July 10, 2023 • 36 mins
Actor Actor Jim Caviezel, star of the hit movie “Sound of Freedom”, joined Clay and Buck to explain why he’s so passionate about the phenomenal success of this film. Newsom says he watches Fox News every night. Clay thinks Newsom will be the Democrat nominee in 2024. The newest OutKick contributor Riley Gaines joins C&B to update her on the crusade to prevent men from destroying women's sports. C&B's favorite ice cream flavors. Ben & Jerry's HQ on native American land?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show
Monday edition. Encourage you to go download the iHeartRadio app
make sure that you don't miss a moment of this
show anywhere in the country. When welcome again our new
affiliate in Washington, d C one oh four point seven
Freedom one oh four point seven. That is a fantastic,
(00:26):
absolutely fantastic addition to this show, and we're joined now.
It's a great movie that's out. It's having a tremendous
amount of success. Some of you may have already seen it.
If not, you may have well heard about it. If
you have not, you're going to hear this discussion about
it here. Jim Cavizl who was the star in Passion
of the Christ. He is also a star in Sound
of Freedom, and Jim, we appreciate you taking the time
(00:48):
to hang out with us. I know you were on
with Rush years ago when the Passion of the Christ
came out, and many of our listeners may well remember
hearing you twenty some odd years ago with Rush as
you discussed the success of that movie. And now you're
back with us again. You got another movie that's dominating.
Tell us what it's about, why you think it's having success,
(01:08):
and why you'd encourage people listening to go check it out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I play a man named Tim Ballard, a former Homeland
security man that goes down to the border of Collexico,
California and takes down one of the worst pedophiles traffickers
they've ever seen. He rescues this little boy, a little
boy says, where you find my sister, and he essentially
sells everything to go and look for this little girl.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Jim, it's Buck. Thanks so much for being with us
this movie. I mean, we see this where something that
has a theme, a traditional theme of just good versus
in this case, pure evil, does so well at the
box office, and.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
There are all these reviews and.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
People writing about it saying, oh, well, this is a
surprise that this kind of independent film. Why do you
think this is resonating so much with people?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Has a lot to do with in a nutshell, with
our republic that's collapsing right now, if we can hurt
little children and let them die and be slaughtered, and
I mean there's plenty of facts here too, and the
you know, these media that claimed fact checkers who the
(02:28):
public is waking up, they're now asking who are your
fact checkers? Because I love for them to cross examine
with Tim Ballard and many of these agents. They don't
know who they're talking about, and they won't even go
to the border. And when you look at a country
that's losing doesn't have a south border. Are we a
country we're celebrating the fourth of July. We don't have
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a south border. We are not a sovereign nation. What
is going on? That's what the American public is looking at.
And the facts are there. They have done plenty, plenty
of stuff research, but you never see these people that
read from their papers. They're probably getting from the Pentagon
to actually go down there and do their own research,
(03:09):
like people like Lara Logan that actually go into war zones.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Jim, what do you attribute the overall success of this movie?
Because I know you're probably, like Buck and myself an
old school movie buff, and you remember when Indiana Jones
was out in the Temple of Doom and Raiders of
the Lost Ark and everything else. Your movie is going
head to head now and winning in many markets against
the fifth Indiana Jones movie. With all of the marketing power,
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all of the dollars that Disney can pour into a
franchise of that magnitude, What does the success of your
movie say about the desperate demand for stories such as
these to be told.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, last year they did a movie on the
Top Gun and Tom Cruise didn't go into all of
the bus that they wanted to make his film, uh
in the and taken away from the original Top Gun.
People went there and they watched, They had an experience.
(04:11):
They they loved the flight, areos and stuff. They loved
that it was Americans, and they loved their country. And
we have a we have a republic, life, liberty and
the pursuit of happiness. And and so we have gone
so far left and had people shove their you know,
(04:31):
LGBTQ flag up into our face. We've millions of Christians
they are saying, this is sick, this is not what
we want. So I made a movie. It's the truth
about what's going on. It's current. You know, if if
they had have made Schindler's List during the time of
when it was happening, think about that, it would have
(04:52):
been what what that had had would have been. It'd
saved millions of lives. And so this is poking right
out the dragon, the al, the three letter agencies, all
of them, because you can't tell me that eighty five
thousand children can come across the border and disappear like
Miss Rhodeoff's April twenty sixth testimony told us that eighty
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five thousand children have vanished. And then you have all
these articles coming out and ripping the film. Why what's
wrong with being an anti trafficking film and an anti
pedal film. Brother, look at the laws that they're trying
to pass now. And so Americans are fed up. They're
sick and tired of you taking our beer. It's not
(05:40):
our beer anymore. We're not drinking buddy light. We're not
going to target anymore, and we're not going to ped
pedal land anymore. And all of these other conglomerates that
want to get involved in this, Americans have drawn drawn
the line, and the line is our children, and you
can't f with our children. Trying to be polite here,
(06:00):
but you cannot mess with our children because God's children
are not for sale. And Americans still appreciate one nation
under God.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know, Jim, I know you're playing in this film
The Sound of Freedom, which we recommend everybody see out there,
and it's doing very well, which is encouraging on a
number of levels that a film like this would have
the reception that it has had. You play Tim Ballard
or your character Jim is based on Tim Ballard. I'm
sure you've had lots of conversations with him about what
(06:34):
could we begin to do here to confront the scale
of this problem. I mean, as I said in the beginning,
I don't know if there's anything that could be considered
a more absolute evil than the trafficking of children. And
you're putting numbers out there, you're raising awareness about this
with the movie. What would be some of the steps?
(06:56):
I mean, a lot of people out there are thinking,
how do we start to I know, so it's a
massive problem, it's a global problem.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Well what does it look like to try to.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Begin to fight back against this effectively and save these kids?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, right now, there's a message that I give at
the end of the film. It's a powerful message. But
right now what's happening is is that when we first
went to sell this film, we had to go through
social media. Nobody would listen to us and we were
a voice in the desert crying out and eventually the
(07:31):
public started coming. And now they're starting to come. I mean,
this is just starting. What they're doing is Angel has this.
They're the ones that promote the film and Angel has
this pay it Forward program, curiously enough a film I did,
but it's a pay it forward program that help people
they're economically stuck right now to see this film. And
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they go to the movie, they get free tickets, and
so the word is spreading because people are able to
see the film because a lot of people under this
crazy administration, they can't afford it. So they've made it affordable.
Nobody's ever done this before. Angel did this the Harmon Brothers,
and so the first thing is getting people to see
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it so that individual can afford a ticket buyers it.
Maybe he goes in and he has ten tickets that
he you know, for his friends, and him may go
and watch it, and then they go tell ten twenty
thirty people. And that's what's happening. Now. We had gone
to Congress and ask them, hey, we got to get
this stuff going on with the border here, and they've
kind of have done. Had I thought they were going
(08:38):
to do something they didn't. You know what, nothing is
going to happen unless the people unite and say enough,
and this is by the people for the people. This
is not a government. The government doesn't run us, and
that's what they've been doing. And now we're all pulling
together right now. We're all dangerous to them. But we
(08:59):
know we're public. We know we're not a democracy. We
know we are a republic because you can't vote somebody's
inalienable rights away under a republic. Life comes before liberty,
life comes before happiness because without you your life, you
have no liberty, you have no happiness. And so by
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the People for the people is happening right now. And
we're going to constitutional full across the board and we're
going to become a sovereign nation again very soon. And
we're uniting around this because you can't because again my
character says over and over again, God's children are not
for sale. And when God tells you to do something,
(09:40):
you don't hesitate. That's the American way.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Jim, you're obviously very passionate. That's fueled so much of
your success as an actor. We're talking to Jim Caviezel.
I know there's a talk, and I'm curious what the
update is on this. A lot of our listeners watch
The Passion of the Christ, the movie that you started
that Mel Gibson produced. I know that there's talk of
the Passion of the Christ or resurrection, and so I
got a couple of things here.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
What can you tell us about that movie?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And when you make a movie like Sound of Freedom,
how much of the Hollywood audience actually does respond to
the movie like this, even if they don't don't do
so publicly. In other words, how much of an underground
is there in Hollywood where people who work on the
movies both actors, but you know, behind the scenes people
(10:27):
actually are big proponents of their faith and supportive of
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, they're there, they're underground, and they're there in the
agencies as well. They're good, good, good Americans are fighting,
but the guys that are in charge are the ones
that are destroying our republic. We did The Passion of
the Christ twenty years ago, came out in two thousand
(10:55):
and four. We filmed it in two thousand and two,
and I got to go through a huge experience on
that movie. When the moment I took that movie I
was told by many not to do this film, and
I said, why, It's in the Gospels. It's in the Bible.
You know, we put our hand on the Bible one
week swear. You know, you go into court here and
(11:17):
you put your hand on the Bible. And this version
of it is the one we did right from that,
and I was incredibly attacked by the media. So that
was before fake news. Okay, when Trump came in and
started talking about fake news, nobody knew it was fake news.
(11:37):
Now we all know it's fake news. And they're struggling
with the narrative. And the narrative back then was to
take away our foundation of one nation under God. That's
what they chipped away. And when we came in with
that film, you know, this film did remarkably well. But
the Passion came in five days. This was six almost
(11:59):
seven days. That was five days at one hundred and
thirty nine million dollars at seven dollars a ticket back then,
you know, and the public spoke out and said this
is our film. After that happened, I couldn't get a job.
Why the film did over a billion dollars worth of business,
and they were like, no, no, not unless you work
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on our terms. I was given a gift. It came
from God Almighty, and it's not my gift, it's his.
That's the difference between me and other artists. I didn't
give myself a gift, but I'll put my gift up
against anybody in the world because it's his. And so
I had a responsibility to do my job and and
(12:44):
fight for Americans in films. You know, I was inspired
by Jimmy Stewart when I was around Jimmy Stewart and
he told me, jim make good movies.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So I did.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I made the thin red line, and I was moving
up the rocket chain right here in this industry. But
always the intention to inspire people to find moral redemption
in stories, and the industry has been hijacked from us,
the people, American people. And so they're crying out in
(13:13):
this film right now. They're watching because this is current.
As I said it, Schindler's List had been made during
the time of Auschwitz, it could have prevented a lot
of wickedness that would happened under the Nazis and also
what happened under the Soviet Union. Their crimes to date
are just unprecedented, but we have a lot of these
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things going around right now, and that children. There are
more slaves right now of children right now in this
world than all slavery when it was legal in history.
That's what you find out in this film.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The film is the sound of freedom. I know a
lot of you have seen it, a lot more of
you will see it. Jim, thank you so much for
being with us here sharing your story, and we wish
you continue. You'd luck both in this film and on
future films.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I would like to thank all Americans, all Americans out there.
And I've said this before when Ronald Reagan said it
many years from his a time for choosing that you
and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for
our children this the last best hope of men on earth,
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will sentence them to take the last step in two
one thousand years of darkness. My brothers and sisters, and
the words of Reagan, remember, evil is powerless if the
good or unafraid God bless you.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Thank you, jem Man.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Fantastic interview there will react to it. Also, we're going
to talk with Riley Gain's. Third hour of the program underway,
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Speaker 5 (15:35):
All right, welcome back to team.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Really scurring stuff from Jim Cabezel about the Sound of Freedom.
I'm going to be seeing that movie this week, is
the plan, so I hope a lot of you will
go check it out. On a very different topic here, Clay,
your buddy's at it again. I Gavin Newsome. Now here's
(15:58):
the thing. He's out there everybody he watches Fox a lot.
I'm just gonna put this out there. Who is Gavin's
favorite Fox News talking ahead? Maybe somebody who I don't
know also covers a wide variety of things like sports.
Perhaps somebody who thinks that Gavin might even run as
the Democrat nominee.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm just throwing it out there here.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
He is telling everybody he obsessively watches Fox News play eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Do you occasionally turn on Fox at the time and
see what happens?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Just to see not occasionally every night every night?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
And do you think Democrats should still be appearing on
Fox or should they not be?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
A parent?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It contributes to the mental health crisis in the state.
So on the basis of one's own personal conditions.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would not recommend it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
My staff is quite literally tried to.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Have interventions with me about it. They say, I'm too
obsessed with it, but I need to understand it.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
You want to know what the other side thinks.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I don't want to know what they think.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I want to see the patterns, and what you see
are patterns that emerged.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I don't know, man, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I think he finishes up every night with a glass
of pino noir watching Fox. He's probably watching Hannity. He
sees Clay Travis go on there, and he's just like
that guy. Clay makes a lot of sense, you gotta say.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I initially he was making jokes about the fact that,
you know, Gavin and I were gonna have a nice
pino noir and have a nice chat looking out over
the son Noma Valley somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I actually think we might end up doing it. Well,
take a picture.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's gonna it's gonna break your it's gonna break your
Twitter feedbuck when Gavin and I are having a glass
of wine discussing all the issues going on the country.
In all honesty, though he's going to be the nominee
in twenty four, I really do think that he's going
to be the Democrat that they put forward in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Bold talk, mister Clay Travis, the kind of talk that
gets Gavin Newsom glued to the TV screen when he's
watching it night.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think he's also gonna be way tougher to beat
than Joe Biden, honestly, which is scary.
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Speaker 2 (18:57):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
We've got a loaded show for you.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Florida Governor Rod DeSantis last hour, as well as you
just heard at the beginning of this hour Jim cavizl
He was both of those guests fantastic. I know that
our next guest is also going to be fantastic. She
is Riley Gaines. I am excited to announce that OutKick
has hired her to be doing a podcast all about
defending women's sports, and Riley, We're excited to have you,
(19:25):
and I've got a quote for you. The timing is unbelievable.
On this Meghan Rapino is announced that she is retiring.
The US Women's World Cup is just about to start
in Australia and New Zealand, and in an interview in
Time magazine, Riley, I don't even know if you've seen
these quotes yet. I'm going to read them for you.
(19:46):
She was asked Meghan Rapino was would you welcome a
trans athlete? Rapino said, absolutely, You're taking a real woman's place.
That's the part of the argument that's still extremely transphobic.
I see trans women as real women. What you're saying
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automatically in the argument you're sort of telling on yourself
already is you don't believe these people are women, therefore
they're taking the other spot. I don't feel that way,
and she said later, oh, now we care about fairness,
Now we care about women's sports. That's total bull. You
know what comes after and show me all the trans
(20:29):
people who are nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports.
It's just not happening. Repino said, what would you say
in response?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Riley, Look, I mean this is the most I mean,
this is predictable. To be honest, we could have imagined
that she would have said absolutely, of course she did
when she just announced her career was over. Had Megan
Rappino been asked this question in the height of her
career try and actually trying to advance to the height
of her career, she would not have have the same opinions.
(21:01):
And it's easy to understand why. Is because a man
could easily take her place easily. And in regards to
how this is telling on yourselves, that goes, I mean
that goes more our way than anything. Because at our
national championships they had to change the rules to the
locker room to allow a man into our locker room.
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They had to say, oh, well, we got around this
by making the locker room's unisex. That right there is
admitting that it's not a woman. It's a full admittance.
These organizations who are buying into this, they know what's wrong.
They know it's unfair, and Megan Rappino is virtue signaling,
which is not a surprise to anyone.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You know, what do you think in Riley it's buck
What do you think the response should be to this,
because we know it's only a matter.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Of time before you do have a.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Male to female transition who is trying to play at
a high level of women's soccer. You came up against
this in swimming, It's happened elsewhere. Do you think that
the female players should just refuse to play? I mean,
this is often something that comes up. What's the proper
response given that this is just going to continue?
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know, for the longest time, I rejected the notion
of boycott. I thought women shouldn't have to compromise anything.
There's no sacrifice that we should make. But now let
me tell you, as I see more and more girls
get injured, I see more and more girls lose out
on opportunities, more and more girls exploited in a locker room.
Boycotting is the answer. That's how this is going, that's
(22:37):
how we're effectively going to make change. I thought legislation
would be the way forward, but really the turning point
for me and embracing a boycott is when this got
introduced on the House at the federal level. By it
wrote Representative Greg's duby, the Protection of Women and Girls
in Sports Act, and all Democrats, every single one of them,
all two hundred and three, voted in opposition.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Of protecting Women and Girls in Sports.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
And that's when I realized, if we wait for legislation
to make changes, it's too far gone. Too many women
will have lost out. Too many women again will be
have their rights to privacy entirely violated and be potentially
injured in their sports. So I most certainly am advocating
and calling for a boycott, not just from women.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I think men could boycott too. Men need to make
a statement.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I think that's a powerful way to show that this
is something that affects everyone and that everyone has had enough.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You shared a story over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I think it was that I couldn't believe it was real,
and I want you to fill in for people out
there who may not have heard about it. There was
a sixteen year old girl who objected to a biological
man pretending to be a woman using a YMCA. I
believe I've got this correct locker room. What happened to her?
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What is this story for people who.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Have not heard it?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So I've talked to this family.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
The story is every single day after their practice, at
the same time, a man would be undressing in their
locker room. And these girls, of course, they felt uncomfortable
by this, and so they went to their coach immediately
and said, hey, you know, there's a man in our
locker room every single day. Can you do something about it?
And he assured them, you know, of course I'll do something.
But it continued to happen every single day, and so
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these girls they met together, they took it upon themselves
to do something, and so they got together they wrote
little posters and on these posters, which were eventually deemed
as hate speech, they wrote, protect women's sports.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
They wrote, you know, women's space.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Only certain things like that, nothing even about trans individuals.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Just so it was a pro woman message.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
And they put these posters up in the locker room,
and that next day of practice, their coach pulls them
together and says who did this? And the one girl
steps forward and she said, well, I was a part
in it. And he said, you're off the team immediately,
and you're kicked off out of the YMCA.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And so she was banned from.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
The one for opposing a male who is undressing to be.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
In their locker room.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I want to emphasize this again because am I correct Riley.
This is a sixteen year old girl, a minor, and
her teammates are also miners, and she this girl bore
the consequences for saying, hey, there shouldn't be a man
changing in our locker room. Who's arguing that he's a woman.
She was the one who had to bear the consequences.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You're right, that's exactly right, and it's crazy, and I
think to make matters even worse, Not only did these
parents have to deal with this with this daughter, their
older daughter.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Her name is Caitlin Wheeler.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
She was on my team at University of Kentucky and
we were training partners and she's one of my best friends,
and she dealt with this when competing and changing in
a locker room with Leah Thomas. And so now these
poor parents have dealt with this from two of their daughters.
Yet it people continually push the argument, it's not really happening.
You know, it's not really a big deal. It's not happening.
(26:05):
It is happening. It happened to this family twice. One
of the young track and field girls out in California
who competed against the boy. Her older sister competed against
Leah Thomas as well. These are two families who have
been impacted in two entirely different situations, but in the
same way.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Riley, you may have seen this.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It's not quite sports, but it is a competition that
the Miss Netherlands competition was, which is a feeder to
the Miss Universe competition was one. This is a female
beauty pageant. It was one by a transgender man or
(26:43):
transgender woman. Is this the next thing we should expect
where trans like women's pageants and other things also are
now going to be one by men.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Look, there's a realm of things we can expect this,
not just beauty pageants, but prisons in women's shelters and sororities.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
And notice this is only going one way.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
It is always narcissistic, entitled men entering in the women's division.
We don't see women going in men's bathrooms, we don't
see women going into men's prisons. And it's because these
men are on power trips. And look, I have no
animosity towards let's say Leah Thomas for example. Look, La
Thomas was following the rules. It's the rules that need
(27:31):
to change that allowed this, because what message are these
rules sending? And I can tell you from my experience
the message I got, and it's that I don't matter
that we as women, as girls, as female athletes. We
didn't matter our privacy, our safety, our fairness, our self,
perception of ourselves, our mental health, our dignity.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I mean, the list goes on. None of that matters.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
What matters to these, to corporate America, to academia, to
the media, to actually the Biden administration who was leading
this country.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
What matters to them is catering to the radical.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Minority, with us as women being collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think the answer is Riley, that as part of
your OutKick podcast, you'd be very happy to talk to
somebody like Megan Rapino. So when Meghan Rapino says it's
total bs, show me all the trans people who are
nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports. It's just
not happening for people out there who may not have
heard your story. Riley can tell us about what the
podcast is going to do, but legitimately the reason that
(28:31):
you are talking to us is because a man ended
up winning a women's in Cuba championship and you competed
against that man identifying as a woman, and so you
were planning on being I believe a vet like you
would be in veterinary school right now, but for the
fact that this competitive situation directly happened in in Cuba
(28:55):
women's championship sports.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
You're exactly right. And this is never something I wanted
for myself. This is never something I felt equipped for.
I mean, heck, I still don't feel equipped for what
I'm doing, but I know what's at stake if I
don't do it. And to answer your question, I would
love to have Megan Repino on your podcast. Actually consider
this an official invite, Meghan Rapino. I would love it
if you joined the New Games for Girls podcasts where
(29:19):
we can have an open dialogue about the issue of
men competing in women's sports, and Nancy Armor, consider this
your open invitation as well. This is the woman who
deemed Sam Ponder as a bigot for believing in biology,
and she claims that I am some right wing grifter
who's just trying to climb the ladder off of tyme
against Leah Thomas. No, Nancy, I would love to have
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a conversation with you. This is definitely a space where
I hope to spread awareness and ultimately, more than anything,
spread the truth.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Well, congratulations on OutKick. I hear the guy who found
that he's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
He's okay, Yeah, And you're launching a podcast. When does
that start?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I actually just film my first episode. I think the
plan is for it to come out on Wednesday, so we'll.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
See Riley gains. Everybody go find her.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I would kill it, buck, and I bet you're gonna
find out that all the people who disagree with her,
when offered an open form to come and explain their
audience and their opinion, they'll run and hide.
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They won't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I've never seen somebody thank you, Riley, thanks so much
for being with us. I've never seen somebody try to
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podcasts and that are doing like the streaming video game
stuff and that are really cool and hip. Whenever this
comes up, they'll say, it's not really an issue. Why
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gonna talk Ben and Jerry's here before we do this.
(33:44):
Let's let's do it. Your favorite I may judge you
as a communist based on this answer. Your favorite flavor
of ice cream period, not even Ben and Jerry's, just
in general, what's your so first place?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I haven't been eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream ever
because this was not a thing in the South, at
least I remember as a even before I knew that
they were super woke. But I made the decision years
ago when they did the Colin Kaepernick flavor, I was like,
these guys are chumps.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like, did you grow up calling soda pop? Is that
a Nashville so.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
We called everything coke pop is a bad West? Crazy
pop is the Midwest. If you were my age growing
up in the South, you would say, they would like, hey,
if you they walked up to you at a restaurant and
be like, hey, what do you want to drink? You
would say maybe a coke and they'd say, okay, what
type of coke? So you might be like, I order
a coke and then I would like a blowing people's
(34:34):
minds here or not from the South mellow yallow, which
was the competitor of Mountain dew from the coke perspective,
but yeah, everything was a coke because Coke was founded
in Atlanta. Coke owned the South back in the day.
So if you were ordering SODA's. East Coast pop was
Midwest everything's a coke in the South. I don't know
if that's still the case, but that was the air
in which I grew up. I am now and this,
(34:57):
this flavor did not exist when I was a kid.
I order one of two things. One is the chocolate
chip cookie dough. I think cookie dough ice cream is
a home run or this flavor did exist. I go
mint chocolate chip probably most frequently. My selected ice cream
choice is mint chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You what about you. I'm a pistachio guy. I like it.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I really had diva taste and ice cream. I like
a pistachio. You know, it's just that green. That green
color gets me excited. I do like mint chocolate chip
very much, though I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
I can't. I cannot tell a lie.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
My parents love strawberry ice cream, which I still can't.
I'm not a strawberry ice cream person. I don't know
why that's considered a top three ice cream flavor, but
it is chocolate, vanilla strawberry. My friend I was always
also a Sherbert guy, which is how we pronounced sorbet.
In the South, you would get I would get an
orange Sherbert. Back when I was a kid, learned a
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lot about the South. Well, Ben and Jerry's why we
bring it up? They said that Independence Day we should
think about all the stolen in indigenous land. Turns out
Clay that a Indigenous chief in Vermont has come out
to say that Ben and Jerry's headquarters is specifically on
land stolen.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
From the.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Kusuk Abenaki Nation.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Will Ben and Jerry's give back the land their headquarters
is on, I'm gonna guess probably not.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
One of our writers at out Kickbuck has requested official
comment from Ben and Jerry's on when they will be
removing themselves from their corporate headquarters and returning the land
to the Native American population in Vermont. So far, shocker,
they have not yet responded on when they are going
to give up their land that they stole awfully from
(36:46):
the Native America.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Wopness is like socialism. It's about giving away other people's stuff.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show
Monday edition. Encourage you to go download the iHeartRadio app
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Freedom one oh four point seven. That is a fantastic,
(00:26):
absolutely fantastic addition to this show, and we're joined now.
It's a great movie that's out. It's having a tremendous
amount of success. Some of you may have already seen it.
If not, you may have well heard about it. If
you have not, you're going to hear this discussion about
it here. Jim Cavizl who was the star in Passion
of the Christ. He is also a star in Sound
of Freedom, and Jim, we appreciate you taking the time
(00:48):
to hang out with us. I know you were on
with Rush years ago when the Passion of the Christ
came out, and many of our listeners may well remember
hearing you twenty some odd years ago with Rush as
you discussed the success of that movie. And now you're
back with us again. You got another movie that's dominating.
Tell us what it's about, why you think it's having success,
(01:08):
and why you'd encourage people listening to go check it out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I play a man named Tim Ballard, a former Homeland
security man that goes down to the border of Collexico,
California and takes down one of the worst pedophiles traffickers
they've ever seen. He rescues this little boy, a little
boy says, where you find my sister, and he essentially
sells everything to go and look for this little girl.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Jim, it's Buck. Thanks so much for being with us
this movie. I mean, we see this where something that
has a theme, a traditional theme of just good versus
in this case, pure evil, does so well at the
box office, and.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
There are all these reviews and.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
People writing about it saying, oh, well, this is a
surprise that this kind of independent film. Why do you
think this is resonating so much with people?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Has a lot to do with in a nutshell, with
our republic that's collapsing right now, if we can hurt
little children and let them die and be slaughtered, and
I mean there's plenty of facts here too, and the
you know, these media that claimed fact checkers who the
(02:28):
public is waking up, they're now asking who are your
fact checkers? Because I love for them to cross examine
with Tim Ballard and many of these agents. They don't
know who they're talking about, and they won't even go
to the border. And when you look at a country
that's losing doesn't have a south border. Are we a
country we're celebrating the fourth of July. We don't have
(02:49):
a south border. We are not a sovereign nation. What
is going on? That's what the American public is looking at.
And the facts are there. They have done plenty, plenty
of stuff research, but you never see these people that
read from their papers. They're probably getting from the Pentagon
to actually go down there and do their own research,
(03:09):
like people like Lara Logan that actually go into war zones.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Jim, what do you attribute the overall success of this movie?
Because I know you're probably, like Buck and myself an
old school movie buff, and you remember when Indiana Jones
was out in the Temple of Doom and Raiders of
the Lost Ark and everything else. Your movie is going
head to head now and winning in many markets against
the fifth Indiana Jones movie. With all of the marketing power,
(03:38):
all of the dollars that Disney can pour into a
franchise of that magnitude, What does the success of your
movie say about the desperate demand for stories such as
these to be told.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You know, last year they did a movie on the
Top Gun and Tom Cruise didn't go into all of
the bus that they wanted to make his film, uh
in the and taken away from the original Top Gun.
People went there and they watched, They had an experience.
(04:11):
They they loved the flight, areos and stuff. They loved
that it was Americans, and they loved their country. And
we have a we have a republic, life, liberty and
the pursuit of happiness. And and so we have gone
so far left and had people shove their you know,
(04:31):
LGBTQ flag up into our face. We've millions of Christians
they are saying, this is sick, this is not what
we want. So I made a movie. It's the truth
about what's going on. It's current. You know, if if
they had have made Schindler's List during the time of
when it was happening, think about that, it would have
(04:52):
been what what that had had would have been. It'd
saved millions of lives. And so this is poking right
out the dragon, the al, the three letter agencies, all
of them, because you can't tell me that eighty five
thousand children can come across the border and disappear like
Miss Rhodeoff's April twenty sixth testimony told us that eighty
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five thousand children have vanished. And then you have all
these articles coming out and ripping the film. Why what's
wrong with being an anti trafficking film and an anti
pedal film. Brother, look at the laws that they're trying
to pass now. And so Americans are fed up. They're
sick and tired of you taking our beer. It's not
(05:40):
our beer anymore. We're not drinking buddy light. We're not
going to target anymore, and we're not going to ped
pedal land anymore. And all of these other conglomerates that
want to get involved in this, Americans have drawn drawn
the line, and the line is our children, and you
can't f with our children. Trying to be polite here,
(06:00):
but you cannot mess with our children because God's children
are not for sale. And Americans still appreciate one nation
under God.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You know, Jim, I know you're playing in this film
The Sound of Freedom, which we recommend everybody see out there,
and it's doing very well, which is encouraging on a
number of levels that a film like this would have
the reception that it has had. You play Tim Ballard
or your character Jim is based on Tim Ballard. I'm
sure you've had lots of conversations with him about what
(06:34):
could we begin to do here to confront the scale
of this problem. I mean, as I said in the beginning,
I don't know if there's anything that could be considered
a more absolute evil than the trafficking of children. And
you're putting numbers out there, you're raising awareness about this
with the movie. What would be some of the steps?
(06:56):
I mean, a lot of people out there are thinking,
how do we start to I know, so it's a
massive problem, it's a global problem.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Well what does it look like to try to.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Begin to fight back against this effectively and save these kids?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, right now, there's a message that I give at
the end of the film. It's a powerful message. But
right now what's happening is is that when we first
went to sell this film, we had to go through
social media. Nobody would listen to us and we were
a voice in the desert crying out and eventually the
(07:31):
public started coming. And now they're starting to come. I mean,
this is just starting. What they're doing is Angel has this.
They're the ones that promote the film and Angel has
this pay it Forward program, curiously enough a film I did,
but it's a pay it forward program that help people
they're economically stuck right now to see this film. And
(07:54):
they go to the movie, they get free tickets, and
so the word is spreading because people are able to
see the film because a lot of people under this
crazy administration, they can't afford it. So they've made it affordable.
Nobody's ever done this before. Angel did this the Harmon Brothers,
and so the first thing is getting people to see
(08:16):
it so that individual can afford a ticket buyers it.
Maybe he goes in and he has ten tickets that
he you know, for his friends, and him may go
and watch it, and then they go tell ten twenty
thirty people. And that's what's happening. Now. We had gone
to Congress and ask them, hey, we got to get
this stuff going on with the border here, and they've
kind of have done. Had I thought they were going
(08:38):
to do something they didn't. You know what, nothing is
going to happen unless the people unite and say enough,
and this is by the people for the people. This
is not a government. The government doesn't run us, and
that's what they've been doing. And now we're all pulling
together right now. We're all dangerous to them. But we
(08:59):
know we're public. We know we're not a democracy. We
know we are a republic because you can't vote somebody's
inalienable rights away under a republic. Life comes before liberty,
life comes before happiness because without you your life, you
have no liberty, you have no happiness. And so by
(09:20):
the People for the people is happening right now. And
we're going to constitutional full across the board and we're
going to become a sovereign nation again very soon. And
we're uniting around this because you can't because again my
character says over and over again, God's children are not
for sale. And when God tells you to do something,
(09:40):
you don't hesitate. That's the American way.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Jim, you're obviously very passionate. That's fueled so much of
your success as an actor. We're talking to Jim Caviezel.
I know there's a talk, and I'm curious what the
update is on this. A lot of our listeners watch
The Passion of the Christ, the movie that you started
that Mel Gibson produced. I know that there's talk of
the Passion of the Christ or resurrection, and so I
got a couple of things here.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
What can you tell us about that movie?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And when you make a movie like Sound of Freedom,
how much of the Hollywood audience actually does respond to
the movie like this, even if they don't don't do
so publicly. In other words, how much of an underground
is there in Hollywood where people who work on the
movies both actors, but you know, behind the scenes people
(10:27):
actually are big proponents of their faith and supportive of
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, they're there, they're underground, and they're there in the
agencies as well. They're good, good, good Americans are fighting,
but the guys that are in charge are the ones
that are destroying our republic. We did The Passion of
the Christ twenty years ago, came out in two thousand
(10:55):
and four. We filmed it in two thousand and two,
and I got to go through a huge experience on
that movie. When the moment I took that movie I
was told by many not to do this film, and
I said, why, It's in the Gospels. It's in the Bible.
You know, we put our hand on the Bible one
week swear. You know, you go into court here and
(11:17):
you put your hand on the Bible. And this version
of it is the one we did right from that,
and I was incredibly attacked by the media. So that
was before fake news. Okay, when Trump came in and
started talking about fake news, nobody knew it was fake news.
(11:37):
Now we all know it's fake news. And they're struggling
with the narrative. And the narrative back then was to
take away our foundation of one nation under God. That's
what they chipped away. And when we came in with
that film, you know, this film did remarkably well. But
the Passion came in five days. This was six almost
(11:59):
seven days. That was five days at one hundred and
thirty nine million dollars at seven dollars a ticket back then,
you know, and the public spoke out and said this
is our film. After that happened, I couldn't get a job.
Why the film did over a billion dollars worth of business,
and they were like, no, no, not unless you work
(12:21):
on our terms. I was given a gift. It came
from God Almighty, and it's not my gift, it's his.
That's the difference between me and other artists. I didn't
give myself a gift, but I'll put my gift up
against anybody in the world because it's his. And so
I had a responsibility to do my job and and
(12:44):
fight for Americans in films. You know, I was inspired
by Jimmy Stewart when I was around Jimmy Stewart and
he told me, jim make good movies.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So I did.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I made the thin red line, and I was moving
up the rocket chain right here in this industry. But
always the intention to inspire people to find moral redemption
in stories, and the industry has been hijacked from us,
the people, American people. And so they're crying out in
(13:13):
this film right now. They're watching because this is current.
As I said it, Schindler's List had been made during
the time of Auschwitz, it could have prevented a lot
of wickedness that would happened under the Nazis and also
what happened under the Soviet Union. Their crimes to date
are just unprecedented, but we have a lot of these
(13:35):
things going around right now, and that children. There are
more slaves right now of children right now in this
world than all slavery when it was legal in history.
That's what you find out in this film.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The film is the sound of freedom. I know a
lot of you have seen it, a lot more of
you will see it. Jim, thank you so much for
being with us here sharing your story, and we wish
you continue. You'd luck both in this film and on
future films.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I would like to thank all Americans, all Americans out there.
And I've said this before when Ronald Reagan said it
many years from his a time for choosing that you
and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for
our children this the last best hope of men on earth,
(14:23):
will sentence them to take the last step in two
one thousand years of darkness. My brothers and sisters, and
the words of Reagan, remember, evil is powerless if the
good or unafraid God bless you.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Thank you, jem Man.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Fantastic interview there will react to it. Also, we're going
to talk with Riley Gain's. Third hour of the program underway,
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Speaker 5 (15:35):
All right, welcome back to team.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Really scurring stuff from Jim Cabezel about the Sound of Freedom.
I'm going to be seeing that movie this week, is
the plan, so I hope a lot of you will
go check it out. On a very different topic here, Clay,
your buddy's at it again. I Gavin Newsome. Now here's
(15:58):
the thing. He's out there everybody he watches Fox a lot.
I'm just gonna put this out there. Who is Gavin's
favorite Fox News talking ahead? Maybe somebody who I don't
know also covers a wide variety of things like sports.
Perhaps somebody who thinks that Gavin might even run as
the Democrat nominee.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm just throwing it out there here.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
He is telling everybody he obsessively watches Fox News play eleven.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Do you occasionally turn on Fox at the time and
see what happens?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Just to see not occasionally every night every night?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
And do you think Democrats should still be appearing on
Fox or should they not be?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
A parent?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It contributes to the mental health crisis in the state.
So on the basis of one's own personal conditions.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would not recommend it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
My staff is quite literally tried to.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Have interventions with me about it. They say, I'm too
obsessed with it, but I need to understand it.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
You want to know what the other side thinks.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I don't want to know what they think.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I want to see the patterns, and what you see
are patterns that emerged.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I don't know, man, I think.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I think he finishes up every night with a glass
of pino noir watching Fox. He's probably watching Hannity. He
sees Clay Travis go on there, and he's just like
that guy. Clay makes a lot of sense, you gotta say.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I initially he was making jokes about the fact that,
you know, Gavin and I were gonna have a nice
pino noir and have a nice chat looking out over
the son Noma Valley somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I actually think we might end up doing it. Well,
take a picture.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It's gonna it's gonna break your it's gonna break your
Twitter feedbuck when Gavin and I are having a glass
of wine discussing all the issues going on the country.
In all honesty, though he's going to be the nominee
in twenty four, I really do think that he's going
to be the Democrat that they put forward in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Bold talk, mister Clay Travis, the kind of talk that
gets Gavin Newsom glued to the TV screen when he's
watching it night.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I think he's also gonna be way tougher to beat
than Joe Biden, honestly, which is scary.
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
We've got a loaded show for you.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Florida Governor Rod DeSantis last hour, as well as you
just heard at the beginning of this hour Jim cavizl
He was both of those guests fantastic. I know that
our next guest is also going to be fantastic. She
is Riley Gaines. I am excited to announce that OutKick
has hired her to be doing a podcast all about
defending women's sports, and Riley, We're excited to have you,
(19:25):
and I've got a quote for you. The timing is unbelievable.
On this Meghan Rapino is announced that she is retiring.
The US Women's World Cup is just about to start
in Australia and New Zealand, and in an interview in
Time magazine, Riley, I don't even know if you've seen
these quotes yet. I'm going to read them for you.
(19:46):
She was asked Meghan Rapino was would you welcome a
trans athlete? Rapino said, absolutely, You're taking a real woman's place.
That's the part of the argument that's still extremely transphobic.
I see trans women as real women. What you're saying
(20:07):
automatically in the argument you're sort of telling on yourself
already is you don't believe these people are women, therefore
they're taking the other spot. I don't feel that way,
and she said later, oh, now we care about fairness,
Now we care about women's sports. That's total bull. You
know what comes after and show me all the trans
(20:29):
people who are nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports.
It's just not happening. Repino said, what would you say
in response?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Riley, Look, I mean this is the most I mean,
this is predictable. To be honest, we could have imagined
that she would have said absolutely, of course she did
when she just announced her career was over. Had Megan
Rappino been asked this question in the height of her
career try and actually trying to advance to the height
of her career, she would not have have the same opinions.
(21:01):
And it's easy to understand why. Is because a man
could easily take her place easily. And in regards to
how this is telling on yourselves, that goes, I mean
that goes more our way than anything. Because at our
national championships they had to change the rules to the
locker room to allow a man into our locker room.
(21:23):
They had to say, oh, well, we got around this
by making the locker room's unisex. That right there is
admitting that it's not a woman. It's a full admittance.
These organizations who are buying into this, they know what's wrong.
They know it's unfair, and Megan Rappino is virtue signaling,
which is not a surprise to anyone.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
You know, what do you think in Riley it's buck
What do you think the response should be to this,
because we know it's only a matter.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Of time before you do have a.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Male to female transition who is trying to play at
a high level of women's soccer. You came up against
this in swimming, It's happened elsewhere. Do you think that
the female players should just refuse to play? I mean,
this is often something that comes up. What's the proper
response given that this is just going to continue?
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know, for the longest time, I rejected the notion
of boycott. I thought women shouldn't have to compromise anything.
There's no sacrifice that we should make. But now let
me tell you, as I see more and more girls
get injured, I see more and more girls lose out
on opportunities, more and more girls exploited in a locker room.
Boycotting is the answer. That's how this is going, that's
(22:37):
how we're effectively going to make change. I thought legislation
would be the way forward, but really the turning point
for me and embracing a boycott is when this got
introduced on the House at the federal level. By it
wrote Representative Greg's duby, the Protection of Women and Girls
in Sports Act, and all Democrats, every single one of them,
all two hundred and three, voted in opposition.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Of protecting Women and Girls in Sports.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
And that's when I realized, if we wait for legislation
to make changes, it's too far gone. Too many women
will have lost out. Too many women again will be
have their rights to privacy entirely violated and be potentially
injured in their sports. So I most certainly am advocating
and calling for a boycott, not just from women.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I think men could boycott too. Men need to make
a statement.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I think that's a powerful way to show that this
is something that affects everyone and that everyone has had enough.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You shared a story over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I think it was that I couldn't believe it was real,
and I want you to fill in for people out
there who may not have heard about it. There was
a sixteen year old girl who objected to a biological
man pretending to be a woman using a YMCA. I
believe I've got this correct locker room. What happened to her?
(23:55):
What is this story for people who.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Have not heard it?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
So I've talked to this family.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
The story is every single day after their practice, at
the same time, a man would be undressing in their
locker room. And these girls, of course, they felt uncomfortable
by this, and so they went to their coach immediately
and said, hey, you know, there's a man in our
locker room every single day. Can you do something about it?
And he assured them, you know, of course I'll do something.
But it continued to happen every single day, and so
(24:23):
these girls they met together, they took it upon themselves
to do something, and so they got together they wrote
little posters and on these posters, which were eventually deemed
as hate speech, they wrote, protect women's sports.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
They wrote, you know, women's space.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Only certain things like that, nothing even about trans individuals.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Just so it was a pro woman message.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
And they put these posters up in the locker room,
and that next day of practice, their coach pulls them
together and says who did this? And the one girl
steps forward and she said, well, I was a part
in it. And he said, you're off the team immediately,
and you're kicked off out of the YMCA.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And so she was banned from.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
The one for opposing a male who is undressing to be.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
In their locker room.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I want to emphasize this again because am I correct Riley.
This is a sixteen year old girl, a minor, and
her teammates are also miners, and she this girl bore
the consequences for saying, hey, there shouldn't be a man
changing in our locker room. Who's arguing that he's a woman.
She was the one who had to bear the consequences.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
You're right, that's exactly right, and it's crazy, and I
think to make matters even worse, Not only did these
parents have to deal with this with this daughter, their
older daughter.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
Her name is Caitlin Wheeler.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
She was on my team at University of Kentucky and
we were training partners and she's one of my best friends,
and she dealt with this when competing and changing in
a locker room with Leah Thomas. And so now these
poor parents have dealt with this from two of their daughters.
Yet it people continually push the argument, it's not really happening.
You know, it's not really a big deal. It's not happening.
(26:05):
It is happening. It happened to this family twice. One
of the young track and field girls out in California
who competed against the boy. Her older sister competed against
Leah Thomas as well. These are two families who have
been impacted in two entirely different situations, but in the
same way.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Riley, you may have seen this.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
It's not quite sports, but it is a competition that
the Miss Netherlands competition was, which is a feeder to
the Miss Universe competition was one. This is a female
beauty pageant. It was one by a transgender man or
(26:43):
transgender woman. Is this the next thing we should expect
where trans like women's pageants and other things also are
now going to be one by men.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Look, there's a realm of things we can expect this,
not just beauty pageants, but prisons in women's shelters and sororities.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
And notice this is only going one way.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
It is always narcissistic, entitled men entering in the women's division.
We don't see women going in men's bathrooms, we don't
see women going into men's prisons. And it's because these
men are on power trips. And look, I have no
animosity towards let's say Leah Thomas for example. Look, La
Thomas was following the rules. It's the rules that need
(27:31):
to change that allowed this, because what message are these
rules sending? And I can tell you from my experience
the message I got, and it's that I don't matter
that we as women, as girls, as female athletes. We
didn't matter our privacy, our safety, our fairness, our self,
perception of ourselves, our mental health, our dignity.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
I mean, the list goes on. None of that matters.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
What matters to these, to corporate America, to academia, to
the media, to actually the Biden administration who was leading
this country.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
What matters to them is catering to the radical.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Minority, with us as women being collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think the answer is Riley, that as part of
your OutKick podcast, you'd be very happy to talk to
somebody like Megan Rapino. So when Meghan Rapino says it's
total bs, show me all the trans people who are
nefariously taking advantage of being trans in sports. It's just
not happening for people out there who may not have
heard your story. Riley can tell us about what the
podcast is going to do, but legitimately the reason that
(28:31):
you are talking to us is because a man ended
up winning a women's in Cuba championship and you competed
against that man identifying as a woman, and so you
were planning on being I believe a vet like you
would be in veterinary school right now, but for the
fact that this competitive situation directly happened in in Cuba
(28:55):
women's championship sports.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
You're exactly right. And this is never something I wanted
for myself. This is never something I felt equipped for.
I mean, heck, I still don't feel equipped for what
I'm doing, but I know what's at stake if I
don't do it. And to answer your question, I would
love to have Megan Repino on your podcast. Actually consider
this an official invite, Meghan Rapino. I would love it
if you joined the New Games for Girls podcasts where
(29:19):
we can have an open dialogue about the issue of
men competing in women's sports, and Nancy Armor, consider this
your open invitation as well. This is the woman who
deemed Sam Ponder as a bigot for believing in biology,
and she claims that I am some right wing grifter
who's just trying to climb the ladder off of tyme
against Leah Thomas. No, Nancy, I would love to have
(29:40):
a conversation with you. This is definitely a space where
I hope to spread awareness and ultimately, more than anything,
spread the truth.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Well, congratulations on OutKick. I hear the guy who found
that he's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
He's okay, Yeah, And you're launching a podcast. When does
that start?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I actually just film my first episode. I think the
plan is for it to come out on Wednesday, so we'll.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
See Riley gains. Everybody go find her.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I would kill it, buck, and I bet you're gonna
find out that all the people who disagree with her,
when offered an open form to come and explain their
audience and their opinion, they'll run and hide.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
They won't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I've never seen somebody thank you, Riley, thanks so much
for being with us. I've never seen somebody try to
make a serious and earnest all you get from people
on the left with you know, with audiences that have
podcasts and that are doing like the streaming video game
stuff and that are really cool and hip. Whenever this
comes up, they'll say, it's not really an issue. Why
are you so focused on it. Yeah, that's the best
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(33:44):
Let's let's do it. Your favorite I may judge you
as a communist based on this answer. Your favorite flavor
of ice cream period, not even Ben and Jerry's, just
in general, what's your so first place?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I haven't been eating Ben and Jerry's ice cream ever
because this was not a thing in the South, at
least I remember as a even before I knew that
they were super woke. But I made the decision years
ago when they did the Colin Kaepernick flavor, I was like,
these guys are chumps.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Like, did you grow up calling soda pop? Is that
a Nashville so.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
We called everything coke pop is a bad West? Crazy
pop is the Midwest. If you were my age growing
up in the South, you would say, they would like, hey,
if you they walked up to you at a restaurant and
be like, hey, what do you want to drink? You
would say maybe a coke and they'd say, okay, what
type of coke? So you might be like, I order
a coke and then I would like a blowing people's
(34:34):
minds here or not from the South mellow yallow, which
was the competitor of Mountain dew from the coke perspective,
but yeah, everything was a coke because Coke was founded
in Atlanta. Coke owned the South back in the day.
So if you were ordering SODA's. East Coast pop was
Midwest everything's a coke in the South. I don't know
if that's still the case, but that was the air
in which I grew up. I am now and this,
(34:57):
this flavor did not exist when I was a kid.
I order one of two things. One is the chocolate
chip cookie dough. I think cookie dough ice cream is
a home run or this flavor did exist. I go
mint chocolate chip probably most frequently. My selected ice cream
choice is mint chocolate chip.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
You what about you. I'm a pistachio guy. I like it.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I really had diva taste and ice cream. I like
a pistachio. You know, it's just that green. That green
color gets me excited. I do like mint chocolate chip
very much, though I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
I can't. I cannot tell a lie.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
My parents love strawberry ice cream, which I still can't.
I'm not a strawberry ice cream person. I don't know
why that's considered a top three ice cream flavor, but
it is chocolate, vanilla strawberry. My friend I was always
also a Sherbert guy, which is how we pronounced sorbet.
In the South, you would get I would get an
orange Sherbert. Back when I was a kid, learned a
(35:54):
lot about the South. Well, Ben and Jerry's why we
bring it up? They said that Independence Day we should
think about all the stolen in indigenous land. Turns out
Clay that a Indigenous chief in Vermont has come out
to say that Ben and Jerry's headquarters is specifically on
land stolen.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
From the.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Kusuk Abenaki Nation.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Will Ben and Jerry's give back the land their headquarters
is on, I'm gonna guess probably not.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
One of our writers at out Kickbuck has requested official
comment from Ben and Jerry's on when they will be
removing themselves from their corporate headquarters and returning the land
to the Native American population in Vermont. So far, shocker,
they have not yet responded on when they are going
to give up their land that they stole awfully from
(36:46):
the Native America.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Wopness is like socialism. It's about giving away other people's stuff.
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