Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Feb 20 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of
you hanging out with us as we are rolling through
here on the Thursday edition of the program. One month
in to Trump two point zero and it has gone
better than I think anyone could have ever anticipated. A
bunch of news stories that are coming down right as

(00:26):
we start off the program today.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let me hit several of those for you.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who has been voting against
almost everyone that Trump is putting forward as a cabinet nominee,
has announced that he will not be running for reelection
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I would expect.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
That you will hear from Daniel Cameron, friend of the show,
that he will have Senate plans. There may be others
they that will to fill that seat, but Mitch McConnell
just in the last few minutes announcing he will not
be seeking re election in twenty twenty six. So Kentuckians,
you are on the clock with a Senate open seat

(01:12):
that will be coming down.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The pike next year. So that is out there.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We also expect that Cash Patel, friend of the show,
has been on several times Cash in the Bank today
in the Bank indeed is going to be confirmed around
one forty five Eastern is the expectation right now that will,
I think, basically put a bow on the entirety of

(01:41):
Trump's nominees because nobody is going to get shot down.
It appears we continue to Howard Lutnik was confirmed the
other day as Commerce Secretary. G Linda McMahon I think,
was just confirmed at the Department of Education. Trump is
going to run the table. Other than the Matt Gates
announcement which was pulled, every single Trump nominee who went

(02:04):
before the Senate committees as a nominee is going to
be confirmed, and Cash Ptel is kind of going to
put the bow on the Christmas present there to finish
the entirety of the cabinet universe. Also, there are reports
Buck that six thousand IRS agents are going to be

(02:26):
fired today. That may be happening as well as Trump
works to streamline the government and maybe holds IRS agents
accountable for the amount of money that they've had spent.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
You can just start the countdown clock until you have
Chuck Schumer and AOC going on TV to be like.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
What will we do without our beloved irs agents, no doubt.
Good luck with that one.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That is going to be really interesting to see, sad
news and we'll probably we'll talk about this. The Hamas
terrorist returned by that they have kidnapped and murdered to Israel,
and many people showed up. If you haven't seen the videos,
it's disgusting, good and evil Israel. They kidnapped these babies

(03:11):
on October seventh, legitimate babies, killed them, and then celebrated
the return of their bodies today to to Israel.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
We'll talk to Carol Markowitz about that in some detail
in the third hour. It's just exactly what Clay said,
which is this shows the extreme juxtaposition between the moral
obligations and capacity of the Israelis and the lack thereof
on the side of Hamas and the Palestinians of Gaza.
There is no world in which the Israeli government would

(03:45):
have custody of a Palestinian baby, first of all as
a hostage, but correct, there's no world in which a
Palestinian baby would be in the care of the Israeli
government and it would be killed and then paraded around
in a tiny coffin. One side of this conflict is evil,
and that is the reality.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Much less serious, but a lot of fun tonight, Buck,
and we'll have some discussion of this during the course
of the show. A lot of people I bet that
are listening to us right now, maybe not even usual
hockey fans, are going to be watching USA Canada hockey.
It's an even game, fifty to fifty in the betting markets,

(04:26):
the anticipated outcome. It's taking place in Boston tonight, and
President Trump just sent the following message, which we can
have some fun with.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Buck.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'll be calling our great American hockey team this morning
to spur them on towards victory tonight against Canada, which,
with far lower taxes and much stronger security, will someday,
maybe soon, become our cherished and very important fifty first state.
I will be speaking before the governors tonight in DC

(04:56):
and will sadly therefore be unable to attend. We will
all be watching, and if Governor Trudeau would like to
join us, he would be most welcome. Good luck to everybody,
and have a great game tonight. So exciting, President Donald J.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I mean that is a work of art, so Trump
will not be at the game. It is a big
game USA Canada. They booed our national anthem and then
we kicked their ass in Montreal, I believe it was.
And now we're playing in Boston to win this sort
of Nation's Cup challenge, and I think it'll be one
of the most watched hockey games of the year, certainly,

(05:35):
but probably one of the most watched hockey games of
the last ten years or so.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I have not seen a hockey game in a long time.
The last hockey game I saw, I believe, was the
movie Miracle, which producer Mark on our show told me
to watch because he was shocked that I had not
seen it. It was good, but that game was in
the nineteen eighties. So I'm not really up on the
latest with the hockey, but I do love the Trump
trolling and I just had one thing to the news

(06:01):
item list because I think this is very interesting and
you're going to see a lot of conversation about this,
the implications of it on the right among conservatives. The
State Department has now officially designated the following as foreign
terrorist organizations. TRENDA, Aragua, MS thirteen, Sinaloa, Cartel, Jalisco, New

(06:21):
Generation Cartel, United Cartels, Northeast Golf, and Mikuakan Family Cartels Clay.
That's all of the Mexican narco trafficking major players. And
that designation now means that executive authorities that could be
used against say and Isis sell somewhere and al Qaeda

(06:43):
cell somewhere can be used against cartel members. It also
means they can go after their finances and things much
more aggressively, which I think that should happen and will happen.
But there will be conversations now, both in public and
behind closed doors about will there be any kinetic act
taken against cartels in Mexico. A lot of Trump voters,

(07:03):
a lot of Trump supporters, very very much feel that
it's the right thing to do, even with the I
believe considerable challenges that come up with it, but and
the the risks that come from it. But we have
almost one hundred thousand people. It's about one hundred thousand
people dying from drug overdoses year in and year out,
and almost all of it is coming across our southern border.

(07:24):
So how many lives do we want to continue to
lose in the drug war.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean, I also think the geopolitics of this are
super intriguing because a part of me thinks that Shinbaum,
the President of Mexico, might actually welcome this because they
are so overrun by the cartels and their power extends
to such high levels. I would imagine of Mexican government

(07:49):
in so many of these different locations that I wonder
whether Mexico even has the ability or wherewithal to actually
do anything to the cartels.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I think the history of the cartels in Mexico that
we've seen so far suggests that their influence in the government.
Their penetration of Mexican law enforcement, from the local sheriff
and beat cop, if you will, of small towns all
the way up to more national police and Mexican military,
is substantial. Their intelligence networks stretch far. Remember, they have

(08:24):
billions and billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
At their disposal.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So people forget sometimes that when the Taliban was doing
what it did in Afghanistan, I know, it's a very
different human terrain. They controlled, for a period of time
a huge majority of the global opium poppy trade, and
that's how they were funding at a lot of their activities, right,
So narco trafficking and terrorist organizations. This was true also
of the farc in Colombia. You got to have somebody

(08:51):
to pay. You got to pay your pay, you your mercenaries,
your soldiers whatever you want to call them, your terrorists,
and you got to buy the guns and the munitions
and everything else.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And drugs plays big role in that.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
So there are some similarities between other conflicts that we've
had and what this would look like the differences is
right next door to us. But some people are arguing
very very vocally Clay that means that it's that much
more important.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So we should be far more.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Willing to spend blood and treasure to knock down the
cartels a few pegs than some of these foreign interventions
we've had on the military side.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And that's why I wonder whether Mexico may complain about
US assets rating their citizens, but a part of them
actually does welcome the United States doing this because they
don't want to do it themselves. I don't know if
I tell you the craziest that I've ever heard about Mexico,

(09:44):
and it was told to me by a former US
ambassador in Mexico on Hill TV, But I think this
just sets the context for what's really going on there.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
The for.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Serious crimes, so the equivalent of felonies whatever they call them.
You know, in Mexican code, Mexican low the expected conviction
rate is three percent, unbelievable, three percent everybody. So when
you talk when you talk about like rule of law, yes,
you know, generally Mexico City, they're very safe parts of Mexicano.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
People go on vacation and everything else.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
But in the bad areas, it's kind of no go
zone for a lot of the Mexican authorities. And people say, oh.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
No, it's not. Things are quiet there too.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yes, it's because the cops are all being paid off
by the cartels to let them do the drug. They
do just want to make money. It's not this is
the thing. There's not an ideological piece to it, the
same way there is with Taliban, Isis and these things.
But they also have tremendous resources and connectivity into the
human terrain that they're operating in because it's their home turf.
So we'll see, I know, I mean, I do think

(10:47):
Narco's in general is a great show on Netfield. I
think it's one of the best Netflix shows that's been made.
It is good background for what could be coming here.
I remember during the Bush years, during the Bush administration
with Vicente Fox, they launched essentially a war on the cartels,
and that's when you had decapitated bodies hanging from the

(11:07):
bridges and Juarez and I mean, things got completely out
of control. And over the last twenty years, the estimates
I think are anywhere from two to three hundred thousand
something like that murders, most of a cartel related, but
two to three hundred thousand murders over twenty years in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So it could get really ugly. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
But the designation of them as foreign terrorist organizations does
give more tools to the Trump administration and the toolkit
and could be, you know, indicative of a major shift.
And to your point, play, maybe the Mexican government realizes
they can't play games with Trump, so they're gonna have
to play ball and will be very different partnership than
we've seen in the past. We are We're not just

(11:44):
in the opening inning of this. This is like the
first pitch has been thrown out, so let's see where
it goes.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
So all of that is going on, there's a lot
of news will continue to track it all down for you.
I also want to play here in a little bit
when we come back. Mayor Pete, of all people, has
teed off on the Democrat Party over the way that
they are handling diversity.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Remember what might be going on here.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Mayor Pete, formerly of South Bend, Indiana, has moved to
Traverse City, Michigan, and there is talkbuck that he may
be running for the Senate from Michigan. Right now, I'm
not sure he could win in the state of Michigan,
but going after the Democrat Party and trying to run

(12:31):
towards the middle is a somewhat intriguing move for Mayor Pete.
And we'll play that audio for you where he went after. Also,
we got a bunch of fun stuff. Gail King CBS
News is a disaster. She got obliterated yesterday on CBS
this morning by the CEO of Delta when she tried

(12:51):
to blame Trump for the plane that flipped over. We
still don't know the pilots of the plane that flipped over,
do we.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
No, they have not really, And I do think this
is maybe a moment too well, yeah, this is we'll
dive into this a.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Little bit more and just a few. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I want to tell you tonight, hockey, we read
that great statement from President Trump. I know a lot
of you big fans of the Olympics, big fans of
rooting for the United States. It's gonna be a heck
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(13:29):
and catchers have reported. You might have noticed I was
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Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's a reminder.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
We've got our friends from the play and Buck network
joining in the third hour, Ryan Gradusky on the numbers,
where the Republicans are, where the Democrats are, how these
policies are looking to the American people thus far. We've
also got Carol Mark Whi's joining us. She'll be discussing
the situation in Israel and with hamas the war, the

(14:36):
return of hostages now the return of some dead hostages,
including to babies. We will have that discussion with Carol
in the third hour of the program. In the meantime,
we have some very good commentary from Jadvans. I have
to say that speech I rarely say to you because
we bring you the highlights of different policy speeches and

(14:58):
things here on the show. It's one of our value ads.
If you will will tell you, hey, here's the most
important stuff that Trump said. Because Clay and I are
always sitting there watching these things. Show's over, we're watching morning,
we wake up, we're watching and looking at the transcripts
and our team doing the same here on radio to
pull the best stuff for you. But I thought the
twenty minute jd Evan's speech that he gave in at

(15:19):
the Munich Security Conference last week was worth it for
anybody who wants to know where this administration stands on
national security and also just how the free world is
doing these days and the sense that we have that
Europe has abandoned its post in many ways, well in
many ways. Yeah, I was gonna say on the free

(15:40):
speech issue, but really just a band that it's post
on a whole range of things that is important to us.
People were asking Clay yesterday. We got a few emails,
why are you guys talking about Europe and now what's
going on here?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Why is the Vice President of the United States in
Europe and talking about the relationship between the two things,
Because especially when you're talking about security cooperation, it's important
what our European allies and partners are doing, what NATO
is doing matters. But beyond that, the the sense that
we see of what's going on over there is very

(16:12):
much tied to what's trying what some people are trying
to have happen here. And that's it's a warning, guys,
it's they're already they already have Zamian police in Germany
knocking on doors, and in the UK you could say Oh,
Germany is different and look what happened to them in
the twentieth century. All right, look at the United Kingdom, UK,
Canada and Australia are our closest allies full stop. Okay,

(16:34):
in the world for the United States. We'll get to
the Canada. I was gonna say football hockey thing here
in a second. A lot of you VIP's writing in
on that, but at all this matters to us. The
future of Western civilization matters to us. And Donald Trump
taking up the mantle with his with his team with
JD Vance in defense of it and explaining why it
is so important is critical. Here he is to that

(16:57):
end at Sea Pack with the Political Action Conference today
in DC.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
This is cut two.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
He is imploring the world and the American people to
follow Donald Trump's lead on these issues.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Play it if we don't allow free speech.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
And of course, the Biden administration I made this point, Mercedes.
The Biden administration did more to destroy free speech, not
just in the United States but also in Europe than
any administration in American history.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I'm not even blaming the Europeans.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
I'm actually saying you follow the lead of Joe Biden
into censorship and mass migration.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Follow the lead of Donald J.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Trump, and that's free speech, borders, and sovereignty.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
That is the future for our shared civilization.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think it's well pook lay.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I also think jd Vance is a different caliber of intellect.
There are some guys and gals that you meet in
politics that are really smart. There are a lot of
people who who are not very smart. And I think
jd Vance is an eloquent defender of trump Ism, better

(18:08):
sometimes than Trump is.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
If you go back and watch the vice.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Presidential debate, jd Vance articulated Trump's vision in that debate,
I think better than Trump ever articulated it in any
of his debates. And that's why I'm optimistic going forward.
We were talking about the bench that Democrats have for
twenty twenty eight and it's super exciting the first month

(18:32):
of Trump and we want to get the one big,
beautiful bill passed in the House and the Senate and
have all that action undertaken as it pertains to the
budget and the border and all of those aspects that
are so integral. But as we have said on this show,
and we're going to keep saying it, no one president
can fix everything that's wrong with this country right now

(18:53):
in a four year term. I don't think you can
fix it in an eight year term. I think you
have to stack multiple operation tunities to win together in
order to fully change the trajectory of the country. And
so as important as Trump's win in twenty twenty four is,
and as spectacular as his first month in office has
been as well, you have to be able to make

(19:16):
this change permanent. And we know because unfortunately we saw
it in twenty twenty. If Democrats win in twenty twenty
nine and come back into office, get inaugurated, they'll sit
down and undo much of what Trump tried to do.
It's why Congress needs to pass a lot of these
bills to make it such that it's way harder to

(19:37):
actually reverse what Trump is doing. By the way, we've
got a good cut of jd Vance also taking a
shot at CNN humorous way to score political points as well. Guys,
let's play that one of jd Vance talking about CNN's audience.
When you're looking at this list after list after list, what.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Stands out to you, well, speak of the press, I
do think that we've had maybe more executive orders than
CNN has viewers night. So hello to our friends at CNN.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
And look, it's a great line, but it also goes
to the failure of the legacy media Buck to be
able to set the agenda. In fact, they're flailing all
over themselves. This is the cut that I wanted to
play yesterday. We still don't know exactly what happened with
the airplane that flipped over in Toronto, the Delta Airlines

(20:31):
flight from Minneapolis. But Gail King yesterday morning on CBS
This Morning, CBS News just continues to embarrass itself. Buck
went after Trump for the reason that this Delta Airlines
flight turned over that had the crash, and the CEO

(20:51):
of Delta at Bastion was on and this blew up
in Gail King's face.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Listen to this cut.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
The Trump administration recently fired many employees of the FAA administration.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Cuts.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Do those cuts weary you? And do you think that
impacts the safety? I know you just said it's the
safest way to travel, but after looking at all these mishaps,
a lot of people are very nervous. Do these cuts
affect you?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
The cuts do not affect us.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
Scale I've been in close communication with the Secretary of Transportation.
I understand that the cuts at this time are something
that are raising questions, but the reality is there's over
fifty thousand people that work at the FAA, and the cuts,
I understand we're three hundred people and they were in
non critical safety functions. The Trump administration has committed to

(21:38):
investing deeply in terms of improving the overall technologies that
are used in the air traffic control systems and modernizing
the guys. They've committed to hiring additional controllers and investigators
and safety investigators. So no, I'm not concerned with that
at all.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, that is an example of something that just
blew completely up in Gail King's face. She was going
to score political points against Trump. Instead, Buck, the CEO
of Delta, basically gave a full throated endorsement of Trump,
of Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary, and of how confident

(22:14):
he is that things are actually going to be getting better.
And I think, you know, in law they always say
don't ask questions you don't know the answer to when
you've got a witness on the stand, and Gail King,
I think just walked right into that one. But it's
just furtherance of the CBS News overall brand, lighting itself

(22:35):
on fire in every direction. We started off this week
talking about Margaret Brennan saying free speech caused the Holocaust,
and then CBS News sixty minutes going for the meme arrests,
and now this it's.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
A series of unforced airs.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And when you see that they've built the entirety of
the anti Trump opposition on quicksand, which is what happened
in this election. This is unsurprising. They their own side.
They told the Democrats that Donald Trump was and we
know it's like boring now and repetitive, isn't it even
say these things that he's hitler, he's a fascist, he's

(23:08):
a threat to democracy, he's a criminal, he's all these
different he's a white supremacists, all these things that they've said,
and now got he got elected again by even more
than the first time. And the Democrats are scrambling to
even mount some kind of a credible narrative in opposition
to his presidency. It's not even there right now. They

(23:31):
exhausted themselves with the hysteria. Now maybe they'll find some
other way to remount a hysterical campaign, but really, what
they should do is find places on policy to disagree
that normal people can say, I don't like this what
Trump is doing because of X, Y or Z. The
challenge with that, and we're seeing it is so far

(23:54):
the issues that he is tackling are those where there's
really a sixty forty split across lines, with the American
people strongly supporting him. So the opposition is almost nonexistent
right now. You don't have anybody coming forward to say
anything of any substance against Donald Trump. And then on
the cultural side of things, This is also from JD.

(24:15):
Vance because Clay, we're talking about this cut three. We
were talking about the message to men from the Democrat
Democrat Party, and this is very important. They the Democrats
can't pivot back toward young men, and it's apt ways,
young men of all colors, all religions, all right. They
can't pivot back to young men without abandoning some of

(24:38):
the precepts they've set up and placating the angry feminist left,
you know, the sort of the liberal woman archetype that
has become really, in so many ways the core of
the Democrat Party. So they're stuck in a difficult position.
Vance realizes that here's JD Vance's message to young men
play through.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
My message to young men is I think that our
culture sends a message to young men that you should
suppress every masculine urge. You should you should try to
cast aside your family, You should try to suppress what
makes you a young man in the first place.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
And I think that my.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Message to young men is, don't allow this broken culture
to send you a message that you're a bad person
because you're a man, because you like to tell a joke,
because you like to have a beer with your friends,
or because you're competitive.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
How crazy is it buck that this could be an
actual talking point because Democrats have so alienated the average
mail voter.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's not just a time. I think it's a huge time.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean it's It has become a core fundamental difference
in political philosophy cultural philosophy between the two parties. The
Republican Party is now the Hey, you're a young man
who wants to pursue drive, ambition, courage, honor, success, and

(26:03):
want encouragement for that and want, you know, to funnel
that into positive things. The Republican Party is your party.
You're a young man who wants to feel bad about yourself,
who wants to talk about toxic masculinity, who wants to
say he's a male feminist, who wants to say there's
you know, thirty seven genders and announces his pronouns.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
The Democrats are there waiting for.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You, yes, And that's why I think twenty twenty eight
it's only going to continue to get worse. And we
had this debate right after November fifth, We said, are
Democrats going to be rational and are they going to
look in the mirror and are they going to acknowledge
that the reason they lost wasn't because their message didn't

(26:42):
get out. Remember, Kamala Harris had one point five billion
dollars to spend in one hundred days. Basically, they spent
way more money than Trump. It wasn't that their message
didn't get out, it's that America rejects their message. And
that kind of sol awareness would have potentially led them
to a remade party. Instead, they're doubling and tripling down

(27:07):
on Kamala lost because of sexism. Kamala lost because of racism,
toxic masculinity, and I think that it is going to
lead them into any even more disastrous era because I
think a lot of young men are over the BS
and I think a lot of white, Black, Asian Hispanic men.
And guess what, a lot of women are over it too.

(27:29):
Women don't want to be with wimpy men. By and large,
they don't want to have effeminate husbands. They don't want
to have relationships with the beta male white dude. For
Harris Democrat contingent, they knew that.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
They had this problem, Clay.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
The Democrats knew it before the election, which is why
they had Tim Waltz walking around holding a shotgun upside
down and dressed like he had just bought his first
car heart jacket from Kmas whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
They iagnose the problem.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
The problem is they don't even know what men are
like Tim Walls. I think I made this analogy on
the show. If I didn't, Tim Walls is like the
Steve Carell character and forty year old virgin talking about
what he likes about sleeping with women. They are so
unable to experience what men are actually like that the

(28:21):
Democrat Party thought Tim Walls was their answer. He's the
guy that gets picked when you know you have a problem,
but you lack the ability to understand what a normal
guy is like, and we talked about this as soon
as he was picked.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I said, they tried to.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Call him coach Walls, They tried to have him play
AOC and Madden, and ultimately he was weird. Remember he
got picked because he said Republicans are weird. This is
a weird, dude. Think about this.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
They knew they needed to address this, and they couldn't
even come up with a credible, token masculine Democrat for
the election. You know, it's not even like this is
representative of their party. They couldn't even come up with
a guy at the national level that could represent Democrats
as a normal masculine man. Yeah, they didn't have one

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whether or not to boo the Canadian national anthem tonight
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Speaker 2 (30:50):
John, this is very funny, John says, don't boo Cana's
national anthem. Instead chant fifty one fifty one fifty one.
And I think that's a very funny idea.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
John, Not exactly a call for sp sportsmanship, a call
for more funny trolling. Does this meet your school marmish expectations, Buck,
as in terms of behavior? Would that be okay to
chant fifty one fifty I think John would get detention.
I think John would have to be in detention for this.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
All right, We're gonna bring in our friend Ryan Gurdusky
and the Clay and Buck podcast network in a moment.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
But I did want to play.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
This is Caroline Levitt, just moments ago cut thirty one
from the White House.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
He looks forward to watching the game tonight, and we
look forward to the United States feeding were soon to
be fifty first state Canada.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Very funny trolling from Caroline Levitt, who has a great
sense of humor from New Hampshire, by the way, and
the Granite Staters are very proud of her. We bring
in now our good friend Ryan Gerdusky affectionately the Data Nerd,
a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, and

(31:58):
we wanted to get you on to talk about one
month into the Trump term.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
What the data is looking like. So let's start here, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are you surprised, purely from a you know, just kind
of analytics perspective, by how much ground Democrats have given
Trump to go after, whether it's men and women, sports,
whether it's going after waste and fraud in the government.
How much ground they've given him that is actually very,

(32:26):
very popular with large swaths of the American voting public, Democrat,
Republican and independent. Does it seem like a calculated error
by you on the side of the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
I talked to actually Marjorie Taylor Green on my podcast
on your network, Numbers Game on the iHeart Network, and
we talked a bit about how the conversation around DOGE,
especially is two separate conversations people are having, and the
concern over spending over deficit, spending over the debt kind
of supersedes that over data and protection. And Elon Musk

(32:59):
now Elon mush is not a popular figure in almost
every single poll. Most Americans do not like Elon and
they feel very uncomfortable with how much influenced Elon has,
but that has not affected Trump himself. Trump is at
his most popular he's ever been in the new C
and M poll that came out today, is at forty
seven percent favorability fifty one percent unfavorable, which is not bad.

(33:20):
It's five points better than it was in twenty seventeen
at the same exact time, and that is primarily because
younger people have a nine point bounce in favorability towards Trump,
Minorities have a significant bounce towards Trump, and men have
a significant increase support for Trump. So all three of
those things, He's just really changed the path for which

(33:41):
they have And I think that I think that where
Democrats are is that they don't have it. One they
don't have a central messenger, and two they don't have
a central message and having Chuck Schumer and Maxine Waters,
you know, grabbing their canes screaming out in the public,
and you know for USAIDEA program no one knew about
a year ye and a half ago or even a
month and a half ago. They it's not really that

(34:05):
appealing to them, and the conversation over a bad spending
your treadmills for shrimp or whatever they're spending money on
really supersedes a lot of their concerns. Is they don't
have a central concern.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Hey, Ryan, good to have you with us as always,
and congrats on the success of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
The thank you who listened, love it. It's been great.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
The numbers game, so it seems like everything Trump is
doing so far, border does stuff, the cutting falls pretty
close into a sixty forty or something along those lines.
A polling breakdown, what is the what is the you
think the next important move for the administration? What are

(34:44):
some of the things that have been discussed that are
on the near horizon that could continue to just rack
up the wins because it is in fact the case
that we are not tired of winning.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Well, the most popular thing, believe or not in polling
for that Trump has done is the girls men and Girls' Sports.
I mean it is wildly popular, even among polls that
have oversampled I think democrats in the independent category or
liberals in the independent category. Wildly popular. On immigration, it's
pretty good on even on tariffs, which have overwhelming negative

(35:17):
news coverage, It's not that bad. The only negative thing
that they have, really have that Democrats have that is
actually getting some traction is elon Musk News and that's
why I think you're going to hear a lot more
of it, and he will be the central character more
so than even Donald Trump himself as far as attack goes.
When it comes to Trump, the economy has to be

(35:37):
the next thing because that's actually where a lot of
people are waiting for this magical recovery to start. And
inflation numbers are still modely high. Obviously it's only been
a month, so I'm not blaming Donald Trump for that,
But this major tax budget that's coming out that's supposed
to sit there and reduce and tax on tips, and
tax and overtime and tax on social security, that may

(36:00):
be a big boost the middle class and the working class.
And if that happens, and that's I think the central
thing that Trump's is there and rallies around, but that
is really where he's got to get more of a
more of control over his death economy because it was
his strongest issue going into this election, and or second
strongest immigration, but one of his strongest issues going to
this election, and he's really got to make good on it,

(36:22):
and a lot of is out of his hands, like
the egg the price of eggs because of you know,
the even flu. But he's got to sit there and
start really lean heavily into it. And the economy should
be stronger on his list according to most of these polls,
and it's not, and part of it's out of his hands,
but he's got to really really increase the effort.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Just real quick, Ryan, I think in the team fact
check me on this if I'm incorrect. With the Cash
Betel voting has been happening, and I think Mitch McConnell
just voted yes on cash. We had been told that
it was going to be a no or that was
the reporting. How do you see the positioning of some
of these senators who have been racalcitrant about some of
Trump's nominees up to this point.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
You know they've some of them have gone with it,
some of them haven't.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
I guess, you know, for Maine, it's the best we
can do to have Susan Collins the way she is.
But how do you see the way the Senate has
responded to these these nominations so far? And what do
you think about if cash gets Mitch voting for him.
Is that a surprise to you.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
Yeah, I was actually surprised by that information. I mean,
Susan Collins, I think, is the only Republican who voted
to know the first time around. And Collins did vote
for Toulci. She did vote for RFK. She has a
really good relationship with Senate Vice President jd. Vance when
they were senators together. So Van's really trying to meet
with her and help with getting Tolsi over the finish line.

(37:40):
I think made a big impact. McConnell also has to
say this is his last term. No one is surprised
by that. He's had a lot of health issues, and
I'm not you know, ash and ill for that, but
he has had a lot of health issues. I think
that I think that McConnell's making his legacy right now,
and he's hoping that his legacy is that he will
be the voice of reason in an era of MAGA

(38:00):
when the history books are written. I think that is
what he's hoping his legacy will be. And you know,
he doesn't like Donald Trump. He's never liked Donald Trump,
and he's come out on the losing side of the
Republican political revolution. So he's doing what he thinks is
his last Dan Curtis is a very moderate Republican. He'll
probably be the leader of that. This is Curtis. Senator

(38:21):
Curtis is from Utah. He took over from Mitt Romney.
Lisa Murkowski is Lisa Murkowski. No one particularly cares for her,
but even Senator Cassidy, who voted to impeach Donald Trump,
has voted for all of his people. Now that he's
going into a very tough reelection fight that he's not
doing very well in the early polling for so, I
think a lot of it is sitting there and saying

(38:42):
we have to capitulate, we have to work. I mean,
it's it would not be shocking actually if we turn
back time and Matt Gates sat instead in the position,
if he would have actually gone through by how much
people have sat there and changed their minds and capitulated
towards getting trump'st the administration that he wants cash Bettell,
you know, he did a lot. He said, he was
on a lot of cookie podcasts in twenty twenty one,

(39:04):
twenty going on. But he has a very very astounding
career in the FBI. So maybe him McConnell had a
meeting and he told him his his credentials and that
was enough to win McConnell over.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
We're talking to Ryan Gardeski.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Ryan, big discussion of late about the Democrats hemorrhaging support
with men. You mentioned the transsports issue that as men
identifying as women, men are like ninety ten on that
ninety five to five. But CBS even had it, and
I had not seen this in a long time. They

(39:37):
had Trump plus twenty in male approval rating sixty forty.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
How much of it?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And you may have seen me talking about this last
week at the University of Chicago. How concerned do you
think Democrats should be about their loss of support among
male voters.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
I mean, they have a Democrats have a fundamental branding problem,
and it's a branding problem where they are the HR Party.
They're the ones who are going to turn you in
for you know, anything you possibly do wrong. It is
it is a it is a cultural loss the likes
we haven't seen in decades. I mean it's probably since

(40:15):
I was a child, where a lot of the cultural
influence is coming from conservatives and from Republicans, and there
is a general sense of defeat and a general sense
of eye rolling when they talk about things like DEI
or the Future's female, or just constant nagging like they
are the Party of nagging. There's been so many clips
of side by sides of like female journalists or female

(40:37):
Democratic senators yelling at Republican senators or Jdvans when he's
on with on CBS, and you just sit there and
every man can sit there and say, yeah, I've had
that kind of moment. God, is it annoying. I think
that that is. I think that that is part of
their problems as a brand and as a party brand.
And I don't think that AOC is the salvation for it.

(40:59):
And David Hogg is not the answer for it. Maybe
John Fetterman is. I'm not even making a joke, but
it's who has come up and asked to lead the
party is not that. And the central problem that Democrats
have had for a long time, in the last like
ten to fifteen years is the people that they've had
to replace, the Nancy Pelosis and the Stenny Hoyters and

(41:21):
the Jim Clyburns. Therefore the most part insane, like they
went to the Men's Institution as their reinforcements, and that's
who they have to lead the party. The leaders, don't
the next generation leaders. It's not Josh Gottheimer, you know,
the head of the mainstream Democrats in New Jersey. It
is the aocs and the ilan Omars and the people

(41:41):
who really are You know, if you think the Democratic
Party was radical under Nancy Pelosi, you haven't seen anything yet.
So until you get a hold of that, and until
Central Central's Democrats are voting in primaries and huge numbers
to really of upset that and kick out the loudest
voice in the room, don't know. You know, a BuzzFeed
culture is not the one that's going to sit there

(42:03):
and lead the Democratic Party to salvation. And that's who
they have as their next leaders.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Ryan's podcast is It's a numbers game. It's up in
the Clay and Buck podcast network.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Gotsh it All. Check it out.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
He has a great data break down, a lot of
political analysis. Ryan knows the ins and outs of that
backwards and forwards Ron before we let you go. Clay
loves to make far out predictions and we have to
always flag it and see he has predicted that right
now based on what we're.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Seeing Michelle Obama. No, no, no, don't worry. He was
wrong on that one.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, I haven't let him forget I said, no more,
Michelle Obama talk. No one's allowed to say Oprah is
gonna run like these We've heard this before. It's not
gonna happen, he says Cuomo right now, Andrew Cuomo for
twenty twenty eight after he becomes mayor in New York?
Do you agree with that? Is that insane? And who
do you think is going to emerge? And I know

(42:58):
we're going way out in the future here, but just
kind of curious what we'll make a note of this.

Speaker 8 (43:02):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think so. I mean, I like, listen,
I don't. I have a tougher time thinking the Democratic
Party is going to become the party of white men
than they are going to stop nominating women. It's just
the functionality of the party. Maybe Andrew Cuomo could do it,
but I don't know. I mean, I I don't. I
have a hard heard sense of that. He is a
disgrace from our governor. He's running for mayor. He may

(43:22):
be mayor, but a New York City mayor. The last
four have either talked about running for president or have
ran for president, all remarkably unsuccessfully.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
If if you, if you, Ryan, if you had to
abandon all of your principles and run a campaign for
a Democrat in twenty twenty eight based on the field
right now, who would it be?

Speaker 8 (43:42):
Wes Moore? From the governor and Wes Moore.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
That's what we've talked. We have discussed.

Speaker 8 (43:48):
Yeah, Wes Moore government, very very very very like good candidate,
strong candidate, you know, not some the issues, but good candidate. Actually,
next Monday, when my podcast drops, I have a whole
episode on the business of camp campaigns and the business
of politics.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
What it actually run run for office?

Speaker 8 (44:04):
You really really enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, well check it out. I mean that's stuff that
people really need to know. I'm going to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Quo no doubt.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
One last question here for you, Ryan, I encourage everybody
to go subscribe to the podcast. You can find it
in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Do you think
Kamala has a viable political future going forward? We were
talking about this, debating this earlier in the show. What
happens with Kamala next? I know she signed with CIA.
She's gonna make a lot of money giving speeches, but

(44:31):
does she run for governor? Does she think that she
has a chance in twenty eight? Do you think where
do we go from here with Kamala?

Speaker 8 (44:39):
I mean the joke in me sincar and says her
futures at AA. But I mean the real the thing
is I think that she has no, she doesn't have
a future.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
She lost.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
She is like did John Kerry have a future in
two thousand and four? I mean that's literally like sitting saying, hey,
you know, should run in two thousand and eight John Kerry,
Like no, It's over, like put a pin. I have
a hard time seeing Democrats who run a woman for
president for the next decade. The last two did not
go well for them and it led to Donald Trump.

(45:08):
Who is their most hated persons is Richard Nixon. I
don't see how they're going to nominate another woman. So
Gretchen Whitmer, with all the plastic surgery she's done, I
think it was old waste. I don't see how they're
gonna nominate it. I think it's going to be a man.
I would put my money either on Josh Shapiro, Wes
Moore and Wes Moore and more likely because he's black,
Joshapiro is Jewish, which creates a ton of problems. Also,
if anyone has a tape of Joshapiro pre two thousand

(45:31):
and eight and when he started speaking like Obama, I
would love to know what he actually sounds like, because
I've never met a Jew from the suburbs who talks
like a black pastor before.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
But that's Josh.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
Shapiro the But that's who I would put my money on.
They're going to sit there and pick a centrist Democrat man.
They're not going to pick a woman, and they're not.
I don't have a hard time it's gonna pick white guy.
It's a party that has told white men forever you
are the problem behind every civilizational you know, issue and problematic.
You're problematic, you're problematic, You're problematic. I don't see how
they're going to to.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Get the rest of it. We've got to go to
Ryan's podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It's a numbers game of the clan Buck Network. Ryan Gerdusky,
great to have you, we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Thank you.

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Now, Cash Pateel has been confirmed as the next director
of the FBI. Fifty one to forty nine vote. Lisa
Murkowski and Susan Collins, the two Republican senators who voted
against Cash Bettel. I'll just say this as we bring
in our friend, Carol Markowitz. I understand Susan Collins. She's

(48:09):
in Maine. It is a state that Trump has never won.
It is a state that would be hard for a
Republican to win. She has to balance all of that,
and she's up for reelection in twenty twenty six. Lisa Murkowski,
what are you doing Alaska? Why do you have a
state that Trump won overwhelmingly, a senator that is refusing

(48:32):
to support many of the nominees that Trump has put forward.
I think Alaska could do better, let me just say it,
than Lisa Murkowski. We bring in now Carol Markowitz. Carol,
we got a lot to talk about with you, but
I want to start with sadly the awful, the awful
video we saw of true babies that have been killed

(48:56):
kidnapped by Hamas and the reaction as those caskets were
turned over to the people of Israel. You've talked a
lot about your reaction to October seventh.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
And you're a mom of three.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I imagine that that was devastating to watch and see
what is actually still the consequences are October seventh, to
kill true babies and hold them hostage is beyond the pale.
It really is.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
And thank you so much for having me on. I
have two little redheaded boys myself. I have felt the
pain of the Babes family the whole time. Just horrific
to know what they went through and what their last
moments were. Probably, Like, I think, anybody, whether or not
you have children, anybody human should understand that this was

(49:44):
not something that happens in war. You know, my nine
year old last year said to me something like, why
doesn't Israel just kidnap the Palestinian children and then you
know they can salt to them? Because Israel would never
do that. That's why it's something that would only only
monsters would do that. And an important part to understand
is that it wasn't Hamas who kidnapped that family. It

(50:06):
was normal gossens who had broken through the fence and
stole these children, you know, in their pajamas from their
home with their mom. And it was you know, what
people call normal Palestinians who are not Hamas. And still
this is what happened, so very tragic day. I think
a lot of us knew that it was heading in
this direction, but still just the sadness and the anger

(50:29):
today is palpable.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
So, Carol, I guess now we should just expect that
the very zealous pro Hamas pro Palestinian wing of the
Democrat Party in this country is just going to be
quiet about this for the next few days. Because it
seems to me that in any circumstance, when you have

(50:54):
an entity, whether it's a government, a terrorist group, anything,
that kidnaps literal baby and then kills them, I mean,
refrains from or refuses to keep them alive while in
their custody as hostages, you couldn't have a more clear
depiction of the active decision to conduct evil. And I

(51:17):
just feel like this should be something that every person
who's been out there crying about the devastation of buildings
in Gaza should have to answer for. Why shouldn't Gaza
be raised to the ground if Hamas is going to
conduct terrorist attacks that include the kidnapping and decision to

(51:38):
murder babies in their custody.

Speaker 9 (51:41):
Yeah, well that's again, that's the whole thing with noting
that it's everyday Palestinians who did this, because the argument
usually goes, look, the Palestinians don't want Hamas in charge,
they have no choice. This is not them, This is
only a terrorist group. You can't blame all Palestinians for this,
But it actually was all Palestinians. And you know, people
have noted that there were Nazis who helped you know,

(52:04):
high Jews, for example, during World War Two, there were
no Palestinians who helped a single hostage here. There was
not one Palestinian who said, I'm going to take the
reward that Israel is offering that will change my family's
life forever and help return these hostages to their homes.
None of them did that. So yeah, I think what
the squad and people like that count on is a

(52:25):
short memory. Americans are very pro Israel, and it makes
sense where both you know, both countries are a civilization.
They're not backward, murderous countries that think it's okay to
kidnap children. So you know, what they have to do
is to kind of keep this quiet from Americans so
that Americans aren't enraged by the murder of two children

(52:48):
and their mother. And also today another the fourth body
coming home today is an eighty four year old man
who was a peace activist who brought Palestinians to Israel
to the hospitals for treatment because he wanted so badly
to have this peace with the Palestinians, and then they
used his peacefulness against him and murdered him. So I
think what the squad is trying to do is trying

(53:09):
to minimize the attentions of this gett and hope that
Americans don't notice. But I believe in Americans, and I
know that Americans care a lot about justice and fairness,
and I know that they stand with Israel because Israel
represents our values over there.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Carol shifting gears here a bit one month in the
Trump administration, what grade would you give them? Have you
been surprised by how quickly they've moved. How do you
think they're doing.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
I am so pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I was.

Speaker 9 (53:42):
Look, I was very excited for this administration. I early
voted for Donald Trump on day one of early voting
in Florida. I could not wait to vote for Trump fans.
I was excited about it. But they have exceeded all
of my expectations. And you know, I wrote about this
today for Fox News. But the one month anniversary, what
I really have noticed in the last month is that

(54:04):
we have a president again, and that is such a
comforting feeling. Even though I didn't like Joe Biden. I
didn't want the Joe Biden administration. The fact that he
was absent for such long periods of time and we
didn't know who was making policies or what to expect
from that administration, it's scary. And I think that what
Americans have felt in the last year and in the
last month, sorry, is a sense of comfort where we

(54:27):
know who's making policies, we know who's in charge, we
know what to expect, and that is a really important feeling.
So I've been thrilled, I mean a plus plus. I
you know, have minor quibbles with the Trump administration right
now that I can't even you know, verbalize that I
is mostly I'm very, very happy with how things are

(54:49):
going it.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Speaking to Carol Marco which she's got a podcast with
us on the Clay and Buck network and what is
the normy Mom's podcast called podcast, I have.

Speaker 9 (54:59):
Two podcas on the Clay and Buck Network. I have
the Carol Market which show which I say is my
sort of non political podcast where I ask political people
non political questions. And then I have normally that I
co hosted Mary Catherine Ham where we talk news of
the day and break it down in a humorous fashion.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Well, thank you for doing great work on that audience
really enjoying both of those shows.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
As the numbers.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Attest to Carol, I want to switch gears for a
second to New York. Actually we're doing around the world
that everyone wanted to continue New York City. So it
comes out that a couple things have happened the last
twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Trump has squashed.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Congestion pricing, which was pushed by Governor Kathy Hokeel over
the strenuous objections of many many New Yorkers, not just
Republicans or people on the right, A lot of New
Yorkers like this is nuts. And now Kathy Hokel has
also made it clear she will not just unilaterally fire
the mayor of New York City, Eric Adams. What the

(55:59):
heck is going on here? It just feels like the
Democrats can't get out of their own way in the
Empire State.

Speaker 9 (56:04):
It's amazing. So what's really interesting to me is why
would Trump care about this congestion pricing? And I think
that one of the criticisms I had of the Trump
administration last time around was that they weren't looking towards
the future, that they weren't thinking about Republican wins in
the future. And to me, this congestion pricing thing is
very much a future looking thing. This wasn't about New York.

(56:25):
This was about New Jersey. New Jersey drivers were having
to pay this congestion pricing in New York City if
they drove into the city and they were really suffering
with it. It was nine dollars is going to go
up even higher. And it's the New Jersey voter that
I think the Trump administration is courting here. New Jersey
has been kind of close in the last few elections
and there's a real chance that it can go right

(56:47):
in the future. So to me, this was a future
election vision where New Jersey can possibly be moved, and
I love it. I love everything about that. Then the
Kathi Hokal not getting rid of Eric Adams, I think
it would have been really difficult for her to do that.
He's an elected mayor, whatever you think of him, and
I happened to think he's the best of a really

(57:09):
terrible bunch in New York City. So I think if
she had gotten rid of him, I don't know how
her own political career would have survived it. And I
think that's really where she came down on this. It's
not that she cared about New York. It's not that
she cared about Mayor Adam. She was looking at her
own career and saying, where will this leave me? And
I think a lot of people would have been really,
really mad had she gotten rid of him. And then

(57:32):
Jamaine Williams, the public defender, I'm sorry, the public advocate,
would have become the mayor. And he's super far left,
you know, big on defunding the police while himself living
on a military base with full security. Of course, and
I think people would have been really pissed off. So
that's why she backed off and win win for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
We're talking to Carol Marko. It's okay, really important question
here to close out. Carol, your husband is a big
football fan. Know that you have sons who are big
fans too of sports. Will you be watching US Canada
tonight in your home, this big hockey game, and do
you have a strong take on whether I'm sure you

(58:14):
saw that Canada booed the United States national anthem on Saturday,
should we boo, meaning Boston sports fans, the Canadian national
anthem tonight?

Speaker 9 (58:26):
Well, so I would say no, we shouldn't boo because look,
it's more like we don't even think about them. Who
are they? They're not relevant to us. You know, they
think about us quite a bit, and so that's why
they boot our anthem. They're real mad at us and whatever.
Mary Catherine Ham and I talked about this on normally.
But there's nothing that Americans like more than succeeding in

(58:47):
a sport that we largely don't care about. So I'm
going to be watching this game for sure. We're going
to be rooting for America, and you know, living in Florida,
it's extra fun because Florida has had a really good
run in hockey in the last few year. Florida Panthers
have been doing great, and it's it's great because you
live in this warm climate and hockey is what we're
winning down here. So it's terrific. It's and I can't

(59:10):
wait to watch the game. No, don't believe the anthem.
Let them have this, you know again, we don't even
think of them.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
What does Canada have if we beat them in hockey? Carol, Like,
what does the whole country have to go.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Canada all day to day. I'm just saying, this is
their thing. You mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
This is not even that high of a priority for
American sports fans.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
If we take hockey from them, what do they have left?

Speaker 9 (59:33):
Yeah, that's exactly it. I don't know they have their
maple syrup, even though you know, Vermont.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Is kind of like your preacher the choir. I think
Vermont's got better maple syrup.

Speaker 9 (59:42):
Than Canada, right, So that's it. They're really they're out
of the game altogether.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
You know.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
They always It always just bother me when I would
travel and Canadians would wear the Canadian flag on their backpack,
so nobody would mistake them for American, and I'd be like,
nobody cares about you, and nobody cares if you're an American
or not, like, get over yourselves. They have this odd,
you know, nationalism that they pretend is positive but it's
really not. So I don't know, let's you know again,

(01:00:10):
let's just beat them and go home and forget about
it completely for another year, because that's how we do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I'm just agast at how many shots Canada has taken
to the face on the ice on this show today.
It's they're missing the front tooth, they got the whole
hockey thing going, they got calliflower ear.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
It's a rough day for Canada.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
But Carol Markle wit'z go check out the Carol marco
At show on the clan Buck Network and also normally
with her and Mary Catherine Ham. Great for everybody, especially
the moms and our audience.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
You will love it. Carol.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Give a big hugged to Shy from both of us
and we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
That is Carol Markowitz. She is fabulous and I think
Buck she might have been more crushing of Canada. Than me,
because I was just kind of taking shots in a
fun way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Carrol, like Mama Grizzly, she has Mamma Grizzly zone she
can go into. And when it comes to her American patriotism, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
She was just kind of clinically pointing out it's like
when you break up with somebody and you don't even
bother to care about them anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Right, Like she's like, there are you saying that America?
Is Don Draper looking at Canada saying I don't think
about you at all. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
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you watch, Guy says, hey, I'm really worried about you,
and Don Draper just says, I don't think about you
at all. Look, I'm Doun of Miami right now running around.
We got a fun dinner schedule tonight with the iHeart Crew.
But if you are out there right now, and maybe
you're gonna stay up tonight and you're gonna watch that

(01:01:36):
US Canada hockey game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
It's gonna start around eight, maybe you stay.

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