
Speaker 17 (36:29):
I just think that it is hard to make a
fresh coming of age movie at this point. And I
love the formula. I could watch the same coming of
age formula in any amount of movies and I would
still enjoy There's just something special about it when done right.
And this one the twist was that she takes some mushrooms,
(36:49):
she sees her older self, which is Aubrey Plaza. She
tells her all this stuff about her future and kind
of gives her advice on what to avoid, and then
puts her phone, no in her phone, and she's able
to communicate with her. My only thing was I wanted
more Aubrey Plaza, But.
Speaker 15 (37:06):
It was cool to see Aubrey Plaza on more like
I mean, she was still her like dry, comedic self,
but a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Of an emotional Yeah.
Speaker 17 (37:12):
Well, there was a scene in this movie where I
damn near cried.
Speaker 15 (37:16):
Yeah, I think you did.
Speaker 17 (37:17):
Like I think it was there was a span of
movies there. I think this one in the Wild Robot.
We watched back to back, I believe, and both times
the movies like I almost cried.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I look over and.
Speaker 17 (37:29):
I did not expect to go there because there's just
a moment where it's like, oh, man, all this stuff
that had been building up and building up. Yeah, there's
a lot of fights between her younger self and her
older self, which I would question things that I would
be telling my younger self, and there's a moment that
just hits you right in the gut and then it
just like, oh man, I just kind of sat with it.
Speaker 15 (37:51):
What's the number one thing that you would tell your
younger self? Sitting here now as a thirty three year old,
I always have to remember, hold you are.
Speaker 17 (37:59):
It's very difficul I don't know how cliche this is,
but like, stop caring what people think. I think that
kept me from doing a lot of things that I
enjoyed younger because I was worried about how they would
be perceived by other people. And at that time, I
didn't realize that those other people would not matter when
I was older. Like look at this room now, Like
all these things that I embraced now were things that
(38:20):
I hid back then. And I think all the things
about me now that I enjoy actually about myself I
was ashamed of probably fifteen years ago. And it's hard
to say to imagine me like being cool, but I
had a feeling of like I need to be cool
because I was so one cool that I didn't want
to come across of like putting anything against me because
(38:42):
there was already a lot of things held against me.
I felt like like I was overweight, I had bad skin,
my teeth are messed up. There were just things I
felt that kept me from being cool, and I was like,
I just can't show any other weakness. I think that's
what it would be it for me. I would just
not care about what anybody else thought. And just like
the things I like, would you tell yourself?
Speaker 15 (39:01):
Mine's also cliche, and mine would be to like stop
worrying about the boys that didn't like me. Like I
just was like, no one's ever gonna like me. I'm
gonna be single forever. I felt that too, and I
was so young. But I think I think when you're
in high school and it's like you have those couples
and like ever I never had a boyfriend. You were
(39:22):
my first boyfriend.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
I damn you went my first girlfriend dates.
Speaker 15 (39:27):
Like I liked people, I talk to people, but like
no one ever really fully liked me. And I just
used to think, like I'm ugly, no one's gonna like me.
And I'm just say in retrospect, I think I was
just like too smart. I think I intimidated people like
not to toot my own horn, but I think I
just was like unapproachable because I was really smart.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I've oddly been thinking about this lately.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Is.
Speaker 17 (39:49):
I always felt that it was people not giving me
a chance. And when I look back on myself there,
I think I just didn't respect myself enough, Like I
didn't put enough effort into myself to attract anybody. I
thought it was all about looks, but I think it
was how I treated myself and probably the energy I
put out that was really what it was. And I
just thought it was, like I said, just people not
(40:10):
give me a chance. But I thought about like would
I even want to be with me then? So maybe
that's the advice I would give to myself, like, hey,
working yourself a little more, dummy.
Speaker 15 (40:19):
Yeah, I think I would tell myself to stop stressing.
Because I met you when I was twenty four. That's
that is still so young when in retrospect, I met
you when I was twenty four, I'm married to twenty seven.
Like I don't know. I think I just was like,
oh my god, I'm going to be alone forever. But
like those things feel so big when you're younger. Yeah,
(40:41):
they feel so monumental.
Speaker 17 (40:42):
When you're younger, you want to get older. When you're older,
you want to be younger. I think if I was
more specific about my advice I think it would be
that you're on your own timeline. Yeah, like nobody else
is really looking at your timeline, even though to you
it feels like, ah, I'm so behind. How am I
not at this point in my life yet? When really
nobody else cares about what's going on with you And
in the end, it doesn't really matter, like what age
(41:05):
you are when you hit these supposed milestones that you're
supposed to hit.
Speaker 15 (41:09):
I think I would also I would warn myself not
to like several of the guys that I liked. I
think I would be like, don't waste your time, don't
just don't delete his number.
Speaker 17 (41:19):
Even more specific advice, I would have told myself to
like to get into coding more like pay attention to
technology more.
Speaker 15 (41:25):
I would have told myself to purchase real estate at
the age of like five.
Speaker 17 (41:29):
I'd invested in like TikTok or something.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
I would have invested in bitcoin exactly.
Speaker 17 (41:35):
I'd have bought it when it was so cheap. It'd
be millionaires now as I tell you.
Speaker 15 (41:40):
I would have bought stock and Apple.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Would it have been as value?
Speaker 17 (41:44):
I guess back then, I feel like the time would
have to buy it would have been like the eighties.
Whenever they were first launching, it was like dirty. I
don't know if they were public by that point.
Speaker 15 (41:52):
It's not according to what one of the characters in
the Nexolas Sparks book.
Speaker 17 (41:55):
Did, But all right, that is the list.
Speaker 15 (42:07):
Cary Lone, she's a queen and talking and you saw them.
You know, she's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, so.
Speaker 13 (42:17):
Just let it flow.
Speaker 17 (42:19):
No one can do we quiet cary Lone is kind
of care Lone.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
I'm sad I was not someone who grew up watching
One Tree Hill, and now I feel like I need
to go back and binge that because after like reading
your book and then deep diving you and then I
deep dived One Tree Hill, and that show is like,
that's like an amazing That show like shaped our generation.
Like I'm forty one, and I feel like, I don't
(42:48):
know how I missed watching it, probably because I didn't
watch a whole bunch of TV growing up, but.
Speaker 18 (42:52):
That was like pretty much I know, I know, right,
that was like the show that shaped our like our minds.
I feel like I feel like that.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
And Friday Night Lights it's like One Tree Hi Lights
were the ones.
Speaker 19 (43:06):
Right, that was a big one too. Yeah, the others
felt like they were as much as we loved Gossip
Girl in the OC, they were very they lived in
that Beverly Hills nine O, two and O zone of
it's such a rare population of America who live like that.
But the kids that live like us kids in One
(43:28):
Tree Hill and the kids that lived like the Friday
Night Light kids are vastly more. Sorry my sentences aren't
working today. They'll come together eventually, but there's so many
more of a population that lives like that and things
like that and experiences life just in a small town
like that. So I feel like we really kind of
(43:49):
cornered the market on just reflecting back to teens in
America what their life was and they felt seen. And
you should go back and watch it.
Speaker 18 (44:01):
You definitely should.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It be fun.
Speaker 18 (44:03):
I need to binge it. I love a good show.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
I have a five year old daughter and all I
watch is like Disney, and now she's into watching YouTube,
like YouTube kids and all these families just make their
own YouTube videos and I'm like, oh my god, I
literally it's torture to watch it, but it's I need
to watch like real, real content, and that's our shows
were great. You know, that's when the storylines were good.
(44:25):
They lasted a long time.
Speaker 18 (44:28):
It's just, man, what a life you've lived, Bethanie.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Okay, So now that I'm like diving into your book,
I literally you're such a good storyteller.
Speaker 18 (44:36):
First off, becauk you, I am so in the story
with you.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
When I am reading this, I feel like I feel
like I'm like in your actual brain walking starting from
your childhood with your parents.
Speaker 18 (44:52):
Like it's just it makes so much sense, like it's
you always wonder.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
I'm from Waco, Texas, and we had David Crash in
the branch Davidians.
Speaker 18 (45:01):
We actually, oh boy, yes, that's right, of course you did.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
You had a.
Speaker 18 (45:05):
Cult in our in our town. And there's been like.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Lots of other little pop up cults that lots of
families join and they're integrated into the city. But it's
definitely always been like cults. So there's a lot of
culty vibes in Wacos. So I've always grown up with
interesting Yeah, I've always grown up like with a big
understanding of cults.
Speaker 18 (45:25):
But like I always wondered, how does this happen? Like
how does so unusual?
Speaker 19 (45:30):
But maybe it's not unusual. I haven't. I'm not a researcher,
but it seems strange to me that in a town
like Waco, where it's known for being the center of
this massive cult event, that others would pop up, so
many others would still pop up in that region that
like people didn't quite learn the lesson.
Speaker 18 (45:53):
I guess it's that is wild. It is wild, And
there's some other I don't know if they're called cults.
What do you call them?
Speaker 7 (46:04):
A focus group or like a what does the other
word you use for that?
Speaker 18 (46:08):
It's not cult, but it's like a control group.
Speaker 19 (46:11):
Yeah, high demand, high demand group great, which that is
what a cult is. It's it's the definitions are interchangeable.
Speaker 18 (46:22):
High demand group think.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
I love the group think because I actually was talking
to my friend. We're in Georgia and I we're saying
with some friends, and we were talking about just faith
and how people can have all sorts of.
Speaker 18 (46:38):
Rules with it.
Speaker 7 (46:39):
Like, so I have some friends right now who I
consider really great friends who are like not practicing yoga
because they feel like that is sacrilegious. Then I'm like,
and you can probably find all of these spiritual practices
to back it. But at the same time, like I
personally have had so many spiritual experiences that I have
(46:59):
had myself that it's like, I know, I have to
trust my own intuition and not other people's advice. What
might be good for someone, or what might someone might
feel like is their path, that does not mean it
is my spiritual path.
Speaker 18 (47:13):
And I love that.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
I feel like that's sort of the point that I'm
getting from your book is yes, someone can have a
spiritual idea and that can truly be their road, But like,
if it does not align with you, and if it
is not your internal guidance system, like really you need
to examine that and really take note of why are
you doing something just because someone is telling you.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
To do them if you don't really know why?
Speaker 19 (47:39):
Right, Yeah, it's huge. We do so much in our
life and we don't ask why why do I do this?
I am very neurodivergent, and my tendency is to examine things,
and so I appreciate that not everyone's brain works the
(48:01):
same way that mine does. It's taken me a while
to get to that point. I used to be so
frustrated that people seem to think I was overthinking things
all the time. And people thought I was, you know,
pushing too many buttons, and I was like, oh, that's
because the neurotypical brain, most people's brains aren't endlessly curious
(48:22):
about the why, and so I try and leave space
for that. Just everybody's brain works differently, you know, But
for me, I just I don't know how you can
go through life not asking yourself why? Why?
Speaker 11 (48:39):
Why?
Speaker 19 (48:39):
Because even when I was in this group, it's the
why that got me in, but it's also the why
that got me out. Like it's just the most important question.
I think you can ask yourself with everything. Why do
I eat this? Why am I I'm getting married? Why
do I walk down an aisle? Why? Why do do
I need to keep my room clean? Why do I
(49:01):
need to walk my dogs? Why do I pray? Why?
And follow it all the way down? And I think,
I mean, some roads just keep on going. I don't
know that we'll ever arrive at the answer, but you
certainly can arrive at like new layers of understanding of
yourself and other people. Sorry, I didn't mean to go
(49:22):
on a tangent, but yes, you're right that one of
the main points of the book is nobody else can
live your life for you, you have to move with
the God of your understanding at the pace that you're at.
And you also can't condemn or judge other people for
the pace that they're at and where they are. You
didn't grow up as them. You don't know their life,
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and you don't know how God is speaking to them
or planning to speak to them. You just don't know
Hey guys, Sunday Sampler, what do your thank you? We
had a two new podcasts in the Vets Office with
Doctor Josie and take this personally with Morgan Hulesman. You'll
hear a clip from these episodes and just a bit
and subscribe to those if you like them, love them.
On the Bobby Cast, I sat down with Hunter Girl
talk about what life was like before she hit it
and before American idol and the origin of her stage name.
(00:31):
Really love to be around her and all the cool
stuff she does even outside of music.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But we're gonna get started here.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Within the Vets office with Doctor Josie, they had Dug
the Pug on Dug the Og celebrity dog millions of
Instagram followers. So Doctor Josie talked with his owner Leslie
about how famous Doug got the rise to fame the DMS.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He gets funny episode.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Here we go in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're listening to in the Vet's Office with Doctor Josie Horchak.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How did this all come to be?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
So? I used to actually work a few buildings over
on Music Row. I went to Belmont and that's what
moved me to Nashville, and I had dreams of working
in the music industry and doing marketing and PR and
like graphic design and branding and stuff for bands, and
so I got a job doing that at a small
record label artist management company. And I got Doug when
(01:37):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
A junior at Belmont.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
So I was in college in college, and so I
was going to work on music row and then I
would come home and I had my dream pug who
loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with me
around town. And it became this kind of tradition where
I would get home from work and go out around
Nashville and take pics with him. This was in the
(02:02):
very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty thirteen
when I started posting him, and so I just did
it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean, no
one even really had like my friends didn't even really
have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time. And
I would post him and say Doug the pug doing that,
Doug and I blah blah blah, and people just wanted
(02:24):
to see Doug. So if I posted anything on my
personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like, where's.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Doug, like, we don't really care. They just wanted to
see Doug.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And so I started getting a little more creative and
doing I started getting a little more creative and doing
you know, things that were on trend, like holiday type things,
or if a famous artist was coming into Nashville, I
would like play off that and big Instagram pug accounts
that had all these followers at the time. When they
(02:56):
would take our photos and post them and tag us.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
They would get so many likes, and it.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool a
photo that I took and a concept that I came
up with, and the styling and everything, like people are
resonating with this, they like it. And again this is
very condensed, but I ended up switching my account from
me to just Dug and putting more effort and time
(03:25):
into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers on Instagram,
which was insane and huge and amazing at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
And we had a.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Little party and I was just honestly a very fun hobby.
It got me, brought me a lot of joy, and
it brought other people joy. And I would be lying
if I didn't say that at that time, I saw
it being something like what it is now. I had
this gut feeling to pursue it, and so I actually
(03:52):
when he hit one hundred thousand followers, I put in
my notice to quit my job.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Wow, and people thought I was crazy.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I kind of lied to most people and said I'm
starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want
to be like So, I have this dog that has
an Instagram and I think he would make a really
cute stuffed animal. But it happened as soon as I
put my notice in for that job. At that one
hundred thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over,
(04:23):
and Rob and I were just dating at the time,
and he was on tour and so all by myself,
I went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was
right by my old apartment, and I tied the pug
balloon to Doug and again, he doesn't care about anything,
so he was all about it. He was running around
the park with this pug balloon attached to him. And
I sent the footage to Rob and I said, can
(04:44):
you put a cute song over this?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Can you put like people?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's
make the pug balloon his best friend, and I posted
it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made
him a Twitter because I was like, what would a
band need, Like if I were to help one of
my artists at the label, what would they need? And
so I put it on all these things and I
had a logo for Doug and I took it very seriously.
(05:08):
But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.
I woke up and I looked on Facebook. He had
three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the
next day he had like fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I'm like, what happened? And I looked at the video
and had twenty million views.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where
he's running around with a pug bull Yes, Like right
after that party, I took a little video with a
leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
All of a sudden, it.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Was real okay, you know, And by the end of
that week he had a million likes followers on Facebook.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I
got to go to one. He was like, let's go.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
And so it was this crazy feeling of like I
felt very ready for it, because I had already kind
of set it up for success, but for it to
actually happen and for me to have the free time
to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So Rob luckily.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Got home from tour right around then, and we just
started making videos. I mean every day we were coming
up with like, let's dress Dug up as Harry Potter
and call him Harry Pugger or you know all these
popular TV shows, The Walking Dead. I dressed him as
a zombie and we were crazy people running around Radner
(06:23):
Lake with our dog with a dressed as a zombie
and like but we didn't care. It was just this
very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had
a book deal and later that year we were going
on a book tour all over the world.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
We went to London. Did he hit his first million
followers that year? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So he on Facebook went from three thousand to a
million within like a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Okay, on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it
took a little longer. But honestly, justin Bieber posting he
posted two pictures of Doug. They his label actually hit
us up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber
era of like sorry and what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It was like the best era, but take me back?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they
asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for
how many days until?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
What do you mean?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
And so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins
and that little sign that said eight days what do
you mean? And Justin posted two of those photos and
tagged Doug. We went up like one hundred thousand followers
in a.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Day, I bet, and it was.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
It's just still so crazy to even look back on
that and to see what it is now, and just
it's been the most amazing fun ride and Doug.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Loves every second of it.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
One thing that you said that I just feel like
sitting here and talking with you is I feel like
there's Instagram influencers and TikTok where you're like, Okay, this
is like their job, and you can kind of tell
like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy
I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy
doing it. He loves to do it, and like that
just really translates. I thank you on his page is
why he's so successful.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I really appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I feel like, obviously, social media has changed exponentially. We've
been doing it full time for almost ten years, and
it's changed so much, and I think every day I
have to make the conscious choice and Rob as well
to do it because we love it, right, because we
(08:37):
would have a completely different approach to social media with
Doug if we were doing it just for the followers
and the clout at this point, yeah, and so it's
honestly become so much more laid back and we're a
lot happier because of it, because we're just sharing like literally.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
What we want to share doing anyway. Yeah, we feel
like we.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Have nothing else to prove at this point, right, and
it's it's just like truly for fun and to like
we still have so many big dreams obviously, but his
happiness and our happiness is like most important of course.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Why one word hunter girl?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Why?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I know and I've heard the story. You know you
were the only or whatever the version is, you were
the only in your class. You're a girl, But what
as a stage name and one word like all that
came together and you decided on it?
Speaker 9 (09:37):
When why just because That's what everybody called me growing up,
and my last name's Walking Awski, eleven letters, pretty rough,
but I feel like that just part of me, especially
right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, like how are
you doing? That's what my Paul would call me. And
so whenever I come up on stage and I have
(09:58):
the name that a lot of people call me when
I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds
me of home. That's how I feel when I think
of it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Did I don't say anything to you about just going
by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure
you want to do this?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Like I think somebody had like mentioned that. They're like,
do you want to do Hunter Walking Awski? And I
was like, I think I want to be I think
I'm gonna be Hunter girl.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
One word And they're like, that's cool.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
People will remember it, and they were like, just go
for it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's I
got one name. I didn't even know what it was about.
I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I
was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,
but you you never know who they're going to keep
on that show. I watched them edit people and like
two people in but only to cut them out later,
but they'd already been eliminated, like for for drama.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So Hunter, though, is your name? I remember asking I
know the answer, but I remember.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Asking you this in the same way, like what do
I call you?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Your friends call you that.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
My friends call me hunter, like my like my Paul
will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because
that's what he always did. But my friends called me
hunter and uh, but on stage, it's like I kind
of get to separate myself a little bits, like the
like hunters going home and enter PJS. But whenever I'm
on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What I would like for you to go back and
talk about, just for a second, when you talk about
writing with the veterans, which is how you and I
ended up together that night we were doing some veterans stuff
at the Opry together.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, explain like what that is.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
So I started writing writing with veterans when I was
about seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And why why would you write with veterans?
Speaker 9 (11:26):
My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of
my great uncles and I just got involved and I
was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that
were writing the songs with the veterans, and so it's
always been something like meant a lot to me and
just seeing how much it, like it affected my family too.
And basically what we do is we get in a
room with a veteran and we write their story about
(11:50):
whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something
in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And
it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to
get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've
been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky
enough to write a song every day, but this is
their first time that they get to feel that whatever.
Like it just makes me remember just how like how
(12:11):
good songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with
gold Star kids and gold Star families and so I've
been doing that consistently.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Since I was about seventeen and still do it.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I had one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Really yeah, cast.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
Up Little Food for your Soul.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Life.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh it's pretty bad. It's pretty beautiful, BEFU.
Speaker 11 (12:57):
That's a little more family said, ek cut you're kicking
with full thing with Amy Brown, We're.
Speaker 12 (13:08):
Just gonna have a little chat today. I am sitting
on my bed next to my dog with my computer.
I've been looking at emails. Tomorrow is my mom's birthday,
or it would be her birthday if she was still alive.
But I think I just got a little emotional as
I was prepping for the episode because I thought, well,
(13:30):
in honor of her birthday, maybe I should share one
of my favorite things that she would make, which was
cherry Berry's on a Cloud. And it's not a recipe
she came up with. It's just something that she was
known for making, like she was really good at making it.
People would request it. I would request it her friends
for showers or any type of event or gathering. People
(13:53):
would be like, Judy, can you bring cherry Berry on
a cloud? And she would and it's so good. And
I just went into my email and I searched, you know,
Judy Cherryberry, and things popped up, and it just took
me down memory lane because there was this email that
my sister had sent out. Because Ben and I were
(14:15):
married for years in years in years, let me think
you're almost seventeen. We lived in Austin, some we lived
in North Carolina, and then we were back in Austin,
and then we've been in Nashville the last almost twelve years.
So when we were in North Carolina because Ben was
(14:36):
in the Air Force, I guess we were going back
to Austin for a visit, and my sister sent out
this mass email to everybody and it was like the
Browns are back in town, and she is the queen
of hospitality, and she was inviting everybody over and saying, Hey,
bring whatever you can, or just bring yourself, it doesn't matter.
(14:56):
Judy's gonna make Cherryberry's on a cloud. We're gonna grill out,
and everyone's going to have a good time. And I
was looking at everybody on the email and even my
sister's husband.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
And then Ben and.
Speaker 12 (15:08):
I aren't married anymore, but we're still close and our
families are close. But all of those relationships came from
my mom and her friendships that she made, and I
was just thinking how special it was that we would
all gather together. And I'm getting emotional because I miss that,
I really do. But I'm about to be with my
(15:30):
sister and her family for Christmas, and I know we're
going to be gathering around the table We're going to
be cooking and hanging out, and it's going to have
that same vibe. It's just not exactly how I saw it.
Although Ben will be in Colorado at the same time.
ISH we kind of overlap, so the kids will be
(15:50):
with me some and then they'll go be with him,
and I wonder if we'll all get together. I could
see him coming over because he's friends with them, and
I have gratitude right now for that. I have gratitude
for these memories of gathering and keeping it simple, just
inviting people over, and my sister's like, don't worry about anything,
(16:10):
bring your kids. Everyone will pitch in and help. I've
got cribs if you've got babies, and they just we're
all about hosting and community. Like when we were living
in Austin. I just remember that so much, my mom cooking,
my dad cooking, my sister cooking. And it looks a
little different now that my mom and my dad are
gone and Ben and I are divorced. My sister is
(16:32):
still really, really, really good at that and inviting people
over and having extra chairs for people to pull up
around the table. And I guess my point here really
is I'm going to link the or copy and paste
the cherryberries on a cloud recipe and the show notes,
(16:52):
because if you have to go anywhere this holiday season,
take this.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It will be a hit.
Speaker 12 (16:59):
It is so good. And if you ever just have
some time and you want to reminisce, type in keywords
into your email. I mean, I was going all the
way back to I think it was two thousand and
ten or twenty eleven that I saw that email that
my sister sent out to everybody, and I copied and
(17:20):
pasted that and I sent it over to my sister
so that she could reminisce. But then I had to
go find the actual recipe, So then I had to
google or search inside my Gmail my mom's name and
the cherryberry recipe and it popped up. So I copied
that and I'm going to drop it in the show notes.
But then I started looking at emails from my mom,
(17:43):
and that's probably what got me emotional, alongside the fact
that it's her birthday tomorrow and she's not here, but
I had sent her this email of this little garden
I was growing because I wanted to make fresh salsa,
and I took a video and I emailed it to
her and she said, she said back, let me tell
(18:05):
you what she said here cute. She goes, what's really
in that planter? I said, cayenne, tomato and cilantro. You
don't believe me, And she said, amy, tomatoes get huge.
Are you starting your garden with seeds?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
You don't have to.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
You can buy tomato plants and that will be much faster.
And I said, mom, I started with seeds. I will
transplant them to separate pots when they get three inches tall.
It's a salsa garden. Did you watch my video? I'm
not scared. I'm being patient. When it's time, I'll get
to make salsa. For Ben's smiley face. I said, my
(18:41):
first sprouts came in today. I just noticed about twenty
minutes ago, and I got so excited.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
And I don't even know that version of me.
Speaker 12 (18:51):
That decided to make a little salsa garden from seeds.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
We're gonna do it live. We ah the one shoot
three sore losers?
Speaker 13 (19:04):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much
a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
It's Sison I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
to be determined.
Speaker 10 (19:32):
Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this
week's episode of The Sore Losers.
Speaker 13 (19:38):
Right, tell me, how'd that Christmas party go?
Speaker 14 (19:41):
Man?
Speaker 8 (19:41):
You missed out. I told you it was networking.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
I know I was gonna go. Then the wife informed
me we had Christmas caroling with the neighborhood and we
were getting together with other families and we were gonna
go Christmas caroling.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Sometimes you realize I just got a network for the
good of the Sore Losers. And I realized that. Baser
even said before I went, I can't believe you're going
to this because it was an hour and a half
drive from where I live.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Yeah, it's at a higher up's house, which is weird.
It's not easy to get to and they do it
at five o'clock, and I don't know if they understand
what five o'clock means.
Speaker 13 (20:24):
It means grid lock traffic.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
So if you want to get there right at five o'clock,
you got to leave at three o'clock. If you don't leave,
if you leave any later than three, it's gonna take
you an hour and a half proceed.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
And I get there, and when I say networking, it
was me, the two big bosses, and Robin from Media Base.
Speaker 13 (20:46):
Robin still works here.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, show's great too.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Excuse me, m h. I had no idea.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Stuff she does outside of here that you just don't
see her doing. I guess she deals with songs, artists,
media base ratings, rankings, songs, climbing charts, getting credit for
playing live performances, et cetera.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
I mean that means she works from home, because I
mean she has not been around in eight years.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Correct, FTW, that's awesome. From the home. Fth from the home. Okay,
And that's it, dude, it's I said in Indian Circle
having a pow wow. That is how you promote the
sore losers. And I mean it's just when it's just
you and the brass in the kitchen, dude, you have
no choice.
Speaker 13 (21:33):
So it was just four people, yes.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Because I got there so early. It was my fault.
It was nothing on the party. It was what times
you get there, right at five and I get and
it's one of those where they were on the couches,
and so I didn't really want to I pulled up.
I just pulled up a chair, dude.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
You didn't want to sell on the couch in between
two of them.
Speaker 8 (21:54):
I just pulled up a chair. Dude. Hey, if we're
going to network, let's network, baby. I told Beazer before
I left the country, I said, going to network. I
kind of like I was going to war. I was like,
I'll be back after my tour. I'll see in a
couple hours. But yeah, that was the start of it.
They weren't in the kitchen, dude, and it caught me
(22:15):
off surprise, or I didn't even mention the parking situation. So,
because it's a city and it's a very very expensive
place to live, they don't have the biggest driveways.
Speaker 13 (22:24):
And the driveway is right on a busy road.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Truck ain't fitting in that driveway. So you park in
the neighborhood over for not a quarter eighth of a mile,
for half of a football field, you're literally walking on
the road.
Speaker 10 (22:37):
Yeah, bro, And there's no street lights.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm running on the road because I didn't want to
walk in the grass. Well, then a car starts coming,
so I go into the grass and it looks like
other cars have gone into the grass as well, and
it might be muddy, so there were probably mud on
my shoes. I walk into the party and there's nothing
but white carpet. Ugh, So what do you think I
did because it'd.
Speaker 13 (22:57):
Been raining, Yeah, took a shoe off.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
So I looked at the party host, the brass they
all had their shoes on. I just couldn't risk walking
on that carpet and making shoeprints when I'm trying to
network for the sore losers and I'm just dirtying up
the place. I took off my shoes. Why was that
a mistake? Bro? Every time I tried to network and
(23:20):
conversate with somebody, I was a foot shorter than everybody
because everybody wore their shoes except for me. That leads
me to my next story. Dude comes walking in, looks
like he's from Chicago. New York got a big bar
fig time city. Everybody was dressed up and looked good.
Speaker 13 (23:36):
But did he have a scarf?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
No? Yeah, just a long black jacket, butt up, good shoes,
good jeans.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
What looked like what was his hair?
Speaker 8 (23:43):
He looked he looked like falcon. Oh and but but
you knew he was important and I had already. Dude,
I talked to every brass there there was. There was
no more brass left.
Speaker 13 (23:53):
So he's a baldy.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Huh. I didn't even talk to Abbie.
Speaker 13 (23:56):
I don't even know who the baldy. I don't know
who this guy is.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
There's people this company don't even know there was a
brunuit chick. I go Morgan, who's at Oh she works
for a premiere. No, I never seen her. Who is
that blondie? How do you even know her? Why are
you guys so friendly? Oh, she's great, she was at
the last Christmas party. I don't know. I'm literally never
seen her. And we work in the same building.
Speaker 13 (24:12):
Got it.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
And so then this dude comes in. He looks important.
I've talked to everybody, Abbey, I see every dam damn
IM not talking about?
Speaker 10 (24:17):
So what did you talk about with the brass when
you're sitting in that little circle the pow wow?
Speaker 8 (24:20):
It's did you do your high low for the day,
or your rose or your thorn. Now I was trying
to think that's what it was. It was she's from
Kentucky and she goes, oh, yeah, I hope the Valls
win on Saturday. Because the one lady not to get
too much in the weeds. The one lady just got
a divorced and her husband ex husband was a huge
fan of the Boles. And so I was being funny
(24:42):
and I was like, hey, screw the balls, let's root
against the balls this Saturday, being on her side, just
being funny. I'm Avalls fan. And then the brass jumps
in and goes.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Actually I want the Falls. Let's go. We want Tennessee.
And I go, aren't you from Kentucky? And then she goes,
I just go for the game. But she goes, I'm
more of a basketball girl, and she said I love
the pre games. And then we talked about Rup and
I said I was out rupping, Oh the Steak the
area of Rop, And I was like, have you ever
been there? She goes, Honey, I ever been there. I've
(25:14):
been there a hundred times. And I said, I want
to go for a game. You know what, maybe you
and me go for a game sometime that's called networking, baby, honey,
that's called networking. So that was just one of the
things that we talked about.
Speaker 13 (25:28):
And you said me and you should go to a
game sometime. What did she say?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
It was all just laughing joke. Here's a Christmas party?
Am I in the brass? Gonna go driving Kentucky and
go to Rupprena sometime maybe?
Speaker 13 (25:39):
But anyways, I've heard rough so old and that needs improven.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Dude. They looked good. But I moved to the kitchen
and here comes another brass. There's so many brass around, dude.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
Hey, which one got divorced?
Speaker 15 (25:50):
Robin?
Speaker 12 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:53):
Oh, but I knew that already. Oh but it would
have been bad if I got caught off Guarden. I
didn't get a heads up about that. Then the dude
walks in and I go right up to I'm not
I chill in the glassroom with Abby. I'm not trying
to be like, hey, Abby, how's it going. I've talked
to Abby about everything. I'm good. So she Abby's like
call me over. I'm like, ha ha, I totally dissed her.
Speaker 13 (26:12):
Abby. I see you every day at work.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
I'm going to network with this dude. I go Hey,
how's it going. He goes, hey, you right, yeah, how
are you? What's your name? He goes Bob, and he goes,
he were sore losers, right? What dude? I just about
fell out. Not only did he know my name, he
knew about sore losers.
Speaker 13 (26:30):
Tell me more about it.
Speaker 8 (26:31):
So Bob runs everything the volume. Colin cow or Dan Patrick,
if they go somewhere to Fountain Blue, he runs it.
If they're at the pool, he runs it. He's all
over the country. They'll go to events, six hundred people
pop up, boom, he goes. Sometimes the crowds are wild.
For Steven A. Smith, he runs it. Draymond Green runs it.
(26:52):
The volume has Jeff Tigue and the some of oh yeah.
Speaker 13 (26:55):
Yeah, that Jeff guy. He's pretty funny.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Runs it. He's always there, advice, ads, marketing. Who's the
other show? He said, Draymond getting on a mic. Right,
I forgets the technical It's amazing, he said. That shows
that volume blowing up. He goes, you guys are blowing up.
Great talk with him?
Speaker 13 (27:13):
What all did he say?
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Everything? He was just talking And I said, I used
to listen to Colin Cowhard. That must be so cool.
He does it. Sounded more with the sports shows, and
I was trying to think of the one other one
that is huge. Oh, Ocho Cinco is on a show
with you guys are yelling at your trucks right now.
Ocho Cinco has a show with Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 13 (27:38):
Yeah. I think you're right that one.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yeah, And he said, blowing up, dude. The fact sore
Losers was mentioned in the same sentence as Ocho Cinco,
Draymond Green, Shannon Sharp, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick blowing up.
Speaker 13 (27:56):
What else did Bob say about sore Losers.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
Uh, not not much, but the fact that he knew
the show and then put us in the category of
sports and he said, blowing up.
Speaker 16 (28:38):
Seles Man, are you ready, Hillary, I'm excited.
Speaker 14 (28:44):
I'm excited to get a talk with you on a microphone.
Speaker 16 (28:46):
Not that I haven't talked to you in a long time.
Speaker 14 (28:49):
But this is our first official talk on a microphone
since you left the show.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, it's been almost three years. I was thinking about
that today. I was like, this is the first I've
been behind a microphone and almost three years, and the
last time I was was probably the last best bits.
Speaker 14 (29:06):
But you had mentioned how Tyler is your first boyfriend
and now like potentially going to be your fiance. But
what's that been like for you? He's your first boyfriend
and you weren't dating before that. Is there like any
part of you that thinks about that and that kind
of situation?
Speaker 16 (29:24):
Yes, I yes, I have thought about it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
First of all, when I was never you know, part
of the reasons I haven't dated was I feel like
if I liked a guy, they wouldn't like me back.
Speaker 16 (29:35):
So it wasn't like a choice. Part of it was,
but part of it wasn't. It was just people just
didn't like me. So I always saw something was wrong
with me. Okay, I liked you, well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 14 (29:46):
There were I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure, even
though I have only known you my adult life, that
there were people that liked you. You just probably didn't feel
that back, so.
Speaker 16 (29:56):
They never pursued it or they didn't tell me. Yeah
that's possible too. Yeah, Yeah, you maybe beautiful, So I
can guarantee that there were people that liked you. Yeah,
maybe they just didn't tell me.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay, So maybe there have been missed opportunities, which is
fine because I'm happy where I'm at. Yeah, but yeah, no,
I've always felt like, Okay, something's wrong with me. If
I'm not nobody likes me, nobody wants to be in
a relationship with me. Something's wrong with me. And I'd
have strangers on the internet telling me something is wrong
with me too, So that didn't help. Yeah, they definitely
(30:27):
let me know. They're like, something's wrong with you, Like,
are you, you know, normal?
Speaker 16 (30:32):
I was like, no, I'm fine, You're perfectly normal. Yeah,
I'm just not finding someone. Timeline was just different.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
My timeline was different, and it was definitely worth the
way of waiting for waiting to find him. Like he is,
like you said, just to a gem of a human.
Speaker 16 (30:46):
Yeah, he's precious.
Speaker 14 (30:48):
Well do you feel like, do you still have those
feelings now or did once you met him? Did that
all kind of quiet itself?
Speaker 16 (30:56):
It did? It quieted itself?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I mean I I you know me, I struggle with
self confidence issues and things like that, so that stuff
has remained. But the whole it was like it was different.
It was I do feel like I'm worthy enough and
you know, good enough for someone, and so I feel
(31:18):
very secure in that. But within myself, I definitely still
have you know, the doubts and.
Speaker 16 (31:25):
Self confidence issues, all those things.
Speaker 14 (31:27):
You want to talk about that a little bit, because
mental health is part of this podcast, yes, and we
talk about.
Speaker 16 (31:33):
Those things a lot.
Speaker 14 (31:34):
So where do you feel like you're at kind of
right now in your life with your I guess you
can say self love journey. Do you feel like you're
on a better path or do you feel like you're
kind of stagnant?
Speaker 16 (31:47):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I feel like I'm in a good place now. I
think a couple a couple of years ago, i'd had
a not I was not in the best place, which
was right around the time. It was right before I
started dating Tyler. But I'll never forget. We were at
a dinner. I know exactly. I know you're gonna remember
what it was. It was a Valentine's Day. It was
(32:08):
Valentine's Day dinner. And at the point at that time,
I was still single and I just turned thirty, and.
Speaker 16 (32:17):
I just was having so many self doubt issues.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
And I've dealt with that my entire life, Like, honestly,
ever since I was in elementary school, I've dealt with
self confidence issues and didn't know it at the time.
As I've gotten older, I've learned a lot about anxiety
and things like that, and I know that's you know,
what I was dealing with. But yeah, a couple of
years ago, I remember I was just in not a
great place. I didn't like myself. I've always struggled with
(32:45):
weight and you know how I view myself body my
body issues, Yeah, body image issues. It's a great way
put that. So at that time, I was really dealing
with a lot of those issues. And I've definitely always
struggled with body image issues and that's all always probably
been one of my main things that I've struggled when
it comes to myself and self confidence issues. And yeah,
(33:07):
a couple of years ago, I just I was dealing
with with those things. And I feel like I can
talk about like I feel like it's kind of probably
like trigger warning type of stuff for some people, but
I definitely do feel like I had like eating disorder
type stuff. I mean I would there were times that
I would make myself throw up or I wouldn't eat,
(33:29):
like I would starve myself.
Speaker 16 (33:31):
And I kind of had dealt with.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
That a little bit in you know, my early twenties,
and I was doing fine and then for some reason
a couple of years ago, I just was having some
issues and just not loving myself. I was turning thirty
and I was not at all where I thought i'd
be in my life. And I think that had a
lot to do with it. Was turning thirty and realizing
I'm not married, i don't own a house, i don't
(33:53):
have kids, I'm not at all where I thought I
would be in life. And I was also making career changes,
so everything all at once, Everything was changing at once,
and I was not feeling good about myself. And so
a couple of years ago, yeah, I just was not
and I was in a very dark place and just
not feeling good about myself. And we were out that
(34:14):
dinner and I don't remember what was said, something said
and I just started bawling my eyes out at the dinner,
and we got up and went into your jeep, and
you and Jodie were there, and y'all said, we're not
leaving until you tell us what's going on. And I
remember I was just crying so hard I couldn't barely speak,
(34:34):
and I was just so embarrassed because I'd never I
do need to say, I'd never really admitted to anybody
that I did all of that stuff, and because I
was embarrassed and nobody knew that that had ever happened,
that I was doing, you know, making myself sick, not
eating things like that, nobody knew, and I finally was
(34:54):
able to open up to y'all about that. And I
will never forget that night of just sitting there for
even know how long, just crying and just I don't
think many words were said. It was just y'all being
there and being able to cry to y'all and admit,
this is what's going on in my life. And I
have these bad habits again like I had them before
(35:14):
and I got past it, but it's happening again, and
I feel alone and I feel stuck, and I feel
like what do I do? So I remember being able
to talk to y'all about that that night.
Speaker 17 (35:30):
Hey, it's Mike d And this week All Movie Mike's
Movie podcast, I shared my top ten underrated.
Speaker 16 (35:35):
Movies of the year.
Speaker 17 (35:36):
And these are a lot of movies that aren't sequels,
aren't remakes, aren't superhero movies. So if you're somebody who says, man,
everything's a remaked these days, I have ten movies that
maybe you missed in theaters. I think they are underappreciated.
More people should have seen these, they should have performed
better at the box office, because I think they're all
good movies that you can watch at home. Now, So
here's what I had as my number one pick, but
be sure to go check out this full episode to
(35:57):
hear the entire list. Right now, here's just a little
bit of movie Mike's Movie podcast. At number one, my
most underrated movie of twenty twenty four, I have My
Old Ass So Good, which I gave a four at
a five. It has a pretty decent audience score, like
a great eighty nine percent. But I think this one
comes down to the box office. Had a budget of
(36:19):
three million dollars, which is wild that they made this
movie for three million dollars, but it only made five
million dollars.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That's two million dollars.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Now.
Speaker 15 (36:27):
Though it sputtering bean in the red.
Speaker 17 (36:29):
I just think that it is hard to make a
fresh coming of age movie at this point. And I
love the formula. I could watch the same coming of
age formula in any amount of movies and I would
still enjoy There's just something special about it when done right.
And this one the twist was that she takes some mushrooms,
(36:49):
she sees her older self, which is Aubrey Plaza. She
tells her all this stuff about her future and kind
of gives her advice on what to avoid, and then
puts her phone, no in her phone, and she's able
to communicate with her. My only thing was I wanted
more Aubrey Plaza, But.
Speaker 15 (37:06):
It was cool to see Aubrey Plaza on more like
I mean, she was still her like dry, comedic self,
but a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Of an emotional Yeah.
Speaker 17 (37:12):
Well, there was a scene in this movie where I
damn near cried.
Speaker 15 (37:16):
Yeah, I think you did.
Speaker 17 (37:17):
Like I think it was there was a span of
movies there. I think this one in the Wild Robot.
We watched back to back, I believe, and both times
the movies like I almost cried.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I look over and.
Speaker 17 (37:29):
I did not expect to go there because there's just
a moment where it's like, oh, man, all this stuff
that had been building up and building up. Yeah, there's
a lot of fights between her younger self and her
older self, which I would question things that I would
be telling my younger self, and there's a moment that
just hits you right in the gut and then it
just like, oh man, I just kind of sat with it.
Speaker 15 (37:51):
What's the number one thing that you would tell your
younger self? Sitting here now as a thirty three year old,
I always have to remember, hold you are.
Speaker 17 (37:59):
It's very difficul I don't know how cliche this is,
but like, stop caring what people think. I think that
kept me from doing a lot of things that I
enjoyed younger because I was worried about how they would
be perceived by other people. And at that time, I
didn't realize that those other people would not matter when
I was older. Like look at this room now, Like
all these things that I embraced now were things that
(38:20):
I hid back then. And I think all the things
about me now that I enjoy actually about myself I
was ashamed of probably fifteen years ago. And it's hard
to say to imagine me like being cool, but I
had a feeling of like I need to be cool
because I was so one cool that I didn't want
to come across of like putting anything against me because
(38:42):
there was already a lot of things held against me.
I felt like like I was overweight, I had bad skin,
my teeth are messed up. There were just things I
felt that kept me from being cool, and I was like,
I just can't show any other weakness. I think that's
what it would be it for me. I would just
not care about what anybody else thought. And just like
the things I like, would you tell yourself?
Speaker 15 (39:01):
Mine's also cliche, and mine would be to like stop
worrying about the boys that didn't like me. Like I
just was like, no one's ever gonna like me. I'm
gonna be single forever. I felt that too, and I
was so young. But I think I think when you're
in high school and it's like you have those couples
and like ever I never had a boyfriend. You were
(39:22):
my first boyfriend.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
I damn you went my first girlfriend dates.
Speaker 15 (39:27):
Like I liked people, I talk to people, but like
no one ever really fully liked me. And I just
used to think, like I'm ugly, no one's gonna like me.
And I'm just say in retrospect, I think I was
just like too smart. I think I intimidated people like
not to toot my own horn, but I think I
just was like unapproachable because I was really smart.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I've oddly been thinking about this lately.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Is.
Speaker 17 (39:49):
I always felt that it was people not giving me
a chance. And when I look back on myself there,
I think I just didn't respect myself enough, Like I
didn't put enough effort into myself to attract anybody. I
thought it was all about looks, but I think it
was how I treated myself and probably the energy I
put out that was really what it was. And I
just thought it was, like I said, just people not
(40:10):
give me a chance. But I thought about like would
I even want to be with me then? So maybe
that's the advice I would give to myself, like, hey,
working yourself a little more, dummy.
Speaker 15 (40:19):
Yeah, I think I would tell myself to stop stressing.
Because I met you when I was twenty four. That's
that is still so young when in retrospect, I met
you when I was twenty four, I'm married to twenty seven.
Like I don't know. I think I just was like,
oh my god, I'm going to be alone forever. But
like those things feel so big when you're younger. Yeah,
(40:41):
they feel so monumental.
Speaker 17 (40:42):
When you're younger, you want to get older. When you're older,
you want to be younger. I think if I was
more specific about my advice I think it would be
that you're on your own timeline. Yeah, like nobody else
is really looking at your timeline, even though to you
it feels like, ah, I'm so behind. How am I
not at this point in my life yet? When really
nobody else cares about what's going on with you And
in the end, it doesn't really matter, like what age
(41:05):
you are when you hit these supposed milestones that you're
supposed to hit.
Speaker 15 (41:09):
I think I would also I would warn myself not
to like several of the guys that I liked. I
think I would be like, don't waste your time, don't
just don't delete his number.
Speaker 17 (41:19):
Even more specific advice, I would have told myself to
like to get into coding more like pay attention to
technology more.
Speaker 15 (41:25):
I would have told myself to purchase real estate at
the age of like five.
Speaker 17 (41:29):
I'd invested in like TikTok or something.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
I would have invested in bitcoin exactly.
Speaker 17 (41:35):
I'd have bought it when it was so cheap. It'd
be millionaires now as I tell you.
Speaker 15 (41:40):
I would have bought stock and Apple.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Would it have been as value?
Speaker 17 (41:44):
I guess back then, I feel like the time would
have to buy it would have been like the eighties.
Whenever they were first launching, it was like dirty. I
don't know if they were public by that point.
Speaker 15 (41:52):
It's not according to what one of the characters in
the Nexolas Sparks book.
Speaker 17 (41:55):
Did, But all right, that is the list.
Speaker 15 (42:07):
Cary Lone, she's a queen and talking and you saw them.
You know, she's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, so.
Speaker 13 (42:17):
Just let it flow.
Speaker 17 (42:19):
No one can do we quiet cary Lone is kind
of care Lone.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
I'm sad I was not someone who grew up watching
One Tree Hill, and now I feel like I need
to go back and binge that because after like reading
your book and then deep diving you and then I
deep dived One Tree Hill, and that show is like,
that's like an amazing That show like shaped our generation.
Like I'm forty one, and I feel like, I don't
(42:48):
know how I missed watching it, probably because I didn't
watch a whole bunch of TV growing up, but.
Speaker 18 (42:52):
That was like pretty much I know, I know, right,
that was like the show that shaped our like our minds.
I feel like I feel like that.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
And Friday Night Lights it's like One Tree Hi Lights
were the ones.
Speaker 19 (43:06):
Right, that was a big one too. Yeah, the others
felt like they were as much as we loved Gossip
Girl in the OC, they were very they lived in
that Beverly Hills nine O, two and O zone of
it's such a rare population of America who live like that.
But the kids that live like us kids in One
(43:28):
Tree Hill and the kids that lived like the Friday
Night Light kids are vastly more. Sorry my sentences aren't
working today. They'll come together eventually, but there's so many
more of a population that lives like that and things
like that and experiences life just in a small town
like that. So I feel like we really kind of
(43:49):
cornered the market on just reflecting back to teens in
America what their life was and they felt seen. And
you should go back and watch it.
Speaker 18 (44:01):
You definitely should.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
It be fun.
Speaker 18 (44:03):
I need to binge it. I love a good show.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
I have a five year old daughter and all I
watch is like Disney, and now she's into watching YouTube,
like YouTube kids and all these families just make their
own YouTube videos and I'm like, oh my god, I
literally it's torture to watch it, but it's I need
to watch like real, real content, and that's our shows
were great. You know, that's when the storylines were good.
(44:25):
They lasted a long time.
Speaker 18 (44:28):
It's just, man, what a life you've lived, Bethanie.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Okay, So now that I'm like diving into your book,
I literally you're such a good storyteller.
Speaker 18 (44:36):
First off, becauk you, I am so in the story
with you.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
When I am reading this, I feel like I feel
like I'm like in your actual brain walking starting from
your childhood with your parents.
Speaker 18 (44:52):
Like it's just it makes so much sense, like it's
you always wonder.
Speaker 7 (44:58):
I'm from Waco, Texas, and we had David Crash in
the branch Davidians.
Speaker 18 (45:01):
We actually, oh boy, yes, that's right, of course you did.
Speaker 8 (45:04):
You had a.
Speaker 18 (45:05):
Cult in our in our town. And there's been like.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
Lots of other little pop up cults that lots of
families join and they're integrated into the city. But it's
definitely always been like cults. So there's a lot of
culty vibes in Wacos. So I've always grown up with
interesting Yeah, I've always grown up like with a big
understanding of cults.
Speaker 18 (45:25):
But like I always wondered, how does this happen? Like
how does so unusual?
Speaker 19 (45:30):
But maybe it's not unusual. I haven't. I'm not a researcher,
but it seems strange to me that in a town
like Waco, where it's known for being the center of
this massive cult event, that others would pop up, so
many others would still pop up in that region that
like people didn't quite learn the lesson.
Speaker 18 (45:53):
I guess it's that is wild. It is wild, And
there's some other I don't know if they're called cults.
What do you call them?
Speaker 7 (46:04):
A focus group or like a what does the other
word you use for that?
Speaker 18 (46:08):
It's not cult, but it's like a control group.
Speaker 19 (46:11):
Yeah, high demand, high demand group great, which that is
what a cult is. It's it's the definitions are interchangeable.
Speaker 18 (46:22):
High demand group think.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
I love the group think because I actually was talking
to my friend. We're in Georgia and I we're saying
with some friends, and we were talking about just faith
and how people can have all sorts of.
Speaker 18 (46:38):
Rules with it.
Speaker 7 (46:39):
Like, so I have some friends right now who I
consider really great friends who are like not practicing yoga
because they feel like that is sacrilegious. Then I'm like,
and you can probably find all of these spiritual practices
to back it. But at the same time, like I
personally have had so many spiritual experiences that I have
(46:59):
had myself that it's like, I know, I have to
trust my own intuition and not other people's advice. What
might be good for someone, or what might someone might
feel like is their path, that does not mean it
is my spiritual path.
Speaker 18 (47:13):
And I love that.
Speaker 7 (47:14):
I feel like that's sort of the point that I'm
getting from your book is yes, someone can have a
spiritual idea and that can truly be their road, But like,
if it does not align with you, and if it
is not your internal guidance system, like really you need
to examine that and really take note of why are
you doing something just because someone is telling you.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
To do them if you don't really know why?
Speaker 19 (47:39):
Right, Yeah, it's huge. We do so much in our
life and we don't ask why why do I do this?
I am very neurodivergent, and my tendency is to examine things,
and so I appreciate that not everyone's brain works the
(48:01):
same way that mine does. It's taken me a while
to get to that point. I used to be so
frustrated that people seem to think I was overthinking things
all the time. And people thought I was, you know,
pushing too many buttons, and I was like, oh, that's
because the neurotypical brain, most people's brains aren't endlessly curious
(48:22):
about the why, and so I try and leave space
for that. Just everybody's brain works differently, you know, But
for me, I just I don't know how you can
go through life not asking yourself why? Why?
Speaker 11 (48:39):
Why?
Speaker 19 (48:39):
Because even when I was in this group, it's the
why that got me in, but it's also the why
that got me out. Like it's just the most important question.
I think you can ask yourself with everything. Why do
I eat this? Why am I I'm getting married? Why
do I walk down an aisle? Why? Why do do
I need to keep my room clean? Why do I
(49:01):
need to walk my dogs? Why do I pray? Why?
And follow it all the way down? And I think,
I mean, some roads just keep on going. I don't
know that we'll ever arrive at the answer, but you
certainly can arrive at like new layers of understanding of
yourself and other people. Sorry, I didn't mean to go
(49:22):
on a tangent, but yes, you're right that one of
the main points of the book is nobody else can
live your life for you, you have to move with
the God of your understanding at the pace that you're at.
And you also can't condemn or judge other people for
the pace that they're at and where they are. You
didn't grow up as them. You don't know their life,
(49:44):
and you don't know how God is speaking to them
or planning to speak to them. You just don't know
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