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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in we have it feels like we got a
lot of awful stories sometimes that stack up, and today
is one of them. For many of you on the
West Coast. I'm Clay Travis, He's Buck Sexton. We are
here with you for the next three hours trying to
bring sense to an otherwise insane world. We appreciate all
of you spending your time with us. As we sit
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here counting down the days until Donald Trump is inaugurated
and takes back control of the United States government. There
continues to be activity on Capitol Hill, a Republican speaker
and a Republican Senate. We will break down the latest there.
There's interesting moving parts. But as I'm sure many of
you have been paying attention to since yesterday evening when
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wildfire started and then the wins kicked up, there is
just an awful situation in LA. Lots of homes being
burned down, many people being put in incredible peril, and
we certainly are following that. We know many of you
probably are listening on your radios in the Los Angeles
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area to us right now, aware of everything that is
awful that is taking place in so many different communities
out there. But we've talked about this before, Buck, But I
went away to college in Washington, d C. I've lived
in Nashville for the vast majority of my life. But
the city that I've probably spent the most time in,
certainly over the last fifteen years or so, other than
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my home, is Los Angeles. I have a ton of
friends out there. I've spent a great deal of time
working at Fox Sports, variety of different television programs, many
amazing friends and family that live in that area now,
and so I know these area as well. I know
you've spent a decent amount of time in Los Angeles also.
But for those of you out there that might not
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be paying as much attention or have not had the
news on this morning, let me give you a little
bit of an update here from the press conferences that
have recently occurred. This is La County Fire Chief Marony
Anthony Moroney explaining there's over five thousand acres burned, no
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containment that has happened so far, still two thousand acres burning.
Listen to this as what it sounds like. This is
the latest in Los Angeles, La County.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
The Palisades Fire is located in both La City and
La County. We have well over five thousand acres that
have burned and the fire is growing. We have no
percentage of containment. We have an estimated one thousand structures
destroyed and also no reported fatalities and a high number
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of significant injuries to residents who did not evacuate, in
addition to first responders who are on the fire line.
For the Eton fire, it is located in both the
Angelus National Forest, the Alta Dina area of La County,
and Pasadena. We have over two thousand acres burning at
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this time and the fire continues to grow with zero
percent containment, and unfortunately, we have two reported fatalities to civilians.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So that is the absolute latest. That was just in
a press conference. Here is the CBS News National correspondent
Jonathan Vigliati explaining what exactly he is seeing in terms
of how rapidly this fire has been spreading because the
winds are so strong and so significant, carrying the flames
so many different directions. Listen to cuttoo.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
We're here at the heart of the Pacific Polisades in
a neighborhood that is a total loss.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You've got a home here. I'm going to flip over here, another.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Home loss coming, go over this way, homes out my street.
Con this one completely leveled. The firefighters here, they're not
trying to save these structures.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They're trying to prevent these clams.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
From jumping to other neighborhoods to see all these efforts.
In some cases, they're being carried more than a mile
in advance of these source flames lighting other homes on fire.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So Buck, we'll get into some of the responses that
have not been occurring at a level that Los Angeles
residents deserve here in a little bit. But for right now,
it's a true calamity that is befalling the nation's second
biggest city, and it is getting worse. It would appear
right now before it's going to get better, given the
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winds are still whipping around my understanding this morning in
Los Angeles in a fairly significant way.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
It's horrific, Clay, and people are able to see so
many different perspectives of this because of the instant connectivity
that we all have. The videos from inside of living
rooms as there are flames, you know, lapping at the
at the fence nearby, or at the pool nearby, from
people's homes.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's very visceral.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
All all feels too real for people who are just
observing this because of the ability that we have to
get those those real time images. The actor James Woods,
I don't know if you saw this. He had just
I believe, just finished construction on a home in the area,
and he had video that he shared of the flames
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right right off his deck. I mean, this is what
people are dealing with, and he's not sure what the status,
you know, Thoughts and prayers to James and his wife
and family. I think James and his wife are fine,
based on what I've seen on acts. They got out.
But people have lost homes, They've lost everything in the homes,
thousands of them, and it's it's a tragic. It's a
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tragic situation that's playing out. And I understand that, you know,
we don't want to politicize things. You don't want to
move into the Okay, a bad thing happens. Now, let
me find some way to assert how this fits into
my own political framework.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I think you also have to look at.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
This responsibly and say, is los Angeles prepared for this
kind of a situation under a natural disaster. Is there
forestry management in the state of California still a huge problem.
There are clips of Trump talking about this from years
ago where he's like, they're doing a terrible job. They
won't clear the underbrush because of the environmentalists, and then
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it just burns too hot and too fast and it's
too dangerous. I mean there's and I even gotten to
the mayor of last I think we should play the
mayor of Los Angeles is gone. For those of you
out there who do not know, there was a highly
contested mayoral race in Los Angeles between two Democrats. So
this is a Democrat battle, Rick Caruso, who is a
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very successful billionaire developer, and Karen Bass. Karen Bass won.
She's in Ghana. We'll talk about that in a sect. Yes,
Africa right now watching the Ghana East president be inaugurated supposedly,
so she's not even a present.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But here is Rick Caruso saying.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
This is on Fox eleven News, that there's no water
coming out of the fire hydrants. They have not done
the appropriate prep to be able to handle something like this.
Listen to cut five.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
What is most concerning to me is our first responders,
in our firefighters who are trying to battle this. There's
no water in the Palace state. There's no water coming
out of the fire hydrant. This is an absolute mismanagement
by the city, not the firefighter's fault, but it's further city.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And I'm going to be very honest.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
We've got a mayor that's out of the country, and
we've got a city that's burning, and there's no resources
to put out fires. So if you look at your pictures,
you don't see the firefighters there because there's nothing they
can do. It looks like we're in a third world
country here.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's Rick Caruso buck again highly contested mayoral battle, the
current mayor of Los Angeles not there, supposedly flying back
from Africa.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But what he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Rick Caruso, for those of you who don't know, ran
basically as a Rudy Giuliani Michael Bloomberg esque character, right
while he was more Republican, a little bit to the right,
but still many in many ways having to appeal to
a Democrat base. But this is and I know, and
by the way, if you are dealing with these fires,
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right now, and you are listening to us, and you
want to tell us what you are seeing. Eight hundred
and two eight two two eight a two. We have
a huge LA Area audience. I would like to hear
from people there. And to Rick Caruso's point, Buck, there
are tons of people out there.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We've got a clip of the actor.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Steve Gutenberg, who I saw out on the street trying
to help people, trying to get people safe. Let's play
that cut too. They're a ton of amazing people out there.
But the infrastructure, as Rick Caruso just said, is not
allowing the good people to do the most good. In
other words, much of the government is getting in the
way of the better instincts of so many people. Here's
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Steve Gutenberg one more clip from on the ground talking
about the challenges in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He know Palisades Drive.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
If anybody has a car and they leave their car,
leave the keys in the car so that we can
move your car, so that these fire trucks can get
up Palisades Drive. What's happening is people take their keys
with them as if they're in a parking lot. This
is not a parking lot. We really need people to
move their cars. So if you leave your car in
Palisades Drive, leave the key in there so a guy
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like me can move your cars and get them up there,
so that so that these fire trucks can get up there.
It's really really important.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Thank you, Thank you for talking to us. Live sir.
What's her name? My name is Steve Guttenberg. Steve live
in the area.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
I live right up the hill and thank goodness, but
I have friends up there right now and they can't
evacuate because it's stuck on Kalistates Drive.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So that is the actor many people will know buck
Steve Gutenberg, which he's not even you know, he's just
trying to help his community. But it is that clip
woind viral. You can see him standing amidst the fire,
trying to help people out and evacuate people who need help.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And I think that this is it's worth noting that
this is not the first of these kinds of fires
in even recent years. I mean, you can go back
and what was that I'm looking here, Clay at in
twenty twenty there were really rough yeah, you know, wildfires
out by this way. I mean, this is you know,
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this is a fire season that this may be the
worst of any individual fire, but rough fire seasons have
been happening for years, and there is an issue of
forestry management and resources because they're putting right, if the
state of California is spending as they are, millions and millions,
I think they've even put you know, in the billions
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toward this over time. Yeah, since twenty eleven, this has
from twenty twenty, they've spent six hundred million dollars on
fire prevention efforts. Now, so you could assume now it's
gone up considerably. It's probably over a billion dollars on
fire prevention. And you say, well, what have they been
able to accomplish with this? When the mayor is gone
and when there's no water in the no water for
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the fire hoses from the hydrants, and the evac efforts
are hamstrung by a lack of necessary personnel. What are
people supposed to say? I've also seen, and this is troubling,
just to add on to all of this, that people
lost their fire coverage.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Have you seen this play?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
There's these comments online at least people have lost fire
coverage for their houses in just the months before this.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
People there are going to be people who have Now,
you know, this is where does the federal government declare
there's some kind of a national emergency situation. I mean,
what ends up or if you a federal emergency situation,
what ends up happening here remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it's a disaster.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's a mess, and if you know, first and foremost
thoughts in perse everybody affected by it, and we hope
everybody gets out safe, And then I think there does
need to be a conversation about accountability for the state authorities,
not the firefighters who are out there risking their lives
and taking in smoke and everything. By all accounts, they've
been doing incredible work. And the fire teams they have
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are are phenomenal that are trying to fight these things
and trying to you know, prevent this from getting even
worse than it is. But at the top management level
of dealing with really it's a forestry issue, right, I mean,
that's what it comes down to, I think more than
anything else, the dry kindling, the tinder, and the underbrush.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Are they spending enough time on this?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Are they bowing to the environmentalist concerns that just demand
you don't touch stuff those are valid questions when people
are turning around and looking at how could something like
this happen and get so out of control?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
No doubt, and we're going to continue to take your calls.
We'll play some of these cuts again. To Buck's point,
this was a very foreseeable tragedy, and are the people
of Los Angeles being served by the best possible representatives
that could be dealing with this tragedy right now? I
think the answer is no. And certainly the mayor didn't
know this was going to happen. But why in the
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world is the mayor of Los Angeles that an African
inauguration ceremony?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I mean I would just also say, Clay, we know
that California is on a on a major fault line.
You know, I if California had a I didn't they
just had an earthquake pretty recently, right, But if California
had a relatively modern earthquake and entire buildings were collapsing
because the code didn't actually have them prepared for it,
that would be a lack of preparation, right. I mean,
just because something's a natural disaster, it doesn't mean that
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you can't say, well, hold on a second, did you
you know in Florida we're prepared for hurricanes all the time.
Doesn't mean that it's going to be perfect. Obviously, you
do the best you can with the response, but you
gotta be ready.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
When Rick Caruso is saying that all of our fire
hydrants don't have actual, you know, water in them, I
mean it seems like that the fire hydrants, yeah, should
have water in them.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
That seems reasonable. I want to know why that, Why
they don't have that, why they haven't collected the water
for that. All right, we'll take some of your calls
on this. We've got a lot of you listening California,
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We've got Adam Carolla joining us from California.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You all know Adam.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Adam appreciate you making the time for us. Under the circumstances.
We know a lot going on. It's a very tough situation.
Tell us what you know, what you're seeing, and what
everyone needs to be aware of.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
So yesterday I went to the Equinox Gym on Sunset
Boulevard and pch and I walked out of the place
at about ten forty five in the morning, and I
looked up Sunset Boulevard and I I think there's a
fire up there. And that's exactly where it started. When
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it started. Then I went into Glendale, California to do
my podcast, and subsequently came back to Malibu where I
lived at about six in the evening, sat down, and
as soon as my aunt at the sofa, we were
alerted that it was time to evacuate. So packed up
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what I needed to get by and then drove out
to Burbank, California and checked into a hotel where I'm
at right now. So obviously I've been following it through
the news and talking to neighbors and that sort of thing,
but I've not been back since I left last night.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
How's your home? Do you know personally how your home
has been.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I woke up this morning to a neighbor telling me
it was all gone, and then then the neighbor revised
the report later on to maybe it's still there.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So that's a big that's a big range of reporting
from the neighbor.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'll point out.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, you know, sometimes the ladies jumped the gun a
little bit with the information. So I was pretty devastated
this morning, and now I'm in some sort of hopeful phase.
But there's really not a great way to get information
because you can't go down there and look for yourself.
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So you you watch the news and you see little
bits and pieces where you go, oh, that's the restaurant
up the street, you know, and you try to piece
together cobble together some information, but it's it's pretty much
just sitting on pins and needles, waiting to get back
there to see if it's gone or not.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Now, Adam, you've probably seen the President already wait in
uh has has some harsh words for for Governor Newscomb
as he calls him. Uh So, President Trump is going
right off for it here and specifically saying that there's
been inadequate expansion to the water system and effectively inadequate
preparation for an event like this by the state of California,
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perhaps by Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In addition to that, what is the truth of that?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I mean, for people who don't live there, I think
it's hard to know what's proposed, what's been considered, and
what could have been done. I mean, do you have
a read on is there just growth? Is there grotesque
in competence at play here in terms of the preparation
for an event like this?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, I did twenty minutes on my podcast on Today's show,
which was on the subject of Most of these fires
are started by downed power lines. So we have a
decrepit power grid, and our power lines are not buried.
They're up on power poles, and the power poles are
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eighty years old, and the winds hit, they knock the
poles down and the hot wires start the fire, and
or when it gets windy, they just shut off all
the power, so you have no power in the middle
of trying to evacuate because we have a decrepit system.
Keep in mind, Newsome is now putting more money into
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the high speed rail, which isn't high speed rail from
Bakersfield to Merced, about one hundred and fifty miles way
out of California, in the middle of nowhere. Nobody lives
in Bakersfield or mersaid they're already eighty billion dollars over
budget on it, and I did twenty minutes on why
don't we take that eighty billion dollars or the two
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hundred billion dollars that's going to cost a build rail
from Merced to Bakersfield, which impacts nobody, and use that
money to upgrade our grid and bury those lines up
and down pch where the fire is happening, and all
the multimillion dollar houses, there's fire poles fall all over
the place. One of their big problems is power lines.
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Everywhere the firepole catches on fire, the power lines come down,
the trucks can't pull in, and you can't evacuate if
there's hot wires or even cold power lines on the
ground that you don't know are live or not. It's
a big issue and it's insane that we have the
same technologies they had in eighteen seventy five with the
power poles.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You've lived in California, not since eighteen seventy five, but
a lot of people have moved in during your lifetime there, Adam,
how would you assess we were just talking on the show.
You know, if the hurricane God Forbid hits Florida, which
happens pretty much every year of different varieties. Right now,
Floridians feel very confident that their governor and their local
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government is going to do the best job possible responding
to that hurricane. What do you think your average Californian
thinks about the city and state leadership in cal in
terms of responding to something like this, What value add
if any is California getting from its political leadership, or
is it actually detracting from the innate goodness of many
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of the people in the LA area.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, you know, as you know, we're all sort of
good vibes and we want the first you know, African
American woman fire chief and mayor, and we get all
into that. But when the as goes down, then we
want to know what's going on. You know, I was
looking at it today and I realized we have an
incompetent mayor, Karen bats who is in India or something
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or Africa doing something collecting beads. I don't know what
she was doing over there, but she's incompetence. We don't
have a system of reservoirs and water collection and fire
hydrants and stuff. It's all a mess. Obviously. The think
about this. The places that just burn to the ground,
the multi million dollar houses and I'm not saying two
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million dollar houses, I'm I'm saying twenty eight million dollar houses. Wow.
The houses that burned to the ground in the community
were Malibu Palisades and Santa Monica, all overwhelmingly blue, all
New Some voters, all Karen Bass voters. They voted for
all of this, and now their houses are gone.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean that is kind of reaping what you
sew on some level, right, Adam. And so many people
have left California. I was talking about the number of
UCLA and USC flags I see in my Tennessee neighborhood.
Now a lot of them moved to to Florida, where
Buck lives. Now, as a lifelong Californian, have you thought, hey,
is it time to uproot and go somewhere else through COVID?
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I know you travel all over the country doing your shows,
but has this maybe and many of the other things
that have just kind of strung together calamity after calamity
for Californians, does it make you want to uproot?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I bought land in Henderson. They're fat and I'm
literally leaving after my podcast to head up to Vegas
and do some shows, but to go look at my
land and meet with the architect and the builder. So
oh yeah, those plans have been on the table for
a long time because all you do is pay taxes.
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And it's it's three parts. It's you pay taxes, you
pay an aornent amount of taxes, you get nothing in return,
And they wag their finger at you and want to
know why you're not doing more or paying your fair share.
You get villainized. So it's not only the part where
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you don't get anything, and it's not only the part
where you pay for everything. Then whenever these guys run
for elections, they villainize the people that are keeping the
lights on in California.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Why do you think, Adam, there there is in a
faster recognition of what you're describing right there. Whether someone
wants to call it, you know, being being red pilled.
I don't know seeing reality reacting to events with common sense.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is it just the.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Ideological they're so ideological dug in that there's not enough
suffering from the bad policy to make people want to
try leadership. That's different. I mean Gavin Newson was supposed
to be recalled and then he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you there's gonna be a lot of converts.
And I'll tell you where then where the conversion happens
over to the logical side, over to the right side
when you try to build something. So I'll be fast here,
but I've been a builder my whole life. I had
to pull permits on everything. When you have to deal
with the city and pull permits. That's when you become conservative.
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And if you hear Bill Maher in the last five
years sounding a little more like us, he brings up
trying to get a solar shack built. Right. He wanted
to get solar power in his house. He had to
pull permits. It took him three years. They wouldn't let
him do it. And now he sounds like us because
now he's pissed because he doesn't want your bureaucracy. Bill
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Marsh spoken more about bureaucracy and red tape and burdenso
rules in the last two years than he has in
the thirty years before that. It's because he's trying to
do something. All these houses in the Palisades, all the
houses in Malibu, all the houses in Santa Monica. When
they try to rebuild, and a couple of those jentas
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from the Coastal Commission tell them no, or you're gonna
have to wait in line, or it's going to take
five years. That's when they're going to turn.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I know, we want your home to be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
We want you and everybody else out there listening in
LA to be fine. Questions that you're in the entertainment space.
I know that you have been a Trump supporter for
some time. Has the culture of Los Angeles and the
culture of Hollywood expanded, as it is to many different
locations creating content? How is How have you found it
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responding to the Trump election this time compared to in
twenty sixteen and maybe in twenty twenty. Is there a
vibe shift that you can feel?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah? Remember all of Hollywood. Hollywood are mostly cowards, mostly
hypocritical powers. Now if you don't believe me that there's
runaway production. They all film in Canada. Why they film
in Canada They get a tax break. Then they come
back to their homes in Beverly Hills and lecture everyone
about paying a little bit more in taxes so others
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could get a hand up. Right, So they're all hypocrites,
they're all cowards, and they'll go with whatever flow the
nation's go into, especially money wise. You've seen it with Disney,
You've seen it with all these corporations getting rid of DEI.
Now you've seen it with the tech roads. So they
will line up behind Trump just for commerce.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, that's a good thing, that's I think.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Also we're seeing that at them with the break in
the corporate embargo, boycott if you will, of all things
Trump from Amazon now or is it Netflix?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Who's you know?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Amazon's doing the forty million dollar deal with Milania for
the buy of the new Milania biography.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, new Millennium, Right? I mean, are we going to
see a lot more of that at them?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Do you think now they realize that they can't just
continue to stiff farm half the country?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I think so. And also I think as Trump's implemented
plans bear fruit and start to be effective, and as
the aforementioned Gavin Newsom and the Karen Basses and all
the Blue cities and the crime and the crime on
the subway and the fires in Los Angeles, you know,
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as Los Angeles and New York City start to implode,
and as Trump's policies bear fruit, I think You're going
to wake up even the heaviest sleepers.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And I would add this to Adam, thanks for coming
on with this, and we certainly are wishing you the best.
You know this, and I've seen it happen a lot.
The amount of times you're on a television show or
you're on some sort of production and guys come up
who have the cameras or guys come up who are
building the sets and they just whisper, you know, something like, hey, man,
(28:18):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You're right about everything.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's actually a huge contingent even in the entertainment space
that agrees with a lot of what we say every
single day.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Oh yeah, And it's always a sort of blue collar
side of it. So aways the guys on the dark
side of the bright lights, you know, yeah, the grits
and the cameramen, you know, the truck drivers, all those guys,
the teams. They're always the guys who quietly tell you
they agree and then pull their mask back up real
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Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's right, Adam, Best of luck. Thank you for making
the time. I know it's a crazy time right now
out in La. If you hear anything else you want
to call in an update is phel free. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Man, Well thanks for having me.
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monitor everything going on in Los Angeles associated with the wildfires,
and that is a current calamity that is ongoing. Will
again continue to keep you a pre of everything that
is going on there. Will take some of your calls
if you're in that California region and you want to
tell us what you are seeing right now as it
comes to the wildfires. But there is a lot going on,
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not only associated with what's going on in California, but
all the way across the country. As we prepare for
the inauguration of Donald Trump, there is action in Congress.
We have a new speaker, as we told you last week,
Mike Johnson officially in and John Thune the Senate majority leader,
and they passed already a bill I believe it's the
first bill that they passed, the Lake and Riley Act
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in the House with some Democrat support and unanimity on
the Republican side, which would say if you're arrested for
a crime, that you are immediately deported. Because Lake and
Riley's alleged killer was arrested in New York and was
not deported. And now there is a major discussion surrounding
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that that has moved to the Senate, where Republicans have
fifty three votes. Vetterman says that if they can't get
the Democrats seven votes to get them to sixty and
move it past any sort of filibuster related activity, that
this is the reason why we lost, meaning the Democrat
Party in the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think there's some truth to it. Cut ten.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
If you're here illegally and you're committing crimes and those things,
I don't know why anybody thinks that it's controversial that
they all need to go.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Do you think that this was one of, if not
the biggest issue for this election.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Well, I think if we can't. You know, there's forty
seven of us in the Senate, and if we can't
pull up with seven votes, and if we can't get
at least seven out of forty seven, and if we can't,
then that's the reason why we lost. That's one of them.
That's one of why we lost.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
In part, common sense to me, Buck, I mean, John
Fetterman maybe the most making the most sense of any
Democrat in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's funny.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I just wanted to note that I feel this claim
when we talk about Fetterman, and also it came up
when we were discussing Mark Zuckerberg yesterday. You know, when
someone says the right thing and you want to say, well,
that's the right thing, it doesn't mean that you forget
about all the things that they have done before. So
we can't always do the preamble because I don't know
if you got this. I saw a little heat about, oh, well,
(33:20):
Zuckerberg doing the right thing. Now he did all this
terrible damage to free speech. Yeah, and we've been talking
about that for years. But when someone says the right thing,
I'm not gonna say it's the wrong thing. And with Fetterman,
he has had a habit now of being among the
most reasonable in his public pronouncements. Democrats in the Senate, Now,
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is he still going to vote lockstep with Chuck Schumer
on everything?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's what really matters. So we haven't lost sight of that. Right.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
It's one thing to get a good SoundBite on Fox
when you're a Democrat. It's another thing to be willing
to break with your party on common sense issues. Break
with your parties. A Democrat on common sense issues, go along.
I just wanted to say that because I feel like
every time, you know, we say, look, Fetterman said a
good thing, people say, well, it doesn't mean that he's
I know, it doesn't mean But now we get into
(34:08):
the immigration piece of this clay, they didn't want to
go forward. The Democrats rather, aren't wanting to go forward
with this. I think because the illegal immigrant community in
the United States is a favored constituency. It's not even
just that they, you know, don't want to go as
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far as Donald Trump does. Obviously with mass deportations. The
Democrat Party, the base and the people that are the
most ideologically committed to the left, they think that all
of the illegals are a victim class, right, and so
this is why they're even sometimes off when it comes
(34:50):
to the politics of this. I've said this about climate
change and some other things too, where their ideology blinds
them to the political reality. And I think that's what
we saw in this election. They're so ideologically invested in
the illegal immigrant community or you know, the illegal aliens,
I say illegal aliens, they call them undocumented, that they
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can't see clearly what the political reality of it may be.
And it's because they think of them as a victim
class predominantly non white.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
They viewed as a race issue.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
They viewed it as a you know, anti colonial and
a sort of global, one world government issue. There's all
kinds of stuff that comes together. But the Democrats would
stand in the way the possibility, I should say, if
Democrats trying to stand in the way here of telling
people of deporting people who are already deportable under law.
And that's a part of this that's so important. It's
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not like you're not deportable just because you haven't committed
a crime, but now you're committing additional crimes.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Be detained at that point and be subject to being
sent back to the country that is your actual country
of origin and nationality.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
One hundred and fifty nine, I believe is the number
of Democrats voted against this bill. To think about how
crazy that is, and Fetterman is saying, we need to
get seven out of forty seven, whatever your politics are.
If someone to bucks Point is illegally here, and then
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they aid further in that act of illegality by committing
a crime in a country that they are legally in,
they are arrested for that crime. So not only have
they committed a crime, they've been arrested. And we all
know the number of times that you commit a crime
and get arrested is actually lower than the number of
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crimes that you're committing. Right, most people don't get arrested
the first time they stand athwart the law, particularly in
a blue city or a blue state where they have
delegitimized the arrest of criminals. In general, how in the
world could you defend this, like just leave aside Democrat, Republican, independent,
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and if people just think rationally, how could you defend
your community having people who are illegally there and then
on top of the illegality of their being there, they
then commit an act of illegality. On top of that,
it is absolute bonker banana land that you could have
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a political party that doesn't advocate for those people being
sent out of the country. And then we know, once
you're committing crimes, it's not a long stretch to say
that you're likely to commit another crime. And this is
what happened. If you're not familiar or have forgotten, this
is called the Lake and Riley Act because not only
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was she killed and attacked by an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Raped and murdered. Yes, she should have.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Never had to deal with this, because this guy was
arrested in New York and should have been sent right
out of the country right then and there instead of.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Allowed to go to Georgia and commit another crime.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
And New York, under policy made by the mayor and
the City Council, has the makes the affirmative decision that
they will not even they will not work with ice.
They will not they will not listen to any detainer
requests from Immigration and Customs enforcement. So they actively make
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it harder for federal law enforcement to do their job.
This is what sanctuary jurisdictions are. And think about that,
I mean, think about how many cities there are in
the country where there is a policy in place that
law enforcement authorities make it harder for federal law enforcement
to do their job. And I know they say, oh,
we don't have to do that, so that's a yeah,
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But in so many other areas clay of the law.
I mean, I've said this before. If it's a drug case,
a terrorism case, when the Feds asked the you know,
the state or local law enforcement for help, they work
together all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's only on this.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Issue where you have this this effort at almost near
nullification by the local law enforcement to wor you know,
the the certainly the ignoring, if qualification is too strong word,
ignoring the federal law because they think it's politically expedient
to do so, or at least they're the people that
are writing the checks think it's politically expedient to do so.
I don't think this is going to play well for
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Democrats though going forward. I think that they've got a
real problem here because the numbers under Biden got so extreme.
They had to admit that this was a disaster and.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Crime is an issue, and when you're allowing criminals that
shouldn't be here to stay here, I don't understand how anyone,
regardless of their politics, can defend this policy.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Well, Clay, also, remember it's when they're talking about something
like stealing. It shouldn't be that hard to be in
this country and not and not steal, right, that should
be pretty that should be pretty straightforward. But also on
the politics of this, remember we don't think about, you know,
Kamala right now. Where Shi Kamala's going to? I think Germany,
Bach Rain and where else?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I forget there's a third one. It's I didn't even
know this, I like Brunei or something. I mean, she's
going to like some guard of Singapore, Singapore, I think
that's where she is. Is it last boondoggle? You know,
it's a last taxpayer funded vacation. And we don't think
about Kamala very much these days for you know, many reasons.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thankfully, Yeah, thankfully.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
But remember when she was talking about building the wall.
I mean that's the Democrats were in this tough spot
because their internal numbers were showing and obviously the election
played this out or the election proved this.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Their internal numbers were showing they were.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
In a terrible position on immigration, and so they started
to have Kamala just test out, you know, yeah, I'm
gonna also build a wall.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Do you remember.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
I mean, it's it almost feels like it was it
was surreal, like it couldn't have actually happened. And I
think the Democrats still are in this position where their
base does not want to bend to the reality that
sixty percent of the American people are just not with
them on all the illegals continuing to pile in and
a lot of the illegals being allowed to stay.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And this is it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
No, I was just gonna say the Layn Riley Act.
To your point, Buck, Lake and Riley is not going
to be the last victim here. So when Democrats are
not voting for this, the next time, sadly that someone
who is completely innocent like Lake and Riley gets raped
and murdered by an illegal who had previously been arrested,
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everyone is going to say, wait a minute, you voted
to allow this to occur. And so the residence of
this for Democrats is going to continue going forward. And
again I just say, leave aside politics. Is there a
single person in America that can defend this? I mean,
what is your defense that somebody should be able to
illegally come into the country and commit a crime and
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there should be no consequences for it.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
That's just a to me, a crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Town argument to make. And I don't even hear anybody
making that argument. They just pretend it isn't actually on
the ballot.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Well, you know, it's it's not crazy to somebody who
takes the position that we should give illegals free healthcare,
which if you remember, in the twenty twenty Democrat primary,
they all raise their hands on that stage and one
of the debate nights about how they wanted to give Obamacare,
which is effectively subsidized you know, Medicare expansion whatever you
want to call it, or a Medicaid expansion.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I mean, they wanted to give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
What you start to get very close to here, and
this is where I think a lot of the heat
and the outrage. Other than there's the crime aspect what
you're talking about, right, the additional crime of the illegality,
which should just seem like something that we could all
be on the exact same page about. But then there's
something beyond that too, Clay, do Democrats think that there's
really any that the US government should treat an illegal
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any differently than it treats an American citizen.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And I think the answer is quite clearly no.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I mean, if they had their way, they they would
just wave a wand and say no, now you're an
American too, and you get all the same stuff they
don't view that they don't. There's nothing about being an
American into them. That is, you know, that is more
than just the presence of physical being here in this country,
and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Effectively, they believe in a border less world. Yes, and
in a border less world, if there were no borders,
everybody wants to live in the United States because we're
the greatest country in the world, which is ironic because
Democrats would argue that we are also simultaneously not the
greatest country in the world, and that we're supremely racist,
which is why the ultimate lie here is if we
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were so racist, why are so many people trying to
die to get here?
Speaker 6 (43:36):
And then also, you know, the one thing that this
government is still really good at is building a massive
and onerous and burden some tax code for the people
who are here legally that we all have to deal
with so that then stuff can be given to people
who are here illegally and those laws don't count. I
don't know how anyone can see that as anything other
than a giants slap in the face to actual.
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Speaker 6 (45:14):
A lot of interesting stuff coming in here on the
email front about the situation in California, the wildfires that
are breaking out there. We'll also got some of your
calls here eight hundred two two two eight A two
Joan writes. The travesty of the California fires is that
original settlers and forest managers developed the fire control measures
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that worked over many decades. They realized long ago that
they were living in a desert region and the Santa
Ana winds were very dangerous if there was a fire.
They employed controlled burns, fire pits, and other measures to
prevent the spread of fires. Experts predicted that the fire
risks would increase when enviros started their insane lawsuits a
few decades ago. The legislature could fix the problem with
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the loss with the laws to permit sound forestry management. However,
it is California, and here Clay I would I would
point out this that. I think one of the great
frustrations a lot of people have as they see this
unfold is while we're saying, look, you know, I understand
the most important thing now is your thoughts and prayers
(46:18):
go for everybody who's affected, Go to everybody who's affected,
and that emergency services do the best job that they
can and save as many people in houses as as possible.
There is always going to be a conversation about the response,
the political leadership, the culpability or the lack of preparation
in that for that leadership. But you know, they also
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always want to make it about climate change, and I
think that that, unfortunately is there. It's a very deeply
ideological divide, and I think it also means that you
don't get to focus in on things that would actually help.
Saying that the global temperature is increasing whatever they think
that it is on a yearly basis is not helpful
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in actually dealing with this at all. But it then
turns you see what I mean, all of the focus
and energy becomes diverted from immediate actionable measures to do
something about this too. Hey, it's climate change. Now we
need to pass some bill in Congress. You know what,
I mean yeah, and actually bucket kind of ties in.
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I was reading a great piece in the Wall Street
Journal a couple of days ago about critical race theory
and how it actually destroys the argument itself. In other words,
they get it completely backward that actually Western civilization is
what allows critical race theory to even exist, because without
Western civilization, we would all still be living in such
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poor environments that nobody would be able to worry about
race and gender and ethnicity. But what I'm hearing from
a lot of people is climate change actually is preventing
the situation that would provide more help for issues associated
with climate right. So in other words, we should have
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way more reservoirs to be holding water, to be able
to provide more water for the people in Los Angeles area.
To your point, we had a really great winter, I
believe in the Sierra Madre Mountains. They now have filled
up the reservoirs to record levels over the last generation
or so, but we don't have enough. So we still
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lose a lot of that water, which is what Trump
has said. It goes out into the Pacific Ocean. It
isn't recollected, and one reason we don't have more reservoirs
is because the climate change people are concerned about the
impact of the reservoirs on the climate. So then you
end up with this situation where it becomes almost a
self fulfilling prophecy because you're not fighting the actual ravages
(48:55):
of the climates. As Adam said, and also as the
guy who called in Who's to why plane said, this
is something that existed throughout the history of this depography. Right,
It's not like wildfires just started in La now. They've
been going on for.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
As long as Los Angeles has existed as a community, Yes,
and long before.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
You would think that also improvements in technology. I saw
people sharing online that even if power went out in
their area, they still were able to stay or rather,
if the internet went out in the area, they were
still a bit to stay on because of starlink and
how and that meant that there was additional communication capability
in some of these areas that have been hit by
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you know, outages because because of the fire. You would
think that with increased technology and also the increased impetus
of more and more of these kinds of how more
and more housing and and habit you know, inhabitants in
some of these areas that we know are at risk
of these fires, that they would have more sophisticated systems
in place. Instead, it just feels like, as you're watching
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this and it's devastating and it's a gut punch just
to see this happening, to know a fellow American's fellow
human beings, it looks like not very much is done
at all to improve the overall infrastructure. I mean, I'm
not saying not much as being done by the firefighters
on the front lines now, I just mean in terms
of the state of California getting it in advance of
this and exceeding previous capabilities to be able to blunt
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this kind of a fire. It seems to me like
a lot of people writing in saying the same thing,
which is that this needs to be addressed. Pete writes
in California has a water system built fifty years ago
for a population of twenty million. The state now has
forty million people, but the Greenies have made it impossible
to enlarge the state's water system. The state needs more dams,
(50:47):
which create reservoirs needed to store the snow melt from
the Sierras and screw the delta smell.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, that's what I've heard from a lot of people
is that there needs to be more reservoir building. The
problem is, as he just laid out, you got the
environmentalists to say, oh, no, we're going to have an
impact on the insert fish or you know, random bird
or random salamander. And as a result, you have to
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deal with this in the LA area and I don't.
That's what's so frustrating about it is the people who
are making the argument about climate change are actually making
the climate more dangerous based on the policies that they
implement and endorse. And it's like, to your point, Buck,
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the cognition like it doesn't connect. Oh, we're making things
worse while we're trying to advocate to make things better.
It's like they can't process that connection because they're so
focused on their own moral righteousness associated with climate change
that they don't understand the consequences of their own actions. Yes,
and that means that you wouldn't get the kind of
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responding you're you're not getting the kind of action and
response to to fix these things from a you know,
a community or a collective.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Dare I say you know?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
There there shouldn't be such a divide over, like, well,
how do we agree how do we deal with this
in the future, like when you have a bad hurricane
Clay and if they don't have you know, if the
levee isn't big enough, or if they don't have enough resource.
Everything can sort of agree with these with these wildfires.
I mean the front page the New York Times. I've
seen the past, it's you know, well, this is why
we need to pass a bill, you know, mandating electric cars.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's like, what, what are you people talking about? That's
that's not what the problem is.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I think also it ties into your question, and you
have a unique perspective on it because you're a lifelong
New York City resident.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
What happened in normal city?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah yeah, oh careful, I don't want the the tax
hounds on your scent. What had to happen, you know
in New York City was New York City got so
awful that people were willing to elect Rudy Giuliani and
they were willing to say, hey, you know what, the
crime is so bad, the uh just deterioration of city
(53:03):
living is so bad that we're willing to change our trajectory.
And I think that happened in twenty twenty four, a
lot of black Asian Hispanic voters finally said, looked around
and said, our community actually getting better. What's going to
take for LA to make that choice? You know, Karen
Bass against Rick Caruso was that battle right, and Caruso
(53:23):
lost because to Adam's point, all of these left wing
liberals said, oh, Karen Bass is our solution, She's our salvation.
We got to have a black woman running Los Angeles. Well,
now she's in ghana, the city's burning. Rick Caruso is
rightly pointing out that there's all sorts of flaws responsing
to this crisis to many of those people. Do any
of those people make the connection that their vote has
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the consequence of making their life worse?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
That's what has to happen. It's almost like an intervention.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
You know, you can be an alcoholic, but until you
recognize that you have an issue with alcohol, everybody else
pointing to it and saying, hey, dude, maybe you should
have less to drink, it doesn't read into you make
that connection inside your brain and frustrating because sometimes it
takes a long time for an attic to recognize the addiction.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, absolutely, I'll.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Take some calls coming up here, and also we'll talk
about you know, Fetterman on the Clay mentioned this, Fetterman
on the immigration issue making some sense and not the
first time. Also Democrats what they are not willing to
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in we have it feels like we got a
lot of awful stories sometimes that stack up, and today
is one of them. For many of you on the
West Coast. I'm Clay Travis, He's Buck Sexton. We are
here with you for the next three hours trying to
bring sense to an otherwise insane world. We appreciate all
of you spending your time with us. As we sit
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here counting down the days until Donald Trump is inaugurated
and takes back control of the United States government. There
continues to be activity on Capitol Hill, a Republican speaker
and a Republican Senate. We will break down the latest there.
There's interesting moving parts. But as I'm sure many of
you have been paying attention to since yesterday evening when
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wildfire started and then the wins kicked up, there is
just an awful situation in LA. Lots of homes being
burned down, many people being put in incredible peril, and
we certainly are following that. We know many of you
probably are listening on your radios in the Los Angeles
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area to us right now, aware of everything that is
awful that is taking place in so many different communities
out there. But we've talked about this before, Buck, But I
went away to college in Washington, d C. I've lived
in Nashville for the vast majority of my life. But
the city that I've probably spent the most time in,
certainly over the last fifteen years or so, other than
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my home, is Los Angeles. I have a ton of
friends out there. I've spent a great deal of time
working at Fox Sports, variety of different television programs, many
amazing friends and family that live in that area now,
and so I know these area as well. I know
you've spent a decent amount of time in Los Angeles also.
But for those of you out there that might not
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be paying as much attention or have not had the
news on this morning, let me give you a little
bit of an update here from the press conferences that
have recently occurred. This is La County Fire Chief Marony
Anthony Moroney explaining there's over five thousand acres burned, no
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containment that has happened so far, still two thousand acres burning.
Listen to this as what it sounds like. This is
the latest in Los Angeles, La County.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
The Palisades Fire is located in both La City and
La County. We have well over five thousand acres that
have burned and the fire is growing. We have no
percentage of containment. We have an estimated one thousand structures
destroyed and also no reported fatalities and a high number
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of significant injuries to residents who did not evacuate, in
addition to first responders who are on the fire line.
For the Eton fire, it is located in both the
Angelus National Forest, the Alta Dina area of La County,
and Pasadena. We have over two thousand acres burning at
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this time and the fire continues to grow with zero
percent containment, and unfortunately, we have two reported fatalities to civilians.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So that is the absolute latest. That was just in
a press conference. Here is the CBS News National correspondent
Jonathan Vigliati explaining what exactly he is seeing in terms
of how rapidly this fire has been spreading because the
winds are so strong and so significant, carrying the flames
so many different directions. Listen to cuttoo.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
We're here at the heart of the Pacific Polisades in
a neighborhood that is a total loss.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You've got a home here. I'm going to flip over here, another.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Home loss coming, go over this way, homes out my street.
Con this one completely leveled. The firefighters here, they're not
trying to save these structures.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They're trying to prevent these clams.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
From jumping to other neighborhoods to see all these efforts.
In some cases, they're being carried more than a mile
in advance of these source flames lighting other homes on fire.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So Buck, we'll get into some of the responses that
have not been occurring at a level that Los Angeles
residents deserve here in a little bit. But for right now,
it's a true calamity that is befalling the nation's second
biggest city, and it is getting worse. It would appear
right now before it's going to get better, given the
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winds are still whipping around my understanding this morning in
Los Angeles in a fairly significant way.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
It's horrific, Clay, and people are able to see so
many different perspectives of this because of the instant connectivity
that we all have. The videos from inside of living
rooms as there are flames, you know, lapping at the
at the fence nearby, or at the pool nearby, from
people's homes.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's very visceral.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
All all feels too real for people who are just
observing this because of the ability that we have to
get those those real time images. The actor James Woods,
I don't know if you saw this. He had just
I believe, just finished construction on a home in the area,
and he had video that he shared of the flames
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right right off his deck. I mean, this is what
people are dealing with, and he's not sure what the status,
you know, Thoughts and prayers to James and his wife
and family. I think James and his wife are fine,
based on what I've seen on acts. They got out.
But people have lost homes, They've lost everything in the homes,
thousands of them, and it's it's a tragic. It's a
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tragic situation that's playing out. And I understand that, you know,
we don't want to politicize things. You don't want to
move into the Okay, a bad thing happens. Now, let
me find some way to assert how this fits into
my own political framework.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But I think you also have to look at.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
This responsibly and say, is los Angeles prepared for this
kind of a situation under a natural disaster. Is there
forestry management in the state of California still a huge problem.
There are clips of Trump talking about this from years
ago where he's like, they're doing a terrible job. They
won't clear the underbrush because of the environmentalists, and then
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it just burns too hot and too fast and it's
too dangerous. I mean there's and I even gotten to
the mayor of last I think we should play the
mayor of Los Angeles is gone. For those of you
out there who do not know, there was a highly
contested mayoral race in Los Angeles between two Democrats. So
this is a Democrat battle, Rick Caruso, who is a
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very successful billionaire developer, and Karen Bass. Karen Bass won.
She's in Ghana. We'll talk about that in a sect. Yes,
Africa right now watching the Ghana East president be inaugurated supposedly,
so she's not even a present.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But here is Rick Caruso saying.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
This is on Fox eleven News, that there's no water
coming out of the fire hydrants. They have not done
the appropriate prep to be able to handle something like this.
Listen to cut five.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
What is most concerning to me is our first responders,
in our firefighters who are trying to battle this. There's
no water in the Palace state. There's no water coming
out of the fire hydrant. This is an absolute mismanagement
by the city, not the firefighter's fault, but it's further city.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And I'm going to be very honest.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
We've got a mayor that's out of the country, and
we've got a city that's burning, and there's no resources
to put out fires. So if you look at your pictures,
you don't see the firefighters there because there's nothing they
can do. It looks like we're in a third world
country here.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's Rick Caruso buck again highly contested mayoral battle, the
current mayor of Los Angeles not there, supposedly flying back
from Africa.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But what he's talking about.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Rick Caruso, for those of you who don't know, ran
basically as a Rudy Giuliani Michael Bloomberg esque character, right
while he was more Republican, a little bit to the right,
but still many in many ways having to appeal to
a Democrat base. But this is and I know, and
by the way, if you are dealing with these fires,
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right now, and you are listening to us, and you
want to tell us what you are seeing. Eight hundred
and two eight two two eight a two. We have
a huge LA Area audience. I would like to hear
from people there. And to Rick Caruso's point, Buck, there
are tons of people out there.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I know.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We've got a clip of the actor.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Steve Gutenberg, who I saw out on the street trying
to help people, trying to get people safe. Let's play
that cut too. They're a ton of amazing people out there.
But the infrastructure, as Rick Caruso just said, is not
allowing the good people to do the most good. In
other words, much of the government is getting in the
way of the better instincts of so many people. Here's
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Steve Gutenberg one more clip from on the ground talking
about the challenges in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
He know Palisades Drive.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
If anybody has a car and they leave their car,
leave the keys in the car so that we can
move your car, so that these fire trucks can get
up Palisades Drive. What's happening is people take their keys
with them as if they're in a parking lot. This
is not a parking lot. We really need people to
move their cars. So if you leave your car in
Palisades Drive, leave the key in there so a guy
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like me can move your cars and get them up there,
so that so that these fire trucks can get up there.
It's really really important.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Thank you, Thank you for talking to us. Live sir.
What's her name? My name is Steve Guttenberg. Steve live
in the area.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
I live right up the hill and thank goodness, but
I have friends up there right now and they can't
evacuate because it's stuck on Kalistates Drive.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So that is the actor many people will know buck
Steve Gutenberg, which he's not even you know, he's just
trying to help his community. But it is that clip
woind viral. You can see him standing amidst the fire,
trying to help people out and evacuate people who need help.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And I think that this is it's worth noting that
this is not the first of these kinds of fires
in even recent years. I mean, you can go back
and what was that I'm looking here, Clay at in
twenty twenty there were really rough yeah, you know, wildfires
out by this way. I mean, this is you know,
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this is a fire season that this may be the
worst of any individual fire, but rough fire seasons have
been happening for years, and there is an issue of
forestry management and resources because they're putting right, if the
state of California is spending as they are, millions and millions,
I think they've even put you know, in the billions
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toward this over time. Yeah, since twenty eleven, this has
from twenty twenty, they've spent six hundred million dollars on
fire prevention efforts. Now, so you could assume now it's
gone up considerably. It's probably over a billion dollars on
fire prevention. And you say, well, what have they been
able to accomplish with this? When the mayor is gone
and when there's no water in the no water for
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the fire hoses from the hydrants, and the evac efforts
are hamstrung by a lack of necessary personnel. What are
people supposed to say? I've also seen, and this is troubling,
just to add on to all of this, that people
lost their fire coverage.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Have you seen this play?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
There's these comments online at least people have lost fire
coverage for their houses in just the months before this.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
People there are going to be people who have Now,
you know, this is where does the federal government declare
there's some kind of a national emergency situation. I mean,
what ends up or if you a federal emergency situation,
what ends up happening here remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it's a disaster.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's a mess, and if you know, first and foremost
thoughts in perse everybody affected by it, and we hope
everybody gets out safe, And then I think there does
need to be a conversation about accountability for the state authorities,
not the firefighters who are out there risking their lives
and taking in smoke and everything. By all accounts, they've
been doing incredible work. And the fire teams they have
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are are phenomenal that are trying to fight these things
and trying to you know, prevent this from getting even
worse than it is. But at the top management level
of dealing with really it's a forestry issue, right, I mean,
that's what it comes down to, I think more than
anything else, the dry kindling, the tinder, and the underbrush.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Are they spending enough time on this?
Speaker 6 (12:50):
Are they bowing to the environmentalist concerns that just demand
you don't touch stuff those are valid questions when people
are turning around and looking at how could something like
this happen and get so out of control?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
No doubt, and we're going to continue to take your calls.
We'll play some of these cuts again. To Buck's point,
this was a very foreseeable tragedy, and are the people
of Los Angeles being served by the best possible representatives
that could be dealing with this tragedy right now? I
think the answer is no. And certainly the mayor didn't
know this was going to happen. But why in the
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world is the mayor of Los Angeles that an African
inauguration ceremony?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I mean I would just also say, Clay, we know
that California is on a on a major fault line.
You know, I if California had a I didn't they
just had an earthquake pretty recently, right, But if California
had a relatively modern earthquake and entire buildings were collapsing
because the code didn't actually have them prepared for it,
that would be a lack of preparation, right. I mean,
just because something's a natural disaster, it doesn't mean that
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you can't say, well, hold on a second, did you
you know in Florida we're prepared for hurricanes all the time.
Doesn't mean that it's going to be perfect. Obviously, you
do the best you can with the response, but you
gotta be ready.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
When Rick Caruso is saying that all of our fire
hydrants don't have actual, you know, water in them, I
mean it seems like that the fire hydrants, yeah, should
have water in them.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
That seems reasonable. I want to know why that, Why
they don't have that, why they haven't collected the water
for that. All right, we'll take some of your calls
on this. We've got a lot of you listening California,
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We've got Adam Carolla joining us from California.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You all know Adam.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Adam appreciate you making the time for us. Under the circumstances.
We know a lot going on. It's a very tough situation.
Tell us what you know, what you're seeing, and what
everyone needs to be aware of.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
So yesterday I went to the Equinox Gym on Sunset
Boulevard and pch and I walked out of the place
at about ten forty five in the morning, and I
looked up Sunset Boulevard and I I think there's a
fire up there. And that's exactly where it started. When
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it started. Then I went into Glendale, California to do
my podcast, and subsequently came back to Malibu where I
lived at about six in the evening, sat down, and
as soon as my aunt at the sofa, we were
alerted that it was time to evacuate. So packed up
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what I needed to get by and then drove out
to Burbank, California and checked into a hotel where I'm
at right now. So obviously I've been following it through
the news and talking to neighbors and that sort of thing,
but I've not been back since I left last night.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
How's your home? Do you know personally how your home
has been.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I woke up this morning to a neighbor telling me
it was all gone, and then then the neighbor revised
the report later on to maybe it's still there.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So that's a big that's a big range of reporting
from the neighbor.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'll point out.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, you know, sometimes the ladies jumped the gun a
little bit with the information. So I was pretty devastated
this morning, and now I'm in some sort of hopeful phase.
But there's really not a great way to get information
because you can't go down there and look for yourself.
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So you you watch the news and you see little
bits and pieces where you go, oh, that's the restaurant
up the street, you know, and you try to piece
together cobble together some information, but it's it's pretty much
just sitting on pins and needles, waiting to get back
there to see if it's gone or not.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
Now, Adam, you've probably seen the President already wait in
uh has has some harsh words for for Governor Newscomb
as he calls him. Uh So, President Trump is going
right off for it here and specifically saying that there's
been inadequate expansion to the water system and effectively inadequate
preparation for an event like this by the state of California,
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perhaps by Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
In addition to that, what is the truth of that?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
I mean, for people who don't live there, I think
it's hard to know what's proposed, what's been considered, and
what could have been done. I mean, do you have
a read on is there just growth? Is there grotesque
in competence at play here in terms of the preparation
for an event like this?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, I did twenty minutes on my podcast on Today's show,
which was on the subject of Most of these fires
are started by downed power lines. So we have a
decrepit power grid, and our power lines are not buried.
They're up on power poles, and the power poles are
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eighty years old, and the winds hit, they knock the
poles down and the hot wires start the fire, and
or when it gets windy, they just shut off all
the power, so you have no power in the middle
of trying to evacuate because we have a decrepit system.
Keep in mind, Newsome is now putting more money into
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the high speed rail, which isn't high speed rail from
Bakersfield to Merced, about one hundred and fifty miles way
out of California, in the middle of nowhere. Nobody lives
in Bakersfield or mersaid they're already eighty billion dollars over
budget on it, and I did twenty minutes on why
don't we take that eighty billion dollars or the two
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hundred billion dollars that's going to cost a build rail
from Merced to Bakersfield, which impacts nobody, and use that
money to upgrade our grid and bury those lines up
and down pch where the fire is happening, and all
the multimillion dollar houses, there's fire poles fall all over
the place. One of their big problems is power lines.
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Everywhere the firepole catches on fire, the power lines come down,
the trucks can't pull in, and you can't evacuate if
there's hot wires or even cold power lines on the
ground that you don't know are live or not. It's
a big issue and it's insane that we have the
same technologies they had in eighteen seventy five with the
power poles.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You've lived in California, not since eighteen seventy five, but
a lot of people have moved in during your lifetime there, Adam,
how would you assess we were just talking on the show.
You know, if the hurricane God Forbid hits Florida, which
happens pretty much every year of different varieties. Right now,
Floridians feel very confident that their governor and their local
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government is going to do the best job possible responding
to that hurricane. What do you think your average Californian
thinks about the city and state leadership in cal in
terms of responding to something like this, What value add
if any is California getting from its political leadership, or
is it actually detracting from the innate goodness of many
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of the people in the LA area.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, you know, as you know, we're all sort of
good vibes and we want the first you know, African
American woman fire chief and mayor, and we get all
into that. But when the as goes down, then we
want to know what's going on. You know, I was
looking at it today and I realized we have an
incompetent mayor, Karen bats who is in India or something
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or Africa doing something collecting beads. I don't know what
she was doing over there, but she's incompetence. We don't
have a system of reservoirs and water collection and fire
hydrants and stuff. It's all a mess. Obviously. The think
about this. The places that just burn to the ground,
the multi million dollar houses and I'm not saying two
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million dollar houses, I'm I'm saying twenty eight million dollar houses. Wow.
The houses that burned to the ground in the community
were Malibu Palisades and Santa Monica, all overwhelmingly blue, all
New Some voters, all Karen Bass voters. They voted for
all of this, and now their houses are gone.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean that is kind of reaping what you
sew on some level, right, Adam. And so many people
have left California. I was talking about the number of
UCLA and USC flags I see in my Tennessee neighborhood.
Now a lot of them moved to to Florida, where
Buck lives. Now, as a lifelong Californian, have you thought, hey,
is it time to uproot and go somewhere else through COVID?
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I know you travel all over the country doing your shows,
but has this maybe and many of the other things
that have just kind of strung together calamity after calamity
for Californians, does it make you want to uproot?
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I bought land in Henderson. They're fat and I'm
literally leaving after my podcast to head up to Vegas
and do some shows, but to go look at my
land and meet with the architect and the builder. So
oh yeah, those plans have been on the table for
a long time because all you do is pay taxes.
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And it's it's three parts. It's you pay taxes, you
pay an aornent amount of taxes, you get nothing in return,
And they wag their finger at you and want to
know why you're not doing more or paying your fair share.
You get villainized. So it's not only the part where
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you don't get anything, and it's not only the part
where you pay for everything. Then whenever these guys run
for elections, they villainize the people that are keeping the
lights on in California.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Why do you think, Adam, there there is in a
faster recognition of what you're describing right there. Whether someone
wants to call it, you know, being being red pilled.
I don't know seeing reality reacting to events with common sense.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is it just the.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Ideological they're so ideological dug in that there's not enough
suffering from the bad policy to make people want to
try leadership. That's different. I mean Gavin Newson was supposed
to be recalled and then he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you there's gonna be a lot of converts.
And I'll tell you where then where the conversion happens
over to the logical side, over to the right side
when you try to build something. So I'll be fast here,
but I've been a builder my whole life. I had
to pull permits on everything. When you have to deal
with the city and pull permits. That's when you become conservative.
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And if you hear Bill Maher in the last five
years sounding a little more like us, he brings up
trying to get a solar shack built. Right. He wanted
to get solar power in his house. He had to
pull permits. It took him three years. They wouldn't let
him do it. And now he sounds like us because
now he's pissed because he doesn't want your bureaucracy. Bill
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Marsh spoken more about bureaucracy and red tape and burdenso
rules in the last two years than he has in
the thirty years before that. It's because he's trying to
do something. All these houses in the Palisades, all the
houses in Malibu, all the houses in Santa Monica. When
they try to rebuild, and a couple of those jentas
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from the Coastal Commission tell them no, or you're gonna
have to wait in line, or it's going to take
five years. That's when they're going to turn.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I know, we want your home to be okay.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
We want you and everybody else out there listening in
LA to be fine. Questions that you're in the entertainment space.
I know that you have been a Trump supporter for
some time. Has the culture of Los Angeles and the
culture of Hollywood expanded, as it is to many different
locations creating content? How is How have you found it
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responding to the Trump election this time compared to in
twenty sixteen and maybe in twenty twenty. Is there a
vibe shift that you can feel?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah? Remember all of Hollywood. Hollywood are mostly cowards, mostly
hypocritical powers. Now if you don't believe me that there's
runaway production. They all film in Canada. Why they film
in Canada They get a tax break. Then they come
back to their homes in Beverly Hills and lecture everyone
about paying a little bit more in taxes so others
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could get a hand up. Right, So they're all hypocrites,
they're all cowards, and they'll go with whatever flow the
nation's go into, especially money wise. You've seen it with Disney,
You've seen it with all these corporations getting rid of DEI.
Now you've seen it with the tech roads. So they
will line up behind Trump just for commerce.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, that's a good thing, that's I think.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Also we're seeing that at them with the break in
the corporate embargo, boycott if you will, of all things
Trump from Amazon now or is it Netflix?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Who's you know?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Amazon's doing the forty million dollar deal with Milania for
the buy of the new Milania biography.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, new Millennium, Right? I mean, are we going to
see a lot more of that at them?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Do you think now they realize that they can't just
continue to stiff farm half the country?
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I think so. And also I think as Trump's implemented
plans bear fruit and start to be effective, and as
the aforementioned Gavin Newsom and the Karen Basses and all
the Blue cities and the crime and the crime on
the subway and the fires in Los Angeles, you know,
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as Los Angeles and New York City start to implode,
and as Trump's policies bear fruit, I think You're going
to wake up even the heaviest sleepers.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And I would add this to Adam, thanks for coming
on with this, and we certainly are wishing you the best.
You know this, and I've seen it happen a lot.
The amount of times you're on a television show or
you're on some sort of production and guys come up
who have the cameras or guys come up who are
building the sets and they just whisper, you know, something like, hey, man,
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I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
You're right about everything.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
There's actually a huge contingent even in the entertainment space
that agrees with a lot of what we say every
single day.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Oh yeah, And it's always a sort of blue collar
side of it. So aways the guys on the dark
side of the bright lights, you know, yeah, the grits
and the cameramen, you know, the truck drivers, all those guys,
the teams. They're always the guys who quietly tell you
they agree and then pull their mask back up real
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quick under their way.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's right, Adam, Best of luck. Thank you for making
the time. I know it's a crazy time right now
out in La. If you hear anything else you want
to call in an update is phel free. We appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (29:01):
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monitor everything going on in Los Angeles associated with the wildfires,
and that is a current calamity that is ongoing. Will
again continue to keep you a pre of everything that
is going on there. Will take some of your calls
if you're in that California region and you want to
tell us what you are seeing right now as it
comes to the wildfires. But there is a lot going on,
(31:11):
not only associated with what's going on in California, but
all the way across the country. As we prepare for
the inauguration of Donald Trump, there is action in Congress.
We have a new speaker, as we told you last week,
Mike Johnson officially in and John Thune the Senate majority leader,
and they passed already a bill I believe it's the
first bill that they passed, the Lake and Riley Act
(31:33):
in the House with some Democrat support and unanimity on
the Republican side, which would say if you're arrested for
a crime, that you are immediately deported. Because Lake and
Riley's alleged killer was arrested in New York and was
not deported. And now there is a major discussion surrounding
(31:54):
that that has moved to the Senate, where Republicans have
fifty three votes. Vetterman says that if they can't get
the Democrats seven votes to get them to sixty and
move it past any sort of filibuster related activity, that
this is the reason why we lost, meaning the Democrat
Party in the twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think there's some truth to it. Cut ten.
Speaker 9 (32:18):
If you're here illegally and you're committing crimes and those things,
I don't know why anybody thinks that it's controversial that
they all need to go.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Do you think that this was one of, if not
the biggest issue for this election.
Speaker 9 (32:31):
Well, I think if we can't. You know, there's forty
seven of us in the Senate, and if we can't
pull up with seven votes, and if we can't get
at least seven out of forty seven, and if we can't,
then that's the reason why we lost. That's one of them.
That's one of why we lost.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
In part, common sense to me, Buck, I mean, John
Fetterman maybe the most making the most sense of any
Democrat in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's funny.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I just wanted to note that I feel this claim
when we talk about Fetterman, and also it came up
when we were discussing Mark Zuckerberg yesterday. You know, when
someone says the right thing and you want to say, well,
that's the right thing, it doesn't mean that you forget
about all the things that they have done before. So
we can't always do the preamble because I don't know
if you got this. I saw a little heat about, oh, well,
(33:20):
Zuckerberg doing the right thing. Now he did all this
terrible damage to free speech. Yeah, and we've been talking
about that for years. But when someone says the right thing,
I'm not gonna say it's the wrong thing. And with Fetterman,
he has had a habit now of being among the
most reasonable in his public pronouncements. Democrats in the Senate, Now,
(33:41):
is he still going to vote lockstep with Chuck Schumer
on everything?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's what really matters. So we haven't lost sight of that. Right.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
It's one thing to get a good SoundBite on Fox
when you're a Democrat. It's another thing to be willing
to break with your party on common sense issues. Break
with your parties. A Democrat on common sense issues, go along.
I just wanted to say that because I feel like
every time, you know, we say, look, Fetterman said a
good thing, people say, well, it doesn't mean that he's
I know, it doesn't mean But now we get into
(34:08):
the immigration piece of this clay, they didn't want to
go forward. The Democrats rather, aren't wanting to go forward
with this. I think because the illegal immigrant community in
the United States is a favored constituency. It's not even
just that they, you know, don't want to go as
(34:30):
far as Donald Trump does. Obviously with mass deportations. The
Democrat Party, the base and the people that are the
most ideologically committed to the left, they think that all
of the illegals are a victim class, right, and so
this is why they're even sometimes off when it comes
(34:50):
to the politics of this. I've said this about climate
change and some other things too, where their ideology blinds
them to the political reality. And I think that's what
we saw in this election. They're so ideologically invested in
the illegal immigrant community or you know, the illegal aliens,
I say illegal aliens, they call them undocumented, that they
(35:11):
can't see clearly what the political reality of it may be.
And it's because they think of them as a victim
class predominantly non white.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
They viewed as a race issue.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
They viewed it as a you know, anti colonial and
a sort of global, one world government issue. There's all
kinds of stuff that comes together. But the Democrats would
stand in the way the possibility, I should say, if
Democrats trying to stand in the way here of telling
people of deporting people who are already deportable under law.
And that's a part of this that's so important. It's
(35:40):
not like you're not deportable just because you haven't committed
a crime, but now you're committing additional crimes.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Be detained at that point and be subject to being
sent back to the country that is your actual country
of origin and nationality.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
One hundred and fifty nine, I believe is the number
of Democrats voted against this bill. To think about how
crazy that is, and Fetterman is saying, we need to
get seven out of forty seven, whatever your politics are.
If someone to bucks Point is illegally here, and then
(36:14):
they aid further in that act of illegality by committing
a crime in a country that they are legally in,
they are arrested for that crime. So not only have
they committed a crime, they've been arrested. And we all
know the number of times that you commit a crime
and get arrested is actually lower than the number of
(36:35):
crimes that you're committing. Right, most people don't get arrested
the first time they stand athwart the law, particularly in
a blue city or a blue state where they have
delegitimized the arrest of criminals. In general, how in the
world could you defend this, like just leave aside Democrat, Republican, independent,
(36:58):
and if people just think rationally, how could you defend
your community having people who are illegally there and then
on top of the illegality of their being there, they
then commit an act of illegality. On top of that,
it is absolute bonker banana land that you could have
(37:20):
a political party that doesn't advocate for those people being
sent out of the country. And then we know, once
you're committing crimes, it's not a long stretch to say
that you're likely to commit another crime. And this is
what happened. If you're not familiar or have forgotten, this
is called the Lake and Riley Act because not only
(37:42):
was she killed and attacked by an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Raped and murdered. Yes, she should have.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Never had to deal with this, because this guy was
arrested in New York and should have been sent right
out of the country right then and there instead of.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Allowed to go to Georgia and commit another crime.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
And New York, under policy made by the mayor and
the City Council, has the makes the affirmative decision that
they will not even they will not work with ice.
They will not they will not listen to any detainer
requests from Immigration and Customs enforcement. So they actively make
(38:18):
it harder for federal law enforcement to do their job.
This is what sanctuary jurisdictions are. And think about that,
I mean, think about how many cities there are in
the country where there is a policy in place that
law enforcement authorities make it harder for federal law enforcement
to do their job. And I know they say, oh,
we don't have to do that, so that's a yeah,
(38:40):
But in so many other areas clay of the law.
I mean, I've said this before. If it's a drug case,
a terrorism case, when the Feds asked the you know,
the state or local law enforcement for help, they work
together all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
It's only on this.
Speaker 6 (38:54):
Issue where you have this this effort at almost near
nullification by the local law enforcement to wor you know,
the the certainly the ignoring, if qualification is too strong word,
ignoring the federal law because they think it's politically expedient
to do so, or at least they're the people that
are writing the checks think it's politically expedient to do so.
I don't think this is going to play well for
(39:15):
Democrats though going forward. I think that they've got a
real problem here because the numbers under Biden got so extreme.
They had to admit that this was a disaster and.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Crime is an issue, and when you're allowing criminals that
shouldn't be here to stay here, I don't understand how anyone,
regardless of their politics, can defend this policy.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Well, Clay, also, remember it's when they're talking about something
like stealing. It shouldn't be that hard to be in
this country and not and not steal, right, that should
be pretty that should be pretty straightforward. But also on
the politics of this, remember we don't think about, you know,
Kamala right now. Where Shi Kamala's going to? I think Germany,
Bach Rain and where else?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (39:54):
I forget there's a third one. It's I didn't even
know this, I like Brunei or something. I mean, she's
going to like some guard of Singapore, Singapore, I think
that's where she is. Is it last boondoggle? You know,
it's a last taxpayer funded vacation. And we don't think
about Kamala very much these days for you know, many reasons.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thankfully, Yeah, thankfully.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
But remember when she was talking about building the wall.
I mean that's the Democrats were in this tough spot
because their internal numbers were showing and obviously the election
played this out or the election proved this.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Their internal numbers were showing they were.
Speaker 6 (40:29):
In a terrible position on immigration, and so they started
to have Kamala just test out, you know, yeah, I'm
gonna also build a wall.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Do you remember.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
I mean, it's it almost feels like it was it
was surreal, like it couldn't have actually happened. And I
think the Democrats still are in this position where their
base does not want to bend to the reality that
sixty percent of the American people are just not with
them on all the illegals continuing to pile in and
a lot of the illegals being allowed to stay.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And this is it.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
No, I was just gonna say the Layn Riley Act.
To your point, Buck, Lake and Riley is not going
to be the last victim here. So when Democrats are
not voting for this, the next time, sadly that someone
who is completely innocent like Lake and Riley gets raped
and murdered by an illegal who had previously been arrested,
(41:19):
everyone is going to say, wait a minute, you voted
to allow this to occur. And so the residence of
this for Democrats is going to continue going forward. And
again I just say, leave aside politics. Is there a
single person in America that can defend this? I mean,
what is your defense that somebody should be able to
illegally come into the country and commit a crime and
(41:42):
there should be no consequences for it.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
That's just a to me, a crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Town argument to make. And I don't even hear anybody
making that argument. They just pretend it isn't actually on
the ballot.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Well, you know, it's it's not crazy to somebody who
takes the position that we should give illegals free healthcare,
which if you remember, in the twenty twenty Democrat primary,
they all raise their hands on that stage and one
of the debate nights about how they wanted to give Obamacare,
which is effectively subsidized you know, Medicare expansion whatever you
want to call it, or a Medicaid expansion.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I mean, they wanted to give free health care to illegals.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
What you start to get very close to here, and
this is where I think a lot of the heat
and the outrage. Other than there's the crime aspect what
you're talking about, right, the additional crime of the illegality,
which should just seem like something that we could all
be on the exact same page about. But then there's
something beyond that too, Clay, do Democrats think that there's
really any that the US government should treat an illegal
(42:44):
any differently than it treats an American citizen.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
And I think the answer is quite clearly no.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
I mean, if they had their way, they they would
just wave a wand and say no, now you're an
American too, and you get all the same stuff they
don't view that they don't. There's nothing about being an
American into them. That is, you know, that is more
than just the presence of physical being here in this country,
and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Effectively, they believe in a border less world. Yes, and
in a border less world, if there were no borders,
everybody wants to live in the United States because we're
the greatest country in the world, which is ironic because
Democrats would argue that we are also simultaneously not the
greatest country in the world, and that we're supremely racist,
which is why the ultimate lie here is if we
(43:32):
were so racist, why are so many people trying to
die to get here?
Speaker 6 (43:36):
And then also, you know, the one thing that this
government is still really good at is building a massive
and onerous and burden some tax code for the people
who are here legally that we all have to deal
with so that then stuff can be given to people
who are here illegally and those laws don't count. I
don't know how anyone can see that as anything other
than a giants slap in the face to actual.
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Speaker 6 (45:14):
A lot of interesting stuff coming in here on the
email front about the situation in California, the wildfires that
are breaking out there. We'll also got some of your
calls here eight hundred two two two eight A two
Joan writes. The travesty of the California fires is that
original settlers and forest managers developed the fire control measures
(45:35):
that worked over many decades. They realized long ago that
they were living in a desert region and the Santa
Ana winds were very dangerous if there was a fire.
They employed controlled burns, fire pits, and other measures to
prevent the spread of fires. Experts predicted that the fire
risks would increase when enviros started their insane lawsuits a
few decades ago. The legislature could fix the problem with
(45:58):
the loss with the laws to permit sound forestry management. However,
it is California, and here Clay I would I would
point out this that. I think one of the great
frustrations a lot of people have as they see this
unfold is while we're saying, look, you know, I understand
the most important thing now is your thoughts and prayers
(46:18):
go for everybody who's affected, Go to everybody who's affected,
and that emergency services do the best job that they
can and save as many people in houses as as possible.
There is always going to be a conversation about the response,
the political leadership, the culpability or the lack of preparation
in that for that leadership. But you know, they also
(46:42):
always want to make it about climate change, and I
think that that, unfortunately is there. It's a very deeply
ideological divide, and I think it also means that you
don't get to focus in on things that would actually help.
Saying that the global temperature is increasing whatever they think
that it is on a yearly basis is not helpful
(47:05):
in actually dealing with this at all. But it then
turns you see what I mean, all of the focus
and energy becomes diverted from immediate actionable measures to do
something about this too. Hey, it's climate change. Now we
need to pass some bill in Congress. You know what,
I mean yeah, and actually bucket kind of ties in.
(47:29):
I was reading a great piece in the Wall Street
Journal a couple of days ago about critical race theory
and how it actually destroys the argument itself. In other words,
they get it completely backward that actually Western civilization is
what allows critical race theory to even exist, because without
Western civilization, we would all still be living in such
(47:51):
poor environments that nobody would be able to worry about
race and gender and ethnicity. But what I'm hearing from
a lot of people is climate change actually is preventing
the situation that would provide more help for issues associated
with climate right. So in other words, we should have
(48:13):
way more reservoirs to be holding water, to be able
to provide more water for the people in Los Angeles area.
To your point, we had a really great winter, I
believe in the Sierra Madre Mountains. They now have filled
up the reservoirs to record levels over the last generation
or so, but we don't have enough. So we still
(48:33):
lose a lot of that water, which is what Trump
has said. It goes out into the Pacific Ocean. It
isn't recollected, and one reason we don't have more reservoirs
is because the climate change people are concerned about the
impact of the reservoirs on the climate. So then you
end up with this situation where it becomes almost a
self fulfilling prophecy because you're not fighting the actual ravages
(48:55):
of the climates. As Adam said, and also as the
guy who called in Who's to why plane said, this
is something that existed throughout the history of this depography. Right,
It's not like wildfires just started in La now. They've
been going on for.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
As long as Los Angeles has existed as a community, Yes,
and long before.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
You would think that also improvements in technology. I saw
people sharing online that even if power went out in
their area, they still were able to stay or rather,
if the internet went out in the area, they were
still a bit to stay on because of starlink and
how and that meant that there was additional communication capability
in some of these areas that have been hit by
(49:36):
you know, outages because because of the fire. You would
think that with increased technology and also the increased impetus
of more and more of these kinds of how more
and more housing and and habit you know, inhabitants in
some of these areas that we know are at risk
of these fires, that they would have more sophisticated systems
in place. Instead, it just feels like, as you're watching
(49:59):
this and it's devastating and it's a gut punch just
to see this happening, to know a fellow American's fellow
human beings, it looks like not very much is done
at all to improve the overall infrastructure. I mean, I'm
not saying not much as being done by the firefighters
on the front lines now, I just mean in terms
of the state of California getting it in advance of
this and exceeding previous capabilities to be able to blunt
(50:24):
this kind of a fire. It seems to me like
a lot of people writing in saying the same thing,
which is that this needs to be addressed. Pete writes
in California has a water system built fifty years ago
for a population of twenty million. The state now has
forty million people, but the Greenies have made it impossible
to enlarge the state's water system. The state needs more dams,
(50:47):
which create reservoirs needed to store the snow melt from
the Sierras and screw the delta smell.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, that's what I've heard from a lot of people
is that there needs to be more reservoir building. The
problem is, as he just laid out, you got the
environmentalists to say, oh, no, we're going to have an
impact on the insert fish or you know, random bird
or random salamander. And as a result, you have to
(51:15):
deal with this in the LA area and I don't.
That's what's so frustrating about it is the people who
are making the argument about climate change are actually making
the climate more dangerous based on the policies that they
implement and endorse. And it's like, to your point, Buck,
(51:36):
the cognition like it doesn't connect. Oh, we're making things
worse while we're trying to advocate to make things better.
It's like they can't process that connection because they're so
focused on their own moral righteousness associated with climate change
that they don't understand the consequences of their own actions. Yes,
and that means that you wouldn't get the kind of
(51:59):
responding you're you're not getting the kind of action and
response to to fix these things from a you know,
a community or a collective.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
Dare I say you know?
Speaker 6 (52:08):
There there shouldn't be such a divide over, like, well,
how do we agree how do we deal with this
in the future, like when you have a bad hurricane
Clay and if they don't have you know, if the
levee isn't big enough, or if they don't have enough resource.
Everything can sort of agree with these with these wildfires.
I mean the front page the New York Times. I've
seen the past, it's you know, well, this is why
we need to pass a bill, you know, mandating electric cars.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's like, what, what are you people talking about? That's
that's not what the problem is.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
I think also it ties into your question, and you
have a unique perspective on it because you're a lifelong
New York City resident.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
What happened in normal city?
Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah yeah, oh careful, I don't want the the tax
hounds on your scent. What had to happen, you know
in New York City was New York City got so
awful that people were willing to elect Rudy Giuliani and
they were willing to say, hey, you know what, the
crime is so bad, the uh just deterioration of city
(53:03):
living is so bad that we're willing to change our trajectory.
And I think that happened in twenty twenty four, a
lot of black Asian Hispanic voters finally said, looked around
and said, our community actually getting better. What's going to
take for LA to make that choice? You know, Karen
Bass against Rick Caruso was that battle right, and Caruso
(53:23):
lost because to Adam's point, all of these left wing
liberals said, oh, Karen Bass is our solution, She's our salvation.
We got to have a black woman running Los Angeles. Well,
now she's in ghana, the city's burning. Rick Caruso is
rightly pointing out that there's all sorts of flaws responsing
to this crisis to many of those people. Do any
of those people make the connection that their vote has
(53:45):
the consequence of making their life worse?
Speaker 1 (53:47):
That's what has to happen. It's almost like an intervention.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
You know, you can be an alcoholic, but until you
recognize that you have an issue with alcohol, everybody else
pointing to it and saying, hey, dude, maybe you should
have less to drink, it doesn't read into you make
that connection inside your brain and frustrating because sometimes it
takes a long time for an attic to recognize the addiction.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, absolutely, I'll.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
Take some calls coming up here, and also we'll talk
about you know, Fetterman on the Clay mentioned this, Fetterman
on the immigration issue making some sense and not the
first time. Also Democrats what they are not willing to
go along with it them. It's pretty stunning stuff. We'll
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