February 19, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Kimberly Fletcher discuss the critical role of activism in addressing issues such as the border crisis, education, and gender ideology in sports. Kimberly shares her experiences as the president of Moms for America, emphasizing the importance of local engagement and community relationships in effecting change. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast Today. I have someone
with me who I met years and years ago when
I first got into the conservative movement. And I had
always been a Republican, but I didn't know the amount
of work that goes in behind the scenes until I
met this woman. And honestly, I didn't even really realize
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what that meant when I did meet her, because I
was going around talking to people on the border she
had created. She had grabbed these groups and like funded
all these trips to the border so people could see
exactly how horrible it was what was going on. Then
this is years into her already being an activist for
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many years, but this was for me, my introduction to
the conservative movement was this woman who was just this powerhouse,
grabbing members of Congress, getting them down there, showing them
what was really happening, talking about these kids, talking about
these moms, and talking about the kids on the ground.
I mean, I will never forget the stories that she
was telling me about the school kids that were dealing
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with these people coming across the border, dangerous people running
through their playgrounds, having to shut down the schools, but
also the tree filled with women's underwear the rapes, the
children that were being abused, all these horrible stories, but
she was on the front lines making sure people knew.
And so that's why I am so excited to have
my friend, Kimberly Fletcher, she is the president of Moms
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for America with me today. Kimberly, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm joining you. You're my favorite people. And you know,
the things that we saw back in President Trump's first
term in office and the things that we see now,
I have to say it was worth all the work
an effort that we put in over the last two
years to make sure that he did get elected, because
things are being put right now and all those atrocities
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that happened at the border, they have been exposed over
the years, and largely it was because I mean other
people were saying it, who are on the border, the
border patrol, the law enforcement. It was like they're being ignored.
It was when the moms went down there, talked to
other moms and showed people in video what was actually happening,
and the White House asked for those videos, and a
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lot of those things were being exposed from a different
vantage point and moms started to realize, listen, this isn't
about separating kids from families. These kids don't belong to
these families. Women are being raped, children are being abused sexually,
and all across the border. They're being put in the system,
and nobody knows where they are or what's happening to them.
And now the conversation is changing and it's really hard
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for them to push their lives now that the truth
has come out.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, I would say you were one of the first
moms to really see the manipulation of the left. Like
a lot of people think that these movements on the
left happen organically, but you were seeing, No, this isn't organic.
This is these manufactured stories. They're going out in multiple
different ways into society and people are buying them. But
there's an alternative story here. There's the truth, and there's
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the truth that people like when you just said these
weren't families being separated, and that was actually common knowledge
among news people. These were. They were even doing DNA
tests at a certain point, and then they realized the
DNA tests were too expensive. They couldn't or supposedly, I mean,
they can spend three hundred dollars on a broom, but
they couldn't do a DNA test on people to make
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sure that the kids were actually with their parent and
not a trafficker, And that to me was so powerful.
And then boy, that mission really started to change and
evolve because we that was where I started with you,
and I saw all of this happening and I was like,
my gosh, this woman is working so hard to make
people see and that work. I want people to know
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that that work that seemed like it was very behind
the scenes, was getting national attention from people who were
finally opening their eyes and going, WHOA, my gosh, this
is a disaster. I mean, I remember a woman who
was a leftist and she said I had to prove
these people wrong, and you were probably one of them
that I and I had to do a documentary to
show what was really happening at the border. And when
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I found out what was really happening, I was horrified
because it was exactly what you were saying. It was
so to me that was kind of the journey that
I started on with you. But then we went into
COVID and what was happening in schools, and you really
started to expose some of this indoctrination that was happening
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in these schools and pushing these agendas, and they got
to the point where you have like the Riley Gaines
of the world who were saying, hey, I didn't get
the trophy I wanted. And there you were saying, we
told you this was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, It's funny because I call it this something
WI ged this way come moment. And it was two
thousand and three and I had run for school board
in a suburb of DC in northern Virginia. And I
saw things, and I saw the direction that our country
was going in multiple different ways between i'd say two
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thousand and one and two thousand and six. It was
like one thing after another. I started to see literally
something would get this way come and it was already brewing.
And I tell people all the time, I was always there.
We just didn't see it. It's like the Lord of
the Rings. The Orcs were always under the ground, evil
and doing the dark things that they were doing. It
wasn't until the ground ripped open and they all started
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floing at you when you're like, oh my gosh, what's
going on? And so for fifteen years people looked at me,
and almost especially looked at me like a helicopter parent
with a tinfoil hat. And then when twenty twenty came around,
they're like, oh my gosh, this is really happening. So
I saw what they were doing to our history curriculum.
I saw the deceptions. It wasn't even a matter of
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taking things out of history anymore. They were completely rewriting history.
I saw the books that they were pushing in the school.
That was my first explore to a book called It's
Perfectly Normal, which is graphic pornography for children, and they
call it a classic way to teach children about sexuality.
And they promoted it ten years and enough and it
was it's everywhere. It has been around for thirty years,
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and they celebrate their thirty year anniversary or forty year anniversary,
and I'm just like, wow, this is crazy that these
things are going underneath the radar and parents don't even
know what's happening. So I became that voice of warning,
trying to make parents aware that this was happening.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And it was always like.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh, not my school, not my classroom, you know. And
in twenty twenty, they realize it's everywhere because it's being
pushed by the teachers unions, and the communist agenda has
been pushed through the teachers union, and they're using women,
and they're using all of these good things that were
started for good purposes infiltrating them. I'm pushing these communists,
anti American, anti family ideas that are harming our children.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So it's interesting that you.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Say in twenty twenty, when everybody recognized I was telling
the truth, No.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's it's it's true, because honestly, when I met you,
I'm like, what what motivates somebody to go to this extreme?
To I mean, because it's hard work this. You have
to get people to believe in what you're saying. You
have to get people to donate to your cause. And
that's what I think a lot of people don't understand.
When you do donate to a political cause, find out
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if the person actually knows what they're doing, what kind
of impact they're having, what they're what they're trying to,
what impact they're trying to have. And I'm sure at
the beginning this was just kind of you started like, oh,
I've got to I've got to go out there and
talk about this. But you created an organization in Moms
for America. That really did have a massive effect in
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how how politics ticks have been shaped today. And that,
to your point is four years that Donald Trump was
not in office was vindicating for you, because I think
and for so many and even for Donald Trump, because
people were like, this is not happening. These people are
crying wolf. And then all of a sudden, all of
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this started to change and we end. I mean, in Michigan,
they just passed tampons in the boys' bathroom bill. And
you know, I was talking about this the other day
because then Donald Trump came out with these executive orders
and there was one of our legislators here who was like,
this is devastating for trans youth. And don't tell me
there aren't trans youth in the state of Michigan, because
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there's two right now playing in sports. And I thought
it's so interesting because the argument is from the standpoint
of parents who have girls in sports, well, why should
we allow these few kids to come in and wreck
the sports for the girls, wreck the chance of getting
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into college, the scholarships and all that, because they want,
these kids want us to change everything. And people, how
can you say that, how can you not hold my
child into this, you know, high esteem. It's not that
at all. But I think about my niece. She was
born without a left hand, and never once has my
sister said, well, I want all of the cheerleaders to
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only use one hand, or I want all of the
kids to only be able to use one hand when
they're an art class. You know, She's never said everybody
has to be exactly like this, they all have to
do the same thing. And so I really do think, like, yeah,
there are people that are different. There are people, and
I think we always make accommodations for the people that
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are different, But that doesn't mean that you take away
from somebody who actually has an opportunity to achieve in
their sport. That is not a fair That is not
a fair fight.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, it was not, and it was actually dangerous for
our daughters, and that's why we fought so hard to
make sure that they are safe places remain safe.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And this idea.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That the way that they phrase the story right after
or like within hours on President Trump signing this, every
every outlet, everywhere, even Fox was talking about how transgender
youth we were, you know now pushed out of the
sports industry. That is that is a falsehood because there's
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no such thing as transgender anything. It doesn't exist, and
we need to start saying it. There. There is gender dysphoria.
That is a real thing where people have a mental disorder,
and we need to stop sugarcoating it and and as
ascerbating the problem, and we need to go to the
root cause of why they don't like who they are
or think that that they're not saying they're they're not
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in the body that they want.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, and we've had so many of these young people
come out and say that they wish that that conversation
had been had, And that to me is the part
where you have some of these activists who say, you're
not allowed to even have that conversation, maybe there's something
else going on. They immediately go to some radical either
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medication or surgery. And there's a lot of people now
today who are coming out and saying, I wish that
hadn't happened to me, but we're not allowed to talk
about that now.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And the whole entire medical and mental health industry has
conformed to this idea of just accept it. The mental
health industry was supposed to be there to help people
who are struggling, but give them an opportunity to realize
just how amazing they are, find out what their what
their pains are. A lot of these kids that are
being put in this situation have been mentally or physically
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or sexually abused. They are on the spectrum. They are targets.
They are victimizing our children. They're bullying and intimidating everybody
else who doesn't adopt it. This is communists and Nazi
type of agenda pushing. And when you go through the history,
and this is one of the things that I've done
over the last two years, is I've just every speech
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I've given, every presentation I've done, the first few minutes
is all giving a history of hit stolid in mouth.
And when I just say this is what they did,
all these moms jaws dropped to the floor and they're like,
oh my gosh, because they realized this is what's happening
right now. They're weaponizing our children against their own future.
They are physically emotionally and physically, physically, emotionally and mentually
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abusing our children and sexually abusing them because they are
pushing concepts and ideas on them that they're not ready for.
And they just want, you know, more time on the
swing and extra long time in the playground recess.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
This is too big, too big for them, and we're
shoving these conversations at them and these concepts and these ideas,
and then we're punishing them when they don't accept it.
As young as kindergarten. Kindergarten kids are being sent to
the principal's office for not adopting the new pronoun of
their classmate, and they're being traumatized. So this is mom
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standing up and saying this is absurd. And one of
the things I tell moms all the time, there's something
very simple you can do. You need to read The
Emperor's New Closed by Hans Christian Anderson to your kids
three or four times a week so that they will
recognize the line when it's told and have the courage
to stand up and call it out. And if they
can't do it themselves, we're going to stand up and
we're going to do it with them and for them,
because this has got to stop. And this movement, they
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have pushed it way too far. They have pushed it
too far on the other side, and now we've got
an army of moms across the country standing up and
saying no.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Stay tuned. We have more with Moms for America founder
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Now stay tuned. We've got more with Kimberly after this.
As you've watched what's going on in Washington and what
the president has done with executive orders and nominees and
all of this, what do you think the left is doing?
I mean, what do you think they when they see that?
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What do you think they're thinking? And what are you thinking?
I mean, honestly, you've worked very hard to get him
into office, and I think you had a huge impact
on getting him into office.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He even said so himself, so that was nice.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But yes, we did.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And it's interesting because one of the main ways that
we got him into office was going to moms and
just talking about two issues, and that is what's happening
in our schools with our kids and our education and
the sports nonsense, and what's happening at the border with
the fentanyl and all the dangers that are coming from that.
And it resonated with these moms. And we were going
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into Hispanic and Black communities and they were changing their
party and their vote and because all moms care about
the same three things. First and foremost the safety and
protection of our children. Second, we want them to get
a good education, and third, opportunities to succeed. All of
those things have been being taken away from us or
trying to take away from us, and we're fighting back.
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So to have somebody in the White House who is
an advocate for a change instead of an enemy, who
is not calling as domestic terrorists for protecting our children,
that's a blessing. And so it was worth every minute
on the road, every time, every moment away from my family,
which was very challenging. We worked our tails off the
last two years, but when these executive orders started coming out,
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it's like.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I asked for that one. I asked for that one.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I asked So it was like, great, what do I
think the left is doing? I think their heads are exploding.
But we need to understand that the devil does not
give up. He doesn't just step aside and go, oh,
they won this one.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
We'll push back.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
No. So the general populace of the left that has
been lied to and deceived, who would be on our
side and for freedom and protecting our families if they
had the truth sent to them. Their heads are exploding
because they think the world's coming to an end, because
that's the garbage.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That they've been fed every day for the last however
many years.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But the people who have orchestrated this, they are their
heads aren't exploding. They're sitting around tables having zoom meetings,
and they're discussing how they're going to get their power back,
how they're going to stop President Trump, and so we
cannot stop. This isn't the time to yes, celebrate, but
this isn't the time to say, oh, we want to
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go to go away.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We want a battle, a big one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
We were about to lose everything in this country and
everything that we fight for, everything that we believe in.
It was going to be gone if President Trump did
not win, and that is a fact in reality.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Do you think we've rebooted?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Do you think there were a lot of people, though,
that were kind of secretly hoping for this, because when
you look at the polling on having men in women's sports,
it wasn't good for them either. This was not something
that was acceptable, and I think that it put a
lot of colleges and a lot of sports organizations in
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an uncomfortable position because they didn't want to go against
the leftists because the leftists are bringing in money and
they're bringing in this sport, and they can also destroy
you in the media. I mean they had The media
is a powerful tool. And I'm not making excuses for them,
but I am saying I think there is this ultimate
fear of we'll be taken down, We'll be disparaged. There's
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nothing we can do, Like if we come out and
we say that we are not going to allow these
kids to participate in these sports, then we're going to
be demonized. And there was power in the left until
there was an opportunity and there was another voice, and
you were one of those voices. And I say that
because I think that that was where we saw a
lot of those silent supporters that were going, I just can't,
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I can't sit by and let this happen. And I
might not have Kimberly Fletcher's voice, but I do have
a vote, and they voted. And now you have the
NCAA saying, yeah, we're actually we're going to make this changed.
They're not going to be and they shrip the male
athletes of the records.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You can see it on the national level. This is
what this is what's great. It was like as fast
as the NCAA did it proves your point. Uh, the NFL,
they're trying to hold.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They needed that cushion, they needed that support.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yes, they needed to know we're not the crazy ones.
And it is an enormous amount of pressure when it's
like high school and it's literally high school on the
world stage on an adult level, which is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We should you know, don't peak in high school.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Move on. But but that's what it was like. When
you're when you're in high school, it's like you've got
the band geeks, and you've got the univerities. Everybody's being
divided and it's like, no, we're not divided. We're one
nation and common sense will prevail. But like you said that,
the media is a beast. And when you've got the
media out there that can decimate you and and a
and a sound bite, then you're gonna you're gonna worry
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about that. And plus you then in addition to that,
you've got the federal funds which are saying do this
or we're going to take your money away. Well, I
and one of the things that I that I told,
you know, talk to the administration about and different members
administration was they've been bribing in blackmailing us with our
own money for years. The President of the United States
has no power and authority to tell any state, county,
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school district what to do.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He just does it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
All they can do is bribe in blackmailists with our
own money. So I said, the goal is to take
down the Department of Education. And Linda McMahon is going
for her hearing this week and her whole job is
to be out of a job in two years, and
everybody in the department we're all excited about that. But
before that happens, there has to be a full audit
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of the system. Where did the money come from, where
did it go, what policies were attached to the money,
and how can we turn it around? And this is
our opportunity with these executive orders, which are completely legaling
within the Constitution, unlike other presidents. With these executive orders,
we're able to send a different message to get everything
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back on the right track and then take down the
Department of Education because they've been doing this for decades
with the money to the states, to the school districts
and they've all bought it. There are some that are
going to push back, but most of them are going
to be like, thank god. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You make a good point, though, on the local level,
there is no fighting back because the local level has
control over your tax dollars and they can say how
they're going to spend them. So what is the answer
if there is no Department of ED. I mean, right
now you have California and Michigan both saying they're not
going to pay attention to trump executive order. They're going
to go against Trump's executive order, and therefore, I guess
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they will forego federal funding. I'm not exactly sure what
the punishment is for that, but what do.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's the only thing that can happen is they forego
the federal funding, so you are incentivized or you're penalized
with federal funds. My whole objective is to get rid
of the sixteenth Amendment altogether, so that that doesn't happen
at all, and there's no direct taxation of the American people,
which wasn't a thing until we get there. We have
to work within the scope of what we have, and
that is incentivized and penalized based on federal funds. So
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the only option they have to continue doing what they're
doing is to say we're not going to take your
federal money. I find it very hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That they're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They've been taking federal money for way too long. I
could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And it's not just those two states.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Of course, Minnesota, Illinois and others have jumped in and
said we're not going to do it either, And it's
all the nefarious states led by nefarious people and largely
Democrat Party. And anywhere where the Democrat Party is in control,
you have bad rule and your states are suffering on
multiple levels, including your roads not getting done because they're
boring about transitioning kids. So that is the only recourse
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that they have to fight back is to say I'm
not going to take your money. I really like to
see it on paper that they're not taking the money.
The President has made it very clear that he's not
going to allocate any funds to any entity that is
receiving federal funds to If they are promoting this idea
of men and boys and women's sports, we need to
take it a little bit further. And his executive order
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does that. I don't know if you're aware, but there's
a major uptick of men in men's prisons who are
suddenly deciding that they're women. Now, this is a problem
across the board. And so this is setting a precedent
in areas where he has jurisdiction and in the Department
of Justice and the military and other areas where we
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can set a standard on this level. But he even
went a step further. And this is one of the
things that I was talking to them about when they
were talking about all these orders. I'm like, you know,
there's not really anything you can do to tell the
world to push the world in the right direction. But
there is one really big thing you can do.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And if the.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
United States says that no Olympic team, we will not
recognize it. As you know, we are a country that
is our name and we are sponsoring these ports teams.
We will not have men playing in these It will
send a message to every other country and and they're
welcoming it. And I've been I've been to multiple events
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with over thirty countries represented, and they are overjoyed the
President Trump is in the White House because now they
feel like they have a fighting chance to push back
against all of this.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's not just happening to us, it's happening to them.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So this was an executive order that had a broad imploicment,
implement implementation, and the implications are cultural. Honestly, it gives
us a new point to push from that changes the
trajectory of the culture, so that we win.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, so let me ask you,
if the Department of Edge shuts down, then is there
still an area where these federal funds because I've been told, well,
this goes to a different agency. If you get rid
of the Department of ED, then you still have some
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control from the federal level because you will still have
those federal funds. They don't need to have an entire
Department of ED to go through and make all of
these because every time you have a department, it blows up,
it gets bigger. They want to have more and more
and more and more and more government. That's always seems
to be the answer. And I honestly, I've seen this
on both sides. It's like, too often do I see
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conservatives saying I want the government to do that for me,
And I'm like, no, no, you don't. If you don't
want apps on your kid's phone, no, put apps on
your kid's phone. Have the government do it. No.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, the more you go to the government, the bigger
the government's going to get. And I remind everybody that
it was a Republican governor that started the Homeland Security
and the patriotoc which are abominable and both should be gone.
And there was no reason for us to have a
Department of Homeland Security, none whatsoever. All of the agencies
were already there. There was a perfect way to communicate.
This was unnecessary. And the draconian measures that have been
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put in place because of both of those things is
very scary. The President of the United States now has
more power that we've granted him than Hitler did when
he took over Germany because of the Patriot Act and
Homeland Security. Homeland Security is the arm of the president,
and they can people can disappear. That's that's a fact
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and reality of that whole entire department. So there are
other departments that need to go away. You are correct.
There are places that funds can be put that make
sense for specific programs in different departments. And again, my
objective is to get rid of the sixteenth Amendment so
that doesn't exist, and this section eight of the Constitution
is respected as the only funding the federal government does.
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But until we get there, we use what we have.
So the federal government will the President will still have
power through this through these executive orders to administer the
same policies through the through the means that he provides
through the different departments. But the Department of Education has
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to be one hundred percent dismantled. It can be well,
it's only going to be five people, because the moment
the next guy comes in, it's going to turn into
three thousand again. So it has to be completely dismantled.
And the funds need to be dispersed. The allocation of
funds need to be dispersed into other departments where it
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So what is next for moms from America?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We're fighting on the local level. That's where this is
what's really exciting. Twenty twenty gave us so many gifts,
and one of them is I don't have to convince
people anymore that everything is local. They know that, they
know what's happening. They don't know why anybody would do this,
And that's the reason why people kept saying it can't
be happening, because who would believe that anybody would purposely
want to harm children or tear down the freest country
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in the world. Nobody would believe that that would happen.
But that's exactly what's happening. So now that I don't
have to convince them that everything's local, we are building
up our Moms from America groups across the country. We
have brought on more state liaisons to help facilitate things
happening with it the states, and we are going after
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the legislatures on specific educational policies. Right now, we're heavily
engrossed in the fight for school choice in Texas. We
have added language that made the bill stronger. We weren't
happy with the original bill, but we're very happy with
where we're at right now, and there's there's a need
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for us to be involved in our local communities. And
the thing that we're focusing on really strongly in the
next year and two is building those relationships locally with
the people who represent you know who your school member
board members are. We all know now it doesn't and
I tried to tell people, it gives you a nice
SoundBite as long as the media is paying attention to
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show up in a T shirt and yell at the
school board, but it doesn't get anything done.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Building relationships with those school board members does, and we
need to determine because most of them agree with us.
They can't stand this nonsense and and they're appalled when
they when we make them aware of what's happening. So
we need to make them aware of what's happening in
a respectful way. We need to build these relationships with them,
and we have a whole family lobby program to do that,
which is simple and fun and engaging and effective. And
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then when we are opposed to something, they're going to
listen to us instead of ignoring us. And that we
need to do the same thing with our sheriff, with
our state representatives, our county representatives. Show up at those
school board meetings, be seen smiling, and then that's how you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Get things done.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And when you realize the people that can't be moved,
their hearts and minds cannot be changed, those are the
people that you target to remove, and you start getting
involved in finding somebody to replace.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Them and getting involved in elections.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So if we want to turn this around, it's got
to be done on the local level, and the most
local level is home and family support, the home and
family and then your school district here.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So how do people find you? How do they get
that advice?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They can come to Momsfromerica dot us. We're actually in
the process of putting up a whole new front page
the website which is going to help direct people better.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Because everybody's like.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You have so much, I don't have to find what
I need.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This will help you.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So Momsfromerica dot us. Everything is there and all our
social media platforms, and we have a very unique feature
at Moms Fromerica. If you email us or call us,
we actually respond, so feel free to do.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So awesome, wonderful, Well we will send everybody there. Kimberly Fletcher,
she's the founder of Moms for America. Thank you so
much for being on today. Thank you, thank you, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
For this episode and others, go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com,
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podcasts and join us next time. Have a blessed day,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast Today. I have someone
with me who I met years and years ago when
I first got into the conservative movement. And I had
always been a Republican, but I didn't know the amount
of work that goes in behind the scenes until I
met this woman. And honestly, I didn't even really realize
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what that meant when I did meet her, because I
was going around talking to people on the border she
had created. She had grabbed these groups and like funded
all these trips to the border so people could see
exactly how horrible it was what was going on. Then
this is years into her already being an activist for
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many years, but this was for me, my introduction to
the conservative movement was this woman who was just this powerhouse,
grabbing members of Congress, getting them down there, showing them
what was really happening, talking about these kids, talking about
these moms, and talking about the kids on the ground.
I mean, I will never forget the stories that she
was telling me about the school kids that were dealing
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with these people coming across the border, dangerous people running
through their playgrounds, having to shut down the schools, but
also the tree filled with women's underwear the rapes, the
children that were being abused, all these horrible stories, but
she was on the front lines making sure people knew.
And so that's why I am so excited to have
my friend, Kimberly Fletcher, she is the president of Moms
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for America with me today. Kimberly, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm joining you. You're my favorite people. And you know,
the things that we saw back in President Trump's first
term in office and the things that we see now,
I have to say it was worth all the work
an effort that we put in over the last two
years to make sure that he did get elected, because
things are being put right now and all those atrocities
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that happened at the border, they have been exposed over
the years, and largely it was because I mean other
people were saying it, who are on the border, the
border patrol, the law enforcement. It was like they're being ignored.
It was when the moms went down there, talked to
other moms and showed people in video what was actually happening,
and the White House asked for those videos, and a
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lot of those things were being exposed from a different
vantage point and moms started to realize, listen, this isn't
about separating kids from families. These kids don't belong to
these families. Women are being raped, children are being abused sexually,
and all across the border. They're being put in the system,
and nobody knows where they are or what's happening to them.
And now the conversation is changing and it's really hard
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for them to push their lives now that the truth
has come out.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, I would say you were one of the first
moms to really see the manipulation of the left. Like
a lot of people think that these movements on the
left happen organically, but you were seeing, No, this isn't organic.
This is these manufactured stories. They're going out in multiple
different ways into society and people are buying them. But
there's an alternative story here. There's the truth, and there's
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the truth that people like when you just said these
weren't families being separated, and that was actually common knowledge
among news people. These were. They were even doing DNA
tests at a certain point, and then they realized the
DNA tests were too expensive. They couldn't or supposedly, I mean,
they can spend three hundred dollars on a broom, but
they couldn't do a DNA test on people to make
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sure that the kids were actually with their parent and
not a trafficker, And that to me was so powerful.
And then boy, that mission really started to change and
evolve because we that was where I started with you,
and I saw all of this happening and I was like,
my gosh, this woman is working so hard to make
people see and that work. I want people to know
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that that work that seemed like it was very behind
the scenes, was getting national attention from people who were
finally opening their eyes and going, WHOA, my gosh, this
is a disaster. I mean, I remember a woman who
was a leftist and she said I had to prove
these people wrong, and you were probably one of them
that I and I had to do a documentary to
show what was really happening at the border. And when
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I found out what was really happening, I was horrified
because it was exactly what you were saying. It was
so to me that was kind of the journey that
I started on with you. But then we went into
COVID and what was happening in schools, and you really
started to expose some of this indoctrination that was happening
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in these schools and pushing these agendas, and they got
to the point where you have like the Riley Gaines
of the world who were saying, hey, I didn't get
the trophy I wanted. And there you were saying, we
told you this was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, It's funny because I call it this something
WI ged this way come moment. And it was two
thousand and three and I had run for school board
in a suburb of DC in northern Virginia. And I
saw things, and I saw the direction that our country
was going in multiple different ways between i'd say two
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thousand and one and two thousand and six. It was
like one thing after another. I started to see literally
something would get this way come and it was already brewing.
And I tell people all the time, I was always there.
We just didn't see it. It's like the Lord of
the Rings. The Orcs were always under the ground, evil
and doing the dark things that they were doing. It
wasn't until the ground ripped open and they all started
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floing at you when you're like, oh my gosh, what's
going on? And so for fifteen years people looked at me,
and almost especially looked at me like a helicopter parent
with a tinfoil hat. And then when twenty twenty came around,
they're like, oh my gosh, this is really happening. So
I saw what they were doing to our history curriculum.
I saw the deceptions. It wasn't even a matter of
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taking things out of history anymore. They were completely rewriting history.
I saw the books that they were pushing in the school.
That was my first explore to a book called It's
Perfectly Normal, which is graphic pornography for children, and they
call it a classic way to teach children about sexuality.
And they promoted it ten years and enough and it
was it's everywhere. It has been around for thirty years,
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and they celebrate their thirty year anniversary or forty year anniversary,
and I'm just like, wow, this is crazy that these
things are going underneath the radar and parents don't even
know what's happening. So I became that voice of warning,
trying to make parents aware that this was happening.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And it was always like.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh, not my school, not my classroom, you know. And
in twenty twenty, they realize it's everywhere because it's being
pushed by the teachers unions, and the communist agenda has
been pushed through the teachers union, and they're using women,
and they're using all of these good things that were
started for good purposes infiltrating them. I'm pushing these communists,
anti American, anti family ideas that are harming our children.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So it's interesting that you.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Say in twenty twenty, when everybody recognized I was telling
the truth, No.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That's it's it's true, because honestly, when I met you,
I'm like, what what motivates somebody to go to this extreme?
To I mean, because it's hard work this. You have
to get people to believe in what you're saying. You
have to get people to donate to your cause. And
that's what I think a lot of people don't understand.
When you do donate to a political cause, find out
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if the person actually knows what they're doing, what kind
of impact they're having, what they're what they're trying to,
what impact they're trying to have. And I'm sure at
the beginning this was just kind of you started like, oh,
I've got to I've got to go out there and
talk about this. But you created an organization in Moms
for America. That really did have a massive effect in
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how how politics ticks have been shaped today. And that,
to your point is four years that Donald Trump was
not in office was vindicating for you, because I think
and for so many and even for Donald Trump, because
people were like, this is not happening. These people are
crying wolf. And then all of a sudden, all of
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this started to change and we end. I mean, in Michigan,
they just passed tampons in the boys' bathroom bill. And
you know, I was talking about this the other day
because then Donald Trump came out with these executive orders
and there was one of our legislators here who was like,
this is devastating for trans youth. And don't tell me
there aren't trans youth in the state of Michigan, because
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there's two right now playing in sports. And I thought
it's so interesting because the argument is from the standpoint
of parents who have girls in sports, well, why should
we allow these few kids to come in and wreck
the sports for the girls, wreck the chance of getting
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into college, the scholarships and all that, because they want,
these kids want us to change everything. And people, how
can you say that, how can you not hold my
child into this, you know, high esteem. It's not that
at all. But I think about my niece. She was
born without a left hand, and never once has my
sister said, well, I want all of the cheerleaders to
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only use one hand, or I want all of the
kids to only be able to use one hand when
they're an art class. You know, She's never said everybody
has to be exactly like this, they all have to
do the same thing. And so I really do think, like, yeah,
there are people that are different. There are people, and
I think we always make accommodations for the people that
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are different, But that doesn't mean that you take away
from somebody who actually has an opportunity to achieve in
their sport. That is not a fair That is not
a fair fight.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, it was not, and it was actually dangerous for
our daughters, and that's why we fought so hard to
make sure that they are safe places remain safe.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And this idea.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That the way that they phrase the story right after
or like within hours on President Trump signing this, every
every outlet, everywhere, even Fox was talking about how transgender
youth we were, you know now pushed out of the
sports industry. That is that is a falsehood because there's
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no such thing as transgender anything. It doesn't exist, and
we need to start saying it. There. There is gender dysphoria.
That is a real thing where people have a mental disorder,
and we need to stop sugarcoating it and and as
ascerbating the problem, and we need to go to the
root cause of why they don't like who they are
or think that that they're not saying they're they're not
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in the body that they want.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, and we've had so many of these young people
come out and say that they wish that that conversation
had been had, And that to me is the part
where you have some of these activists who say, you're
not allowed to even have that conversation, maybe there's something
else going on. They immediately go to some radical either
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medication or surgery. And there's a lot of people now
today who are coming out and saying, I wish that
hadn't happened to me, but we're not allowed to talk
about that now.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And the whole entire medical and mental health industry has
conformed to this idea of just accept it. The mental
health industry was supposed to be there to help people
who are struggling, but give them an opportunity to realize
just how amazing they are, find out what their what
their pains are. A lot of these kids that are
being put in this situation have been mentally or physically
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or sexually abused. They are on the spectrum. They are targets.
They are victimizing our children. They're bullying and intimidating everybody
else who doesn't adopt it. This is communists and Nazi
type of agenda pushing. And when you go through the history,
and this is one of the things that I've done
over the last two years, is I've just every speech
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I've given, every presentation I've done, the first few minutes
is all giving a history of hit stolid in mouth.
And when I just say this is what they did,
all these moms jaws dropped to the floor and they're like,
oh my gosh, because they realized this is what's happening
right now. They're weaponizing our children against their own future.
They are physically emotionally and physically, physically, emotionally and mentually
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abusing our children and sexually abusing them because they are
pushing concepts and ideas on them that they're not ready for.
And they just want, you know, more time on the
swing and extra long time in the playground recess.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
This is too big, too big for them, and we're
shoving these conversations at them and these concepts and these ideas,
and then we're punishing them when they don't accept it.
As young as kindergarten. Kindergarten kids are being sent to
the principal's office for not adopting the new pronoun of
their classmate, and they're being traumatized. So this is mom
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standing up and saying this is absurd. And one of
the things I tell moms all the time, there's something
very simple you can do. You need to read The
Emperor's New Closed by Hans Christian Anderson to your kids
three or four times a week so that they will
recognize the line when it's told and have the courage
to stand up and call it out. And if they
can't do it themselves, we're going to stand up and
we're going to do it with them and for them,
because this has got to stop. And this movement, they
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have pushed it way too far. They have pushed it
too far on the other side, and now we've got
an army of moms across the country standing up and
saying no.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
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Now stay tuned. We've got more with Kimberly after this.
As you've watched what's going on in Washington and what
the president has done with executive orders and nominees and
all of this, what do you think the left is doing?
I mean, what do you think they when they see that?
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What do you think they're thinking? And what are you thinking?
I mean, honestly, you've worked very hard to get him
into office, and I think you had a huge impact
on getting him into office.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
He even said so himself, so that was nice.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But yes, we did.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And it's interesting because one of the main ways that
we got him into office was going to moms and
just talking about two issues, and that is what's happening
in our schools with our kids and our education and
the sports nonsense, and what's happening at the border with
the fentanyl and all the dangers that are coming from that.
And it resonated with these moms. And we were going
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into Hispanic and Black communities and they were changing their
party and their vote and because all moms care about
the same three things. First and foremost the safety and
protection of our children. Second, we want them to get
a good education, and third, opportunities to succeed. All of
those things have been being taken away from us or
trying to take away from us, and we're fighting back.
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So to have somebody in the White House who is
an advocate for a change instead of an enemy, who
is not calling as domestic terrorists for protecting our children,
that's a blessing. And so it was worth every minute
on the road, every time, every moment away from my family,
which was very challenging. We worked our tails off the
last two years, but when these executive orders started coming out,
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it's like.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I asked for that one. I asked for that one.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I asked So it was like, great, what do I
think the left is doing? I think their heads are exploding.
But we need to understand that the devil does not
give up. He doesn't just step aside and go, oh,
they won this one.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
We'll push back.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
No. So the general populace of the left that has
been lied to and deceived, who would be on our
side and for freedom and protecting our families if they
had the truth sent to them. Their heads are exploding
because they think the world's coming to an end, because
that's the garbage.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That they've been fed every day for the last however
many years.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But the people who have orchestrated this, they are their
heads aren't exploding. They're sitting around tables having zoom meetings,
and they're discussing how they're going to get their power back,
how they're going to stop President Trump, and so we
cannot stop. This isn't the time to yes, celebrate, but
this isn't the time to say, oh, we want to
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go to go away.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
We want a battle, a big one.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
We were about to lose everything in this country and
everything that we fight for, everything that we believe in.
It was going to be gone if President Trump did
not win, and that is a fact in reality.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Do you think we've rebooted?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Do you think there were a lot of people, though,
that were kind of secretly hoping for this, because when
you look at the polling on having men in women's sports,
it wasn't good for them either. This was not something
that was acceptable, and I think that it put a
lot of colleges and a lot of sports organizations in
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an uncomfortable position because they didn't want to go against
the leftists because the leftists are bringing in money and
they're bringing in this sport, and they can also destroy
you in the media. I mean they had The media
is a powerful tool. And I'm not making excuses for them,
but I am saying I think there is this ultimate
fear of we'll be taken down, We'll be disparaged. There's
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nothing we can do, Like if we come out and
we say that we are not going to allow these
kids to participate in these sports, then we're going to
be demonized. And there was power in the left until
there was an opportunity and there was another voice, and
you were one of those voices. And I say that
because I think that that was where we saw a
lot of those silent supporters that were going, I just can't,
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I can't sit by and let this happen. And I
might not have Kimberly Fletcher's voice, but I do have
a vote, and they voted. And now you have the
NCAA saying, yeah, we're actually we're going to make this changed.
They're not going to be and they shrip the male
athletes of the records.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You can see it on the national level. This is
what this is what's great. It was like as fast
as the NCAA did it proves your point. Uh, the NFL,
they're trying to hold.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
They needed that cushion, they needed that support.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yes, they needed to know we're not the crazy ones.
And it is an enormous amount of pressure when it's
like high school and it's literally high school on the
world stage on an adult level, which is absurd.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
We should you know, don't peak in high school.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Move on. But but that's what it was like. When
you're when you're in high school, it's like you've got
the band geeks, and you've got the univerities. Everybody's being
divided and it's like, no, we're not divided. We're one
nation and common sense will prevail. But like you said that,
the media is a beast. And when you've got the
media out there that can decimate you and and a
and a sound bite, then you're gonna you're gonna worry
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about that. And plus you then in addition to that,
you've got the federal funds which are saying do this
or we're going to take your money away. Well, I
and one of the things that I that I told,
you know, talk to the administration about and different members
administration was they've been bribing in blackmailing us with our
own money for years. The President of the United States
has no power and authority to tell any state, county,
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school district what to do.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
He just does it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
All they can do is bribe in blackmailists with our
own money. So I said, the goal is to take
down the Department of Education. And Linda McMahon is going
for her hearing this week and her whole job is
to be out of a job in two years, and
everybody in the department we're all excited about that. But
before that happens, there has to be a full audit
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of the system. Where did the money come from, where
did it go, what policies were attached to the money,
and how can we turn it around? And this is
our opportunity with these executive orders, which are completely legaling
within the Constitution, unlike other presidents. With these executive orders,
we're able to send a different message to get everything
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back on the right track and then take down the
Department of Education because they've been doing this for decades
with the money to the states, to the school districts
and they've all bought it. There are some that are
going to push back, but most of them are going
to be like, thank god. Now.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You make a good point, though, on the local level,
there is no fighting back because the local level has
control over your tax dollars and they can say how
they're going to spend them. So what is the answer
if there is no Department of ED. I mean, right
now you have California and Michigan both saying they're not
going to pay attention to trump executive order. They're going
to go against Trump's executive order, and therefore, I guess
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they will forego federal funding. I'm not exactly sure what
the punishment is for that, but what do.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's the only thing that can happen is they forego
the federal funding, so you are incentivized or you're penalized
with federal funds. My whole objective is to get rid
of the sixteenth Amendment altogether, so that that doesn't happen
at all, and there's no direct taxation of the American people,
which wasn't a thing until we get there. We have
to work within the scope of what we have, and
that is incentivized and penalized based on federal funds. So
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the only option they have to continue doing what they're
doing is to say we're not going to take your
federal money. I find it very hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That they're going to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
They've been taking federal money for way too long. I
could be wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And it's not just those two states.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Of course, Minnesota, Illinois and others have jumped in and
said we're not going to do it either, And it's
all the nefarious states led by nefarious people and largely
Democrat Party. And anywhere where the Democrat Party is in control,
you have bad rule and your states are suffering on
multiple levels, including your roads not getting done because they're
boring about transitioning kids. So that is the only recourse
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that they have to fight back is to say I'm
not going to take your money. I really like to
see it on paper that they're not taking the money.
The President has made it very clear that he's not
going to allocate any funds to any entity that is
receiving federal funds to If they are promoting this idea
of men and boys and women's sports, we need to
take it a little bit further. And his executive order
(23:03):
does that. I don't know if you're aware, but there's
a major uptick of men in men's prisons who are
suddenly deciding that they're women. Now, this is a problem
across the board. And so this is setting a precedent
in areas where he has jurisdiction and in the Department
of Justice and the military and other areas where we
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can set a standard on this level. But he even
went a step further. And this is one of the
things that I was talking to them about when they
were talking about all these orders. I'm like, you know,
there's not really anything you can do to tell the
world to push the world in the right direction. But
there is one really big thing you can do.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And if the.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
United States says that no Olympic team, we will not
recognize it. As you know, we are a country that
is our name and we are sponsoring these ports teams.
We will not have men playing in these It will
send a message to every other country and and they're
welcoming it. And I've been I've been to multiple events
(24:07):
with over thirty countries represented, and they are overjoyed the
President Trump is in the White House because now they
feel like they have a fighting chance to push back
against all of this.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's not just happening to us, it's happening to them.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So this was an executive order that had a broad imploicment,
implement implementation, and the implications are cultural. Honestly, it gives
us a new point to push from that changes the
trajectory of the culture, so that we win.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Well, so let me ask you,
if the Department of Edge shuts down, then is there
still an area where these federal funds because I've been told, well,
this goes to a different agency. If you get rid
of the Department of ED, then you still have some
(25:00):
control from the federal level because you will still have
those federal funds. They don't need to have an entire
Department of ED to go through and make all of
these because every time you have a department, it blows up,
it gets bigger. They want to have more and more
and more and more and more government. That's always seems
to be the answer. And I honestly, I've seen this
on both sides. It's like, too often do I see
(25:21):
conservatives saying I want the government to do that for me,
And I'm like, no, no, you don't. If you don't
want apps on your kid's phone, no, put apps on
your kid's phone. Have the government do it. No.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
No, the more you go to the government, the bigger
the government's going to get. And I remind everybody that
it was a Republican governor that started the Homeland Security
and the patriotoc which are abominable and both should be gone.
And there was no reason for us to have a
Department of Homeland Security, none whatsoever. All of the agencies
were already there. There was a perfect way to communicate.
This was unnecessary. And the draconian measures that have been
(25:54):
put in place because of both of those things is
very scary. The President of the United States now has
more power that we've granted him than Hitler did when
he took over Germany because of the Patriot Act and
Homeland Security. Homeland Security is the arm of the president,
and they can people can disappear. That's that's a fact
(26:14):
and reality of that whole entire department. So there are
other departments that need to go away. You are correct.
There are places that funds can be put that make
sense for specific programs in different departments. And again, my
objective is to get rid of the sixteenth Amendment so
that doesn't exist, and this section eight of the Constitution
is respected as the only funding the federal government does.
(26:34):
But until we get there, we use what we have.
So the federal government will the President will still have
power through this through these executive orders to administer the
same policies through the through the means that he provides
through the different departments. But the Department of Education has
(26:56):
to be one hundred percent dismantled. It can be well,
it's only going to be five people, because the moment
the next guy comes in, it's going to turn into
three thousand again. So it has to be completely dismantled.
And the funds need to be dispersed. The allocation of
funds need to be dispersed into other departments where it
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
So what is next for moms from America?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
We're fighting on the local level. That's where this is
what's really exciting. Twenty twenty gave us so many gifts,
and one of them is I don't have to convince
people anymore that everything is local. They know that, they
know what's happening. They don't know why anybody would do this,
And that's the reason why people kept saying it can't
be happening, because who would believe that anybody would purposely
want to harm children or tear down the freest country
(27:42):
in the world. Nobody would believe that that would happen.
But that's exactly what's happening. So now that I don't
have to convince them that everything's local, we are building
up our Moms from America groups across the country. We
have brought on more state liaisons to help facilitate things
happening with it the states, and we are going after
(28:02):
the legislatures on specific educational policies. Right now, we're heavily
engrossed in the fight for school choice in Texas. We
have added language that made the bill stronger. We weren't
happy with the original bill, but we're very happy with
where we're at right now, and there's there's a need
(28:22):
for us to be involved in our local communities. And
the thing that we're focusing on really strongly in the
next year and two is building those relationships locally with
the people who represent you know who your school member
board members are. We all know now it doesn't and
I tried to tell people, it gives you a nice
SoundBite as long as the media is paying attention to
(28:43):
show up in a T shirt and yell at the
school board, but it doesn't get anything done.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It doesn't change anything.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Building relationships with those school board members does, and we
need to determine because most of them agree with us.
They can't stand this nonsense and and they're appalled when
they when we make them aware of what's happening. So
we need to make them aware of what's happening in
a respectful way. We need to build these relationships with them,
and we have a whole family lobby program to do that,
which is simple and fun and engaging and effective. And
(29:10):
then when we are opposed to something, they're going to
listen to us instead of ignoring us. And that we
need to do the same thing with our sheriff, with
our state representatives, our county representatives. Show up at those
school board meetings, be seen smiling, and then that's how you.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Get things done.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And when you realize the people that can't be moved,
their hearts and minds cannot be changed, those are the
people that you target to remove, and you start getting
involved in finding somebody to replace.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Them and getting involved in elections.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
So if we want to turn this around, it's got
to be done on the local level, and the most
local level is home and family support, the home and
family and then your school district here.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So how do people find you? How do they get
that advice?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They can come to Momsfromerica dot us. We're actually in
the process of putting up a whole new front page
the website which is going to help direct people better.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Because everybody's like.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You have so much, I don't have to find what
I need.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This will help you.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So Momsfromerica dot us. Everything is there and all our
social media platforms, and we have a very unique feature
at Moms Fromerica. If you email us or call us,
we actually respond, so feel free to do.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So awesome, wonderful, Well we will send everybody there. Kimberly Fletcher,
she's the founder of Moms for America. Thank you so
much for being on today. Thank you, thank you, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
For this episode and others, go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com,
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts and join us next time. Have a blessed day,
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