Colin reacts to Shedeur Sanders' fall in the NFL draft and the Cleveland Browns finally drafting him in the 5th round.
He explains why Shedeur isn’t a good enough prospect to overcome the circus surrounding him, why his father Deion’s hubris hurt his draft stock, and why NFL teams don’t want a “celebrity quarterback” as their backup.
Timeline
4:00 Deion’s hubris didn’t help Shedeur’s draft stock
6:00 Shedeur wasn’t a good enough prospect to be making demands of NFL teams
7:45 “Quarterback Dad” is becoming “Pageant Mom” and hurts the kid
9:00 Multiple teams reported that Shedeur was bad in meetings and not engaged
10:30 Maturity and focus matter more for quarterbacks
13:45 Cleveland’s quarterback room is a mess
15:15 Shedeur is a good, not great prospect
17:00 Teams don’t want a “celebrity QB” as their backup
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All Right, I just thought so many people were talking
about shador standers falling in the draft to the Cleveland Browns.
Just a couple of things that I've been ruminating on
for the last day. I understand that Dion Sanders worked
at multiple TV Networks New York to I think at
CBS NFL network, I understand that a lot of people
(02:02):
at that NFL network building know Dion, But it is
our job as broadcasters to cut through that and be
honest with the audience. And I'm not going to call
out anybody individually, but I thought it was really strange
that all the draft coverage that I saw, as everybody
was shocked, dismayed that Shador Sanders had fallen in the draft,
(02:26):
nobody said even mentioned that maybe Dad didn't help him out.
I know, I know a lot of people know Deon
Sanders and like him. But go back to January, go
back to the Super Bowl week when Dion is on
multiple shows. It wasn't until mid March when Dion probably
(02:51):
somebody got into his ear or maybe he came to
his senses where Dion Sanders said, Okay, my son can
be drafted by anybody. Until that point during he evaluation months,
go to the Super Bowl. Look it up. I went
this morning and looked at clips. Found four different shows
of Dion Sanders with arrogance, hubrist confidence saying hey, it's
(03:12):
gonna be on our terms. There are teams he will
not be playing for now time out. He wasn't directing
that at Andy Reid and the Chiefs, Sean McDermott in
the Bills. He wasn't directing that at well run teams
with star quarterbacks. He was specifically directing that at the
seven or eight teams. And that's about the only teams
(03:34):
that need a quarterback. Seven or eight teams that needed
a quarterback, many of them struggling franchises, and he in
interview after interview publicly was going out saying again with
great confidence, I know the game, I know what's behind
the curtain. We're not going to play for certain teams. Okay,
(03:56):
So Dour's not that great for a prospect. This class
quarterback class is so weak that cam Ward is in
line with bow Nicks. Okay, bow Knicks went to the Broncos.
You want to know who was drafted ahead of him,
Lots of people, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy,
(04:19):
Michael Pennix. Okay, So Shadur Sanders as a prospect is
below and many people believe far below cam Ward. Many
believe he's also behind Jackson Dark the Giants did. Whether
you agree with that or not This is not a
(04:40):
John Ilway, this is not an Andrew Luck, this is
not even a Caleb Williams prospect where you're going to
overlook some stuff, right, And so just let's go back
to this. Chaudeur is a prospect. He's going to be
an employee of a business. And your dad is saying
(05:03):
to here are teams we will not play for. And
that's directed many of the teams that were interested. Wasn't
directed at the best teams in the league. And nobody
wants to just note that, acknowledge that mention that you
know I've said on my show before. Quarterback Dad has
become Pageant mom where the heart is in the right place.
(05:27):
But sometimes they do a disservice to their kids. We
saw this with Nico Iamaliava, the quarterback for Tennessee. Great program.
Dad stepped in. Son didn't show up to a spring practice.
We're out of here, and he had no market. UCLA
has one of the smallest nils in the Big Ten.
(05:47):
The kid reportedly took a pay cut to live in
a much more expensive city and go to a much
less storied football program. Quarterback Dad, so college football sent
message it wasn't collusion people weren't on the phone, and
this is not collusion. Remember, only seven or eight teams
needed a quarterback, and I could argue only two teams
(06:08):
needed a starting quarterback, Tennessee and Pittsburgh unless the Steelers
have some Aaron Rodgers deal agreed to. But I understand
people being turned off, and then this has to be
acknowledged too, as people at these networks doing the draft
are not mentioning this. He not only interviewed poorly. Todd
(06:34):
McShay on his podcast with a Ringer acknowledged he named
a name. Brian Dabele brought him in. Shadur Sanders wasn't
prepared on the whiteboard when he called him out. Sanders
didn't take it well. So you may not like that.
There was anonymous coaches saying it was the worst interview ever.
I can understand if you don't like that. That feels
(06:55):
a little harsh. I get that. However, that doesn't make
it untrue. There are multiple reports now, multiple teams that
did not feel that Shadur was engaged, that Shador made
people feel small. It's okay to mention that stuff. So again,
(07:18):
the greater the prospect, the more flaws you can have.
And quarterbacks different. You know, throughout the years, I talk
to a lot of people in the league. Of all
the sports I cover, I have far more NFL sources,
mostly because that's your favorite sport and it drives a number.
But when I talk to scouts and executives about football players,
(07:40):
they talk about skill and talent and toughness. When I
talk to executives about quarterbacks, the conversation changes. It's about
leadership and focus, the ability to cognitively get up to
speed read a defense. Totally different conversation. Everything's different for quarterbacks.
That's why I was so tough on Johnny Manzellen Baker
(08:00):
Mayfield on maturity. I didn't care if they were a
Mike linebacker, a right guard. When you're a quarterback, the
conversation changes. You know, you need a lot of things
from a quarterback that you don't need from other players. Maturity, focus,
what really matters. You have to love football. I've been
critical of Trevor Lawrence, who has said before football doesn't
(08:21):
define me. Well. People are looking for quarterbacks or football
defines them. They want you to be obsessed, They want
you to be Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Patrick
Malmes I'm sorry they do. I didn't make the rules up,
so I just thought it's a bit disingenuous to not
mention the fact that football dad Dion was setting parameters
(08:41):
up directed at the teams that were going to draft
his son, which I think was a big turn off.
You know, I've had NFL people say this before. We're
not the NBA and we don't do load management. Like
it's like no, no, NBA's got its own culture. That's
not our culture. And college football set that message to
Nico Iamaliava and I think some of this was, hey, man, listen,
(09:08):
no parameters. You got to interview better. And I didn't
think I said this on the air Friday. I didn't
love you know, your draft room with legendary posted all
over it, A little cringey the New York Giant cleats
little cringey. Not the end of the world, not everything,
little something. But you know, you have to be like
(09:32):
when people are texting me that are not in football
or don't cover football, and they're sending legitimate and very
obvious questions about the Dion comments, I think it needs
to be talked about that he did not do his
son any favors. Now Dion did in March finally either
(09:54):
acknowledge or infer that his son would be be okay
being drafted by anybody. To me, a lot of the
damage had been done in January and February. In the
Super Bowl week in early March, a lot of people
were turned off. So I think that's part of it.
I think there are messages being sent. It's not collusion.
I mean, if Pete Carroll and Mike Tomlin both pass
(10:17):
on him, Tomlin needs a starter and Pete could use
a backup. They are both player friendly. They have both
been coaches willing to draft players where there's a little
bit of noise around him, and they passed the Scheeduur stuff. Obviously,
the Dion stuff obviously turned off some people. And I've
(10:38):
said this that all this stuff's going to be tricky.
You got college quarterbacks now come in and they've made
five or six million dollars, and sometimes you know, you
just got to be humble in those interviews. You may
not respect that assistant coach, it may be a team
that's not going to draft you, but a little humility, Humility,
(10:58):
too much humility is ever a bad thing, especially when
you're young and you're a potential employee, and you're talking
to a potential employer. Err on the side of humility
is not a bad thing. As far as the Cleveland
Brown's drafting him, it doesn't bother me. I mean, their
quarterback room's a mess. Their takeaway is, hey, Dylan Gabriel
should or Sanders go compete. By the way, when running
(11:21):
backs come to camp and they're drafted, there's nine running
backs there. I mean, you don't think in camp there's
not nine running backs. There's not eleven linebackers, there's not
fourteen offensive linemen. Compete. You know, it's rare. You usually
have like three quarterbacks. But if you have five, who cares?
Joe Flacco, Deshaun Watson, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, should or Sanders?
Who cares? You don't have a star. If you don't
(11:44):
have a star, go compete. I mean that's that every
other position is asked to compete. It's okay. Occasionally, if
an NFL team says, you know, we're gonna draft a
couple quarterbacks, neither are great prospects, we think they're okay.
Peter Schreeger brought up something I thought was kind of interesting.
Former Fox employee now with the ESPN and a friend.
I thought Schreeger brought up something that was kind of interesting.
(12:04):
He said, you know, Dion has worked for you know
so many people in the media that nobody wanted to
come out during the process and and and be critical
of of not Dan, but be critical of Shadeur because
you know they know Dion, and so maybe that he
was over hyped by all of us in the media. Now,
I think it's interesting. I will say this. I thought
he was a good prospect. I can remember when Deshaun
(12:25):
Watson came out of Clemson. I didn't like I didn't
think he was that accurate of a quarterback. I thought
he's a great athlete, but I said he's a B prospect.
You know, he had some a moments, but you know,
a lot of a lot of people I thought Deshaun
Watson was a bit over hyped, but he'd be good.
I didn't get Miss Trubisky at all. I didn't get
Zach Wilson at all. I didn't get Daniel Jones at all.
I thought Sam Darnold was really really good. He proved
(12:47):
it last year, but it took a while. I liked
Schador Standers I think he's a pocket quarterback who moves
well enough. I think he's really really accurate. I think
some of the stuff, holding the ball too long, you
can coach a guy out of that. But he's not
a great prospect. And it's just like in life. If
you're not a great prospect interviewing for any job, you
probably shouldn't set up parameters or hey, we're going to
(13:09):
do it. And it's dad was leading the way on this,
but you go do the homework on that. Nobody wanted
to talk about that. It's not great, and football is
very protective and very tribal about its culture. It does
not want to be baseball and give ten year contracts.
Why would it. It's a more popular sport. It doesn't
want to be basketball, where players run the sport load management.
(13:32):
It doesn't want to be that. Okay, Football's culture, the
brotherhood of it. It's family. All they're marketing. It's family.
It matters to them a lot, and they have every
right to be prideful and protective of it. You know,
they have every right to be prideful. Every sport has
a different culture. Golf's got a different one than Nascar.
(13:54):
You know, Gymnastics has a different one than college baseball.
It's fine, but he's got a different culture. But football
is not going to let dads tell them what to do.
And I don't know Dion Sanders. He's got a healthy
self confidence and in this instance, I do not think
(14:15):
he helped his son. And the interest thing just to
throw out there that that this has been talked about
for years. Years ago, Bill Parcells was famous for saying
he doesn't want to draft celebrity quarterbacks. But I think
that's impossible. Now they're just that the nil. The games
are on TV, more games are on TV than ever,
So college quarterbacks, if they play for big programs, are
going to be a little bit arch Manning is a
(14:37):
celebrity and he didn't even start last year. So but
there is something, There is some truth in this. You
don't want your backup quarterback to be a celebrity. Prime
example Tim Tebow. Jets. Mark Sanchez has acknowledged publicly it
was a mess. You're either believe in Tim Tebow. I didn't,
but you either believe in Tim Tebow's a franchise quarterback.
He don't bring a celebrity backup in and and then,
(14:59):
and the the media hovers in and all the questions
are about t Bow. You don't want that. I mean,
I think it's funny that the media is demanding you
have to draft Shoeddever Sanders, and then the media, if
he's a backup, is going to descend on an organization
and they're only going to ask about Shodro Sanders, which
is what everybody's trying to avoid. That's why you don't
want celebrity quarterbacks. Remember when Cam Newton went to New
England for a year, had a decent year with Bill Belichick.
(15:21):
Then they draft Mac Jones, and the minute Mac Jones
beats out Cam Newton, Belichick lets Cam go because he
doesn't think Cam as a celebrity, you know, a very
famous backup quarterbacks probably the best thing hovering over Mac Jones.
And so if you like Schador as a starter, and
I thought Pittsburgh should draft him in the first round,
(15:41):
I wouldn't had a problem if Cleveland drafted him or Pittsburgh.
You know, I think he's a very accurate kid that
moves well. I think he's a franchise quarterback. I could
be wrong, but him as a backup is really interesting.
I mean, made six million dollars, nil, the dad thing,
the family name. You bring him into a camp as
a backup, and especially if you have a young quarterback
(16:04):
or a you know, a situation where you know you're
trying to make sure and ensure your starting quarterback has confidence.
You're devoted to him, you know he's the guy. You're
building him up. You bring insuers a backup, and that
could be a bit of a mess, right. That's the
celebrity backup quarterback. A lot of teams don't want that.
I always used to say, you want your backup quarterback
(16:24):
to be able to put a baseball hat on and
a pair of sunglasses, walk through the local mall and
nobody knows who he is. That's a perfect backup quarterback,
a team guy. So you know, once shud started falling,
my take is, well, this is already going to be interesting.
Like where can he be a backup quarterback? It'd have
to be a really secure, older starting quarterback. You know
(16:47):
you're not going to do it if you have a
young quarterback. I thought Seattle might consider it, but Jalen Milroll,
his temperament and his brand is more in line with
what a backup is. Super humble, didn't hear from his
parents exceptional athletic ability, not ready to start, sit behind
Sam Darnold for two years. That makes a lot of sense.
(17:09):
I think Shadour is ready to start fairly soon, maybe
by Thanksgiving. But there's just stuff. There's a little bit
of noise, and that's tough on backup quarterbacks. So once
the teams that need a starter, Tennessee drafted a quarterback
and Pittsburgh passed, how many teams needed a starting quarterback?
(17:32):
So I'm listen. I think Shadeur, my take, can beat
out all these guys in Cleveland. I mean, Deshaun's done.
Can he Pickett? Forget it? He's better than Dylan Gabriel.
Flacco probably wins the job until Thanksgiving, but I wouldn't
be shocked if Shit gets a lot of reps later
in the season. I hope, so it would be fun
to watch. I want to watch him. But you know,
going back to my back, my first point is quarterback
(17:54):
dad is becoming pageant mom where the intentions are good,
but sometimes I think you hurt the kid. And I
just think those comments at the super Bowl and you
know we're going to dictate terms and there's places I'm
not going to let them. Gosh, they don't like that
at all. I don't like that at all. The volume
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Speaker 1 (01:40):
All Right, I just thought so many people were talking
about shador standers falling in the draft to the Cleveland Browns.
Just a couple of things that I've been ruminating on
for the last day. I understand that Dion Sanders worked
at multiple TV Networks New York to I think at
CBS NFL network, I understand that a lot of people
(02:02):
at that NFL network building know Dion, But it is
our job as broadcasters to cut through that and be
honest with the audience. And I'm not going to call
out anybody individually, but I thought it was really strange
that all the draft coverage that I saw, as everybody
was shocked, dismayed that Shador Sanders had fallen in the draft,
(02:26):
nobody said even mentioned that maybe Dad didn't help him out.
I know, I know a lot of people know Deon
Sanders and like him. But go back to January, go
back to the Super Bowl week when Dion is on
multiple shows. It wasn't until mid March when Dion probably
(02:51):
somebody got into his ear or maybe he came to
his senses where Dion Sanders said, Okay, my son can
be drafted by anybody. Until that point during he evaluation months,
go to the Super Bowl. Look it up. I went
this morning and looked at clips. Found four different shows
of Dion Sanders with arrogance, hubrist confidence saying hey, it's
(03:12):
gonna be on our terms. There are teams he will
not be playing for now time out. He wasn't directing
that at Andy Reid and the Chiefs, Sean McDermott in
the Bills. He wasn't directing that at well run teams
with star quarterbacks. He was specifically directing that at the
seven or eight teams. And that's about the only teams
(03:34):
that need a quarterback. Seven or eight teams that needed
a quarterback, many of them struggling franchises, and he in
interview after interview publicly was going out saying again with
great confidence, I know the game, I know what's behind
the curtain. We're not going to play for certain teams. Okay,
(03:56):
So Dour's not that great for a prospect. This class
quarterback class is so weak that cam Ward is in
line with bow Nicks. Okay, bow Knicks went to the Broncos.
You want to know who was drafted ahead of him,
Lots of people, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, JJ McCarthy,
(04:19):
Michael Pennix. Okay, So Shadur Sanders as a prospect is
below and many people believe far below cam Ward. Many
believe he's also behind Jackson Dark the Giants did. Whether
you agree with that or not This is not a
(04:40):
John Ilway, this is not an Andrew Luck, this is
not even a Caleb Williams prospect where you're going to
overlook some stuff, right, And so just let's go back
to this. Chaudeur is a prospect. He's going to be
an employee of a business. And your dad is saying
(05:03):
to here are teams we will not play for. And
that's directed many of the teams that were interested. Wasn't
directed at the best teams in the league. And nobody
wants to just note that, acknowledge that mention that you
know I've said on my show before. Quarterback Dad has
become Pageant mom where the heart is in the right place.
(05:27):
But sometimes they do a disservice to their kids. We
saw this with Nico Iamaliava, the quarterback for Tennessee. Great program.
Dad stepped in. Son didn't show up to a spring practice.
We're out of here, and he had no market. UCLA
has one of the smallest nils in the Big Ten.
(05:47):
The kid reportedly took a pay cut to live in
a much more expensive city and go to a much
less storied football program. Quarterback Dad, so college football sent
message it wasn't collusion people weren't on the phone, and
this is not collusion. Remember, only seven or eight teams
needed a quarterback, and I could argue only two teams
(06:08):
needed a starting quarterback, Tennessee and Pittsburgh unless the Steelers
have some Aaron Rodgers deal agreed to. But I understand
people being turned off, and then this has to be
acknowledged too, as people at these networks doing the draft
are not mentioning this. He not only interviewed poorly. Todd
(06:34):
McShay on his podcast with a Ringer acknowledged he named
a name. Brian Dabele brought him in. Shadur Sanders wasn't
prepared on the whiteboard when he called him out. Sanders
didn't take it well. So you may not like that.
There was anonymous coaches saying it was the worst interview ever.
I can understand if you don't like that. That feels
(06:55):
a little harsh. I get that. However, that doesn't make
it untrue. There are multiple reports now, multiple teams that
did not feel that Shadur was engaged, that Shador made
people feel small. It's okay to mention that stuff. So again,
(07:18):
the greater the prospect, the more flaws you can have.
And quarterbacks different. You know, throughout the years, I talk
to a lot of people in the league. Of all
the sports I cover, I have far more NFL sources,
mostly because that's your favorite sport and it drives a number.
But when I talk to scouts and executives about football players,
(07:40):
they talk about skill and talent and toughness. When I
talk to executives about quarterbacks, the conversation changes. It's about
leadership and focus, the ability to cognitively get up to
speed read a defense. Totally different conversation. Everything's different for quarterbacks.
That's why I was so tough on Johnny Manzellen Baker
(08:00):
Mayfield on maturity. I didn't care if they were a
Mike linebacker, a right guard. When you're a quarterback, the
conversation changes. You know, you need a lot of things
from a quarterback that you don't need from other players. Maturity, focus,
what really matters. You have to love football. I've been
critical of Trevor Lawrence, who has said before football doesn't
(08:21):
define me. Well. People are looking for quarterbacks or football
defines them. They want you to be obsessed, They want
you to be Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and Patrick
Malmes I'm sorry they do. I didn't make the rules up,
so I just thought it's a bit disingenuous to not
mention the fact that football dad Dion was setting parameters
(08:41):
up directed at the teams that were going to draft
his son, which I think was a big turn off.
You know, I've had NFL people say this before. We're
not the NBA and we don't do load management. Like
it's like no, no, NBA's got its own culture. That's
not our culture. And college football set that message to
Nico Iamaliava and I think some of this was, hey, man, listen,
(09:08):
no parameters. You got to interview better. And I didn't
think I said this on the air Friday. I didn't
love you know, your draft room with legendary posted all
over it, A little cringey the New York Giant cleats
little cringey. Not the end of the world, not everything,
little something. But you know, you have to be like
(09:32):
when people are texting me that are not in football
or don't cover football, and they're sending legitimate and very
obvious questions about the Dion comments, I think it needs
to be talked about that he did not do his
son any favors. Now Dion did in March finally either
(09:54):
acknowledge or infer that his son would be be okay
being drafted by anybody. To me, a lot of the
damage had been done in January and February. In the
Super Bowl week in early March, a lot of people
were turned off. So I think that's part of it.
I think there are messages being sent. It's not collusion.
I mean, if Pete Carroll and Mike Tomlin both pass
(10:17):
on him, Tomlin needs a starter and Pete could use
a backup. They are both player friendly. They have both
been coaches willing to draft players where there's a little
bit of noise around him, and they passed the Scheeduur stuff. Obviously,
the Dion stuff obviously turned off some people. And I've
(10:38):
said this that all this stuff's going to be tricky.
You got college quarterbacks now come in and they've made
five or six million dollars, and sometimes you know, you
just got to be humble in those interviews. You may
not respect that assistant coach, it may be a team
that's not going to draft you, but a little humility, Humility,
(10:58):
too much humility is ever a bad thing, especially when
you're young and you're a potential employee, and you're talking
to a potential employer. Err on the side of humility
is not a bad thing. As far as the Cleveland
Brown's drafting him, it doesn't bother me. I mean, their
quarterback room's a mess. Their takeaway is, hey, Dylan Gabriel
should or Sanders go compete. By the way, when running
(11:21):
backs come to camp and they're drafted, there's nine running
backs there. I mean, you don't think in camp there's
not nine running backs. There's not eleven linebackers, there's not
fourteen offensive linemen. Compete. You know, it's rare. You usually
have like three quarterbacks. But if you have five, who cares?
Joe Flacco, Deshaun Watson, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, should or Sanders?
Who cares? You don't have a star. If you don't
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have a star, go compete. I mean that's that every
other position is asked to compete. It's okay. Occasionally, if
an NFL team says, you know, we're gonna draft a
couple quarterbacks, neither are great prospects, we think they're okay.
Peter Schreeger brought up something I thought was kind of interesting.
Former Fox employee now with the ESPN and a friend.
I thought Schreeger brought up something that was kind of interesting.
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He said, you know, Dion has worked for you know
so many people in the media that nobody wanted to
come out during the process and and and be critical
of of not Dan, but be critical of Shadeur because
you know they know Dion, and so maybe that he
was over hyped by all of us in the media. Now,
I think it's interesting. I will say this. I thought
he was a good prospect. I can remember when Deshaun
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Watson came out of Clemson. I didn't like I didn't
think he was that accurate of a quarterback. I thought
he's a great athlete, but I said he's a B prospect.
You know, he had some a moments, but you know,
a lot of a lot of people I thought Deshaun
Watson was a bit over hyped, but he'd be good.
I didn't get Miss Trubisky at all. I didn't get
Zach Wilson at all. I didn't get Daniel Jones at all.
I thought Sam Darnold was really really good. He proved
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it last year, but it took a while. I liked
Schador Standers I think he's a pocket quarterback who moves
well enough. I think he's really really accurate. I think
some of the stuff, holding the ball too long, you
can coach a guy out of that. But he's not
a great prospect. And it's just like in life. If
you're not a great prospect interviewing for any job, you
probably shouldn't set up parameters or hey, we're going to
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do it. And it's dad was leading the way on this,
but you go do the homework on that. Nobody wanted
to talk about that. It's not great, and football is
very protective and very tribal about its culture. It does
not want to be baseball and give ten year contracts.
Why would it. It's a more popular sport. It doesn't
want to be basketball, where players run the sport load management.
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It doesn't want to be that. Okay, Football's culture, the
brotherhood of it. It's family. All they're marketing. It's family.
It matters to them a lot, and they have every
right to be prideful and protective of it. You know,
they have every right to be prideful. Every sport has
a different culture. Golf's got a different one than Nascar.
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You know, Gymnastics has a different one than college baseball.
It's fine, but he's got a different culture. But football
is not going to let dads tell them what to do.
And I don't know Dion Sanders. He's got a healthy
self confidence and in this instance, I do not think
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he helped his son. And the interest thing just to
throw out there that that this has been talked about
for years. Years ago, Bill Parcells was famous for saying
he doesn't want to draft celebrity quarterbacks. But I think
that's impossible. Now they're just that the nil. The games
are on TV, more games are on TV than ever,
So college quarterbacks, if they play for big programs, are
going to be a little bit arch Manning is a
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celebrity and he didn't even start last year. So but
there is something, There is some truth in this. You
don't want your backup quarterback to be a celebrity. Prime
example Tim Tebow. Jets. Mark Sanchez has acknowledged publicly it
was a mess. You're either believe in Tim Tebow. I didn't,
but you either believe in Tim Tebow's a franchise quarterback.
He don't bring a celebrity backup in and and then,
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and the the media hovers in and all the questions
are about t Bow. You don't want that. I mean,
I think it's funny that the media is demanding you
have to draft Shoeddever Sanders, and then the media, if
he's a backup, is going to descend on an organization
and they're only going to ask about Shodro Sanders, which
is what everybody's trying to avoid. That's why you don't
want celebrity quarterbacks. Remember when Cam Newton went to New
England for a year, had a decent year with Bill Belichick.
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Then they draft Mac Jones, and the minute Mac Jones
beats out Cam Newton, Belichick lets Cam go because he
doesn't think Cam as a celebrity, you know, a very
famous backup quarterbacks probably the best thing hovering over Mac Jones.
And so if you like Schador as a starter, and
I thought Pittsburgh should draft him in the first round,
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I wouldn't had a problem if Cleveland drafted him or Pittsburgh.
You know, I think he's a very accurate kid that
moves well. I think he's a franchise quarterback. I could
be wrong, but him as a backup is really interesting.
I mean, made six million dollars, nil, the dad thing,
the family name. You bring him into a camp as
a backup, and especially if you have a young quarterback
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or a you know, a situation where you know you're
trying to make sure and ensure your starting quarterback has confidence.
You're devoted to him, you know he's the guy. You're
building him up. You bring insuers a backup, and that
could be a bit of a mess, right. That's the
celebrity backup quarterback. A lot of teams don't want that.
I always used to say, you want your backup quarterback
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to be able to put a baseball hat on and
a pair of sunglasses, walk through the local mall and
nobody knows who he is. That's a perfect backup quarterback,
a team guy. So you know, once shud started falling,
my take is, well, this is already going to be interesting.
Like where can he be a backup quarterback? It'd have
to be a really secure, older starting quarterback. You know
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you're not going to do it if you have a
young quarterback. I thought Seattle might consider it, but Jalen Milroll,
his temperament and his brand is more in line with
what a backup is. Super humble, didn't hear from his
parents exceptional athletic ability, not ready to start, sit behind
Sam Darnold for two years. That makes a lot of sense.
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I think Shadour is ready to start fairly soon, maybe
by Thanksgiving. But there's just stuff. There's a little bit
of noise, and that's tough on backup quarterbacks. So once
the teams that need a starter, Tennessee drafted a quarterback
and Pittsburgh passed, how many teams needed a starting quarterback?
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So I'm listen. I think Shadeur, my take, can beat
out all these guys in Cleveland. I mean, Deshaun's done.
Can he Pickett? Forget it? He's better than Dylan Gabriel.
Flacco probably wins the job until Thanksgiving, but I wouldn't
be shocked if Shit gets a lot of reps later
in the season. I hope, so it would be fun
to watch. I want to watch him. But you know,
going back to my back, my first point is quarterback
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dad is becoming pageant mom where the intentions are good,
but sometimes I think you hurt the kid. And I
just think those comments at the super Bowl and you
know we're going to dictate terms and there's places I'm
not going to let them. Gosh, they don't like that
at all. I don't like that at all. The volume
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