February 13, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're
going to be talking in the next hour. About an
hour from now, we are scheduled to talk with Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. Obviously he's in the news in
a big way, I believe. Tomorrow in Munich there are
reports that the conversations about a ceasefire between Ukraine and
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Russia are preparing to escalate in a significant fashion. We'll
get the absolute latest with Marco Rubio again, scheduled to
join us in an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
He was scheduled to be on with us yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
As you can well imagine, things can evolve very quickly
in the position of Secretary of State, so he had
to reschedule. Hopefully we'll be able to talk to him
at the top of the next hour and then at
the bottom of the next hour. Our buddy, Senator Ron
Johnson of Wisconsin, who was texting with us earlier this
week as we were discussing the budget related challenges. He
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wants to lay out what he leaves should be the
targeted budget protocols and how we get back to a
balanced budget. As he sees it. I think you guys
will enjoy that conversation. Big news so far today RFK
Junior has officially been confirmed. And Buck, I want to
lay out a thesis for you. You tell me whether
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you buy it or not. We have seen, in short
order in the last six months seven months, Donald Trump
remake the Republican Party in a more significant fashion than
I think almost anyone has realized. And I understand because
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Trump moves so quickly, and because every day is such
a frenzy, sometimes it's difficult to tell what matters and
what is a distraction. And let me give David Axelrod,
probably unexpectedly some credit here, Buck. In the Albama administration,
he coined the phrase nothing burger, as in a lot
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of stories bubble up and everybody gets really focused on them,
and everybody's talking about it. But he would look at
that and say, it's a nothing burger. It's a twenty
four hour start with nothing burger.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think nothing burger existed before him, Clay, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
In the context, in the context of politics, I never
heard anybody else apply the phrase nothing burger. That's a
good question for etymology. Am I pronouncing that word? Right
etymology experts who initially popularized the phrase nothing burger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Hollywood Gossip columnist Luela Parsons is credited with coining the
term nothing burger in the nineteen fifties, according to Google AI.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
All right, so I apologize, apologize to the Hollywood Gossip
Maven for giving credit to ax Aurt. I will say
I had never heard it really used in a political context.
My point on that is a lot of what Trump
coverage consists of are things that are inconsequential that will
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not last longer than twenty four hours. And I think
Trump's particular genius is a lot of times people, when
they say something that turns into a story, will backtrack
and focus on it and keep on analyzing it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Trump just keeps firing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He moves forward in sort of as a force of will,
and he forces you to follow him instead of constantly
looking at what's behind.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He's a very forward thinking person.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, With that in mind, I don't think there's enough
discussion about how radical Trump has transformed the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Buck Elon Musk votes for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Never endorsed Trump until July thirteenth of twenty twenty four,
right after the assassination attempt Tulsei Gabbert, who just got
confirmed yesterday. I believe Tulca Gabbard ran against Donald Trump
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in twenty twenty lifelong Democrat from Hawaii RFK Junior until
when did he officially endorse August? Maybe September. I think
Omeed Malik, who's a friend of the show, deserves a
lot of credit behind the scenes. This guy is really
plugged in, and he was boys with RFK Junior, and
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he worked as hard as he could to help make
this union happen. I think it was an August endorsement
where RFK Junior finally came out and said, I'm on
board with Trump. What do those people represent? Make America
healthy again. I think that's something that everybody out there
is like, yeah, you know what, I wish this nation
was healthier, common sense, balance the budget, bring a diverse
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coalition of people of a variety of backgrounds who believe
in innate American exceptionalism and greatness, and remake the Republican
Party on the fly as the party of common sense
and the representative of the everyday average American. I don't
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think most people are recognizing what's happening here simultaneously. Buck,
It's not just what you create. It is because we
have developed this system of fifty to fifty. Basically in
the twenty first century, Democrats have gotten used to inherently
opposing what Republicans advocate for and vice versa. And it's
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not just that Trump has rebuilt the Republican Party. It's
that Democrats as a result, are increasingly isolating themselves in
terms of advocating for small, all minority identity groups that
do not represent the larger American population. For example, yesterday,
Democrats show up and introduce a bill for reparations and
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argue that America's racist and that black people need to
be paid because of slavery. They also now only two Democrats, Buck,
we're willing to argue in favor of women's sports only
being made up of women. They won't even allow that
to be voted on in the Senate right now. And
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we also have now the attack policy of Democrats being no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Federal workers are great.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We shouldn't be searching as aggressively as we are for
fraud and waste. I think we have a building going.
I'm not gonna say it's going to continue. But the
momentum we've got going on right now is the Republicans
are building a durable, permanent majority party, and Democrats are
building a permanent, endurance, durable minority party. And every day
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Republicans are expanding their coalition and every day Democrats are
decreasing theirs. Now, at some point, maybe sanity returns to
the Democrat Party, but out of nowhere Trump has built
an incredible edifice upon which a new party is being
built and based. And it's a coalition that has a
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huge tent of just rational, normal, everyday Americans, many of
whom were Democrats until about six months ago. I mean,
I think sometimes you can miss the seismic impacts because
we're looking at all of these twenty four hour stories.
The idea that Tulci Gabbert and Rfk Junior are in
the Trump cabinet, that Elon Musk is basically sleeping in
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the White House, all to try to make America a
more exceptional nation.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
If we had said this a year ago, a lot
of people would have said, you guys, are.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's no way that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, And so the question that I have for you
is do you buy that a new party is being built?
And do you buy that the Democrats are basically lighting
themselves on fire every day? How does this change the
trajectory that we're on right now?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well, I think that we knew that it was Trump's
Republican party in the first Trump term, and now there's
been an even further consolidation this time around. Because what
you have is I think I said this before, but
I like the analogy. It's like Trump and his team
did the Rocky training in Siberia before they go up
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against Ivan Drago. You know, this is the most ferociously
focused and talented and relentless Trump Maga movement that we
have ever seen. And that means that Democrats have a
challenge even if they had some of their old stable
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of big political names to deal with. But it's coming
at a time when I think they're particularly weak, and
I think their arguments are particularly weak. Part of this
is that one thing you've noticed, you know, Clay, you
just had a speech on campus, right and you out
with exposing some young college people to arguments they probably
had not heard before. I remember when I was a
college Republican in two thousand. Okay, wow, twenty five years
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that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ago, I was a freshman, and I remember very clearly,
very early on, the recognition among college Republicans at Amhersten was,
we know that we have to be ready to fight,
meaning you know, argue, debate in the classroom, in the
study hall, among friends, whatever, and so we were always lean,
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mean and ready for action. Democrats, I think got a
combination of crazier and flabbier intellectual because they had achieved
so much information dissemination dominance. What I mean is because
they could kick you off the Internet, which they did
to parlor, because they could count on all social media
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platforms to be aligned with their ideology, to shut down
questioning the election, to shut down questioning masks and lockdowns
and the COVID vacciness effectiveness and all this stuff. I
think they just got sloppy, and I think that as
a result, the craziest element was able to ascend with
the Democrat Party, and they were a particularly weak element
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when it came to being able to convince anybody of anything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So it's like the virus, so to speak, was able
to run rampant with the Democrats, and now we're seeing
what the casualties of that are politically. So you know,
you have the strongest Trump and the strongest MAGA that
we have ever seen, most consolidated, the most able to
bring over converts to your point about RFK and Tulsi,
And at the same time as you have the weakest
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Democrat party that we've seen in my adult lifetime. In
twenty five years, this is the weakest Democrat party we've
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Here's a question I want you, guys.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think that the party has been remade, and I
think it's important to think about it. I know many
of you out there listening may not have been traditional
listeners of this program. Question that I think is very
interesting is how do the Democrats eventually align on somebody
to combat it? And I'm we talked about this, I
don't know that there's a current office holder who is
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charismatic enough to be that person. So think about that
second part of this. How durable is the Trump magic?
How durable is the movement that Trump has built? In
other words, how much of it transfers to whomever the
air is and how much of it is unique to
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Trump's own particular brand of what I think you have
to say, is political fairy dust.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, he is a unique.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Political unicorn talent. How much of it transfers. Let's pretend
that JD. Vance is the guy going forward. These are
the things I think in the back of your mind,
big picture that you should be contemplating, because one of
these big things that you have to keep in mind
is as good as Trump is and as many wins
as he is stacking right now, a Democrat with a
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pen at the resolute desk can wipe out an awful
lot of this greatness over four years. We have to
stack multiple terms.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So your point about whether it transfers and whether you
know and I think Trump it was interesting. We didn't
discuss this, but he was asked in a recent interview.
I think it was Brett Baer, is JD. Vance your successor?
And he responded something along the lines of JD's super
competent and capable. But you know, we'll see. And I
think we have to keep that in mind, whether the not,
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not for JD specifically, but just what happens with the
MAGA movement going forward with Trump's Republican Party. A lot
of it will be determined by how successful the next
eighteen months are the next eighteen months is a continuation
of what we've seen in this first month. Then I
think you're just going to have an incredibly robust party
that has a solid majority of the American people behind
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it and can count upon a whole bunch of people
to take the torch and move forward with it. You know,
it all depends. Right right now everything looks rosy and great.
We got to see where everything goes. So but I
think the case for optimism right now is stronger for
the Republican Party, for this new Republican Party under Trump overall,
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than it has been in a very long time. I mean, really,
the only kind of consolidation I think you've seen among
Republicans that is in any way similar to what we
have now is the immediate aftermath of nine to eleven,
which is very different. That's getting together in the bunker
to fight in exit stential threat against our way of
life in our society.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's not I think.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We're gonna tackle the debt and have a booming economy
and have peace. So we're in a different place now
under Trump, but we've had a similar level of consolidation
among Republicans that we haven't seen in twenty plus years.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
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Speaker 2 (14:26):
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Speaker 2 (14:58):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
How about the impact of ancient Rome on modern American life?
How about the Federalist papers? How many things out there
historically are super relevant that you hear and you've heard
them talked about for some time, but you just don't
have a personal depth of knowledge relating to it. Ho
about the Constitution itself. You know, my wife's a little
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of the Constitution it's actually not that long of a document.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
She's a lawyer too.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
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Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Just a reminder, we're gonna be talking to Secretary of
State Marco Rubio in the third hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We will also be joined.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
In that third hour by Ron Johnson of Wisconsin talking
to him about Doge and all that good stuff. Speaking
of Doge is a quick one. This cut eleven. Play
do you see this elon and Trump talking about how FEMA,
why is FEMA doing this? Pay double the normal hotel
rate for illegals in luxury New York City hotels.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Play eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We have a case in New York where a hotel
has paid fifty nine million dollars fifteen nine million because
because it's housing migrants.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Illegal migrants. It's all illegal, I believe, and they will
be paid twice the normal room rate at a herd
person occupants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Unbelievable again, lighting money on fire and the priorities here
illegals hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
They're putting illegals up.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I know some of these hotels that they're staying
and I've walked past them in New York recently or
you know, in the relatively recent past.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And Clay, it's outrageous to people, it's outrageous. I mean
for anybody who visits New York. I tried to book
a room recently.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
This is funny.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I need to tell this story when I come back,
about the room that I ended up and what it
cost i heeart because there's no rooms. Because so many
illegals are taking up hotel rooms. They kill the Airbnb
and verbo or whatever in the city and as a result,
impossible to get a room anywhere for any affordable cost.
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
Welcome back in.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We were just talking about the fifty nine million that
went to housing illegal immigrants in New York City, and
I don't know how many of you have potentially had
a trip to New York City recently.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
We have our iHeart studios there.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
When was I up like December like it was or
late November sometime where they the lights were on for
the Christmas tree and stuff like that. It was early
December is right before we left for Israel, and so
I needed to get a hotel room, and the staff
buck went to go book me a hotel room. Now
New York has banned basically Airbnb and vrbo, so that
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used to be very common. They also now it's something
some crazy percentage of the hotel rooms are now as
this fifty nine million dollars is being pointed out being
spent to house illegal immigrants, so that takes all of
those rooms off off the register, off the available booking list.
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I stayed in a Hyatt Hilton caliber hotel. So it's nice,
but it's not like it was the rich Carlton. It's
not like it was some five star, incredible hotel. It
was almost for the company for me to stay in
New York City, almost one thousand dollars a night. Buck
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I checked in and I got to the hotel room,
I laid down on the bed. I could touch the
wall on either side of me.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That sounds like my first four New York apartments. But yeah, yes,
one thousand dollars a night.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So what they are doing is for regular people who
are let's say you have to be in New York
City for work, or let's say you just wanted to
take your family for a spring break or a summer
trip to New York, as many families try to do.
They are making it cost prohibitive by using all of
our tax dollars to house illegal immigrants in very nice
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hotel rooms, give them Wi Fi pay for their meals,
and in the process, normal people who might be traveling
to New York are getting gouged because there simply aren't
enough hotel rooms based on the way this process playing out.
So the reason why I bring all this up is
the consequence with here, it's important to know that the
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people being gouged or paying for it correct the illegals
are having it paid for with the people who are
being gouged money in a lot of cases, because there
are a lot of Americans who come to visit New
York who are the ones who are paying these taxes
in the first correct paying you're both getting gouged on
the hotel rooms that you yourself have to pay for,
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while also helping cause the gouging by your tax dollars
going to pay.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
For illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I just think this is a radical thing that most
people really have not spent very much time thinking about
three and four star hotels in New York City being
completely given over to illegal immigrants based on your and
mind tax dollars subsidizing rooms for them such that the
overall cost goes up. And this is one remember when
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Jade Vance got ripped when he said, hey, one reason
rents are going up is because we've got a huge
influx of illegals. And one of the moderators, if I
remember correctly, said what economic basis do you have for
that supply and demand?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Like the hotels two zero percent of hotels in New
York City are off the market, so correct. I mean,
if you told me that you were going to eliminate
twenty percent of the housing stock in a city, guess
what rent's going to go up totally.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And so it's not only that these illegal immigrants are
costing US tax dollars. I think you have to recognize
that they're driving up costs for other things that Americans
are going to consume. Your rent in whatever city that
you're in, if there is a substantial illegal immigrant population,
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is going to go up because there is more demand
for the rental properties than otherwise might be able to
be satisfied. And then you toss in the Biden inflation,
which has so many people unable to afford to buy
a starter home, or if you're fortunate enough to own
a home, a lot of you with two and a
half three percent mortgage rates, you're never gonna move because
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you don't want to take on a seven.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Percent thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And even if it might make more sense, your kids
have moved out of the house, or you've had a
new baby, or you want to go to a new
school district. So much of our entire housing and rental
industry is frozen because of the broken policies of Joe Biden,
and almost nobody spends very much time talking about it
at all, And I do think it goes to the essence,
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although I do think it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Buck have you seen? And I think all of you
need to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The sudden pivot from Democrats from never talking about prices
and claiming that the economy was great and you were
a moron if you were seeing things and not happy,
to suddenly now the price of eggs is one hundred
percent Donald Trump's fault, and oh, the economy is not
very good. It is kind of amazing how they went
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from bidnomics is great and your moron's for not recognizing
it to Trump's been in office three weeks and oh,
by the way, this is his economy now and he sucks.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I would honestly extend a little Christian sympathy to the
and formerly known as the MSM. They're no longer the
mainstream media, if they ever were, now they're just dying
legacy Democrat media outlets play. They have conditioned their audience
for anti Trump news, and it's really hard to come
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up with anti Trump news right now, if you and
I were winning, winning, sorry, running the MSNBC newsroom, how
would we stand in the way of all the winning
that Trump is doing?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Like what would you say?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You've seen some mother's like, well, he's a racist, he's
a fascist. But that's really pathetic. No one cares, No
one believes it's not true. And so they say this stuff.
They've tried, this stuff about constitutional crisis, and that's just
a way of covering up the fact that they seem
to think that all the bad spending should continue, the wasteful,
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fraudulent spending should continue. And so now it's you know,
why haven't you brought the price of eggs down in
the first thirty days that you've been the president. Part
of it is malicious, they know that that's stupid. Part
of it is they have nothing better to say because
they have to feed. Right, the audience has been trained.
If you watch MSNBC, if you read the New York Times,
you've been trained for a decade to expect a steady
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diet of anti trumpism. And then another part of it
is ignorance. I mean, there are how many people that
are in the New York Times editorial page. You think
in any day or in the CNN newsroom really understand,
really understand basic economics.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think negligible percentage. Yeah, so it's all those things
together right now.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
If I could change one thing, it would be that
every single person representing the United States has to have
founded or been employed by a small or medium sized
business at some point in their life.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think it would change everything.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean, Senator Ron Johnson, who we're going to talk
to in the next hour, Really what you can look
at is I was talking about this because I do
think it's significant Democrats are saying, hey, we're going to
introduce a reparations bill.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
They don't have.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The Democrat Party doesn't really now have anyone, it seems
to me, in a position of prominence or power, who
has any basic comprehension of how markets work. And if
you don't understand basic economics and business and marketplace dynamics,
you shouldn't be able to represent the United States, in
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my opinion, because you lack the functional knowledge to understand
the consequences of your behavior. And whatever you want to
say about Trump, the guy understands markets, he understands interest rates,
he understands budgeting, payroll, all of those things that are
integral to any business having any measure of success, and
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the Democrats don't really have anybody who can counter it.
They got Bernie Sanders. Democrats see government as a way
to get rich. Most people on that side of of
the party have never ever had to make payroll. And
this is really the story of the federal government writ large,
because if you have no fear of losing your job,
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my general opinion is you probably are pretty crappy at
doing that job because pressure and consequences usually creates a
better outcome, as does competition, and we don't have any
of that in our federal government. By the way, maybe
get up to one hundred thousand people taking the buyout
positive news, Did you see this? Like the numbers have
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started to tick up even more so. Seventy five thousand,
I believe is the most recent number, and there's some
possibility they may get to one hundred thousand voluntary buyouts.
And a federal judge said, oh, you know what, the
government can buy out people who make that voluntary choice.
So I do think that in general is a positive,
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directionally oriented movement.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think that with the exception of the birthright citizenship issue,
which we knew was going to go to the courts,
and they knew it was good.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
There was no surprise there.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It wasn't like, oh, the Trump's going to do this
executive order and then they're going to accept it. But
with most of these other court challenges, it's just a
question of time before they get overturned on appeal or
at the Supreme Court. I think that there are these
mostly procedural tantrums that some of these circuit court judges
have thrown about Trump executive orders are on incredibly shaky,
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almost non existent legal ground in YEES cases. I mean,
with the with the federal buyout, it's but what if
it's like too fast and we have to just slow
this down. No, that's not that's not what a judge does.
A judge doesn't get to say the executive branch is
doing too many things. That's that's not a you know,
the executive branch has taken on too many functions within
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its at it's.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Acting acting too much in the executive too.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Much efficiency, too much efficiency going you know, get getting
the mission done way too quickly, unacceptable. But it really
is the mentality within the federal government is don't be
too efficient don't be too good at what you do.
Just do the minimum and complain a lot about how
you're underpaid.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Just telling you.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
When we come back, we'll get set for the third
hour here with Marco Rubio schedule to join us and
Senator Ron Johnson. But Buck, I've got a clip that
I think you're going to enjoy where I went toe
to toe with a a guy who had not gotten
enough COVID shots, a left winger on Pierce Morgan Show.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think you'll enjoy this. We'll play it for you
here in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
But I want to tell you big game coming up
this weekend, biggest sporting event, Buck, Do you have any
idea what the biggest sporting event this weekend is Saturday?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Biggest sporting event on Saturday? NASCAR? Well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You may have caught me a little bit a little
bit here. I think Sunday is the Daytona five hundred.
You were close. I think I might in a fact
check on Buck's history bucks sports knowledge here, which is
a first.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Because I'm shot in the dark.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
By the way, if I hit the target, that's pretty money.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
NASCAR is broad. But I think Sunday is the Daytona
five hundred. But what I was going for is Alabama
and Auburn. One versus two in basketball has never happened before.
Usually it's a big football matchup. One versus two has
never happened in football, but it's happening in basketball in
the state of Alabama. It's gonna be the biggest game.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We will get some
calls here, if not right now, certain the next hour
and coming up we have a big hour for you.
We have Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, assuming he
doesn't have to deal with an imminent issue of world peace.
And if he does, that's fine, that's what the Secretary
of State has to do, but he should be with
us here shortly. And then also Senator Ron Johnson, we
talked about DOGE and a saving America from financial insolvency, which.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I think is a pretty big deal.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But Clay has felt a little pugilistic recently, as you
may have picked up he went to University of Chicago
and was busy stomping on The Atlantic on stage, which
it very much deserves. I might add the Atlantic is
a smug left wing journal of smug left wing opinion.
(32:42):
And then Clay decided to go on the Piers Morgan Show,
which I am told this clip is going to be entertaining.
You and one Roland Martin. Correct, mister Roland Martin having
a bit of an exchange. It's up at clayanbuck dot
com if you want to watch the video. But here
is how that went fired up.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm specifically asking you're going after an RFK junior for
not following government advice. You have chosen not to follow
government advice and get ten COVID shots like your government
has told you. Why are you not a science deni
or why are you not a shot DENI firstball.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Because I'm not a sassin that I'm not a siass denier.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm not a shot denier, and I also believe denying
science by only getting two.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
COVID shot signed way way, that's cute, but I'm not
denying side.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think you are eight COVID shots. You're saying shots.
I can show you the fifteen shots that I got
Deni Africa. This is play.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I don't we can share the show now with you
being such a science denial way way, your.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Little cute, your little cute little moment is cute, but.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It doesn't work. Okay, So but I did it work. Actually,
I think it worked. I think it works really well.
And this is my advice to all of you. If
people are saying to you, AREFK Junior, Oh it's a
I'm sure you're gonna hear it. You might hear it
from your kids, you might hear it from your spouses,
you might hear it from friends and family. Just ask
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them how many COVID shots you get. I'm at zero,
but sorry laugh. Buck got the one that got pulled
off the market. I got the worst one. I'll never forget.
The nurse was like, you don't want this one, this
one doesn't work, and I was like, no, no, that's
the one New York City's making me get it. I'm
gonna get the one that doesn't do anything to remind people.
(34:35):
Because this is right after we started. They checked fax
cards so you could go to your brother's wedding. Yeah,
in New York City.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
The venue required sending a VAX card via email for
every guest in advance. So they had a list of everybody.
Because you know it's a wedding, it's expensive, you pay
per head. It was send us a VAX card for
every person on your list, or they will be barred
at the door. That was what we had to deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I mean, this is I mean, I think it's wor
worth mentioning how crazy town these people went. But a
lot of these people stopped listening because they recognized that
the COVID shot didn't stop you from getting COVID and
most people out there are not getting all these boosters.
So when they say that RFK Junior is a science
deny or which is what started that conversation, ask them
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how many COVID shots they got and unless their answer
is eight or ten, then they are making a calculated
decision to analyze risk on their own and not accept
the full recommendation of the United States government. And I
bet almost none of you out there listening to us
right now have gotten eight, nine or ten COVID shots.
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I bet you're not pincushions because you recognize that using
your brain and making the best decisions for you and
your health is actually the foundational element of individual freedom
in America. So I think it undercuts a lot of
the RFK anti vaccine talk. He's not anti most vaccines.
(36:07):
He just questions whether we need to be giving what
is the number? Now you're gonna find this out soon
seventy or something. It's seventy shots to a kid under one. Yeah,
I mean, I mean I think there starts to be
I mean, again, a lot is there, baby CEO. She's
gonna make all the necessary calls about all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I get it, and that's what every mom should be.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But I never thought about it at all with my
kids until this COVID clap trap happened. And now I
think it's fair to say, are we over medicating kids?
I think the answer is probably yes. I want those
questions asked.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I actually was going through an old tennis bag the
other day and I found a disgusting little cloth mask
because you had to put on to walk onto the court.
Welcome in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're
going to be talking in the next hour. About an
hour from now, we are scheduled to talk with Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. Obviously he's in the news in
a big way, I believe. Tomorrow in Munich there are
reports that the conversations about a ceasefire between Ukraine and
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Russia are preparing to escalate in a significant fashion. We'll
get the absolute latest with Marco Rubio again, scheduled to
join us in an hour.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
He was scheduled to be on with us yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
As you can well imagine, things can evolve very quickly
in the position of Secretary of State, so he had
to reschedule. Hopefully we'll be able to talk to him
at the top of the next hour and then at
the bottom of the next hour. Our buddy, Senator Ron
Johnson of Wisconsin, who was texting with us earlier this
week as we were discussing the budget related challenges. He
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wants to lay out what he leaves should be the
targeted budget protocols and how we get back to a
balanced budget. As he sees it. I think you guys
will enjoy that conversation. Big news so far today RFK
Junior has officially been confirmed. And Buck, I want to
lay out a thesis for you. You tell me whether
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you buy it or not. We have seen, in short
order in the last six months seven months, Donald Trump
remake the Republican Party in a more significant fashion than
I think almost anyone has realized. And I understand because
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Trump moves so quickly, and because every day is such
a frenzy, sometimes it's difficult to tell what matters and
what is a distraction. And let me give David Axelrod,
probably unexpectedly some credit here, Buck. In the Albama administration,
he coined the phrase nothing burger, as in a lot
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of stories bubble up and everybody gets really focused on them,
and everybody's talking about it. But he would look at
that and say, it's a nothing burger. It's a twenty
four hour start with nothing burger.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think nothing burger existed before him, Clay, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
In the context, in the context of politics, I never
heard anybody else apply the phrase nothing burger. That's a
good question for etymology. Am I pronouncing that word? Right
etymology experts who initially popularized the phrase nothing burger.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Hollywood Gossip columnist Luela Parsons is credited with coining the
term nothing burger in the nineteen fifties, according to Google AI.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
All right, so I apologize, apologize to the Hollywood Gossip
Maven for giving credit to ax Aurt. I will say
I had never heard it really used in a political context.
My point on that is a lot of what Trump
coverage consists of are things that are inconsequential that will
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not last longer than twenty four hours. And I think
Trump's particular genius is a lot of times people, when
they say something that turns into a story, will backtrack
and focus on it and keep on analyzing it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Trump just keeps firing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
He moves forward in sort of as a force of will,
and he forces you to follow him instead of constantly
looking at what's behind.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
He's a very forward thinking person.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, With that in mind, I don't think there's enough
discussion about how radical Trump has transformed the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Buck Elon Musk votes for Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Never endorsed Trump until July thirteenth of twenty twenty four,
right after the assassination attempt Tulsei Gabbert, who just got
confirmed yesterday. I believe Tulca Gabbard ran against Donald Trump
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in twenty twenty lifelong Democrat from Hawaii RFK Junior until
when did he officially endorse August? Maybe September. I think
Omeed Malik, who's a friend of the show, deserves a
lot of credit behind the scenes. This guy is really
plugged in, and he was boys with RFK Junior, and
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he worked as hard as he could to help make
this union happen. I think it was an August endorsement
where RFK Junior finally came out and said, I'm on
board with Trump. What do those people represent? Make America
healthy again. I think that's something that everybody out there
is like, yeah, you know what, I wish this nation
was healthier, common sense, balance the budget, bring a diverse
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coalition of people of a variety of backgrounds who believe
in innate American exceptionalism and greatness, and remake the Republican
Party on the fly as the party of common sense
and the representative of the everyday average American. I don't
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think most people are recognizing what's happening here simultaneously. Buck,
It's not just what you create. It is because we
have developed this system of fifty to fifty. Basically in
the twenty first century, Democrats have gotten used to inherently
opposing what Republicans advocate for and vice versa. And it's
(05:47):
not just that Trump has rebuilt the Republican Party. It's
that Democrats as a result, are increasingly isolating themselves in
terms of advocating for small, all minority identity groups that
do not represent the larger American population. For example, yesterday,
Democrats show up and introduce a bill for reparations and
(06:12):
argue that America's racist and that black people need to
be paid because of slavery. They also now only two Democrats, Buck,
we're willing to argue in favor of women's sports only
being made up of women. They won't even allow that
to be voted on in the Senate right now. And
(06:33):
we also have now the attack policy of Democrats being no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Federal workers are great.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
We shouldn't be searching as aggressively as we are for
fraud and waste. I think we have a building going.
I'm not gonna say it's going to continue. But the
momentum we've got going on right now is the Republicans
are building a durable, permanent majority party, and Democrats are
building a permanent, endurance, durable minority party. And every day
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Republicans are expanding their coalition and every day Democrats are
decreasing theirs. Now, at some point, maybe sanity returns to
the Democrat Party, but out of nowhere Trump has built
an incredible edifice upon which a new party is being
built and based. And it's a coalition that has a
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huge tent of just rational, normal, everyday Americans, many of
whom were Democrats until about six months ago. I mean,
I think sometimes you can miss the seismic impacts because
we're looking at all of these twenty four hour stories.
The idea that Tulci Gabbert and Rfk Junior are in
the Trump cabinet, that Elon Musk is basically sleeping in
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the White House, all to try to make America a
more exceptional nation.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
If we had said this a year ago, a lot
of people would have said, you guys, are.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's no way that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, And so the question that I have for you
is do you buy that a new party is being built?
And do you buy that the Democrats are basically lighting
themselves on fire every day? How does this change the
trajectory that we're on right now?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well, I think that we knew that it was Trump's
Republican party in the first Trump term, and now there's
been an even further consolidation this time around. Because what
you have is I think I said this before, but
I like the analogy. It's like Trump and his team
did the Rocky training in Siberia before they go up
(08:43):
against Ivan Drago. You know, this is the most ferociously
focused and talented and relentless Trump Maga movement that we
have ever seen. And that means that Democrats have a
challenge even if they had some of their old stable
(09:04):
of big political names to deal with. But it's coming
at a time when I think they're particularly weak, and
I think their arguments are particularly weak. Part of this
is that one thing you've noticed, you know, Clay, you
just had a speech on campus, right and you out
with exposing some young college people to arguments they probably
had not heard before. I remember when I was a
college Republican in two thousand. Okay, wow, twenty five years
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that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Ago, I was a freshman, and I remember very clearly,
very early on, the recognition among college Republicans at Amhersten was,
we know that we have to be ready to fight,
meaning you know, argue, debate in the classroom, in the
study hall, among friends, whatever, and so we were always lean,
(09:52):
mean and ready for action. Democrats, I think got a
combination of crazier and flabbier intellectual because they had achieved
so much information dissemination dominance. What I mean is because
they could kick you off the Internet, which they did
to parlor, because they could count on all social media
(10:15):
platforms to be aligned with their ideology, to shut down
questioning the election, to shut down questioning masks and lockdowns
and the COVID vacciness effectiveness and all this stuff. I
think they just got sloppy, and I think that as
a result, the craziest element was able to ascend with
the Democrat Party, and they were a particularly weak element
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when it came to being able to convince anybody of anything.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So it's like the virus, so to speak, was able
to run rampant with the Democrats, and now we're seeing
what the casualties of that are politically. So you know,
you have the strongest Trump and the strongest MAGA that
we have ever seen, most consolidated, the most able to
bring over converts to your point about RFK and Tulsi,
And at the same time as you have the weakest
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Democrat party that we've seen in my adult lifetime. In
twenty five years, this is the weakest Democrat party we've
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Here's a question I want you, guys.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I think that the party has been remade, and I
think it's important to think about it. I know many
of you out there listening may not have been traditional
listeners of this program. Question that I think is very
interesting is how do the Democrats eventually align on somebody
to combat it? And I'm we talked about this, I
don't know that there's a current office holder who is
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charismatic enough to be that person. So think about that
second part of this. How durable is the Trump magic?
How durable is the movement that Trump has built? In
other words, how much of it transfers to whomever the
air is and how much of it is unique to
(11:59):
Trump's own particular brand of what I think you have
to say, is political fairy dust.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, he is a unique.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Political unicorn talent. How much of it transfers. Let's pretend
that JD. Vance is the guy going forward. These are
the things I think in the back of your mind,
big picture that you should be contemplating, because one of
these big things that you have to keep in mind
is as good as Trump is and as many wins
as he is stacking right now, a Democrat with a
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pen at the resolute desk can wipe out an awful
lot of this greatness over four years. We have to
stack multiple terms.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So your point about whether it transfers and whether you
know and I think Trump it was interesting. We didn't
discuss this, but he was asked in a recent interview.
I think it was Brett Baer, is JD. Vance your successor?
And he responded something along the lines of JD's super
competent and capable. But you know, we'll see. And I
think we have to keep that in mind, whether the not,
(13:02):
not for JD specifically, but just what happens with the
MAGA movement going forward with Trump's Republican Party. A lot
of it will be determined by how successful the next
eighteen months are the next eighteen months is a continuation
of what we've seen in this first month. Then I
think you're just going to have an incredibly robust party
that has a solid majority of the American people behind
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it and can count upon a whole bunch of people
to take the torch and move forward with it. You know,
it all depends. Right right now everything looks rosy and great.
We got to see where everything goes. So but I
think the case for optimism right now is stronger for
the Republican Party, for this new Republican Party under Trump overall,
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than it has been in a very long time. I mean, really,
the only kind of consolidation I think you've seen among
Republicans that is in any way similar to what we
have now is the immediate aftermath of nine to eleven,
which is very different. That's getting together in the bunker
to fight in exit stential threat against our way of
life in our society.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
That's not I think.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We're gonna tackle the debt and have a booming economy
and have peace. So we're in a different place now
under Trump, but we've had a similar level of consolidation
among Republicans that we haven't seen in twenty plus years.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
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Speaker 2 (14:58):
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How about the impact of ancient Rome on modern American life?
How about the Federalist papers? How many things out there
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them talked about for some time, but you just don't
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about the Constitution itself. You know, my wife's a little
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Speaker 2 (15:28):
She's a lawyer too.
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Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Just a reminder, we're gonna be talking to Secretary of
State Marco Rubio in the third hour of the program.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
We will also be joined.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
In that third hour by Ron Johnson of Wisconsin talking
to him about Doge and all that good stuff. Speaking
of Doge is a quick one. This cut eleven. Play
do you see this elon and Trump talking about how FEMA,
why is FEMA doing this? Pay double the normal hotel
rate for illegals in luxury New York City hotels.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Play eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We have a case in New York where a hotel
has paid fifty nine million dollars fifteen nine million because
because it's housing migrants.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Illegal migrants. It's all illegal, I believe, and they will
be paid twice the normal room rate at a herd
person occupants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Unbelievable again, lighting money on fire and the priorities here
illegals hotel rooms.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
They're putting illegals up.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I know some of these hotels that they're staying
and I've walked past them in New York recently or
you know, in the relatively recent past.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And Clay, it's outrageous to people, it's outrageous. I mean
for anybody who visits New York. I tried to book
a room recently.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
This is funny.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I need to tell this story when I come back,
about the room that I ended up and what it
cost i heeart because there's no rooms. Because so many
illegals are taking up hotel rooms. They kill the Airbnb
and verbo or whatever in the city and as a result,
impossible to get a room anywhere for any affordable cost.
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Speaker 2 (18:53):
Welcome back in.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
We were just talking about the fifty nine million that
went to housing illegal immigrants in New York City, and
I don't know how many of you have potentially had
a trip to New York City recently.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
We have our iHeart studios there.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
When was I up like December like it was or
late November sometime where they the lights were on for
the Christmas tree and stuff like that. It was early
December is right before we left for Israel, and so
I needed to get a hotel room, and the staff
buck went to go book me a hotel room. Now
New York has banned basically Airbnb and vrbo, so that
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used to be very common. They also now it's something
some crazy percentage of the hotel rooms are now as
this fifty nine million dollars is being pointed out being
spent to house illegal immigrants, so that takes all of
those rooms off off the register, off the available booking list.
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I stayed in a Hyatt Hilton caliber hotel. So it's nice,
but it's not like it was the rich Carlton. It's
not like it was some five star, incredible hotel. It
was almost for the company for me to stay in
New York City, almost one thousand dollars a night. Buck
(20:15):
I checked in and I got to the hotel room,
I laid down on the bed. I could touch the
wall on either side of me.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
That sounds like my first four New York apartments. But yeah, yes,
one thousand dollars a night.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So what they are doing is for regular people who
are let's say you have to be in New York
City for work, or let's say you just wanted to
take your family for a spring break or a summer
trip to New York, as many families try to do.
They are making it cost prohibitive by using all of
our tax dollars to house illegal immigrants in very nice
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hotel rooms, give them Wi Fi pay for their meals,
and in the process, normal people who might be traveling
to New York are getting gouged because there simply aren't
enough hotel rooms based on the way this process playing out.
So the reason why I bring all this up is
the consequence with here, it's important to know that the
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people being gouged or paying for it correct the illegals
are having it paid for with the people who are
being gouged money in a lot of cases, because there
are a lot of Americans who come to visit New
York who are the ones who are paying these taxes
in the first correct paying you're both getting gouged on
the hotel rooms that you yourself have to pay for,
(21:38):
while also helping cause the gouging by your tax dollars
going to pay.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
For illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I just think this is a radical thing that most
people really have not spent very much time thinking about
three and four star hotels in New York City being
completely given over to illegal immigrants based on your and
mind tax dollars subsidizing rooms for them such that the
overall cost goes up. And this is one remember when
(22:06):
Jade Vance got ripped when he said, hey, one reason
rents are going up is because we've got a huge
influx of illegals. And one of the moderators, if I
remember correctly, said what economic basis do you have for
that supply and demand?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Like the hotels two zero percent of hotels in New
York City are off the market, so correct. I mean,
if you told me that you were going to eliminate
twenty percent of the housing stock in a city, guess
what rent's going to go up totally.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And so it's not only that these illegal immigrants are
costing US tax dollars. I think you have to recognize
that they're driving up costs for other things that Americans
are going to consume. Your rent in whatever city that
you're in, if there is a substantial illegal immigrant population,
(23:00):
is going to go up because there is more demand
for the rental properties than otherwise might be able to
be satisfied. And then you toss in the Biden inflation,
which has so many people unable to afford to buy
a starter home, or if you're fortunate enough to own
a home, a lot of you with two and a
half three percent mortgage rates, you're never gonna move because
(23:23):
you don't want to take on a seven.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Percent thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
And even if it might make more sense, your kids
have moved out of the house, or you've had a
new baby, or you want to go to a new
school district. So much of our entire housing and rental
industry is frozen because of the broken policies of Joe Biden,
and almost nobody spends very much time talking about it
at all, And I do think it goes to the essence,
(23:49):
although I do think it's funny.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Buck have you seen? And I think all of you
need to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
The sudden pivot from Democrats from never talking about prices
and claiming that the economy was great and you were
a moron if you were seeing things and not happy,
to suddenly now the price of eggs is one hundred
percent Donald Trump's fault, and oh, the economy is not
very good. It is kind of amazing how they went
(24:14):
from bidnomics is great and your moron's for not recognizing
it to Trump's been in office three weeks and oh,
by the way, this is his economy now and he sucks.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I would honestly extend a little Christian sympathy to the
and formerly known as the MSM. They're no longer the
mainstream media, if they ever were, now they're just dying
legacy Democrat media outlets play. They have conditioned their audience
for anti Trump news, and it's really hard to come
(24:46):
up with anti Trump news right now, if you and
I were winning, winning, sorry, running the MSNBC newsroom, how
would we stand in the way of all the winning
that Trump is doing?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Like what would you say?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You've seen some mother's like, well, he's a racist, he's
a fascist. But that's really pathetic. No one cares, No
one believes it's not true. And so they say this stuff.
They've tried, this stuff about constitutional crisis, and that's just
a way of covering up the fact that they seem
to think that all the bad spending should continue, the wasteful,
(25:19):
fraudulent spending should continue. And so now it's you know,
why haven't you brought the price of eggs down in
the first thirty days that you've been the president. Part
of it is malicious, they know that that's stupid. Part
of it is they have nothing better to say because
they have to feed. Right, the audience has been trained.
If you watch MSNBC, if you read the New York Times,
you've been trained for a decade to expect a steady
(25:42):
diet of anti trumpism. And then another part of it
is ignorance. I mean, there are how many people that
are in the New York Times editorial page. You think
in any day or in the CNN newsroom really understand,
really understand basic economics.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think negligible percentage. Yeah, so it's all those things
together right now.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
If I could change one thing, it would be that
every single person representing the United States has to have
founded or been employed by a small or medium sized
business at some point in their life.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I think it would change everything.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean, Senator Ron Johnson, who we're going to talk
to in the next hour, Really what you can look
at is I was talking about this because I do
think it's significant Democrats are saying, hey, we're going to
introduce a reparations bill.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
They don't have.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The Democrat Party doesn't really now have anyone, it seems
to me, in a position of prominence or power, who
has any basic comprehension of how markets work. And if
you don't understand basic economics and business and marketplace dynamics,
you shouldn't be able to represent the United States, in
(26:55):
my opinion, because you lack the functional knowledge to understand
the consequences of your behavior. And whatever you want to
say about Trump, the guy understands markets, he understands interest rates,
he understands budgeting, payroll, all of those things that are
integral to any business having any measure of success, and
(27:19):
the Democrats don't really have anybody who can counter it.
They got Bernie Sanders. Democrats see government as a way
to get rich. Most people on that side of of
the party have never ever had to make payroll. And
this is really the story of the federal government writ large,
because if you have no fear of losing your job,
(27:43):
my general opinion is you probably are pretty crappy at
doing that job because pressure and consequences usually creates a
better outcome, as does competition, and we don't have any
of that in our federal government. By the way, maybe
get up to one hundred thousand people taking the buyout
positive news, Did you see this? Like the numbers have
(28:05):
started to tick up even more so. Seventy five thousand,
I believe is the most recent number, and there's some
possibility they may get to one hundred thousand voluntary buyouts.
And a federal judge said, oh, you know what, the
government can buy out people who make that voluntary choice.
So I do think that in general is a positive,
(28:27):
directionally oriented movement.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think that with the exception of the birthright citizenship issue,
which we knew was going to go to the courts,
and they knew it was good.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
There was no surprise there.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It wasn't like, oh, the Trump's going to do this
executive order and then they're going to accept it. But
with most of these other court challenges, it's just a
question of time before they get overturned on appeal or
at the Supreme Court. I think that there are these
mostly procedural tantrums that some of these circuit court judges
have thrown about Trump executive orders are on incredibly shaky,
(29:01):
almost non existent legal ground in YEES cases. I mean,
with the with the federal buyout, it's but what if
it's like too fast and we have to just slow
this down. No, that's not that's not what a judge does.
A judge doesn't get to say the executive branch is
doing too many things. That's that's not a you know,
the executive branch has taken on too many functions within
(29:22):
its at it's.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Acting acting too much in the executive too.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Much efficiency, too much efficiency going you know, get getting
the mission done way too quickly, unacceptable. But it really
is the mentality within the federal government is don't be
too efficient don't be too good at what you do.
Just do the minimum and complain a lot about how
you're underpaid.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Just telling you.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
When we come back, we'll get set for the third
hour here with Marco Rubio schedule to join us and
Senator Ron Johnson. But Buck, I've got a clip that
I think you're going to enjoy where I went toe
to toe with a a guy who had not gotten
enough COVID shots, a left winger on Pierce Morgan Show.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think you'll enjoy this. We'll play it for you
here in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
But I want to tell you big game coming up
this weekend, biggest sporting event, Buck, Do you have any
idea what the biggest sporting event this weekend is Saturday?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Biggest sporting event on Saturday? NASCAR? Well, you know what.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You may have caught me a little bit a little
bit here. I think Sunday is the Daytona five hundred.
You were close. I think I might in a fact
check on Buck's history bucks sports knowledge here, which is
a first.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Because I'm shot in the dark.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
By the way, if I hit the target, that's pretty money.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
NASCAR is broad. But I think Sunday is the Daytona
five hundred. But what I was going for is Alabama
and Auburn. One versus two in basketball has never happened before.
Usually it's a big football matchup. One versus two has
never happened in football, but it's happening in basketball in
the state of Alabama. It's gonna be the biggest game.
(30:52):
And if you have prize picks, you can play along
and have a lot of fun with it. We use
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NASCAR Daytona five hundred is coming up. You've also got
the NBA All Star Game. March Madness is not far away.
Pitchers and catchers reporting in Major League Baseball. There are
a lot of different sports that are soon to be underway.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Why not have some fun.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
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Speaker 3 (31:54):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We will get some
calls here, if not right now, certain the next hour
and coming up we have a big hour for you.
We have Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, assuming he
doesn't have to deal with an imminent issue of world peace.
And if he does, that's fine, that's what the Secretary
of State has to do, but he should be with
us here shortly. And then also Senator Ron Johnson, we
talked about DOGE and a saving America from financial insolvency, which.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I think is a pretty big deal.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But Clay has felt a little pugilistic recently, as you
may have picked up he went to University of Chicago
and was busy stomping on The Atlantic on stage, which
it very much deserves. I might add the Atlantic is
a smug left wing journal of smug left wing opinion.
(32:42):
And then Clay decided to go on the Piers Morgan Show,
which I am told this clip is going to be entertaining.
You and one Roland Martin. Correct, mister Roland Martin having
a bit of an exchange. It's up at clayanbuck dot
com if you want to watch the video. But here
is how that went fired up.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I'm specifically asking you're going after an RFK junior for
not following government advice. You have chosen not to follow
government advice and get ten COVID shots like your government
has told you. Why are you not a science deni
or why are you not a shot DENI firstball.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Because I'm not a sassin that I'm not a siass denier.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm not a shot denier, and I also believe denying
science by only getting two.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
COVID shot signed way way, that's cute, but I'm not
denying side.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think you are eight COVID shots. You're saying shots.
I can show you the fifteen shots that I got
Deni Africa. This is play.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I don't we can share the show now with you
being such a science denial way way, your.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Little cute, your little cute little moment is cute, but.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It doesn't work. Okay, So but I did it work. Actually,
I think it worked. I think it works really well.
And this is my advice to all of you. If
people are saying to you, AREFK Junior, Oh it's a
I'm sure you're gonna hear it. You might hear it
from your kids, you might hear it from your spouses,
you might hear it from friends and family. Just ask
(34:13):
them how many COVID shots you get. I'm at zero,
but sorry laugh. Buck got the one that got pulled
off the market. I got the worst one. I'll never forget.
The nurse was like, you don't want this one, this
one doesn't work, and I was like, no, no, that's
the one New York City's making me get it. I'm
gonna get the one that doesn't do anything to remind people.
(34:35):
Because this is right after we started. They checked fax
cards so you could go to your brother's wedding. Yeah,
in New York City.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
The venue required sending a VAX card via email for
every guest in advance. So they had a list of everybody.
Because you know it's a wedding, it's expensive, you pay
per head. It was send us a VAX card for
every person on your list, or they will be barred
at the door. That was what we had to deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I mean, this is I mean, I think it's wor
worth mentioning how crazy town these people went. But a
lot of these people stopped listening because they recognized that
the COVID shot didn't stop you from getting COVID and
most people out there are not getting all these boosters.
So when they say that RFK Junior is a science
deny or which is what started that conversation, ask them
(35:21):
how many COVID shots they got and unless their answer
is eight or ten, then they are making a calculated
decision to analyze risk on their own and not accept
the full recommendation of the United States government. And I
bet almost none of you out there listening to us
right now have gotten eight, nine or ten COVID shots.
(35:45):
I bet you're not pincushions because you recognize that using
your brain and making the best decisions for you and
your health is actually the foundational element of individual freedom
in America. So I think it undercuts a lot of
the RFK anti vaccine talk. He's not anti most vaccines.
(36:07):
He just questions whether we need to be giving what
is the number? Now you're gonna find this out soon
seventy or something. It's seventy shots to a kid under one. Yeah,
I mean, I mean I think there starts to be
I mean, again, a lot is there, baby CEO. She's
gonna make all the necessary calls about all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I get it, and that's what every mom should be.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
But I never thought about it at all with my
kids until this COVID clap trap happened. And now I
think it's fair to say, are we over medicating kids?
I think the answer is probably yes. I want those
questions asked.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I actually was going through an old tennis bag the
other day and I found a disgusting little cloth mask
because you had to put on to walk onto the court.
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