November 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Author and investigative journalist, Alex Berenson, explains why he voted for Trump for the first time. Trump names Mike Huckabee Ambassador to Israel. Investigation into Hurricane Helene bias at FEMA. Massive CNN layoffs? Likely next Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, verbally destroys Hamas. Libs attack Dem Rep. Moulton for speaking truth on trans issue. Yellowstone and The Penguin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Alex Berenson
going to join us momentarily. Let me hit you with
a bunch of different stories that have broken in the
last forty five minutes or so. Former Arkansas Governor Mike
Huckabee nominated by Donald Trump to be the next US
ambassador to Israel. Very good choice there. I believe the
(00:23):
Attorney General of Florida, Ashley Moody, has opened an investigation
into FEMA employees potentially bypassing people with Trump signs or
Trump flags in the wake of Hurricane Helene. That is
obviously an awful story that at least one individual in
a supervisory role put in writing that is ignore Holmes
(00:47):
with Trump paraphernalia pretty unbelievable. There is also a story
out there that is significant that let's see, hundred undreds
of CNN layoffs are potentially coming that according to the
Daily Mail, citing a Puck story. All of that and
(01:08):
more we bring in now Alex Berenson. Alex, you're a
media guy. You've been in media for a long time.
You used to be at the New York Times. Now
you have a sub stack. You've been on with us
now for years, been doing a great job. You, like me,
have kind of traversed a unique path. You voted for Trump.
We'll get to that in a moment. But what lesson
do you think on a larger scale is out there
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for media in the wake of Trump's triumph, his popular
vote win, even despite CNN, NBCABC, CBS, Washington Post, Fox,
the New York Times largely being propaganda for the Kamala campaign.
Where do we go from here? Again? That CNN story,
(01:52):
hundreds of layoffs coming as their audience is tanking.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I mean I just saw that and as you
were reading the intro, and I have to met I'm smiling.
You know, Brian Stelter and and Oliver Darcy, who are
you know? Oliver left CNN, Brian got fired from CNN
and rehired. They both tried to have me censored three
years ago, because that's what legacy media does to reporters.
It doesn't like it just tosses out, you know, any efforts.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Can I tell you, Alex he started his career with
me at the Blaze. Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, that's fascinating. Well, maybe seeing you know, maybe he'll
wind up back there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, But you know that they can't compete. And you know,
there was a story just before the election where somebody said, well,
you know, just the fact that you know, fifty percent
of the country at a minimum have absolutely tuned out
the you know, the mainstream media and that and that
Joe Rogan by himself is probably more powerful than the
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entire mainstream media. That you guys are probably more powerful
than the Washington Post. Right. That just tells you how
much trust these people have burned in the last you know,
ten years. And honestly, this year's been the worst year yet,
right because because look what happened with Joe Biden. Okay,
look what happened in the spring with Joe Biden. It
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was entirely clear he couldn't function. And there was a
US attorney, one of the few people outside you know,
sort of the Biden administration, outside the cloister, who got
inside just to talk to him for a couple hours,
right to interview him, you know, in the document's case,
and that US attorney in February put out a report
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saying this guy can't really function, right, I mean, that
wasn't the point of the report, but there was a
line in it. A well meaning elderly man with a
poor memory, and the media went crazy trying to discredit
Robert Hurr, that US attorney, and arguing with anybody who
pointed out the videos showing just how clearly senile and
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adam Joe Biden was and saying they were keep up,
they made up this word cheap fake. And people saw
for once, they got to see Joe Biden on June
twenty seventh on his own, not having a teleprompter to
help him, and they saw how messed up he really was.
(04:15):
And I think that was the end. Okay, it started
years and years ago, It got worse with COVID, it
got worse with the failure of the mRNA vaccines, which
they so haven't admitted, but in June it was over.
And listen, obviously, I'm you know, I have self interested
But if I ran The New York Times, I'd be
calling me, okay or Matt Tayibe or Barry White and
saying what you know, like, I'm not asking you to
(04:37):
run my newspaper. I'm not asking you for even for
necessarily for story ideas, But you got to tell me, like,
how did we get so messed up that we can't
even tell the truth about something as basic as the
sinility of the president.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Speaking of telling the truth, Alex, I saw your tweet,
and I'm sure a lot of or I guess we
call them post now, but I still like tweet. I
saw I saw your post on x where you said
and I'm going to paraphrase here, you also included some
information from the autopsy report. Now that we're allowed to
tell the truth again in the media, when do we
(05:12):
get to talk about the fact that George Floyd died
of an overdose? Uh, how did that go for you?
I'm just wondering, like what go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know, so so you know, four years ago, I
would have been, you know, put on my head, would
have been put on a stick, like maybe quite literally. Okay,
Now that got sixty thousand likes, it got three point
six million views. It's sort of back to the COVID
days for me, where I could, you know, like where
I really could feel like, Wow, a lot of people
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are seeing this, and and you know, if they're look,
there are a few people who disagree, and and and
you know, you're entitled to disagree. But like the fact
that I was able to sort of put that out
and get it seen and all it, frankly, is the
autopsy report itself. It was striking to me. The other
thing that was striking to me about putting that out
(06:01):
is you guys probably had seen that and knew that
and knew that, you know, he had such toxic level.
Yeah no, and that amphetamine in his blood.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We talked about it on the show quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But so the mainstream media and the elite media did
such a good job hiding this fact that people I
know who are on the right, okay, smart conservative said
to me, are you sure this is real? Are you
sure you didn't get you know, faked out into putting
up something that's not true. And I said, here's the
link to the you know, the medical examiner's office. Here's
the link that will show you that this is real.
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But people, you know, that's the one thing the media
has left. They can't really they can't only drive news,
but they can hide news. So they've refused to report on,
you know, on my lossuit against the Biden administration, and
people don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, if you remember, there was also in the Trayvon
Martin casey, the photo that everybody thought of when they
thought of Trayvon Martin tended to be him, I believe
where he was twelve years old and so, and to
this day, I still have people that say, oh, well,
George Zimmerman, he was that guy was just a kid.
I mean, Treyvon was I think he was eighteen, and
he was six feet tall, one hundred and eighty five pounds.
(07:11):
I mean he was a full grown man bashing this
guy in the face. Now I'm not, you know, some
big fan of George Zimmerman or anything. I mean, he's
had a bad stuff that's happened with that guy. But
they also changed the audio you remember of Zimmerman calling
into the police. Someone actually got fired for that. But
the media constructed this entire narrative around Trayvon Martin that
was able to endure despite the fact that, no, he
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was not twelve when he jumped on Georg Zimmerman. The
other one is the photo that people most people think
of with Mike Brown is his graduation photo, right, And
this is another thing where you say, okay, well, Mikes, yes,
he was a three hundred pounds man when he was
charging the police officer.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But I'm just.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Bringing up incidents where the media.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Has effectively rewritten the history and it's a lot of
the time it's on these issues of BLM or least
violence and and your willingness to talk about this issue again,
when do we get to discuss did Derek Chauvin get
a fair trial?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You can make it. You can make the case that
you know, maybe he's guilty of manslaughter, maybe he you know,
maybe uh, you know, maybe he committed assault, right like,
But but that man's in jail essentially for the rest
of his life, twenty two and a half to life,
and you know he's already faced one assault in prison.
I mean, I did you know the second post that
I put up after the first ones, I thought we
outlawed human sacrifice, right like, like Derek Chiuvin definitely didn't
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get which would you know, the trial we would all
hope to get and and and and you know that
was in large part because people, I think pretty much
knew that if he were acquitted, there were going to
be war riots. And that's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He was He was effectively handed over to the mob.
It was mob justice, even though the state did it.
And this is why I want to ask you about
Daniel Penny. I can tell you know There's been some
New York Post reporters who have been in that courtroom,
you know, sharing what they're seeing and observing. There are
you know, activists in that courtroom, shouting and screaming and calling.
You know, they've made this a cause for the anti
(09:10):
police sort of NGO apparatus. And I'm sitting here, I'm
going and there's a lot of references in the transcript
to Daniel Penny that seemed to me to be intentionally inflammatory.
Is he getting a fair trial?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is anyone going to talk about this?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, I've only seen what you've seen. It's funny.
You're making me wish that I'd gone down there and
sat in myself. I mean, I've seen the references the
white guy, the white man. Yeah, without without you know,
actually reading the transcript, like you know, I will withhold judgment.
But I think you're raising a good question.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Alex, you voted for Trump. I don't think you voted
for Trump in twenty or at least publicly didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I know you didn't vote for him in twenty or sixteen.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I did not twenty or sixteen. What has the reaction
been for you for voting for Trump? For the first
time in twenty four. First part, second part. I've met
a lot of people who have come up to me
and said, what you have met You're a political path.
Didn't vote Trump sixteen, didn't vote twenty The math seems
to suggest that there are millions of those people nationwide
(10:16):
based on the popular vote. What has the reaction been
to you since you announced you were voting Trump in
twenty four and what finally put you over to make
that choice different than you did in sixteen and twenty.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, you know, some of my mother, who is a
big MSNBC viewer, is very mad at me, you know.
Aside from that, I mean, you know, and I've gotten,
you know, a few ataboys from people who are readers
of my substack. Obviously my substack runs conservative. You know,
some of those people said, well, why didn't you do
it in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen? You know, you're
(10:53):
two lates. Well, you know, I made my own decision,
and I got there my own way. You know, I
would say, what what got me over the edge? Believe
it or not? And I've been very close. Uh, but
you know, I did have I did have concerns about
especially about his his sort of unwillingness to say, look,
(11:16):
if I lose, I'm going to acknowledge that I lost.
I didn't like that, okay, But I'd say two things.
When I actually thought about the Biden administration and what
they did to me, right that they censored me, how
could how could I not you know, vote for the
other side under those circumstances. And you know, and people
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people had on the left had been hysterical all about
Donald Trump now for almost ten years, and and you know,
saying he's going to be a fascist, He's going to
be a fascist. And his first term he was not
a fascist. Okay, you can say a lot of things
about him, but he wasn't enough leeritarian and he wasn't
a fascist. So I finally just sort of got tired
of being lectured to by all those folks. And I'll
(12:00):
say one more thing. I was in Iraq in two
thousand and three and two thousand and four for the
New York Times. I saw us prosecute that war. I
saw it go badly. Okay. I don't like Dick Chene.
I don't like the Chenie, the idea that Kamala Harris
thought it was a good idea thought that people like
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me in the middle, really in the middle, we're going
to be convinced by by Liz Cheney isn't seen. It's
such bad judgment that it almost sort of is disqualifying.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, the fact that they wrapped their arms in a
big hug around Liz Cheney at the very end was
pretty amazing. I think a defining moment for the campaign.
Welle thing I want to ask you, Alex. We only
got about a minute and a half left, but just
want to put this out there. Trump new administration, big
win mandate, perhaps all these things going on. I'm not
done with the COVID maning acts. I mean, we're gonna
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have somebody here in charge of you know, NIH, We're
gonna have somebody knew in charge of CDC. How could
we I'm not saying like like public guitar and feather,
like that's a medieval thing. We don't do that anymore,
but like, how could we get some accountability for this?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Great question, So, and I know what I'm much sim
I'll say two things. Hopefully they open the books and
answer reveal partly, you know, I'd like that for myself
in my lawsuit, right, But but I think it'd be
really good to open the books and see what CDC knew,
what they were in the FDA, what they were talking
to the companies about in twenty twenty one in the
summer as the vaccines were failing, really failing for the
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first time, because there's information that hasn't come out. The
second thing, and this is this is both about the
COVID vaccines, but all vaccines. I'm a very big fan
of this. I'm going to keep writing about it. So
there are two products you can't sue over in the
United States. One is social media. You basically can't sue
them for any reason, and the other are vaccines, not
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other drugs. If something goes wrong and you take a drug,
you can sue company. But if it's a vaccine, if
it's called a vaccine, if it's an mr Anda vaccine,
you basically can't sue. And you know, it's funny, like
I'm such a Republican, I'm joking. I really believe like
in our tort system right, Like it's really important, and
(14:18):
the fact that the Democrats want and have given vaccine
companies immunity is crazy and that needs to go away.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I agree totally agree. All right, well, can you keep
coming on here. We're gonna keep banging this drum on
all these issues and just drop like massive truth bonds
from thirty thousand feet because as you see, the people respond,
people like the truth. And now because of Elon, at
least on X and on your substack, which people should
go subscribe to unreported truths, you can get it out there.
So Alex, it's been quite a journey. Thanks for being
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with us.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I will come on.
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Speaker 1 (18:43):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I wanted to play
a couple of cuts for you. First of all, reports
out there that Marco Rubio is going to be Secretary
of State. This guy would be an absolute hawk on
a ran on check on Cuba, but also on Israel's
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right to defend itself.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Uh center.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Marco Rubio oh was confronted in the halls of Congress
and asked about whether he was concerned about too many
casualties for Hamas. This is what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I want you guys to get this.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I want them to destroy every element of Hamas they
can get their hands on.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
These people are viscious animals who did horrifying crimes.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I hope you guys post that.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What about the civilians?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Every day Amasa stopped hiding behind civilians, putting civilians in
the way.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Hamas knew that this was going to lead to this.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Hamas has stopped building their military installations underneath hospital.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you don't fifteen thousand, you don't care about the
babies that are every day.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I think it's terrible, and I think Amas is one
hundred percent to blame.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So that is Rubio steadfast. That was from December of
twenty three, again not official, but reports that Rubio is
going to be choice for Secretary of State Florida senator.
That would give Ron DeSantis, for those of you who
are big DeSantis fans, an opportunity to appoint someone to
serve out the rest of or the next couple of
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years of Marco Rubio's term. We'll see what ends up
happening there. I also buck one of the big questions
to me as we await the final tally, but know
that Donald Trump has won the electoral College with three
hundred and twelve votes, is now comfortably going to win
the popular vote as well, is would there be rational
Democrats who stand up and say, hey, maybe we need
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to look in the mirror. Some of the things that
we argued for are absurd. One of them, I'll give
him credit. Democrat Congressman Seth Moulton said, hey, we've got
to stop with trying to argue that men pretending to
be women should be able to compete in women's championships.
He's being lacerated by the left. He went on MSNBC
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and this is what he had to say about that.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I heard from a.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Number of people within the Biden administration, other foreign policy leaders,
who also all sort of said with almost in one
voice quote it could have been worse. In terms of
the Rubio pick, that he is a senator, he does
have some national security credentials, he has been a believer
in NATO. Now, of course he's going to serve with
the pleasure as a president, He's going to carry out
Trump's agenda, but he's at least something of a reassuring figure. Also,
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it's just who doesn't get that job, the Rick Grenell's,
the cash hotels of the world, who you know, the
real firebrands of the right of mago world, who there
was real concern might be put in the foggy bottom post.
At least for this, there's a sense that the Rubio
pick is a signal that there might be at least
some grown ups in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right, that is not what I called for, but
that is more of the analysis of the Rubio decision.
In the event that that becomes the finality. I was
talking about cut fifteen year and cut sixteen Seth Moulton
being ripped to shreds for saying something really quite clear
that is not controversial for eighty or ninety percent of Americans.
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Let's start with cut fifteen.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
When people like this and our party try to cancel
me or whoever else they're also talking down, they're canceling
the views of a vast majority of Americans. And so
how on earth are we going to win elections if
that's our approach, that we just want to preach down
to people and tell them that they're morally wrong if
they don't meet some strict ideological purity tests.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He continued with more Cut sixteen.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
The founders of this crazy concept called freedom of speech,
and we Democrats would do well to remember that foundational
American value, because if we can't talk about these tough issues,
we're never going to win on them. And guess what,
you know who's going to get hurt the most. It's
trans kids, it's minorities across America. We're going to be
attacked by this eightful Trump agenda. And if we don't
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have a rational response, then rope Republicans are just going
to carry the day. That's what Harris's problem was. She
didn't have a response to this issue because she was
so afraid to even raise it, and as a result,
Trump pressure on it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because Trump's right sometimes bucked. There are right and wrong issues.
The fact that seth Moulton tiptoeing up to hey, maybe
dudes shouldn't be able to win women's championships is causing
explosive criticism for him from the left in this country.
It ties in. I think I was telling you off air.
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Nate Silver, who we had on earlier, is a data
stattician guy from the left. But he said when he
would share his forecast, Republicans would say, okay, it's a
fifty to fifty election. I like this data element, I
agree with this, disagree with that. They would have a conversation.
He said, anytime he said something other than Kamala Harris
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is going to win comfortably, Democrats would lose their mind.
Their cult and the woke mind virus, as Elon has
called it, has deeply infected huge percentages of their cult
fan base and their cult voting block to an extent,
that even a Democrat congressman just trying a bare semblance
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of common sense is being universally attacked on the left
for not bowing down to the cult's belief that men
can become women.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
This is going to continue to be a huge problem
for them. I think at the national level, they they
cannot win on this issue with the country as it
is now. They may think that they are able to
change the country, and I think that's certainly what the
extreme Democrats believe on this issue, or the extreme left
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believes on this issue, but they simply cannot win right
now with the country as it is. And the fact
that after this kind of an election, they would all
you know, it's interesting me people say this, and they'll
attack you online and you'll hear from but nobody will
go on TV to defend this position against somebody of
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you know, relatively equal standing on whether it's media or
in politics, right you, you won't have There is not
a single Democrat who will go on TV and debate
the issue. They'll talk to people about it, they'll talk
to like a CNN propagandist about it, but they will
not openly debate the issue of whether or not boys
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have an advantage over girls.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Talk about how crazy that is. They won't even allow
the conversation to occur. And we played that audio even
on CNN. When the conversation happened, it was immediately derided
as hate language, and they tried to shout down the
very argument that this is absurd and buck this is
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an eighty twenty issue. The fact that Kamala has never
been asked that question, the fact that Biden has never
been asked that question, is proof that we live in
a fundamentally artificial media age. Because if the media's job
is to ask questions that people care about, how in
the world has that question never been asked. I mean,
OutKick asked that question of Don Staley, the University of
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South Carolina women's basketball coach. She said men should be
able to play on women's teams, which I think is crazy,
but at least she answered it. The other fifteen Sweet
sixteen coaches wouldn't even respond to our question. I mean,
this is not a healthy democracy when that many people
are terrified to tell you something that they all know
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is wrong. Right, anybody who's ever played sports knows that
the idea of men being able to play women's sports
is fundamentally wrong, just like me playing Little League would
be wrong, like it violates the very essence of competition.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's insane. This is not I don't disagree with them.
I think people that think otherwise are living in a
in a delusion. They're they're they're disconnected from reality that
what they're saying is absurd. It is, it is up
and down. They just demand that you celebrate falsehood with this,
and I think that everybody should see this for what
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it is.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It is.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Unfortunately, there's some deep ideological reasons why this is so
important to the left, but it is unfortunately the case that, uh,
they're going to continue on with this because there's a
whole there is a whole apparatus of pushing this of NGOs.
You know, imagine also Clay, all of the people who
(27:38):
have been convinced, whether they're medical personnel or parents convinced
bimedical personnel to let's say, trans their children through sterilization,
drugs and even possibly surgery top surgery, things like that.
And this is why Elon Musk became so red pilled.
So many people aren't going to ever want to accept
(27:59):
that they have been a part of something that irrevocably
hurts children. We have hurt children in ways far more
severe than any of them are going to ever want
to own up to. And that's the challenge that you
have with this, is that you have a sort of
built in base of people that will believe to the
(28:19):
very end. You got to give puberty blockers to thirteen
year olds who are a little confused about their place
in the world because medicine.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It's insane, all of that. I tweeted this earlier Buck
because the story came out. At least fourteen thousand children
have had their ovaries, their penises, their breast or had
those removed or been surgically or chemically castrated in America
in the past five years. Fourteen thousand kids. These are miners.
(28:50):
All of the people lecturing you that you are on
the wrong side of history and that they're on the
right side of history have been chemically castrating children and
genitally mutilating them. That's their argument. I can't believe we're here,
but that is the reality of what we are facing,
and still so many refuse to acknowledge that reality. I
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Off closing up shop on Clay and Buck for the day.
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Mary Catherine Ham is a show now with Carol, and
We're going to keep on looking here at the new
picks as they come across, as they come up on
the radar recognition. I think that so far, so far,
(31:00):
it's very strong. You know, not most of them are
ones that I probably would have made myself, or been
close to making myself. But all of them I think
are within the realm of what you would expect for
a very serious and focused Trump team. So I'm really
enthusiastic about that, looking forward to the possibilities here, Clay
(31:21):
and I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna
be a good thing. By the way, you watched the
new episode I did of Yellowstone, So now we can
talk about it, Carrie and I watched it. The first
five minutes just felt absolutely bizarre. There's no spoilers here, Okay,
if you haven't seen it yet, too well, I mean
there are spoilers, but I'm saying, like, too bad. Kevin
(31:41):
Costner really thought he had something better to do than
this show? Is that what it came down to. That
seems so strange to me.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I can't believe. And I don't know how many of
you out there watch Yellowstone. It's the most popular television
show in America. I think I told you that you
should watch it years ago on this show Buck And
so they've had a multi year hiatus while they've been
fighting over whether Kevin Costner was going to come back
or not, and ultimately he just refused to come back,
(32:09):
so they had to write him off. And I just look,
he put in the time and effort on that show.
Why not close it out in a way where the
people who've invested in that show are going to really
appreciate the work that he put in, Right Like, I
what better thing is he making? And I can't imagine
(32:31):
that there's not a dollar figure they could have reached
an agreement on does that make sense? Like at some
point it would be like if you watch the Avengers movies,
if Robert Downey Junior was just like, yeah, I'm not
going to play Iron Man anymore. Well, there's got to
be a dollar figure where you can come to an agreement,
because people who've invested in that show and it's been
(32:54):
very successful want to find a way to finish it successfully.
And I think it just it undercuts everything massively the
way that that final episode's playing out right now. I
watched it last night. I was excited to watch it.
I've been waiting for several years. I really liked the show.
I think Taylor Sheridan's done a great job with that one.
There's a new one with Billy Bob Thornton about Texas
(33:16):
Oil that looks frankly incredible. It's got Billy Bob Thornton,
John Hamm, and another famous, super incredible actress in it.
I can't remember who it was. But I need a
new show to watch. With the election now being done
and with football season moving towards the close for the spring,
(33:36):
I'm ready for a couple of new shows to be
able to kick back and watch.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I could definitely use a new show these days. I'm
I'm kind I've kind of run dry on that, so
I'm hopeful that something really good comes up. I don't
know the Yellowstone, it might have jumped the shark a
little bit here for me though, the whole like faked
suicide thing, and it's getting a little crazy, and I
just didn't I think Kevin Coster bailed out to make
(34:02):
some movies that have done really poorly. Is that right.
I don't even know what they are, but he did some.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think that's correct. And look, I mean, Kevin Costner
is incredibly talented. He made that show with his portrayal
of John Dutton. By the way, one bit of information
that's out there that is starting to circulate, I'm seeing
it Tulsey Gabbard potentially as Defense Secretary Buck Washington Post
recorders now kicking it around, so we'll see whether that
(34:29):
has legitimacy or not. Also, I don't think we mentioned it,
but that stupid Manhattan case is the felony convictions. There's
a refusal to rule on whether it should be tossed
or not. So all this is is the Trump law
fair and everything else is also continuing so far, even
(34:49):
with the chaos.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, so I'm looking at good picks so far, and
I like to see the trajector the Trump administration, well,
the traject of the transition as the Trump administration is
still forming. But I gotta say I think we're in
I think we're in good shape here. The biggest challenge
is going to be I think, no question about it. Well,
(35:12):
as biggest question is going to be the deportation issue
and securing the border. Penguin. I just realized I've started
with Penguin now carry and I watched it with her dad.
It's not a superhero show on HBO. It's like a
mafia crime show where the penguin is a character. Does
that make sense? There is no You don't even see
(35:34):
the Batman in it. So far, it's been pretty good.
I mean it's almost like the Sopranos, but the guy
walks kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is that Colin Farrell playing the ps It's.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Colin Farrell with a lot of costume makeup and you know,
a fat suit on. Yes, that's what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I've heard. I think I read about that. I haven't
seen it at all. We'll have some fun tomorrow. By
the way, Buck, let's do this tomorrow. Now the phones
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(36:11):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Alex Berenson
going to join us momentarily. Let me hit you with
a bunch of different stories that have broken in the
last forty five minutes or so. Former Arkansas Governor Mike
Huckabee nominated by Donald Trump to be the next US
ambassador to Israel. Very good choice there. I believe the
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Attorney General of Florida, Ashley Moody, has opened an investigation
into FEMA employees potentially bypassing people with Trump signs or
Trump flags in the wake of Hurricane Helene. That is
obviously an awful story that at least one individual in
a supervisory role put in writing that is ignore Holmes
(00:47):
with Trump paraphernalia pretty unbelievable. There is also a story
out there that is significant that let's see, hundred undreds
of CNN layoffs are potentially coming that according to the
Daily Mail, citing a Puck story. All of that and
(01:08):
more we bring in now Alex Berenson. Alex, you're a
media guy. You've been in media for a long time.
You used to be at the New York Times. Now
you have a sub stack. You've been on with us
now for years, been doing a great job. You, like me,
have kind of traversed a unique path. You voted for Trump.
We'll get to that in a moment. But what lesson
do you think on a larger scale is out there
(01:31):
for media in the wake of Trump's triumph, his popular
vote win, even despite CNN, NBCABC, CBS, Washington Post, Fox,
the New York Times largely being propaganda for the Kamala campaign.
Where do we go from here? Again? That CNN story,
(01:52):
hundreds of layoffs coming as their audience is tanking.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I mean I just saw that and as you
were reading the intro, and I have to met I'm smiling.
You know, Brian Stelter and and Oliver Darcy, who are
you know? Oliver left CNN, Brian got fired from CNN
and rehired. They both tried to have me censored three
years ago, because that's what legacy media does to reporters.
It doesn't like it just tosses out, you know, any efforts.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Can I tell you, Alex he started his career with
me at the Blaze. Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, that's fascinating. Well, maybe seeing you know, maybe he'll
wind up back there.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, But you know that they can't compete. And you know,
there was a story just before the election where somebody said, well,
you know, just the fact that you know, fifty percent
of the country at a minimum have absolutely tuned out
the you know, the mainstream media and that and that
Joe Rogan by himself is probably more powerful than the
(02:52):
entire mainstream media. That you guys are probably more powerful
than the Washington Post. Right. That just tells you how
much trust these people have burned in the last you know,
ten years. And honestly, this year's been the worst year yet,
right because because look what happened with Joe Biden. Okay,
look what happened in the spring with Joe Biden. It
(03:12):
was entirely clear he couldn't function. And there was a
US attorney, one of the few people outside you know,
sort of the Biden administration, outside the cloister, who got
inside just to talk to him for a couple hours,
right to interview him, you know, in the document's case,
and that US attorney in February put out a report
(03:33):
saying this guy can't really function, right, I mean, that
wasn't the point of the report, but there was a
line in it. A well meaning elderly man with a
poor memory, and the media went crazy trying to discredit
Robert Hurr, that US attorney, and arguing with anybody who
pointed out the videos showing just how clearly senile and
(03:54):
adam Joe Biden was and saying they were keep up,
they made up this word cheap fake. And people saw
for once, they got to see Joe Biden on June
twenty seventh on his own, not having a teleprompter to
help him, and they saw how messed up he really was.
(04:15):
And I think that was the end. Okay, it started
years and years ago, It got worse with COVID, it
got worse with the failure of the mRNA vaccines, which
they so haven't admitted, but in June it was over.
And listen, obviously, I'm you know, I have self interested
But if I ran The New York Times, I'd be
calling me, okay or Matt Tayibe or Barry White and
saying what you know, like, I'm not asking you to
(04:37):
run my newspaper. I'm not asking you for even for
necessarily for story ideas, But you got to tell me, like,
how did we get so messed up that we can't
even tell the truth about something as basic as the
sinility of the president.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Speaking of telling the truth, Alex, I saw your tweet,
and I'm sure a lot of or I guess we
call them post now, but I still like tweet. I
saw I saw your post on x where you said
and I'm going to paraphrase here, you also included some
information from the autopsy report. Now that we're allowed to
tell the truth again in the media, when do we
(05:12):
get to talk about the fact that George Floyd died
of an overdose? Uh, how did that go for you?
I'm just wondering, like what go ahead?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know, so so you know, four years ago, I
would have been, you know, put on my head, would
have been put on a stick, like maybe quite literally. Okay,
Now that got sixty thousand likes, it got three point
six million views. It's sort of back to the COVID
days for me, where I could, you know, like where
I really could feel like, Wow, a lot of people
(05:41):
are seeing this, and and you know, if they're look,
there are a few people who disagree, and and and
you know, you're entitled to disagree. But like the fact
that I was able to sort of put that out
and get it seen and all it, frankly, is the
autopsy report itself. It was striking to me. The other
thing that was striking to me about putting that out
(06:01):
is you guys probably had seen that and knew that
and knew that, you know, he had such toxic level.
Yeah no, and that amphetamine in his blood.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We talked about it on the show quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But so the mainstream media and the elite media did
such a good job hiding this fact that people I
know who are on the right, okay, smart conservative said
to me, are you sure this is real? Are you
sure you didn't get you know, faked out into putting
up something that's not true. And I said, here's the
link to the you know, the medical examiner's office. Here's
the link that will show you that this is real.
(06:34):
But people, you know, that's the one thing the media
has left. They can't really they can't only drive news,
but they can hide news. So they've refused to report on,
you know, on my lossuit against the Biden administration, and
people don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, if you remember, there was also in the Trayvon
Martin casey, the photo that everybody thought of when they
thought of Trayvon Martin tended to be him, I believe
where he was twelve years old and so, and to
this day, I still have people that say, oh, well,
George Zimmerman, he was that guy was just a kid.
I mean, Treyvon was I think he was eighteen, and
he was six feet tall, one hundred and eighty five pounds.
(07:11):
I mean he was a full grown man bashing this
guy in the face. Now I'm not, you know, some
big fan of George Zimmerman or anything. I mean, he's
had a bad stuff that's happened with that guy. But
they also changed the audio you remember of Zimmerman calling
into the police. Someone actually got fired for that. But
the media constructed this entire narrative around Trayvon Martin that
was able to endure despite the fact that, no, he
(07:33):
was not twelve when he jumped on Georg Zimmerman. The
other one is the photo that people most people think
of with Mike Brown is his graduation photo, right, And
this is another thing where you say, okay, well, Mikes, yes,
he was a three hundred pounds man when he was
charging the police officer.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But I'm just.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Bringing up incidents where the media.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Has effectively rewritten the history and it's a lot of
the time it's on these issues of BLM or least
violence and and your willingness to talk about this issue again,
when do we get to discuss did Derek Chauvin get
a fair trial?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You can make it. You can make the case that
you know, maybe he's guilty of manslaughter, maybe he you know,
maybe uh, you know, maybe he committed assault, right like,
But but that man's in jail essentially for the rest
of his life, twenty two and a half to life,
and you know he's already faced one assault in prison.
I mean, I did you know the second post that
I put up after the first ones, I thought we
outlawed human sacrifice, right like, like Derek Chiuvin definitely didn't
(08:35):
get which would you know, the trial we would all
hope to get and and and and you know that
was in large part because people, I think pretty much
knew that if he were acquitted, there were going to
be war riots. And that's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
He was He was effectively handed over to the mob.
It was mob justice, even though the state did it.
And this is why I want to ask you about
Daniel Penny. I can tell you know There's been some
New York Post reporters who have been in that courtroom,
you know, sharing what they're seeing and observing. There are
you know, activists in that courtroom, shouting and screaming and calling.
You know, they've made this a cause for the anti
(09:10):
police sort of NGO apparatus. And I'm sitting here, I'm
going and there's a lot of references in the transcript
to Daniel Penny that seemed to me to be intentionally inflammatory.
Is he getting a fair trial?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is anyone going to talk about this?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, I've only seen what you've seen. It's funny.
You're making me wish that I'd gone down there and
sat in myself. I mean, I've seen the references the
white guy, the white man. Yeah, without without you know,
actually reading the transcript, like you know, I will withhold judgment.
But I think you're raising a good question.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Alex, you voted for Trump. I don't think you voted
for Trump in twenty or at least publicly didn't say it.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I know you didn't vote for him in twenty or sixteen.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I did not twenty or sixteen. What has the reaction
been for you for voting for Trump? For the first
time in twenty four. First part, second part. I've met
a lot of people who have come up to me
and said, what you have met You're a political path.
Didn't vote Trump sixteen, didn't vote twenty The math seems
to suggest that there are millions of those people nationwide
(10:16):
based on the popular vote. What has the reaction been
to you since you announced you were voting Trump in
twenty four and what finally put you over to make
that choice different than you did in sixteen and twenty.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, you know, some of my mother, who is a
big MSNBC viewer, is very mad at me, you know.
Aside from that, I mean, you know, and I've gotten,
you know, a few ataboys from people who are readers
of my substack. Obviously my substack runs conservative. You know,
some of those people said, well, why didn't you do
it in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen? You know, you're
(10:53):
two lates. Well, you know, I made my own decision,
and I got there my own way. You know, I
would say, what what got me over the edge? Believe
it or not? And I've been very close. Uh, but
you know, I did have I did have concerns about
especially about his his sort of unwillingness to say, look,
(11:16):
if I lose, I'm going to acknowledge that I lost.
I didn't like that, okay, But I'd say two things.
When I actually thought about the Biden administration and what
they did to me, right that they censored me, how
could how could I not you know, vote for the
other side under those circumstances. And you know, and people
(11:37):
people had on the left had been hysterical all about
Donald Trump now for almost ten years, and and you know,
saying he's going to be a fascist, He's going to
be a fascist. And his first term he was not
a fascist. Okay, you can say a lot of things
about him, but he wasn't enough leeritarian and he wasn't
a fascist. So I finally just sort of got tired
of being lectured to by all those folks. And I'll
(12:00):
say one more thing. I was in Iraq in two
thousand and three and two thousand and four for the
New York Times. I saw us prosecute that war. I
saw it go badly. Okay. I don't like Dick Chene.
I don't like the Chenie, the idea that Kamala Harris
thought it was a good idea thought that people like
(12:22):
me in the middle, really in the middle, we're going
to be convinced by by Liz Cheney isn't seen. It's
such bad judgment that it almost sort of is disqualifying.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, the fact that they wrapped their arms in a
big hug around Liz Cheney at the very end was
pretty amazing. I think a defining moment for the campaign.
Welle thing I want to ask you, Alex. We only
got about a minute and a half left, but just
want to put this out there. Trump new administration, big
win mandate, perhaps all these things going on. I'm not
done with the COVID maning acts. I mean, we're gonna
(12:56):
have somebody here in charge of you know, NIH, We're
gonna have somebody knew in charge of CDC. How could
we I'm not saying like like public guitar and feather,
like that's a medieval thing. We don't do that anymore,
but like, how could we get some accountability for this?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Great question, So, and I know what I'm much sim
I'll say two things. Hopefully they open the books and
answer reveal partly, you know, I'd like that for myself
in my lawsuit, right, But but I think it'd be
really good to open the books and see what CDC knew,
what they were in the FDA, what they were talking
to the companies about in twenty twenty one in the
summer as the vaccines were failing, really failing for the
(13:36):
first time, because there's information that hasn't come out. The
second thing, and this is this is both about the
COVID vaccines, but all vaccines. I'm a very big fan
of this. I'm going to keep writing about it. So
there are two products you can't sue over in the
United States. One is social media. You basically can't sue
them for any reason, and the other are vaccines, not
(13:57):
other drugs. If something goes wrong and you take a drug,
you can sue company. But if it's a vaccine, if
it's called a vaccine, if it's an mr Anda vaccine,
you basically can't sue. And you know, it's funny, like
I'm such a Republican, I'm joking. I really believe like
in our tort system right, Like it's really important, and
(14:18):
the fact that the Democrats want and have given vaccine
companies immunity is crazy and that needs to go away.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I agree totally agree. All right, well, can you keep
coming on here. We're gonna keep banging this drum on
all these issues and just drop like massive truth bonds
from thirty thousand feet because as you see, the people respond,
people like the truth. And now because of Elon, at
least on X and on your substack, which people should
go subscribe to unreported truths, you can get it out there.
So Alex, it's been quite a journey. Thanks for being
(14:48):
with us.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I will come on.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
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One thing I want to throw in there, Claiy, because
our caller we talked about the Senate, the loss of
people who are senators. There you have governors. I think
it's different in a few states, but there you have
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It is a special election that's different. You gotta hold
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Speaker 1 (18:43):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I wanted to play
a couple of cuts for you. First of all, reports
out there that Marco Rubio is going to be Secretary
of State. This guy would be an absolute hawk on
a ran on check on Cuba, but also on Israel's
(19:03):
right to defend itself.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Uh center.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Marco Rubio oh was confronted in the halls of Congress
and asked about whether he was concerned about too many
casualties for Hamas. This is what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I want you guys to get this.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I want them to destroy every element of Hamas they
can get their hands on.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
These people are viscious animals who did horrifying crimes.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I hope you guys post that.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
What about the civilians?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Every day Amasa stopped hiding behind civilians, putting civilians in
the way.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Hamas knew that this was going to lead to this.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Hamas has stopped building their military installations underneath hospital.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you don't fifteen thousand, you don't care about the
babies that are every day.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I think it's terrible, and I think Amas is one
hundred percent to blame.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So that is Rubio steadfast. That was from December of
twenty three, again not official, but reports that Rubio is
going to be choice for Secretary of State Florida senator.
That would give Ron DeSantis, for those of you who
are big DeSantis fans, an opportunity to appoint someone to
serve out the rest of or the next couple of
(20:13):
years of Marco Rubio's term. We'll see what ends up
happening there. I also buck one of the big questions
to me as we await the final tally, but know
that Donald Trump has won the electoral College with three
hundred and twelve votes, is now comfortably going to win
the popular vote as well, is would there be rational
Democrats who stand up and say, hey, maybe we need
(20:36):
to look in the mirror. Some of the things that
we argued for are absurd. One of them, I'll give
him credit. Democrat Congressman Seth Moulton said, hey, we've got
to stop with trying to argue that men pretending to
be women should be able to compete in women's championships.
He's being lacerated by the left. He went on MSNBC
(21:00):
and this is what he had to say about that.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I heard from a.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Number of people within the Biden administration, other foreign policy leaders,
who also all sort of said with almost in one
voice quote it could have been worse. In terms of
the Rubio pick, that he is a senator, he does
have some national security credentials, he has been a believer
in NATO. Now, of course he's going to serve with
the pleasure as a president, He's going to carry out
Trump's agenda, but he's at least something of a reassuring figure. Also,
(21:30):
it's just who doesn't get that job, the Rick Grenell's,
the cash hotels of the world, who you know, the
real firebrands of the right of mago world, who there
was real concern might be put in the foggy bottom post.
At least for this, there's a sense that the Rubio
pick is a signal that there might be at least
some grown ups in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right, that is not what I called for, but
that is more of the analysis of the Rubio decision.
In the event that that becomes the finality. I was
talking about cut fifteen year and cut sixteen Seth Moulton
being ripped to shreds for saying something really quite clear
that is not controversial for eighty or ninety percent of Americans.
(22:11):
Let's start with cut fifteen.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
When people like this and our party try to cancel
me or whoever else they're also talking down, they're canceling
the views of a vast majority of Americans. And so
how on earth are we going to win elections if
that's our approach, that we just want to preach down
to people and tell them that they're morally wrong if
they don't meet some strict ideological purity tests.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
He continued with more Cut sixteen.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
The founders of this crazy concept called freedom of speech,
and we Democrats would do well to remember that foundational
American value, because if we can't talk about these tough issues,
we're never going to win on them. And guess what,
you know who's going to get hurt the most. It's
trans kids, it's minorities across America. We're going to be
attacked by this eightful Trump agenda. And if we don't
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have a rational response, then rope Republicans are just going
to carry the day. That's what Harris's problem was. She
didn't have a response to this issue because she was
so afraid to even raise it, and as a result,
Trump pressure on it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Because Trump's right sometimes bucked. There are right and wrong issues.
The fact that seth Moulton tiptoeing up to hey, maybe
dudes shouldn't be able to win women's championships is causing
explosive criticism for him from the left in this country.
It ties in. I think I was telling you off air.
(23:34):
Nate Silver, who we had on earlier, is a data
stattician guy from the left. But he said when he
would share his forecast, Republicans would say, okay, it's a
fifty to fifty election. I like this data element, I
agree with this, disagree with that. They would have a conversation.
He said, anytime he said something other than Kamala Harris
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is going to win comfortably, Democrats would lose their mind.
Their cult and the woke mind virus, as Elon has
called it, has deeply infected huge percentages of their cult
fan base and their cult voting block to an extent,
that even a Democrat congressman just trying a bare semblance
(24:16):
of common sense is being universally attacked on the left
for not bowing down to the cult's belief that men
can become women.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
This is going to continue to be a huge problem
for them. I think at the national level, they they
cannot win on this issue with the country as it
is now. They may think that they are able to
change the country, and I think that's certainly what the
extreme Democrats believe on this issue, or the extreme left
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believes on this issue, but they simply cannot win right
now with the country as it is. And the fact
that after this kind of an election, they would all
you know, it's interesting me people say this, and they'll
attack you online and you'll hear from but nobody will
go on TV to defend this position against somebody of
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you know, relatively equal standing on whether it's media or
in politics, right you, you won't have There is not
a single Democrat who will go on TV and debate
the issue. They'll talk to people about it, they'll talk
to like a CNN propagandist about it, but they will
not openly debate the issue of whether or not boys
(25:34):
have an advantage over girls.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Talk about how crazy that is. They won't even allow
the conversation to occur. And we played that audio even
on CNN. When the conversation happened, it was immediately derided
as hate language, and they tried to shout down the
very argument that this is absurd and buck this is
(25:55):
an eighty twenty issue. The fact that Kamala has never
been asked that question, the fact that Biden has never
been asked that question, is proof that we live in
a fundamentally artificial media age. Because if the media's job
is to ask questions that people care about, how in
the world has that question never been asked. I mean,
OutKick asked that question of Don Staley, the University of
(26:19):
South Carolina women's basketball coach. She said men should be
able to play on women's teams, which I think is crazy,
but at least she answered it. The other fifteen Sweet
sixteen coaches wouldn't even respond to our question. I mean,
this is not a healthy democracy when that many people
are terrified to tell you something that they all know
(26:42):
is wrong. Right, anybody who's ever played sports knows that
the idea of men being able to play women's sports
is fundamentally wrong, just like me playing Little League would
be wrong, like it violates the very essence of competition.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's insane. This is not I don't disagree with them.
I think people that think otherwise are living in a
in a delusion. They're they're they're disconnected from reality that
what they're saying is absurd. It is, it is up
and down. They just demand that you celebrate falsehood with this,
and I think that everybody should see this for what
(27:17):
it is.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It is.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Unfortunately, there's some deep ideological reasons why this is so
important to the left, but it is unfortunately the case that, uh,
they're going to continue on with this because there's a
whole there is a whole apparatus of pushing this of NGOs.
You know, imagine also Clay, all of the people who
(27:38):
have been convinced, whether they're medical personnel or parents convinced
bimedical personnel to let's say, trans their children through sterilization,
drugs and even possibly surgery top surgery, things like that.
And this is why Elon Musk became so red pilled.
So many people aren't going to ever want to accept
(27:59):
that they have been a part of something that irrevocably
hurts children. We have hurt children in ways far more
severe than any of them are going to ever want
to own up to. And that's the challenge that you
have with this, is that you have a sort of
built in base of people that will believe to the
(28:19):
very end. You got to give puberty blockers to thirteen
year olds who are a little confused about their place
in the world because medicine.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
It's insane, all of that. I tweeted this earlier Buck
because the story came out. At least fourteen thousand children
have had their ovaries, their penises, their breast or had
those removed or been surgically or chemically castrated in America
in the past five years. Fourteen thousand kids. These are miners.
(28:50):
All of the people lecturing you that you are on
the wrong side of history and that they're on the
right side of history have been chemically castrating children and
genitally mutilating them. That's their argument. I can't believe we're here,
but that is the reality of what we are facing,
and still so many refuse to acknowledge that reality. I
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Speaker 3 (30:18):
Off closing up shop on Clay and Buck for the day.
Appreciate you all so much. Being with us is always
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We're going to keep on looking here at the new
picks as they come across, as they come up on
the radar recognition. I think that so far, so far,
(31:00):
it's very strong. You know, not most of them are
ones that I probably would have made myself, or been
close to making myself. But all of them I think
are within the realm of what you would expect for
a very serious and focused Trump team. So I'm really
enthusiastic about that, looking forward to the possibilities here, Clay
(31:21):
and I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna
be a good thing. By the way, you watched the
new episode I did of Yellowstone, So now we can
talk about it, Carrie and I watched it. The first
five minutes just felt absolutely bizarre. There's no spoilers here, Okay,
if you haven't seen it yet, too well, I mean
there are spoilers, but I'm saying, like, too bad. Kevin
(31:41):
Costner really thought he had something better to do than
this show? Is that what it came down to. That
seems so strange to me.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I can't believe. And I don't know how many of
you out there watch Yellowstone. It's the most popular television
show in America. I think I told you that you
should watch it years ago on this show Buck And
so they've had a multi year hiatus while they've been
fighting over whether Kevin Costner was going to come back
or not, and ultimately he just refused to come back,
(32:09):
so they had to write him off. And I just look,
he put in the time and effort on that show.
Why not close it out in a way where the
people who've invested in that show are going to really
appreciate the work that he put in, Right Like, I
what better thing is he making? And I can't imagine
(32:31):
that there's not a dollar figure they could have reached
an agreement on does that make sense? Like at some
point it would be like if you watch the Avengers movies,
if Robert Downey Junior was just like, yeah, I'm not
going to play Iron Man anymore. Well, there's got to
be a dollar figure where you can come to an agreement,
because people who've invested in that show and it's been
(32:54):
very successful want to find a way to finish it successfully.
And I think it just it undercuts everything massively the
way that that final episode's playing out right now. I
watched it last night. I was excited to watch it.
I've been waiting for several years. I really liked the show.
I think Taylor Sheridan's done a great job with that one.
There's a new one with Billy Bob Thornton about Texas
(33:16):
Oil that looks frankly incredible. It's got Billy Bob Thornton,
John Hamm, and another famous, super incredible actress in it.
I can't remember who it was. But I need a
new show to watch. With the election now being done
and with football season moving towards the close for the spring,
(33:36):
I'm ready for a couple of new shows to be
able to kick back and watch.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I could definitely use a new show these days. I'm
I'm kind I've kind of run dry on that, so
I'm hopeful that something really good comes up. I don't
know the Yellowstone, it might have jumped the shark a
little bit here for me though, the whole like faked
suicide thing, and it's getting a little crazy, and I
just didn't I think Kevin Coster bailed out to make
(34:02):
some movies that have done really poorly. Is that right.
I don't even know what they are, but he did some.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I think that's correct. And look, I mean, Kevin Costner
is incredibly talented. He made that show with his portrayal
of John Dutton. By the way, one bit of information
that's out there that is starting to circulate, I'm seeing
it Tulsey Gabbard potentially as Defense Secretary Buck Washington Post
recorders now kicking it around, so we'll see whether that
(34:29):
has legitimacy or not. Also, I don't think we mentioned it,
but that stupid Manhattan case is the felony convictions. There's
a refusal to rule on whether it should be tossed
or not. So all this is is the Trump law
fair and everything else is also continuing so far, even
(34:49):
with the chaos.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, so I'm looking at good picks so far, and
I like to see the trajector the Trump administration, well,
the traject of the transition as the Trump administration is
still forming. But I gotta say I think we're in
I think we're in good shape here. The biggest challenge
is going to be I think, no question about it. Well,
(35:12):
as biggest question is going to be the deportation issue
and securing the border. Penguin. I just realized I've started
with Penguin now carry and I watched it with her dad.
It's not a superhero show on HBO. It's like a
mafia crime show where the penguin is a character. Does
that make sense? There is no You don't even see
(35:34):
the Batman in it. So far, it's been pretty good.
I mean it's almost like the Sopranos, but the guy
walks kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is that Colin Farrell playing the ps It's.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Colin Farrell with a lot of costume makeup and you know,
a fat suit on. Yes, that's what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I've heard. I think I read about that. I haven't
seen it at all. We'll have some fun tomorrow. By
the way, Buck, let's do this tomorrow. Now the phones
are back up and running preview. You can also go
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that you were not voting for Trump and you actually did,
(36:11):
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We'll have some fun with that tomorrow. You can also
send in messages to us through the iHeart app. We'll
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for hanging with us.
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