September 24, 2024 • 36 mins
C&B discuss an eye-opening WSJ story on Haitian migrants. The American health care system is broken. Canadian caller on health care. Miranda Devine talks with C&B about her new book, "The Big Guy: How a President and His Son Sold Out America." Harris says she wants to eliminate the filibuster to codify Roe v. Wade.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
had a lot of talk recently about Springfield, Ohio and
the situation of about twenty thousand Haitian migrants congregating there
in a town that had previously had what forty thousand
residents something like that, maybe fifty thousand, and Trump, it
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seems is now I believe, not going as of today
to Springfield Governor Dwine, who is not my favorite Republican governor.
But anyway, Governor Wine not particularly interested or helpful in
the idea, but I thought it would be interesting Clay
to just take a moment to first of all, give
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credit to Patrick Thomas over at the Wall Street Journal
for what I thought was a really interesting piece on
what's really going on with these Haitian migrants in terms
of what are they dealing with? Okay, because the story
if you were to watch Morning Joe, you know, as
Joe and Mika get out of the private jet, you know,
leave the country club in Nantucket long enough to do
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their shows from their private sets at home and have
chauffeurs drive them everywhere. You know, the Haitian migrants are
just they're living the American dream. Why are you opposed
to the American Dream. And as we've discussed, they are here.
And I'm glad that people understand this. They are here legally,
technically for now. There's a law passed by Congress in
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nineteen ninety that allows for the provision of temporary protected status.
Congress authorize the executive branch to do this. Don't get
mad at me, change the law. I mean they shouldn't.
I think this TPS thing is a big excuse for
abuse and it's nonsense. But I'm just pointing out what
the real legal situation is. This piece by Patrick Thomas
Wall Street Journal Clay, I think, really gets to something
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that needs to be discussed in the context of illegal immigration.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm gonna read you just the opening paragraph of this, okay,
and then we can start to dive into it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He writes. This is from Greely, Colorado. It's not in Ohio. JBS,
the world's largest meatpacking company. A quarter of all US beef.
It's Brazilian owned quarter of all US beef is processed here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Bills itself as the path to the American Dream for
the immigrants who staff at slaughterhouses and meat cutting lines.
The company erected employee housing near some plants, where as
many as sixty languages are spoken, and workers can learn
English after hours and take free community college courses. Here
in northern Colorado, though at one of the company's biggest
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beef plants, recently arrived workers from Haiti described grim living conditions.
A human resource to supervisor for JBS arranged some of
the immigrant workers to stay at a motel a mile
down the road, where they lived for weeks on end.
They slept on the floor eight to a room, cooked
meals on hot plates on the carpet, burned up the carpets,
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by the way, forty thousand dollars of damage in the motel.
JBS footed the bill. A supervisor himself an immigrant, set
up others to stay in a five bedroom, two bath
room unit he leased in town. There, too, people slept
on the floors, thirty or more people living in the house.
Thirty people living in this this four or five bedroom
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house with two bathrooms. Thirty people charge sixty dollars a
week in rent. Sixty dollars a week. Oh, that's right,
So that means that they're they're charging for this house.
That probably would you know, Clay rent for two thousand
a month, maybe something like that, eighteen hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, so they're running.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
They've got slumlord operations going on with these migrants taking
advantage of them.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And this is the final line. I'll give you play.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Some workers said they couldn't bear to tell loved ones
in Haiti about the conditions and that the US wasn't
supposed to be like this quote. It was worse than
being in jail, Clay. You know when people talk about
all migrants doing the jobs we won't do, and they're
so helpful the.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Community and stuff, there's massive exploitation.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And by the way, the cost that isn't born by
these companies that are underpaying and maltreating these workers are
born by society with public services, with welfare and hospital
emergency rooms and public schools that have to figure out
sixty languages.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, that's the challenge, right, is the incentive structure. And
we heard a big discussion about this in Springfield that
one reason Haitians are getting hired in Springfield is because
our government is doing a better job of subsidizing the
employment of illegals and recent migrants than they are actual citizens.
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And I want to mention this too. We had a
call in the first hour sixty two year old undecided
voter from Indiana talking about her health insurance, and a
bunch of you have reacted to that. One of the
big challenges on health insurance in general is without knowing
the particulars of someone's health conditions. And I didn't want
to dive into the particulars, like hey, what medications are
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you on?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What's cost? Health insurance a mess? Now?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Trump said in the debate that he was not going
to replace Obamacare unless there was something better. I think
he memorably said that he had concepts of a plan.
Really our health system and I think most of you
out there will totally agree with this is totally broken.
And I think that ties in with our immigration system
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and also the bureaucracy that we have created in the
United States in general. So much of it is nonsensical.
And I'll give you an example. I don't know if
I've told this story on the show, Buck, but this
is probably not going to stun any of you. I'm
not an expert when it comes to health insurance, and
we go because we got three young kids, we go
a lot of times to like a local health center.
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I went in once and I couldn't find my insurance card,
and I just said, hey, I think I've got the
wrong wallet. I'm not sure we got an updated insurance card.
They treated me buck as an uninsured individual. It costs
almost nothing. We got one tenth of the cost of
what it would have been if I had presented my
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insurance card. So we got the bills sent to the house.
This is a Vanderbilt clinic, and they said, oh, if
you don't have insurance, we charge you a fraction of
what we charge you if you have insurance. So I
just inadvertently did this with one of the kids. I
couldn't find my health insurance card. We got the benefit
of me not finding the health insurance card. My point
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on this is that's happening all over the country, where
those of us who have insurance are subsidizing all of
these illegals when they show up at emergency rooms and
run up bills into the tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They're never paying you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We are, in fact, we have something similar to universal
health care. It's just the costs are hidden and opaque
from the people that are actually paying the taxes. I
talked about this when the migrant crisis in New York
was really eating up, and even Mayor Adams himself of
New York City was saying, we can't handle this. Thirty
percent of emergency room hours and staff, you know, attention
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and time were spent on illegal immigrants who had just arrived.
They're you know, they're not all getting hit by cars
and mean rushed in the er. They go to the
er for routine medical correct Now, you could say, oh, well,
don't be heartless. Everyone needs medical carre Yeah, okay, I
understand that's why the ers have to treat people. But
if you you know, had fallen off a ladder and
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dislocated your shoulder and were an intense pain, and you're
told that you have to wait for an extra two
or three hours in the er because other people are
getting you know, free prescription glasses and whatever courtesy of
the taxpayer, you might be a little bit annoyed. And
I think that's very reasonable. I went into an eye
I actually had this experience. I had an eye injury.
I had cut on my cornea, and I went into
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like an eye hospital in New York to get to
get help Clay, and they were like, You're gonna have
to wait a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And I was like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I talked to them, sit there were you could tell
me there are a lot of people, non English speaking
individuals who are there for routine eye care. Yeah, you know,
doing vision tests, doing whatever. And this is a specialized
eye hospital and their version of the er. I'm like,
what am I doing here? So the healthcare system is
a mess, and it's because it's so complicated that anytime
you try to talk about it you get hit by
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people who pretend that they have a simple answer. You
do not want to go to a surgeon in Canada,
my friends, okay, have some of our Canadian friends. We
got listeners up north a they can call in and
tell everybody you do not want to wait six months
for your operation or more, or wait six months to
see a specialist. There are all these things that are
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giant mess.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know here in.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Florida, you drive the airport, what do you see everywhere everywhere?
Ambulance chasing, lawyer advertising. Yes, it is so bad that
a lot of doctors in Florida can't get insurance. You
know this for delivering babies, yes, And and you know
this is something you can imagine your wife is pregnant,
you want to get you can even have insurance, so
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they have to pay into this like accident pool, which
is kind of a run around on insurance, and they
call it going fairback, by the way, when they have
no insurance.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, they just have to deal with it. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
One of my best friends that went to law school
with is a medmol defense attorney, so basically all he
does is defend doctors, and different states have different laws
as it pertains to what is allowed to occur. But
I mean, honestly, if I could fix any one thing
in America today, it would be the healthcare system because
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it's completely broken. It's illogical. Even the way we do
insurance doesn't make sense. We connect insurance to jobs, which
basically makes the employer have to pay massively regularly increasing insurance.
And oh, by the way, here's the frustrating thing. I
bet there's er docs listening to us right now. A
lot of the healthcare isn't very good, so you're getting
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people going to the wrong doctors, You're getting people not
able to go to the right doctors. Heck, how many
of you out there right now now?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Listening to me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Have wanted to go see a doctor for some specific
issue that you have, and you have to go to
a general practitioner first to get a referral to go
see the doctor that you need to go see, and
the data all reflects on top of all this buck
you know, about half the healthcare that we get is
completely unnecessary because doctors are terrified they're going to get sued,
so they run unnecessary test to try to make sure
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that they can't get accused of negligence because they didn't
order this particular test. The profit margin on some of
these tests is through the roof, so they're also incentivized
in a in a perverse way to drive up the
amount of medical care they give to people. And the
end result is I don't think most people out there
feel like they're getting very good coverage. And none of
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this has anything to do with cost, which is the
number one way that we decide almost everything in America
is by cost. You at least know what something cost.
I mentioned this in the first hour. I've had three
We've had three kids. You go tour the hospital's buck
they give you like, hey, we have bamboo floors, we
have Wi Fi we have, like you know, ocean sounds
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for delivery. They never tell you what it costs. I asked,
I'm like, hey, why are you not competing on price?
It's you choose where to go. And they're like, oh,
we don't know about your insurance. We don't like to
get in. They couldn't even tell me where I was
gonna have to pay to have it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, there's a game that they engage in anyway, and
we'll come back to the Haitian migrants working situation in
a moment, But there's a game that they engage in
clay where you said that actually they charge you less
if you don't have insurance. But there's also the other
side of it where sometimes especially for specialty things, they
because they have a deal with the insurance company to
charge a certain rate, they can also end up charging
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you a lot more if you pay out of pocket
because they think you have the money.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So the whole thing is they don't want They just
want to figure out how to extract as much as
possible from whatever they can extract from. Yes, so if
they think you can pay, you'll end up charging That's
how you pay the most. If they think you can't
pay and you don't have insurance, then they'll charge the least,
but they want to keep open the option always of
billing your insurer and getting as much from the insurer
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as possible.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
A whole thing's mess.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, Laura, my wife, who you know well too, was
got the two bills basically in the same month. And
she said, how in the world did you only have
to pay twenty dollars to go for one of our kids,
I think, to get a strep throa test or something.
And the other kid had another issue, and you know,
it ended up like hundreds of dollars. And she called
and they said, oh, we marked your husband down as
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not having insurance for whatever reason, so we don't charge anything.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
There.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I went to an er because I was hoping they
give me IV because I had a stomach bug years ago.
I was living and I was like completely wasted with
food poisoning or something. And I remember I walked in
and waited so long that I left. I waited three hours. Yeah,
couldn't get anyone to see me, you know, give me
an IV bag or like that, because I was completely dehydrated.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, I got a bill. What do you think
the bill was for? For like ibuprofen, or like tile
and all or something.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They took my blod pressure and then sat me back
in the weighting room. What do you think they charged me.
It's two hundred and thirty dollars eleven hundred bucks. I
got a bill for eleven hundred dollars because someone came out,
took my blood pressure and said okay, and then sat
me back in the waiting room.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah. I mean it's a broken system. So it's completely broken.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And by the people that tell you, like Bernie and Kamala,
I mean, it's funny. I'm remembering all the battles about Obamacare.
Now that was just a cost shifting program that massively
expanded medicaid, and we're going bankrupt as a country, by
the way, overwhelming Obamacare, the coverage increases, we're actually medicaid
as in healthcare welfare, and we can't afford this. By
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the way, all these migrants are going to be getting
medicaid and they're not going to be paying federal income tax.
So how's that supposed to work out for the budget?
But look at us, we just got on a big
healthcare discussion. We weren't even planning on it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, well, nobody's it's funny. I mean, it's hardly a discussion.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Point.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh, you brought up that there's very little discussion about
the health care costs as I have.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You heard Trump talk about healthcare on any I I'm
not saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Someone's going to say you did.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I have not heard him talk about healthcare in this
cycle that I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I haven't heard Kamala talk about it. Well, but I
mean even in the debate, you know, we get questions
about jan six. I mean probably by far, the thing
that people care about the most is health insurance rates.
I know, if you run a business, what you have
to pay. And to your point to me, this ties
in directly with the migrant thing. They are never going
to pay their health care bills. Yes, trust me, you
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Speaker 3 (15:45):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We should
mention also the ticking time bomb on healthcare in general
is that the entire healthcare insurance business is predicated on
there being way more young people who typically don't need
health care as much as the elderly do. Guess what's
happening all over the industrialized world. The population of older
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people is starting to exceed in many countries the population
of young people, which makes even more of a ticking
time bomb this entire system. And Jeff, speaking of systems
up in Canada, I hear from people all the time
in Canada that they're just fed up with everything going
on healthcare wise as well.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What's it like in Ontario?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh, it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You'll wait up to I had to wait almost two
years just to get a double hernia operation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And it's getting us, isn't.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Justin Trudeau one of the most loathsome leaders of any
country in the world. Sorry to put you on the spot.
I hate that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I don't even live in his country.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Every second, Carl'll have something Trudeau sticker on the bump.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, well, thank you for the call. In the update,
I mean, I hope you're better now. I mean two
years to wait for hernie surgery. Hernie a surgery is crazy.
Justin Trudeau, by the way, buck up in our good
old fashioned top hat to the north.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There Canada.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
He's got a twenty some odd percent approval rating right now,
and I'd pay attention a little bit to Canadian politics
just in the context of obviously it's not that far
from Detroit or Buffalo or some American cities that are
in what's considered to be the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's losing seats.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Just recently happened that they never believed his party would
be capable of losing. And I wonder how much of
that Canadian connection just across the border from places, like
I said, like Detroit and Buffalo, is also filtering into
the American Midwest, where you do have more cross cultural
pollination between those areas.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It is intriguing. But healthcare is broken.
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And welcome back in everybody. We're joined now by the
Great Miranda Divine. Know only do we think she is great?
President Trump does too. Put this on truth Social The
Great Miranda Divine understood the harsh reality of the Laptop
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from Hell before the fake news media would even acknowledge
its existence. Now Miranda has written another blockbuster book, The
Big Guy. How a President and his son sold out America.
The Big Guy hits stores and the bottom line today, Miranda,
congrats again on the book and the shout out from
the other big guy, President Trump.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
How you doing, thanks, Bucking Clay. I'm doing really well
and I'm very happy and thrilled that Donald Trump has
actually endorsed the book.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
That's terrific.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How much of this is it feels like it's kind
of a sequel to Laptop from Hell or you know,
the next you know, the next phase of the.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Story, and what's really the focus.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I mean, it feels like, just from the title alone,
you want America to know this really wasn't about a
guy taking selfies and Tidy Whitey's with aviators on meeting Hunter.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's bigger issues here.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
It is a sequel, and it really is about the
cover up, you know, the Laptop from Hell and all
our reporting we did that got censored from Hunter. Biden's
abandoned Laptop tells the story of the sort of Biden
family influence peddling. But you know, that's a big story
and corruption is as old as Washington itself, and it
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showed us that Joe Biden the President, was potentially compromised
by China because of the millions of dollars his family
had brought in.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
But I think the biggest.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Story, and the story that sort of evolved only after
we started reporting out the truth from the laptop, was
the cover up, which began the minute the New York
Post published on October fourteen, twenty twenty, and we had
a big tech Facebook and Twitter sense of the story
immediately lock our account for two weeks until a couple
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of days before the election. And then you had these
former intelligence officials fifty one I call them the dirty
fifty one, who signed that letter falsely claiming that the
laptop and our stories were Russian disinformation. What we found
out in the four years since is just mind boggling,
the concerted effort by It wasn't just former intelligence officials.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It was the CIA.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
The CIA director herself, Gina Haspell at the time under
Donald Trump, she signed off on that letter. She was
shown the letter before it was issued to the public,
and she okayed that she gave it the green light.
And we also found out that several of the signatories
of that letter were actually active contractors for the CIA
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at the time. And then we also later find out
other interventions by the CIA, including into the investigation of
Hunter Biden in Delaware that dragged on for five years
because the Department of Justice was obstructing and hobbling the investigators.
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Anytime they tried to find out a follow any of
the evidence trails from Hunter Biden to his father who
was intimately involved in this corruption.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
They were blocked.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
They were told, no, you can't have a search warrant
on Joe Biden's property. No, you can't geolocate the phones
that were on Joe Biden's property that Hunter Biden was
telling his Chinese business partners that he was sitting in
a room with his father and his father was angry
that the money hadn't come through. They weren't allowed to
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interview Kevin Morris, who you know Hunter's business partners call
Hunter Biden's latest sugar brother, the Hollywood lawyer who basically
bankrolled his lifestyle and also paid up to six million
dollars for him, including for his IRS over due IRS taxes.
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And Kevin Morris, the CIA apparently called in the DOJ
the prosecutors and told them that he was off limits
for their investigation and the IRS. Investigators who became whistleblowers
were never told why they weren't allowed to interview Kevin Morris.
But eventually the prosecutors they worked with said, well we
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got called to Langley and they said leave off. There
were so many instances, and it was not just the CIA,
the FBI, the State Department, as I said, the Department
of Justice, the irs. They all conspired to cover up
the corruption and ensure at the twenty twenty election that
Joe Biden would win and that none of the derogatory
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information that we'd uncovered would see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Miranda, you brought this story out in October of twenty twenty.
We know it was one hundred percent true, yet it
was censored. As you've laid out, this new book discusses that,
how concerned are you about a twenty twenty four version
of what happened in twenty twenty, And if it were
to occur, what do you think it might look like?
(24:10):
As certainly that rigging may well have given Joe Biden
the election in twenty what are you concerned about as
you look six weeks out here from this election.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, that is top of mind, and I think that's
why I wrote the book, because the same people who
covered up and protected Joe Biden really throughout his career,
from his earliest days in the Senate at the age
of twenty nine p thirty, they are now propping up
Kamala Harris. And it's no surprise that in her sort
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of endorsement speech at the DNC in Chicago a few
weeks ago, that she made a point of talking about
the military and the military industrial complex, basically her.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Support for them.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It's no surprise that yesterday you had Vladimir Zelenski, the
Ukrainian President, intervene in our election, just as early voting
was starting in Pennsylvania. He flies into Pennsylvania to go
and stand alongside Kamala Harris, surrogates and sign bombs in
a factory there, and he was flown in by US
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military aircraft. This is the most outrageous intervention by I
guess you call it the National Security State or the blob,
as the Obama people used to call that sort of
triumvirate of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.
They I mean, even this week there were seven hundred
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and forty one members of these high ranking officials of
the National Security State who signed a letter endorsing Kamala Harris.
If you can believe it as a serious and capable
commander in chief, far superior to Donald Trump. And I
think really the agenda is this that Donald Trump as
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president presided over a period of remarkable calm.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And peace around the world.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
On foreign affairs, he treated everything the way he treated
a domestic policy, just like a developer from a property
developer from Queens. He was practical, first principles, logical, just
tried to fix problems the safest and quickest and cheapest
way possible and most effectively.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
And he did that.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
And we saw in the Middle East and the Abraham Accords.
We saw the Vladimir Putin, unlike under Obama and under Biden,
he did not invade Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
We saw isis defeated.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
We saw Iran on its knees, completely broke and unable
to fund any of its proxies to attack Israel. Several
of its high ranking people were wiped out by Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
North was in its box.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
You know, you would think for the American people, for
America's national interest, all of that would be beneficial. And
yet no, because these national security apparatchiks who are completely
out of control. They are a shadow government, and their
puppet was Donald was sorry, was Joe Biden. Their new
puppet is Kamala Harrison. Of course, her sidekick Tim Waltz,
(27:25):
who plays the same role that Joe Biden did for
Obama as being the sort of foreign policy guy who's
completely captured by China.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Marana Devine with us the big guy, How a President
and his son saw That America Her book that is
out today, sequel to her best selling laptop from How
Go Get your copy? Miranda, I know you wrote a
piece of The New York Post. We didn't spend much
time on this on the show. I kind of wish
we had dove into a little more. So this is
our first opportunity. Biden had a cabinet meeting on Friday,
(27:56):
but Jill Biden was running the cabinet meeting, which I
think is fair to add considering Biden clearly has cognitive
decline from age. Is Jill Biden the de facto president now?
Because I don't think we signed up for doctor Gilder
on things.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Yeah, well, she certainly thinks that she's pretty important.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
There.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
She was on Friday, as you said, presiding over a
cabinet meeting, sitting at the head of the table, expounding
on some pet ridiculous project of hers, and then you know,
around the table cabinet members, including sitting right next to her,
the CIA Director William Burns, had to dutifully applaud her,
while Joe Biden's just staring vacantly into space. I mean,
(28:38):
if anything, he's gone downhill since his disastrous debate. Whatever
they were doing to prop him up and make him
seem relatively rational, they seem to have given up doing.
We hardly ever see him. He had to come out
of his box, of course over the weekend because he
had the prime ministers from India and Japan and Australia
(29:00):
arrive for that really important quad meeting which is about
sort of stemming China's aggression in the Indo Pacific, and
instead of having them at the White House as they
were last time, as they should be, they were insulted
by being having to schlep all the way out to
Wilmington to Joe Biden's hometown stay in subpar lodgings. While
(29:25):
Jill Biden took over the White House for her own
pet projects, and she had, for instance, the cast of
the West Wing there for a party, and she had
some educators confab on another day, So there was just
no room for the leaders of two billion people to
talk about how to stop China from taking over half
the half the world.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Miranda, what do you think would happen if China invaded Taiwan?
But who would actually make decisions in the White House
right now?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Look, I think it's really frightening to think who is
making the decisions. Obviously, Joe Biden is in no state
to answer the phone at three o'clock.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
In the morning.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
He's in no state to control the nuclear arsenal. It's
shadowy people. It's Tony Blink, and it's Jake Sullivan, It's
whoever at the Pentagon. It's this shadow cabal, the shadow
government that's controlling things, that will do whatever it takes
to ensure that Donald Trump is not president again.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
And I mean whatever it takes.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
You know, they are desperate and they think that Donald
Trump is an existential threat not to America, not to democracy,
but to their own power, their own control of things.
So I honestly cannot tell you. I don't think anyone
can really tell you what's going on behind the scenes.
Some people say that Obama is pulling the strings from
(30:48):
around the corner.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
That could be the case.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
So he has a lot of his people stashed there
at the White House running and the DOJ running things.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
What do you think, Miranda, last quest for you, and
we appreciate you encourage everybody to go get the new
book that is out that is rocketing up bestseller list.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
What do you think? Or how long maybe it's a
better way to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
How long do you think it will be until we
get the true story of Joe Biden behind the scenes
and how decrepit and frail he has really been. Do
you think before he leaves a couple of months after
the inauguration of whoever wins, what does that look like
for the historical record.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Well, I think that all the journalists in Washington who
knew exactly what was going on, will be in a
huge arms race to see who can get the book
out first and get the biggest advance. So they won't
be were they'll be writing it right now, and they'll
push the button after the election because of course they
won't want to damage Kamala Harris's prospects because she's better
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than anyone except probably Jill Biden and Hunter Biden. What
Joe Biden's cognitive state was like they were supposed to
be having lunch every week, that sort of piece it
off to just semi regularly. But she was also boasted
about being the last person in the room when decisions
were made. She knew exactly what was wrong with him,
and yet she lied through her teeth to the American people,
(32:12):
telling us that he was sharp as attack and brilliant
and ready to run another term and no problem at all.
I guess she was hoping that he would stumble across
the finish line win the election so that she could
just be anointed without having to go through the discomfort
of an election. But she's hardly really putting herself out.
I wouldn't call what she's doing campaigning.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Go get the book.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The big guy, our president and his son sold out America, Miranda.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We're big fans over here.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thanks for all the work you do, and we'll talk
to you again soon, hopefully celebrating Trump's went after this election.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yeah, thanks so much, Buck and Clay.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Great to have you.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
Welcome back in to play Travis buck Sexton Show. Thanks
to Miranda Devine. She's always fantastic. She was right about
everything surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop. Should let you know
about a story that has broken in the last hour
or so. Kamala Harrison one of her limited media engagements,
I believe it was with Wisconsin Public Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Buck, I'm sure that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, no kidding said she wants to end the filibuster
to codify Roe v.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Wade.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Now this is a big deal. Joe Manchin has just
said I cannot endorse her. Formerly the Democrat senator now
turned independent from West Virginia. Kirsten Cinema has written this
as well. The battle over whether the filibuster should be
maintained in the Senate has been pretty epic over the years. Buck,
(35:01):
this is a pretty radical idea of Kamalas and again,
I think it's emblematic of the fact that she wants
her closing argument to effectively be abortion.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, this is her entire campaign in any way.
This is It's a big deal on a couple of levels.
Obviously on the on the abortion side of things. If
they were to codify, meaning pass a law for all
fifty states mandating abortion at a certain level. It opens
up the other side of things, which is, well, now
(35:34):
Republicans will say, well, if we have the majority, you
know you're gonna you have the seesaw possibility of abortion
legal abortion much less legal. I don't think they'll ever
get rid of abortion everywhere, even Republicans wouldn't go along
with it. But you know, they might do a heartbeat,
you know, a heartbeat bill something like that. Maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe there's actually no.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I'm not wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They wouldn't get beyond a heartbeat bill right now based
on where the Republicans are.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But also getting rid of the philibuster is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, this is like what the craziest left wing members
of Congress have been saying. So they could make DC
a state, and make Puerto Rico a state, and pack
the Supreme Court. So once you get rid of it
for one thing, you've gotten rid.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Of it for everything.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Not only that, it would all also lead to radical
swings in public policy based on limited support member.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't think they're going to get the Senate.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That's why, in addition to the presidency going and voting
in Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Montana and Arizona
and Nevada, all these different battleground states is so incredibly
important in West Virginia where Joe Manchin is going to
lose that vote. But this I don't think is unintentional.
It's a pretty radical proposition that Kamala is putting forward,
(36:46):
and I think it's because they've recognized that other than abortion,
she really has nothing to run on at all.
All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now
had a lot of talk recently about Springfield, Ohio and
the situation of about twenty thousand Haitian migrants congregating there
in a town that had previously had what forty thousand
residents something like that, maybe fifty thousand, and Trump, it
(00:21):
seems is now I believe, not going as of today
to Springfield Governor Dwine, who is not my favorite Republican governor.
But anyway, Governor Wine not particularly interested or helpful in
the idea, but I thought it would be interesting Clay
to just take a moment to first of all, give
(00:43):
credit to Patrick Thomas over at the Wall Street Journal
for what I thought was a really interesting piece on
what's really going on with these Haitian migrants in terms
of what are they dealing with? Okay, because the story
if you were to watch Morning Joe, you know, as
Joe and Mika get out of the private jet, you know,
leave the country club in Nantucket long enough to do
(01:03):
their shows from their private sets at home and have
chauffeurs drive them everywhere. You know, the Haitian migrants are
just they're living the American dream. Why are you opposed
to the American Dream. And as we've discussed, they are here.
And I'm glad that people understand this. They are here legally,
technically for now. There's a law passed by Congress in
(01:24):
nineteen ninety that allows for the provision of temporary protected status.
Congress authorize the executive branch to do this. Don't get
mad at me, change the law. I mean they shouldn't.
I think this TPS thing is a big excuse for
abuse and it's nonsense. But I'm just pointing out what
the real legal situation is. This piece by Patrick Thomas
Wall Street Journal Clay, I think, really gets to something
(01:46):
that needs to be discussed in the context of illegal immigration.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
What's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm gonna read you just the opening paragraph of this, okay,
and then we can start to dive into it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
He writes. This is from Greely, Colorado. It's not in Ohio. JBS,
the world's largest meatpacking company. A quarter of all US beef.
It's Brazilian owned quarter of all US beef is processed here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Bills itself as the path to the American Dream for
the immigrants who staff at slaughterhouses and meat cutting lines.
The company erected employee housing near some plants, where as
many as sixty languages are spoken, and workers can learn
English after hours and take free community college courses. Here
in northern Colorado, though at one of the company's biggest
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beef plants, recently arrived workers from Haiti described grim living conditions.
A human resource to supervisor for JBS arranged some of
the immigrant workers to stay at a motel a mile
down the road, where they lived for weeks on end.
They slept on the floor eight to a room, cooked
meals on hot plates on the carpet, burned up the carpets,
(02:51):
by the way, forty thousand dollars of damage in the motel.
JBS footed the bill. A supervisor himself an immigrant, set
up others to stay in a five bedroom, two bath
room unit he leased in town. There, too, people slept
on the floors, thirty or more people living in the house.
Thirty people living in this this four or five bedroom
(03:13):
house with two bathrooms. Thirty people charge sixty dollars a
week in rent. Sixty dollars a week. Oh, that's right,
So that means that they're they're charging for this house.
That probably would you know, Clay rent for two thousand
a month, maybe something like that, eighteen hundred dollars a week.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, so they're running.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
They've got slumlord operations going on with these migrants taking
advantage of them.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And this is the final line. I'll give you play.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Some workers said they couldn't bear to tell loved ones
in Haiti about the conditions and that the US wasn't
supposed to be like this quote. It was worse than
being in jail, Clay. You know when people talk about
all migrants doing the jobs we won't do, and they're
so helpful the.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Community and stuff, there's massive exploitation.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And by the way, the cost that isn't born by
these companies that are underpaying and maltreating these workers are
born by society with public services, with welfare and hospital
emergency rooms and public schools that have to figure out
sixty languages.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, that's the challenge, right, is the incentive structure. And
we heard a big discussion about this in Springfield that
one reason Haitians are getting hired in Springfield is because
our government is doing a better job of subsidizing the
employment of illegals and recent migrants than they are actual citizens.
(04:37):
And I want to mention this too. We had a
call in the first hour sixty two year old undecided
voter from Indiana talking about her health insurance, and a
bunch of you have reacted to that. One of the
big challenges on health insurance in general is without knowing
the particulars of someone's health conditions. And I didn't want
to dive into the particulars, like hey, what medications are
(04:59):
you on?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What's cost? Health insurance a mess? Now?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Trump said in the debate that he was not going
to replace Obamacare unless there was something better. I think
he memorably said that he had concepts of a plan.
Really our health system and I think most of you
out there will totally agree with this is totally broken.
And I think that ties in with our immigration system
(05:24):
and also the bureaucracy that we have created in the
United States in general. So much of it is nonsensical.
And I'll give you an example. I don't know if
I've told this story on the show, Buck, but this
is probably not going to stun any of you. I'm
not an expert when it comes to health insurance, and
we go because we got three young kids, we go
a lot of times to like a local health center.
(05:47):
I went in once and I couldn't find my insurance card,
and I just said, hey, I think I've got the
wrong wallet. I'm not sure we got an updated insurance card.
They treated me buck as an uninsured individual. It costs
almost nothing. We got one tenth of the cost of
what it would have been if I had presented my
(06:10):
insurance card. So we got the bills sent to the house.
This is a Vanderbilt clinic, and they said, oh, if
you don't have insurance, we charge you a fraction of
what we charge you if you have insurance. So I
just inadvertently did this with one of the kids. I
couldn't find my health insurance card. We got the benefit
of me not finding the health insurance card. My point
(06:31):
on this is that's happening all over the country, where
those of us who have insurance are subsidizing all of
these illegals when they show up at emergency rooms and
run up bills into the tens of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
They're never paying you.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
We are, in fact, we have something similar to universal
health care. It's just the costs are hidden and opaque
from the people that are actually paying the taxes. I
talked about this when the migrant crisis in New York
was really eating up, and even Mayor Adams himself of
New York City was saying, we can't handle this. Thirty
percent of emergency room hours and staff, you know, attention
(07:09):
and time were spent on illegal immigrants who had just arrived.
They're you know, they're not all getting hit by cars
and mean rushed in the er. They go to the
er for routine medical correct Now, you could say, oh, well,
don't be heartless. Everyone needs medical carre Yeah, okay, I
understand that's why the ers have to treat people. But
if you you know, had fallen off a ladder and
(07:30):
dislocated your shoulder and were an intense pain, and you're
told that you have to wait for an extra two
or three hours in the er because other people are
getting you know, free prescription glasses and whatever courtesy of
the taxpayer, you might be a little bit annoyed. And
I think that's very reasonable. I went into an eye
I actually had this experience. I had an eye injury.
I had cut on my cornea, and I went into
(07:52):
like an eye hospital in New York to get to
get help Clay, and they were like, You're gonna have
to wait a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And I was like, well, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I talked to them, sit there were you could tell
me there are a lot of people, non English speaking
individuals who are there for routine eye care. Yeah, you know,
doing vision tests, doing whatever. And this is a specialized
eye hospital and their version of the er. I'm like,
what am I doing here? So the healthcare system is
a mess, and it's because it's so complicated that anytime
you try to talk about it you get hit by
(08:20):
people who pretend that they have a simple answer. You
do not want to go to a surgeon in Canada,
my friends, okay, have some of our Canadian friends. We
got listeners up north a they can call in and
tell everybody you do not want to wait six months
for your operation or more, or wait six months to
see a specialist. There are all these things that are
(08:40):
giant mess.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know here in.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Florida, you drive the airport, what do you see everywhere everywhere?
Ambulance chasing, lawyer advertising. Yes, it is so bad that
a lot of doctors in Florida can't get insurance. You
know this for delivering babies, yes, And and you know
this is something you can imagine your wife is pregnant,
you want to get you can even have insurance, so
(09:01):
they have to pay into this like accident pool, which
is kind of a run around on insurance, and they
call it going fairback, by the way, when they have
no insurance.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, they just have to deal with it. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
One of my best friends that went to law school
with is a medmol defense attorney, so basically all he
does is defend doctors, and different states have different laws
as it pertains to what is allowed to occur. But
I mean, honestly, if I could fix any one thing
in America today, it would be the healthcare system because
(09:33):
it's completely broken. It's illogical. Even the way we do
insurance doesn't make sense. We connect insurance to jobs, which
basically makes the employer have to pay massively regularly increasing insurance.
And oh, by the way, here's the frustrating thing. I
bet there's er docs listening to us right now. A
lot of the healthcare isn't very good, so you're getting
(09:53):
people going to the wrong doctors, You're getting people not
able to go to the right doctors. Heck, how many
of you out there right now now?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Listening to me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Have wanted to go see a doctor for some specific
issue that you have, and you have to go to
a general practitioner first to get a referral to go
see the doctor that you need to go see, and
the data all reflects on top of all this buck
you know, about half the healthcare that we get is
completely unnecessary because doctors are terrified they're going to get sued,
so they run unnecessary test to try to make sure
(10:23):
that they can't get accused of negligence because they didn't
order this particular test. The profit margin on some of
these tests is through the roof, so they're also incentivized
in a in a perverse way to drive up the
amount of medical care they give to people. And the
end result is I don't think most people out there
feel like they're getting very good coverage. And none of
(10:45):
this has anything to do with cost, which is the
number one way that we decide almost everything in America
is by cost. You at least know what something cost.
I mentioned this in the first hour. I've had three
We've had three kids. You go tour the hospital's buck
they give you like, hey, we have bamboo floors, we
have Wi Fi we have, like you know, ocean sounds
(11:08):
for delivery. They never tell you what it costs. I asked,
I'm like, hey, why are you not competing on price?
It's you choose where to go. And they're like, oh,
we don't know about your insurance. We don't like to
get in. They couldn't even tell me where I was
gonna have to pay to have it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, there's a game that they engage in anyway, and
we'll come back to the Haitian migrants working situation in
a moment, But there's a game that they engage in
clay where you said that actually they charge you less
if you don't have insurance. But there's also the other
side of it where sometimes especially for specialty things, they
because they have a deal with the insurance company to
charge a certain rate, they can also end up charging
(11:43):
you a lot more if you pay out of pocket
because they think you have the money.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So the whole thing is they don't want They just
want to figure out how to extract as much as
possible from whatever they can extract from. Yes, so if
they think you can pay, you'll end up charging That's
how you pay the most. If they think you can't
pay and you don't have insurance, then they'll charge the least,
but they want to keep open the option always of
billing your insurer and getting as much from the insurer
(12:06):
as possible.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
A whole thing's mess.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, Laura, my wife, who you know well too, was
got the two bills basically in the same month. And
she said, how in the world did you only have
to pay twenty dollars to go for one of our kids,
I think, to get a strep throa test or something.
And the other kid had another issue, and you know,
it ended up like hundreds of dollars. And she called
and they said, oh, we marked your husband down as
(12:30):
not having insurance for whatever reason, so we don't charge anything.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
There.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I went to an er because I was hoping they
give me IV because I had a stomach bug years ago.
I was living and I was like completely wasted with
food poisoning or something. And I remember I walked in
and waited so long that I left. I waited three hours. Yeah,
couldn't get anyone to see me, you know, give me
an IV bag or like that, because I was completely dehydrated.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, I got a bill. What do you think
the bill was for? For like ibuprofen, or like tile
and all or something.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They took my blod pressure and then sat me back
in the weighting room. What do you think they charged me.
It's two hundred and thirty dollars eleven hundred bucks. I
got a bill for eleven hundred dollars because someone came out,
took my blood pressure and said okay, and then sat
me back in the waiting room.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah. I mean it's a broken system. So it's completely broken.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And by the people that tell you, like Bernie and Kamala,
I mean, it's funny. I'm remembering all the battles about Obamacare.
Now that was just a cost shifting program that massively
expanded medicaid, and we're going bankrupt as a country, by
the way, overwhelming Obamacare, the coverage increases, we're actually medicaid
as in healthcare welfare, and we can't afford this. By
(13:37):
the way, all these migrants are going to be getting
medicaid and they're not going to be paying federal income tax.
So how's that supposed to work out for the budget?
But look at us, we just got on a big
healthcare discussion. We weren't even planning on it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, well, nobody's it's funny. I mean, it's hardly a discussion.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Point.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh, you brought up that there's very little discussion about
the health care costs as I have.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You heard Trump talk about healthcare on any I I'm
not saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Someone's going to say you did.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I have not heard him talk about healthcare in this
cycle that I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I haven't heard Kamala talk about it. Well, but I
mean even in the debate, you know, we get questions
about jan six. I mean probably by far, the thing
that people care about the most is health insurance rates.
I know, if you run a business, what you have
to pay. And to your point to me, this ties
in directly with the migrant thing. They are never going
to pay their health care bills. Yes, trust me, you
(14:27):
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Speaker 3 (15:45):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We should
mention also the ticking time bomb on healthcare in general
is that the entire healthcare insurance business is predicated on
there being way more young people who typically don't need
health care as much as the elderly do. Guess what's
happening all over the industrialized world. The population of older
(16:08):
people is starting to exceed in many countries the population
of young people, which makes even more of a ticking
time bomb this entire system. And Jeff, speaking of systems
up in Canada, I hear from people all the time
in Canada that they're just fed up with everything going
on healthcare wise as well.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
What's it like in Ontario?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Oh, it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You'll wait up to I had to wait almost two
years just to get a double hernia operation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And it's getting us, isn't.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Justin Trudeau one of the most loathsome leaders of any
country in the world. Sorry to put you on the spot.
I hate that guy.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I don't even live in his country.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Every second, Carl'll have something Trudeau sticker on the bump.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, well, thank you for the call. In the update,
I mean, I hope you're better now. I mean two
years to wait for hernie surgery. Hernie a surgery is crazy.
Justin Trudeau, by the way, buck up in our good
old fashioned top hat to the north.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
There Canada.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
He's got a twenty some odd percent approval rating right now,
and I'd pay attention a little bit to Canadian politics
just in the context of obviously it's not that far
from Detroit or Buffalo or some American cities that are
in what's considered to be the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's losing seats.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Just recently happened that they never believed his party would
be capable of losing. And I wonder how much of
that Canadian connection just across the border from places, like
I said, like Detroit and Buffalo, is also filtering into
the American Midwest, where you do have more cross cultural
pollination between those areas.
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It is intriguing. But healthcare is broken.
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And welcome back in everybody. We're joined now by the
Great Miranda Divine. Know only do we think she is great?
President Trump does too. Put this on truth Social The
Great Miranda Divine understood the harsh reality of the Laptop
(19:11):
from Hell before the fake news media would even acknowledge
its existence. Now Miranda has written another blockbuster book, The
Big Guy. How a President and his son sold out America.
The Big Guy hits stores and the bottom line today, Miranda,
congrats again on the book and the shout out from
the other big guy, President Trump.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
How you doing, thanks, Bucking Clay. I'm doing really well
and I'm very happy and thrilled that Donald Trump has
actually endorsed the book.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
That's terrific.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
How much of this is it feels like it's kind
of a sequel to Laptop from Hell or you know,
the next you know, the next phase of the.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Story, and what's really the focus.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I mean, it feels like, just from the title alone,
you want America to know this really wasn't about a
guy taking selfies and Tidy Whitey's with aviators on meeting Hunter.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's bigger issues here.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
It is a sequel, and it really is about the
cover up, you know, the Laptop from Hell and all
our reporting we did that got censored from Hunter. Biden's
abandoned Laptop tells the story of the sort of Biden
family influence peddling. But you know, that's a big story
and corruption is as old as Washington itself, and it
(20:27):
showed us that Joe Biden the President, was potentially compromised
by China because of the millions of dollars his family
had brought in.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
But I think the biggest.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Story, and the story that sort of evolved only after
we started reporting out the truth from the laptop, was
the cover up, which began the minute the New York
Post published on October fourteen, twenty twenty, and we had
a big tech Facebook and Twitter sense of the story
immediately lock our account for two weeks until a couple
(20:59):
of days before the election. And then you had these
former intelligence officials fifty one I call them the dirty
fifty one, who signed that letter falsely claiming that the
laptop and our stories were Russian disinformation. What we found
out in the four years since is just mind boggling,
the concerted effort by It wasn't just former intelligence officials.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It was the CIA.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
The CIA director herself, Gina Haspell at the time under
Donald Trump, she signed off on that letter. She was
shown the letter before it was issued to the public,
and she okayed that she gave it the green light.
And we also found out that several of the signatories
of that letter were actually active contractors for the CIA
(21:46):
at the time. And then we also later find out
other interventions by the CIA, including into the investigation of
Hunter Biden in Delaware that dragged on for five years
because the Department of Justice was obstructing and hobbling the investigators.
(22:07):
Anytime they tried to find out a follow any of
the evidence trails from Hunter Biden to his father who
was intimately involved in this corruption.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
They were blocked.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
They were told, no, you can't have a search warrant
on Joe Biden's property. No, you can't geolocate the phones
that were on Joe Biden's property that Hunter Biden was
telling his Chinese business partners that he was sitting in
a room with his father and his father was angry
that the money hadn't come through. They weren't allowed to
(22:38):
interview Kevin Morris, who you know Hunter's business partners call
Hunter Biden's latest sugar brother, the Hollywood lawyer who basically
bankrolled his lifestyle and also paid up to six million
dollars for him, including for his IRS over due IRS taxes.
(23:01):
And Kevin Morris, the CIA apparently called in the DOJ
the prosecutors and told them that he was off limits
for their investigation and the IRS. Investigators who became whistleblowers
were never told why they weren't allowed to interview Kevin Morris.
But eventually the prosecutors they worked with said, well we
(23:23):
got called to Langley and they said leave off. There
were so many instances, and it was not just the CIA,
the FBI, the State Department, as I said, the Department
of Justice, the irs. They all conspired to cover up
the corruption and ensure at the twenty twenty election that
Joe Biden would win and that none of the derogatory
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information that we'd uncovered would see the light of day.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Miranda, you brought this story out in October of twenty twenty.
We know it was one hundred percent true, yet it
was censored. As you've laid out, this new book discusses that,
how concerned are you about a twenty twenty four version
of what happened in twenty twenty, And if it were
to occur, what do you think it might look like?
(24:10):
As certainly that rigging may well have given Joe Biden
the election in twenty what are you concerned about as
you look six weeks out here from this election.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, that is top of mind, and I think that's
why I wrote the book, because the same people who
covered up and protected Joe Biden really throughout his career,
from his earliest days in the Senate at the age
of twenty nine p thirty, they are now propping up
Kamala Harris. And it's no surprise that in her sort
(24:43):
of endorsement speech at the DNC in Chicago a few
weeks ago, that she made a point of talking about
the military and the military industrial complex, basically her.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Support for them.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It's no surprise that yesterday you had Vladimir Zelenski, the
Ukrainian President, intervene in our election, just as early voting
was starting in Pennsylvania. He flies into Pennsylvania to go
and stand alongside Kamala Harris, surrogates and sign bombs in
a factory there, and he was flown in by US
(25:19):
military aircraft. This is the most outrageous intervention by I
guess you call it the National Security State or the blob,
as the Obama people used to call that sort of
triumvirate of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.
They I mean, even this week there were seven hundred
(25:42):
and forty one members of these high ranking officials of
the National Security State who signed a letter endorsing Kamala Harris.
If you can believe it as a serious and capable
commander in chief, far superior to Donald Trump. And I
think really the agenda is this that Donald Trump as
(26:03):
president presided over a period of remarkable calm.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And peace around the world.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
On foreign affairs, he treated everything the way he treated
a domestic policy, just like a developer from a property
developer from Queens. He was practical, first principles, logical, just
tried to fix problems the safest and quickest and cheapest
way possible and most effectively.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
And he did that.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
And we saw in the Middle East and the Abraham Accords.
We saw the Vladimir Putin, unlike under Obama and under Biden,
he did not invade Ukraine.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
We saw isis defeated.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
We saw Iran on its knees, completely broke and unable
to fund any of its proxies to attack Israel. Several
of its high ranking people were wiped out by Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
North was in its box.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
You know, you would think for the American people, for
America's national interest, all of that would be beneficial. And
yet no, because these national security apparatchiks who are completely
out of control. They are a shadow government, and their
puppet was Donald was sorry, was Joe Biden. Their new
puppet is Kamala Harrison. Of course, her sidekick Tim Waltz,
(27:25):
who plays the same role that Joe Biden did for
Obama as being the sort of foreign policy guy who's
completely captured by China.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Marana Devine with us the big guy, How a President
and his son saw That America Her book that is
out today, sequel to her best selling laptop from How
Go Get your copy? Miranda, I know you wrote a
piece of The New York Post. We didn't spend much
time on this on the show. I kind of wish
we had dove into a little more. So this is
our first opportunity. Biden had a cabinet meeting on Friday,
(27:56):
but Jill Biden was running the cabinet meeting, which I
think is fair to add considering Biden clearly has cognitive
decline from age. Is Jill Biden the de facto president now?
Because I don't think we signed up for doctor Gilder
on things.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
Yeah, well, she certainly thinks that she's pretty important.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
There.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
She was on Friday, as you said, presiding over a
cabinet meeting, sitting at the head of the table, expounding
on some pet ridiculous project of hers, and then you know,
around the table cabinet members, including sitting right next to her,
the CIA Director William Burns, had to dutifully applaud her,
while Joe Biden's just staring vacantly into space. I mean,
(28:38):
if anything, he's gone downhill since his disastrous debate. Whatever
they were doing to prop him up and make him
seem relatively rational, they seem to have given up doing.
We hardly ever see him. He had to come out
of his box, of course over the weekend because he
had the prime ministers from India and Japan and Australia
(29:00):
arrive for that really important quad meeting which is about
sort of stemming China's aggression in the Indo Pacific, and
instead of having them at the White House as they
were last time, as they should be, they were insulted
by being having to schlep all the way out to
Wilmington to Joe Biden's hometown stay in subpar lodgings. While
(29:25):
Jill Biden took over the White House for her own
pet projects, and she had, for instance, the cast of
the West Wing there for a party, and she had
some educators confab on another day, So there was just
no room for the leaders of two billion people to
talk about how to stop China from taking over half
the half the world.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Miranda, what do you think would happen if China invaded Taiwan?
But who would actually make decisions in the White House
right now?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Look, I think it's really frightening to think who is
making the decisions. Obviously, Joe Biden is in no state
to answer the phone at three o'clock.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
In the morning.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
He's in no state to control the nuclear arsenal. It's
shadowy people. It's Tony Blink, and it's Jake Sullivan, It's
whoever at the Pentagon. It's this shadow cabal, the shadow
government that's controlling things, that will do whatever it takes
to ensure that Donald Trump is not president again.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
And I mean whatever it takes.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
You know, they are desperate and they think that Donald
Trump is an existential threat not to America, not to democracy,
but to their own power, their own control of things.
So I honestly cannot tell you. I don't think anyone
can really tell you what's going on behind the scenes.
Some people say that Obama is pulling the strings from
(30:48):
around the corner.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
That could be the case.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
So he has a lot of his people stashed there
at the White House running and the DOJ running things.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
What do you think, Miranda, last quest for you, and
we appreciate you encourage everybody to go get the new
book that is out that is rocketing up bestseller list.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
What do you think? Or how long maybe it's a
better way to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
How long do you think it will be until we
get the true story of Joe Biden behind the scenes
and how decrepit and frail he has really been. Do
you think before he leaves a couple of months after
the inauguration of whoever wins, what does that look like
for the historical record.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Well, I think that all the journalists in Washington who
knew exactly what was going on, will be in a
huge arms race to see who can get the book
out first and get the biggest advance. So they won't
be were they'll be writing it right now, and they'll
push the button after the election because of course they
won't want to damage Kamala Harris's prospects because she's better
(31:51):
than anyone except probably Jill Biden and Hunter Biden. What
Joe Biden's cognitive state was like they were supposed to
be having lunch every week, that sort of piece it
off to just semi regularly. But she was also boasted
about being the last person in the room when decisions
were made. She knew exactly what was wrong with him,
and yet she lied through her teeth to the American people,
(32:12):
telling us that he was sharp as attack and brilliant
and ready to run another term and no problem at all.
I guess she was hoping that he would stumble across
the finish line win the election so that she could
just be anointed without having to go through the discomfort
of an election. But she's hardly really putting herself out.
I wouldn't call what she's doing campaigning.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Go get the book.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The big guy, our president and his son sold out America, Miranda.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We're big fans over here.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thanks for all the work you do, and we'll talk
to you again soon, hopefully celebrating Trump's went after this election.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
But we'll see.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yeah, thanks so much, Buck and Clay.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Great to have you.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
Welcome back in to play Travis buck Sexton Show. Thanks
to Miranda Devine. She's always fantastic. She was right about
everything surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop. Should let you know
about a story that has broken in the last hour
or so. Kamala Harrison one of her limited media engagements,
I believe it was with Wisconsin Public Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Buck, I'm sure that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, no kidding said she wants to end the filibuster
to codify Roe v.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Wade.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Now this is a big deal. Joe Manchin has just
said I cannot endorse her. Formerly the Democrat senator now
turned independent from West Virginia. Kirsten Cinema has written this
as well. The battle over whether the filibuster should be
maintained in the Senate has been pretty epic over the years. Buck,
(35:01):
this is a pretty radical idea of Kamalas and again,
I think it's emblematic of the fact that she wants
her closing argument to effectively be abortion.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I mean, this is her entire campaign in any way.
This is It's a big deal on a couple of levels.
Obviously on the on the abortion side of things. If
they were to codify, meaning pass a law for all
fifty states mandating abortion at a certain level. It opens
up the other side of things, which is, well, now
(35:34):
Republicans will say, well, if we have the majority, you
know you're gonna you have the seesaw possibility of abortion
legal abortion much less legal. I don't think they'll ever
get rid of abortion everywhere, even Republicans wouldn't go along
with it. But you know, they might do a heartbeat,
you know, a heartbeat bill something like that. Maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe there's actually no.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I'm not wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
They wouldn't get beyond a heartbeat bill right now based
on where the Republicans are.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But also getting rid of the philibuster is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, this is like what the craziest left wing members
of Congress have been saying. So they could make DC
a state, and make Puerto Rico a state, and pack
the Supreme Court. So once you get rid of it
for one thing, you've gotten rid.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Of it for everything.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Not only that, it would all also lead to radical
swings in public policy based on limited support member.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't think they're going to get the Senate.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
That's why, in addition to the presidency going and voting
in Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Montana and Arizona
and Nevada, all these different battleground states is so incredibly
important in West Virginia where Joe Manchin is going to
lose that vote. But this I don't think is unintentional.
It's a pretty radical proposition that Kamala is putting forward,
(36:46):
and I think it's because they've recognized that other than abortion,
she really has nothing to run on at all.
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