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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I know probably
a lot of you had a long weekend. We were
here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you
can go grab the podcast as always, make sure you
never miss a minute. You can search out my name
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be a part of the podcast network, and also you
can enjoy Iheart's actual news that does not have a
crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,
there are still a lot of crazy slants that are
coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about
(00:49):
this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it
because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this
is where we are. That on Sunday, CBS News could say, hey,
the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,
and then later in the day they could go have
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a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they
praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared
a meme that the government authorities decided they did not like.
And I understand some of you are not active on
social media. For people who don't know, a meme, which
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is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,
the more typically you are into memes is often just
a humorous take on something in the world of current events,
a picture, an image, a quick video. It's a joke.
And now they have decided that if jokes are considered
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to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government
should conduct a raid and you can be arrested for
a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may
have posted online and so and so, let's actually listen,
(02:19):
because we didn't play this cut yesterday. Let's actually listen
to what it sounds like live on sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
This aired in America.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to
have the German police joined on this raid.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's six oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
were with state police as they raided this apartment in
northwest Germany just to put inside inside. Six armed officers
searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.
Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit
(03:04):
a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online. At
the exact same time, across Germany, more than fifty similar
raids played out, part of what prosecutors say is a
coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think
it's important for you all to understand, because this is
what the left would do in this country if they
could a pre dawn raid of an apartment of a
German citizen because somebody in the government decided that they
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had shared a racist meme. One of fifty simultaneous raids,
six with a camera crew in tow, six different government
agents going into an apartment and see using a laptop
and a phone. This is this is this is crazy, Buck,
This is true across Europe, and it is also a
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mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it
is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish
they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they
did for a while. During COVID they got they got
really close to this. I mean when they were shutting
down bars and arresting bar owners because they weren't enforcing
masking policy enough like morons, you know, meaning you're a
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moron if you think that a mask policy in a
bar had anything to do with stopping COVID. This is
the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a
society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few
things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,
this is always wait, actually I would step back for
a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,
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and cover it objective, you know, objectively, just meaning, hey,
this is what's going on.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
This should be like peta going to a dog fighting ring,
Like this should be the most heinous thing. If you're
actually a journalist and somebody who makes a living in
the exchange of ideas and information as an American, you're
supposed to think the First Amendment is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
For journalists to go and.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Be like, oh wow, look at this, look at the
Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows you
what a fraud I mean this is journalists are frauds
in this country. So we know the whole thing, and honestly,
it's not about oh, there are some good ones and
bad ones. Everyone has opinions, everyone's pushing agendas. They either
tell you the truth about what they think or they're
just lying to you, and CBS is just continuing to
lie to you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering
on this, and I know I'm getting to be an
old man because as I age, I am seeing it
more and more and certainly running a business. No one
at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at
at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.
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Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we
have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,
should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities
rating in the early morning hours a random person's house
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over a joke that they posted on laws.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But this is why they're telling on themselves, and they
agree with this. This is the CBS is covering the
German meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking,
if only we could do this, we could have our
DEI back, and our affirmative action back, and our left
wing trans policies back, and our go down the list.
If only we could suppress speech the way they do
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in Germany, we would be a better society. This also
leads to the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads
to the Holocaust, which is directly connected. Of course, it's
all the same mentality. So what we're showing you in
Germany or what we're talking about happening in Europe right now,
UK and other places. Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's
stock crime, straight up thought crime. There's no other way.
(07:05):
It's what were you thinking when you were standing in
that place? Here's what I was thinking. You're under arrest.
This is something that the that the left has tried
to import here. I think if Donald Trump had lost
this election, they would have kept pushing and gotten even
closer to it, because remember Trump had lost, they would
have I mean, they would have been trying to lock
Trump up. I mean all the things we know, all
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the things that would have happened. And a big, another
big part of this, specifically in the European context, clay
that I think very much translates into the American context.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What are the means? What is this stuff really about?
You know what it's about illegals coming into their or I.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Shouldn't even say illegals. In their case, they're legal. Actually
they're migrants to the government has allowed in Muslim migrants,
particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a number of war toward countries
coming into their countries, committing terrorist acts, raping women, sexually
assaulting women in packs, in numbers that these European countries
haven't ever seen before, Meaning they're dealing with these spikes
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in crime.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, you don't have to we have we'll play
it later. The CEO of.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say, you want
to get it right now. I think let's do it
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Let's go. Here's this, here's Alex karp Off Palenteer. It's
about a minute clip.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I really want you to listen to it, because this
is what the meme wars, and they're trying to shut
it down in Europe is actually all.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
About play it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You lived in Germany for half your life, yea, And
there is a big debate going on about the politics
in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is
support and you've even seen it over the weekend. Marco
Rubio and Elon Musk and others have been very supportive
of the Alt right movement in Germany.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
While there have been questions about their.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Association with some supporting Nazis and other things, I'm curious
where you land on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't want to go into the technical wits here,
but the real the problem in Germany is that somehow
the small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk
about migration without being a bigot, which is about probably
fifteen ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties,
have somehow tricked the larger parties into saying they will
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only vote for things if the far right doesn't vote
with them, which basically, as a matter pragmatic power, shifts
all immigration policy to a small group of people that
literally will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani
immigrants to Germany of a seventy x seventy x propensity
compared to German population to commit certain kind of crimes,
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and that in the last couple of weeks, every single
terror attack, every single tarror attack, has been the result.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get
into trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's that's what all this is about. By the way,
Europeans who are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if
we didn't have the Muslim migrants we've taken in the
last we basically would have no sexual we'd have no
rapes in this country. I mean the number of be
almost partially no terrorism and no terrorism, maybe we don't
want more of this. The governments that did this, like
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Angela Miracle's government in Germany and these other governments that
were very much global it's very much part of this,
you know, one world government paradigm play. They sold out
their countries to this idea of we don't need borders,
we should bring in everybody from everywhere. And now these
countries have really big problems and that's why the all right.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Is that guy? That guy is annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But that's why they're rising in some of these countries
because people people actually don't want to be mowed down
by maniacs who are asylum seekers or they're being given
their life back apparently because otherwise they can't go home.
They don't want to be mowed down in a Christmas market,
and they don't want women to be gang raped in
the public square on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's okay that.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
They're allowed to not want that, yes, And also cultures
aren't all equal like cultures inside. I think this is
my basement time in Afghanis. Afghanistan is an inferior culture
to the United States in every respect, okay, in every respect,
and it's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,
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which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,
is not right. It's a legacy news organization that has
decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which
is actually the antithesis.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Of what news media should be doing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and
the culture of Germany is better than the culture of
many of the people coming in from foreign countries. And
they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to
Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which
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you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And now the low t technocrats in the EU who
have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on
these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're
trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,
for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police
and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things
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from the population, because the people who are in charge
are the people who said, if you oppose this, you're
a bad person. And now these populations you're seeing it.
By the way, can you see I mean the parallels
are different. I mean, rather the specifics are different in
this country, but there are parallels with I want no
m s thirteen illegal aliens in this country or trend
to iraqua illegal aliens in this country. I want none,
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and if they're here, they need to go right away.
Democrats say, no, what do you mean? You know this
is America's a nation of immigrants, were a nation of illegal,
bloodthirsty gang members. Like really, I mean, we can't get
we can't all agree, even Clay that we should get
rid of them. The answer with Democrats still is no,
they can't agree with us on that. They still have
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some problem with this. You're seeing these these low t technocrats,
so called technocrats, mostly the idiots in the EU and
in this country in the Democrat Party have a big
problem on their hands because too much now has been seen,
people have experienced too much of Oh, just bring in
everybody from the poorest, most dysfunctional, violent cultures you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And this is also what they're trying to do in
the United States. When it comes to our speech, you
aren't allowed to ask questions about where COVID came from.
You weren't allowed and still aren't in many ways allowed
to actually analyze crime in the United States right Who
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commits crime, where is it being committed? What can we
do to restrict it? How many people out there will
even talk about where violent comes from? Violent crime comes
from the United States. And the significance here is if
we don't honestly address issues, if we don't allow everyone
to honestly address the issues, then we can't make anything better.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know, when you restrict what.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Citizens are able to say, you actually end up. I
think this is one hundred billion percent true, with a
worse public policy outcome because you don't get the full
flourishing of debate. But man, I think what JD. Vance
said and what CBS News showed of itself is indicative
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We haven't played a clip of our good friends at
the View for a while, and I saw this circulating
this morning. Our brilliant friend Whoopee Goldberg has decided that
Elon Musk is too involved in sending spaceships to space.
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And why do we need SpaceX because we already have NASA.
So I want to play this for you in a moment.
This is her argument, Buck, why do we need SpaceX
we already have NASA? Willo Pee Goldberg to her audience,
And it's worth noting. Late last night Elon Musk debuted
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a new AI XAI, which is reportedly now the best
AI on the market. Now, I'm not going to tell
you that I am able to analyze in a sophisticated
manner comparable AIS, but the polymarket service allows wagers on
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what is the most powerful AI, and after XAI debuted,
it is now off the charts odds wise considered to
be the best AI on the market. This is Grock
three point zero. And I realized that I might as
well be speaking Arabic to many of you out there.
But the reason why I bring it up is Elon
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is better at sending spaceships to space than NASA. He
is better at making electric vehicles than anyone has ever
been in the history of the world. He is probably
better at drilling holes in the Earth through the Boring Company,
and right now, Buck, he also is simultaneously sleeping in
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an office in the Eisenhower Old Executive Office Building. My understanding,
trying to save all of us hundreds of billions of
dollars in fraudulent and wasteful spending. I'm not sure that
we have ever seen anyone of this magnitude of achievement in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Any of our lives.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And I'm regardless of what political beliefs Elon had. And remember,
he was a darling of the left what five years ago? Buck,
I mean, everybody on the left loved him because he
made electric vehicles. And he didn't endorse Trump until July.
So he's a relatively newbie when it comes to supporting Trump.
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But Whoopy Goldberg thinks, Hey, this whole SpaceX thing is unnecessary.
Why are we giving them any money from the government.
We have NASA. This was Whoopee going after Elon a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Listen, I want to know when did I say, hey,
we need another agency next to NASA. So listen, so
when did we start paying for his SAA?
Speaker 8 (18:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (18:37):
No, he you know that he's he's going to be
cutting yeah, uh NASA. Yeah, yeah, that's the competition. So
what is the real deal here, None, we want to
cut some money.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Let's cut some of these follow money.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
With that follow money, we have to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Paying for everything he sends up that comes back down,
the all back down and breaks out.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's out of our pockets.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Me right, bap, Okay, I mean she's not she's not smart. Okay,
that's that's clear. She is a comedian to be fair,
but yes, right, I mean you know, but I mean
she has she's not smart on these issues, has no idea.
She's no idea what she's talking about, absolutely none. And
Elon Musk is trying to do something that everybody should
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be in favor of. This is the problem Democrats keep
running into. If in fact, there are billions of dollars
going to dead people on social you know, for social
scurity payments whatever. There's all these different things. There's no
pro light American money on fire constituency. But Democrats, because
they have to be anti Trump and therefore anti Elon,
keep putting themselves in this position where they're they're complaining
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that they're now saying, you see this clay they have.
I mean, I was gonna talking about this next hour
talking about it now they had. The acting head of
Social Security Administration has resigned because she didn't want to
give Doge access to personal information. The President has told
this guy, I want you to have access to executive
branch information. And these people who are running these systems
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that are clearly in need of a massive overhaul, think
they can decide younilaterally that the presidents will on this
issue doesn't matter. Well, what do they think is going
to happen. He's the literal richest man in the world.
He's not going to steal your social Security number and
sell it on the dark web. What are these idiots
even saying, Clay It makes this whole you know, we
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have to protect privacy of these people.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He's even pointed out he ran he was a founder
of PayPal, which had everyone's name, credit card, bank information, whatever.
Somebody has access to this stuff. The we don't trust
Elon Musk. We only trust the bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
This is the dumbest argument that I've heard in a
long time about anything government related.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's all they have right now. And it also I
think makes anybody paying attention realize Democrats, for some reason
want to protect this stuff. They actually don't want this stuff.
There are a lot of Democrats that don't want this
stuff to stop. I So let's go to SpaceX for
a moment. NASA is so incompetent. Right now, Buck and
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our team can confirm that this is still true, that
we don't have the ability to bring our astronauts back
from space. Yes, right now we have two a man
and a woman American astronauts that I believe we're supposed
to go to space for like two weeks. This sounds
like a worse nightmare. And now they've been there for
like six months, and we don't have the technology to
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get them back and we're asking Elon Musk and SpaceX
to do it instead.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
SpaceX.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more
efficient at sending rockets to space than NASA is.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're actually saving us money and doing.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It at a fraction of the cost that the taxpayer
would otherwise be paying for.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It's it's even bigger than that in a sense, Clay,
because Elon has started a space economy. There is now
a space economy, because he has commercialized sending satellites into
space for governments that need his help, for private industry,
his whole the you know, starlink. Starlink has for the
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first time made it feasible that we could have global
wherever you are as long as you can see the sky,
you could have theoretically high speed internet access. The scale
of that business, and by the way, what it will
do to all these providers that are still charging way
too much money for you know, crappy service. Don't even
get me started. I'm always worried that it's going to
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go out when I'm doing the show. Clay, He's created
a space economy where one did not exist before. He
has rockets that can be caught on re entry by
a giant mechanical hand. Basically, I mean, this is wizardry
level stuff, but it comes from brilliance, industry and competition,
and that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And what's funny about this is the old argument always, oh,
you don't want the government to do it, who's gonna
build the roads? Well, now people look at this and
they're like, he's better at space, rock at space and
rockets than NASA. So what else could be done that
the government actually does not need to be doing? And
I think this is a broader philosophical challenge to the
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left right now, which is what exactly are what exactly
is government in a lot of these cases bringing to
the table.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
There are very few things that we could all agree on.
The government should be doing. There are a lot of
things now that I think people are asking understandably, why is.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The government even doing that?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I mean, yes, people get upset about the prospect of
DOGE cutting the Department of Education. Nobody who complains about
this knows what DOE even does. They don't even know
what about our schools. The proper education doesn't fund your
local public school. You imbeciles, right, I mean, people who
are saying this stuff know nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yes, it's true, and that's why I have said. And
Elon actually liked my tweet saying this. I happened to
see it. I said, look what Elon offered. You got
paid until through September. If you had industry, if you
had supreme talent, you would want to get paid and
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go find something new to do.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Most people don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, I'm telling you, yes, this is because I come
I come from the beast. I understand. I've been inside
the system. There's nothing, there's no appeal like the forever job.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
To a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
The forever job is is. You cannot beat that in
many people's minds. I have such a different mindset.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you told me that I had to have a
job where I got a four percent raise forever, but
I could never be fired. That sounds like the most
miserable existence on the planet to me. I understand some
people but like that they want the security. But but
you you moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you
started your own company. You you went on and talked
about boobs like you know, you're like, you're not the
(25:10):
average cat. I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance
than most people, but I just I would I would
go insane if you told me, hey, you're a government employee,
you make three and a half percent more for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Like I could not know, But I'm telling you there
there are so many people the same way, Clay that
you know cults. One of the reasons cults appeal to
people so much is because there are people who really
want to be told what to do. Yeah, it's there's
a freedom to that, right, there's all tell me I'll
do it. Give yourself over completely to that, absolutely, And
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and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service mindset of
once you're in the Clay. When I told I left,
I mean, it's kind of complicated because I was at
the Intellience Division, but I was still I was a CIA,
So I had to quit Intel Division and quit the CIA,
you know I did. But when I told the CI
that I was leaving to go work for Glenn Beck
at the Blaze, you know, when he started the Blaze.
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This was at the founding of the Blaze dot com
and Glenn's network and everything else, which obviously he's done
great with. They thought I was insane. They were just like,
what are you. They're like, you're leaving that You're leaving
a cool job and a guaranteed six figures for the
next you know, twenty five years and great health care
benefits to go work at some startup you could be
fired at. I fired from in six months, and I
was like, yes, but we're not the average catman. It's
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certainly not the average civil servant. That's the That's the point.
A lot of them. They want to just stay with
that security forever, and so the the notion that that
could be taken away if they're saying there are there
are shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,
just the idea that it could be cut.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Their whole quarter percentage.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Do you think of federal employees could go and the
average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.
Leave aside the media out Honest to god, I would
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be worried about the functions
of the federal government. Again, we're excluding military here, Okay, yes,
I know if we had one hundred thousand person army
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like China would invade. We're excluding the military because I
got some people who like, well, I work, military is
its own thing. It's a separate We're talking federal civil service,
like bureaucrats eighty percent, I wouldn't be worried. Take eighty Yeah,
I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,
and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,
I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to
(27:28):
try to flag down a civil servant when you have
when you have a need of them, you know, try
to get through one of these agencies. Somehow there's nothing
but people working there and no one seems to do anything. Yeah,
I think certainly half. I would be stunned if you
couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea. And
Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability while
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firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about I mean,
think about how much just complete waste there was inside
of Twitter, and why would the federal government not be
far worse than that?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But again, I think what you're getting at when you
lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success
of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,
which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns
out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,
the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat
(28:26):
not just to the system, but to this sense of
intelligence and sense of security with the way things are
that so many people of the left have, like they
never want to admit that. It turns out the government
is this splerotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.
So it's very hard to get them to see what's
(28:50):
really because the more successful this is, the stronger the
arguments become for why can't we make all aspects of
the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's
more efficient and accountable? There's no good answers to that,
of course, other than it is what it is. Well,
that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to
not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,
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it is deep, it is smelly, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Rough, and there's an entire cottage industry. Sixty minutes we
played you the raid. Sixty Minutes also had remember they
had the the anonymous federal employee like talking about, Oh
my goodness, what's gonna happen without this huge federal infrastructure.
They're doing all of that work as well. I think
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they were a contractor, by the way. I think that
came out afterwards that that was a USA contractor, not
even a full time employee. But I'll go back and
check on that one.
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to take a moment here, Clay. I'm sure you saw it.
These uh, these videos of the Toronto of the plane crash,
the Delta crowdy. Now, it's one of these crashes where
you could say, everybody walked out of this plane. There's
some some injuries, eighteen injuries, but nobody. We have the
(31:48):
centator right now. Oh okay, Well, I'll come back and talk.
I want to get into the analysis of the Delta
plane crash. I've been texting my pilot, friends and family
all morning about it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Center of cotton. Appreciate Thank you being with us, sir.
I know you got a new book out, Seven Things
you Can't Say about China. Why don't we start with that?
Actually before we got a lot of things to run
through with you today. But what are some things you
can't say about Why can't we just say whatever we
want about China. This is in Germany. They're not knocking
down doors for means yet.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Thanks guys for having me on to talk about seven
things you Can't Say about China. I focused in the
book's title on the censorship aspect of it, because it
highlights the pervasive influence and leverage that China has throughout America.
You know, you might recall five years ago, I think
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five years ago this week in The Winner of twenty twenty,
that I first said the Wuhan coronavirus probably came from
that super lab in Wuhan, not from the food market.
I expected Chinese communist officials to condemn me for that
and say that it was false. But if you recall,
it was also piled on by lots of the American
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elites Washington Posts, CNN, The New York Times, and others,
in part because so many American elites are met ready
to man the ramparts on behalf of communist China. So
the seven things you can't say, and I go through
each one of these chapter by chapter, is that China
is an evil empire. China's preparing for war, China is
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waging in economic world war. China has infiltrated our society,
China has infiltrated our government. China is coming for our kids,
and China could win. It's that economic world war that
has really got China to the point of power and influence.
Of course, one it underwrites the massive military build up,
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the largest in history, that allows China prepare for war,
but it also gives them vast influence in American society
and business, education and cultural institutions in our governments as well.
A simple and maybe well known example is Hollywood. When
was the last time you saw a Chinese villain in
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a Hollywood movie? It's been a very long time, because
when Brad Pitt made Seven Years in Tibet in nineteen
ninety seven, China came down on him in the studio
like a ton of bricks, and studio executives knew from
that point forward you can't say anything bad about China,
otherwise they'll cut off access to the lucrative and massive
(34:29):
Chinese movie market. But guys, did you know? Because I
think a lot of Americans don't know that every network
except for Fox News is owned by or affiliated with
one of those Hollywood studios. ABC and Disney, CBS and
Paramount NBC and MSNBC by Comcast, Universal, CNN by Warner Brothers.
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Is a surprise those networks host a presidential debate and
don't ask a single question about China that Fox News
is consistently the network that is strongest on China, the
most clear eyed about the breathday post. I don't think
it is. And that's replicated across so many segments of
our society, whether it's corporate America, Wall Street, professional sports,
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higher education, all designed to protect China as it goes
forward with its campaign to replace America as the world's
dominant military and economic superpower.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I love everything you just laid out, and it is fascinating.
I never really thought about the overlap between the news
business and the Hollywood studios where I came from. Senator Cotton,
you may well remember world of sports. I've never seen
anything like the NBA's bending of the need to China.
They would rip American institutions to the high heavens. It's
(35:46):
actually how they've destroyed, in my opinion, much of their brand.
People love basketball. They don't like being lectured by multimillionaire
athletes about how awful America is while they simultaneously bend
the need to China. I saw recent reports that the
NBA may be about to go back to China.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What does that impact?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And I don't know how much you talk about it
in the book, but I think it's incredibly impactful what
they have allowed the NBA to do, which is rip
America to shreds while saying nothing at all critical of
China because they're afraid of what China will do to them.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Yeah, I write about it some links. Again, I think
it's important that Americans know that, you know, it's not
just you know, Chinese spies in Washington who are trying
to steal intelligence or military secrets. The threat again is
pervasive and present throughout all of our lives. And I
write about professional sports and specifically the NBA because the
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NBA is the most popular American sport in China, and
China is the NBA's largest overseas market. And if you're
called back in twenty nineteen, before China finally crack down
once and for all of Hong Kong and violated its
promises to Hong Kongers have freedom and autonomy for fifty
years after Great Britain handed Hong Kong over. In nineteen
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ninety seven, the general manager at the Houston Rockets posted
on social media nothing more than just an image saying
that we should stand with Hong Kong and China came
down like a ton of bricks on the NBA and
on the Rockets in particular. They pulled NBA games off
of their streaming services and state television. They suspended streaming
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for the Rockets in particular, they stopped selling Rockets merchandise
in their stores. They suspended cooperation with the Rockets, and
where was the NBA as an institution nowhere to be found.
The team didn't support them, the league didn't support them.
Social justice warriors Lebron James and Stephen Kerr, who are
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bound for the Hall of Fame, also didn't support them.
In fact, they condemned them. He's misinformed or that he
needed to be educated on the situation. Maybe I think
what Lebron James mett is that he needed to be
re educated along the lines of what China would do. ESPN,
who is not only the broadcast partner of the NBA,
but also again a corporate ability of Disney that has
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massive operations in China, didn't even cover the situation. But
China still wasn't vacated. They demanded that Maury be fired.
Adam Silver said not, but strangely enough, within a year
he was out of a job and the Rockets were
back on TV in China, And that's not the only example.
(38:38):
The Brooklyn Nets CEO who came to his defense, one
of the few figures in the world of professional basketball
who came to his defense quote unquote, resigned after just
two months on the job, and guests who owns the
Brooklyn Nets Josie who is one of the founders of
the Chinese real retail giant Ali Baba and is a
(39:00):
frequent apologist for the Chinese Communist Party. Of course, that's
not the only case too, involving the NBA. Remember our
friend Nus Cancer Freedom. Yes, had a long time been
a voice on behalf of ordinary Turkish people who were
suffering under their own repressive government. Began to take up
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because of the weaker people, a religious and ethnic minority
in northwest China that Bote, the Trump and the Biden
administration said were suffering from a genocide. Two million, maybe
three million had gone into re education camps and indoctrination
and simply wore shoes that criticized Jijen pain or called
(39:44):
out the plight of the Wigers, or he stood up
for Tibet, something that liberals in Hollywood have long done.
And what happened. He was cut not too soon after
from the NBA, and he's told me, and I believe him,
that he feels that he was blacklisted by the NBA.
This is just an example again of the pervasive influence
that China has in our country and in our society,
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and it goes far beyond economic titles. Well, every cultural
institution in America faces this. You know, you've probably heard
of sister city programs that you know, American city's partner
with foreign cities. And that's fine if your foreign city
is you know, I don't know, in Spain or South
Korea or something, but in China comes with strings, and
the strings are they want to turn you into a
(40:30):
day facto lobbyist on behalf of communist China, not just
related to your particular city, Like, oh, you know, call
your congressman so you can get a visa to come
travel to your sister city in China. No, No, tell
your congressman that he should stop speaking out about Hong Kong. Ar.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
We're speaking to Senator Tom Cotton. He's got a new book.
He's got a new book out today, Seven things you
Can't say about China. Can go get your copy Center
of Cotton. You've you've been getting some headlines on the
Hill and some other places. Charlie Kirk tweeted out something
about how or I guess we call posting it all
on X You've got some concerns. This is the first
that I've heard you've had concerns about any of the
(41:06):
Trump nominees. But it has to do with what we're
talking about a bit, because it would be the under
Secretary of Defense for policy at the Pentagon, Bridge Colby,
I know you've addressed this a little bit, but I'm
just wondering if you could for all of us address
Is this just you want to hear more from Bridge
about where he stands now on some issues and what
can you tell us about this reporting that you have
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some real reservations about a very senior level Trump Pentagon appointee.
Full disclosure, I've known Bridge for twenty years, so I
might be able to help fill in some gaps of
my own here, But go.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Ahead, sure, Well, with any nominee, but especially nominees in
critical national security roles at Defense or State or the
Intelligence Committee, we always want to probe their views and
see if those are aligned with the president. The president's priorities.
Of course, one of the President's highest priorities in one
of mine's at the very first day I got into
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the Senate is torn from acquiring nuclear weapons. You know,
when I came to the Senate, President Obama was in
the final days of negotiating the nuclear deal with the
Ran And in fact, that was the first time I
ever spoke to Donald Trump. He was a new candidate,
and he called me and I wanted to express his
thanks and admiration for the work I was doing fighting
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against that deal and fighting against a nuclear run. So
with all these nominees, if they play any role and
trying to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, I
and other senators are going to want to have questions
and our meetings with them and our hearings with them
to ensure they're aligned with the president's priorities. That's not
out of the ordinary. That's pretty customary. If you look
at the stuff that's gone on over the last two
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or three weeks, guys, you can see, for instance, that
Bobby Kennedy, who had been pro choice his entire life,
where I met with him, and then when you testify
that the committee said that he would support President Trump's
pro life policies, so you have a.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Not to go.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's sorry, we're going to come in to break it
sounds like you have questions for Bridge. I mean, I
know he he's very aligned, I think with you on China,
for example, which is what the book is about. I
think you could say he's a China Hawk for sure.
But on the Iranian issue you have questions. But if
the answers to those questions are satisfactory in line with
President Trump and with his agenda for national security in
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the Middle East and beyond, you don't have a problem
with the credentials or the background or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
I look forward to speaking to him about you know,
what he's written about Iran in the past, where he thinks,
now how he sees that fitting in with President Trump's
declared priority of stopping a run from getting nuclear weapons again.
It's a common part of the process that we did
with Bobby Kennedy that we did.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
How do you how do you?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I mean you served by the way, how do you
think Secretary Headsets? Just real quick, I wanted to know
what do you think about Secretary Hegsets. So far, Clay
and I have been having fun talking about just some
of the visuals.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a refreshing change
to have a secretary who's a little bit closer to
our age and therefore closer to the soldier's age, who
was himself of that. And we've had very fine secretaries
of Defense who are in their sixties or seventies. But
it obviously offers a different perspective. And I think he's
already taken some steps to change some policies that were
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implemented in the Biden era that were foolish, that diminished readiness,
that focused our troops on trivialities or distractions as opposed
to being ready to fight and win our nation's wars
and therefore preventing them from happening in the first place.
Now he's got longer term challenges that are going to
take years for all of us to tackle, like rebuilding
our industrial capacity, making sure that we have the kind
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of next generation fighters that can counteract China, that our
ship buildings in a place where we encounter at China
as well. But on the things that he can do
on the first days in the job, I think he's
off to a good start. For instance, getting the army
and the Marine Corps and the Air Force and the
Navy focused back on fighting our nation's wars, not social
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engineering or not making sure they're using the right pronouns
or using addressing climate change in the way they train
and so forth.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We're trying, as you know, to get a cease fire
and a resolution in Ukraine with Russia, and we just
had Marco Rubio talking with the Russians face to face
for the first time in years in Saudi Arabia. I'm
curious what you think about those conversations. And in particular,
there has been a discussion that one of the demands
(45:25):
might be an election in Ukraine, which Zelenski has not
allowed since the invasion happened. Should there be a Ukrainian election,
should it be connected to the idea of a ceasefire
in peace? How would you assess where we are right now?
Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (45:41):
I mean, guys, I think Joe Biden left us all
a mess. That's the bottom line. Joe Biden's weakness tempted
Putin to invade in the first place. Biden pussy footed
around for three years, and I think in retrospect it's
clear that his plan was to lose. Just wait till
after the election, and that's what President and all of
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us have to deal with right now. And I think
what he wants to what the President's trying to achieve
is what Javan said in Europe last week, Ukraine's sovereign
independence and preventing a third invasion of Ukraine in the future.
So to do that, we need to have a lasting
truce that will allow Ukraine to get back on its feet,
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as you say, to have elections again, to have long
term prosperity. I think that's an important point as well.
You know, Lindsay Graham has floated the idea of having
a long term minerals deal with Ukraine that would give them,
you know, one pillar of long term economic growth, also
giving us what we need, which is more independence from
China to acquire the kind of rare earth minerals that
are necessary in a modern electronic economy. Now, is this
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going to be something that everyone is satisfied with? Is
this what one might have hoped for, you know, a
year or two, three years ago? Probably not, But it's
what Joe Biden has left us with. And we've got
to do the very best we can to try to
get that durable truth that protects Ukraine's sovereign independence and
doesn't lead to a third invasion of Ukraine as we've
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had the first and second invasion under the last two
Democratic presidents.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
The book is Seven Things you Can't Say About China.
Go check it out, Senator Tom Cotton. We appreciate the time.
Look forward to talking to you again sometime soon. Enjoy
the book tour. Thank you again. The book Seven Things
you Can't Say about China. That was Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton.
Go check it out. Look, we've been talking about the
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Speaker 1 (48:33):
You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Might be a senator, might be a president, might be
a governor, might be a discussion about whether the Egyptians
really built the pyramids or not. Buck, My confusion between
Yetti's bigfoots abominable Snowman's has provoked great disturbance in the
Clay and Buck force. Don't leave Sasquatch off the list,
(48:56):
Sir Sasquatches as well. But I said, conspiracy theory. I
just don't buy that Egypt and the Egyptians, with their
modern technology at that time, built all the pyramids and
there's not something else going on that we don't know about.
But as I said, would likely be the case. Eric
(49:20):
in Milwaukee has called in. He is an ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. Explain Eric, how you become a ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. But this is just evidence of what we
talk about, Buck, Whatever topic we discuss, there is someone
who is an expert out there listening.
Speaker 9 (49:44):
Well, lots of school, to put it briefly, all.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Right, so how disgusted? Eric asked him a question before
you get to the pyramid thing.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'm just curious, have you ever been at a at
a tomb of one of these pharaohs and had a
little voice the back of your head like, I hope
there's not some weird curse here or does that never
cross your mind?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
No, but it reminds me of that Time Life book
series commercial where the guy put took metal, made it
into the shape of an ancient symbol and pointed it
at stone engs and then he felt the energy go
to his body.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Oh okay, cool, all right, Clay, you had a real
question about the Pyramids now commercial.
Speaker 9 (50:23):
That's a joke. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
So when you hear someone like me say, I just
don't buy it. I don't buy that they had the technology.
I think something else is going on here. First of all,
you probably hear it a decent amount because there's lots
of people who are morons like me. But your reaction
is what and you feel that we should know what
so that we are better informed.
Speaker 9 (50:48):
Well, so, as far as the archaeological evidence around the
Great Pyramids, they've excavated the remains of curs in ramps.
The quarries are nearby, some of them which with partially
quarried stone still in place, as well as they've excavated
the breweries, the bakeries for the workers, the barracks where
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they lived. They've also recently, just in the last few years,
found some papyri the actually the most ancient inscribed pyrie
in existence near the Red Sea, that are bureaucratic documents
describing a lot of background on worker groups. You know,
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it wasn't the slaves that built the Great Pyramids. It
was people from various villages around ancient Egypt that worked
as corvet labor and came during opportune times of the
year where they didn't have response agricultural responsibilities and came
and worked and sometimes even left graffiti how they were
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proud that they had built this particular part of the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
So you have zero doubt of that the Egyptians built
the pyramid using their modern technology at the time. Ramps
circling the pyramids. Is there anything you believe that would
be considered controversial in the Eastern European sorry, in the
archaeological universe, in which you.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Are an expert.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
In other words, Buck asked me, did I believe in conspiracies?
And I'm just I'm skeptical about the pyramids. Is there
anything that you believe that would be considered controversial in
your chosen field? Or are there any conspiracies in other
fields that you believe in? Or as a man of
rigor science and archaeology, do you believe in nothing like that.
Speaker 9 (52:50):
Usually the controversies are surrounding like there's a very ancient
temple that's been ex civated in Turkey. Uh, I'm going
to probably mess up the name, but it's a go
bleaky tet bay. And the debates are when when it predates, like, uh,
(53:11):
the invention of writing, and there's only like symbols and
various stone shapes and things to deal with before we're writing.
That's when you get into a lot of the more
like controversial theories and people really debating about the meaning
of certain temples are and things like that, and that
that comes that comes out in articles and in conferences
(53:33):
where people yell at each other and things like that.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
So do you have any conspiracy theories? Is there anything
you believe in that you think is controversial? In the
larger world like Blackness Monster, Bigfoot, any of this stuff.
Speaker 9 (53:47):
Well, I've always found the Lockness Monster kind of intriguing.
I don't. I've been to Scotland, but not that far
north that I've seen the locks, so I can't say
for myself. But I did have that Time Life book
series as a kid, Mysteries of the Unknown, So there
we go.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
I had that. What about curses? Do you buy into
the concept of Buck asked you, But like, do you
think there's anything to the idea of a curse in
any way?
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Tut? Wasn't there a King Tut curse when they went
into his tomb?
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And then people?
Speaker 2 (54:21):
And was it Howard Carter who found it? Like there's
all these different things. Do you buy into the concept
of a curse?
Speaker 9 (54:28):
Well, I know they they wrote them down, yes, As
to whether they were effective or not, I mean then
you have to then that gets into believing whether the
ancient Egyptian gods will actually had power and existed. So no,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
All righty sir, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
Appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
And it's so fun that we have so many brilliant
and varied experts in the in this audience, Clay, I
just want to point something out because I love when
I get to just, you know, dogpile on you with
the audience if you get something wrong. But I'm also here.
I'm a man of honor, and I'm here to tell
you that you are correct that the Himalayan creature is
(55:09):
referred to as as Yeti and sasquatch. This is according
to Google AI. So argue with Google AI. The abominable snowman. Okay, well,
abominable snowman is here, YETI is Himalayan. It's not all
the same though, as the point, you were right about.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
That, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
I'm getting abominable snowman. I cannot believe we're talking about this, guys.
I promise tomorrow I'll get back to saving the republic.
Abominable snowman is for here, Bigfoot obviously here, Sasquatch here.
There's apparently, in Florida folklore. As a Floridian, I like
to learn about my state something called the skunk Ape.
(55:46):
According to AI, I'd never even heard of this before.
There is something I can't even read it on the
air because it's spelled fo uk monster in West Virginia.
Have you ever heard of this? I don't know how
even say that. I don't want to try to say
it on the ido sounds it's like something I shouldn't say.
And then anyway, there's lots of variations of this, but
cultures all over the world have names for this version
(56:09):
of what we would call what there's.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
A good question that it is like just a fun
topic if you need a dinner table conversation. What is
the last truly shocking discovery that has occurred in America
or in the world that Epstein's suicide?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I don't know, Well, how shocking? How shocking do we
have to go?
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, I mean like something that was earth shattering?
Speaker 1 (56:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (56:38):
For instance, there's this report that there is a three
percent chance, sorry everybody, that an asteroid's gonna hit Earth
in twenty thirty two, Right, I would say that an
asteroid striking Earth. Now you can say, COVID whatever. What
is the last truly earth shattering discovery? In some way?
(57:01):
In like I can't think of anything.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
In my mind.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Like obviously, like we all have phones and we can
walk around that. In nineteen sixty if you'd been like, hey,
you're gonna have the entire world's history in the palm
of your hand, and you'll be able to access any
information like that would have been fairly remarkable. But I
think people could have predicted it right. It wasn't crazy,
like what is the last thing that happened where you
(57:27):
were like, holy crap, I can't believe we now know
this and we didn't know this before.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
I I'm probably stepping into it here because I'm not
as up on this as I should be. But I
do think that there's you know, you know who was
talking about it recently was Mel Gibson actually, and I
was listening to mel Gibson to discuss it the shroud
of Turin and how it is from with radiocarbon dating,
it is from the period of Jesus, and that is.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
The newest report.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
I'm not an expert, you know, I'm not when I
say expert, like, I'm not even up on all the details.
But I do know that there was a little bit
of a whoa, this is actually from the right time
period for this to have been a real artifact. I
think that whole story is I thought it was cool
I read all about that.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
I mean, I have a lot of interest in ancient history.
For instance, they just found the oldest structure in London
that the Romans built, right underneath a thirty story building
that they're building. I just came back from Israel, where
you know, anybody who actually travels to the Middle East
or Europe or certainly Italy or you recognize how fragile
(58:40):
and young our country is. But when you're looking at
walls that are thousands and thousands of years old that
were built in biblical times and pre biblical recorded history,
I just I'm trying to think, like, what was the
last earth shattering discovery that was made that changed the
way that people can sieve of the world around them
(59:02):
and have You can tweet me because there may be
some great answers. I can't think of any, right, I mean,
there are things that we do that are remarkable, like
again the phone and the information all being in the
palm of our hands. But I mean something we discovered
and people were in display. For instance, you know back
in the fifteen hundreds, it would have been kind of
(59:24):
remarkable when people started saying, hey, you know, there's a.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Whole new world.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
If you just get on the ocean and you keep
going far enough, you come to a new land and
no one has ever really been there before, and it's
a truly new world. What is the last thing that
was at an earth shattering discovery? I can't even think
of one.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Well, we'll put it out there for everybody.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I know probably
a lot of you had a long weekend. We were
here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you
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can enjoy Iheart's actual news that does not have a
crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,
there are still a lot of crazy slants that are
coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about
(00:49):
this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it
because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this
is where we are. That on Sunday, CBS News could say, hey,
the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,
and then later in the day they could go have
(01:11):
a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they
praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared
a meme that the government authorities decided they did not like.
And I understand some of you are not active on
social media. For people who don't know, a meme, which
(01:35):
is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,
the more typically you are into memes is often just
a humorous take on something in the world of current events,
a picture, an image, a quick video. It's a joke.
And now they have decided that if jokes are considered
(01:57):
to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government
should conduct a raid and you can be arrested for
a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may
have posted online and so and so, let's actually listen,
(02:19):
because we didn't play this cut yesterday. Let's actually listen
to what it sounds like live on sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
This aired in America.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to
have the German police joined on this raid.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
This is cut eleven.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's six oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we
were with state police as they raided this apartment in
northwest Germany just to put inside inside. Six armed officers
searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.
Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit
(03:04):
a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online. At
the exact same time, across Germany, more than fifty similar
raids played out, part of what prosecutors say is a
coordinated effort to curb online hate speech in Germany.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think
it's important for you all to understand, because this is
what the left would do in this country if they
could a pre dawn raid of an apartment of a
German citizen because somebody in the government decided that they
(03:47):
had shared a racist meme. One of fifty simultaneous raids,
six with a camera crew in tow, six different government
agents going into an apartment and see using a laptop
and a phone. This is this is this is crazy, Buck,
This is true across Europe, and it is also a
(04:09):
mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it
is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish
they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they
did for a while. During COVID they got they got
really close to this. I mean when they were shutting
down bars and arresting bar owners because they weren't enforcing
masking policy enough like morons, you know, meaning you're a
(04:33):
moron if you think that a mask policy in a
bar had anything to do with stopping COVID. This is
the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a
society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few
things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,
this is always wait, actually I would step back for
a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,
(04:54):
and cover it objective, you know, objectively, just meaning, hey,
this is what's going on.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
This should be like peta going to a dog fighting ring,
Like this should be the most heinous thing. If you're
actually a journalist and somebody who makes a living in
the exchange of ideas and information as an American, you're
supposed to think the First Amendment is sacred.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
For journalists to go and.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Be like, oh wow, look at this, look at the
Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows you
what a fraud I mean this is journalists are frauds
in this country. So we know the whole thing, and honestly,
it's not about oh, there are some good ones and
bad ones. Everyone has opinions, everyone's pushing agendas. They either
tell you the truth about what they think or they're
just lying to you, and CBS is just continuing to
lie to you.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering
on this, and I know I'm getting to be an
old man because as I age, I am seeing it
more and more and certainly running a business. No one
at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at
at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.
(05:59):
Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we
have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,
should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities
rating in the early morning hours a random person's house
(06:19):
over a joke that they posted on laws.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
But this is why they're telling on themselves, and they
agree with this. This is the CBS is covering the
German meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking,
if only we could do this, we could have our
DEI back, and our affirmative action back, and our left
wing trans policies back, and our go down the list.
If only we could suppress speech the way they do
(06:44):
in Germany, we would be a better society. This also
leads to the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads
to the Holocaust, which is directly connected. Of course, it's
all the same mentality. So what we're showing you in
Germany or what we're talking about happening in Europe right now,
UK and other places. Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's
stock crime, straight up thought crime. There's no other way.
(07:05):
It's what were you thinking when you were standing in
that place? Here's what I was thinking. You're under arrest.
This is something that the that the left has tried
to import here. I think if Donald Trump had lost
this election, they would have kept pushing and gotten even
closer to it, because remember Trump had lost, they would
have I mean, they would have been trying to lock
Trump up. I mean all the things we know, all
(07:26):
the things that would have happened. And a big, another
big part of this, specifically in the European context, clay
that I think very much translates into the American context.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
What are the means? What is this stuff really about?
You know what it's about illegals coming into their or I.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Shouldn't even say illegals. In their case, they're legal. Actually
they're migrants to the government has allowed in Muslim migrants,
particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a number of war toward countries
coming into their countries, committing terrorist acts, raping women, sexually
assaulting women in packs, in numbers that these European countries
haven't ever seen before, Meaning they're dealing with these spikes
(08:02):
in crime.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean, you don't have to we have we'll play
it later. The CEO of.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say, you want
to get it right now. I think let's do it
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Let's go. Here's this, here's Alex karp Off Palenteer. It's
about a minute clip.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I really want you to listen to it, because this
is what the meme wars, and they're trying to shut
it down in Europe is actually all.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
About play it.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
You lived in Germany for half your life, yea, And
there is a big debate going on about the politics
in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is
support and you've even seen it over the weekend. Marco
Rubio and Elon Musk and others have been very supportive
of the Alt right movement in Germany.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
While there have been questions about their.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Association with some supporting Nazis and other things, I'm curious
where you land on that.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
I don't want to go into the technical wits here,
but the real the problem in Germany is that somehow
the small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk
about migration without being a bigot, which is about probably
fifteen ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties,
have somehow tricked the larger parties into saying they will
(09:12):
only vote for things if the far right doesn't vote
with them, which basically, as a matter pragmatic power, shifts
all immigration policy to a small group of people that
literally will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani
immigrants to Germany of a seventy x seventy x propensity
compared to German population to commit certain kind of crimes,
(09:36):
and that in the last couple of weeks, every single
terror attack, every single tarror attack, has been the result.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get
into trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
That's that's what all this is about. By the way,
Europeans who are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if
we didn't have the Muslim migrants we've taken in the
last we basically would have no sexual we'd have no
rapes in this country. I mean the number of be
almost partially no terrorism and no terrorism, maybe we don't
want more of this. The governments that did this, like
(10:08):
Angela Miracle's government in Germany and these other governments that
were very much global it's very much part of this,
you know, one world government paradigm play. They sold out
their countries to this idea of we don't need borders,
we should bring in everybody from everywhere. And now these
countries have really big problems and that's why the all right.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Is that guy? That guy is annoying.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
But that's why they're rising in some of these countries
because people people actually don't want to be mowed down
by maniacs who are asylum seekers or they're being given
their life back apparently because otherwise they can't go home.
They don't want to be mowed down in a Christmas market,
and they don't want women to be gang raped in
the public square on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That's okay that.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
They're allowed to not want that, yes, And also cultures
aren't all equal like cultures inside. I think this is
my basement time in Afghanis. Afghanistan is an inferior culture
to the United States in every respect, okay, in every respect,
and it's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,
(11:11):
which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,
is not right. It's a legacy news organization that has
decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which
is actually the antithesis.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Of what news media should be doing.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and
the culture of Germany is better than the culture of
many of the people coming in from foreign countries. And
they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to
Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which
(11:49):
you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And now the low t technocrats in the EU who
have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on
these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're
trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,
for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police
and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things
(12:12):
from the population, because the people who are in charge
are the people who said, if you oppose this, you're
a bad person. And now these populations you're seeing it.
By the way, can you see I mean the parallels
are different. I mean, rather the specifics are different in
this country, but there are parallels with I want no
m s thirteen illegal aliens in this country or trend
to iraqua illegal aliens in this country. I want none,
(12:33):
and if they're here, they need to go right away.
Democrats say, no, what do you mean? You know this
is America's a nation of immigrants, were a nation of illegal,
bloodthirsty gang members. Like really, I mean, we can't get
we can't all agree, even Clay that we should get
rid of them. The answer with Democrats still is no,
they can't agree with us on that. They still have
(12:54):
some problem with this. You're seeing these these low t technocrats,
so called technocrats, mostly the idiots in the EU and
in this country in the Democrat Party have a big
problem on their hands because too much now has been seen,
people have experienced too much of Oh, just bring in
everybody from the poorest, most dysfunctional, violent cultures you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And this is also what they're trying to do in
the United States. When it comes to our speech, you
aren't allowed to ask questions about where COVID came from.
You weren't allowed and still aren't in many ways allowed
to actually analyze crime in the United States right Who
(13:38):
commits crime, where is it being committed? What can we
do to restrict it? How many people out there will
even talk about where violent comes from? Violent crime comes
from the United States. And the significance here is if
we don't honestly address issues, if we don't allow everyone
to honestly address the issues, then we can't make anything better.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know, when you restrict what.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Citizens are able to say, you actually end up. I
think this is one hundred billion percent true, with a
worse public policy outcome because you don't get the full
flourishing of debate. But man, I think what JD. Vance
said and what CBS News showed of itself is indicative
(14:22):
of the cultural battle that we are all fighting right now.
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We haven't played a clip of our good friends at
the View for a while, and I saw this circulating
this morning. Our brilliant friend Whoopee Goldberg has decided that
Elon Musk is too involved in sending spaceships to space.
(15:58):
And why do we need SpaceX because we already have NASA.
So I want to play this for you in a moment.
This is her argument, Buck, why do we need SpaceX
we already have NASA? Willo Pee Goldberg to her audience,
And it's worth noting. Late last night Elon Musk debuted
(16:20):
a new AI XAI, which is reportedly now the best
AI on the market. Now, I'm not going to tell
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(16:44):
what is the most powerful AI, and after XAI debuted,
it is now off the charts odds wise considered to
be the best AI on the market. This is Grock
three point zero. And I realized that I might as
well be speaking Arabic to many of you out there.
But the reason why I bring it up is Elon
(17:06):
is better at sending spaceships to space than NASA. He
is better at making electric vehicles than anyone has ever
been in the history of the world. He is probably
better at drilling holes in the Earth through the Boring Company,
and right now, Buck, he also is simultaneously sleeping in
(17:28):
an office in the Eisenhower Old Executive Office Building. My understanding,
trying to save all of us hundreds of billions of
dollars in fraudulent and wasteful spending. I'm not sure that
we have ever seen anyone of this magnitude of achievement in.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Any of our lives.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And I'm regardless of what political beliefs Elon had. And remember,
he was a darling of the left what five years ago? Buck,
I mean, everybody on the left loved him because he
made electric vehicles. And he didn't endorse Trump until July.
So he's a relatively newbie when it comes to supporting Trump.
(18:09):
But Whoopy Goldberg thinks, Hey, this whole SpaceX thing is unnecessary.
Why are we giving them any money from the government.
We have NASA. This was Whoopee going after Elon a
little bit earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Listen, I want to know when did I say, hey,
we need another agency next to NASA. So listen, so
when did we start paying for his SAA?
Speaker 8 (18:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (18:37):
No, he you know that he's he's going to be
cutting yeah, uh NASA. Yeah, yeah, that's the competition. So
what is the real deal here, None, we want to
cut some money.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Let's cut some of these follow money.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
With that follow money, we have to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Paying for everything he sends up that comes back down,
the all back down and breaks out.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That's out of our pockets.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Me right, bap, Okay, I mean she's not she's not smart. Okay,
that's that's clear. She is a comedian to be fair,
but yes, right, I mean you know, but I mean
she has she's not smart on these issues, has no idea.
She's no idea what she's talking about, absolutely none. And
Elon Musk is trying to do something that everybody should
(19:25):
be in favor of. This is the problem Democrats keep
running into. If in fact, there are billions of dollars
going to dead people on social you know, for social
scurity payments whatever. There's all these different things. There's no
pro light American money on fire constituency. But Democrats, because
they have to be anti Trump and therefore anti Elon,
keep putting themselves in this position where they're they're complaining
(19:49):
that they're now saying, you see this clay they have.
I mean, I was gonna talking about this next hour
talking about it now they had. The acting head of
Social Security Administration has resigned because she didn't want to
give Doge access to personal information. The President has told
this guy, I want you to have access to executive
branch information. And these people who are running these systems
(20:12):
that are clearly in need of a massive overhaul, think
they can decide younilaterally that the presidents will on this
issue doesn't matter. Well, what do they think is going
to happen. He's the literal richest man in the world.
He's not going to steal your social Security number and
sell it on the dark web. What are these idiots
even saying, Clay It makes this whole you know, we
(20:35):
have to protect privacy of these people.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
He's even pointed out he ran he was a founder
of PayPal, which had everyone's name, credit card, bank information, whatever.
Somebody has access to this stuff. The we don't trust
Elon Musk. We only trust the bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
This is the dumbest argument that I've heard in a
long time about anything government related.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
It's all they have right now. And it also I
think makes anybody paying attention realize Democrats, for some reason
want to protect this stuff. They actually don't want this stuff.
There are a lot of Democrats that don't want this
stuff to stop. I So let's go to SpaceX for
a moment. NASA is so incompetent. Right now, Buck and
(21:17):
our team can confirm that this is still true, that
we don't have the ability to bring our astronauts back
from space. Yes, right now we have two a man
and a woman American astronauts that I believe we're supposed
to go to space for like two weeks. This sounds
like a worse nightmare. And now they've been there for
like six months, and we don't have the technology to
(21:40):
get them back and we're asking Elon Musk and SpaceX
to do it instead.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
SpaceX.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more
efficient at sending rockets to space than NASA is.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're actually saving us money and doing.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It at a fraction of the cost that the taxpayer
would otherwise be paying for.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It's it's even bigger than that in a sense, Clay,
because Elon has started a space economy. There is now
a space economy, because he has commercialized sending satellites into
space for governments that need his help, for private industry,
his whole the you know, starlink. Starlink has for the
(22:29):
first time made it feasible that we could have global
wherever you are as long as you can see the sky,
you could have theoretically high speed internet access. The scale
of that business, and by the way, what it will
do to all these providers that are still charging way
too much money for you know, crappy service. Don't even
get me started. I'm always worried that it's going to
(22:50):
go out when I'm doing the show. Clay, He's created
a space economy where one did not exist before. He
has rockets that can be caught on re entry by
a giant mechanical hand. Basically, I mean, this is wizardry
level stuff, but it comes from brilliance, industry and competition,
and that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And what's funny about this is the old argument always, oh,
you don't want the government to do it, who's gonna
build the roads? Well, now people look at this and
they're like, he's better at space, rock at space and
rockets than NASA. So what else could be done that
the government actually does not need to be doing? And
I think this is a broader philosophical challenge to the
(23:32):
left right now, which is what exactly are what exactly
is government in a lot of these cases bringing to
the table.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
There are very few things that we could all agree on.
The government should be doing. There are a lot of
things now that I think people are asking understandably, why is.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The government even doing that?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I mean, yes, people get upset about the prospect of
DOGE cutting the Department of Education. Nobody who complains about
this knows what DOE even does. They don't even know
what about our schools. The proper education doesn't fund your
local public school. You imbeciles, right, I mean, people who
are saying this stuff know nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yes, it's true, and that's why I have said. And
Elon actually liked my tweet saying this. I happened to
see it. I said, look what Elon offered. You got
paid until through September. If you had industry, if you
had supreme talent, you would want to get paid and
(24:26):
go find something new to do.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Most people don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, I'm telling you, yes, this is because I come
I come from the beast. I understand. I've been inside
the system. There's nothing, there's no appeal like the forever job.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
To a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
The forever job is is. You cannot beat that in
many people's minds. I have such a different mindset.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
If you told me that I had to have a
job where I got a four percent raise forever, but
I could never be fired. That sounds like the most
miserable existence on the planet to me. I understand some
people but like that they want the security. But but
you you moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you
started your own company. You you went on and talked
about boobs like you know, you're like, you're not the
(25:10):
average cat. I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance
than most people, but I just I would I would
go insane if you told me, hey, you're a government employee,
you make three and a half percent more for the
rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Like I could not know, But I'm telling you there
there are so many people the same way, Clay that
you know cults. One of the reasons cults appeal to
people so much is because there are people who really
want to be told what to do. Yeah, it's there's
a freedom to that, right, there's all tell me I'll
do it. Give yourself over completely to that, absolutely, And
(25:46):
and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service mindset of
once you're in the Clay. When I told I left,
I mean, it's kind of complicated because I was at
the Intellience Division, but I was still I was a CIA,
So I had to quit Intel Division and quit the CIA,
you know I did. But when I told the CI
that I was leaving to go work for Glenn Beck
at the Blaze, you know, when he started the Blaze.
(26:08):
This was at the founding of the Blaze dot com
and Glenn's network and everything else, which obviously he's done
great with. They thought I was insane. They were just like,
what are you. They're like, you're leaving that You're leaving
a cool job and a guaranteed six figures for the
next you know, twenty five years and great health care
benefits to go work at some startup you could be
fired at. I fired from in six months, and I
was like, yes, but we're not the average catman. It's
(26:29):
certainly not the average civil servant. That's the That's the point.
A lot of them. They want to just stay with
that security forever, and so the the notion that that
could be taken away if they're saying there are there
are shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,
just the idea that it could be cut.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Their whole quarter percentage.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Do you think of federal employees could go and the
average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.
Leave aside the media out Honest to god, I would
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be worried about the functions
of the federal government. Again, we're excluding military here, Okay, yes,
I know if we had one hundred thousand person army
(27:06):
like China would invade. We're excluding the military because I
got some people who like, well, I work, military is
its own thing. It's a separate We're talking federal civil service,
like bureaucrats eighty percent, I wouldn't be worried. Take eighty Yeah,
I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,
and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,
I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to
(27:28):
try to flag down a civil servant when you have
when you have a need of them, you know, try
to get through one of these agencies. Somehow there's nothing
but people working there and no one seems to do anything. Yeah,
I think certainly half. I would be stunned if you
couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea. And
Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability while
(27:50):
firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about I mean,
think about how much just complete waste there was inside
of Twitter, and why would the federal government not be
far worse than that?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
But again, I think what you're getting at when you
lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success
of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,
which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns
out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,
the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat
(28:26):
not just to the system, but to this sense of
intelligence and sense of security with the way things are
that so many people of the left have, like they
never want to admit that. It turns out the government
is this splerotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.
So it's very hard to get them to see what's
(28:50):
really because the more successful this is, the stronger the
arguments become for why can't we make all aspects of
the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's
more efficient and accountable? There's no good answers to that,
of course, other than it is what it is. Well,
that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to
not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves
because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,
(29:13):
it is deep, it is smelly, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Rough, and there's an entire cottage industry. Sixty minutes we
played you the raid. Sixty Minutes also had remember they
had the the anonymous federal employee like talking about, Oh
my goodness, what's gonna happen without this huge federal infrastructure.
They're doing all of that work as well. I think
(29:35):
they were a contractor, by the way. I think that
came out afterwards that that was a USA contractor, not
even a full time employee. But I'll go back and
check on that one.
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to take a moment here, Clay. I'm sure you saw it.
These uh, these videos of the Toronto of the plane crash,
the Delta crowdy. Now, it's one of these crashes where
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some some injuries, eighteen injuries, but nobody. We have the
(31:48):
centator right now. Oh okay, Well, I'll come back and talk.
I want to get into the analysis of the Delta
plane crash. I've been texting my pilot, friends and family
all morning about it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Center of cotton. Appreciate Thank you being with us, sir.
I know you got a new book out, Seven Things
you Can't Say about China. Why don't we start with that?
Actually before we got a lot of things to run
through with you today. But what are some things you
can't say about Why can't we just say whatever we
want about China. This is in Germany. They're not knocking
down doors for means yet.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Thanks guys for having me on to talk about seven
things you Can't Say about China. I focused in the
book's title on the censorship aspect of it, because it
highlights the pervasive influence and leverage that China has throughout America.
You know, you might recall five years ago, I think
(32:40):
five years ago this week in The Winner of twenty twenty,
that I first said the Wuhan coronavirus probably came from
that super lab in Wuhan, not from the food market.
I expected Chinese communist officials to condemn me for that
and say that it was false. But if you recall,
it was also piled on by lots of the American
(33:03):
elites Washington Posts, CNN, The New York Times, and others,
in part because so many American elites are met ready
to man the ramparts on behalf of communist China. So
the seven things you can't say, and I go through
each one of these chapter by chapter, is that China
is an evil empire. China's preparing for war, China is
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waging in economic world war. China has infiltrated our society,
China has infiltrated our government. China is coming for our kids,
and China could win. It's that economic world war that
has really got China to the point of power and influence.
Of course, one it underwrites the massive military build up,
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the largest in history, that allows China prepare for war,
but it also gives them vast influence in American society
and business, education and cultural institutions in our governments as well.
A simple and maybe well known example is Hollywood. When
was the last time you saw a Chinese villain in
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a Hollywood movie? It's been a very long time, because
when Brad Pitt made Seven Years in Tibet in nineteen
ninety seven, China came down on him in the studio
like a ton of bricks, and studio executives knew from
that point forward you can't say anything bad about China,
otherwise they'll cut off access to the lucrative and massive
(34:29):
Chinese movie market. But guys, did you know? Because I
think a lot of Americans don't know that every network
except for Fox News is owned by or affiliated with
one of those Hollywood studios. ABC and Disney, CBS and
Paramount NBC and MSNBC by Comcast, Universal, CNN by Warner Brothers.
(34:52):
Is a surprise those networks host a presidential debate and
don't ask a single question about China that Fox News
is consistently the network that is strongest on China, the
most clear eyed about the breathday post. I don't think
it is. And that's replicated across so many segments of
our society, whether it's corporate America, Wall Street, professional sports,
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higher education, all designed to protect China as it goes
forward with its campaign to replace America as the world's
dominant military and economic superpower.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I love everything you just laid out, and it is fascinating.
I never really thought about the overlap between the news
business and the Hollywood studios where I came from. Senator Cotton,
you may well remember world of sports. I've never seen
anything like the NBA's bending of the need to China.
They would rip American institutions to the high heavens. It's
(35:46):
actually how they've destroyed, in my opinion, much of their brand.
People love basketball. They don't like being lectured by multimillionaire
athletes about how awful America is while they simultaneously bend
the need to China. I saw recent reports that the
NBA may be about to go back to China.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
What does that impact?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And I don't know how much you talk about it
in the book, but I think it's incredibly impactful what
they have allowed the NBA to do, which is rip
America to shreds while saying nothing at all critical of
China because they're afraid of what China will do to them.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Yeah, I write about it some links. Again, I think
it's important that Americans know that, you know, it's not
just you know, Chinese spies in Washington who are trying
to steal intelligence or military secrets. The threat again is
pervasive and present throughout all of our lives. And I
write about professional sports and specifically the NBA because the
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NBA is the most popular American sport in China, and
China is the NBA's largest overseas market. And if you're
called back in twenty nineteen, before China finally crack down
once and for all of Hong Kong and violated its
promises to Hong Kongers have freedom and autonomy for fifty
years after Great Britain handed Hong Kong over. In nineteen
(37:07):
ninety seven, the general manager at the Houston Rockets posted
on social media nothing more than just an image saying
that we should stand with Hong Kong and China came
down like a ton of bricks on the NBA and
on the Rockets in particular. They pulled NBA games off
of their streaming services and state television. They suspended streaming
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for the Rockets in particular, they stopped selling Rockets merchandise
in their stores. They suspended cooperation with the Rockets, and
where was the NBA as an institution nowhere to be found.
The team didn't support them, the league didn't support them.
Social justice warriors Lebron James and Stephen Kerr, who are
(37:56):
bound for the Hall of Fame, also didn't support them.
In fact, they condemned them. He's misinformed or that he
needed to be educated on the situation. Maybe I think
what Lebron James mett is that he needed to be
re educated along the lines of what China would do. ESPN,
who is not only the broadcast partner of the NBA,
but also again a corporate ability of Disney that has
(38:17):
massive operations in China, didn't even cover the situation. But
China still wasn't vacated. They demanded that Maury be fired.
Adam Silver said not, but strangely enough, within a year
he was out of a job and the Rockets were
back on TV in China, And that's not the only example.
(38:38):
The Brooklyn Nets CEO who came to his defense, one
of the few figures in the world of professional basketball
who came to his defense quote unquote, resigned after just
two months on the job, and guests who owns the
Brooklyn Nets Josie who is one of the founders of
the Chinese real retail giant Ali Baba and is a
(39:00):
frequent apologist for the Chinese Communist Party. Of course, that's
not the only case too, involving the NBA. Remember our
friend Nus Cancer Freedom. Yes, had a long time been
a voice on behalf of ordinary Turkish people who were
suffering under their own repressive government. Began to take up
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because of the weaker people, a religious and ethnic minority
in northwest China that Bote, the Trump and the Biden
administration said were suffering from a genocide. Two million, maybe
three million had gone into re education camps and indoctrination
and simply wore shoes that criticized Jijen pain or called
(39:44):
out the plight of the Wigers, or he stood up
for Tibet, something that liberals in Hollywood have long done.
And what happened. He was cut not too soon after
from the NBA, and he's told me, and I believe him,
that he feels that he was blacklisted by the NBA.
This is just an example again of the pervasive influence
that China has in our country and in our society,
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and it goes far beyond economic titles. Well, every cultural
institution in America faces this. You know, you've probably heard
of sister city programs that you know, American city's partner
with foreign cities. And that's fine if your foreign city
is you know, I don't know, in Spain or South
Korea or something, but in China comes with strings, and
the strings are they want to turn you into a
(40:30):
day facto lobbyist on behalf of communist China, not just
related to your particular city, Like, oh, you know, call
your congressman so you can get a visa to come
travel to your sister city in China. No, No, tell
your congressman that he should stop speaking out about Hong Kong. Ar.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
We're speaking to Senator Tom Cotton. He's got a new book.
He's got a new book out today, Seven things you
Can't say about China. Can go get your copy Center
of Cotton. You've you've been getting some headlines on the
Hill and some other places. Charlie Kirk tweeted out something
about how or I guess we call posting it all
on X You've got some concerns. This is the first
that I've heard you've had concerns about any of the
(41:06):
Trump nominees. But it has to do with what we're
talking about a bit, because it would be the under
Secretary of Defense for policy at the Pentagon, Bridge Colby,
I know you've addressed this a little bit, but I'm
just wondering if you could for all of us address
Is this just you want to hear more from Bridge
about where he stands now on some issues and what
can you tell us about this reporting that you have
(41:27):
some real reservations about a very senior level Trump Pentagon appointee.
Full disclosure, I've known Bridge for twenty years, so I
might be able to help fill in some gaps of
my own here, But go.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Ahead, sure, Well, with any nominee, but especially nominees in
critical national security roles at Defense or State or the
Intelligence Committee, we always want to probe their views and
see if those are aligned with the president. The president's priorities.
Of course, one of the President's highest priorities in one
of mine's at the very first day I got into
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the Senate is torn from acquiring nuclear weapons. You know,
when I came to the Senate, President Obama was in
the final days of negotiating the nuclear deal with the
Ran And in fact, that was the first time I
ever spoke to Donald Trump. He was a new candidate,
and he called me and I wanted to express his
thanks and admiration for the work I was doing fighting
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against that deal and fighting against a nuclear run. So
with all these nominees, if they play any role and
trying to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, I
and other senators are going to want to have questions
and our meetings with them and our hearings with them
to ensure they're aligned with the president's priorities. That's not
out of the ordinary. That's pretty customary. If you look
at the stuff that's gone on over the last two
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or three weeks, guys, you can see, for instance, that
Bobby Kennedy, who had been pro choice his entire life,
where I met with him, and then when you testify
that the committee said that he would support President Trump's
pro life policies, so you have a.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Not to go.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's sorry, we're going to come in to break it
sounds like you have questions for Bridge. I mean, I
know he he's very aligned, I think with you on China,
for example, which is what the book is about. I
think you could say he's a China Hawk for sure.
But on the Iranian issue you have questions. But if
the answers to those questions are satisfactory in line with
President Trump and with his agenda for national security in
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the Middle East and beyond, you don't have a problem
with the credentials or the background or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
I look forward to speaking to him about you know,
what he's written about Iran in the past, where he thinks,
now how he sees that fitting in with President Trump's
declared priority of stopping a run from getting nuclear weapons again.
It's a common part of the process that we did
with Bobby Kennedy that we did.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
How do you how do you?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
How do you?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
I mean you served by the way, how do you
think Secretary Headsets? Just real quick, I wanted to know
what do you think about Secretary Hegsets. So far, Clay
and I have been having fun talking about just some
of the visuals.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a refreshing change
to have a secretary who's a little bit closer to
our age and therefore closer to the soldier's age, who
was himself of that. And we've had very fine secretaries
of Defense who are in their sixties or seventies. But
it obviously offers a different perspective. And I think he's
already taken some steps to change some policies that were
(44:13):
implemented in the Biden era that were foolish, that diminished readiness,
that focused our troops on trivialities or distractions as opposed
to being ready to fight and win our nation's wars
and therefore preventing them from happening in the first place.
Now he's got longer term challenges that are going to
take years for all of us to tackle, like rebuilding
our industrial capacity, making sure that we have the kind
(44:35):
of next generation fighters that can counteract China, that our
ship buildings in a place where we encounter at China
as well. But on the things that he can do
on the first days in the job, I think he's
off to a good start. For instance, getting the army
and the Marine Corps and the Air Force and the
Navy focused back on fighting our nation's wars, not social
(44:55):
engineering or not making sure they're using the right pronouns
or using addressing climate change in the way they train
and so forth.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We're trying, as you know, to get a cease fire
and a resolution in Ukraine with Russia, and we just
had Marco Rubio talking with the Russians face to face
for the first time in years in Saudi Arabia. I'm
curious what you think about those conversations. And in particular,
there has been a discussion that one of the demands
(45:25):
might be an election in Ukraine, which Zelenski has not
allowed since the invasion happened. Should there be a Ukrainian election,
should it be connected to the idea of a ceasefire
in peace? How would you assess where we are right now?
Speaker 9 (45:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (45:41):
I mean, guys, I think Joe Biden left us all
a mess. That's the bottom line. Joe Biden's weakness tempted
Putin to invade in the first place. Biden pussy footed
around for three years, and I think in retrospect it's
clear that his plan was to lose. Just wait till
after the election, and that's what President and all of
(46:01):
us have to deal with right now. And I think
what he wants to what the President's trying to achieve
is what Javan said in Europe last week, Ukraine's sovereign
independence and preventing a third invasion of Ukraine in the future.
So to do that, we need to have a lasting
truce that will allow Ukraine to get back on its feet,
(46:22):
as you say, to have elections again, to have long
term prosperity. I think that's an important point as well.
You know, Lindsay Graham has floated the idea of having
a long term minerals deal with Ukraine that would give them,
you know, one pillar of long term economic growth, also
giving us what we need, which is more independence from
China to acquire the kind of rare earth minerals that
are necessary in a modern electronic economy. Now, is this
(46:46):
going to be something that everyone is satisfied with? Is
this what one might have hoped for, you know, a
year or two, three years ago? Probably not, But it's
what Joe Biden has left us with. And we've got
to do the very best we can to try to
get that durable truth that protects Ukraine's sovereign independence and
doesn't lead to a third invasion of Ukraine as we've
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had the first and second invasion under the last two
Democratic presidents.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
The book is Seven Things you Can't Say About China.
Go check it out, Senator Tom Cotton. We appreciate the time.
Look forward to talking to you again sometime soon. Enjoy
the book tour. Thank you again. The book Seven Things
you Can't Say about China. That was Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton.
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Speaker 1 (48:33):
You never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Might be a senator, might be a president, might be
a governor, might be a discussion about whether the Egyptians
really built the pyramids or not. Buck, My confusion between
Yetti's bigfoots abominable Snowman's has provoked great disturbance in the
Clay and Buck force. Don't leave Sasquatch off the list,
(48:56):
Sir Sasquatches as well. But I said, conspiracy theory. I
just don't buy that Egypt and the Egyptians, with their
modern technology at that time, built all the pyramids and
there's not something else going on that we don't know about.
But as I said, would likely be the case. Eric
(49:20):
in Milwaukee has called in. He is an ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. Explain Eric, how you become a ancient Near
Eastern archaeologist. But this is just evidence of what we
talk about, Buck, Whatever topic we discuss, there is someone
who is an expert out there listening.
Speaker 9 (49:44):
Well, lots of school, to put it briefly, all.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Right, so how disgusted? Eric asked him a question before
you get to the pyramid thing.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I'm just curious, have you ever been at a at
a tomb of one of these pharaohs and had a
little voice the back of your head like, I hope
there's not some weird curse here or does that never
cross your mind?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
No, but it reminds me of that Time Life book
series commercial where the guy put took metal, made it
into the shape of an ancient symbol and pointed it
at stone engs and then he felt the energy go
to his body.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Oh okay, cool, all right, Clay, you had a real
question about the Pyramids now commercial.
Speaker 9 (50:23):
That's a joke. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
So when you hear someone like me say, I just
don't buy it. I don't buy that they had the technology.
I think something else is going on here. First of all,
you probably hear it a decent amount because there's lots
of people who are morons like me. But your reaction
is what and you feel that we should know what
so that we are better informed.
Speaker 9 (50:48):
Well, so, as far as the archaeological evidence around the
Great Pyramids, they've excavated the remains of curs in ramps.
The quarries are nearby, some of them which with partially
quarried stone still in place, as well as they've excavated
the breweries, the bakeries for the workers, the barracks where
(51:11):
they lived. They've also recently, just in the last few years,
found some papyri the actually the most ancient inscribed pyrie
in existence near the Red Sea, that are bureaucratic documents
describing a lot of background on worker groups. You know,
(51:35):
it wasn't the slaves that built the Great Pyramids. It
was people from various villages around ancient Egypt that worked
as corvet labor and came during opportune times of the
year where they didn't have response agricultural responsibilities and came
and worked and sometimes even left graffiti how they were
(51:56):
proud that they had built this particular part of the pyramids.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
So you have zero doubt of that the Egyptians built
the pyramid using their modern technology at the time. Ramps
circling the pyramids. Is there anything you believe that would
be considered controversial in the Eastern European sorry, in the
archaeological universe, in which you.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Are an expert.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
In other words, Buck asked me, did I believe in conspiracies?
And I'm just I'm skeptical about the pyramids. Is there
anything that you believe that would be considered controversial in
your chosen field? Or are there any conspiracies in other
fields that you believe in? Or as a man of
rigor science and archaeology, do you believe in nothing like that.
Speaker 9 (52:50):
Usually the controversies are surrounding like there's a very ancient
temple that's been ex civated in Turkey. Uh, I'm going
to probably mess up the name, but it's a go
bleaky tet bay. And the debates are when when it predates, like, uh,
(53:11):
the invention of writing, and there's only like symbols and
various stone shapes and things to deal with before we're writing.
That's when you get into a lot of the more
like controversial theories and people really debating about the meaning
of certain temples are and things like that, and that
that comes that comes out in articles and in conferences
(53:33):
where people yell at each other and things like that.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
So do you have any conspiracy theories? Is there anything
you believe in that you think is controversial? In the
larger world like Blackness Monster, Bigfoot, any of this stuff.
Speaker 9 (53:47):
Well, I've always found the Lockness Monster kind of intriguing.
I don't. I've been to Scotland, but not that far
north that I've seen the locks, so I can't say
for myself. But I did have that Time Life book
series as a kid, Mysteries of the Unknown, So there
we go.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
I had that. What about curses? Do you buy into
the concept of Buck asked you, But like, do you
think there's anything to the idea of a curse in
any way?
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Tut? Wasn't there a King Tut curse when they went
into his tomb?
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And then people?
Speaker 2 (54:21):
And was it Howard Carter who found it? Like there's
all these different things. Do you buy into the concept
of a curse?
Speaker 9 (54:28):
Well, I know they they wrote them down, yes, As
to whether they were effective or not, I mean then
you have to then that gets into believing whether the
ancient Egyptian gods will actually had power and existed. So no,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
All righty sir, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
Appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
And it's so fun that we have so many brilliant
and varied experts in the in this audience, Clay, I
just want to point something out because I love when
I get to just, you know, dogpile on you with
the audience if you get something wrong. But I'm also here.
I'm a man of honor, and I'm here to tell
you that you are correct that the Himalayan creature is
(55:09):
referred to as as Yeti and sasquatch. This is according
to Google AI. So argue with Google AI. The abominable snowman. Okay, well,
abominable snowman is here, YETI is Himalayan. It's not all
the same though, as the point, you were right about.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
That, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
I'm getting abominable snowman. I cannot believe we're talking about this, guys.
I promise tomorrow I'll get back to saving the republic.
Abominable snowman is for here, Bigfoot obviously here, Sasquatch here.
There's apparently, in Florida folklore. As a Floridian, I like
to learn about my state something called the skunk Ape.
(55:46):
According to AI, I'd never even heard of this before.
There is something I can't even read it on the
air because it's spelled fo uk monster in West Virginia.
Have you ever heard of this? I don't know how
even say that. I don't want to try to say
it on the ido sounds it's like something I shouldn't say.
And then anyway, there's lots of variations of this, but
cultures all over the world have names for this version
(56:09):
of what we would call what there's.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
A good question that it is like just a fun
topic if you need a dinner table conversation. What is
the last truly shocking discovery that has occurred in America
or in the world that Epstein's suicide?
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I don't know, Well, how shocking? How shocking do we
have to go?
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, I mean like something that was earth shattering?
Speaker 1 (56:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (56:38):
For instance, there's this report that there is a three
percent chance, sorry everybody, that an asteroid's gonna hit Earth
in twenty thirty two, Right, I would say that an
asteroid striking Earth. Now you can say, COVID whatever. What
is the last truly earth shattering discovery? In some way?
(57:01):
In like I can't think of anything.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
In my mind.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Like obviously, like we all have phones and we can
walk around that. In nineteen sixty if you'd been like, hey,
you're gonna have the entire world's history in the palm
of your hand, and you'll be able to access any
information like that would have been fairly remarkable. But I
think people could have predicted it right. It wasn't crazy,
like what is the last thing that happened where you
(57:27):
were like, holy crap, I can't believe we now know
this and we didn't know this before.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
I I'm probably stepping into it here because I'm not
as up on this as I should be. But I
do think that there's you know, you know who was
talking about it recently was Mel Gibson actually, and I
was listening to mel Gibson to discuss it the shroud
of Turin and how it is from with radiocarbon dating,
it is from the period of Jesus, and that is.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
The newest report.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
I'm not an expert, you know, I'm not when I
say expert, like, I'm not even up on all the details.
But I do know that there was a little bit
of a whoa, this is actually from the right time
period for this to have been a real artifact. I
think that whole story is I thought it was cool
I read all about that.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
I mean, I have a lot of interest in ancient history.
For instance, they just found the oldest structure in London
that the Romans built, right underneath a thirty story building
that they're building. I just came back from Israel, where
you know, anybody who actually travels to the Middle East
or Europe or certainly Italy or you recognize how fragile
(58:40):
and young our country is. But when you're looking at
walls that are thousands and thousands of years old that
were built in biblical times and pre biblical recorded history,
I just I'm trying to think, like, what was the
last earth shattering discovery that was made that changed the
way that people can sieve of the world around them
(59:02):
and have You can tweet me because there may be
some great answers. I can't think of any, right, I mean,
there are things that we do that are remarkable, like
again the phone and the information all being in the
palm of our hands. But I mean something we discovered
and people were in display. For instance, you know back
in the fifteen hundreds, it would have been kind of
(59:24):
remarkable when people started saying, hey, you know, there's a.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Whole new world.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
If you just get on the ocean and you keep
going far enough, you come to a new land and
no one has ever really been there before, and it's
a truly new world. What is the last thing that
was at an earth shattering discovery? I can't even think
of one.
Speaker 1 (59:46):
Well, we'll put it out there for everybody.
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