June 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Dr. Phil joins Clay and Buck to discuss his special Dr. Phil Primetime: “TRUMP VERDICT: A Judicial Travesty," as well as give his reaction to the Fauci hearings on Capitol Hill. Bob Menendez will run as an independent in NJ senate race. Fireworks at Fauci hearing. Flashback to Clay's school board speech on masks. Caller wants GOP to talk more policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Fallout from
doctor Fauci's testimony continues, We're gonna have some cuts for you,
Marjorie Taylor Green, Jim Jordan and others really going after
him for schools being shut down for lockdowns four years later,
(00:22):
the fact that there have been no consequences still remains
crazy to me, and I bet to our guest as well.
Doctor Phil joins us. Now, doctor Phil, can you believe
And by the way, Philip McGraw, doctor Phil, as you
know him, You've got a story coming up on the
(00:43):
Trump verdicts. We'll get to that in a moment, But
can you believe that four years after all of our
schools shut down, so many people out there were not
allowed to work, that there's really been no consequences for
anyone who got all of this, that all the politicians
who stood behind it got reelected, that we basically have
(01:05):
never had any reckoning for what I think is the
biggest public policy failure in my life and for many
people out there other than Vietnam. I can't imagine what
you would even consider to be a similar level of
public policy failure in the last fifty or sixty years.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, I think it's an absolute outrage. And you know
I said at the time, everybody said that was some
kind of lunatic, But I said at the time that
the mismanagement of this quarantine was going to create more damage,
particularly for our young people, than the virus ever would,
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and that it was abandoning these children in the middle
of the biggest mental health crisis that we had ever seen,
the highest levels of depression, anxiety, and loneliness. And you know,
by the way, when it happened, the referrals for sexual
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abuse and a molestation and abuse dropped an average of
about fifty percent nationwide because the mandated reporters at the schools,
the coaches, teachers, counselors, weren't able to keep an eye
on these children. We instead abandoned them at home behind
locked doors with their abusers. Nobody seemed to even think
(02:29):
about that. Nobody's even talked about that. They shut it down.
We created a tremendous emotional developmental gap, educational gap. And
they knew, and what they said was, well, we did
the best we could with what we knew at the time. No,
they did not. They did not do the best they
could with what they knew at the time. They had
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a new hammer and everything looked like a nail. So
they went around shutting everything down. They ruined family businesses,
they ruined the educational system, and you know, now it's
all coming out that most of this was made up,
no science behind it whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Doctor Phil. Appreciate you being with us here on clan Buck.
I know that you have Airingtonnight on merrit Street Media.
Trump verdict a judicial travesty. Tell us what this is
going to walk around? We obviously just are all still
reeling a bit from the absurdity and also the very
dark day of the Trump conviction on this insane case.
(03:29):
What are you going through in this documentary? Why should
people tune in?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, listen, I'm not a lawyer. Don't mean to brag,
but I'm not. I approached this from a jury standpoint
because that's what I spent most of my professional career
doing is working as a trial sciences, trial scientist within
a litigation arena. And I'm looking at this in terms
of what was the jury presented with here? What did
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they see? And you know, we've got a case where
no one else in the history of New York has
ever been brought to trial on these kind of charges
for manipulating records in this context, and these were two
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different sets of charges. Both were time barred for statute limitations.
They only got brought back to life by combining them
and coming up with a new theory by which they
could be brought up to felony level. He's the only
person that's ever been charged in this way. It's by
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a judge that made contributions to organizations that were dedicated.
I mean, their mission statement was to stop the radical
right wing Trump agenda. Sort of rhetoric is what they used.
His daughter is a fundraiser for the Democrats. A DA
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who look the American Bar Association says that the mandate
for a prosecutor is to seek justice, not convictions. He
makes a commitment when he's campaigning that he's going to
get Trump. They made so many violations of due process
(05:28):
during this trial. All gets into the jury box, all
of these things that they get contaminated with, and so
for the first time in two hundred and thirty five years,
they get a felony conviction against the President with a
case that should have never been brought. And I don't
think they'll hold it on appeal, even though the Appellate
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Division in New York reverses about four percent of the time.
He may have to go to the federal ladder to
get up to a reversal. But they don't care because
all that will happen after the election. And it's interesting
that the left is so sensitive about labels that they
(06:12):
want to refer to convicted felons as justice involved individuals
rather than convicted felons until Trump gets convicted. Now he's
a convicted felon.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're going to be interviewing Trump at Mara Lago in
the near future, I think next week. I'm curious, how
long have you known this week?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's this week of airs on Thursday night?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Okay, how long have you known Trump on a personal level?
I'm sure you've met him years and years ago, because
I know initially Oprah and he were really tight. I
think that relationship is a bit fraid, we may say,
but I'm curious how long you've known Trump personally?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Probably fifteen twenty years. We've known each other, and we
you know, we don't have a daily relationship, but we
have a we have a good relationship, mutual respect for
one another, and we I talked to him last night
on the phone for a good while, and he understands
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that I'm going to do an O Hols barred interview
and asked the hard questions. But he also knows that
I think this was a travesty that I don't think
is the case that should have ever been brought. And
I think that he got targeted and I think he
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got really mistreated in the judicial system. I don't think
this was motivated by his conduct. I think it was
politically motivated.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
We're talking to doctor Phil. He's got a special airing tonight.
Trump verdict a judicial travesty, Doctor Phil. Working folks go
to to watch this?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
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It's a free app. You just download it and bang
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Speaker 3 (08:50):
Is great, and it's great that you're putting out this
documentary so quickly right after the verdict, because I think
a lot of people are. You know, there's there's the
this is absurd feeling that a lot of folks have,
I think, doctor Phil and then there's also the oh
my god, what's happening to our country feeling? And you
know those coexist. I would say myself that co exists
(09:13):
in my mind right now. But on the positive side
of things, I mean, what is your level of confidence
that more and more Americans are waking up to what
is being done to Donald Trump, who maybe weren't firmly
in the Trump camp before.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, you know, I think I've heard a lot of
people say I wasn't in the Trump camp before, but
I am now. I've had people tell me they've picked
up the computer, got on the computer or the phone
and made contributions and and well they should, because I
can tell you this is not about Donald Trump. This
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is about all of our right to do process. This
is about us not getting hijacked by a weaponized judicial
system because people don't like where we stand on issues.
He is standing in the gap for every one of us.
And this has to stop. We've got to stop weaponizing
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the legal system. And that's exactly what happened here. It's
come on, it's no coincidence that eight ten years after
the fact that right before the election he gets hauled
in and convicted of these charges. That and thirty four conviction. Look,
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they said it was a felony charge for every invoice
check and ledger entry, and they did it each month,
So this is overcharging. It shouldn't have been charged to
begin with. It was overcharged when they did it, and
it's just going to come back to bite them. And
(10:54):
I think what they're going to do is sentence him
to four more years in the White House, is what
they're going to do.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't know if you ever publicly say, do you
announce how you're going to vote in presidential elections? Have
you done it in the past, do you do it now?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And I am a political you know, I am totally
a political I talk about cultural issues, not political issues.
This is the most non productive Congress in over fifty years,
and as I think about it, that's probably a good thing.
We got enough laws. I think when they're gridlocked, I
feel safer than if they were.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I know a lot of people feel that way. They
wish that we would just do nothing right, like just
don't Now what's the physician rule?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
First, do no harm. There's a lot of harm being
done by politicians.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Boy, I agree, And you know what most people don't
realize is how much of our lives are impacted by
non elected officials like Fauci. He's not elected, He's hired
and appointed and making so many important decisions that we
all have to live with. And that's got to stop.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Last question for you, and I know we appreciate the
time encourage people to check that out. Why do you
think so many people in America today are afraid to
say I got it wrong. If Falci just came out
and said, you know what, we over protected. We shouldn't
have made kids wear masks. It was an error that
we made. In retrospect, I wish we could fix it.
(12:25):
I think a lot of people would not be happy,
but at least they would acknowledge that they got something wrong.
Why do you think so few people are willing just
to admit that they did something or got something wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know. I think it's narcissism, and I think they're
protecting their jobs and their book deals and their legacies,
and it's they're putting themselves ahead of the country. And
that needs to stop. We've got serious problems, and we
need serious people to deal with those problems instead of
folks that are just, you know, down there trying to
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feather their own nest. And I think he's a perfect
example of that. And that's the kind of things that
we're calling people to account at Merritt Street Media. And
that's the reason I started this network, frankly, and we're
doing exactly that. It's not political. I call him out
on both sides and give them a chance to tell
their story. And I am interviewing Trump on Thursday. I've
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got a series of request in to President Biden. I'm
interviewing Kennedy. I'm talking to everybody that's got a role
in all of this. So I'm giving everybody a chance
to talk. And we're doing a serious analysis on this case.
And I think when people hear what we have to
say tonight, they're going to be absolutely outraged.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I agree. We appreciate the time, Stary, look forward talking
to you again.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate every
time I talk to you. It's yes, great questions and
your audience is so responsive. I really appreciate it. Askaby
tune in. It's eight eight and seven Central tonight and
I'll be ready.
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Speaker 3 (15:38):
Welcome back in Team. Just an update here. We're talking
about Trump running and how the conviction, I mean it
is officially a conviction, is gonna affect thing. So far,
it has been rocket fuel for the Trump fundraising efforts,
and I think it will be for the Trump campaign overall,
but time will tell. But in the meantime, you have
(15:59):
Senator Menendez of New Jersey has filed this just today
Clay from the New Jersey Globe. Senator Menendez will enter
the race for the United States Senate today. He's got
the signatures two thousand signatures in Trenton, New Jersey. He
is seeking a fourth term as an independent. This guy,
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he by the skin of his teeth avoided conviction, is
actually a hung jury if I remember right. It was
a hung jury the first time around. Now they're bringing
a second federal indictment against him. You know, he's just
got like random wads of cash all over the place,
slots of hey, look, gold bars. And I'm a guy
who likes his precious metal, so I can't hate on
him for that. But I buy mine with money that
(16:43):
I make in the private sector. Like where did I
mind didn't come from some foreign country that's trying to avoid,
you know, tipping anybody off to who's paying Who do
you think how does this play out in New Jersey?
I mean, he he doesn't have to do much. New
Jersey is more competitive than it's been in a long time.
He doesn't have to do much. Things into a mess
running as an independent.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, I would think a couple of things, and we'll
talk a little bit about this. I can't imagine any
Republicans going to vote for him. Remember, there was only
a four point win for I think a three or
four point win in the governor's race in twenty one,
and as we mentioned UFC three to ZHO two in Newark,
there were a lot of Trump people one hundred thousand
(17:22):
people in Wildwood, New Jersey. So this could be a
bit of a mess. Also we mentioned it, but there's
talk that Joe Manchin might be throwing his name back
into the race, either for Senate or governor, now that
in West Virginia he's announced he's officially an independent. He's
pretending to leave the Democrats a lot of different moving
(17:43):
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We had
some fire works. I want to play some of those
fireworks for you. Let's start with I believe we have
Marjorie Taylor Green refusing to call doctor Fauci a doctor.
This is cut thirty.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Listen, do you think that's appropriate to the American people
deserve to be abused like that, mister Fauci, because you're
not doctor. You're mister Fauci. In my few minutes, No,
I don't need your answer. I want to talk about
this right here. I reclaim my time. I reclaim my time, mister,
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mister Truman voider.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Just in terms of the rules of decorum, are we
allowed to deny that a doctor is a doctor just
because we don't want him to be a doctor?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yes, because in my time, that man does not deserve
to have a license. As a matter of fact, it
should be revoked and he belongs into its suspend.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The general lady should recognize the doctor as a doctor.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So that's completely unacceptable to be able to deny doctor Fautchi,
who's here, a respected member of the medical community, his title,
and that's actually a personal attack on his carriage.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I have instructed her he's not respected, and.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
I've instructed her to address him as a doctor. I'm
not addressed.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Let's talk about Let's talk about this. I reclaimed time.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Doesn't like it, I don't have a problem with it.
Let's see if you like this one mark. It got
really feisty.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I look, I generally think MTG is feisty and fiery,
and I dig it. But let's hear how she keeps
going here? Play it.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Children in school were put in plastic bubbles because of
your science, your repulsive, evil science. And let's go back
to your very own email. You said earlier you don't
use email, Oh you do right here. This is your
own email where you said the typical mask you buy
in the drug store is not really effective in keeping
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out virus. I do not recommend that you wear a
ma ask. This is your email, this is your own words.
But yet children, children all over America were forced to
wear masks, healthy children forced to wear masks, muzzled in
their schools, and then they were forced to learn from
home because of your so called science and your medical suggestions,
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while you and all your cronies get paid from big Pharma.
You know that what this committee should be doing, we
should be recommending you to be prosecuted. We should be
writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for
crimes against humanity. You belong in prison, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean I agree with I agree with her sentiments entirely.
I think I just like Fauci more than she does.
But this is not Look who's no One's going to
prosecute it. So you can sit around and talk about
this all day long. They're not going to do it.
It's not going to happen. Republicans don't have the stones
to use the clay word. They simply do not. And
that's an indictment of Republicans perhaps, But anyone wants to
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does anyoneant to take the other side of his bet
with me? Is anything going to prosecute Fauci? No, they're
not going to prosecute Fauci. So then what are we
do sitting around talking about it? Clay? What I would
want to know is, and may you know, I'll offer
this up. I think are they still going on Capitol Hill?
I think that found Oh they just finished. Yeah, ask Fauci,
doctor Fauci, you were were you or were you or not?
(22:23):
Were you or were you not the biggest voice in
the government in twenty twenty and even bigger in twenty
twenty one with Biden? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And he would say, well, you know, there were many
voices in my staff and the bureaucrasy whatever. Would say okay, yeah,
but did you have influence? Yeah, youhood influence. Why is
it that when kids were playing musical instruments with masks
on with holes cut out, why didn't you say that
that was not necessary? When when kids in New York
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City were being made to sit on the ground outside
in forty degree weather and mask up between bites during
lunch because they're cowardly idiot adults around them didn't care
about their little fingers, you know, freezing together. Why didn't
you say that's not necessary, we shouldn't do that. In fact,
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the question they should ask Fauci is, did you ever,
at any point during the entire pandemic publicly speak out
against a worthless and too harsh restriction? Give me one
thing one time you did that, you would have a
lot of I am science and I am Fauci and
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he has no answer for it. Why not get him
on the record with that? And I know people get
so upset about the research going on the Wuhan lab
and everything else. Fauchi used cutouts, they're never gonna really
tie it to him. Yes, the virus came from Wuhan.
We all know that. We've known that a long time.
(23:58):
But in terms of blaming Auchi for it, did you
see what he was saying today? It was below my
pay grade. Those kinds of grants are below my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And also basically saying once we gave them the money,
we don't really know how they use it. My question
would be, why are we giving taxpayer funded grants to
Chinese hospital? Like that's that seems like a really poor
decision in general, Like I don't want my taxpayer dollars
going to any Chinese.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But this is what I This is what I mean, though,
I mean, there are ways to corner him and expose
him and get him on the record and saying I
won't call you doctor. You know, we make jokes about
Jill Biden here, but you know we're a radio talk show. Okay, Uh,
you know, doctor Joe Biden, all that stuff. You're on
Capitol Hill, he's under oath, he's before Congress. The question
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should be designed to get him to admit. I mean,
they should even push him more on Show Me one.
What is the study that supports that masking had any
efficacy whatsoever as a policy, Like, I want the I
don't want to hear that. There are many studies. I
want to know, what is the study that you would
most point to? You know, Clay, There's so many questions
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that they could ask And I'm not saying that none
of these questions got asked because we have to do
the show. We can't watch the whole hearing. But you
know what I mean. You know you's got to be precise.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Almost all of these I think would be better these
hearings if everybody deferred their time to the best possible questioner.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Who is the expert.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, Ran Paul, this is a house hearing, but whoever
the person in the house side, on the Senate side,
I agree, Rand Paul is going to grill Fauci because
you only get five minutes, and as a result, you
get a lot of grand standing. If you really want
to hold somebody accountable, one guy or gal should do
all the questions. Can we play Buck? Do you remember this?
This is whre right when we started. I want to
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play this and I encourage you guys, and we'll retweet
it at Clay and Buck. When they put masks back
on kids in August of twenty one in my home jurisdiction,
I went and spoke. This was one minute, but I
want all of you to go look at what was
said to me. For what I said three years ago.
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Now there's virtually nobody who will even defend but ever
having put kids in masks, almost everyone will acknowledge it
was wrong. Even in Williamson County, Tennessee, where I live
deep read Williamson County. The school board voted that kids
had to be in masks kindergarteners in August of twenty
twenty one. This is when throwback three years ago at
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the school board meeting, this was me good evening. I'm
Clay Travis.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I have two kids in Williamson County Public schools, fifth
grader and a first grader, and you all should be
ashamed of the choices that you were about freemake.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
We teach our kids that facts matter, That's why they
go to school.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The facts are these masks don't work. There isn't a
single scientific data that has ever proven that mass work.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Also, let's talk about risk analysis, which is the key.
I feel bad for all these people walking around in masks,
engaging in cosmetic theater, thinking that they are.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Making a difference against COVID.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
They are.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Our kids under twenty five year old, one in a
million chants that they are going to die of COVID.
They are more likely to be struck by lightning. They
are more likely to be struck by lightning. They are
more likely to die of the seasonal flu. Have any
of you ever mandated masks for the seasonal flu, will
shame on you, because every kid in Williamson County schools
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has been under more danger from the seasonal flu every
year than they are for COVID. I would tell every
parent here, don't let your kids wear masks.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So it's nice to be right, slow, go ahead. It's
nice to be right occasionally. But what I want you
guys to do is, if you go on social media,
look back in twenty twenty one at all the nasty
things people said to me for simply saying masks shouldn't
(28:08):
be mandated on elementary school kids, including my own children
who were attending the school that was going to be
requiring masks. Those people are still out there. None of
them have apologized, to my knowledge, none of them have
been held accountable. They didn't want you to be able
to be treated at hospitals. They rooted for your kids
(28:31):
to get sick. They wanted for you, They wanted you
to die because you wouldn't get the COVID shot. And
but question for you, I watched the hearing. Democrats are
still covering for Fauci, one of the big flaws that
we have in American life and I would say, Democrats, Republicans, independents,
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your own personal life, everybody out there, me included, admit
when you are wrong. So much would change if Fauci
came out. I don't even think it's very difficult Buck
and said, to your point, in retrospect, we did far
too much. I overprotected. I wish I could go back
(29:16):
and change some of the decisions we made.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And this is not just an issue of I told
you so, or Clay and I were right, Fauci was wrong,
which is obviously true, but it's they haven't corrected the
record such that if we had a considerably more dangerous
the Spanish influenza was orders of magnitude more dangerous than COVID,
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that is beyond question.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, far greater to young people too, to kids, to
young people, and the.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Prodishly killed a lot of young people in the second wave,
people like eight you know, prime of life, eighteen to
forty was where it was most dangerous. Yes, so we
I'll tell you this. I still get an you know,
I want to find out who's making these calls and
all this stuff at TikTok, because now that Trump's on
and people start to pay attention to TikTok want to
(30:06):
get banned. Stop being a bunch of damn communist TikTok
because I just got to strike recently, Clay. They still
will give you on social media. They'll give you strikes
and bands and all kinds of things for saying things
like masks don't work, for saying things like the vaccines
don't prevent the spread. Even today, Fauci on on Capitol
Hill was saying, well, the vaccines, they work to prevent
(30:30):
the spread initially, but then a vaccine that works for
a couple of weeks is not a vaccine, okay. And
you can't even do a study that shows whether it
worked for a couple of weeks. It is all full crap. Unfortunately,
people in Congress generally don't have much of a background
in statistics or math, or you know, a whole bunch
of things. But they haven't even corrected the record. Clay.
(30:54):
We would face the same thing again. I still don't,
don't you. I still see people walking around. I know
I still see people doing this, and a Fauci, more
than any other human being on the planet, could make
it so you never have to go through this madness again.
The human race will never have to do this again,
and he won't do it because he is a gutless,
(31:17):
disgusting coward.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Remember when you couldn't compare COVID to the flu. Over
the weekend, The New York Times has an article up
that I read saying, is it COVID allergies or a cold?
The difficulties associated with knowing why your nose is running.
They're now comparing COVID to allergies and the cold. Fauci
(31:44):
today claimed three million people's lives were saved by the
COVID shot, and I would just point out that every
single human basically on the planet has gotten COVID. The
reason why COVID stopped working was because everybody got it
and everybody started to have immunities to it. It had
nothing to do with the worthless COVID shot. In fact,
(32:06):
the data actually reflects that the COVID shot probably prolonged
the amount of time that people kept getting and spreading
COVID because it actually makes you in many ways, it
appears more susceptible to getting COVID again. We'll talk about
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Speaker 3 (33:56):
Welcome back into Clay and Bok. I'm going to take
some of your calls here in just a moment, so
we will do that. Also, we will return to the
state of the campaign and some moves on immigration, illegal
immigration from the Biden and Trump camps coming out over
the weekend that I think are worth us diving into
as a matter of policy. And let's see, we have callers.
(34:21):
Where did there we go? We have Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill,
what have you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yes, yes, yes, sir, you're on Hey, okay, yeah, I
just wanted to comment and say the Republicans, the Conservatives
are still dropping the ball here. I mean, we generally
people don't care about what's in the past.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is in the past.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
We need to come out and tell us the plan.
You know, we know the New Green Deal is a
bad plan. What is the Republican plan? You know, Pennsylvania
is literally sitting on a bunch of natural gas that
if you look at Pickets plan Boom Tickets planned back
years ago that was to convert all tractor trailers over
to natural gas, which would immensely clean up the atmosphere,
(35:09):
you know, and go from there on different things. Uh.
And we're also skyrocket uh you know our economy. Uh.
If you want to talk about the border, the border,
you just take the numbs.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, is it you?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Is it your contention that we don't talk enough about
the border or energy policy?
Speaker 6 (35:29):
You guys talk about it, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I think it means Republican politicians.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Yeah, it goes to these rallies and you know, beats
up on Biden, and yes, his supporters love it, but
the people that are the independents don't. They want to
know what he's going to do for them. You know,
I've I've talked to many people that they say both
of them are bad, and I say, yeah, they are,
but the right is immensely better on policy. So you've
(35:55):
got to stick to policy. If you don't stick to policy,
you can be beat. But if you stick to policy,
we have a better polishing.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah we agree, Yeah, yes, good, I mean good, A
good call and then welcome reminder.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Okay, cool, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
All right, we come back. Buck, We've got Hunter Biden
on trial jury. Do we think he's going to be convicted?
What do we think the impact is going to be there.
We'll continue with a little bit of this Fauci discussion,
but also starting to get some numbers and guess what,
nothing's changing on the Trump conviction. In fact, it feels
(36:32):
like already everybody's turning the page. Are we basically already
in trench warfare. Nobody's going to change their mind no
matter what in the election. It's what it's feeling like.
We'll discuss that and more all that coming final hour
Monday edition.
Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Fallout from
doctor Fauci's testimony continues, We're gonna have some cuts for you,
Marjorie Taylor Green, Jim Jordan and others really going after
him for schools being shut down for lockdowns four years later,
(00:22):
the fact that there have been no consequences still remains
crazy to me, and I bet to our guest as well.
Doctor Phil joins us. Now, doctor Phil, can you believe
And by the way, Philip McGraw, doctor Phil, as you
know him, You've got a story coming up on the
(00:43):
Trump verdicts. We'll get to that in a moment, But
can you believe that four years after all of our
schools shut down, so many people out there were not
allowed to work, that there's really been no consequences for
anyone who got all of this, that all the politicians
who stood behind it got reelected, that we basically have
(01:05):
never had any reckoning for what I think is the
biggest public policy failure in my life and for many
people out there other than Vietnam. I can't imagine what
you would even consider to be a similar level of
public policy failure in the last fifty or sixty years.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Well, I think it's an absolute outrage. And you know
I said at the time, everybody said that was some
kind of lunatic, But I said at the time that
the mismanagement of this quarantine was going to create more damage,
particularly for our young people, than the virus ever would,
(01:47):
and that it was abandoning these children in the middle
of the biggest mental health crisis that we had ever seen,
the highest levels of depression, anxiety, and loneliness. And you know,
by the way, when it happened, the referrals for sexual
(02:08):
abuse and a molestation and abuse dropped an average of
about fifty percent nationwide because the mandated reporters at the schools,
the coaches, teachers, counselors, weren't able to keep an eye
on these children. We instead abandoned them at home behind
locked doors with their abusers. Nobody seemed to even think
(02:29):
about that. Nobody's even talked about that. They shut it down.
We created a tremendous emotional developmental gap, educational gap. And
they knew, and what they said was, well, we did
the best we could with what we knew at the time. No,
they did not. They did not do the best they
could with what they knew at the time. They had
(02:51):
a new hammer and everything looked like a nail. So
they went around shutting everything down. They ruined family businesses,
they ruined the educational system, and you know, now it's
all coming out that most of this was made up,
no science behind it whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Doctor Phil. Appreciate you being with us here on clan Buck.
I know that you have Airingtonnight on merrit Street Media.
Trump verdict a judicial travesty. Tell us what this is
going to walk around? We obviously just are all still
reeling a bit from the absurdity and also the very
dark day of the Trump conviction on this insane case.
(03:29):
What are you going through in this documentary? Why should
people tune in?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, listen, I'm not a lawyer. Don't mean to brag,
but I'm not. I approached this from a jury standpoint
because that's what I spent most of my professional career
doing is working as a trial sciences, trial scientist within
a litigation arena. And I'm looking at this in terms
of what was the jury presented with here? What did
(03:54):
they see? And you know, we've got a case where
no one else in the history of New York has
ever been brought to trial on these kind of charges
for manipulating records in this context, and these were two
(04:18):
different sets of charges. Both were time barred for statute limitations.
They only got brought back to life by combining them
and coming up with a new theory by which they
could be brought up to felony level. He's the only
person that's ever been charged in this way. It's by
(04:41):
a judge that made contributions to organizations that were dedicated.
I mean, their mission statement was to stop the radical
right wing Trump agenda. Sort of rhetoric is what they used.
His daughter is a fundraiser for the Democrats. A DA
(05:08):
who look the American Bar Association says that the mandate
for a prosecutor is to seek justice, not convictions. He
makes a commitment when he's campaigning that he's going to
get Trump. They made so many violations of due process
(05:28):
during this trial. All gets into the jury box, all
of these things that they get contaminated with, and so
for the first time in two hundred and thirty five years,
they get a felony conviction against the President with a
case that should have never been brought. And I don't
think they'll hold it on appeal, even though the Appellate
(05:51):
Division in New York reverses about four percent of the time.
He may have to go to the federal ladder to
get up to a reversal. But they don't care because
all that will happen after the election. And it's interesting
that the left is so sensitive about labels that they
(06:12):
want to refer to convicted felons as justice involved individuals
rather than convicted felons until Trump gets convicted. Now he's
a convicted felon.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're going to be interviewing Trump at Mara Lago in
the near future, I think next week. I'm curious, how
long have you known this week?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It's this week of airs on Thursday night?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Okay, how long have you known Trump on a personal level?
I'm sure you've met him years and years ago, because
I know initially Oprah and he were really tight. I
think that relationship is a bit fraid, we may say,
but I'm curious how long you've known Trump personally?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Probably fifteen twenty years. We've known each other, and we
you know, we don't have a daily relationship, but we
have a we have a good relationship, mutual respect for
one another, and we I talked to him last night
on the phone for a good while, and he understands
(07:13):
that I'm going to do an O Hols barred interview
and asked the hard questions. But he also knows that
I think this was a travesty that I don't think
is the case that should have ever been brought. And
I think that he got targeted and I think he
(07:36):
got really mistreated in the judicial system. I don't think
this was motivated by his conduct. I think it was
politically motivated.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
We're talking to doctor Phil. He's got a special airing tonight.
Trump verdict a judicial travesty, Doctor Phil. Working folks go
to to watch this?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, you know, my new network is Merritt Street Media
and all you have to do is go to meritstreetmedia
dot com and when you open it up, there's a
homepage sex channel finder. You just click that button and
it says put in your zip code and it'll tell
you what channel it is in your area. Or you
(08:19):
can go to Apple, the Apple Store or Google Play
and download Merit Plus and get the app and you
can watch it for free on your iPad, computer, phone, whatever.
It's a free app. You just download it and bang
(08:40):
it opens right up and you just hit live and
it's right there. You can watch it when it airs
or anytime after that. So the Merit plus app.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Is great, and it's great that you're putting out this
documentary so quickly right after the verdict, because I think
a lot of people are. You know, there's there's the
this is absurd feeling that a lot of folks have,
I think, doctor Phil and then there's also the oh
my god, what's happening to our country feeling? And you
know those coexist. I would say myself that co exists
(09:13):
in my mind right now. But on the positive side
of things, I mean, what is your level of confidence
that more and more Americans are waking up to what
is being done to Donald Trump, who maybe weren't firmly
in the Trump camp before.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, you know, I think I've heard a lot of
people say I wasn't in the Trump camp before, but
I am now. I've had people tell me they've picked
up the computer, got on the computer or the phone
and made contributions and and well they should, because I
can tell you this is not about Donald Trump. This
(09:48):
is about all of our right to do process. This
is about us not getting hijacked by a weaponized judicial
system because people don't like where we stand on issues.
He is standing in the gap for every one of us.
And this has to stop. We've got to stop weaponizing
(10:12):
the legal system. And that's exactly what happened here. It's
come on, it's no coincidence that eight ten years after
the fact that right before the election he gets hauled
in and convicted of these charges. That and thirty four conviction. Look,
(10:34):
they said it was a felony charge for every invoice
check and ledger entry, and they did it each month,
So this is overcharging. It shouldn't have been charged to
begin with. It was overcharged when they did it, and
it's just going to come back to bite them. And
(10:54):
I think what they're going to do is sentence him
to four more years in the White House, is what
they're going to do.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I don't know if you ever publicly say, do you
announce how you're going to vote in presidential elections? Have
you done it in the past, do you do it now?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And I am a political you know, I am totally
a political I talk about cultural issues, not political issues.
This is the most non productive Congress in over fifty years,
and as I think about it, that's probably a good thing.
We got enough laws. I think when they're gridlocked, I
feel safer than if they were.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I know a lot of people feel that way. They
wish that we would just do nothing right, like just
don't Now what's the physician rule?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
First, do no harm. There's a lot of harm being
done by politicians.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Boy, I agree, And you know what most people don't
realize is how much of our lives are impacted by
non elected officials like Fauci. He's not elected, He's hired
and appointed and making so many important decisions that we
all have to live with. And that's got to stop.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Last question for you, and I know we appreciate the
time encourage people to check that out. Why do you
think so many people in America today are afraid to
say I got it wrong. If Falci just came out
and said, you know what, we over protected. We shouldn't
have made kids wear masks. It was an error that
we made. In retrospect, I wish we could fix it.
(12:25):
I think a lot of people would not be happy,
but at least they would acknowledge that they got something wrong.
Why do you think so few people are willing just
to admit that they did something or got something wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You know. I think it's narcissism, and I think they're
protecting their jobs and their book deals and their legacies,
and it's they're putting themselves ahead of the country. And
that needs to stop. We've got serious problems, and we
need serious people to deal with those problems instead of
folks that are just, you know, down there trying to
(13:01):
feather their own nest. And I think he's a perfect
example of that. And that's the kind of things that
we're calling people to account at Merritt Street Media. And
that's the reason I started this network, frankly, and we're
doing exactly that. It's not political. I call him out
on both sides and give them a chance to tell
their story. And I am interviewing Trump on Thursday. I've
(13:24):
got a series of request in to President Biden. I'm
interviewing Kennedy. I'm talking to everybody that's got a role
in all of this. So I'm giving everybody a chance
to talk. And we're doing a serious analysis on this case.
And I think when people hear what we have to
say tonight, they're going to be absolutely outraged.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I agree. We appreciate the time, Stary, look forward talking
to you again.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate every
time I talk to you. It's yes, great questions and
your audience is so responsive. I really appreciate it. Askaby
tune in. It's eight eight and seven Central tonight and
I'll be ready.
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Speaker 3 (15:38):
Welcome back in Team. Just an update here. We're talking
about Trump running and how the conviction, I mean it
is officially a conviction, is gonna affect thing. So far,
it has been rocket fuel for the Trump fundraising efforts,
and I think it will be for the Trump campaign overall,
but time will tell. But in the meantime, you have
(15:59):
Senator Menendez of New Jersey has filed this just today
Clay from the New Jersey Globe. Senator Menendez will enter
the race for the United States Senate today. He's got
the signatures two thousand signatures in Trenton, New Jersey. He
is seeking a fourth term as an independent. This guy,
(16:21):
he by the skin of his teeth avoided conviction, is
actually a hung jury if I remember right. It was
a hung jury the first time around. Now they're bringing
a second federal indictment against him. You know, he's just
got like random wads of cash all over the place,
slots of hey, look, gold bars. And I'm a guy
who likes his precious metal, so I can't hate on
him for that. But I buy mine with money that
(16:43):
I make in the private sector. Like where did I
mind didn't come from some foreign country that's trying to avoid,
you know, tipping anybody off to who's paying Who do
you think how does this play out in New Jersey?
I mean, he he doesn't have to do much. New
Jersey is more competitive than it's been in a long time.
He doesn't have to do much. Things into a mess
running as an independent.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, I would think a couple of things, and we'll
talk a little bit about this. I can't imagine any
Republicans going to vote for him. Remember, there was only
a four point win for I think a three or
four point win in the governor's race in twenty one,
and as we mentioned UFC three to ZHO two in Newark,
there were a lot of Trump people one hundred thousand
(17:22):
people in Wildwood, New Jersey. So this could be a
bit of a mess. Also we mentioned it, but there's
talk that Joe Manchin might be throwing his name back
into the race, either for Senate or governor, now that
in West Virginia he's announced he's officially an independent. He's
pretending to leave the Democrats a lot of different moving
(17:43):
parts as we sit here five months away from official
election day, and I would say sort of a panic
going on in the Democrat Party. Not a lot of
sense being made.
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Speaker 1 (18:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We had
some fire works. I want to play some of those
fireworks for you. Let's start with I believe we have
Marjorie Taylor Green refusing to call doctor Fauci a doctor.
This is cut thirty.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Listen, do you think that's appropriate to the American people
deserve to be abused like that, mister Fauci, because you're
not doctor. You're mister Fauci. In my few minutes, No,
I don't need your answer. I want to talk about
this right here. I reclaim my time. I reclaim my time, mister,
(19:37):
mister Truman voider.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Just in terms of the rules of decorum, are we
allowed to deny that a doctor is a doctor just
because we don't want him to be a doctor?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yes, because in my time, that man does not deserve
to have a license. As a matter of fact, it
should be revoked and he belongs into its suspend.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
The general lady should recognize the doctor as a doctor.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
So that's completely unacceptable to be able to deny doctor Fautchi,
who's here, a respected member of the medical community, his title,
and that's actually a personal attack on his carriage.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I have instructed her he's not respected, and.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
I've instructed her to address him as a doctor. I'm
not addressed.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Let's talk about Let's talk about this. I reclaimed time.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Doesn't like it, I don't have a problem with it.
Let's see if you like this one mark. It got
really feisty.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I look, I generally think MTG is feisty and fiery,
and I dig it. But let's hear how she keeps
going here? Play it.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Children in school were put in plastic bubbles because of
your science, your repulsive, evil science. And let's go back
to your very own email. You said earlier you don't
use email, Oh you do right here. This is your
own email where you said the typical mask you buy
in the drug store is not really effective in keeping
(20:56):
out virus. I do not recommend that you wear a
ma ask. This is your email, this is your own words.
But yet children, children all over America were forced to
wear masks, healthy children forced to wear masks, muzzled in
their schools, and then they were forced to learn from
home because of your so called science and your medical suggestions,
(21:21):
while you and all your cronies get paid from big Pharma.
You know that what this committee should be doing, we
should be recommending you to be prosecuted. We should be
writing a criminal referral because you should be prosecuted for
crimes against humanity. You belong in prison, doctor Fauci.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean I agree with I agree with her sentiments entirely.
I think I just like Fauci more than she does.
But this is not Look who's no One's going to
prosecute it. So you can sit around and talk about
this all day long. They're not going to do it.
It's not going to happen. Republicans don't have the stones
to use the clay word. They simply do not. And
that's an indictment of Republicans perhaps, But anyone wants to
(22:01):
does anyoneant to take the other side of his bet
with me? Is anything going to prosecute Fauci? No, they're
not going to prosecute Fauci. So then what are we
do sitting around talking about it? Clay? What I would
want to know is, and may you know, I'll offer
this up. I think are they still going on Capitol Hill?
I think that found Oh they just finished. Yeah, ask Fauci,
doctor Fauci, you were were you or were you or not?
(22:23):
Were you or were you not the biggest voice in
the government in twenty twenty and even bigger in twenty
twenty one with Biden? Yes or no?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And he would say, well, you know, there were many
voices in my staff and the bureaucrasy whatever. Would say okay, yeah,
but did you have influence? Yeah, youhood influence. Why is
it that when kids were playing musical instruments with masks
on with holes cut out, why didn't you say that
that was not necessary? When when kids in New York
(22:53):
City were being made to sit on the ground outside
in forty degree weather and mask up between bites during
lunch because they're cowardly idiot adults around them didn't care
about their little fingers, you know, freezing together. Why didn't
you say that's not necessary, we shouldn't do that. In fact,
(23:15):
the question they should ask Fauci is, did you ever,
at any point during the entire pandemic publicly speak out
against a worthless and too harsh restriction? Give me one
thing one time you did that, you would have a
lot of I am science and I am Fauci and
(23:37):
he has no answer for it. Why not get him
on the record with that? And I know people get
so upset about the research going on the Wuhan lab
and everything else. Fauchi used cutouts, they're never gonna really
tie it to him. Yes, the virus came from Wuhan.
We all know that. We've known that a long time.
(23:58):
But in terms of blaming Auchi for it, did you
see what he was saying today? It was below my
pay grade. Those kinds of grants are below my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And also basically saying once we gave them the money,
we don't really know how they use it. My question
would be, why are we giving taxpayer funded grants to
Chinese hospital? Like that's that seems like a really poor
decision in general, Like I don't want my taxpayer dollars
going to any Chinese.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
But this is what I This is what I mean, though,
I mean, there are ways to corner him and expose
him and get him on the record and saying I
won't call you doctor. You know, we make jokes about
Jill Biden here, but you know we're a radio talk show. Okay, Uh,
you know, doctor Joe Biden, all that stuff. You're on
Capitol Hill, he's under oath, he's before Congress. The question
(24:45):
should be designed to get him to admit. I mean,
they should even push him more on Show Me one.
What is the study that supports that masking had any
efficacy whatsoever as a policy, Like, I want the I
don't want to hear that. There are many studies. I
want to know, what is the study that you would
most point to? You know, Clay, There's so many questions
(25:07):
that they could ask And I'm not saying that none
of these questions got asked because we have to do
the show. We can't watch the whole hearing. But you
know what I mean. You know you's got to be precise.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Almost all of these I think would be better these
hearings if everybody deferred their time to the best possible questioner.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Who is the expert.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, Ran Paul, this is a house hearing, but whoever
the person in the house side, on the Senate side,
I agree, Rand Paul is going to grill Fauci because
you only get five minutes, and as a result, you
get a lot of grand standing. If you really want
to hold somebody accountable, one guy or gal should do
all the questions. Can we play Buck? Do you remember this?
This is whre right when we started. I want to
(25:47):
play this and I encourage you guys, and we'll retweet
it at Clay and Buck. When they put masks back
on kids in August of twenty one in my home jurisdiction,
I went and spoke. This was one minute, but I
want all of you to go look at what was
said to me. For what I said three years ago.
(26:07):
Now there's virtually nobody who will even defend but ever
having put kids in masks, almost everyone will acknowledge it
was wrong. Even in Williamson County, Tennessee, where I live
deep read Williamson County. The school board voted that kids
had to be in masks kindergarteners in August of twenty
twenty one. This is when throwback three years ago at
(26:30):
the school board meeting, this was me good evening. I'm
Clay Travis.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
I have two kids in Williamson County Public schools, fifth
grader and a first grader, and you all should be
ashamed of the choices that you were about freemake.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
We teach our kids that facts matter, That's why they
go to school.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The facts are these masks don't work. There isn't a
single scientific data that has ever proven that mass work.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Also, let's talk about risk analysis, which is the key.
I feel bad for all these people walking around in masks,
engaging in cosmetic theater, thinking that they are.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Making a difference against COVID.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
They are.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Here's the truth.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Our kids under twenty five year old, one in a
million chants that they are going to die of COVID.
They are more likely to be struck by lightning. They
are more likely to be struck by lightning. They are
more likely to die of the seasonal flu. Have any
of you ever mandated masks for the seasonal flu, will
shame on you, because every kid in Williamson County schools
(27:28):
has been under more danger from the seasonal flu every
year than they are for COVID. I would tell every
parent here, don't let your kids wear masks.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So it's nice to be right, slow, go ahead. It's
nice to be right occasionally. But what I want you
guys to do is, if you go on social media,
look back in twenty twenty one at all the nasty
things people said to me for simply saying masks shouldn't
(28:08):
be mandated on elementary school kids, including my own children
who were attending the school that was going to be
requiring masks. Those people are still out there. None of
them have apologized, to my knowledge, none of them have
been held accountable. They didn't want you to be able
to be treated at hospitals. They rooted for your kids
(28:31):
to get sick. They wanted for you, They wanted you
to die because you wouldn't get the COVID shot. And
but question for you, I watched the hearing. Democrats are
still covering for Fauci, one of the big flaws that
we have in American life and I would say, Democrats, Republicans, independents,
(28:54):
your own personal life, everybody out there, me included, admit
when you are wrong. So much would change if Fauci
came out. I don't even think it's very difficult Buck
and said, to your point, in retrospect, we did far
too much. I overprotected. I wish I could go back
(29:16):
and change some of the decisions we made.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And this is not just an issue of I told
you so, or Clay and I were right, Fauci was wrong,
which is obviously true, but it's they haven't corrected the
record such that if we had a considerably more dangerous
the Spanish influenza was orders of magnitude more dangerous than COVID,
(29:40):
that is beyond question.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, far greater to young people too, to kids, to
young people, and the.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Prodishly killed a lot of young people in the second wave,
people like eight you know, prime of life, eighteen to
forty was where it was most dangerous. Yes, so we
I'll tell you this. I still get an you know,
I want to find out who's making these calls and
all this stuff at TikTok, because now that Trump's on
and people start to pay attention to TikTok want to
(30:06):
get banned. Stop being a bunch of damn communist TikTok
because I just got to strike recently, Clay. They still
will give you on social media. They'll give you strikes
and bands and all kinds of things for saying things
like masks don't work, for saying things like the vaccines
don't prevent the spread. Even today, Fauci on on Capitol
Hill was saying, well, the vaccines, they work to prevent
(30:30):
the spread initially, but then a vaccine that works for
a couple of weeks is not a vaccine, okay. And
you can't even do a study that shows whether it
worked for a couple of weeks. It is all full crap. Unfortunately,
people in Congress generally don't have much of a background
in statistics or math, or you know, a whole bunch
of things. But they haven't even corrected the record. Clay.
(30:54):
We would face the same thing again. I still don't,
don't you. I still see people walking around. I know
I still see people doing this, and a Fauci, more
than any other human being on the planet, could make
it so you never have to go through this madness again.
The human race will never have to do this again,
and he won't do it because he is a gutless,
(31:17):
disgusting coward.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Remember when you couldn't compare COVID to the flu. Over
the weekend, The New York Times has an article up
that I read saying, is it COVID allergies or a cold?
The difficulties associated with knowing why your nose is running.
They're now comparing COVID to allergies and the cold. Fauci
(31:44):
today claimed three million people's lives were saved by the
COVID shot, and I would just point out that every
single human basically on the planet has gotten COVID. The
reason why COVID stopped working was because everybody got it
and everybody started to have immunities to it. It had
nothing to do with the worthless COVID shot. In fact,
(32:06):
the data actually reflects that the COVID shot probably prolonged
the amount of time that people kept getting and spreading
COVID because it actually makes you in many ways, it
appears more susceptible to getting COVID again. We'll talk about
it in the meantime. I've been down with my family
in Panama City Beach area on thirty a past several weeks.
(32:31):
But I'm sure you've noticed this price on everything's gone up.
Fast food fifty seven dollars for us Birmingham, Alabama family
of five went to a Chick fil A on our
drive down to the beach. Fifty seven dollars. It cost
me to feed the three boys, me and my wife.
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Speaker 3 (33:56):
Welcome back into Clay and Bok. I'm going to take
some of your calls here in just a moment, so
we will do that. Also, we will return to the
state of the campaign and some moves on immigration, illegal
immigration from the Biden and Trump camps coming out over
the weekend that I think are worth us diving into
as a matter of policy. And let's see, we have callers.
(34:21):
Where did there we go? We have Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill,
what have you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yes, yes, yes, sir, you're on Hey, okay, yeah, I
just wanted to comment and say the Republicans, the Conservatives
are still dropping the ball here. I mean, we generally
people don't care about what's in the past.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is in the past.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
We need to come out and tell us the plan.
You know, we know the New Green Deal is a
bad plan. What is the Republican plan? You know, Pennsylvania
is literally sitting on a bunch of natural gas that
if you look at Pickets plan Boom Tickets planned back
years ago that was to convert all tractor trailers over
to natural gas, which would immensely clean up the atmosphere,
(35:09):
you know, and go from there on different things. Uh.
And we're also skyrocket uh you know our economy. Uh.
If you want to talk about the border, the border,
you just take the numbs.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Okay, is it you?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Is it your contention that we don't talk enough about
the border or energy policy?
Speaker 6 (35:29):
You guys talk about it, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I think it means Republican politicians.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Yeah, it goes to these rallies and you know, beats
up on Biden, and yes, his supporters love it, but
the people that are the independents don't. They want to
know what he's going to do for them. You know,
I've I've talked to many people that they say both
of them are bad, and I say, yeah, they are,
but the right is immensely better on policy. So you've
(35:55):
got to stick to policy. If you don't stick to policy,
you can be beat. But if you stick to policy,
we have a better polishing.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah we agree, Yeah, yes, good, I mean good, A
good call and then welcome reminder.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Okay, cool, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
All right, we come back. Buck, We've got Hunter Biden
on trial jury. Do we think he's going to be convicted?
What do we think the impact is going to be there.
We'll continue with a little bit of this Fauci discussion,
but also starting to get some numbers and guess what,
nothing's changing on the Trump conviction. In fact, it feels
(36:32):
like already everybody's turning the page. Are we basically already
in trench warfare. Nobody's going to change their mind no
matter what in the election. It's what it's feeling like.
We'll discuss that and more all that coming final hour
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