October 16, 2024 • 54 mins
Let’s talk Reparations. This was not George Floyd 2.0. TX Sen. Ted Cruz.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're talking about the Harris Faulkner town hall and the
way that many women are reacting to their daughters being
forced to compete against men, to men being allowed to
enter their locker rooms. Harris Faulkner asks, in that town
hall filled with only women, I'd encourage you guys to
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go look at watch it and maybe share it with
women voters out there who are open to voting for
Trump and maybe considering not doing it. But Harris Faulkner asked,
how many women in the audience are concerned that their
daughters may have to compete against men? Every hand goes
up this issue. Initially men were like me, we're driving
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it because we saw it as crazy. And men tend
to in general be bigger sports fans than women, and
I think men understand the concept of men being bigger, stronger,
and faster, particularly if you played sports than women did.
But now, thanks to many people think Riley Gain speaking out,
women are finding their own voice on this issue. And
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I think a lot of women were afraid that they
weren't being kind enough, or they weren't being caring or
empathetic enough for the trans community. And that moment is
passed and women are taking a substantial lead and talking
about this issue. And I think Riley Gains, Jennifer Say,
who is out there, former women's gymnast who has her
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own clothing company. I think a lot of women's athletes
are saying enough is enough. We're not going to stand
for that. And it's going on right now in the
battleground state of Nevada where women's volleyball team said we
don't want to play against San Jose State University that
has a man that is dominating women's college volleyball on
the team, and a lot of women are saying, we're
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not playing in a match if they're going to have
a man competing against us.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's just not fair.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I also just wait for there to be a real
defense of this practice. Notice that whenever it comes up,
they're these there's these steps that the left will go through.
It doesn't happen that often. Why is it such a
big deal to you? Why are you being so mean?
Why can't you just be inclusive? They won't address the
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core issue, which is not only is this unfair, biologically unfair?
I mean why even have why have age differences in sports?
Why not let sixteen year olds play ten year olds
in soccer or basketball? Yeah, exactly, you know why not?
I mean, why do we have these separations because we're
trying to create some baseline of biologically based fairness and
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they can't actually address this or what do they do?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
They attack?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a little bit like what I dealt with on
the Bill Marshow. I'm smoking them on all the arguments.
So it's like, well you're not like that, cool? Yeah,
well what does that have.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
To do with anything?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, they can't make a coherent defense of any
of this, and in a sense, Kamala, I'm going to
offer something up.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Clay. Kamala is actually the perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Candidate for this moment in Democrat politics because her incoherence
on everything, the fact that she stands for nothing except
power is a perfect encapsulation of what the Democrat Party
of today is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And the fact that she says.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Her principles haven't changed when she's changed her mind on
everything is a perfect a perfect overview of where the
Democrat Party is right now. Nothing makes sense and it's
not supposed to shut up and let them run your life.
We've got another cut that I wanted to play. We
mentioned that Kamala did a town hall, and every time
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she does one of these interviews, there is a question
that to me becomes a central negativity associated with the
interview that she did, whether there's not a thing she
would change from the view and Colbet most recently, every
time she speaks she says something that turns off a
large majority of the population. I think that's why they
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hit her to such an extent. But Buck, she was
asked about reparations. She in the past has said that
she believes reparation should happen. California studied the issue and
even Gavin Newsom said, yeah, I understand the recommendation, but no, California,
which never permitted slavery, by the way, and has a
relatively small as a percentage of the population overall black population.
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I think California is only six or eight percent black.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That sometimes surprises people large Asian, large Hispanic, large white population,
but not that large of a black population. But she
was asked and Gavin Newsom said, the cost on this
is just outrageous.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
There's no way we can do it.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Basically, thanks for the recommendation, but we're not going to
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
She said, we need to study it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Cost estimates around twelve trillion dollars for reparations. Buck, here's
Kamala on racial reparations.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yes, I'm running to be a president for all Americans.
That being said, I do have clear eyes about the
disparities that exist and the context in which they exist,
meaning history to your point. So my agenda, well, first
of all, on the point of reparations, it has to
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be studied. There's no question about that. And I've been
very clear about that position.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, let's talk about this. First of all.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I love when she says I've been very clear when
she gives a non answer. This should be like if
you were like if Clay asked me, He's like, Buck,
what do you think about this? And I was like,
I played the fifth as I have been very clear
about my answer. It's like, well, you're not answering. Actually,
you're choosing to give a total non answer. In this process,
a few things that would come up, and this is
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one of reparations I might add to the national electorate.
Incredibly unpopular, eighty twenty against at least, yeah, eighty twenty
against at least for obvious reasons. A lot of people
oppose this. But if you're going to have reparations. Here
are the questions have to ask, who gets them? What
do you have to do to qualify for them?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
How much?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Questions like, if you're a quarter African American, do you
do you get like twenty five percent of what the
full reparations package would be? You know, how far back
do you go? I mean, if you're half African American,
let's say you get a different percent. These are the
questions you would have to answer. If you are a
Nigerian immigrants, do the United States have a higher than
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most groups in this country household income? But would they
know they wouldn't qualify for reparations? Okay, well who does?
Who doesn't? At what point do you start to make
these distinctions or rather how far back do you have
to go?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And the other part of the clay is it's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Immoral because you're taking money from people today with the
force of the state based on some historical you know,
some historical story. And then also it's never enough. This
is the part of it that everybody knows, right, there
would never be enough money in this program, just like
all other redistribution of wealth programs. It's never enough to
deal with the problem. Well, I mean it's it's messy
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on so many different levels. To your point, you have
to do percentage analysis, right, because huge percentages of the
people who live in America here were not in America
when slavery occurred. So if you're an immigrant from from China,
why in the world should you be paying reparations to
black people? It makes no sense, right, So it's the
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huge percentage population wasn't here. Also, just you know, Jews
who fled the Holocaust in the Second World War, okay,
you just got here in like nineteen fifty or you know,
nineteen forty whatever, they would be paying reparations, among many
other people, to the black community for slavery that has
been outlawed for one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I also always enjoy two other points. One, I'm a
history nerd. So are we just forgetting the hundreds of
thousands of people who died in the Civil War? I
got an ancestor who died fighting in the Civil War.
He was motivated in some way over the issue of slavery.
Those people's lives don't matter. Some of us, literally who
are white, carry the blood of people who fought in
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the Civil War on both sides and that's a whole
historical mess in and of itself. But those guys who
actually gave their lives, some of them to enslavery, don't count, right.
I think you'd have a very fair point if we're
going to do this. Historical ancestry is something you're responsible for.
You know, my family are Irish immigrants, and the Irish
side that got here into the North, it's very likely
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they fought for the Union. So am I exempted?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right? Do you get credited?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Do you get credited because you had Union soldiers who
fought in your background. Here's the other thing buck that
nobody really wants to talk about. Well, shouldn't Africa pay
a substantial amount of the reparations here? Since the slaves
were initially enslaved in Africa and Africans profited immensely off
the slave trade, It's as if there is no reparations
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responsibility for.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That aspect of the slave trade.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I also think that you know, you can look at
the closest thing that we've had in this country to
something along the lines of there are also people who,
by the way, I would I would point out, would
would claim that overall, you know, the welfare state that
this country has been supporting for the last seventy years
or so.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Is a form of.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Not even just for the African American community, but across
the board, meant to repair historical injustices by for dispossessed communities.
And I mean, and you know, it's been a lot
of money. It's the point, right, there's already a lot
of money that is going to help people in this country.
We have a trillion dollar Welfares STA in this country.
Beyond that, though, you look at the Native American population
in the you know Indian population, I think it's in
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we're supposed are we supposed to call them?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The you know indigenous tribes, The name keeps changing, which
I think is just meant to see who will be who.
It's obedience training for the rest of us. I might add,
you know, you're not You're not supposed to say Eskimo
anymore because Eskimo is only one tribe and they prefer
I think more generally Inuit or Alaska listeners. We've got
a great station up up in Anchorage. They would know
more about this than I do. But oh, you know,
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if you say Eskimo, you're being rude. I mean, we
can't keep up with all this. What's the name? Tough
to know the name because no written language, you know,
not a lot of textual basis for this stuff. But
on the Native American reservations clay across the country, this
has been a program for a long time, and there
have been special incentives given to those communities, and we
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as a country, we never even really look at Native
American reservations are a horrible state of affairs when you
look at things like domestic abuse, alcoholism, violent crime per capita.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
These are not happy places. They're reservations.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And then we have people in Oklahoma listening who know
exactly about this. We've had the governor of Oklahoma, who
himself is a Native American by the way, member of
a tribe, Kevin Stitt. And this is not a program
that has been successful at all really when you look
at it. So why would we do these sort of
race based preference programs, especially after the Constitution has already
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told us that an admissions it's bad, in region, distribution
of wealth it's good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I would also add, historically, buck and this really gets
people all flummoxed. Remember we were a colony of great,
great Britain for the vast majority of time that there
was slavery in the United States. Why should the United
States be responsible from sixteen nineteen to seventeen seventy six
or seventeen eighty three, England should have to pay all
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of the reparations to slaves in the United States because
England was the power here. We were colonies. We were
until we revolted. We didn't have democracy in this country.
So I never hear anybody say, Okay, well, England is
on the hook. We only had legal slavery in the
United States for eighty years, and to your point, seventeen
eighty three to eighteen sixty three. To your point, buck,
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we've since had the welfare state, which to a large
extent since the nineteen sixties has existed with the idea
being that we're going to provide some form of compensation
and redress to people who were discrim against. We've had
the welfare state and the Civil Rights era almost as
long now in the United States since we had slavery.
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So anyway, I just loved the history of it. Very
few people actually dive into it, which is why, on
its face, eighty percent of some aut Americans say this
is a joke. Kamala believes it should happen in twenty nineteen,
and she's saying now it should be studied still in
twenty twenty four. Again another swinging amiss. Look, this is
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Second hour of.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Play and Buck kicks off right now.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Kamala Harris out there actually campaigning, so I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Guess we've got to give her credit for that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Or are appearing in media talking to people, not just
reading off of glass in front of a pre selected
crowd of people told to applaud and cheer at the
pre selected moments. There's some interesting stuff though, that has
come out in the last twenty four hours, and one
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I will just say, there's body camera footage of this,
so you can watch. The entire incident was just released. Now,
this is from I think September. Clay is that when
the incident happened.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I believe that's right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yes, yeah, So oftentimes the body camera footage of a
police involved lethal force incident is held for a period
of time.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
The foot come out and it is.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Of a police officer who is Asian American making a
wellness check or conducting a wellness check on a woman
who is You can see in the video she's emotionally disturbed.
The NYPD parlance, she's called it an EDP and mostly
disturbed person. He's there to check on her, get her
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help and resources. Knocks on the door. She comes at
the door very aggressively. Now she is six foot six.
She had previously been the center on the Georgetown University
women's basketball team. I think that is also an important
detail because when you're talking about somebody's ability to harm
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you with any object, but certainly a long looks kind
of like a like a butcher knife or a kitchen knife.
Someone six foot six, they have long reach, they have leverage,
They can kill you very very quickly. The officer is
yelling to put it down, put it down.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Put it down. She does.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He gets cut numerous times across the face with this blade.
You can see on the body camera he is dripping blood. Okay,
and he's shouting for this woman to drop the enough
and I understand it's clearly having a psychotic episode. He
pulls his firearm and he shoots her and she dies.
There are people since this video has come out, and
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I don't mean a few, a lot of them who
are trying to make the case online that the officer
did something wrong. This is how completely insane the anti
cop left and the social justice left and the racial
justice left, the BLM remnants out there, if you will,
the remnants of the BLM movement has become that now
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the expectation is that you might just have to get
stabbed to death if a person of color is having
a psychotic break and law enforcement shows up. This is
the new standard that the left seems to want to
engage in. There are all these people Clay who are saying, oh, well,
the all officer could have used a taser, or why
couldn't the officer have done some jiu jitsu or something,
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or what if a person is within the real standard,
they tell us and CIA is if you're coming from
the draw, which this officer was. He didn't he didn't
knock on the door with his firearm in his hands.
If you're coming out of the draw, it's basically twenty feet.
If a person is within twenty I think twenty one
is what they say, but twenty feet effectively, and they
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have an edged weapon.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Even by the time you draw and you.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Try to try to get target on the threat, you
were likely to get stabbed. This officer was stabbed numerous times.
He's dripping blood. He shoots this woman who is trying
to kill him on video, and it's clear. You can
see the whole thing, and it's a horrible, violent incident,
but you can see the whole thing, and there are
activists and left wing individuals and Democrats and Kamala voters
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who are out there saying that the cop did something wrong.
I just think this is important content xclay for where
the Democrat Party really is on this issue that they
will not I mean, people can say whatever, and I
understand there's always going to be fringe elements in any
politics that are going to get something wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
They're not going to condemn this.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Why doesn't Kamala Harris put out a statement of solidarity
with the officer in this case, saying we've seen the
body camera footage. The officer did nothing wrong. He was
defending himself. It's a tragic incident. It's no one's celebrating this.
It's a tragic incident. But the cop did nothing wrong.
The Democrat party is antique cop and everybody needs to
remember it. I got something to add here too. Georgetown
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Women's basketball put out a tweet saying Georgetown Women's Basketball
mourns the tragic loss of Sidney Wilson, class of thirteen,
Forever a Hoya hashtag Hoya saxa with a photo of
her in her uniform. Should a university send out a
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loss of life message when your your former player tried
to murder an innocent police officer. I mean, this is
embarrassing for Georgetown University. And I look, you and I
both spent a lot of time in DC. Georgetown is
a fabulous location. It's beautiful. I know people take shots
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at DC. We were just talking about this with your
dad at dinner recently. I mean, it's a fabulous area.
It's been historically a fantastic university. But the idea that
you would send this out from an athletic department account.
Is I think, frankly, an extreme embarrassment to Georgetown University. Secondly,
buck And and not connected to this story directly, but
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I was reading the New York Post. We were up
in New York over the weekend and I screenshoted this
in the In the New York Post, there is a
massive article, Uh, the number of NYPD cops assaulted on
the job has skyrocketed for one percent this year, and
it's risen steeply for five consecutive years in New York City.
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What is going on here? There's a real war on cops.
And when you say cops are racist, cops are killing
innison black people. The response there is not just that
you're discrediting police, it's that attacking and fighting with them
is acceptable because they are the bad guy. We are
creating a culture that attacks police. And also on this
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Georgetown story, Bucket, this is also I think a sign
of desperation. They're trying to find another George Floyd because
they're doing poorly with minority voters and they're trying to
inflame racial tensions, and they wanted to use this Sidney Wilson.
If this cop didn't have a body cam on, and
if you couldn't see that she had a big knife
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and she was running at him, they would you know
what they would have done. They would have said, oh,
he planted that knife. She never had a knife, She
was one hundred percent incident. Her family would have come
out and said she was not a violent person. She
never would have engaged in this way. They're trying to
cover it all up. That's what they would have done.
What body cameras have really done. And this is a
sensitive subject that a lot of people don't really want
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to talk about, but body cameras for law enforcement have
saved at this point, just based on incidents that we've
all seen, hundreds if not thousands, of cops from being maligned, fired,
and probably imprisoned, yes for things they did not do,
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because the left loves to play this game of the
cops are usually the bad guys. Now usually, actually that's
not the case. In fact, ninety nine percent of the
time when cops have to do a use lethal force,
it is entirely justified. This is a textbook case of
justified lethal force. It could there is no such thing
as forget that he's even a cop. Any human being
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would have been justified in shooting this. And again I
understand she's having a psychotic episode. She's you don't have
to die because somebody else is having a psychotic episode.
That's the bab You have the right of self defense.
He did not initiate any violence or force. She came
at him. And I know for a lot of you,
you're like buck, but this is this is so obvious,
like why are we even talking about it? Look a
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look at the Georgetown statement, But look at what a
lot of the activists are saying online. They're trying to
make this a thing. They're trying to, to Clay's point,
create a last minute mobilization of particularly the black community.
And if even with all the facts as they are,
if you didn't have clear body camera footage, it would
be cop shot black woman during wellness check. And and
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you know this was a murder, that that is what
they would be saying. The only reason that this cop,
who as I said, was dripping blood everywhere, I mean,
he got stabbed numera, he was slashing at him with
his knife. The only reason that I'm CONFIDENTI well, first
of all, you got governor young Kin in Virginia. Thank god, Okay,
you don't have some communist, lunatic governor at the top
of the law enforcement apparatus, you know. I mean, how
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if this were Minnesota. You know Minnesota loves to throw
their cops under the bus. Is the Democrat state virgin
with a Democrat governor Virginia. I think that it's not
going to get that high. But he is shown to
have acted entirely, lawfully and reasonably this cop, and thank heavens,
he had his body camera on or else, Clay, you
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and I both know his life would be over, his
family would be in hiding because of all the lunatic
BLM supporters and all the Democrat voters whould be threatening
their lives over this totally. And it would be interesting
to talk and I know you have talked to a
lot of cops. It's more likely, I think, Buck, that
somebody loses their life because they don't engage in protective
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act because they're worried.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
About their life being ruined.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
If they're wrong, then it is that somebody engaged in
wrong behavior. But the bodycam is the ultimate truth teller,
and as long as it's on, there is an opportunity
for everyone to experience what it's actually like in real
time to try to be a police officer in this country.
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And it's a really hard job. And when you this
is why I've had this conversation with my kids, I
would encourage all of you to have this conversation with
your kids. I'm speaking as a lawyer. Now, if a
police officer engages in behavior that you believe is unlawful,
the best thing to do is comply still and prepare
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to have a legal process going forward, because almost all
these situations buck when you go back and look at them.
If the initial person who stopped had just complied with
the officer requests, there would be no escalation of violence.
I'm not saying that every police officer behaves constitutionally. I'm
not saying that every police officer is perfect. None of
us are perfect at our jobs. But when you have
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people believe leaving that police officers are fundamentally racist and
allied against them, you get what's happening in New York City,
which is a skyrocket which I bet is reflected all
over the country of people attacking police officers, which creates
more violent situations and more unnecessary deaths than would occur
if you just complied with the commands of a police officer.
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And there's the compliance issue. There's also it has become
and I think a lot of it is from these
sharing of these videos on social media where they jump
right to when the officer has to wrestle somebody to
the ground or the officer has to use some degree
of force because of non compliance. It has become very
much more acceptable, I think, in some quarters and in
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some communities for people to just say no, I'm not
getting arrested today, or no, I'm not complying today with
a lawful order. And you know, if cops don't have
the ability to put their hands on you and put
you in cuffs when you have broken the law just
because you say no, then we have no law. Then
the whole then the whole thing falls apart. And this
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is where a lot of I think the stuff that
you see online is just making the whole situation much worse,
which is people act like.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
The why is the cop doing this?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Like it's just a matter of and then they put
in you know, they fill in the blank because the
person says, I'm not going to comply with the authority
vested in this officer by the state to enforce the law.
And you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, people
could show up and my door too, say sir, you're
under arrest, and I go, no, no, I'm not. Well,
well what happens then? You know, they can either grab
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me and handcuff me and take me in for processing,
or I'm above the law.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And there are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
People that you see in these exchanges who just think, no, sorry,
not getting arrested today. And that, by the way, that
happened with Eric Garner who got put in a choke hold.
He was just like, no, I'm not getting arrested today.
And I know it was only a minor things. Well,
the whole George Floyd story, Buck, if you go back,
I could look at it. If he had just complied,
he was passing a counterfeit bill, he was high on drugs.
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I still believe that he wasn't killed by the police officer.
I mean, I think there's certainly reasonable doubt as to
whether or not the police officer's action killed him. The
whole story, by and large, when you actually break it
down moment by moment, is a complete fiction. In the
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way that it was portrayed to the vast majority of
the American public. I think Officer I think Officer Chauvin
did not get a fair trial. I think there was
not justice in that situation. And I disagree with people
that freak out at me when I say this. I
simply when they say, like, well, he was asphyxiated for
nine minutes. How many people in the audience have done
jiu jitsu? How many of you know how long does
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it take if you're actually cutting off someone's airway for
them to pass out from that.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's not nine minutes. Everybody much faster than that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, he wasn't trying to asphyxiate anybody. The guy had
a lethal dose of fentanel George Floyd lethal dose of
fentanel in his system, and his heart gave out, and
he was in effectively a panic and completely freaking out
from the very beginning of when the offseas said he
couldn't bathe in the car, he said there were a
lot of times where he said he couldn't breathe. My
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point here is just play. This is the lack of
context understanding. This is why our friend Ryan Gerdusky went
on CNN. This is en viral.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We had that clip. We should grab you. I want
to come back to you. I give credit to him.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, yeah, Ryan's Ryan's doing great work over at CNN
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Speaker 1 (29:59):
Welcome back again, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. CNN trying
to figure out what its identity is going forward. Box
News by far the biggest cable news channel. MSNBC has
diehard lesbian viewers and.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Out there right now.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
CNN is now maybe trying to decide that they want
to actually appeal to people who want to see debate
topics truly debated. And our friend Ryan gardesk, you we've
had on the program, went on and schooled a lot
of CNN panelists. Here is that cut twenty nine.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
The post George Floyd riots resulted in excess of over
fifteen thousand black male deaths in this country. How the
surge of violent crime, It was like Ferguson the first
Effect Florida.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Fact. You can explain to me how George Floyd's death.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yea result causation. Yes, really are what happens, says.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
After the Ferguson riot and after the Floyd riot, policemen,
in fear of their jobs, many times in political coverage,
pulled back from their jobs, resulting in an increasing listen,
I got to stop there there, Hold you can look
at We got.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
To stop you there because you're literally making a connection
out of your own conjecture.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Cannot It's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Look up, Look up the Ferguson effect, look up the
Floyd effect. It is a real term. It's a real term.
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Between two things.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'm not having more flashbacks here to.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Let him speak, Let him speak, let him at least
finish his point. It's so annoying when these TV pundits
do not let somebody finish what they're saying, is clay.
His point is is obvious, which is that BLM riots
led to d policing, which led to more people dying,
particularly more young black men dying.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's all correct.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
The fact that they don't even know anything about it
is evidence of how you know, we make fun of
you watching Morning Joe. I read the New York Times,
the Washington Post, we know their arguments as well or
better than they do. They don't know our arguments at all.
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Speaker 2 (33:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm hearing rumors yesterday that Clay a lah Happy Gilmour
just took a little running start at the taunt To
Towers golf outing yesterday and put one four hundred yards
right right on the green.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He couldn't even hit it from the normal teas they
gave him a special tee where it was way back
we had a ring ring. We had a ringer on
our team, Buck, who was a former college golfer and
he plays golf still a lot. And when you play
golf with somebody who's actually really good, golf's a hard game.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Most people stink at it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Even if you think you're pretty good at golf, you
probably hit a lot of really bad shots. This guy was,
I mean, just smoking the ball off the tee all
day and uh and so he carried us to a
large extent. But I was not an unmitigated disaster. And
that's not bad considering the last time I played golf
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was months ago. So and I didn't even take a
practice swing before I got out there today because I
was yesterday because I was running around trying to take
care of a bunch of stuff in the morning, so
I would give myself a solid performance.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Great.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I hadn't played since I did the live pro am
if you remember that in Nashville, like in June, so
it's been several months and I wasn't very good in
the meantime. I'm just I'm hearing big hitter the Clay Travis.
That's what I'm told, you know, to big big swing
up there. Let's go back to Ted Cruz here, Ted
Cruz against Colin Allred last night on the debate stage
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on this issue of men playing or boys playing in girls' sports. Really,
it's the main thing is once boys hit puberty and
girls hit puberty, the physiological differences are obvious and very
real and very powerful. When it comes to sports. The
physiological differences are real even before that, they're real in
the womb. But I'm just saying the strength and speed
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differential once you know, boys and girls hit twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old, that becomes very obvious. This is how
Ted Kruz laid this out in terms of policies and
all read play five.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
He is a co sponsor, and he voted for a
law called the Equality Act. The Equality Act mandated that
boys be able to go in girls' bathrooms and their
locker rooms and their changing rooms.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
He voted for it. That is his record. Number two.
There was a bill.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
It was a very simple bill. It was narrowly defined.
It was protecting women in girls' sports. He voted no.
The only issue on that bill was whether biological boys
should compete against our daughters.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That's not fair.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Congressman all Read was an NFL linebacker. It is not
fair for a man to compete against women. The third time,
he signed onto something called the Transgender Bill of Rights
explicitly and he co sponsored it mandated that boys compete
against girls sports. And just two weeks ago, Congressman all
Read joined one hundred radical Democrats in demanding that our
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military allowed drag shows on military bases, pay for soldiers
to have sex changes, you using taxpayer money, and pay
for children to be sterilized and have sex changes on
military basis.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know, Za, that's tough to come back from.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
In Texas, I was gonna say, what do you say
if you're all ready just that's all lies to say
that all lies.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
People have goods.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's running scared to your point, Buck, He's raised a
ton of money, but he now has an ad up
saying that he doesn't think that men should be able
to compete in women's sports. But I think that's why
this is crystallizing to such an extent for swing voters.
Imagine if you're a Latino voter in Texas and you
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see that and you think this is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Again.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You can debate border policy and some of that gets confusing.
You can debate tax policy, it's it's easy to get
mucked up in the details.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Whether a dude should be able.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
To compete as a women's athlete and win a women's
championship is so crystallizing that I think it's cutting through
the noise as we come and come down the home
stretch here. And I hope Kamala Harris gets asked about
this because you thought you've heard word salads from her
so far, Buck, Can you imagine her trying to respond
on this issue.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, but I hope we get a chance to see it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
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We are scheduled to be joined by Senator Ted Cruz soon.
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He had a debate last night with Colin Allred in
their Texas Senate race that is one of I would
say probably two, although Nebraska we may need to get
deb Fisher on at some point. The Republicans are looking
really good to take control of the Senate, Tim Sheehey
and Montana is running a great campaign, looks likely to
beat Tester of West Virginia is going to flip. Has
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been expected for a while. Bernie Marino is I think
gonna win in Ohio tomorrow. We're gonna be joined by
Eric Hubdy, who is looking really good in Wisconsin. We
need to get Mike Rodgers from Michigan on a lot
of these battlegrounds eight all over the Midwest, and we're
going to be joined soon by by your friend Dave
McCormick in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Ted Cruise is with us. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
We'll get to the larger picture in a moment. But
what are you seeing on the on the ground, Senator?
Appreciate you making the time to join us. Great job
in the debate last night. We talked about it some
earlier on the show. What are you seeing on the
ground for both yourself and Trump and what are voters
most focused on in your experience?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Well, Claig, great to be with you guys, look at
it is a real battle in Texas. My biggest challenge
in the race is frankly complacency that people say, listen,
it's Texas, You're a Republican, this is easy. I think
that's objectively false. Chuck Schumer has been explicit I am
his number one target in the country, and Schumer and
George Sorows are flooding one hundred and fifty million dollars
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into the state. I'm getting pummeled on TV. I've been
massively outspent, and there now been more than a dozen
polls that show this race is a one point race,
or a two point race, or a three point race.
They are all in and it is a battle. Right
I'm right in the middle of a fifty three stop
bus tour all over the state of Texas. I'm in
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witchdaff Falls, Texas right now, headed up to Amarilla. Right
after that. We're criss crossing the state. But it is
a battle, and it's a one or two or three
point state where we are being massively outspent right now.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
You know, Senator Cruz, We've got a lot of people
listening right now who live in the great state of
Texas and I think to some of them it might
even be a surprise that you're in anything even resembling
a close race.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I think, on the one.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Hand, you know, you've just been a fixture as a
Conservative senator for a while now, and people just expect,
kind of expect you to be there. But we're here
to tell them all. If you don't want your favorite
TV show going off the air, so to speak, you
got to make sure you actually watch. You got to
show up. How can people help at this point? What
are some of the groups that you'd like to see
getting more activated and involved, and what has to happen
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to make sure that we pull this across the finish
line and you get six more years.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Well, there are two things that matter enormously. Number One,
if you're in Texas, come out and vote early. Voting
starts next week on Monday, So come out and vote early,
and get your friends to vote early. Pick up the
phone and call your friends, email your friends, text your sister,
your son, your next door neighbor, your co worker, get
them to vote. Turnout matters enormously. And then secondly, I
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would ask every one of your listeners whether you're in
Texas or whether you're in any other state. Go to
our website. It's Ted Cruz dot org. Ted Cruz dot org,
Ted Cruz dot org. Go to the website and make
a contribution. Give ten dollars or twenty five or fifty dollars,
or maybe you can even give one hundred or five
hundred or one thousand. But whatever you can give, please
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go right now to Ted Cruz dot org because we
are getting swamped. Schumeran soro us. Look, at some level,
it's not complicated. If you are a hard partisan Democrat
after Donald Trump, there is nobody in the country you
want to beat more than me, And so every radical
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left wing Democrat gives money to my opponent. When my
opponent spoke at the Democrat convention in Chicago, the entire
stadium spontaneously began chanting beat Ted Cruz. I was the
only person that got that particular treatment. Guys, I'll tell you,
I'm actually pretty proud of that. You had twenty thousand
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hardcore radicals who I think are trying to destroy America
and they see me as one of the principal impediments
standing in their way. Now, I'll tell you what happened
to my opponent, Colin Allred, who is a very very
left wing Democrat. He raised over a million dollars in
the next twenty four hours, and so that money he
is trying to lie to the voters of Texas. He's
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trying to claim run away from his record. The debate
last night was all about him running away from his record.
But the only way we can counteract that is with
the resources to communicate my record in his, and to
do that takes your listeners going to Ted Cruz dot
org right now and giving generously at Ted Cruse dot org.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
We played some of the clips from your debate last night, Senator,
and it seems particularly the case that sometimes, as you
well know, races can come down to one issue that
just really connects with voters. It feels like Colin alread
your opponent his refusal to condemn men pretending to be
women and playing women's sports, particularly because he's actually an athlete.
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He played football, he played in the NFL, played college football.
He knows better than anybody else. This is not some
guy sitting in a university faculty lounge arguing about transgender issues.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
He knows how much bs this is. Are you seeing
that cut through?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Because that the town Hall that Trump just did with
Harris Faulkner today, every woman raised her hand when she
asked whether they were concerned about their daughters or granddaughters
competing against men in men and women's sports.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Are you seeing that resonate with your voters?
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Absolutely, it is resonating powerfully. And and and look like
you've talked about this issue for a long time. You
obviously come from the world of sports, and so you've
been really vocal in taking on this lunacy and doing
so early on. But but it is an issue that
that it really shows how radical and extreme Colin already
is that that he has four different times supported and
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voted for boys competing against girls sports. He's voted for
boys going to girls' bathrooms, going to the girls locker rooms,
going to girls changing rooms. And for the radical democrat,
your daughter, your granddaughter, she has no rights, she has
no right not to be at her changing room next
to a fully naked grown man, and and and that's
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that's just fundamentally wrong. And and and this issue is
about fairness. You know, it didn't used to be controversial
to observe that boys and girls are different, that men
and women are different. And we all saw the ridiculousness
of two biological men at the Olympics dominating women's boxing.
You know that is and Clay You put your your
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finger on exactly where this is resonating. It's funny the
media thinks that that the people who care about this
are are the crazies, and it is it is moderate
undecided women that that recognize this is really unfair and
it speaks volumes that at the debate, Colin Allred tried
to keep saying that's that's not I don't support boys
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competing against girls, and he's just flat outlying because he
can say that in the debate, but every time he's
voted on it, he's voted the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Speaking of Senator Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz dot org for
those of you in Texas or will I guess anywhere
right what a pitch in and help out Ted Cruz
dot org. Right now they're spending one hundred and fifty
million dollars against you.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Senator Cruz.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
The how concerned should peop both be right now about
the California of Texas. It's something that I know Democrats
for a long time have been hoping to achieve. What
are the long term trends and what do you think
can be done about it?
Speaker 7 (46:14):
So it's a very real issue, and I will say
there are countervailing factors. So there's some people who leave
California who lead blue states, and they're fed up. They're
fed up with the high taxes, they're fed up with
the high regulations, the shutdowns, the woke policies, and they
look around the country and they say, where do I
want to be and they pick Texas. And the data
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show actually those folks are more conservative than the median voter.
They show up here, they buy a pickup truck, a
hat and boots and a shotgun. And I call them
refugees for freedom. I want every one of them to
come to Texas and to be here and to fight
for our freedoms. There's another group, which is a company
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moves to Texas and they for all their employees, and
the employees didn't necessarily decide I want to be in Texas.
They just stick with their jobs. Those guys tend to
vote exactly like they did where they came from. And
in many ways, Texas is a victim of our own
success because we're the best place in the country to
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run a business. And so we have so many businesses
moving to Texas that they are bringing in hundreds of
thousands of employees from California and other Blue states, and
so that influx, they're cross cutting instincts. But the second group,
it's dangerous because they're voting just like they did in La. Ted.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
First of all, everybody go to Ted Cruz dot org,
go donate to him. I want to build on this
because I do think this is part of a larger
picture here. If you're looking at the national Senate race,
Republicans are looking really good in Montana, West Virginia's flipping,
you're starting to see panic. I think on the Democrat side,
they are now just trying to what your state because
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they're terrified of some of the trend lines they're seeing elsewhere.
And if they could knock you off, they feel like
maybe they've got some chance to try to retain their majority.
So this is a nationalized play. Really, it's not about Texas.
It's about a desperate ploy to try to retain the
Senate in a larger national context on the map. Is
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that what you think a lot of this money is
motivated by.
Speaker 7 (48:25):
I think that's absolutely right. And look, let's break it
down in different options that can happen anyone in business
or life. You think about best case scenario, worst case scenario.
You try to give probabilities. All of us hope we
have a fantastic election in November. We hope that Donald
Trump is reelected as president, that we win a Republican senative,
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Republican House. That would be very, very good. A lot
of good would come of it. We will secure the border,
we will cut taxes, we will end the war on energy,
we will bring down inflation, we will end the wars abroad.
Israel will defeat Hamas. There's a lot of good that
will come of that. But on the other hand, it
might be a bad election. The numbers are close enough.
It could be if God forbid Kamala Harris wins. I
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think it is likely that the Democrats also will win
the House. In my judgment, the White House and the
House of Representatives are positively correlated. They're going to go together.
If the Democrats win both the White House and the House,
then the Senate becomes orders of magnitude more important. It
is the only check and balance to stop the country
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from plunging over the cliff. And you laid out the
math exactly right. Today, the Democrats have a fifty one
to forty nine majority in the Senate. We're going to
win West Virginia. The Democrats have essentially conceded it, so
that takes it to fifty to fifty. And right now
we are leading in Montana by four to six points.
If we win West Virginia and Montana, the Republicans have
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a fifty one to forty nine majority. Now Chuck Schumer
is looking at those identical poll numbers and he realizes
the same thing. If he wants to stop it, there's
only one place he has a prayer to do that,
and that is Texas. And the last time I ran
in twenty eighteen, I won by less than three points.
I won by two point six percent. So Schumer's saying, look,
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all I need is three points in Texas, and if
he flips Texas, he holds onto the majority. And let
me tell you, guys, what happens there, because it is
truly terrifying. If Schumer gets the majority with a Democrat
House and a Democrat white House. Hollin all Read has
pledged to be the fiftieth vote to end the filibuster.
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The filibuster is the requirement of sixty votes to take
up major legislation. If that happens, let me tell you
what January of next year looks like. The first thing
Schumer does is then the filibuster. He then does four
things in rapid succession. He strikes down every voter integrity
law in the country, strikes down every photo ID law
in the country, and he legalizes ballot harvesting everywhere in
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the country. Number one. Number two he adds two new states,
d C and Puerto Rico. He would do that because
he believes that gives them four new Democrat senators. Number three,
he would give immediate voting rights to every illegal alien
in America. They're twenty to thirty million illegal aliens in America.
If he does that, Texas immediately turns blue and every
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statewide elected official in Texas is defeated. Texas becomes California.
And number four, he would pack the Supreme Court, grow
it from nine justices to thirteen, and put four left
wing justices. Now, guys, both of you have known you
a long time. I am, by nature an optimist. I
have no answer to that scenario. I view that scenario
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as a system ending event in history. Great nations rise
and fall. That would be, I believe, the end of
the United States of America as we know it. And
what is terrifying is we are literally one vote away.
Those are the stakes of my race. And that's why
I would ask folks to go to Ted Cruz dot
org right now and ensure that we don't lose and
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we don't go off the edge of that cliff.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
We have so many of you listening in Texas right now.
You gotta go out and vote. Do not sleep on this.
Think of all the money they're putting into this. Think
of what Ted has just put out there as the
future if they pull off this upset through really trickery
and treachery. But that's what the Democrats excel at Ted
Cruz dot org and all of our Texans and we
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got a lot of you. Get out there and vote Ted.
Thank you so much, Senator Cruise. Always appreciate you being
with us.
Speaker 7 (52:27):
Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
God bless God bless Ted Cruz dot org important a
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Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
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We're talking about the Harris Faulkner town hall and the
way that many women are reacting to their daughters being
forced to compete against men, to men being allowed to
enter their locker rooms. Harris Faulkner asks, in that town
hall filled with only women, I'd encourage you guys to
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go look at watch it and maybe share it with
women voters out there who are open to voting for
Trump and maybe considering not doing it. But Harris Faulkner asked,
how many women in the audience are concerned that their
daughters may have to compete against men? Every hand goes
up this issue. Initially men were like me, we're driving
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it because we saw it as crazy. And men tend
to in general be bigger sports fans than women, and
I think men understand the concept of men being bigger, stronger,
and faster, particularly if you played sports than women did.
But now, thanks to many people think Riley Gain speaking out,
women are finding their own voice on this issue. And
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I think a lot of women were afraid that they
weren't being kind enough, or they weren't being caring or
empathetic enough for the trans community. And that moment is
passed and women are taking a substantial lead and talking
about this issue. And I think Riley Gains, Jennifer Say,
who is out there, former women's gymnast who has her
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own clothing company. I think a lot of women's athletes
are saying enough is enough. We're not going to stand
for that. And it's going on right now in the
battleground state of Nevada where women's volleyball team said we
don't want to play against San Jose State University that
has a man that is dominating women's college volleyball on
the team, and a lot of women are saying, we're
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not playing in a match if they're going to have
a man competing against us.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's just not fair.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I also just wait for there to be a real
defense of this practice. Notice that whenever it comes up,
they're these there's these steps that the left will go through.
It doesn't happen that often. Why is it such a
big deal to you? Why are you being so mean?
Why can't you just be inclusive? They won't address the
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core issue, which is not only is this unfair, biologically unfair?
I mean why even have why have age differences in sports?
Why not let sixteen year olds play ten year olds
in soccer or basketball? Yeah, exactly, you know why not?
I mean, why do we have these separations because we're
trying to create some baseline of biologically based fairness and
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they can't actually address this or what do they do?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
They attack?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a little bit like what I dealt with on
the Bill Marshow. I'm smoking them on all the arguments.
So it's like, well you're not like that, cool? Yeah,
well what does that have.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
To do with anything?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, they can't make a coherent defense of any
of this, and in a sense, Kamala, I'm going to
offer something up.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Clay. Kamala is actually the perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Candidate for this moment in Democrat politics because her incoherence
on everything, the fact that she stands for nothing except
power is a perfect encapsulation of what the Democrat Party
of today is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And the fact that she says.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Her principles haven't changed when she's changed her mind on
everything is a perfect a perfect overview of where the
Democrat Party is right now. Nothing makes sense and it's
not supposed to shut up and let them run your life.
We've got another cut that I wanted to play. We
mentioned that Kamala did a town hall, and every time
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she does one of these interviews, there is a question
that to me becomes a central negativity associated with the
interview that she did, whether there's not a thing she
would change from the view and Colbet most recently, every
time she speaks she says something that turns off a
large majority of the population. I think that's why they
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hit her to such an extent. But Buck, she was
asked about reparations. She in the past has said that
she believes reparation should happen. California studied the issue and
even Gavin Newsom said, yeah, I understand the recommendation, but no, California,
which never permitted slavery, by the way, and has a
relatively small as a percentage of the population overall black population.
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I think California is only six or eight percent black.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That sometimes surprises people large Asian, large Hispanic, large white population,
but not that large of a black population. But she
was asked and Gavin Newsom said, the cost on this
is just outrageous.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
There's no way we can do it.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Basically, thanks for the recommendation, but we're not going to
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
She said, we need to study it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Cost estimates around twelve trillion dollars for reparations. Buck, here's
Kamala on racial reparations.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yes, I'm running to be a president for all Americans.
That being said, I do have clear eyes about the
disparities that exist and the context in which they exist,
meaning history to your point. So my agenda, well, first
of all, on the point of reparations, it has to
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be studied. There's no question about that. And I've been
very clear about that position.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Okay, let's talk about this. First of all.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I love when she says I've been very clear when
she gives a non answer. This should be like if
you were like if Clay asked me, He's like, Buck,
what do you think about this? And I was like,
I played the fifth as I have been very clear
about my answer. It's like, well, you're not answering. Actually,
you're choosing to give a total non answer. In this process,
a few things that would come up, and this is
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one of reparations I might add to the national electorate.
Incredibly unpopular, eighty twenty against at least, yeah, eighty twenty
against at least for obvious reasons. A lot of people
oppose this. But if you're going to have reparations. Here
are the questions have to ask, who gets them? What
do you have to do to qualify for them?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
How much?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Questions like, if you're a quarter African American, do you
do you get like twenty five percent of what the
full reparations package would be? You know, how far back
do you go? I mean, if you're half African American,
let's say you get a different percent. These are the
questions you would have to answer. If you are a
Nigerian immigrants, do the United States have a higher than
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most groups in this country household income? But would they
know they wouldn't qualify for reparations? Okay, well who does?
Who doesn't? At what point do you start to make
these distinctions or rather how far back do you have
to go?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And the other part of the clay is it's.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Immoral because you're taking money from people today with the
force of the state based on some historical you know,
some historical story. And then also it's never enough. This
is the part of it that everybody knows, right, there
would never be enough money in this program, just like
all other redistribution of wealth programs. It's never enough to
deal with the problem. Well, I mean it's it's messy
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on so many different levels. To your point, you have
to do percentage analysis, right, because huge percentages of the
people who live in America here were not in America
when slavery occurred. So if you're an immigrant from from China,
why in the world should you be paying reparations to
black people? It makes no sense, right, So it's the
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huge percentage population wasn't here. Also, just you know, Jews
who fled the Holocaust in the Second World War, okay,
you just got here in like nineteen fifty or you know,
nineteen forty whatever, they would be paying reparations, among many
other people, to the black community for slavery that has
been outlawed for one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I also always enjoy two other points. One, I'm a
history nerd. So are we just forgetting the hundreds of
thousands of people who died in the Civil War? I
got an ancestor who died fighting in the Civil War.
He was motivated in some way over the issue of slavery.
Those people's lives don't matter. Some of us, literally who
are white, carry the blood of people who fought in
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the Civil War on both sides and that's a whole
historical mess in and of itself. But those guys who
actually gave their lives, some of them to enslavery, don't count, right.
I think you'd have a very fair point if we're
going to do this. Historical ancestry is something you're responsible for.
You know, my family are Irish immigrants, and the Irish
side that got here into the North, it's very likely
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they fought for the Union. So am I exempted?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right? Do you get credited?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Do you get credited because you had Union soldiers who
fought in your background. Here's the other thing buck that
nobody really wants to talk about. Well, shouldn't Africa pay
a substantial amount of the reparations here? Since the slaves
were initially enslaved in Africa and Africans profited immensely off
the slave trade, It's as if there is no reparations
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responsibility for.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That aspect of the slave trade.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I also think that you know, you can look at
the closest thing that we've had in this country to
something along the lines of there are also people who,
by the way, I would I would point out, would
would claim that overall, you know, the welfare state that
this country has been supporting for the last seventy years
or so.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Is a form of.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Not even just for the African American community, but across
the board, meant to repair historical injustices by for dispossessed communities.
And I mean, and you know, it's been a lot
of money. It's the point, right, there's already a lot
of money that is going to help people in this country.
We have a trillion dollar Welfares STA in this country.
Beyond that, though, you look at the Native American population
in the you know Indian population, I think it's in
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we're supposed are we supposed to call them?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The you know indigenous tribes, The name keeps changing, which
I think is just meant to see who will be who.
It's obedience training for the rest of us. I might add,
you know, you're not You're not supposed to say Eskimo
anymore because Eskimo is only one tribe and they prefer
I think more generally Inuit or Alaska listeners. We've got
a great station up up in Anchorage. They would know
more about this than I do. But oh, you know,
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if you say Eskimo, you're being rude. I mean, we
can't keep up with all this. What's the name? Tough
to know the name because no written language, you know,
not a lot of textual basis for this stuff. But
on the Native American reservations clay across the country, this
has been a program for a long time, and there
have been special incentives given to those communities, and we
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as a country, we never even really look at Native
American reservations are a horrible state of affairs when you
look at things like domestic abuse, alcoholism, violent crime per capita.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
These are not happy places. They're reservations.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And then we have people in Oklahoma listening who know
exactly about this. We've had the governor of Oklahoma, who
himself is a Native American by the way, member of
a tribe, Kevin Stitt. And this is not a program
that has been successful at all really when you look
at it. So why would we do these sort of
race based preference programs, especially after the Constitution has already
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told us that an admissions it's bad, in region, distribution
of wealth it's good.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I would also add, historically, buck and this really gets
people all flummoxed. Remember we were a colony of great,
great Britain for the vast majority of time that there
was slavery in the United States. Why should the United
States be responsible from sixteen nineteen to seventeen seventy six
or seventeen eighty three, England should have to pay all
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of the reparations to slaves in the United States because
England was the power here. We were colonies. We were
until we revolted. We didn't have democracy in this country.
So I never hear anybody say, Okay, well, England is
on the hook. We only had legal slavery in the
United States for eighty years, and to your point, seventeen
eighty three to eighteen sixty three. To your point, buck,
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we've since had the welfare state, which to a large
extent since the nineteen sixties has existed with the idea
being that we're going to provide some form of compensation
and redress to people who were discrim against. We've had
the welfare state and the Civil Rights era almost as
long now in the United States since we had slavery.
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So anyway, I just loved the history of it. Very
few people actually dive into it, which is why, on
its face, eighty percent of some aut Americans say this
is a joke. Kamala believes it should happen in twenty nineteen,
and she's saying now it should be studied still in
twenty twenty four. Again another swinging amiss. Look, this is
the time of the year when leaves start to pile
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with me on this? It's crazy? Every time I want
to sleep in, every time the leaf blowers find me.
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
Second hour of.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Play and Buck kicks off right now.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Kamala Harris out there actually campaigning, so I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Guess we've got to give her credit for that.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Or are appearing in media talking to people, not just
reading off of glass in front of a pre selected
crowd of people told to applaud and cheer at the
pre selected moments. There's some interesting stuff though, that has
come out in the last twenty four hours, and one
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I will just say, there's body camera footage of this,
so you can watch. The entire incident was just released. Now,
this is from I think September. Clay is that when
the incident happened.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I believe that's right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yes, yeah, So oftentimes the body camera footage of a
police involved lethal force incident is held for a period
of time.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
The foot come out and it is.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Of a police officer who is Asian American making a
wellness check or conducting a wellness check on a woman
who is You can see in the video she's emotionally disturbed.
The NYPD parlance, she's called it an EDP and mostly
disturbed person. He's there to check on her, get her
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help and resources. Knocks on the door. She comes at
the door very aggressively. Now she is six foot six.
She had previously been the center on the Georgetown University
women's basketball team. I think that is also an important
detail because when you're talking about somebody's ability to harm
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you with any object, but certainly a long looks kind
of like a like a butcher knife or a kitchen knife.
Someone six foot six, they have long reach, they have leverage,
They can kill you very very quickly. The officer is
yelling to put it down, put it down.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Put it down. She does.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He gets cut numerous times across the face with this blade.
You can see on the body camera he is dripping blood. Okay,
and he's shouting for this woman to drop the enough
and I understand it's clearly having a psychotic episode. He
pulls his firearm and he shoots her and she dies.
There are people since this video has come out, and
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I don't mean a few, a lot of them who
are trying to make the case online that the officer
did something wrong. This is how completely insane the anti
cop left and the social justice left and the racial
justice left, the BLM remnants out there, if you will,
the remnants of the BLM movement has become that now
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the expectation is that you might just have to get
stabbed to death if a person of color is having
a psychotic break and law enforcement shows up. This is
the new standard that the left seems to want to
engage in. There are all these people Clay who are saying, oh, well,
the all officer could have used a taser, or why
couldn't the officer have done some jiu jitsu or something,
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or what if a person is within the real standard,
they tell us and CIA is if you're coming from
the draw, which this officer was. He didn't he didn't
knock on the door with his firearm in his hands.
If you're coming out of the draw, it's basically twenty feet.
If a person is within twenty I think twenty one
is what they say, but twenty feet effectively, and they
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have an edged weapon.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Even by the time you draw and you.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Try to try to get target on the threat, you
were likely to get stabbed. This officer was stabbed numerous times.
He's dripping blood. He shoots this woman who is trying
to kill him on video, and it's clear. You can
see the whole thing, and it's a horrible, violent incident,
but you can see the whole thing, and there are
activists and left wing individuals and Democrats and Kamala voters
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who are out there saying that the cop did something wrong.
I just think this is important content xclay for where
the Democrat Party really is on this issue that they
will not I mean, people can say whatever, and I
understand there's always going to be fringe elements in any
politics that are going to get something wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
They're not going to condemn this.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Why doesn't Kamala Harris put out a statement of solidarity
with the officer in this case, saying we've seen the
body camera footage. The officer did nothing wrong. He was
defending himself. It's a tragic incident. It's no one's celebrating this.
It's a tragic incident. But the cop did nothing wrong.
The Democrat party is antique cop and everybody needs to
remember it. I got something to add here too. Georgetown
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Women's basketball put out a tweet saying Georgetown Women's Basketball
mourns the tragic loss of Sidney Wilson, class of thirteen,
Forever a Hoya hashtag Hoya saxa with a photo of
her in her uniform. Should a university send out a
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loss of life message when your your former player tried
to murder an innocent police officer. I mean, this is
embarrassing for Georgetown University. And I look, you and I
both spent a lot of time in DC. Georgetown is
a fabulous location. It's beautiful. I know people take shots
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at DC. We were just talking about this with your
dad at dinner recently. I mean, it's a fabulous area.
It's been historically a fantastic university. But the idea that
you would send this out from an athletic department account.
Is I think, frankly, an extreme embarrassment to Georgetown University. Secondly,
buck And and not connected to this story directly, but
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I was reading the New York Post. We were up
in New York over the weekend and I screenshoted this
in the In the New York Post, there is a
massive article, Uh, the number of NYPD cops assaulted on
the job has skyrocketed for one percent this year, and
it's risen steeply for five consecutive years in New York City.
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What is going on here? There's a real war on cops.
And when you say cops are racist, cops are killing
innison black people. The response there is not just that
you're discrediting police, it's that attacking and fighting with them
is acceptable because they are the bad guy. We are
creating a culture that attacks police. And also on this
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Georgetown story, Bucket, this is also I think a sign
of desperation. They're trying to find another George Floyd because
they're doing poorly with minority voters and they're trying to
inflame racial tensions, and they wanted to use this Sidney Wilson.
If this cop didn't have a body cam on, and
if you couldn't see that she had a big knife
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and she was running at him, they would you know
what they would have done. They would have said, oh,
he planted that knife. She never had a knife, She
was one hundred percent incident. Her family would have come
out and said she was not a violent person. She
never would have engaged in this way. They're trying to
cover it all up. That's what they would have done.
What body cameras have really done. And this is a
sensitive subject that a lot of people don't really want
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to talk about, but body cameras for law enforcement have
saved at this point, just based on incidents that we've
all seen, hundreds if not thousands, of cops from being maligned, fired,
and probably imprisoned, yes for things they did not do,
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because the left loves to play this game of the
cops are usually the bad guys. Now usually, actually that's
not the case. In fact, ninety nine percent of the
time when cops have to do a use lethal force,
it is entirely justified. This is a textbook case of
justified lethal force. It could there is no such thing
as forget that he's even a cop. Any human being
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would have been justified in shooting this. And again I
understand she's having a psychotic episode. She's you don't have
to die because somebody else is having a psychotic episode.
That's the bab You have the right of self defense.
He did not initiate any violence or force. She came
at him. And I know for a lot of you,
you're like buck, but this is this is so obvious,
like why are we even talking about it? Look a
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look at the Georgetown statement, But look at what a
lot of the activists are saying online. They're trying to
make this a thing. They're trying to, to Clay's point,
create a last minute mobilization of particularly the black community.
And if even with all the facts as they are,
if you didn't have clear body camera footage, it would
be cop shot black woman during wellness check. And and
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you know this was a murder, that that is what
they would be saying. The only reason that this cop,
who as I said, was dripping blood everywhere, I mean,
he got stabbed numera, he was slashing at him with
his knife. The only reason that I'm CONFIDENTI well, first
of all, you got governor young Kin in Virginia. Thank god, Okay,
you don't have some communist, lunatic governor at the top
of the law enforcement apparatus, you know. I mean, how
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if this were Minnesota. You know Minnesota loves to throw
their cops under the bus. Is the Democrat state virgin
with a Democrat governor Virginia. I think that it's not
going to get that high. But he is shown to
have acted entirely, lawfully and reasonably this cop, and thank heavens,
he had his body camera on or else, Clay, you
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and I both know his life would be over, his
family would be in hiding because of all the lunatic
BLM supporters and all the Democrat voters whould be threatening
their lives over this totally. And it would be interesting
to talk and I know you have talked to a
lot of cops. It's more likely, I think, Buck, that
somebody loses their life because they don't engage in protective
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act because they're worried.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
About their life being ruined.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
If they're wrong, then it is that somebody engaged in
wrong behavior. But the bodycam is the ultimate truth teller,
and as long as it's on, there is an opportunity
for everyone to experience what it's actually like in real
time to try to be a police officer in this country.
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And it's a really hard job. And when you this
is why I've had this conversation with my kids, I
would encourage all of you to have this conversation with
your kids. I'm speaking as a lawyer. Now, if a
police officer engages in behavior that you believe is unlawful,
the best thing to do is comply still and prepare
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to have a legal process going forward, because almost all
these situations buck when you go back and look at them.
If the initial person who stopped had just complied with
the officer requests, there would be no escalation of violence.
I'm not saying that every police officer behaves constitutionally. I'm
not saying that every police officer is perfect. None of
us are perfect at our jobs. But when you have
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people believe leaving that police officers are fundamentally racist and
allied against them, you get what's happening in New York City,
which is a skyrocket which I bet is reflected all
over the country of people attacking police officers, which creates
more violent situations and more unnecessary deaths than would occur
if you just complied with the commands of a police officer.
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And there's the compliance issue. There's also it has become
and I think a lot of it is from these
sharing of these videos on social media where they jump
right to when the officer has to wrestle somebody to
the ground or the officer has to use some degree
of force because of non compliance. It has become very
much more acceptable, I think, in some quarters and in
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some communities for people to just say no, I'm not
getting arrested today, or no, I'm not complying today with
a lawful order. And you know, if cops don't have
the ability to put their hands on you and put
you in cuffs when you have broken the law just
because you say no, then we have no law. Then
the whole then the whole thing falls apart. And this
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is where a lot of I think the stuff that
you see online is just making the whole situation much worse,
which is people act like.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
The why is the cop doing this?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Like it's just a matter of and then they put
in you know, they fill in the blank because the
person says, I'm not going to comply with the authority
vested in this officer by the state to enforce the law.
And you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, people
could show up and my door too, say sir, you're
under arrest, and I go, no, no, I'm not. Well,
well what happens then? You know, they can either grab
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me and handcuff me and take me in for processing,
or I'm above the law.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And there are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
People that you see in these exchanges who just think, no, sorry,
not getting arrested today. And that, by the way, that
happened with Eric Garner who got put in a choke hold.
He was just like, no, I'm not getting arrested today.
And I know it was only a minor things. Well,
the whole George Floyd story, Buck, if you go back,
I could look at it. If he had just complied,
he was passing a counterfeit bill, he was high on drugs.
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I still believe that he wasn't killed by the police officer.
I mean, I think there's certainly reasonable doubt as to
whether or not the police officer's action killed him. The
whole story, by and large, when you actually break it
down moment by moment, is a complete fiction. In the
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way that it was portrayed to the vast majority of
the American public. I think Officer I think Officer Chauvin
did not get a fair trial. I think there was
not justice in that situation. And I disagree with people
that freak out at me when I say this. I
simply when they say, like, well, he was asphyxiated for
nine minutes. How many people in the audience have done
jiu jitsu? How many of you know how long does
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it take if you're actually cutting off someone's airway for
them to pass out from that.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's not nine minutes. Everybody much faster than that.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, he wasn't trying to asphyxiate anybody. The guy had
a lethal dose of fentanel George Floyd lethal dose of
fentanel in his system, and his heart gave out, and
he was in effectively a panic and completely freaking out
from the very beginning of when the offseas said he
couldn't bathe in the car, he said there were a
lot of times where he said he couldn't breathe. My
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point here is just play. This is the lack of
context understanding. This is why our friend Ryan Gerdusky went
on CNN. This is en viral.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We had that clip. We should grab you. I want
to come back to you. I give credit to him.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, yeah, Ryan's Ryan's doing great work over at CNN
explaining to the libs what's really going on. Look, Christmas
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Speaker 1 (29:59):
Welcome back again, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. CNN trying
to figure out what its identity is going forward. Box
News by far the biggest cable news channel. MSNBC has
diehard lesbian viewers and.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Out there right now.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
CNN is now maybe trying to decide that they want
to actually appeal to people who want to see debate
topics truly debated. And our friend Ryan gardesk, you we've
had on the program, went on and schooled a lot
of CNN panelists. Here is that cut twenty nine.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
The post George Floyd riots resulted in excess of over
fifteen thousand black male deaths in this country. How the
surge of violent crime, It was like Ferguson the first
Effect Florida.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Fact. You can explain to me how George Floyd's death.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yea result causation. Yes, really are what happens, says.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
After the Ferguson riot and after the Floyd riot, policemen,
in fear of their jobs, many times in political coverage,
pulled back from their jobs, resulting in an increasing listen,
I got to stop there there, Hold you can look
at We got.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
To stop you there because you're literally making a connection
out of your own conjecture.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Cannot It's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Look up, Look up the Ferguson effect, look up the
Floyd effect. It is a real term. It's a real term.
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Between two things.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'm not having more flashbacks here to.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Let him speak, Let him speak, let him at least
finish his point. It's so annoying when these TV pundits
do not let somebody finish what they're saying, is clay.
His point is is obvious, which is that BLM riots
led to d policing, which led to more people dying,
particularly more young black men dying.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's all correct.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
The fact that they don't even know anything about it
is evidence of how you know, we make fun of
you watching Morning Joe. I read the New York Times,
the Washington Post, we know their arguments as well or
better than they do. They don't know our arguments at all.
They have no exposure to a key cardinal aspect of
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Speaker 2 (33:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm hearing rumors yesterday that Clay a lah Happy Gilmour
just took a little running start at the taunt To
Towers golf outing yesterday and put one four hundred yards
right right on the green.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He couldn't even hit it from the normal teas they
gave him a special tee where it was way back
we had a ring ring. We had a ringer on
our team, Buck, who was a former college golfer and
he plays golf still a lot. And when you play
golf with somebody who's actually really good, golf's a hard game.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Most people stink at it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Even if you think you're pretty good at golf, you
probably hit a lot of really bad shots. This guy was,
I mean, just smoking the ball off the tee all
day and uh and so he carried us to a
large extent. But I was not an unmitigated disaster. And
that's not bad considering the last time I played golf
(34:00):
was months ago. So and I didn't even take a
practice swing before I got out there today because I
was yesterday because I was running around trying to take
care of a bunch of stuff in the morning, so
I would give myself a solid performance.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Great.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I hadn't played since I did the live pro am
if you remember that in Nashville, like in June, so
it's been several months and I wasn't very good in
the meantime. I'm just I'm hearing big hitter the Clay Travis.
That's what I'm told, you know, to big big swing
up there. Let's go back to Ted Cruz here, Ted
Cruz against Colin Allred last night on the debate stage
(34:36):
on this issue of men playing or boys playing in girls' sports. Really,
it's the main thing is once boys hit puberty and
girls hit puberty, the physiological differences are obvious and very
real and very powerful. When it comes to sports. The
physiological differences are real even before that, they're real in
the womb. But I'm just saying the strength and speed
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differential once you know, boys and girls hit twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old, that becomes very obvious. This is how
Ted Kruz laid this out in terms of policies and
all read play five.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
He is a co sponsor, and he voted for a
law called the Equality Act. The Equality Act mandated that
boys be able to go in girls' bathrooms and their
locker rooms and their changing rooms.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
He voted for it. That is his record. Number two.
There was a bill.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
It was a very simple bill. It was narrowly defined.
It was protecting women in girls' sports. He voted no.
The only issue on that bill was whether biological boys
should compete against our daughters.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
That's not fair.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Congressman all Read was an NFL linebacker. It is not
fair for a man to compete against women. The third time,
he signed onto something called the Transgender Bill of Rights
explicitly and he co sponsored it mandated that boys compete
against girls sports. And just two weeks ago, Congressman all
Read joined one hundred radical Democrats in demanding that our
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military allowed drag shows on military bases, pay for soldiers
to have sex changes, you using taxpayer money, and pay
for children to be sterilized and have sex changes on
military basis.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You know, Za, that's tough to come back from.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
In Texas, I was gonna say, what do you say
if you're all ready just that's all lies to say
that all lies.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
People have goods.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's running scared to your point, Buck, He's raised a
ton of money, but he now has an ad up
saying that he doesn't think that men should be able
to compete in women's sports. But I think that's why
this is crystallizing to such an extent for swing voters.
Imagine if you're a Latino voter in Texas and you
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see that and you think this is crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Again.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You can debate border policy and some of that gets confusing.
You can debate tax policy, it's it's easy to get
mucked up in the details.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Whether a dude should be able.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
To compete as a women's athlete and win a women's
championship is so crystallizing that I think it's cutting through
the noise as we come and come down the home
stretch here. And I hope Kamala Harris gets asked about
this because you thought you've heard word salads from her
so far, Buck, Can you imagine her trying to respond
on this issue.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, but I hope we get a chance to see it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
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We are scheduled to be joined by Senator Ted Cruz soon.
(38:23):
He had a debate last night with Colin Allred in
their Texas Senate race that is one of I would
say probably two, although Nebraska we may need to get
deb Fisher on at some point. The Republicans are looking
really good to take control of the Senate, Tim Sheehey
and Montana is running a great campaign, looks likely to
beat Tester of West Virginia is going to flip. Has
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been expected for a while. Bernie Marino is I think
gonna win in Ohio tomorrow. We're gonna be joined by
Eric Hubdy, who is looking really good in Wisconsin. We
need to get Mike Rodgers from Michigan on a lot
of these battlegrounds eight all over the Midwest, and we're
going to be joined soon by by your friend Dave
McCormick in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Ted Cruise is with us. Now.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
We'll get to the larger picture in a moment. But
what are you seeing on the on the ground, Senator?
Appreciate you making the time to join us. Great job
in the debate last night. We talked about it some
earlier on the show. What are you seeing on the
ground for both yourself and Trump and what are voters
most focused on in your experience?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Well, Claig, great to be with you guys, look at
it is a real battle in Texas. My biggest challenge
in the race is frankly complacency that people say, listen,
it's Texas, You're a Republican, this is easy. I think
that's objectively false. Chuck Schumer has been explicit I am
his number one target in the country, and Schumer and
George Sorows are flooding one hundred and fifty million dollars
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into the state. I'm getting pummeled on TV. I've been
massively outspent, and there now been more than a dozen
polls that show this race is a one point race,
or a two point race, or a three point race.
They are all in and it is a battle. Right
I'm right in the middle of a fifty three stop
bus tour all over the state of Texas. I'm in
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witchdaff Falls, Texas right now, headed up to Amarilla. Right
after that. We're criss crossing the state. But it is
a battle, and it's a one or two or three
point state where we are being massively outspent right now.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
You know, Senator Cruz, We've got a lot of people
listening right now who live in the great state of
Texas and I think to some of them it might
even be a surprise that you're in anything even resembling
a close race.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I think, on the one.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Hand, you know, you've just been a fixture as a
Conservative senator for a while now, and people just expect,
kind of expect you to be there. But we're here
to tell them all. If you don't want your favorite
TV show going off the air, so to speak, you
got to make sure you actually watch. You got to
show up. How can people help at this point? What
are some of the groups that you'd like to see
getting more activated and involved, and what has to happen
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to make sure that we pull this across the finish
line and you get six more years.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
Well, there are two things that matter enormously. Number One,
if you're in Texas, come out and vote early. Voting
starts next week on Monday, So come out and vote early,
and get your friends to vote early. Pick up the
phone and call your friends, email your friends, text your sister,
your son, your next door neighbor, your co worker, get
them to vote. Turnout matters enormously. And then secondly, I
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would ask every one of your listeners whether you're in
Texas or whether you're in any other state. Go to
our website. It's Ted Cruz dot org. Ted Cruz dot org,
Ted Cruz dot org. Go to the website and make
a contribution. Give ten dollars or twenty five or fifty dollars,
or maybe you can even give one hundred or five
hundred or one thousand. But whatever you can give, please
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go right now to Ted Cruz dot org because we
are getting swamped. Schumeran soro us. Look, at some level,
it's not complicated. If you are a hard partisan Democrat
after Donald Trump, there is nobody in the country you
want to beat more than me, And so every radical
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left wing Democrat gives money to my opponent. When my
opponent spoke at the Democrat convention in Chicago, the entire
stadium spontaneously began chanting beat Ted Cruz. I was the
only person that got that particular treatment. Guys, I'll tell you,
I'm actually pretty proud of that. You had twenty thousand
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hardcore radicals who I think are trying to destroy America
and they see me as one of the principal impediments
standing in their way. Now, I'll tell you what happened
to my opponent, Colin Allred, who is a very very
left wing Democrat. He raised over a million dollars in
the next twenty four hours, and so that money he
is trying to lie to the voters of Texas. He's
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trying to claim run away from his record. The debate
last night was all about him running away from his record.
But the only way we can counteract that is with
the resources to communicate my record in his, and to
do that takes your listeners going to Ted Cruz dot
org right now and giving generously at Ted Cruse dot org.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
We played some of the clips from your debate last night, Senator,
and it seems particularly the case that sometimes, as you
well know, races can come down to one issue that
just really connects with voters. It feels like Colin alread
your opponent his refusal to condemn men pretending to be
women and playing women's sports, particularly because he's actually an athlete.
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He played football, he played in the NFL, played college football.
He knows better than anybody else. This is not some
guy sitting in a university faculty lounge arguing about transgender issues.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
He knows how much bs this is. Are you seeing
that cut through?
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Because that the town Hall that Trump just did with
Harris Faulkner today, every woman raised her hand when she
asked whether they were concerned about their daughters or granddaughters
competing against men in men and women's sports.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Are you seeing that resonate with your voters?
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Absolutely, it is resonating powerfully. And and and look like
you've talked about this issue for a long time. You
obviously come from the world of sports, and so you've
been really vocal in taking on this lunacy and doing
so early on. But but it is an issue that
that it really shows how radical and extreme Colin already
is that that he has four different times supported and
(44:25):
voted for boys competing against girls sports. He's voted for
boys going to girls' bathrooms, going to the girls locker rooms,
going to girls changing rooms. And for the radical democrat,
your daughter, your granddaughter, she has no rights, she has
no right not to be at her changing room next
to a fully naked grown man, and and and that's
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that's just fundamentally wrong. And and and this issue is
about fairness. You know, it didn't used to be controversial
to observe that boys and girls are different, that men
and women are different. And we all saw the ridiculousness
of two biological men at the Olympics dominating women's boxing.
You know that is and Clay You put your your
(45:12):
finger on exactly where this is resonating. It's funny the
media thinks that that the people who care about this
are are the crazies, and it is it is moderate
undecided women that that recognize this is really unfair and
it speaks volumes that at the debate, Colin Allred tried
to keep saying that's that's not I don't support boys
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competing against girls, and he's just flat outlying because he
can say that in the debate, but every time he's
voted on it, he's voted the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Speaking of Senator Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz dot org for
those of you in Texas or will I guess anywhere
right what a pitch in and help out Ted Cruz
dot org. Right now they're spending one hundred and fifty
million dollars against you.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Senator Cruz.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
The how concerned should peop both be right now about
the California of Texas. It's something that I know Democrats
for a long time have been hoping to achieve. What
are the long term trends and what do you think
can be done about it?
Speaker 7 (46:14):
So it's a very real issue, and I will say
there are countervailing factors. So there's some people who leave
California who lead blue states, and they're fed up. They're
fed up with the high taxes, they're fed up with
the high regulations, the shutdowns, the woke policies, and they
look around the country and they say, where do I
want to be and they pick Texas. And the data
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show actually those folks are more conservative than the median voter.
They show up here, they buy a pickup truck, a
hat and boots and a shotgun. And I call them
refugees for freedom. I want every one of them to
come to Texas and to be here and to fight
for our freedoms. There's another group, which is a company
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moves to Texas and they for all their employees, and
the employees didn't necessarily decide I want to be in Texas.
They just stick with their jobs. Those guys tend to
vote exactly like they did where they came from. And
in many ways, Texas is a victim of our own
success because we're the best place in the country to
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run a business. And so we have so many businesses
moving to Texas that they are bringing in hundreds of
thousands of employees from California and other Blue states, and
so that influx, they're cross cutting instincts. But the second group,
it's dangerous because they're voting just like they did in La. Ted.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
First of all, everybody go to Ted Cruz dot org,
go donate to him. I want to build on this
because I do think this is part of a larger
picture here. If you're looking at the national Senate race,
Republicans are looking really good in Montana, West Virginia's flipping,
you're starting to see panic. I think on the Democrat side,
they are now just trying to what your state because
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they're terrified of some of the trend lines they're seeing elsewhere.
And if they could knock you off, they feel like
maybe they've got some chance to try to retain their majority.
So this is a nationalized play. Really, it's not about Texas.
It's about a desperate ploy to try to retain the
Senate in a larger national context on the map. Is
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that what you think a lot of this money is
motivated by.
Speaker 7 (48:25):
I think that's absolutely right. And look, let's break it
down in different options that can happen anyone in business
or life. You think about best case scenario, worst case scenario.
You try to give probabilities. All of us hope we
have a fantastic election in November. We hope that Donald
Trump is reelected as president, that we win a Republican senative,
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Republican House. That would be very, very good. A lot
of good would come of it. We will secure the border,
we will cut taxes, we will end the war on energy,
we will bring down inflation, we will end the wars abroad.
Israel will defeat Hamas. There's a lot of good that
will come of that. But on the other hand, it
might be a bad election. The numbers are close enough.
It could be if God forbid Kamala Harris wins. I
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think it is likely that the Democrats also will win
the House. In my judgment, the White House and the
House of Representatives are positively correlated. They're going to go together.
If the Democrats win both the White House and the House,
then the Senate becomes orders of magnitude more important. It
is the only check and balance to stop the country
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from plunging over the cliff. And you laid out the
math exactly right. Today, the Democrats have a fifty one
to forty nine majority in the Senate. We're going to
win West Virginia. The Democrats have essentially conceded it, so
that takes it to fifty to fifty. And right now
we are leading in Montana by four to six points.
If we win West Virginia and Montana, the Republicans have
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a fifty one to forty nine majority. Now Chuck Schumer
is looking at those identical poll numbers and he realizes
the same thing. If he wants to stop it, there's
only one place he has a prayer to do that,
and that is Texas. And the last time I ran
in twenty eighteen, I won by less than three points.
I won by two point six percent. So Schumer's saying, look,
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all I need is three points in Texas, and if
he flips Texas, he holds onto the majority. And let
me tell you, guys, what happens there, because it is
truly terrifying. If Schumer gets the majority with a Democrat
House and a Democrat white House. Hollin all Read has
pledged to be the fiftieth vote to end the filibuster.
(50:32):
The filibuster is the requirement of sixty votes to take
up major legislation. If that happens, let me tell you
what January of next year looks like. The first thing
Schumer does is then the filibuster. He then does four
things in rapid succession. He strikes down every voter integrity
law in the country, strikes down every photo ID law
in the country, and he legalizes ballot harvesting everywhere in
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the country. Number one. Number two he adds two new states,
d C and Puerto Rico. He would do that because
he believes that gives them four new Democrat senators. Number three,
he would give immediate voting rights to every illegal alien
in America. They're twenty to thirty million illegal aliens in America.
If he does that, Texas immediately turns blue and every
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statewide elected official in Texas is defeated. Texas becomes California.
And number four, he would pack the Supreme Court, grow
it from nine justices to thirteen, and put four left
wing justices. Now, guys, both of you have known you
a long time. I am, by nature an optimist. I
have no answer to that scenario. I view that scenario
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as a system ending event in history. Great nations rise
and fall. That would be, I believe, the end of
the United States of America as we know it. And
what is terrifying is we are literally one vote away.
Those are the stakes of my race. And that's why
I would ask folks to go to Ted Cruz dot
org right now and ensure that we don't lose and
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we don't go off the edge of that cliff.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
We have so many of you listening in Texas right now.
You gotta go out and vote. Do not sleep on this.
Think of all the money they're putting into this. Think
of what Ted has just put out there as the
future if they pull off this upset through really trickery
and treachery. But that's what the Democrats excel at Ted
Cruz dot org and all of our Texans and we
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got a lot of you. Get out there and vote Ted.
Thank you so much, Senator Cruise. Always appreciate you being
with us.
Speaker 7 (52:27):
Thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
God bless God bless Ted Cruz dot org important a
website also buck yesterday I called in about this time
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The Bobby Bones Show
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