August 29, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump National Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt talks to Clay about the Trump campaign, Kamal's CNN interview, the upcoming debate and how Trump can reach out to young women. The New York Post's Miranda Devine on threats to free speech, and the dominance of the left-wing media. Joe Scarborough said the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, but he's never corrected it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in hour number two Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Buck on vacation this week with
his lovely wife Carrie. He will be back Tuesday, right
after Labor Day. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We've been talking about the big CNN interview with Kamala
Harris and Tim Walls and the fact that Dana Bash
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likely will be in the tank and not ask real questions.
I laid out all those real questions for all of
you joining us now. Is a woman who makes a
living answering real questions all over the media landscape. She
is new mom. Caroline Levitt been on the show with
us for many years now. Caroline, appreciate you coming on
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with us. How wild is the campaign season for you?
What's happening Labor Day weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, what's going on today? It is absolutely wild, especially
being a new mom, no doubt about it. And now
we're about to be in the post Labor Day sprint.
It's going to get even crazier. Last week, the American
people saw President Trump barnstorming the country. He was in
I think seven states in the matter of five days,
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and that's what they can expect moving forward. The President
works harder than anyone I know, and we're going to
be all over the country, criss crossing all the battleground states,
bring in his message and contrasting his record of success
with Kamala's record of failures and weakness. We're very excited
about the big debate on September tenth. We have finally
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agreed to terms with the Harris campaign. They tried to
backtrack a little bit on us. They wanted Kammlin to
bring in notes. I think they're getting worried because they
know she's incapable of speaking without a teleprompter nearby. But
we hope that she'll show up on the tenth. President
Trump will be there no matter what, and we're excited
about it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, tell us about that debate on September tenth. My
understanding is it's going to be in Philadelphia. There will
be no audience President, they will be standing, The mics
will be muted when you know the other candidate is
not speaking. In other words, the candidate who is speaking
can speak, but the other one cannot, and then no notes.
(02:07):
Am I right about all those details.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You are correct about all of those details. It is
the exact same rules and ground game that we had
in the CNN debate with Joe Biden, and our campaign
and the Harris campaign agreed to those terms to keep
it the same and then, frankly, it worked out quite
well for us, didn't it. It knocked Joe Biden out of
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the race. I mean, the reason we have Kamala Harris
today is because President Trump dominated him in that debate
so much so it really exposed his cognitive decline. However,
the Harris campaign again, they tried to backtrack in the
past week. They wanted her to bring in notes. They
blamed it on the mics. That wasn't it. They're realizing
as they a prep Kamala for the debate that she
is ill equipped of explaining policy. She doesn't know where
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she stands. They're trying to make her look like a
moderate when she is not. She is truly a radical liberal.
They're having a hard time with it, but nevertheless, we
came to an agreement. It is set in stone and
September tenth is the big night.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, Kamala is doing an interview tonight with CNN. I
don't know exactly what time they're taping, but it's with
Dana Bash, who was one of the moderators of the
June twenty seventh debate alongside of Jake Tapper. If I
remember correctly, when Trump, your boss knocked out Joe Biden
legitimately knocked him out of politics. What do you expect
the interview to look like for Dana Bash and Walls
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and Harris Part one, Part two? You are the campaign spokesperson.
I would bet that the Trump team doesn't tell you, Hey,
you need to take a boy with you when you
do an interview as a woman. Do you see Kamala
Harris needing to bring a man with her for an
interview when she's claiming that she wants to be commander
in chief as a pretty significant sign of weakness.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I absolutely do, and frankly, I think it sends a
horrible message to women and girls across the country who
are watching her campaign and seeing her run as the
the first hopeful female president of the United States, and
she can't even sit down for an interview by herself.
I think it's actually quite sad and set the horrible example.
But the CNN interview is set to pre tape. Nevertheless,
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in about an hour from now, And look, Clay, I've
aired my grievances with Dana Bass and Jake Tapper before.
I think in the debate with President Trump and Joe Biden,
they actually proved to be quite fair. And I hope
that Dana Bash will be fair and tough against Kamala
Harris in the same way she was against Senator jd
Vance last week when he sat down with her for
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more than an hour long interview and answered tough questions
about issues and policy and things that he has said
in the past. She needs to question Kamala Harris about
the things she has said in the past, like does
she still support her radical ban on tracking, does she
still support the decriminalization of illegal immigration, does she still
support eliminating task bill for violent criminals? And why did
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she and Walls allow violent rioters to burn down and
if in businesses and homes in the summer of twenty
twenty and Kamala went on to build those people out
of jail. So, look, there are a lot of questions
that need to be asked and answered of Kamala Harris tonight.
It is CNN's responsibility to do so. We hope that
they will, and we will have to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Do you think that there will be a second debate
between Trump and Kamala Harris? We know she was afraid
and unwilling to do. I think it was September fourth,
on Fox News, President Trump suggested Martha McCollum and Brett
Bayer as moderators. I think that would have been very fair.
I think both of them do great work. This is
me personally. I've been on both their shows. I think
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they have very fair shows. They certainly even I think
President Trump wasn't happy with Brett Bayer for one interview
because he thought he was too tough or didn't like
some of the questions. But Trump was willing to go
and do the Fox News debate. Do you think Kamala
will try to do only one? Do you think there
will be a second one?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, we certainly want there to be more than one.
I can tell you that President Trump has committed to
three debates with Kamala Harris. She's of course, only committed
to the ABC debate, but he committed to one with NBC,
which is arguably the most biased network of all, and
he committed to one with Fox News, which Kamala of course,
rejected those invitations. I don't know. You'll have to ask
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the Hairs campaign if they ever come on your show, Clay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I think they will trust me.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I would hold your brother, but I don't think that.
I think they are waiting to see how Kamala performs
and then they will make a decision on whether or
not she shows up for another debate. But we'd like
to do as many as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
When you I think that, by the way, is one
hundred percent right for what they're going to do. They're
going to wait and see how it goes and then
decide whether they're willing to sit for NBC. The President
has been doing interviews all over the place with everyone,
including and I've been impressed by this, and I think
for our audience, you might be able to explain it
very well because you're young, and there's so many voters
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out there that are young that find their information from
YouTube or from social media influencer. So, for instance, I
think it's aiden ross super popular on social media. Same
thing with Theo Vaughan. The President Trump did big sit
down interviews with both of those guys. For instance, what's
the impact there and what's the strategy.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, President Trump has always sat down with the legacy
media first of all, right, the CNN, nuc's, ABC's of
the world. He has never been afraid to go into
these hostile environments, and he continues to do that. He
also engages in local media interviews all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
These don't really.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Even get picked up or noticed in the press or
on X if you will, But every time we go
to a state, President Trump makes a point to speak
with the local reporter, which than that media market in
that state. And then another part of his earned media
strategy is sitting down with these alternative earned media venues,
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if you will, like the doing the live stream on
X with Elon Musk, which had a massive following, massive listenership.
There was I believe more than a billion impressions on
that live stream. A couple days later, the Aiden Ross
interview received millions of hits. He recently sat down for
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a really engaging conversation with Theo Vaughn on his podcast,
which is currently number one on Spotify. And so these
opportunities are purposeful and they give President Trump in an
opportunity to speak to different demographics that don't watch traditional
earned media, that he can speak directly to young people,
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talk to them about his policies and really share his
vision for the country. And it's been wildly successful, and
you know, we're getting a good bang for our buck,
so to speak, with these interviews, and the President really
enjoys doing them. He is such a conversationalist. He's so wise,
he's a great storyteller, and he has a real command
of the issues. So he's able to really sit down
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with all hosts of personalities and talk about any issue
under the sun. And it's always an engaging and lively conversation.
And that's just something that Kamala Harris is truly incapable
of viewing. She has proven that time and time again.
Every time she's without a script or talking points from
her advisors, she makes a fool of herself because she
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doesn't have conviction in what she believes. I don't think
she's very smart, to be honest with you, and she
lacks credibility on many of the issues that matter.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
We're talking to Caroline Levitt, Trump campaign spokesperson. You are
a member of gen Z if I'm not mistaken. That
is people who are roughly eighteen to twenty nine year old. Okay,
so this is a question for you that I was
talking about earlier. This week, we got a lot of
people out there listening, daughters, granddaughters that are Kamala supporters.
There's a New York Times story that the biggest gap
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in age range support on gender issues is actually eighteen
to twenty nine year old boys eighteen to twenty nine men,
however you want to classify it, are voting for Trump
by plus twelve. I believe women were voting for Kamala
by plus thirty eight. According to again, this was the
Sunday New York Times. I read this in why do
you think that is?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I am gen Z. In fact, my birthday, twenty seventh
birthday was this past week. I'm still waiting on my
cake from you, Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm happy birthday. Yeah, it's on the way right now.
You know, I just got a FedEx notice. They managed
to lose it, so it'll be there soon.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm sorry. Well, I thank you in advance for that. No, look,
it actually answer your question. I do think there is
a gap, a gender gap that exists, especially amongst young
people in this country, with men versus women. In fact,
young men Generation Z boys are the most conservative demographic
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that we've seen in decades in terms of young people,
like they identify as more conservative than we've seen from
this age group since the sixties. I actually read that
and recently sow it in a poll. Well, you look
at women, it's a little bit different. I think it
has a lot to do with the culture that we
live in unfortunately, a lot to do with media, and frankly,
every institution in this country is controlled by leftists. I mean,
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the public school system badly has gone down the drain.
You look at the teachers, unions, and educators and many
big schools, especially in big cities, they are leftists primarily.
You look at, of course, the higher education system totally
controlled by leftists. So by the time many of these
young people are on their college campus, they're already left leaning,
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and then they are being indoctrinated further. I think the
Democrat Party, unfortunately, and we're fighting this every day, has
done a good job of indoctrinating young women into the
you know, my body, my choice mantra movement, and we
have to change hearts and minds with young women across
the country. I think, though, as we've always seen throughout history,
As these young people get older, as they you know,
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I graduate from college with thousands of dollars of debt
on their backs, they enter the workforce, they are going
to become conservative again. We always see that happen. I
think we'll continue to see it because you understand the
way the world works. You understand that the government is
not your friend. It's actually a big part of the problem.
You want more money in your pocket, you want to
be tax less, and you just kind of come back
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to reality, to be honest. But we are seeing President
Trump pick up historic games with young people overall, and
especially with young men, and you know, he's certainly reaching
out to them with doing some of these podcasts. He's
been sitting on, you know, going to UFC fights, and
he's he's a dude's dude, and I think he resonates
with a lot of young men in this country who
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feel like, you know, the Democrat Party and the h
Hollywood a lead that control our institutions just don't really
speak for them anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You just had a twenty seventh birthday, and I'm so
glad that my birthday cake is going to get to
you in time for even a belated birthday but have
you dealt with the fact. Last question for you, Caroline,
you grew up in the New England Patriots were really good.
Are you prepared for an era when the New England
Patriots might be the worst team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I have to say, as I'm in my late twenties,
I have never known a Patriots team that sucks, and
it sucks to suck. The last couple of seasons have
been tough to watch. My husband tells me we're in
a rebuilding era right now. I hope that he's right.
I hope someday my son will get to know the dynasty,
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the Patriots dynasty that I did. I had more Super
Bowl parties by the time I was like ten years
old than anyone experiences in their life. So I'm hopeful.
I believe in Patriots Nation, and you know what, being
a New England sports fan, it's just it's been a
great ride. A lot of like I said, super Bowl parties,
a lot of championships, a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Caroline Levitt, she's killing it for President Trump. She just
celebrated her twenty seventh birthday. The only thing going bad
for is the Patriots are no longer a good football team. Caroline,
we will talk to you again soon. Tell your husband
that he better be right about the rebuild or there's
gonna be a lot of angry Patriots fans out there.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I will. Indeed, he's a long time past fan. I
think he has it covered. Thank you, say thank.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You, Caroline. All right, she's truly doing fantastic work. Many
of you were watching her on a regular basis. We'll
come back. We'll take some of your calls. By the way,
eight hundred two two two eight two. We got Miranda
Devine at the bottom of the hour. I wanted to
have a conversation with her about the fact that all
of her reporting in the New York Post. Oh yeah,
Mark Zuckerberg now says it's all true. We'll talk about
that in the meantime. New movie Reagan coming to theaters
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nationwide tomorrow, the story of Ronald Reagan's life and his
impact as our President. Dennis Quaid plays Reagan. Delivers an
incredible foremance. I heard from a couple of friends. They
had one of the premiers in Franklin, Tennessee, right outside
of Nashville, near where I live. They said it was
a really fun movie work checking it out. Movie follows
Reagan's life from childhood to presidency, told through a conversation
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between a former KGB agent played by John Voight and
a Russian politician. Interesting elements and highlights of Reagan's speeches.
Timing of the movie couldn't be better, with all the
attention on the upcoming presidential race and so many of
you out there longing for the era of Ronald Reagan.
You can get your tickets now at reaganmovie dot com.
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That's reaganmovie dot Com. But a bunch of polls rolling in,
and yesterday we had Nate Silver on with us. A
lot of you enjoyed him. Many of you were furious
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because he's going to vote for Kamala. I actually think
it was interesting because he's a smart guy. And maybe
we'll take some calls in the third hour more substantively
on this. Let everybody weigh in if they want to.
But his newest forecast, which just came out, has flipped
and he now has Trump favored to win the election,
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and he has Trump favored to win Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia,
and North Carolina super close in Wisconsin, Harris with a
more substantial favorite in Michigan. But what I think nade
Silver is representative of is what I have seen happen
so often in media. Let me take you behind the scenes.
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A lot of people vote for Trump, but they won't
say it publicly in media, and a lot of people
who publicly say they vote for Kamala are doing it
for one of two reasons. One, they're just a fan
of the Democrat team, and they're going to line up
and say that they're on Team Democrat no matter what
the Democrat Party stands for, no matter who the member
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of the party that is representing them is their team Democrat. Okay,
so that's one. Two, there are a lot of people
who say their Team Democrat that are actually afraid of
the consequences in their particular profession if they come out
and say that they're voting Trump. This is what I
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see from behind the scenes from having worked in sports media.
I mentioned this yesterday. I'm the only person who did
sports in twenty twenty that publicly said he was supporting
Donald Trump that works at Fox Sports, ESPN, CBS, NBC,
or ABC. Let me tell you, there's a lot of
people who are voting for Trump that work at all
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those places they're afraid to say it publicly. I'm not
saying that Nate Silver is going to vote for Trump.
I think he's in that second camp where living in
New York City, he's afraid of the consequences if he
doesn't say that he's voting commonly. Look, I've got a
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The New York Post. I wanted to bring Miranda on
the show given the revelations that have come out of
Facebook and the continued endorsement of all of the good
work that she has done as the New York Post
reporter who broke the news about everything surrounding the Hunter
Byden laptop. Miranda, I think I've said for you for
years now coming on this show that I think the
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New York Times and the Washington Post should have to
return all their Russia collusion hoax stories and for the
Pulitzers that they got and give them all to you.
Mark Zuckerberg's letter didn't contain any new revelations for you,
but it's just further endorsement that you were right about everything.
Are you surprised still at the lack of coverage that
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even Mark Zuckerberg writing a letter saying, hey, we were
told to censor by the Biden administration. And I think
even more significantly, the FBI told us that a fake
story was coming. Are you New York Times, the Washington
Post just didn't cover it? MSNBC, CNN. Their audience is
legitimately still think the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's incredible, isn't that? But look, I'm not really surprised
that they're not covering it, because if they did, they
would have to admit that everything that they've been doing
over the last four years was a big lie, in
a hoax, and that they tricked their leaders, their readers,
leaders in order to get Joe Biden across the line.
And so I look at even Zuckerberg. I mean, it's
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too little, too late, isn't it. It's interesting that he's
doing it, that he's fesceed up the way he has
in quite fullsome ways, talking about how the FBI came
and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop, and
that he knows it's not Russian disinformation. But I think
he's just doing that to get out ahead of the
Donald Trump train. He thinks that Trump will become president.
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And in fact, I just read a little excerpt from
a new book that Trump's brought out, and there's a
photo of him with Zuckerberg when he was president in
the Oval office, and he writes a little note on
it that he'll be keeping a close eye on Zuckerberg
and if he breaks the law again, that he'll end
up spending a lot of time in prison. So that's
what Zuckerbird's afraid of, as well as the arrest of
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the founder of Telegram in France. I think all big
tech owners are going to be feeling the heat at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Is by the way, I haven't talked a lot about
the Telegram owner's arrest in France, but the standard that's
being applied to him, to the extent that I can
tell of, you are responsible for how people use your
product is really kind of a staggering example. In other words,
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people use cell phones all the time to engage in
criminal activity. The CEO of AT and T doesn't get
arrested right for having allowed the cell phone network to
engage in criminal activity. And to my knowledge, for instance,
no one at Apple has ever been arrested. Tell me
if I'm wrong, if you know this to be untrue,
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but no one at Apple. It's really hard oftentimes to
crack a Apple phone, right to be able to get inside
if you have your code. Apple doesn't give that information
generally to investigative agencies buy and large. To my knowledge,
no one at Apple has ever been charged with a
crime for that right. The Telegram precedent, I think is
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kind of staggering. Have you been paying attention to that
story because it's pretty wild what they're trying to do
to that founder.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You're spot on, and it really is just a selective
intimidation of this guy. Because authorities this is a global
thing the United States. I remember years ago when I
was still working in Australia, came to the Australian government
to get the Australian government to coerce their own tech people,
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big Tech, to allow backdoors into their encrypted apps as
part of the Five Eyes program, so that then the
United States could utilize that backdoor via Australia. So this
has been a wet dream for the intelligence agencies around
the world for a long time, and they've managed to
get I mean Apple actually so many times. During my
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research on the Hunter Biden laptop, we found that there
were people like Rudy Giuliani who were being spied on
by the FBI, and Apple had allowed these covert surveillance
warrants just handed over all the information allowed the FBI
to go and spy on the iCloud of Rudy Giuliani
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and others. And it's only many years afterwards that Apple
then sends a letter to the victim, the subject to
the surveillance person and says, oh, by the way, we
allowed the FBI to hack into your private data. So
I think Telegram is unusual. WhatsApp everyone used to think
was safe, but it's not because it was bought by
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Facebook by Mark Zuckerberg. Then he of course bent over
to the authorities and allowed them to look at everything.
So there's really very little left on the web that's
private and where you can sayguard your privacy. Telegram was
one of the last and of course that made Pavel Turov,
the Russian born owner who was living in Dubai, because
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he didn't the Russians were trying to force him to
cough up the information. And now it's the French that
have done it. And you know, there is some evidence
out there that the State Department Anthony Blincoln were a
part of that attempt to lock this guy up for many,
many years.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Okay, are you troubled as troubled as I am? And
you and I have had a long discussion about this.
We did a long form discussion about this a while back.
The FBI seesed the Hunter Biden laptop in December of
twenty nineteen. You can correct me if I'm wrong. On
this data. In the summer of twenty twenty, they started
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to prebunk the idea that there may be a laptop
story coming and that it would be Russian disinformation and
that it had to be camped down by Facebook, Twitter,
everywhere else. A lot of people want to focus on
Mark Zuckerberg, and they want to focus on Jack Dorsey
back in the day, the guys who ran Facebook and Twitter,
among other social media sites. But the argument I've been
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making is if the FBI came to me and said, Hey,
there's a Russian disinformation campaign coming, and then the New
York Post story came out, It's not crazy that their
first thought would be, oh, my goodness, the FBI was right.
I'm far more troubled by who ordered the code red
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inside of our government. And I'm also equally troubled that
a huge number of journalists, the vast, vast majority of them,
don't seem to care at all to unravel that mystery.
Do you have a sense for who would have been
ordering the code read inside of the government? And is
a that arguably the biggest American political story of the
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twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Bingo, Absolutely, and it all is a part. It's the
same people that decided that they were going to sabotage
Donald Trump even before he got into office, the Russia hoax,
the Ukraine impeachment, and finally they were determined, these cabal
of people inside the CIA. I mean this goes right
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to the top of the CIA. Remember that letter written
by fifty one former intelligence officials lying that our stories
and the laptop were Russian disinformation. We now know that
that was engineered by now Secretary of State, then a
campaign official for Joe Biden, Anthony Blincoln. He got with
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a he instigated that letter to be written by these
CIA directors. There were five former acting or serving CIA
directors who saw that letter and who organized it and
who coerced the other CIA people to sign it. Those
people and that letter were signed off by the head
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of the CIA at the time, Gina Haspal. So this
is a push inside the CIA itself, with help from
other intel agencies like the FBI, people in the DOJ,
fellow travelers who all believed that Donald still believed that
Donald Trump is an existential threat to quote democracy. All
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he is is a threat to their unfettered agenda, and
they have been doing things in the American people's name
that we don't know about, and if we did, we
would say no. And that includes things like regime change
in Russia, endless wars, and trying to, you know, start
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World War three. They are very dangerous people and Donald
Trump is a threat to them.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Branda, You've got a new book coming out. I actually
can't wait to read it. I didn't know this was happening.
What can you tell us about the new book and
what the focus is.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Well, thank you. It's called The Big Guy. It's out
next month, September twenty four, and it's basically the story
of the cover up of the laptop. We didn't know
half of it when we were first censored by Big
Tech in October of twenty twenty. The information that has
come out since, and that I have discovered from whistleblowers
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named and unnamed, is just mind blowing. And it shows
you that Hunter Biden was being protected by the CIA
and by other sort of shadowy forces within the United
States government, and Joe Biden had a relationship with them
and was their puppet for decades, and they gave the
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Biden family a green light to be corrupt and to
influence pedal around the world. When Joe Biden was vice president.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Miranda Devine New York Post yesterday. I was talking about
this is kind of a broad media question for you.
I love our industry, even though I think that it's
oftentimes a complete total joke, which is, you know, a
bit bittersweet, I would say. But I was talking about
the New York Times and the Washington Post and their
refusal to cover what I think is the biggest political
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story of the twenty first century. That is members of
our government rigging the election by saying that something that
was they knew to be true. That is an inaccurate
the hunter Biden laptop that it was actually Russian disinformation,
And I made the point I'm glad the New York
Post exists, but you guys are still an advertiser driven business.
(29:48):
It isn't so much of a subscription business. Don't you
think if you could wave a magic wand that there
is a huge need for a Washington Post or New
York Times that is just a little bit to the right.
They're far left wing. I know the Wall Street Journal,
(30:08):
but it's more of a business focused publication. I love it.
I like the New York Post. There is no direct
equivalent of the New York Times or the Washington Post.
In the modern US media industry, you can say Fox News, MSNBC, CNN,
that's the cable market. Am I crazy to think that
there is no just a little bit right leaning version
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of the New York Times in the Washington Post? And
I think that matters because those newspapers are now just
Democrat propaganda machines, and they're used to launder the truth,
and there isn't someone punching back against them as often
as should be the case. Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Look, you're so right, and I think it would fix
a lot of problems in this country if they were
a sort of an establishment newspape. It doesn't have to
be left or right. I don't care if they write
democrat leaning editorials as long as they tell the truth.
All they have to do is be honest and not
planned everything, and also go out looking for dirt against
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For instance, the New York Times today has gone out
and looked for somebody to say something nasty about Donald Trump.
At Arlington Cemetery, they looked up the name of a
family whose son is buried in the same cemetery, and
this person said something very anodyne but it gets twisted
out of context and turned into a slur against Donald Trump,
(31:30):
and then Democrat readers believe it, and then they write
to me and tell me I'm an idiot because I
don't know the truth. The New York Times and these
newspapers are propagandizing their readers, and their readers have their
polls showing that Democrats have enormous trust like seventy five
percent trust in their favorite media organs like the New
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York Times and Washington Post, and Republicans don't because we
are forced to see both sides, and so we know
that most of the media is for of lies and propaganda,
and we filter recordingly, whereas Democrats are so naive that
they believe everything that they're told. And what's more, they
don't care even if you showed them proof that this
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was a lie like Russia hoax. They don't care. They
don't want to know. They just want to stick in
their bubble of delusion.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She has Miranda Divine my number one overall draft pick
for the most honest reporter in the twenty first century.
So far, I can't wait to read the book. Make
sure that you come back on and get us early
copies so we can be ready to talk about it
here on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Love to thanks so much. Guy.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's Miranda Devine. Go follow her, Go read her at
the New York Post. She nailed everything on the Hunter
Biden laptop, and every day she becomes more and more correct,
and even people who are haters. I'm going to play
a clip for you from my good buddy Joe Scarborough
here in a little bit where he says the Hunter
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all the time, the number of people out there who
just don't know better. Sixty percent of people still believed
in the Democrat Party recently that the Hunter Biden laptop
was all made up Russian disinformation because they bought into
the lies that they were told by Joe Biden, and
that they were told by people who worked on MSNBC
and CNN and The New York Times. In the Washington Post,
(35:06):
here is Joe Scarborough saying, you're a moron essentially if
you believe the Hunter Biden laptop is anything other than
Russian disinformation, and history will judge you poorly for believing that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Listen, here we are in twenty twenty. This is what
it's come down to America. Juliani is feeding Russian misinformation
to Donald Trumps, feeding Russian disinformation to the New York Post.
They know it's a lie, Russian hoax. Come on, History
will expose you all as fools and useful idiots for
(35:41):
the Russians. For four years now there has been a
line from Russian agents into the campaign. It's unbelievable. How
stupid you think Americans are? For you can just say
Russian hoax? Seriously, Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That aired on MSNBC. Joe Scarborough I tweeted it out
has never gone on the air and told his audience, Hey,
by the way, the Hunter Biden laptop was one hundred
percent rehab. There is accountability in media, certainly on this show.
If we get anything wrong, I come on. I tell
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you Buck gets anything wrong, he comes on, he tells
you you may not like our opinions, but we've never
come out and said something like that. But that's what
they told everybody on MSNBC, that's what they told everybody
on CNN, the New York Times, of Washington Post. Democrats
believe more lies than you can possibly imagine. They just
(36:43):
don't hear the counter argument. Third Hour, Alex Barnson next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in hour number two Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Buck on vacation this week with
his lovely wife Carrie. He will be back Tuesday, right
after Labor Day. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We've been talking about the big CNN interview with Kamala
Harris and Tim Walls and the fact that Dana Bash
(00:22):
likely will be in the tank and not ask real questions.
I laid out all those real questions for all of
you joining us now. Is a woman who makes a
living answering real questions all over the media landscape. She
is new mom. Caroline Levitt been on the show with
us for many years now. Caroline, appreciate you coming on
(00:43):
with us. How wild is the campaign season for you?
What's happening Labor Day weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, what's going on today? It is absolutely wild, especially
being a new mom, no doubt about it. And now
we're about to be in the post Labor Day sprint.
It's going to get even crazier. Last week, the American
people saw President Trump barnstorming the country. He was in
I think seven states in the matter of five days,
(01:09):
and that's what they can expect moving forward. The President
works harder than anyone I know, and we're going to
be all over the country, criss crossing all the battleground states,
bring in his message and contrasting his record of success
with Kamala's record of failures and weakness. We're very excited
about the big debate on September tenth. We have finally
(01:30):
agreed to terms with the Harris campaign. They tried to
backtrack a little bit on us. They wanted Kammlin to
bring in notes. I think they're getting worried because they
know she's incapable of speaking without a teleprompter nearby. But
we hope that she'll show up on the tenth. President
Trump will be there no matter what, and we're excited
about it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, tell us about that debate on September tenth. My
understanding is it's going to be in Philadelphia. There will
be no audience President, they will be standing, The mics
will be muted when you know the other candidate is
not speaking. In other words, the candidate who is speaking
can speak, but the other one cannot, and then no notes.
(02:07):
Am I right about all those details.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You are correct about all of those details. It is
the exact same rules and ground game that we had
in the CNN debate with Joe Biden, and our campaign
and the Harris campaign agreed to those terms to keep
it the same and then, frankly, it worked out quite
well for us, didn't it. It knocked Joe Biden out of
(02:31):
the race. I mean, the reason we have Kamala Harris
today is because President Trump dominated him in that debate
so much so it really exposed his cognitive decline. However,
the Harris campaign again, they tried to backtrack in the
past week. They wanted her to bring in notes. They
blamed it on the mics. That wasn't it. They're realizing
as they a prep Kamala for the debate that she
is ill equipped of explaining policy. She doesn't know where
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she stands. They're trying to make her look like a
moderate when she is not. She is truly a radical liberal.
They're having a hard time with it, but nevertheless, we
came to an agreement. It is set in stone and
September tenth is the big night.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, Kamala is doing an interview tonight with CNN. I
don't know exactly what time they're taping, but it's with
Dana Bash, who was one of the moderators of the
June twenty seventh debate alongside of Jake Tapper. If I
remember correctly, when Trump, your boss knocked out Joe Biden
legitimately knocked him out of politics. What do you expect
the interview to look like for Dana Bash and Walls
(03:31):
and Harris Part one, Part two? You are the campaign spokesperson.
I would bet that the Trump team doesn't tell you, Hey,
you need to take a boy with you when you
do an interview as a woman. Do you see Kamala
Harris needing to bring a man with her for an
interview when she's claiming that she wants to be commander
in chief as a pretty significant sign of weakness.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I absolutely do, and frankly, I think it sends a
horrible message to women and girls across the country who
are watching her campaign and seeing her run as the
the first hopeful female president of the United States, and
she can't even sit down for an interview by herself.
I think it's actually quite sad and set the horrible example.
But the CNN interview is set to pre tape. Nevertheless,
(04:15):
in about an hour from now, And look, Clay, I've
aired my grievances with Dana Bass and Jake Tapper before.
I think in the debate with President Trump and Joe Biden,
they actually proved to be quite fair. And I hope
that Dana Bash will be fair and tough against Kamala
Harris in the same way she was against Senator jd
Vance last week when he sat down with her for
(04:36):
more than an hour long interview and answered tough questions
about issues and policy and things that he has said
in the past. She needs to question Kamala Harris about
the things she has said in the past, like does
she still support her radical ban on tracking, does she
still support the decriminalization of illegal immigration, does she still
support eliminating task bill for violent criminals? And why did
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she and Walls allow violent rioters to burn down and
if in businesses and homes in the summer of twenty
twenty and Kamala went on to build those people out
of jail. So, look, there are a lot of questions
that need to be asked and answered of Kamala Harris tonight.
It is CNN's responsibility to do so. We hope that
they will, and we will have to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Do you think that there will be a second debate
between Trump and Kamala Harris? We know she was afraid
and unwilling to do. I think it was September fourth,
on Fox News, President Trump suggested Martha McCollum and Brett
Bayer as moderators. I think that would have been very fair.
I think both of them do great work. This is
me personally. I've been on both their shows. I think
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they have very fair shows. They certainly even I think
President Trump wasn't happy with Brett Bayer for one interview
because he thought he was too tough or didn't like
some of the questions. But Trump was willing to go
and do the Fox News debate. Do you think Kamala
will try to do only one? Do you think there
will be a second one?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Well, we certainly want there to be more than one.
I can tell you that President Trump has committed to
three debates with Kamala Harris. She's of course, only committed
to the ABC debate, but he committed to one with NBC,
which is arguably the most biased network of all, and
he committed to one with Fox News, which Kamala of course,
rejected those invitations. I don't know. You'll have to ask
(06:25):
the Hairs campaign if they ever come on your show, Clay.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I think they will trust me.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I would hold your brother, but I don't think that.
I think they are waiting to see how Kamala performs
and then they will make a decision on whether or
not she shows up for another debate. But we'd like
to do as many as possible.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
When you I think that, by the way, is one
hundred percent right for what they're going to do. They're
going to wait and see how it goes and then
decide whether they're willing to sit for NBC. The President
has been doing interviews all over the place with everyone,
including and I've been impressed by this, and I think
for our audience, you might be able to explain it
very well because you're young, and there's so many voters
(07:09):
out there that are young that find their information from
YouTube or from social media influencer. So, for instance, I
think it's aiden ross super popular on social media. Same
thing with Theo Vaughan. The President Trump did big sit
down interviews with both of those guys. For instance, what's
the impact there and what's the strategy.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, President Trump has always sat down with the legacy
media first of all, right, the CNN, nuc's, ABC's of
the world. He has never been afraid to go into
these hostile environments, and he continues to do that. He
also engages in local media interviews all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
These don't really.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Even get picked up or noticed in the press or
on X if you will, But every time we go
to a state, President Trump makes a point to speak
with the local reporter, which than that media market in
that state. And then another part of his earned media
strategy is sitting down with these alternative earned media venues,
(08:10):
if you will, like the doing the live stream on
X with Elon Musk, which had a massive following, massive listenership.
There was I believe more than a billion impressions on
that live stream. A couple days later, the Aiden Ross
interview received millions of hits. He recently sat down for
(08:32):
a really engaging conversation with Theo Vaughn on his podcast,
which is currently number one on Spotify. And so these
opportunities are purposeful and they give President Trump in an
opportunity to speak to different demographics that don't watch traditional
earned media, that he can speak directly to young people,
(08:53):
talk to them about his policies and really share his
vision for the country. And it's been wildly successful, and
you know, we're getting a good bang for our buck,
so to speak, with these interviews, and the President really
enjoys doing them. He is such a conversationalist. He's so wise,
he's a great storyteller, and he has a real command
of the issues. So he's able to really sit down
(09:16):
with all hosts of personalities and talk about any issue
under the sun. And it's always an engaging and lively conversation.
And that's just something that Kamala Harris is truly incapable
of viewing. She has proven that time and time again.
Every time she's without a script or talking points from
her advisors, she makes a fool of herself because she
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doesn't have conviction in what she believes. I don't think
she's very smart, to be honest with you, and she
lacks credibility on many of the issues that matter.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
We're talking to Caroline Levitt, Trump campaign spokesperson. You are
a member of gen Z if I'm not mistaken. That
is people who are roughly eighteen to twenty nine year old. Okay,
so this is a question for you that I was
talking about earlier. This week, we got a lot of
people out there listening, daughters, granddaughters that are Kamala supporters.
There's a New York Times story that the biggest gap
(10:08):
in age range support on gender issues is actually eighteen
to twenty nine year old boys eighteen to twenty nine men,
however you want to classify it, are voting for Trump
by plus twelve. I believe women were voting for Kamala
by plus thirty eight. According to again, this was the
Sunday New York Times. I read this in why do
you think that is?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I am gen Z. In fact, my birthday, twenty seventh
birthday was this past week. I'm still waiting on my
cake from you, Clay.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm happy birthday. Yeah, it's on the way right now.
You know, I just got a FedEx notice. They managed
to lose it, so it'll be there soon.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm sorry. Well, I thank you in advance for that. No, look,
it actually answer your question. I do think there is
a gap, a gender gap that exists, especially amongst young
people in this country, with men versus women. In fact,
young men Generation Z boys are the most conservative demographic
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that we've seen in decades in terms of young people,
like they identify as more conservative than we've seen from
this age group since the sixties. I actually read that
and recently sow it in a poll. Well, you look
at women, it's a little bit different. I think it
has a lot to do with the culture that we
live in unfortunately, a lot to do with media, and frankly,
every institution in this country is controlled by leftists. I mean,
(11:33):
the public school system badly has gone down the drain.
You look at the teachers, unions, and educators and many
big schools, especially in big cities, they are leftists primarily.
You look at, of course, the higher education system totally
controlled by leftists. So by the time many of these
young people are on their college campus, they're already left leaning,
(11:53):
and then they are being indoctrinated further. I think the
Democrat Party, unfortunately, and we're fighting this every day, has
done a good job of indoctrinating young women into the
you know, my body, my choice mantra movement, and we
have to change hearts and minds with young women across
the country. I think, though, as we've always seen throughout history,
As these young people get older, as they you know,
(12:15):
I graduate from college with thousands of dollars of debt
on their backs, they enter the workforce, they are going
to become conservative again. We always see that happen. I
think we'll continue to see it because you understand the
way the world works. You understand that the government is
not your friend. It's actually a big part of the problem.
You want more money in your pocket, you want to
be tax less, and you just kind of come back
(12:37):
to reality, to be honest. But we are seeing President
Trump pick up historic games with young people overall, and
especially with young men, and you know, he's certainly reaching
out to them with doing some of these podcasts. He's
been sitting on, you know, going to UFC fights, and
he's he's a dude's dude, and I think he resonates
with a lot of young men in this country who
(12:57):
feel like, you know, the Democrat Party and the h
Hollywood a lead that control our institutions just don't really
speak for them anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You just had a twenty seventh birthday, and I'm so
glad that my birthday cake is going to get to
you in time for even a belated birthday but have
you dealt with the fact. Last question for you, Caroline,
you grew up in the New England Patriots were really good.
Are you prepared for an era when the New England
Patriots might be the worst team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I have to say, as I'm in my late twenties,
I have never known a Patriots team that sucks, and
it sucks to suck. The last couple of seasons have
been tough to watch. My husband tells me we're in
a rebuilding era right now. I hope that he's right.
I hope someday my son will get to know the dynasty,
(13:48):
the Patriots dynasty that I did. I had more Super
Bowl parties by the time I was like ten years
old than anyone experiences in their life. So I'm hopeful.
I believe in Patriots Nation, and you know what, being
a New England sports fan, it's just it's been a
great ride. A lot of like I said, super Bowl parties,
a lot of championships, a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Caroline Levitt, she's killing it for President Trump. She just
celebrated her twenty seventh birthday. The only thing going bad
for is the Patriots are no longer a good football team. Caroline,
we will talk to you again soon. Tell your husband
that he better be right about the rebuild or there's
gonna be a lot of angry Patriots fans out there.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I will. Indeed, he's a long time past fan. I
think he has it covered. Thank you, say thank.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You, Caroline. All right, she's truly doing fantastic work. Many
of you were watching her on a regular basis. We'll
come back. We'll take some of your calls. By the way,
eight hundred two two two eight two. We got Miranda
Devine at the bottom of the hour. I wanted to
have a conversation with her about the fact that all
of her reporting in the New York Post. Oh yeah,
Mark Zuckerberg now says it's all true. We'll talk about
that in the meantime. New movie Reagan coming to theaters
(14:52):
nationwide tomorrow, the story of Ronald Reagan's life and his
impact as our President. Dennis Quaid plays Reagan. Delivers an
incredible foremance. I heard from a couple of friends. They
had one of the premiers in Franklin, Tennessee, right outside
of Nashville, near where I live. They said it was
a really fun movie work checking it out. Movie follows
Reagan's life from childhood to presidency, told through a conversation
(15:14):
between a former KGB agent played by John Voight and
a Russian politician. Interesting elements and highlights of Reagan's speeches.
Timing of the movie couldn't be better, with all the
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You can get your tickets now at reaganmovie dot com.
(15:35):
That's reaganmovie dot Com. But a bunch of polls rolling in,
and yesterday we had Nate Silver on with us. A
lot of you enjoyed him. Many of you were furious
(15:55):
because he's going to vote for Kamala. I actually think
it was interesting because he's a smart guy. And maybe
we'll take some calls in the third hour more substantively
on this. Let everybody weigh in if they want to.
But his newest forecast, which just came out, has flipped
and he now has Trump favored to win the election,
(16:18):
and he has Trump favored to win Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia,
and North Carolina super close in Wisconsin, Harris with a
more substantial favorite in Michigan. But what I think nade
Silver is representative of is what I have seen happen
so often in media. Let me take you behind the scenes.
(16:42):
A lot of people vote for Trump, but they won't
say it publicly in media, and a lot of people
who publicly say they vote for Kamala are doing it
for one of two reasons. One, they're just a fan
of the Democrat team, and they're going to line up
and say that they're on Team Democrat no matter what
the Democrat Party stands for, no matter who the member
(17:05):
of the party that is representing them is their team Democrat. Okay,
so that's one. Two, there are a lot of people
who say their Team Democrat that are actually afraid of
the consequences in their particular profession if they come out
and say that they're voting Trump. This is what I
(17:27):
see from behind the scenes from having worked in sports media.
I mentioned this yesterday. I'm the only person who did
sports in twenty twenty that publicly said he was supporting
Donald Trump that works at Fox Sports, ESPN, CBS, NBC,
or ABC. Let me tell you, there's a lot of
people who are voting for Trump that work at all
(17:50):
those places they're afraid to say it publicly. I'm not
saying that Nate Silver is going to vote for Trump.
I think he's in that second camp where living in
New York City, he's afraid of the consequences if he
doesn't say that he's voting commonly. Look, I've got a
winner for you right now. I just mentioned football is back.
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(18:12):
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(18:59):
The New York Post. I wanted to bring Miranda on
the show given the revelations that have come out of
Facebook and the continued endorsement of all of the good
work that she has done as the New York Post
reporter who broke the news about everything surrounding the Hunter
Byden laptop. Miranda, I think I've said for you for
years now coming on this show that I think the
(19:21):
New York Times and the Washington Post should have to
return all their Russia collusion hoax stories and for the
Pulitzers that they got and give them all to you.
Mark Zuckerberg's letter didn't contain any new revelations for you,
but it's just further endorsement that you were right about everything.
Are you surprised still at the lack of coverage that
(19:43):
even Mark Zuckerberg writing a letter saying, hey, we were
told to censor by the Biden administration. And I think
even more significantly, the FBI told us that a fake
story was coming. Are you New York Times, the Washington
Post just didn't cover it? MSNBC, CNN. Their audience is
legitimately still think the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It's incredible, isn't that? But look, I'm not really surprised
that they're not covering it, because if they did, they
would have to admit that everything that they've been doing
over the last four years was a big lie, in
a hoax, and that they tricked their leaders, their readers,
leaders in order to get Joe Biden across the line.
And so I look at even Zuckerberg. I mean, it's
(20:27):
too little, too late, isn't it. It's interesting that he's
doing it, that he's fesceed up the way he has
in quite fullsome ways, talking about how the FBI came
and lied to them about the Hunter Biden laptop, and
that he knows it's not Russian disinformation. But I think
he's just doing that to get out ahead of the
Donald Trump train. He thinks that Trump will become president.
(20:51):
And in fact, I just read a little excerpt from
a new book that Trump's brought out, and there's a
photo of him with Zuckerberg when he was president in
the Oval office, and he writes a little note on
it that he'll be keeping a close eye on Zuckerberg
and if he breaks the law again, that he'll end
up spending a lot of time in prison. So that's
what Zuckerbird's afraid of, as well as the arrest of
(21:13):
the founder of Telegram in France. I think all big
tech owners are going to be feeling the heat at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Is by the way, I haven't talked a lot about
the Telegram owner's arrest in France, but the standard that's
being applied to him, to the extent that I can
tell of, you are responsible for how people use your
product is really kind of a staggering example. In other words,
(21:42):
people use cell phones all the time to engage in
criminal activity. The CEO of AT and T doesn't get
arrested right for having allowed the cell phone network to
engage in criminal activity. And to my knowledge, for instance,
no one at Apple has ever been arrested. Tell me
if I'm wrong, if you know this to be untrue,
(22:02):
but no one at Apple. It's really hard oftentimes to
crack a Apple phone, right to be able to get inside
if you have your code. Apple doesn't give that information
generally to investigative agencies buy and large. To my knowledge,
no one at Apple has ever been charged with a
crime for that right. The Telegram precedent, I think is
(22:24):
kind of staggering. Have you been paying attention to that
story because it's pretty wild what they're trying to do
to that founder.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You're spot on, and it really is just a selective
intimidation of this guy. Because authorities this is a global
thing the United States. I remember years ago when I
was still working in Australia, came to the Australian government
to get the Australian government to coerce their own tech people,
(22:54):
big Tech, to allow backdoors into their encrypted apps as
part of the Five Eyes program, so that then the
United States could utilize that backdoor via Australia. So this
has been a wet dream for the intelligence agencies around
the world for a long time, and they've managed to
get I mean Apple actually so many times. During my
(23:17):
research on the Hunter Biden laptop, we found that there
were people like Rudy Giuliani who were being spied on
by the FBI, and Apple had allowed these covert surveillance
warrants just handed over all the information allowed the FBI
to go and spy on the iCloud of Rudy Giuliani
(23:38):
and others. And it's only many years afterwards that Apple
then sends a letter to the victim, the subject to
the surveillance person and says, oh, by the way, we
allowed the FBI to hack into your private data. So
I think Telegram is unusual. WhatsApp everyone used to think
was safe, but it's not because it was bought by
(23:59):
Facebook by Mark Zuckerberg. Then he of course bent over
to the authorities and allowed them to look at everything.
So there's really very little left on the web that's
private and where you can sayguard your privacy. Telegram was
one of the last and of course that made Pavel Turov,
the Russian born owner who was living in Dubai, because
(24:20):
he didn't the Russians were trying to force him to
cough up the information. And now it's the French that
have done it. And you know, there is some evidence
out there that the State Department Anthony Blincoln were a
part of that attempt to lock this guy up for many,
many years.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Okay, are you troubled as troubled as I am? And
you and I have had a long discussion about this.
We did a long form discussion about this a while back.
The FBI seesed the Hunter Biden laptop in December of
twenty nineteen. You can correct me if I'm wrong. On
this data. In the summer of twenty twenty, they started
(24:59):
to prebunk the idea that there may be a laptop
story coming and that it would be Russian disinformation and
that it had to be camped down by Facebook, Twitter,
everywhere else. A lot of people want to focus on
Mark Zuckerberg, and they want to focus on Jack Dorsey
back in the day, the guys who ran Facebook and Twitter,
among other social media sites. But the argument I've been
(25:21):
making is if the FBI came to me and said, Hey,
there's a Russian disinformation campaign coming, and then the New
York Post story came out, It's not crazy that their
first thought would be, oh, my goodness, the FBI was right.
I'm far more troubled by who ordered the code red
(25:42):
inside of our government. And I'm also equally troubled that
a huge number of journalists, the vast, vast majority of them,
don't seem to care at all to unravel that mystery.
Do you have a sense for who would have been
ordering the code read inside of the government? And is
a that arguably the biggest American political story of the
(26:04):
twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Bingo, Absolutely, and it all is a part. It's the
same people that decided that they were going to sabotage
Donald Trump even before he got into office, the Russia hoax,
the Ukraine impeachment, and finally they were determined, these cabal
of people inside the CIA. I mean this goes right
(26:28):
to the top of the CIA. Remember that letter written
by fifty one former intelligence officials lying that our stories
and the laptop were Russian disinformation. We now know that
that was engineered by now Secretary of State, then a
campaign official for Joe Biden, Anthony Blincoln. He got with
(26:49):
a he instigated that letter to be written by these
CIA directors. There were five former acting or serving CIA
directors who saw that letter and who organized it and
who coerced the other CIA people to sign it. Those
people and that letter were signed off by the head
(27:11):
of the CIA at the time, Gina Haspal. So this
is a push inside the CIA itself, with help from
other intel agencies like the FBI, people in the DOJ,
fellow travelers who all believed that Donald still believed that
Donald Trump is an existential threat to quote democracy. All
(27:33):
he is is a threat to their unfettered agenda, and
they have been doing things in the American people's name
that we don't know about, and if we did, we
would say no. And that includes things like regime change
in Russia, endless wars, and trying to, you know, start
(27:54):
World War three. They are very dangerous people and Donald
Trump is a threat to them.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Branda, You've got a new book coming out. I actually
can't wait to read it. I didn't know this was happening.
What can you tell us about the new book and
what the focus is.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Well, thank you. It's called The Big Guy. It's out
next month, September twenty four, and it's basically the story
of the cover up of the laptop. We didn't know
half of it when we were first censored by Big
Tech in October of twenty twenty. The information that has
come out since, and that I have discovered from whistleblowers
(28:32):
named and unnamed, is just mind blowing. And it shows
you that Hunter Biden was being protected by the CIA
and by other sort of shadowy forces within the United
States government, and Joe Biden had a relationship with them
and was their puppet for decades, and they gave the
(28:54):
Biden family a green light to be corrupt and to
influence pedal around the world. When Joe Biden was vice president.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Miranda Devine New York Post yesterday. I was talking about
this is kind of a broad media question for you.
I love our industry, even though I think that it's
oftentimes a complete total joke, which is, you know, a
bit bittersweet, I would say. But I was talking about
the New York Times and the Washington Post and their
refusal to cover what I think is the biggest political
(29:25):
story of the twenty first century. That is members of
our government rigging the election by saying that something that
was they knew to be true. That is an inaccurate
the hunter Biden laptop that it was actually Russian disinformation,
And I made the point I'm glad the New York
Post exists, but you guys are still an advertiser driven business.
(29:48):
It isn't so much of a subscription business. Don't you
think if you could wave a magic wand that there
is a huge need for a Washington Post or New
York Times that is just a little bit to the right.
They're far left wing. I know the Wall Street Journal,
(30:08):
but it's more of a business focused publication. I love it.
I like the New York Post. There is no direct
equivalent of the New York Times or the Washington Post.
In the modern US media industry, you can say Fox News, MSNBC, CNN,
that's the cable market. Am I crazy to think that
there is no just a little bit right leaning version
(30:30):
of the New York Times in the Washington Post? And
I think that matters because those newspapers are now just
Democrat propaganda machines, and they're used to launder the truth,
and there isn't someone punching back against them as often
as should be the case. Am I crazy?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Look, you're so right, and I think it would fix
a lot of problems in this country if they were
a sort of an establishment newspape. It doesn't have to
be left or right. I don't care if they write
democrat leaning editorials as long as they tell the truth.
All they have to do is be honest and not
planned everything, and also go out looking for dirt against
(31:07):
For instance, the New York Times today has gone out
and looked for somebody to say something nasty about Donald Trump.
At Arlington Cemetery, they looked up the name of a
family whose son is buried in the same cemetery, and
this person said something very anodyne but it gets twisted
out of context and turned into a slur against Donald Trump,
(31:30):
and then Democrat readers believe it, and then they write
to me and tell me I'm an idiot because I
don't know the truth. The New York Times and these
newspapers are propagandizing their readers, and their readers have their
polls showing that Democrats have enormous trust like seventy five
percent trust in their favorite media organs like the New
(31:51):
York Times and Washington Post, and Republicans don't because we
are forced to see both sides, and so we know
that most of the media is for of lies and propaganda,
and we filter recordingly, whereas Democrats are so naive that
they believe everything that they're told. And what's more, they
don't care even if you showed them proof that this
(32:13):
was a lie like Russia hoax. They don't care. They
don't want to know. They just want to stick in
their bubble of delusion.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She has Miranda Divine my number one overall draft pick
for the most honest reporter in the twenty first century.
So far, I can't wait to read the book. Make
sure that you come back on and get us early
copies so we can be ready to talk about it
here on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Love to thanks so much. Guy.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's Miranda Devine. Go follow her, Go read her at
the New York Post. She nailed everything on the Hunter
Biden laptop, and every day she becomes more and more correct,
and even people who are haters. I'm going to play
a clip for you from my good buddy Joe Scarborough
here in a little bit where he says the Hunter
(32:57):
Biden laptops completely fake. In fact, I'll play for you
and we come back. Look my guy Seaton, he runs chalk.
Some of you may have seen me rip out ten
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(33:18):
I didn't realize that I was such a beast. I
didn't realize how strong I was till so many people said,
you can't do that, Clay, and so I said, yeah
I can. Like I'm a forty five year old data three,
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because I still try to work out. And also, I
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talking with Miranda Divine about and I think about this
(34:43):
all the time, the number of people out there who
just don't know better. Sixty percent of people still believed
in the Democrat Party recently that the Hunter Biden laptop
was all made up Russian disinformation because they bought into
the lies that they were told by Joe Biden, and
that they were told by people who worked on MSNBC
and CNN and The New York Times. In the Washington Post,
(35:06):
here is Joe Scarborough saying, you're a moron essentially if
you believe the Hunter Biden laptop is anything other than
Russian disinformation, and history will judge you poorly for believing that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Listen, here we are in twenty twenty. This is what
it's come down to America. Juliani is feeding Russian misinformation
to Donald Trumps, feeding Russian disinformation to the New York Post.
They know it's a lie, Russian hoax. Come on, History
will expose you all as fools and useful idiots for
(35:41):
the Russians. For four years now there has been a
line from Russian agents into the campaign. It's unbelievable. How
stupid you think Americans are? For you can just say
Russian hoax? Seriously, Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
That aired on MSNBC. Joe Scarborough I tweeted it out
has never gone on the air and told his audience, Hey,
by the way, the Hunter Biden laptop was one hundred
percent rehab. There is accountability in media, certainly on this show.
If we get anything wrong, I come on. I tell
(36:20):
you Buck gets anything wrong, he comes on, he tells
you you may not like our opinions, but we've never
come out and said something like that. But that's what
they told everybody on MSNBC, that's what they told everybody
on CNN, the New York Times, of Washington Post. Democrats
believe more lies than you can possibly imagine. They just
(36:43):
don't hear the counter argument. Third Hour, Alex Barnson next
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