Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Feb 19 2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Clay here with me in South
Florida for a MUI especial edition of The Clay and
Buck Show. Very warm weather here, Clay loving the Miami
life all of a sudden, It's phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel bad for bailing on the city of Nashville
right as a couple of inches of snow hit, but
it is nice to be an eighty degree short, splip
flops weather for the next few days, so I'm not
going to complain.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's a good time to be in Miami, Tennesseeans. Clay
had to be here. He's not abandoning you to the
snow store, and I promise it's not that he just
wanted the beautiful weather and didn't want to be up
to his ankles and snow. We got a lot to
talk to you about today, my friends. The remaking of
the GOP under Trump. We'll get into that. We've been
talking about it. The numbers speak very clearly to the

(00:54):
extent that we can gauge any of this. The Trump
shift not just in the GOP, which is out the
Trump GOP, but nationally the electorate, there's been major movement.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
We'll also get into this fascinating feud with Kathy Hokeel
and Eric Adams in New York City. Kathy hokl the governor,
Eric Adams the mayor of New York City, and she
is threatening for the first time. You know, New York's
been around a long time, you know, it's been it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
There for a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
For the first time in the history of the state
of New York there could be a mayor of New
York City duly elected removed by the governor of New
York State. And we shall get into why. But this
kind of intramural squabbling among Democrats, I think it's nothing
but a win for Trump. But it also just shows
you what a mess, what disarray they're in. So we're

(01:47):
gonna we're gonna break that down for you. As you know,
I was a New Yorker for basically three plus decades,
so still very much high up in my thoughts and
my family's still there. Got some interesting soundbites from Treasury
sect Terry Scott Bessant on the economy and how things
are going there, and yeah, we're going to be diving
into all of it. Let's just first and foremost talk

(02:11):
about what's going on with Doge. We have the White
House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt because the media is very
freaked out about some things when it comes to access
to personal information.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
This is cut three.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Here's Caroline Levitt Clay talking about what the actual status
of Elon Musk is.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
First of all, President Trump is the ultimate decision maker
for this entire administration. Elon Musk, just like everybody else
across the federal government, works at the direction of President Trump.
Elon Musk is a special government employee. As I have
told you before, he serves as a senior advisor to
the President, if you will. Within the Executive Office of
the President. Doge has people that again are onboarding as

(02:53):
political appointees at every respective agency and they are working
alongside our agency partners and the Secretary areas that President
Trump nominated and have been confirmed by the United States
Senate to identify waste, fraud and abuse at these agencies.
And that's his role.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I don't even understand Buck as you try to break
down exactly what might be occurring here. In terms of criticism,
the idea that somehow Elon Musk is going to be
using his access to individual people's information to in some
way restrict what they are their personal privacy is one

(03:32):
of the craziest arguments I think that Democrats have tried
to make against him.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
In general, it just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Add up remotely that a guy worth three hundred billion dollars,
the richest guy in the entirety of the United States,
is somehow going to dive into the tax returns of
a family of four from Topeka, Kansas.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
And get in there and screw it all up.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
It reminds me of the joke I think it was
Rodney Dangerfield who used to tell it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Buck.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Do you remember this joke when he said that his
credit card got stolen but he didn't report it stolen
because whoever stole it was spending less money than his wife.
I feel like if Elon got into my personal information,
he doesn't seem like a guy who's out on the
credit card running up huge bills all the time. I
feel like it would only help me if he had

(04:21):
access to my family's finances, and he and Big Balls
and all the other genius Doge related employees. If they
got access to any of our individual personal expenditures, I
think they could probably help out the family finances too.
I just don't understand this focus in general.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, it's fascinating because they've really shown everybody that the
belief is the federal bureaucracy and the people who work
within the federal government.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Don't really any in any.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Important way have to take orders from the president, from
the head of the executive branch. So what does that
tell you? I mean, is the press, Are you the
CEO of a company if you can't hire and fire?
I would say no, if you're not the CEO, you
don't have command authority within the entity if you can't
hire and fire. And what we're seeing is democrats because

(05:17):
they feel they have to try to slow down what
Trump is doing and what the agenda has been so far.
Democrats are now taking positions that are flatly indefensible, but
they have no choice, right so they keep saying, why
is why is Elon Musk getting all this access to things?
Why shouldn't he do you want do you not want.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Him to find the fraud?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Increasingly I think the answer is yes, we can all
see they don't actually want us to know. And here's
a perfect example of an exchange. Steven Miller, friend of
the show White House Deputy chief of Staff, had an
exchange with CNN's Brianna Keeler, and he just is straight
up laying it down, even though she's trying to create

(06:00):
this Oh my gosh, Elon and Doge they're going through
and finding fraud.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
He's like, what what are you talking at? Like, how
is this a bad thing? Play for?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Why are you not celebrating these cuts? If you agree
there is waste, if you agree there is abuse, if
you agree there is corruption, why are you not celebrating
the cuts, the reforms that are being instituted every day
that no action is taken, the entire salaries of American
workers that are at taxed disappear forever.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Stephen, Let's calm down.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
This is not We're not having as no reason.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
About whether they're are.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
You are clearly trying to debate me, and I I
will be as excited as I want to be about
the fact that we are saving Americans billions of dollars,
that we are ending the theft and waste and grift
and corruption, that we are stopping American taxpayer dollars from
subsidizing a rogue federal bureaucracy that has been relentlessly weaponized

(06:53):
against the American people.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
This should be something that everybody is on board for
because we know we have too much money being spent.
And it's interesting too, Clay, isn't it, because they keep saying, well,
if you don't touch Medicare and Medicaid and social really
it's Medicare and social Security. If you don't touch that,
nothing changes, nothing will happen with the budget. Well, let's
at least create the transparency, the systems and the habits

(07:19):
as a nation necessary to begin to rain these things in.
Because small winds beget big wins, right doing the I
just get Clay walked in today. He's like, damn buck.
It was like that's right, thirty pounds my man. Yeah,
but it took about four four five months, and it
was you know what, fewer cookies, you know what I mean,
it's like little things. You add it all together, you

(07:40):
start and the government needs fewer cookies. And Elon's walking
around saying, you guys are shoving you know, bonbonds in
every three seconds. This is not a good look. This
is not helpful for the for where the finances of
the nation are. And I just think that it's fascinating
to watch Democrats try to pretend a good thing is
a bad thing because the people doing the good thing,

(08:00):
Republicans Trump, are people they don't like.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I also want to give credit to Steven Miller. There.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
This guy, and you know, because he's been coming on
the show for years.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
This guy is so.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Incredibly passionate and committed to the job that he has.
And this is one of the stories. As we are
one month in I think it's thirty days of the
Trump administration if my math is right today, basically one month.
The biggest story to me of Trump two point zero
is how phenomenally discipline this White House has been. You know,

(08:38):
the New York Times and the Washington Post and The
Atlantic and the usual outlets NBCCBS, ABC that hate Trump,
the legacy media.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, they are.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Looking for every possible scandal story that they can write.
There have been almost zero leaks buck and you remember
Trump one point zero, it was like before they could
get anything done, there was somebody internally trying to screw
up all of the actions that they were at tempting
to undertake it has been. I think you got to

(09:11):
give credit to Susie Wiles, I think Steven Miller, I
think certainly Trump, jd Vance, Caroline Levitt, all of the
people that are in the communications team that have managed
this White House so far have done a splendid job
of making sure that all of the battles are being
fought in a way that the Trump team wants to

(09:33):
fight them. And Steven Miller being so fired up there
that CNN was saying, you need to calm down, sir.
Don't you want a pit bull like that every day
going to work committed? You know, the energy that it
takes to battle like this is off the charts. And
we know because Biden would sleep all day. Trump is
going twenty four to seven, and he's got a staff

(09:55):
that can do the same. And let me also give
credit here while I'm sprinkling commendations. I love that Trump
and Elon did a joint interview. I think Sean Hannity
did a fabulous job sitting down with both of them,
because the clear attempt of the left wing media has
been to drive a wedge between those two guys, and
when they are sitting talking directly with each other. It
is the perfect way to communicate. And I think you

(10:18):
have to give credit to Trump and Elon for not
taking the bait so far and for being in alignment
when it comes to just delivering every day for the
American taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yes, and that's what we see happening. Meanwhile, you keep
having these moments where the media says things that shows
you what the establishment Democrat apparatus mentality really is. CNN
has a host named Abby Philip, and you should just
hear this. She wants you to know that as far

(10:51):
as she, a journalist is concerned, sixteen billion dollars is
just no big deal. If we're lighting sixteen bills billion
with the b dollars on fire on some program like
What's the Problem Play five, they're not going.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
To make up for it.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
I mean, I'm just telling you the facts are okay.
Dode says that they have cut about sixteen billion dollars,
which is a rounding error in the federal government's budget.
But of that sixteen billion, they claim they saved eight billion.
This is according to The New York Times, eight billions
on a single contract. Turns out it wasn't eight billion.
It was eight million. Yeah, so we're talking pennies here

(11:29):
in the scale of the six trillion federal budget. It's pennies.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I just so today you'll notice last week it was
oh my god, he's cutting the heart out of the
federal government. They're doing way too much. He's got all
this access, you know, five alarm fire. This week it's
sixteen billion dollars. Try eight billion plus another eight million. Well, well,
which is it? Let's just get you know, you always
notice something with Democrats. The argument always moves because they lose,

(11:55):
and then they moved to another party. They moved to
another argument. Right, they never stay on it because their
arguments are trash and clay. How about coming up with
a way to make things better instead of just complaining
that what is trying to be done that is good
for all of us isn't perfect. Right, they just turned.
They're just like a bunch of whiners. The Democrats have

(12:16):
nothing to add to the conversation other than it's.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Not like you're going to fix everything.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
They just had a dementsiapation, a puppet of the system
for four years as president. I don't care what they
think about anything, And I think this is where.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
You come back to what Elon has said publicly is
the goal. The goal is to eliminate one trillion dollars
in fraud and wasteful spending, and then, due to tax
cuts and expedited economic growth, increase the overall tax revenues
by getting the growth rate in the nation to around

(12:49):
three percent. That would create a balanced budget. And so
CNN not really understanding that. Remember, Elon, I just Elon
is the most brilliant capitalist. I think it's not a
crazy argument to make now, Buck, in the history of
the United States. If you look at what he's done

(13:11):
with SpaceX, what he's done with Tesla, what he's doing
with Twitter X, what he's doing with Xai, what he's
doing with the boring company. I'm not sure we have
ever seen a more skilled practitioner of capitalism than Elon
Musk right now. He does hard things, and he does
hard things incredibly well. The fact that he has decided

(13:32):
to commit six or eight months of his time and
his legacy to trying to fix the budget is I
think an extraordinary gift that he has given to the country.
And you know what, Buck, we're talking about dinners and
everything else while we're down here in Miami. But one
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(13:53):
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Speaker 2 (14:03):
I tell you something a little sad because I checked
last night. We're actually out of the chicken nuggets. I
was gonna say I was going to bring Clay chicken
nuggets for lunch, but I took them. I count the macros,
but I took them all out last week.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm sorry, including all of Buck's beloved chicken nuggets, steaks,
great food inside of your house. And you know, one
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Speaker 1 (15:57):
How are things going for Democrats these days? Very well?
And this is true in a macro sense. It is
true nationally.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
It is true when you look at the polling data.
It is also true in New York City, where you
have a number of things coming together. This is turning
into quite a Shakespearean tale of intrigue and drama behind
the scenes. So, just by way of review, before I
take you to the current moment where Hochel is holding meetings,

(16:25):
the governor of New York is holding meetings, but whether
she will just unilaterally use her authority as governor to
the New York State Constitution to remove Eric Adams as mayor.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Eight million people in the city of New York get
to vote for their mayor. I know a very very
small percentage of them actually do vote. But the point
is a big city, a lot of people, and the
governor's like, yeah, no, I don't like him. I'm gonna
I'm gonna pull them. It's a Democrat from her own party,
a prominent black Democrat mayor of the biggest city in
America may have a governor from his own party removing them. Well,

(16:58):
let's get into how we got here, because I think
the real story Clay starts with Eric Adams speaking out
about immigration, illegal aliens in his city and the fifteen
billion something like that that they had to set aside
in New York and the budget to hotel rooms, food,

(17:19):
you know, all kinds of real healthcare, all kinds of resources.
At one point I saw that New York City, thirty
percent of emergency room emergency room capacity was going to
routine care. This isn't illegals coming in saying you know,
oh my gosh, you know I got stabbed in the shoulder.
Helped me doctor. It's illegals coming in saying, you know,
I need eyeglasses. Where's my vision test? It's all free.

(17:41):
So Eric Adams had enough. He spoke out. And I
think the immigration issue right now, we're so focused on
doze and what's being cut. And I think the immigration
issue was the one that Democrats just got slammed by
the electorate in this last election. They couldn't run from it.
Too many millions of illegals piling in. So we know that,
but it's a problem. Then they bring these charges against

(18:02):
Eric Adams, all right, they bring an indictment against Eric
Adams for wire fraud, corruption, bribery, a bunch of different things.
And when you look into it, you say upgrades on flights.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Really, I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
If someone handed him a bag of cash with a
million dollars in it, you'd say, okay, that's bribery.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
It's pretty straightforward upgrade on an airplane, though. You know,
this is a little bit starts to get into.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
If you get a nice table in the restaurant because
you're famous as the politician, is that too much? You
know what? So Trump's new acting ag Emil bow Right,
He's come in and he's had a conversation with the
US Attorney's Office in New York where he's like, look, guys,
let's rethink this. Some of them have quit, and now

(18:46):
a bunch of deputy mayors for deputy mayors under Eric
Adams have quit because they've all decided that this is
really important that Eric Adams go to prison. Trump is saying,
hold on a second. Tom Boman has sat down with
Eric Adams and said, thank you for taking the proper steps,
including allowing the ICE Immigrations Customs forcement to get into

(19:08):
the Rikers Island prison facility, which is like the main
prison for New York. I mean, it's a mess, Clay,
and I don't think Hochel's going to do this, but
she's holding meetings to clearly threaten that she'll remove the mayor.
What a circular firing squad the Democrats have set.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Up, no doubt and what Trump is doing and I
think it's actually one hundred percent the right call is.
He is saying the standard for corruption when it comes
to politics needs to be very significant in nature. For instance,
Robert Menendez, based on the evidence that I saw the

(19:46):
Democratic senator from New Jersey that he has been convicted
and I believe sentenced to eleven years in prison. Now,
he was being paid off by a foreign government gold bars.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
They bought his wife a car.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
These are things where you look at it and you say, okay,
that is beyond the pale. But the idea of hey,
Eric Adams made a phone call because the Turkish consulate
was having issues and needed to get okayed because they
had a big event happening. There is a difference between
blatant corruption and politicians doing what politicians do and buck

(20:26):
This is important because we've talked about this quite a lot.
The governor of Virginia got prosecuted for what the Supreme
Court came back and said was basically being a politician.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
McDonald. That's correct, and they wanted to go after his wife.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Correct totally and the why, and I understand, Look, we
don't want corrupt politicians. And I think one reason why
Trump has been so popular from the moment he came
down the escalator is his number one sells pitch, and
I think it is one percent true is I have
enough money that I don't need to use this office

(21:03):
to make me wealthy. And almost every politician leave's office
super rich, which is always interesting, buck when they only
have made around two hundred thousand dollars a year. It's
amazing how many multimillionaires we have created in American politics.
Joe Biden's a perfect example of it. And so with

(21:26):
Eric Adams. What it seems to me Trump is establishing
is we're not going to go after politicians for corruption
for what appeared to be political related reasons. You and
I talked about this. The minute Eric Adams came out
and started criticizing Joe Biden's immigration policies and said New
York City couldn't afford to fund what Biden wanted him

(21:48):
to do, it was like the protection from the Biden
administration vanished and it turned into we're going to attack
this guy to send a message about what happens when
you speak out against my.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's exactly the dynamic. As a Democrat, a prominent Democrat
who's doing what the machine wants, you have a degree
of invincibility, you know, like Hunter Biden, who, remember we
told you this, never going to spend a day in prison,
did not spend a day in prison and got away
with the whole thing, essentially. And because they delayed so
long the charges against him, they weren't able to do.

(22:21):
They weren't able to even bring the most serious charges.
But I'm just saying that was because he was Joe
Biden's son. And we all know it. Everyone knows that
we're not idiots. We understand what's going on the Clinton Foundation.
When the Clintons were engaged in a vast global scheme
of graft and influence pedling under the guise of charity
they were pouring to democrats, they thought Hillary's gonna win.

(22:42):
You can't touch her all of a sudden. I always,
pardon me, I'm always reminded of that scene in The Departed,
not a movie that I particularly like that much A
lot of people. To me, it's a little too nihilistic
and violent, but whatever, it's well made. I know you're
all gonna gallop me Overloves the Departed. It's it's enjoyable.

(23:02):
I've seen it a couple of times, but it's not
as good as people say it is. Anyway, now that
I've angered some of you, remember the scene where he goes,
that's a guy that's not quite a guy you can't touch,
but you know, you know what I'm talking about. He's like,
that's a Democrats have that they are like made guys.
It's like a mob thing, like you can't hit that guy,
like he's a made guy. Eric Adams went from being
a made guy mayor of New York Democrat black leader,

(23:26):
and all of a sudden they took that away because
he's causing problems at the national level on immigration, and
then they go after him on corruption. And here's the thing.
If they back off the corruption charge, now it looks
even more obviously like it was political to the people
who brought it on the whole system. Right, So that's why,
of course they're going to fight this. And I'm just
laying out how the next couple of years are going

(23:47):
to go. Andrew Cuomo is about to announce Andrew for
mayor of New York City.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Former governor of New York. Andrew Cuomo is going to
win the mayor's race. I'm just grab this. This is
like me predicting the next couple of years. I'm either
gonna look like a genius or a moron. So grab
this flagot Okay, He's gonna win New York City mayor.
He then is going to turn We've been talking about
who is the face of the Democrat party right now,
he is going to turn into the most anti Trump

(24:17):
Democrat figure. They're gonna get in a fight over what
America means. I'm laying out exactly how this is gonna go.
Cuomo is gonna wrap himself in the Statue of Liberty
and Ellis Island. And this is not the you know,
you can hear how he's gonna talk. This is not
the America we are. He's gonna try to sweep away
all the COVID lies right, one of the worst governors

(24:39):
in the country for COVID.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
He didn't get kicked out of office.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Buck in New York's forgiving smooches on the cheek and
grabbing the tom tom of a couple of states, not
police ladies.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Not for all of his failures with COVID, but for
inappropriate conduct with subordinates, which, let's be honest, relative to
most me too, cass.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can we pull some of what he remember when he
had like the slide show, He's like.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Is it true that sometimes I kiss a woman on
the side of a face?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yes, it is true. I am Italian. We give kisses.
We like lasagna.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Sometimes we have long family dinners and we give inappropriately
long hugs to subordinates.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
What's the problem? You know? He did the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yes, and everybody was like, this is so weird because
you're gonna leave office for this, and they pushed him out.
But because of the way he was pushed out, I
don't I don't disagree with anything he.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Like his next step. He's gonna run in twenty eight.
He is going to see it. You're you're calling two shots.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
This is not just this, this is the double. This
is out. This is out into the parking.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I'm calling, like Babe Ruth knock yet knocking it out
of out of the old game.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
So you're saying he's gonna become mayor and then run
as a Democrat for president.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think you are not wrong, So you sign on now.
I know, I think you are not wrong. Yes, now
I'm not saying he's gonna to be the nomination and
I'm not saying he's the nominee either, But will he
run and will he launch that platform based off of Oh,
here's the other thing cleaning up New York and this
is Eric Adams. I think I've been very clear. I've
tried to be very fair about this. Eric Adams is

(26:15):
not malicious to the City of New York, meaning I
think if it was within his capability, that's why the
immigration thing. But because he's like, there are people camp
out in all the hotels and we can't afford this,
and this is nuts. He doesn't have the leadership skill
set to turn around New York and deal with what
he has to deal with to get it going there, right,
He just I think it's beyond his capability. Deblasio was like,

(26:37):
let me burn this place down because that's what it deserves.
Like Deblasio actively harmed the city of New York for
ideological reasons. It's not that hard. We have a template.
Rudy Giuliani. You go back, you read the history. It
starts with safety, it starts with cleaning up the streets.
Of crime and cleaning up the streets just period of

(26:58):
like dirt and trash and stuff. Uh So that then
leads to so many other possibilities. And Cuomo is smart
enough as a politician and as a person to know that.
And he's also rough and tough enough. I think with
some of the systems in New York, whether it's you know,
the public sector unions, the teachers unions, the police union,

(27:18):
all that he would get things, that he would be
able to move things in the right direction on that.
I still think he's terrible on a whole range of things.
I think he was a dictator on COVID. I'll never
forgive him for that.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Horrifying that he might be mayor of New York and
I don't even live there anymore, but I do. I
do see the pathway for him. And I think also
Hokal with this whole removing Eric Adams thing, here's it.
They they are removing him. Theoretically, it's not gonna I'm
also predicting this. It's not gonna happen. They're just you know,
making it seem like Hokeel's going to do this to

(27:48):
put pressure on him. He didn't pull the like he didn't. Yeah,
so you know, by the way, he's been very clear,
this is cut sixteen. He's like, I'm not going anywhere
play it.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
I enjoyed every moment a bit of police officer.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
They prepared me for.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
Where I am right now is the mayor of the
greatest city on the globe. Everybody too want to take you,
and they gonna have to take you because I'm going
no way.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm gonna be the man happy black his me money.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, he's not going to win reelection. That I can't
tell you. He's not gonna win reelection, But I think
they'll let him finish out his term and we'll see.
We'll see what happens next fall. But Clay, the position
that the Democrats are in right now is fascinating because
they are saying that they want to remove Adams because

(28:41):
of Trump DOJ pressure. That's not Adams's fault. There's nothing
that says they really want to remove him because of
his stand on illegals in the city. And they're using
the Trump DOJ corruption thing as a pretext to get
rid of him totally.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
And here's another wild part of this.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Two other little anecdotes associated with why this might matter
if you're a big you know, if you live right
now in Nebraska, or you live in Florida where we are, Tennessee,
or California, and you're like, why do I care about
the New York City mayor race? Possibility that Eric Adams
ends up running as a Republican. Those machinations are going
on behind the scenes because he's going to lose the
Democrat primary, and typically if you win the Democrat primary,

(29:21):
you're going to win the mayor's race, So that is
something to put a pin in. I don't think Eric
Adams could win as a Republican, but it is intriguing.
Second part on this, and this is why I think
Andrew Cuomo is setting himself up to not be Mayor
of New York City, which I think he will be,
but he really wants to be President. Trump gets in
fights over New York City related issues because he still

(29:41):
sees himself as a New Yorker.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Andrew Cuomo is going to be able to elevate his
national profile because they'll get into a fight over congestion, pricing,
or what the situation is going to be with immigrants
in New York City, and that will elevate Cuomo in
a way that puts him as a primary combatant of Trump.
And that is I think the calculus that he is

(30:06):
playing out here is he doesn't want to be mayor
of New York City. This is about Andrew Cuomo setting
himself up to run for president of the United States.
Look at the way this plays out. He gets elected
this fall twenty twenty six. He is starting to step
up to Trump, and then you start running for president
in twenty twenty seven. He's going to be one of
the top Democrats going forward. Just understand that on a

(30:28):
national level.

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fire holding in the Middle East. Now, I don't know
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(33:03):
that Hamas has murdered them, kidnap them. The father has
been released. There is expectation that Hamas is turning over
murdered bodies as part of the ongoing ceasefire there. It's
an awful situation. We will update you on that as
it goes forward. But the best case scenario is that

(33:24):
the ceasefire keeps holding and the hostages who have not
been murdered by Hamas are able to be released. That
is a credit the fact that we have a ceasefire
at all in the Middle East is a credit to
Trump's election. When I was in Israel in December meeting
with top Israeli officials, they all said the election of
Trump changed the calculus of Hamas. Shortly thereafter got the

(33:47):
ceasefire in the north with Hesbola, and then Hamask also
got in line. We hope that that ceasefire is going
to hold. Now the focus has shifted to the European theater.
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, we talked to last week.
They had the first face to face meetings between the
Russians and the Americans since the invasion of Ukraine began.

(34:10):
That happened in Saudi Arabia, and one of the discussions
now going on is what needs to happen in order
for a ceasefire to take root in Ukraine, Russia and
in the largest ground war to take place in Europe
since World War Two. And Trump has now teed off

(34:32):
on Zelenski in particular, saying why is this guy? First
of all, where's the money going? Which is a valid question.
We have sent hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine
and there does not seem to be an accounting for
where all that money went. Taxpayer dollars. The continued just

(34:53):
shovel of money that we have been sending there has
slowed down.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Trump has put a pause on it.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
But he's also raised a really important question, and I
don't know that many of you have even thought about this.
One of the conditions going forward in order for Ukraine
and Russia to have a ceasefire is Ukraine actually having
an election. Zolensky does not appear willing to have an

(35:20):
election because he doesn't actually have that much popular support
in Ukraine. We have all been told, oh, Zolensky, he
is the most popular politician anywhere. Everyone loves him. Why
won't he allow an election to take place? If he
supposedly is standing for democracy. It's a question that suddenly
has emerged, and I think it's an important one that

(35:43):
we should be talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Clay Are, resident Civil War amateur historian, brought up that
even during the height of the Civil War, and it
is in fact the case, Abraham Lincoln was concerned about
challenges from the electorate, as in, is he going to
get re elected? And if there weren't some battlefield successes
from specifically, I think was Grant and Sherman right to

(36:08):
make the public feel like the North was actually on
a pathway to victory. Abraham Lincoln might have lost that election,
but it turned out he won, and as we know well,
it certainly wasn't happily ever after for Lincoln after that.
But the point is they allowed elections to happen, and
they don't allow that in Ukraine right now. I'm also

(36:29):
curious what the role is that Zelenski thinks that Trump
administration is supposed to play here because we have provided them.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Here's one thing to remember.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
There's what we have officially provided them, as in people
know about, and then there's the help that we have
given them quietly, as well as some of our more
militarily adept NATO partners. It's a lot more than people
think and realize. It is right, the intelligence assistants, the
training assistants, the things that have been going on to
bring Russia to a stalemate. Without the help of the

(37:02):
US specifically, and then a couple of our NATO partners
pitching in too, Ukraine would not be able to hold
Russia back in this way. So it's not like Clay.
We are bystanders, you know, We're not up in the
bleachers yelling at the ref and interfering in the game.
Without US, there is no game without us. This war

(37:25):
would have been lost for Ukraine a long time ago.
So for Trump to take a role in trying to
get negotiations started, let's see where this goes. I'm not surprised,
but it is a little bit frustrating to see some
of the comments that have been made from Zelensky specifically
given this, he certainly does not come across as being

(37:45):
somebody who is grateful for the help of the unit.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
I mean, he kind of says it, but.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
He, I think, is in a position right now where,
first of all, the Russians are on the move, the
Russians are actually on the offensive. To get a deal
done is probably better now than it would be if
you were to wait six months or twelve months now.
Putin obviously knows that too, but bringing this conflict to
an end is essential. I mean, Trump has called Zelenski

(38:14):
now a dictator and has accused him publicly of misusing usaid.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Is that true, Because if.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
It's true, Trump calling out is the right thing to do,
and I don't think Trump would say this unless he
felt like he needed to bring Zelensky to the table
with a bit more pressure to get an end to this.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Well, yeah, let me put my history nerd hat on here.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
If you are arguing, hey, Ukraine stands on the side
of democracy.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Did you know? And I know because I wrote my
thesis on it.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
In eighteen sixty four, Abraham Lincoln ran against George McClellan
buck his former head of the Union Army, and McClellan
ran as the Democrat.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Lincoln was the Republican. In eighteen sixty four.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
McClellan ran basically on the precept of we need to
have peace, and we need to go ahead potentially and
allow the South to withdraw.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
And to your point, basically, the South wins, I mean correct,
South gets to be what it is, which is not
a part of the Union.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
And that's ballgame, everybody correct.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And the entire election came down to be a referendum
on should the Civil War continue to be prosecuted as
it was? And to your point, it was uncertain who
was going to win again we had an election during
the Civil War in this country, and until Sherman took

(39:38):
Atlanta and began his march to the Sea. For those
of you who are Civil War history nerds, it was
unclear whether Lincoln was going to win. It was the
capture of Atlanta in September that was the false surprise
of the eighteen sixty four election, and Lincoln could say,
we've got to keep the steam going. We don't need

(39:59):
to now allow the South to have the opportunity to
think they can win.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
The war, because all you needed from the Confederate point
of view was a stalemate that continued long enough where
the survival of the Confederate Army ran off that the
North loses the political will to continue the fight. When
Sherman comes in and makes it more of a total
war scenario going after the war, making capability the railroad depots,
supply lines of the Lee's Confederate Army, it changed the

(40:27):
equation in the minds of people in the North. So
that's how mcloughan's defeated and Lincoln wins. Point here being
so Zelenski just says, no elections and I'm in charge until.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
What And by the way, not just Civil War buck
World War two. FDR won an election which was in
many ways a referendum against Dewey in November of nineteen
forty four. On how the election was going, and if
you go back in time, and if you actually do
your historical analysis, it wasn't a coincidence that Eisenhower invaded

(41:02):
in June of nineteen forty four, because in the summer
of that election season, this was the idea being, Hey,
we're prosecuting the war against Hitler in Germany, and things
were going well enough that people said, I can see
an end coming to this war. But in the summer
when they were running, there was an uncertainty about how

(41:23):
this should come out. My point on it is the
United States arguing that Ukraine through Trump, that Ukraine should
have an election is actually consistent with democratic republican values
of the United States. When we have allowed elections to
take place in this country during the two I would argue,

(41:45):
most crucible moments about what the future of this republic
would be. We allowed citizens to go vote on whether
the Civil War should continue. We allowed citizens to go
vote on whether World War iiO should happen, and why
shouldn't we act. That's the same thing of Zelensky. This
seems very rational to me. Now, the reason Trump's calling
him a dictator buck is because Zelensky doesn't think he

(42:08):
would win the election, and this is important for everybody
in America who's been told, oh, Zelensky is this war hero.
Everybody in Russia loves him. Wait a minute, why won't
he allow Ukrainian will to come out and for Ukrainians
to vote about what they think should happen this These
are really good questions that haven't been discussed in this country. Well,

(42:31):
there's also one of the challenges here is that the
Ukrainian fight has been held up as a proxy effectively
a proxy army against the Russians and the really cynical.
But I think for a lot of people who view
it as a very accurate sense of this is that

(42:51):
the support of the Ukrainian army was an opportunity for
US to bleed the Russian Federation without losing any of NATO,
without losing any actual NATO soldiers, right, And so in
that formulation, the longer the conflict goes, the better it
is for the people sitting there pulling the puppet strings,
because they're just losing Ukrainians, they're not losing NATO allies,

(43:14):
and they're making things harder on Russia. Now, I think
that's a brutal and an immoral and short sighted way
of viewing the situation. But there is that sentiment among
the foreign policy elites. I wouldn't say consensus anymore, because
they're not calling the shots Trump is, but there is
that sense among them that this is giving us greater

(43:35):
strategic depth against Russia. And they also say this, and
Zelensky says this himself, This crazy stuff about how Russia
is going to overrun all of Europe unless they're stopped
in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's just not true. The Russians don't have the capacity
to do that. They don't have the capacity to overrun
Ukraine right now with the support that's being given. They're
not about to invade Germany and trigger Article five of NATO.
That's not going to happen. So we're told things about
this conflict that are not true. And the longer it
tracks on, the higher the body count goes. Isn't it fascinating?

(44:03):
Think of all the people, Clay, who are so upset
about the loss of I'm talking about the left and
Democrats in this country. Everything that happens in Gaza is
a cause for you know, college kids and you know
MSNBC hosts to start crying. Look at the loss of
life that's going on in Ukraine. Day in and day out.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
No, that's that's worth it because it's protecting democracy? Is it?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Really?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
How is it protecting democracy?

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Isn't the very foundation of democracy allowing people to pick
their leaders even in a time or learning something new.
I also don't think very many people even are aware
that Zelensky has ended all elections in his country, and
so I think this is a real conversation. We'll take
some of your calls, by the way, eight hundred and
two two two eight a two if some of you
have questions about this. But I do think this is

(44:52):
a conversation on a substantial level that frankly, the American
public has not been as well informed as they could
have been. And I think it's important to use our
country's history as a argument for what we think the
precedent should be for other countries. In times of war.
The Constitution doesn't vanish in the United States.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
In times of.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Lincoln did suspend heneous corps. Actually, nobody's perfect, nobody's that's
actually a super nerd a bit that you know that.
But he did allow the election to happen. And unfortunately,
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Speaker 2 (47:07):
Well, stop depresses everybody, because the Democrats may have found
their way back into the mainstream, into the hearts and
minds of the American people. And I don't know that
we have a ready response for this. I don't know
what the counteraction would be, Clay. I am concerned that
they may have found the weak, soft underbelly of trump Ism,

(47:33):
and maga if you will. I didn't see this one coming.
Democrats upset at the Kennedy Center are protesting outside via
interpretive I.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Can't even get through it via interpretive, Dads.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
This is the saddest spectacle I have seen since Chuck
Schumer was shrieking on.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Stage a week or two ago about how horrible Trump is.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well with an avocado and a yeah, with an avocado
on a corona, talking about you know, Mexico and avocados.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
They're going to be so expensive. Uh, this interpretive dance.
First of all, they're not even good at dancing. I
could do this, and I'm not saying anybody would want
to see.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Me do this.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
You are a TikTok dance impress ario. He's never gonna
let that go.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I still want to see the TikTok dance you were
practicing by yourself in your apartment. Some of us try
and fail at things, and we just accept that life
is not you know, life is not easy on all
of us who want to learn how to do a
shuffle dance. Yeah, I was not good at shuffle dancing
during during the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
But these you see these individuals.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
First of all, it is it is kind of amazing
how much you can look at people. Well, maybe particularly
this crew, because who really protests outside the Kennedy Center.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Isn't Rick Rennell.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Now he's the I think he's in charge of the
Kennedy Center. The Kennedy Center.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
These these individuals outside the Kennedy Center are I don't
know if they're moving their chi or their chakra or
their energy center or whatever, but they're they're not good dancers,
and they're doing interpretive dance as protests outside the Kennedy Center,
which is just making everyone think, Wow, this place really

(49:10):
needs more talented dancers.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
I'm glad that new people are in charge.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I think also as much as Trump is right about
almost everything, and again in a non partisan way, border
ending war, trying to reduce government for auden waste, trying
to decrease the amount of taxes that everybody pays, these
are all very popular aspects of American governance right now.

(49:38):
In addition to their not being a primary Democrat opponent,
there's no one who people go to and say, hey,
this is the Democrat leader. Whether you like Nancy Pelosi
or not, she was, I think, a pretty effective spokesperson
compared to what Democrats have now. Democrats are also just
huge dorks. And if you're wondering why young people, people

(50:01):
under the age of thirty are gravitating towards Trump, does
anybody out there who's nineteen think, Hey, I really wish
I could have been a part of that interpretive dance
outside of the Kennedy Center to protest Trump. There was
for a long time, go back in time, buck woodstock
was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Whoa, we're going this way?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Bime, right, But if you think about when Democrats really
took control of the culture, a bunch of filthy hippies.
I get it, But what were they doing. They were
celebrating music, they were they were throwing a party. They
were having lots of sex. They were drinking and using
drugs like they were rebellious.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Some communists bachan, all, I'm just gonna do it. I
can do without it. I'm just saying that if you
were a teenager, looked like it might be something fun
to do, or you're in your twenties. Now they're dancing
in interpretive dance outside of the Kennedy Center. Buck, you
and I drove past the protest at the inauguration.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I actually we actually had this is fun.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
We had a great time because we pulled up and
from the first moment Claan, I look at them and go,
oh manch we get some you know, man on the street,
it was cold.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
We'll have producer Alli because she.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Can infiltrate any leftists. They'd never see producer ally coming.
We all know this because producer ally, she lives in
a hip part of New York.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
She might be a hot yoga class. You got no
idea where she might show up. She's a double agent.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
She's a hip lady who knows where the hip people
hang out. She gets invited to those parties in Brooklyn
where I don't even know how you get to go
to it.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Remember, she used to work at an illegal bar and
hang out with Moby. Moby needs to hit on her.
I'm just Moby never hit on me.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
I'm just saying I don't even know where Mobi would
have gone in the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
So Ali, but we drove past and we said, maybe
we'll get some of these people. And then we looked
at them and we actually started to feel badly because
it was so cold outside and it was so sad.
There's people there like and they had like the signs
for different things too. So it's clear that not even
all the people there are there for one reason. They
just had no thing better to do on a frigid
Saturday after Trump handed the Democrats in ass kicking, they

(52:05):
had nothing better to do than gathering together and talk
about climate change in Palestine while they're little.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
They were shivering, and that was like there was shaking.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Some androgynous chick is like beating on a one draggled
drum drum.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
It was sad.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
It wasn't even like they didn't even have any guys
walking around playing flutes.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I mean, I could have added a little bit of
flavor there.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
They really like a metaphor for the entire state of
Democrats right now, you know, because I've seen I've been
to big Democrat protests, like I've been there when they
have fifteen thousand people and they've got the chance, and
they've got celebrities.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Remember Occupy Wall Street Clay they had.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
You know, uh, well, who's the one. I don't like her,
but everyone every an halfaway she was there. You know,
these famous actor types would show up and they're like, yeah,
like down with capitalism. It's like, don't you live in
a twenty million dollars house in Malibu? But anyway, at
least they used to hey, you know, I mean, you know,
it depends like you look at this stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Even the vagina hats look old. They're not even making
new vagina. Remember the Women's March back in twenty seventeen.
At least they had like a newly made like the
women walking around in the vagina hats. The vagina hats
look like they're moth riddled. They're eight years old. And
I just I look at the protesters and I just
actually felt sorry for them. We were sitting in a nice,

(53:16):
warm car, and I was thinking, I just I kind
of want to just offer that, like there was an
old like remember the old lady we drove past, yes,
And I was like, you know, it's Saturday, it's twenty
five degrees. You're gonna die at a protest against Trump.
Like shouldn't you just be like, you know, facetiming with
your grandkids and having some cocoa.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
This is also where you know, psychiatry unfortunately is completely
dominated by far far left individuals. Right, And because I'm
really curious what the correlation is between far left thinking
and psychological and emotional destabilization.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I bring it up because.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Our people on the right, center, right, centrist, whatever, they
don't sit out there and freeze banging drums and yelling
about Palestine in downtown DC as if anybody cares. I mean,
this is like, you know, this is like the guys
pushing around shopping carts that have random Bible versus who
are shouting crazy things in the air, and you're like, wait,

(54:15):
what does this have to do with anything?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Like who is this for?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Remember when New York magazine recently, first of All, had
a dishonest cover photo from the inauguration party. They worked
shopped out or photo shopped out minorities and tried to
be like, oh, this is just Trump's maga movement. It's
a bunch of white kids. But the picture of the party,
the girls were really good looking, the guys were good looking,
and you were like, this seems like a party if

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you were in your twenties that you would hope to
be invited to because you could go meet an attractive
member of the opposite sex. And they're trying to make
it seem like a cruel thing that actually it's a
cool thing. They called it the Cruel Kids Table was
the headline. I think there's even some lawsuits going on
about this.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Also interesting that the individual who I believe organized that
party is a black concern, correct, So so they're they're
they're you know, dumping on the people at this party
for the lack of diversity, and they made sure nobody
knows that the person throwing the party is a black guy,
a black conservative CJ.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Pearson.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
So yeah, it's they they have They've never clay in
my in my recollection, honestly, they've never lost their stranglehold
over the culture the way that they have now, and
that I think is adding to this sense of panic.
The Democrats are panic. And you know it's not just us.

(55:36):
We've played you clips from other prominent Democrats. You know,
James Carville, it's just like one four letter word after
another when he talks about where his party is right now.
But even the Pod Save Bros. They're much younger. They're,
you know, forty or thirty years younger than Carville is. Uh,
they're saying the same things. They're in disarray, and it's
because they used to be able to rely on the celebrity, uh,

(55:59):
you know, the celebrity and entertainment industrial complex to push
their worst ideas constantly. You know, DiCaprio's going around flying
everyone on climate change. You don't even hear about climate
change these days, you know. I mean they made a
sixteen year old into their false god, Greta Thunberg, over
climate change, and they don't they don't have the same
ability to dictate what the culture is. And I think

(56:20):
that it's kind of funny to see how we used
to The paradigm we were told was that politics is
downstream of culture. But it does feel more and more
like culture is downstream of politics right now because Trump
has had such an effect on the culture of the country.
I don't just mean in terms of who you vote for.
I mean in terms of where corporations stand, where entertainment,

(56:41):
you know, with his entertainment options that are out there,
what people are gravitating towards. You know, what leagues or
even sports leagues are doing well and which ones aren't.
All of this has been affected by that national conversation.
And this is where I don't know. Look, a lot
of people, we know this. A lot of people voted
for Kamala Harris. Oh I didn't bring this up the
other day. You know, she still in the league. For Democrats,

(57:02):
they right now Kamala Harris far and away is their choice.
And that is shocking to me because Kamala Harris, I think,
if you have any objectivity whatsoever, is just a truly
horrific political candidate. But they think, meaning the Democrat Party
faithful believe that she is the best option that they have.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Still they're in trouble, and they're in trouble again.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I think to your point on culture, they don't have
a spokesperson, and the people that are the face of
the Democrat party right now just look to be complete
and total losers. And there is an element of coolness associated,
particularly with young voters in which party they gravitate to,
and frankly, Democrats seemed for much of the twenty first

(57:48):
century to be way cooler. That's gone and what's fascinating
now is you look at under thirty year old voters,
young men, I believe in twenty twenty eight are going
to continue to break even more for Republicans. And I
give credit to my wife because I think she's right
about this. A lot of young girls who want to
be popular with boys, that is, you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,

(58:11):
nineteen year old girls are also now starting to gravitate
towards Trump in a way that never would have been
the case before. And I also think the secondary aspect
of this buck is the continued devolution in the importance
of abortion, because really Democrats became the party of young,
unmarried women based on abortion and I don't think that

(58:34):
fear in the wake of Dobbs overturning Roe v. Wade
has the cultural cogency that it did in twenty twenty two.
Comm will remember our good friend the shrieking woman at
the liquor store.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
About women of America.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
They didn't show up based on abortion in twenty four
and I don't think it's gonna work in twenty six
or twenty eight. And this is I think one of
the benefits of giving the political process back to abortion
and reproductive rights. Trump, to his credit, just came out
and supported IVF. Remember they went after they set up.
He just came out and said, hey, I want to

(59:09):
make IVF even more affordable. Good for him. We need
more babies in this country.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
But they're in trouble. I think they're going to.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Lose young women increasingly in the years ahead because the
fear mongering is not registering with them in the same way.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
And I think that all the all of this is
tied together. What are considered. And you know, we, as
much as I like to joke around with Clay, we
would have been in college at the same time. Clay
could have been a senior giving me wedgies as a freshman.
But so we're we're of the same of the same
uh generation and time period. It was the institution, the

(59:45):
elite institutions were captured by the left, which happened before
we came along, but it was clear as day you
had to be you know, if you wanted to get
certain kinds of jobs, you had to get the stamp
of approval for certain places, and if you wanted to
rise in corporate maryer, you had to mouth some of
these preferred slogans of the left and all this stuff
that is fading. It's fading rapidly. You're seeing a lot

(01:00:08):
of I mean, I'm down here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
University of Florida, my wife's alma mater, got ninety thousand
applications to see.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
It's happening all over the southern state schools in the
wake of the protests that happened against Israel. Because people
see what, you know, they see Columbia University where my
dad actually went. They see Harvard, my dad went there too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
But anyway, they see these schools kind of funny side note,
and they're not impressed, and they realize it's not some
key to a successful life and that there are a
lot of ways to do what you want to do
without necessarily having to kiss the ring of the establishment
left the same way. I'm not saying it's gone, but
it has changed. It has changed dramatically, you know. And

(01:00:50):
I think a lot of parts of the economy have
opened up. I think remote work, I think virtual work.
I think all these things have changed now that elons
come along and they don't have the stranglehold over that
that they did. You don't have to play the game
the same way.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
When I went away to college, the idea that parents
in New York, LA Chicago would be sending their kids
to southern colleges would have been a crazy argument to make.
My sister went to Davidson, and I encouraged her to
do it, and she had a great experience there, and
that was very unusual for a New Yorker. Now, New
Yorker's Davidson, UNC, Chapel Hill, Vanderbilt. You uf, these kinds

(01:01:28):
of schools are completely in one. Oh yeah, flooded the
University of Tennessee. You used to have to have a
basically like a heartbeat and they would.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Admit you they have like a twenty percent of mint.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Right now, because so many kids are trying to flood
in from other parts of the country because sanity doesn't
exist in many of these left wing cities and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
They want their kids to go to an actual college.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Look, we got an awful news that has been coming
out of Israel. If you've been paying attention, we'll probably
have to talk about it on Thursday or Friday. The hostages,
many of them have been murdered and bodies are being
returned on a daily basis right now in Israel, and
it is brutal to see. And unfortunately it is going

(01:02:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
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