The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast

PODCAST SUMMARY HOUR 2: Trump shames Kamala Harris into visiting the border. Flashback to Harris "I haven't been to Europe" moment with Lester Holt. Clay wonders if 2008 Obama could be elected in today's Democrat Party. Buck describes his visit to the border. Bernie Sanders is mad that GOP stopped the Democrat power grab voting bill, unleashes on Manchin and Sinema for saving the filibuster. Buck does his spot-on Bernie impression.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Wednesday edition.
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Encourage you to go
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(00:20):
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(00:41):
been through the roof. I think that's something that we
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(01:02):
appreciate all of you wherever you're listening to us. You
can follow Buck Sexton at buck Sexton, you can follow me.
I am Clay Travis at Clay Travis and of course
the show is on Twitter and Facebook at Clay and Buck.
And one thing I bet that a lot of people
on Twitter and Facebook and certainly many of you listening
out there are ready for is you know what happened

(01:23):
with Kamala Harris buck. She's been saying she didn't need
to go to the border. She hadn't been to Europe either,
But now all of a sudden, Donald Trump is scheduled
to be at the border in five days. And what
has happened, buck Sexton. Oh, she's going, Clay, She's going down.
In fact, Trump effectively shamed the borders are into going

(01:47):
to said border, which is a remarkable thing when you
think about it. Ninety one days friends after she was
named immigrations are she has finally come out or spokes
persons or whatever have said that she will go down
on Friday, just in time to beat former President Trump.
Will be down there in just a few days after

(02:09):
it with Governor Abbot of Texas. And one thing about
about Texas on this one, and yes there's there's going
to be. We don't ever want to make any of
the other states jealous. There's a fair amount of Florida
high fiving on the show. There's also some Texas high
fiving that goes on here because you know, the state
of Texas Clay has decided to take border matters into

(02:29):
its own hands at some level. They are building some
sections of wall themselves. They're bringing in additional law enforcement
officers from Florida among other states to help with the
surge and help with the issues at the border. And
having been down there just a couple of months ago myself,
we were talking about law enforcement being overwhelmed. Border patrol

(02:51):
is completely overwhelmed with let's all be very clear, the
worst numbers of apprehensions and illegal crossings and got aways,
which are people who just made it into the US
never got taken into custy at all. Really ever, it's
at least twenty years, but based on the trends in
the trajectory, you can pretty much say this is the

(03:11):
worst the border has ever been, which is not a
good thing. I think, no matter what your politics might be.
And Kamala Harris, I think this is significant that she's going,
but also don't miss what she's trying to do. Buck
She's going in on a Friday, hoping that her friends
in the media will bury this story. Rolling into a
summer weekend, right, going on Friday, you hope, Hey, Saturday, Sunday,

(03:36):
everybody's going out to the pool, everybody's on vacation, everything else. Well,
this goes to show you that there really was a belief,
I think it in the in the Harris camp, that
she could get away with saying that, you know, it's
not a big deal. Why do I have to go
to the border as the borders are? And then when
all the criticism got piled on and on all the

(03:57):
folks out there, we're saying, hold on a second, and
we should actually play if we if we have it?
It's a classic, the classic do we do we have? Oh? Yes,
here here remember, let's let's play for everybody just to
trip down memory lane with our our our borders are.
Do you have any plans to visit the border at
some point? You know we are going to the border.

(04:19):
We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole,
this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border.
We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border,
and I haven't been to Europe, and I don't understand
the point that you're making. This was one of those
awesome moments where you just this, this is lesser wholt.

(04:39):
I mean, he's you know, he's trying to just do
his interview thing, and he's like, look, you're the vice president.
I'm not trying to cause issues here, but you have
not been to the boarder. You can't look me in
the eyes in an interview on my show when we
all know you. The whole point is you haven't been.
You don't get to say, oh, yes, we have Clay,
we've been to the border. What is we have you,
Kamal err if the borders aren't been to the border.

(05:01):
And what I think is so interesting about Kamala Harris
in general, she's got a Cruella Deville about her personality,
like where she tries to kind of laugh her way
and smile her way through answers to questions like these.
But Buck, she's been in primetime in theory for a

(05:22):
long time. She ran for president. It's a senator from California,
she was an attorney general. She's dealt with the media
for a long time. I think certainly they've used kid
gloves with her, But how is it that she wasn't
prepared for a question like this? I still every time
I hear that, I cringe because it's almost a veep moment.
I think about her staff when they were watching that

(05:45):
and seeing it, and I wonder did they not prep her?
Were they so stunned that lester Holt like, go, Let's
listen to that clip again because I know it's a classic.
But the degree of arrogance from her to first of
all lie directly to lester Holt about something that is
very clear that he could call her on, and then

(06:07):
to follow it up with such a dismissive line about
why I haven't been to Europe and all, I'm not
quizzing you about NATO, I'm not quizzing you about Brussels.
I'm quizzing you about the border. Why would you focus
and even try to pivot in such a stupid way?
Listen to this again because I think it is an
emblematic moment with Kamala Harris where you really get the

(06:31):
sense that she's not very good on her feet, and
also that she's expecting for lester Holt to just accept
her lie and move on. This is sometimes you hear
a thirty second clip, and I think it's an important
window into the larger media universe, both for the candidate
and or the vice president in this case, but also

(06:52):
the media environment in general. Let's listen to one more time.
You have any plans to visit the border at some point,
we are going to the border. We've been to the border.
So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
We've been to the border. We've been to the border.
You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been
to Europe. And I mean, I don't I don't understand

(07:14):
the point that you're making. Well, we all understood the point.
One understands the point. Everybody knew exactly what I can't.
I can see without being there. The looks on the
faces of her staffers just just also saying the beat
moment that that is. It could have been more clear.
But let's get into the why why would she? I mean,
now we know it's because Trump. Look, Trump gets results

(07:37):
once again, he's getting results on this. She has to
go down because otherwise Trump going down creates a photo
op that's even more damaging than the photo ops she
was trying to avoid, which was Kamala Harris at the
US Mexico border. As the borders are as, the numbers
keep coming out and it continues to get worse. This

(07:59):
is an issue, and this is the on a policy level.
The takeaway here that everyone needs to understand is that
the Democrats don't want this situation to stop. They want
to control the optics of what's happening, which is the
massive you want to talk about systematic, This is the
systematic gaming of our asylum process by people who are entered.

(08:24):
They are breaking the law. So many commentators get that wrong.
Even if you surrender at the border, say here, I
am I want to claim asylum when you enter onto
US soil. To do that not at a port of entry,
that is a violation of statute. And then they've so
overwhelmed the system and the cartels are making hundreds of
millions of dollars on this now on top of all

(08:46):
the drugs that they're running by having border patrol have
to deal with all the people that are coming across.
So this then becomes an issue of how do Democrats
stop something clay that they actually think in the long
run benefits them politically, because they still want an amnesty
and they feel like this is first of all, the

(09:07):
virtue signaling on this is great, Yeah, open borders, let's
give away free healthcare, as they said on the debate stage,
and the Democrat primary to illegal immigrants. There So the party,
the Democrat Party has moved so far left that they
can't even pretend to want to stop illegal immigration from
a current. That's where we really are. And so Kamala

(09:28):
Harris doesn't want to go down because she's not going
to fix this problem, because she doesn't really want to
fix this problem. And she's going on Friday because she
hopes it gets buried into the weekend, and to your point,
because she knows when Donald Trump with other Republican congressmen
goes next week, they were going to be able to
wield a massive attack on her and the Biden administration

(09:51):
in general by saying, Hey, I'm not even president right now,
but I can make it down to check and see
what's going on in the border. Your current administration has
still not manage that. And so what she's trying to
do is blunt that attack by going down on Friday,
hoping a lot of people aren't going to pay attention,
and then she can say well, I've now been to
the border, and it's amazing that this is the first

(10:15):
real thing that has been put on the Kamala Harris ledger,
so to speak. And yet we all know I mean,
and we'll be talking for this a lot. There's a
widespread belief that she will be the next Democrat. I
don't know if it's incumbent, but the next Democrat president
of the United It would they be racist and sexist

(10:36):
for her not to be the nominee in twenty twenty
four by the Democrat's own standards. And yet what has
she shown us so far of actual ability and results
in office. I'll never forget back during the primary, the
Democrat primary, when she said very very nonchalant and arrogant fashion.
I mean, it's clear I'm a top tier candidate. It's like,

(10:58):
actually the voters, the crack voters had a very different
feeling about this. Well, she's not likable, that's the essence.
And this is why I hope she's the nominee in
twenty twenty four because Kamala Harris, if you put her
on a stage, ultimately, this is a TV contest. Kamala
Harris has no children. She is married to a dorky

(11:18):
white dude lawyer. And I can say that because I'm
kind of a dorky, white dude lawyer. She doesn't have
a history of being particularly likable. And depending on who
the nominee is for the Republican Party in twenty twenty four,
I believe that what Kamala Harris is going to lean
on is the same thing that Hillary Clinton leaned on,

(11:39):
which is I'm a woman, I deserve this. And she's
also going to add in I'm a minority woman, I
deserve this. And I don't think America responds to I
deserve to be elected because of my identity. I really don't.
The CNN Green Room does. That's really that's where it does.
But even if you go back in Obama two thousand

(12:01):
and eight, that was a America is Amazing campaign. Obama
two thousand and eight would be a Republican campaign now,
it was Hey, I'm a single, I got a mom,
I'm mixed race, I'm from Hawaii, I got a weird name,
and I can still be elected president of the United States.
Go back and look at what he ran on in
two thousand and eight. Now, his biography on his two

(12:23):
autobiographies Democrats run on entitlement now. They deserve it because
of their identity Atlone, not because America is an amazing place.
We'll have to come back to what Obama ran on
another time in O eight. I think it's a fascinating question.
Go look at it. Opposed a gay marriage. He couldn't
be the nominee. Obama couldn't in twenty twenty or twenty

(12:46):
twenty four. He would be a racist and a sexists
by their same standard. Their old positions would be reason
for cancelations if they were Republicans. But they don't apply
the same state. Don't apply the same state. You know
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back in session here at the Institute of Advanced Conservative
Studies Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.
Welcome back in Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Kamala

(14:39):
Harris headed down to the Border and I actually think
this is interesting buck. We've talked about this off air,
I don't think you've talked about it on the air.
Unlike Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, you have actually been
down to the border somewhat recently, and you can actually
tell people what it's like, what you saw, and what

(15:01):
the border agents who you interacted with talked about from
their perspective. Anyone who tells you that the border isn't
open either doesn't know what they're talking about or is
lying to you. Now you could argue it's not entirely open.
But when I was down in McCallan, Texas and rotting
along with some border patrol folks and going to see

(15:23):
a different areas of the border, what's really happening. It
is a constant inflow of people who are all paying
off the cartels. They have to you know, the cartels
break down border areas and what they call plazas, and
there's a fee, a per head fee to come across.
And the police on the Mexican side of the borders,

(15:44):
we know, are largely outgunned and often corrupt, so you
can't rely on them really as partners in this process.
In fact, many times they're co opted by the cartels.
And I stood there Clay and I saw particularly family units,
but women coming across with young children, and they have

(16:05):
bracelets on them to show that they've paid the cartel fee.
They have pieces of paper with the number and name
of someone in this country once they've crossed in illegally
that they're supposed to then be transferred to. And this
is all about gaming the system because the family units
get different treatment and depending on the age of the
child at the border, there's a greatly enhanced likelihood of

(16:29):
being able to stay in the country. And the HHS
facilities like the Donna facility in McAllen, and I've been
to the border in Alpasso and at San Diego, the
San Diego Tijuana. I found out, by the way, it
is not Tijuana. What is it Tijuana? That's how you pronounced.
I don't I don't speak a word of Spanish, but
I know it's Tijuana now, So no moss Tijuana for me.

(16:52):
And they they made it very clear when I when
I would go to each of these different sections of
the border that as long as the incentives Clayer place
for the cartel to keep bringing people in this way,
because there's a very high likelihood that they'll be able
to that their human cargo will be able to stay.
The flow keeps coming. You're gonna have a million plus

(17:14):
illegal entries in the United States this year, a million plus,
say one point five million, maybe even more. I just
think it's so instructive because, to your credit, you talk
about an issue and you've actually gone and been there.
And it also is why I find Kamala Harris's I
haven't been to Europe line so offensive to so many people.
I think so many of our listeners do as well,

(17:36):
because where you go and what you focus on tells
us what matters to you. And I understand. Look, when
you're a politician, there are a billion things coming at
you every single day. And look, we know a little
bit about this on this show because people sometimes say, hey,
how come we didn't talk about X, or how can
we didn't talk about why? We try to talk about
things that matter to us and we believe are going
to matter to you. And when you are telling me

(17:58):
you are the borders are you haven't been willing to
actually go to the border, I'm sorry that tells me
far more than I think you realize that you are
telling me, and then you try to insult us by
saying I haven't been to Europe either. I'm sorry, I'm
not buying it. Just to your point, Clay, I think
often the biggest editorial decision you can make is actually
what you focus on, more so than even how you

(18:20):
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in from my homestead of New York, now Clay. Yesterday,
we were having our big chat about the filibuster. Yes,
and this is something that the Democrats have been talking

(21:07):
about for months. You'd think that because he had Mansion
in cinema come out and say, all right, you know,
but but then Mansion gets a little gets a little
weak in the knees, it seems, over this thing. And
now Bernie Sanders is out there telling everybody that it's time.
You know, our our democracy is at risk and we

(21:28):
come through this that I'm sitting here with this evil
capitalist with no mask on named Clay Travis, and I'm
telling you he's a He is a threat every day
on radio to democracy. And here's Bernie saying that the
filibuster is also a threat to democracy. Go ahead, I'm
tired of talking about mister Mansion and miss Cinema. You know,

(21:49):
we have got to do what we can to bring
people together. The American people, I think all over this
country understand that now is the time to act. And
I will also tell you know, clearly we are constrained
by the fact that we only have shifty Democrats. And
to my mind, what this next election is going to
be about is whether the American people want us to

(22:10):
have a government that represents all people that believes in
democracy or not. And we need a hell of a
lot more Democrats in the Senate that we have right now.
What's so interesting about these comments from Bernie Sanders is
there's the usual fluff. And by the way, your Bernie
Sanders impersonation is almost spot on. I mean, that is

(22:31):
a that is a very good impersonation. I have to say,
Bernie sounds like he's acknowledging that basically, the don't ever
use any crisis, don't let a crisis go to waste
argument is effectively given up the ghost here because that's
an argument for twenty twenty two, it's not really an

(22:53):
argument for twenty twenty one. That's what stands out to
me about what he's saying. Even though he's trying to
not want to talk about Joe Manchin and Kristin Cinema,
two of his Senate colleagues, and the Democratic Party, he's
acknowledging that they don't have the votes to change the filibuster.
And if they don't have the votes to change the filibuster,
then effectively they have to work with the Republicans or
nothing's going to happen. This feels to me like a

(23:14):
very defeatist statement by Bernie Sanders. Let me just say
that anyone who leans on the phrase a lot in
public life, crisis and our democracy, yes, is somebody that
you gotta wonder about what they're saying, no matter what
the subject matter is. It's like somebody that's always putting
forward their pronouns when nobody asks. They're telling you a
lot just by using the phrase crisis and our democracy.

(23:38):
And I think that with Bernie Sanders, obviously there's a
degree of him just pushing this issue so that the
left wing base feels like, you know, the revolution is alive,
and well he feels us, He knows resistance is still living,
he knows where we are on this or where they
are party on this issue. But I also don't think

(24:00):
it's important for everyone to recognize that the very people
who are constantly talking about the undermining of our democracy
when they don't get their way. Bernie Sanders is just
an example of this, and the undermining of our institutions
are people who want to radically transform our institutions and

(24:20):
therefore our democracy. So there's this. You add this all together,
you say whole on a second. They always talked about
it for four years under Trump, it was all our
sacred institutions, and now they're trying to dramatically change those
very institutions, all under this idea that if they don't
get their way, then we're all under threat, the insurrections coming.

(24:44):
And I think I'm like a lot of people where
I feel like as if we have gotten a big win,
even though it's not being talked about as much by
Joe Manchin. I know you're skeptical that they're going to
stay committed to being opposed to the filibuster in Kristen
Center because and you made an argument yesterday. I think
it's a good one, Buck, where you were saying, Hey,

(25:04):
the seducing of these Democratic politicians is not going to end.
But once you put it in writing in your local
West Virginia newspaper. And by the way, I think there's
a strong argument that the last statewide Democrat to ever
be elected from West Virginia in any of our lives
is Joe Manchon, and he knows that, and if he
wants to be re elected in twenty twenty four, he

(25:26):
barely was reelected in twenty eighteen. And I think Kristin
Cinema knows that the state of Arizona twenty twenty was
an aberration, and I think she recognizes how much of
a balancing act being able to be re elected in
John McCain's home state and a historically strong conservative market
is going to be. So I tend to believe that
once they put it in writing, they're not going to

(25:47):
bend on the will of the filibuster. Do you think
that the filibuster is truly done, or do you think
that it still could come up that the Democrats find
a way to overturn sixty vote number. I was somebody
who back in the Obamacare era when we were being
it was a bit of a consensus position. They won't

(26:07):
really do this without a single Republican vote, right, they
won't go that scorched earth and hardcore on this issue.
And they did it, and they got it through. As
we all remember to what we agreed on yesterday, that
Democrats are willing in a way that Republicans are just
simply not to go for it, you know, to make

(26:28):
that final push, to pull the trigger, so to speak.
That Democrats are willing to make it happen. I think
that this is this is something where they're going to
try to read the room a bit, read the polls
really and see is it enough to merely play the
oh they're obstructing us card, and so they'll back off.
The Republicans are obstructing, So they back off going into

(26:50):
the midterms in an effort to keep the House, which
you and I both know is going to be very
tough for Democrats this time around. But they want to
try to keep that because they know if you have
divided government and abiding presidency, this guy's not a leader.
This guy's mister mcdou. If Biden is even still there, right,
I mean, if he doesn't step down, and I always
tell everyone this, try to try to get this on
the record. The moment that Biden and who knows when

(27:13):
it will be, decides that for personal health reasons, whatever it,
maybe he's gonna step down, everyone who's currently saying that's
a crazy conspiracy theory will act like, oh, of course
he said. You know, he's almost eighty years old. Guys
like you know, this is the game that they're that
they're playing all along here. We just saw it happen
with COVID and the league from the lab. Oh, it's

(27:34):
a crazy conspiracy theory. How dare you have that perspective?
As soon as it starts to go into the mainstream,
John Stewart comes out, makes a joke. Everybody in the
Stephen Colbert audience is rolling over with hysterical laughter at
the idea that anyone ever believed that that COVID didn't
come out of the Wuhan Virology Lab. I also think
there's a childishness that is running rampant, and you have

(27:56):
kids that I don't, so you actually have to deal
with child By the way, might say that I'm the
biggest child in the house if she were sitting in
the studio with us right now. But yes, I have
three kids under thirteen. But there is a childishness at
the heart of the Democrat Party with the arguments here
against the filibuster, because what they're really saying is we
want to get it our way this time now because

(28:18):
there's this this false urgency. But I would I would
counter with that kind of transformational things. I mean, federalizing
national elections, for example, should be hard from a legislative perspective,
DC Puerto Rico getting four senators should be hard. Adding
six Supreme Court justices that should be a pretty high standard.

(28:39):
I think to meet and gridlock is just a way
of saying balance of powers working as it does. Agreeing
to radical change. Gridlock is not a bad thing to me.
I think it's fascinating with all the all the flip flopping,
and we should break back that term or remember when
that was basically the end of John Kerry, Yes, and
when he was running for Press four before you were

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against it. That's right. At ever, at rallies, it was
always flip flop, flip flop. Not quite as fun as
build the Wall, but flip flop had its moment, the
Democrat flip flopping on issues having to do with our
institutions of government. But but also the narrative against Trump
was the hashtag resistance. Yes, and it was the hashtag

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resistance judiciary, legislature, anything anywhere in government where they could.
And this was, by the way, people I know well
from the previous White House said that the just the
tip of the iceberg. What you've heard of what has
been reported about how many people in the federal bureaucracy
would just essentially say, no, make us Yeah, you're the president,

(29:43):
you're the head of the executive branch, but we're not
going to do that. We're gonna take our time. So
there was an intransigence, a kind of internal sabotage, and
that was all the hashtag resistance. Now, when Republicans use
the very system of government that we have in a
completely legitimate way to say we're not going along with you,
the Democrats are like, it's time for the steamroller. Let's

(30:05):
get that steamroller. And to her credit, in the Washington
Post editorial that she put out yesterday that we talked about.
Kristin Cinema pointed out that thirty one Democratic senators, including
Joe Biden himself, had been opposed to doing away with
the filibuster in twenty seventeen. As a part of the resistance.
The thing that they held to most stringently was the idea, well,

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at least you're gonna need to get sixty votes in
order to enact radical transformation. And it should be hard
buck think about this. If you're gonna go from nine
Supreme Court senators to fifteen, just should be yes. Three
Court senator to be an interesting angle too. Fifteen justice
it should be insanely hard to add senators in Washington,
DC and Puerto Rico and states. That should be massively

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hard as well. This shouldn't be an easy thing to do.
And yet we're told that the false urgency of now
dictates that everything that we've known in the past about
government no longer. No longer everything they've said, forget about
what we know. Everything the Democrats used to say about
the balance of powers and how this all works does
not matter the for me. There are so many great

(31:11):
phrases from the Obama era, there was leading from behind,
there was strategic patience. I mean, you didn't you didn't
build that. You didn't build that. But if you wanted
the really defining and of course ram Emanuel didn't come
up with this, I think you could go back to Sunsu.
You could go back to the ancient god's Chinese wisdom,
and you could go back and realize that when ram

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Emanuel is the White House Chief of Staff, said a
crisis is a terrible thing to waste. Democrats, you'll go
they lurch from one crisis to the next. And that's
the pitch. COVID is an opportunity, The debt is an opportunity.
The border, even for them, is an opportunity. And that's
why the insurrection and all the rest of it is

(31:55):
so important to them. And I've got a quote, by
the way, when I use that term, I use the
term to disparage the notion that it was an insurrection,
which it flat lee was not. I mean, I used
to work in the CIA, I know, I know a
bit about coups, folks. It wasn't a coup. But we'll
come back in just a moment, get into some of that,
and then the huge story clay about the rebellion from

(32:18):
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look again, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're rolling through
hanging out with you guys. Appreciate all of you spending
your time with us. A lot of you want to
weigh in on a different topics. Let me take a
few of your calls. We get ready to tee up
the third hour of the program. Let's go to Stephanie
in Kentucky. Stephanie, what's up? Hi? I just wanted to
say a couple things about the fellabus to real quick

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if I could. I think it's worth mentioning. A lot
of people who are conservatives realize this, but the Democrats
only have a fifty one to forty nine percent majority
in Congress, so when they say these things like there's
this mandate that we have to create these big changes.
The numbers aren't on their side, and the point remind
anyone of that, and I think that's worth keeping in

(34:32):
mind that all of Americas should keep that in mind.
But they really don't have a mandate behind them. I
think that's a great point. And in fact, if you
add in governorships, I believe Republicans have twenty seven governorships
and Democrats have twenty three, which again goes back to
Stephanie's point here from Kentucky. Great call. I mean, we're
in a fifty fifty divided government book, and so this

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idea that there's some massive mandate that exists. I mean,
Kamala Harris is breaking ties in the Senate fifty fi.
If we're looking at this from the perspective of dare
I say, fairness, you would think that now should be
a time for extreme bipartisan measures, not extreme unilateral measures
the steamroller, As I said before, you know, they're revn

(35:15):
that thing up, like who needs Republican opposition? Who cares?
Let's just squash them. It's about fifty fifty folks, And
it wasn't you know. We can talk about the election,
the presidential election another day, another time. But it wasn't
some huge mandate either. When you look at the margins
in a lot of state, thousand votes Buck twenty thousand,
people change their mind. Even with the totals that are

(35:35):
out there right now. That's one college basketball arena, that's
one NBA or NHL arena. And we're talking about Donald
Trump being reelected even based on the numbers that are
out there right now. Bill also wants to weigh in,
which you got for me? Bill? How you doing, guys?
Thank you for fantastic I went to weigh in on
the filibuster. I'm a strong Second Amendment advocate. And with

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that for the filibuster, if they're talking about doing away
with they want to do away with that, I'm want
to remind the Democrats how many times they've used that
against the Republicans. So if they do away with the filibuster,
I think come the next election, we're going to clean
their playoff in the House of the Senate and we're
not going to have the filibuster to have to deal with.
And boy, you talk about stirring the pot. We're going

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after a lot of things they have tried that they
have successfully defended using the filibuster, so they no. Sorry
to cut you off, Bill, we got a hard out
coming up here in a minute to finish the second hour.
But to Bill's point, that's the argument against the filibuster
right as you would have extremes from one side to
the other in the by the way, that's what Mitch
McConnell said when the filibuster was taken away, as it

(36:45):
pertains to spring Court justices, and he was right, as
you pointed out yesterday with that warning, it's exactly how
it played out, and you have now caving off for example.
I hope even beyond we always we always focus in
the media too much. I think on the Supreme Court,
the federal judiciary, across the board Circuit Court matters a
whole heck of a lot in terms of how the

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law is applied in this country, what it all means.
So it was a game changer, and Democrats certainly lived
to rue the day that they went with the nuclear option.
It was not the right move. Look, next hour, we've
got the insurrection that wasn't an insurrection. Updates on that
for you, and also the rebellion against CRT at school boards.

(37:26):
Big story out of Virginia on that coming up. You're
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