July 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Clay and Buck interview President Trump about Biden's press conference, his VP pick, Biden's cognitive issues, George Clooney and Obama backstabbing Biden, whether Kamala would be easier to beat, the Biden golf challenge and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have a fantastic guest to start us off today,
President Trump himself is joining us. Mister President, I appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So let's start with how you think it went. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway? Because the
New York Times and a lot of others seem like
they thought it could be the end, but doesn't really
seem like the end.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelenski and
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he introduced him as Vladimir Putin. That was not good.
That was unpardonable. You can't do that. You know, there
are things you can do and things you can't do.
That was a bad one. So he introduced him as
Putin and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know
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that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
was going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh, I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:01):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks, and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you, Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get antermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch you know the story does a party
you feel like, Yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
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him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
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but I start standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go last. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
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he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
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I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
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could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar these makeups. Last
night was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier on was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
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it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster. Now,
the debate was a disaster for him, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate were
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh,
do the television networks look forward to that one. But
because so.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You're willing to give him a rematch, because I actually
think that's kind of you, given the fact that you
knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike Tyson didn't
immediately say okay, getting the ring against thinks I kind
of feel like he was flat on the you know,
on the canvas, looking up at you. But that seems
kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I think we owe it maybe to the public
to do it, you know, I think you have an
obligation to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee
and you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to
an extent, we owe it to the public to do it,
if that makes sense. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Ismatch, I got Actually, I actually was suggesting yesterday maybe
you'll have a first of this that we go in together,
because I am cognitively great, perfect and I've had tests.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I do it routine, you know, whenever I do. I
just did a physical, by the way, and I came
out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon or whatever I
have to announce but but I suggest that we go
in together and do a cognitive test. We'll do cognitive tests.
We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I would do whatever they want the test, I do
mental acuity tests with him. I would do whatever whatever
it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests, they
have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I actually
feel that anybody running from not age wise. I mean
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I've spoken to, I deal with people that are much
older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Is he the matchup you.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Want on President Trump?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This is this is important. Is he the matchup you
want in terms of who is going to be on
the ballot for the Democrats at the top of this fall,
because there's reporting that your team is very pleased that
it looks like he's going to stay in. It's not
going to be common law and there's not going to
be some third option switch at the convention.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic,
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine, And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
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we going? It's going to be somebody else. I think
that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:36):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
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Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country, there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things.
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
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I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
(08:49):
right now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, I thought George Slooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice. Tone.
I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a third rate
movie actor. He was a television actor who never made
really a good movie and so he's sort of third rate.
(09:13):
He goes as a movie actor at Clark Gable, he's not.
And you know, but I thought it was I thought
it was a great actor of disloyalty. And Obama hates
Biden and Biden hates Obama. We know that because that's
been for a long time. You remember, you guys, remember
your perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary,
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not Biden. And Biden never forgot that they hate each other.
You remember when I said that Bush and Marco had
a lot of problems together and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
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going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates, actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
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he really passed in a more prime time period. But
I don't want to again, I don't want to stress
age because so many people I know, so many people
who are far older than Biden, who were so so amazing.
I speak with Rupert Murdoch a lot. I think Rupert's
ninety four and ninety five, that's right, so he's substantially older.
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He's like thirteen years older than Biden. He's he's one
hundred percent sharp. He's just start to attack President Trump.
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Are you already a point where you're willing to say
or that you feel strongly that a majority of the
American people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses
and abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
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that that hasn't worked, and if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all, you know,
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
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the head of Hungry Victor orban and very strong guy.
He was, I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our procedures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
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procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
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of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting is so different than yours. Ours is much
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Many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have.
There's no security there, very little. We're like a third
world country in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, NDAs and attorney generals
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and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice president there, You've
done a good job. I think of creating a lot
of different drama associated with who the vice president is
going to be. Can you tell us have you made
up your mind on your pick yet? And second part
of that, have you decided on how the vice president
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is going to be announced?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
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Tuesday or Wednesday, actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
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or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? And
have you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of The Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
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I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So it's still open, though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind, is
that right? You're still thinking it over.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
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He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television,
who was incredible. JD's been great. You have a man
named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota. And
you know it's a state that's very very pressed. It
was very successful and he's done a good job there.
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You have, you have some terrific people.
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of people who are feeling optimistic but also don't want
to get ahead of themselves. How should they be feeling
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as we're going into the absolute peak of this election cycle.
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen, and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
be doing a large deportation. We have no choice. They're prisoners,
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their mental institution, people from mental institutions, and you can
look all over the world where they've done this. They're
moving them into our country. They're doing it purposely the
governments of those countries, many countries, not just South America,
and their crime rates are way down. Venezuela, their crime
rate is down by seventy two percent. Wouldn't we be
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nice if we had a crime rate that went our
crime rates? Our crime rates are going up because we're
taking all these prisoners and all these people from other countries.
But you take a look at El Salvador, take a
look at these countries. Their crime rates are way down
because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers, and they're
emptying out their jails into our country. How stupid can
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we be? But I'd say, with everything, and it's so,
that's a tremendous problem that we have that we shouldn't
have had. You know, we wouldn't have had that problem,
We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine. Think about it.
You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine. There's no
way he would have done it. I had a good
relationship with both of them. You would have it wouldn't
have happened. You wouldn't have had China looking very violently
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at Taiwan. I don't see what's going to happen there.
If but could happen, they certainly, they certainly are threatening
right now. But you wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't
have inflation. You wouldn't have had the attack on Israel.
That would have never happened. Aren had no money, they
were broke with sanctions, they were literally broke. There was
no terror. I had no terror during my administration. We
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had no terror attacks. And now it's like terrible what's happening,
and all over the world. The whole world is exploding.
And Victor Orban actually said, the only thing you can
do is get Trump backed. He kept everything. I kept
things in order. You wouldn't have had all of these.
Every one of these events, including inflation, you wouldn't have
had that was caused by stupid energy policies of this administration.
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It was caused by energy, the cost of energy. So
we're going to make our country grade again. We're going
to have a big, a really big week and I
think it's going to be very inspiring. I hope so.
And we have to get back to business. We have
to get back to running the country the way it
should be. We have to stop the crime our cities are.
In Chicago, last week, one hundred and seventeen people were
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shot and seventeen died. That's a war zone. That's worse
than most war zones. You don't have that happening. That's
not happening in Afghanistan. That's not happening in other places
that you think of being a violent country. Chicago, think
of it. One hundred and seventeen people were shot over
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we're adding an extra day. Seventeen died.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here in this election, and
many people here are thinking about you, supporting you, and
praying for you as you do. So thank you so
much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Thank you, and you have a great show, and I
appreciate it, and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much, Thank you, sir.
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S Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang
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Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton, Joe
our interview with Trump. We taped it with him early
this morning. If you happen to be in your car
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and you just heard part of it and you said, hey,
I want to hear the whole thing, certainly you can
go listen on the podcast, but we're going to play
it again in the third hour for those of you
who did not hear it, because let's be honest, what
is better than hearing from Trump himself and being able
to break all of the things that are going on
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right now down buck. We'll talk about this some when
we come back at the top of the second hour,
to be certain. But I know you were watching as
well as I was the press conference yesterday of Biden.
My big takeaway. We're going to play a fun clip
for you here from Trump at a moment, but my
big takeaway from the Biden press conference yesterday was it
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was the best thing that could happen for Trump or
the Republicans because he wasn't bad enough for everybody to
just say, oh, we've got to abandon him completely, but
he wasn't good enough to alleviate or the concerns that
were arose based on his performance two weeks ago in
the debate. Is that kind of your take as well.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Look, I think he's in I think that the coup failed,
and I think one place where maybe we see it
a little differently, Clay, is I still believe that even
a very weakened uh, and frail Biden is better than
Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. And I know that people
think that that's not really possible, but I think it
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is possible.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I still think Trump's in great shape. I think
that Trump is likely to defeat Biden, but I actually
think Kamala would have been a more of a wipeout scenario.
I mean, I think or a red wave scenario for
Trump than Biden will end up being.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You know, Trump said that he said he thought that
Kamalo was easier than Biden. Now there's also strategy there, right,
because if you really thought that Biden was the weaker candidate,
you want him in, right. So I don't know what
he's playing with her some little bit say who you
know what I mean, like, Trump is the kind of
guy who I think would tell you, I don't think
he's thinking about what the reaction to.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It will be.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I truly believe that that he thinks the Kamala would
just be.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You get down to things just like name, recognition, familiarity
with the person, these things that shouldn't matter that much
in politics but actually matter a whole heck of a
lot at the national level. And Kamala Harris would have
a lot of problems, a.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Lot of problems. I think she is higher risk and
higher reward. I don't see any way that Biden can
win because of his mental and physical issues. I feel
like she might galvanize women and minorities in a way
that Biden is not. But I also agree with you
that she could fall flat on her face. I don't
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think she's a very skilled campaigner, and certainly Democrats have
rejected her before, so it wouldn't stun me if she
performed worse than Biden either. I think the way I'm
thinking of it is Biden has a lower lower ceiling,
but a higher floor. His band of performance is less substantial.
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She has a higher ceiling, but also a lower floor.
If that makes sense. Should we play by the way?
This is fun? You know, we talked about the golf challenge,
and I wanted to get President Trump breaking down in
a little bit more detail his challenge of Joe Biden
out on the golf course, which remember it's really an
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acceptance of a challenge, because Biden himself accepted it the
first place. We got some fun audio. Here's Trump analyzing
the Joe Biden golf game. Listen, last question for you,
mister president. I love the golf challenge. Buck has never
watched a golf match on television. He said he would
watch you play against Biden. Do you I love the
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twenty stroke challenge? He challenged you first, what do you
think Biden would actually shoot if he had to count
every hole? And do you think he would even be
able to finish eighteen holes or do you think they
would have to stop it and take him off because
he's not healthy enough to even finish eighteen holes? How
do you think the round would go so without Bragg?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And I'm a very good golfer. You know. I've won
club championships, many, many, many club championships, and I win
them all the time. I still win them. I play
just as good now as I did twenty years ago.
That's a good sign. That's a good physical and cognitive test,
because golf is mental also, right. But I've won many
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club championships and he cannot win a club championship, nor
can he break a hundred. There's no way he breaks
a hundred. I've seen his swing. I've never seen him play,
but I've seen his swing, and I've spoken to people
that are near to him. And he's a terrible golfer,
but he's all taught. You have to understand he is.
(29:02):
When pilots go to the White House, they say, he says, oh,
I used to fly planes. When truckers go to the
White House, he said, oh, I drove a truck everything
that anybody goes there. Well, he made the challenge to
the wrong guy in golf. I mean, I've offered him.
I give him twenty strix tennis side, I said, and
I'll give him million dollars to his charity. But they
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turned me down. They said no. Now, if he was
a six handicap, which he's not, he says six point
two because he wants to be nice and accurate. I
don't believe he could break one hundred and fifty. I've
watched his swing. I don't believe. And I break seventy
a lot, but I shoot in the low seventies and
mid seventies. And that's what you have to do. You know,
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when you play, when you win club championships, you're playing
against scratch golfers, and I often beat them. I mean
this year I won three, and I don't get to
play very much relative to a lot of these guys.
They live on the golf course, you know, so you know,
he makes a challeng and he's all talk and no action,
a nasty guy. And remember he weaponized government against me,
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and that's a very bad precedent to say, very very bad,
very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
What's fifty buck is? I think I've never played golf.
I feel like I could shoot a one fifty. I
think that I'd probably get there just I'd learn as
I go through the holes, so I figure it out.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I think a lot of people out there could play
only with a putter and be able to put up
a one to fifty, even driving with your putter. But
I again, to me, this is where Trump is at
his best in this sort of grappling match with Biden.
And even early in the interview he talked about this
(30:47):
with us that he would have laughed a little bit
if Biden had been calling him vice president. Trump sarcastically,
Trump with a lead is playing with house money, and
he's funny and he's engaging and he's using humor, and
Biden really can't respond at all. Even the idea of
having a live cognitive test on television Biden yesterday was
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really bad. I thought, relative to any other president when
you analyze his press conference performance, but he's so bad
that if he just doesn't fall and he actually can
say people's names, they give him a passing grade. It
might be the easiest passing grade we've ever given any president.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I do think we should at least give some credit
where it's due when it comes to Biden, though, I mean, Clay,
he has had the full force of the elite Democrat
machine in the media. At least say you have to
drop out, and he's just like, no, I'm not doing it.
I mean, you know, say what you will about Biden.
(31:55):
We've said a lot. This guy is so dug in
he does not care what they say. And I think
that the press conference last night, which we talked to
President Trump about was it was enough. I mean, to
your point about where the bar is, that was pretty much.
If you had told me the press conference last night
was Biden eighteen months ago or something, I would say, yeah, totally.
(32:17):
He hasn't been that different. He did even for where
he is. He had a bad night on the debate.
I was surprised a few things. He never smiled, he
never did his weird whisper thing. He never started angrily shouting. Now,
you could say that makes him seem crazy, but crazy
and senile are not the same thing, and energy makes
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it seem less like he's old and decrepit, even if
that energy is kind of a burst of rage.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, So he just he underperformed even for a guy
who is suffering from senility in the debate. And I
think that yesterday that was pretty standard Biden, and standard
Biden isn't going to go. I know everyone saying that,
Oh not everyone, but people are saying that there's a
negotiation going on to try to get him out. We've
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talked about that a little bit too, and with each
passing day, man, that negotiation, I don't know how much
higher the price can go.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You and I have talked about as people who have
done television, and also, obviously, like all of you watched
a lot of television, you can also oftentimes tell whether
someone is good at television without even hearing them speak.
And the thing that stood out to me so much
about the debate was when Biden wasn't speaking, the fact
(33:35):
that he just kind of stood there with his mouth open,
slack jawed, looking totally lost. I thought he was more
engaged on the press conference, I think probably because there
was no interruption. By and large, people ask a question
and then they just kind of let him give his
rambling soliloquies that ended so often with him saying anyway,
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and with him, like you said, leaning over and whispering
strangely and creepily into the microphone, and then this constant
thing where he has this desire to try and talk,
but he can't because he's always coughing. Like the whole
thing was not good. And if we had the standard of, hey,
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is this a good presidential communicator, he would fail on
all counts. He has now lowered the bar to such
an extent that I wonder whether he might be able
to exceed it. And this is why I asked Trump
whether it even makes sense to go out and debate
Biden again. I think the expectations are so low for
Biden that if he doesn't come out and literally die
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on the stage, Democrats come September are going to say
this was a magisterial performance. This was Lincoln at his
best in his prime against Stephen Douglas. Right, that's the standard.
Once they know he's the guy, they're going to why
and claim that he's great.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Let's just establish this as as principal, as a as
a guide going forward. The Democrats lied about Biden's state
of mind for his whole first term. They will be
able to turn around and lie about anything. They've already
done it. They've already shown if they can lie about that.
There's nothing that's too embarrassing, there's nothing that's too outrageous,
(35:26):
there's no gas lighting that is too strong. So yeah,
I mean, I see all. This is why I keep
telling everybody, you know, we haven't even talked about prices
on Buck Island, clay I think we're all full. I
think everyone I'm not even gonna I'm not even call
it anybody. I had a family member tell me a
couple of days ago that he was switching to clay Town.
And now he found out you're on Buck Island. He's like, why,
(35:48):
he said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Sorry, no room. At the end, we'll talk more about this.
We do agree Biden ain't going quietly into that good night,
and it's gonna take a lot of money to get
him to pry his cold dead hands off the presidency.
What's next we'll discuss here on claim Buck
Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have a fantastic guest to start us off today,
President Trump himself is joining us. Mister President, I appreciate
you being with us.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So let's start with how you think it went. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway? Because the
New York Times and a lot of others seem like
they thought it could be the end, but doesn't really
seem like the end.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelenski and
(00:59):
he introduced him as Vladimir Putin. That was not good.
That was unpardonable. You can't do that. You know, there
are things you can do and things you can't do.
That was a bad one. So he introduced him as
Putin and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know
(01:21):
that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
was going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh, I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:01):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks, and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you, Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get antermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch you know the story does a party
you feel like, Yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
(02:22):
him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
(02:47):
but I start standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go last. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
(03:09):
he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
(03:30):
I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
(03:52):
could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar these makeups. Last
night was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier on was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
(04:13):
it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster. Now,
the debate was a disaster for him, there's no question
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
President Trump.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate were
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh,
do the television networks look forward to that one. But
because so.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You're willing to give him a rematch, because I actually
think that's kind of you, given the fact that you
knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike Tyson didn't
immediately say okay, getting the ring against thinks I kind
of feel like he was flat on the you know,
on the canvas, looking up at you. But that seems
kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, I think we owe it maybe to the public
to do it, you know, I think you have an
obligation to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee
and you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to
an extent, we owe it to the public to do it,
if that makes sense. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Ismatch, I got Actually, I actually was suggesting yesterday maybe
you'll have a first of this that we go in together,
because I am cognitively great, perfect and I've had tests.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I do it routine, you know, whenever I do. I
just did a physical, by the way, and I came
out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon or whatever I
have to announce but but I suggest that we go
in together and do a cognitive test. We'll do cognitive tests.
We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I would do whatever they want the test, I do
mental acuity tests with him. I would do whatever whatever
it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests, they
have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I actually
feel that anybody running from not age wise. I mean
(06:18):
I've spoken to, I deal with people that are much
older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Is he the matchup you.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Want on President Trump?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
This is this is important. Is he the matchup you
want in terms of who is going to be on
the ballot for the Democrats at the top of this fall,
because there's reporting that your team is very pleased that
it looks like he's going to stay in. It's not
going to be common law and there's not going to
be some third option switch at the convention.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic,
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine, And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
(07:15):
we going? It's going to be somebody else. I think
that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:36):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
(07:57):
Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country, there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things.
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
(08:20):
I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
(08:49):
right now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, I thought George Slooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice. Tone.
I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, a third rate
movie actor. He was a television actor who never made
really a good movie and so he's sort of third rate.
(09:13):
He goes as a movie actor at Clark Gable, he's not.
And you know, but I thought it was I thought
it was a great actor of disloyalty. And Obama hates
Biden and Biden hates Obama. We know that because that's
been for a long time. You remember, you guys, remember
your perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary,
(09:36):
not Biden. And Biden never forgot that they hate each other.
You remember when I said that Bush and Marco had
a lot of problems together and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
(09:57):
going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates, actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
(10:20):
he really passed in a more prime time period. But
I don't want to again, I don't want to stress
age because so many people I know, so many people
who are far older than Biden, who were so so amazing.
I speak with Rupert Murdoch a lot. I think Rupert's
ninety four and ninety five, that's right, so he's substantially older.
(10:43):
He's like thirteen years older than Biden. He's he's one
hundred percent sharp. He's just start to attack President Trump.
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Are you already a point where you're willing to say
or that you feel strongly that a majority of the
American people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses
and abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
(12:33):
that that hasn't worked, and if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all, you know,
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
(12:59):
the head of Hungry Victor orban and very strong guy.
He was, I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our procedures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
(13:19):
procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
(13:39):
of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting is so different than yours. Ours is much
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Many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have.
There's no security there, very little. We're like a third
world country in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, NDAs and attorney generals
(14:24):
and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice president there, You've
done a good job. I think of creating a lot
of different drama associated with who the vice president is
going to be. Can you tell us have you made
up your mind on your pick yet? And second part
of that, have you decided on how the vice president
(14:57):
is going to be announced?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
(15:21):
Tuesday or Wednesday, actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
(15:42):
or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Like?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? And
have you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of The Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
(16:23):
I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So it's still open, though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind, is
that right? You're still thinking it over.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
(16:57):
He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television,
who was incredible. JD's been great. You have a man
named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota. And
you know it's a state that's very very pressed. It
was very successful and he's done a good job there.
(17:19):
You have, you have some terrific people.
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of people who are feeling optimistic but also don't want
to get ahead of themselves. How should they be feeling
(18:30):
as we're going into the absolute peak of this election cycle.
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen, and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
be doing a large deportation. We have no choice. They're prisoners,
(19:01):
their mental institution, people from mental institutions, and you can
look all over the world where they've done this. They're
moving them into our country. They're doing it purposely the
governments of those countries, many countries, not just South America,
and their crime rates are way down. Venezuela, their crime
rate is down by seventy two percent. Wouldn't we be
(19:21):
nice if we had a crime rate that went our
crime rates? Our crime rates are going up because we're
taking all these prisoners and all these people from other countries.
But you take a look at El Salvador, take a
look at these countries. Their crime rates are way down
because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers, and they're
emptying out their jails into our country. How stupid can
(19:43):
we be? But I'd say, with everything, and it's so,
that's a tremendous problem that we have that we shouldn't
have had. You know, we wouldn't have had that problem,
We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine. Think about it.
You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine. There's no
way he would have done it. I had a good
relationship with both of them. You would have it wouldn't
have happened. You wouldn't have had China looking very violently
(20:08):
at Taiwan. I don't see what's going to happen there.
If but could happen, they certainly, they certainly are threatening
right now. But you wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't
have inflation. You wouldn't have had the attack on Israel.
That would have never happened. Aren had no money, they
were broke with sanctions, they were literally broke. There was
no terror. I had no terror during my administration. We
(20:31):
had no terror attacks. And now it's like terrible what's happening,
and all over the world. The whole world is exploding.
And Victor Orban actually said, the only thing you can
do is get Trump backed. He kept everything. I kept
things in order. You wouldn't have had all of these.
Every one of these events, including inflation, you wouldn't have
had that was caused by stupid energy policies of this administration.
(20:55):
It was caused by energy, the cost of energy. So
we're going to make our country grade again. We're going
to have a big, a really big week and I
think it's going to be very inspiring. I hope so.
And we have to get back to business. We have
to get back to running the country the way it
should be. We have to stop the crime our cities are.
In Chicago, last week, one hundred and seventeen people were
(21:19):
shot and seventeen died. That's a war zone. That's worse
than most war zones. You don't have that happening. That's
not happening in Afghanistan. That's not happening in other places
that you think of being a violent country. Chicago, think
of it. One hundred and seventeen people were shot over
(21:41):
the weekend. Now it was a big weekend, like what
we're adding an extra day. Seventeen died.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here in this election, and
many people here are thinking about you, supporting you, and
praying for you as you do. So thank you so
much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Thank you, and you have a great show, and I
appreciate it, and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
All Right, you know we were talking about it. President
Trump's going to weigh in here on how Biden would
do on the golf course. And here's the thing. Biden
might do a little better than that if he gets
himself some chalk. That's right, Chalk would get him fired up,
maybe get him below triple digits. We'll see what Trump
thinks about Biden's golf ability. Chalker, no chalk, but look,
(22:35):
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(23:20):
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Speaker 3 (23:47):
S Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang
with Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode of Every Sunday.
Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton, Joe
our interview with Trump. We taped it with him early
this morning. If you happen to be in your car
(24:08):
and you just heard part of it and you said, hey,
I want to hear the whole thing, certainly you can
go listen on the podcast, but we're going to play
it again in the third hour for those of you
who did not hear it, because let's be honest, what
is better than hearing from Trump himself and being able
to break all of the things that are going on
(24:28):
right now down buck. We'll talk about this some when
we come back at the top of the second hour,
to be certain. But I know you were watching as
well as I was the press conference yesterday of Biden.
My big takeaway. We're going to play a fun clip
for you here from Trump at a moment, but my
big takeaway from the Biden press conference yesterday was it
(24:53):
was the best thing that could happen for Trump or
the Republicans because he wasn't bad enough for everybody to
just say, oh, we've got to abandon him completely, but
he wasn't good enough to alleviate or the concerns that
were arose based on his performance two weeks ago in
the debate. Is that kind of your take as well.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Look, I think he's in I think that the coup failed,
and I think one place where maybe we see it
a little differently, Clay, is I still believe that even
a very weakened uh, and frail Biden is better than
Kamala Harris against Donald Trump. And I know that people
think that that's not really possible, but I think it
(25:33):
is possible.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I think that.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I still think Trump's in great shape. I think
that Trump is likely to defeat Biden, but I actually
think Kamala would have been a more of a wipeout scenario.
I mean, I think or a red wave scenario for
Trump than Biden will end up being.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
You know, Trump said that he said he thought that
Kamalo was easier than Biden. Now there's also strategy there, right,
because if you really thought that Biden was the weaker candidate,
you want him in, right. So I don't know what
he's playing with her some little bit say who you
know what I mean, like, Trump is the kind of
guy who I think would tell you, I don't think
he's thinking about what the reaction to.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It will be.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I truly believe that that he thinks the Kamala would
just be.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You get down to things just like name, recognition, familiarity
with the person, these things that shouldn't matter that much
in politics but actually matter a whole heck of a
lot at the national level. And Kamala Harris would have
a lot of problems, a.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Lot of problems. I think she is higher risk and
higher reward. I don't see any way that Biden can
win because of his mental and physical issues. I feel
like she might galvanize women and minorities in a way
that Biden is not. But I also agree with you
that she could fall flat on her face. I don't
(26:53):
think she's a very skilled campaigner, and certainly Democrats have
rejected her before, so it wouldn't stun me if she
performed worse than Biden either. I think the way I'm
thinking of it is Biden has a lower lower ceiling,
but a higher floor. His band of performance is less substantial.
(27:13):
She has a higher ceiling, but also a lower floor.
If that makes sense. Should we play by the way?
This is fun? You know, we talked about the golf challenge,
and I wanted to get President Trump breaking down in
a little bit more detail his challenge of Joe Biden
out on the golf course, which remember it's really an
(27:34):
acceptance of a challenge, because Biden himself accepted it the
first place. We got some fun audio. Here's Trump analyzing
the Joe Biden golf game. Listen, last question for you,
mister president. I love the golf challenge. Buck has never
watched a golf match on television. He said he would
watch you play against Biden. Do you I love the
(27:58):
twenty stroke challenge? He challenged you first, what do you
think Biden would actually shoot if he had to count
every hole? And do you think he would even be
able to finish eighteen holes or do you think they
would have to stop it and take him off because
he's not healthy enough to even finish eighteen holes? How
do you think the round would go so without Bragg?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And I'm a very good golfer. You know. I've won
club championships, many, many, many club championships, and I win
them all the time. I still win them. I play
just as good now as I did twenty years ago.
That's a good sign. That's a good physical and cognitive test,
because golf is mental also, right. But I've won many
(28:42):
club championships and he cannot win a club championship, nor
can he break a hundred. There's no way he breaks
a hundred. I've seen his swing. I've never seen him play,
but I've seen his swing, and I've spoken to people
that are near to him. And he's a terrible golfer,
but he's all taught. You have to understand he is.
(29:02):
When pilots go to the White House, they say, he says, oh,
I used to fly planes. When truckers go to the
White House, he said, oh, I drove a truck everything
that anybody goes there. Well, he made the challenge to
the wrong guy in golf. I mean, I've offered him.
I give him twenty strix tennis side, I said, and
I'll give him million dollars to his charity. But they
(29:24):
turned me down. They said no. Now, if he was
a six handicap, which he's not, he says six point
two because he wants to be nice and accurate. I
don't believe he could break one hundred and fifty. I've
watched his swing. I don't believe. And I break seventy
a lot, but I shoot in the low seventies and
mid seventies. And that's what you have to do. You know,
(29:44):
when you play, when you win club championships, you're playing
against scratch golfers, and I often beat them. I mean
this year I won three, and I don't get to
play very much relative to a lot of these guys.
They live on the golf course, you know, so you know,
he makes a challeng and he's all talk and no action,
a nasty guy. And remember he weaponized government against me,
(30:08):
and that's a very bad precedent to say, very very bad,
very dangerous.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
What's fifty buck is? I think I've never played golf.
I feel like I could shoot a one fifty. I
think that I'd probably get there just I'd learn as
I go through the holes, so I figure it out.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I think a lot of people out there could play
only with a putter and be able to put up
a one to fifty, even driving with your putter. But
I again, to me, this is where Trump is at
his best in this sort of grappling match with Biden.
And even early in the interview he talked about this
(30:47):
with us that he would have laughed a little bit
if Biden had been calling him vice president. Trump sarcastically,
Trump with a lead is playing with house money, and
he's funny and he's engaging and he's using humor, and
Biden really can't respond at all. Even the idea of
having a live cognitive test on television Biden yesterday was
(31:11):
really bad. I thought, relative to any other president when
you analyze his press conference performance, but he's so bad
that if he just doesn't fall and he actually can
say people's names, they give him a passing grade. It
might be the easiest passing grade we've ever given any president.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I do think we should at least give some credit
where it's due when it comes to Biden, though, I mean, Clay,
he has had the full force of the elite Democrat
machine in the media. At least say you have to
drop out, and he's just like, no, I'm not doing it.
I mean, you know, say what you will about Biden.
(31:55):
We've said a lot. This guy is so dug in
he does not care what they say. And I think
that the press conference last night, which we talked to
President Trump about was it was enough. I mean, to
your point about where the bar is, that was pretty much.
If you had told me the press conference last night
was Biden eighteen months ago or something, I would say, yeah, totally.
(32:17):
He hasn't been that different. He did even for where
he is. He had a bad night on the debate.
I was surprised a few things. He never smiled, he
never did his weird whisper thing. He never started angrily shouting. Now,
you could say that makes him seem crazy, but crazy
and senile are not the same thing, and energy makes
(32:40):
it seem less like he's old and decrepit, even if
that energy is kind of a burst of rage.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, So he just he underperformed even for a guy
who is suffering from senility in the debate. And I
think that yesterday that was pretty standard Biden, and standard
Biden isn't going to go. I know everyone saying that,
Oh not everyone, but people are saying that there's a
negotiation going on to try to get him out. We've
(33:07):
talked about that a little bit too, and with each
passing day, man, that negotiation, I don't know how much
higher the price can go.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
You and I have talked about as people who have
done television, and also, obviously, like all of you watched
a lot of television, you can also oftentimes tell whether
someone is good at television without even hearing them speak.
And the thing that stood out to me so much
about the debate was when Biden wasn't speaking, the fact
(33:35):
that he just kind of stood there with his mouth open,
slack jawed, looking totally lost. I thought he was more
engaged on the press conference, I think probably because there
was no interruption. By and large, people ask a question
and then they just kind of let him give his
rambling soliloquies that ended so often with him saying anyway,
(33:59):
and with him, like you said, leaning over and whispering
strangely and creepily into the microphone, and then this constant
thing where he has this desire to try and talk,
but he can't because he's always coughing. Like the whole
thing was not good. And if we had the standard of, hey,
(34:21):
is this a good presidential communicator, he would fail on
all counts. He has now lowered the bar to such
an extent that I wonder whether he might be able
to exceed it. And this is why I asked Trump
whether it even makes sense to go out and debate
Biden again. I think the expectations are so low for
Biden that if he doesn't come out and literally die
(34:44):
on the stage, Democrats come September are going to say
this was a magisterial performance. This was Lincoln at his
best in his prime against Stephen Douglas. Right, that's the standard.
Once they know he's the guy, they're going to why
and claim that he's great.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Let's just establish this as as principal, as a as
a guide going forward. The Democrats lied about Biden's state
of mind for his whole first term. They will be
able to turn around and lie about anything. They've already
done it. They've already shown if they can lie about that.
There's nothing that's too embarrassing, there's nothing that's too outrageous,
(35:26):
there's no gas lighting that is too strong. So yeah,
I mean, I see all. This is why I keep
telling everybody, you know, we haven't even talked about prices
on Buck Island, clay I think we're all full. I
think everyone I'm not even gonna I'm not even call
it anybody. I had a family member tell me a
couple of days ago that he was switching to clay Town.
And now he found out you're on Buck Island. He's like, why,
(35:48):
he said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Sorry, no room. At the end, we'll talk more about this.
We do agree Biden ain't going quietly into that good night,
and it's gonna take a lot of money to get
him to pry his cold dead hands off the presidency.
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