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October 4, 2024 61 mins

Who will step up in KC? How concerned should we be about the Bills and Cardinals? Are we sitting our Dolphins until the QB mess is resolved? Ryan Wormeli, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Derek Brown answer these burning questions. Plus, Colin Cowherd joins the show and gives his fantasy football over/under picks for stars like Jayden Daniels, Kyren Williams and more. Don't miss this crucial fantasy football advice ahead of Week 5’s matchups!

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Intro - 0:00:00
FantasyPros Multi League Assistant - 0:02:16
The Fantasy Over/Under Challenge with Colin Cowherd - 0:02:43
Jayden Daniels - 0:03:31
Jordan Love - 0:04:58
Kyren Williams - 0:06:29
Amari Cooper - 0:07:21
Zay Flowers - 0:08:25
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - 0:09:14
Is Braelon Allen a Fantasy Starter Even With a Healthy Breece Hall? - 0:10:37
Can Cleveland Slow Down Washington? - 0:16:50
Who Will Be Better: Ravens Rushing vs Bengals, or Bengals Passing vs Ravens? - 0:22:18
DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:26:45
Any Concerns in Buffalo After a Blowout Loss? - 0:28:33
Do We Need to Sit Miami Players Until the QB Situation Improves? - 0:31:40
Are We Ranking D’Andre Swift or Roschon Johnson Aggressively Against a Bad Carolina Defense? - 0:35:07
Gametime - 0:41:37
What’s Our Panic Level on the Arizona Offense? - 0:43:14
How Much Do We Like Dontayvion Wicks, Romeo Doubs, and Tucker Kraft with Jordan Love and Christian Watson Out? - 0:46:23
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How High Are We Ranking Justin Fields This Week? - 0:52:23
Who Will Step Up In Rashee Rice’s Absence? - 0:54:55
Outro - 1:00:25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley,
joining this Friday morning by Derek Browd and by Pat
Fitz Morris Fellas. It's the Week five Key Questions Show.
We'll be running through the biggest questions of the week
in fantasy breaking down some of these matchups in what
looks like a pretty fun Week five slate. Just get
some quick thoughts on Thursday Night football from last night.

(00:22):
Fun game, but debro maybe didn't pan out the way
you were hoping with some of your bets.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh no, it was a horrible night for prop betting,
Like everybody hit the line, couldn't hit the overs. But
can we say any concerns for Drake London were a
little bit premature. If you wanted the Drake London arrival
game as a wide receiver one rest of season, we

(00:48):
got it, dude. I mean he was fantastic last night.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Fits Was this.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
The Drake London game or was it the Darnell Mooney game?
Or was it the Kirk Cousins game? Given their stat lines, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Man, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I was below consensus with my ranking of Drake London,
but above my consensus or above the consensus on my
ranking of Darnell Mooney, so I guess it evened out.
But yeah, man, I was down in the dumps after
the Brewers wrote another sad chapter in their tortured playoff history.
But the finish to that game sort of lifted my
spirits a little bit. That was that was the fun

(01:22):
Thursday night game we needed.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fits.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
We have a alliance this week about not talking about
playoff baseball given the way our teams perform, so we're
not gonna reference anything else in regards to that. Yeah, yeah,
I mean the other you know, obviously, like I said,
Kirk Cousins, you know, five hundred passing yards for touchdowns,
Drake London De Ro mentioned Darnell Mooney was really good.

(01:46):
Kyle Pitts relative to what he's been this year. Seven catches,
eighty eight yards. You know, that's maybe some signs of life.
So we'll see how that looks to moving forward. Very
very fun game, you know, Shoed White ten for seventy two.
On the other side, baker Field just one hundred and
eighty yards with three touchdowns, no picks, and Mike Evans
did what he does at the end zone a couple

(02:07):
of times.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
He is amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Just a quick reminder for everyone that all of our
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(02:31):
making your path to victory clearer and easier. Dive in
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Playbook or on the Fantasy Football My Playbook app. Before
we jump into this week's questions, let's check in with
Colin Coward and his over under picks for the Fantasy
Over Under Challenge. Time now for the Week five Over

(02:54):
Under Challenge. As always, this segment is presented by DraftKings,
and as always, I'm joined by Coward to talk through
some of our favorite player picks for this week's slate.
Second straight week, I've got to give a shout out
to my colleague and Fantasy Pros analyst Andrew Erickson still
number one atop the leader board a thirty and eight
record on his picks this season. He is absolutely crushing it.

(03:16):
Colin and I will continue to try to do our
best to keep up with ericson. As a reminder, everyone
listening can play along with our over under challenge and
try to not only beat Colin, but win some cool
prizes by heading to Fantasypros dot com Slash challenge. All right,
let's start, as always with the quarterbacks. Jayden Daniels going
up against the Browns. Debro was on your show, Colin
in August, my other colleague at Fantasy Pros. He was

(03:38):
all over Jayden Daniels. He is looking really good for
that prediction now. He was all over him for Offensive
Rookie of the Year. He was all over him as
a fantasy quarterback. He is number one on DraftKings twenty
three point seven fantasy points per game this season. Like
I mentioned, now, facing that Browns defense, they are only
allowing a fifty eight point seven percent completion percentage against.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
What do you expect out of Daniels this week?

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Well, Miles Garret, it's banged up and the Browns offensive
line is still a mess, so Jaden Daniels is going
to get some possessions. I'm not so sure. If Deshaun
Watson isn't just washed. Nick Chubb comes back, that's good.
But until I see otherwise, I think Jaden Daniels is
going to be effective. I do think there'll be regression
at some point. I was shocked how they blew out Arizona.

(04:20):
I'm gonna ride Jaden Daniels again until I see otherwise.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
On that point, like I mentioned that Deebro had kind
of talked about with you about that offensive rookie of
the year just Daniels in general.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
How impressed are you so far in this first month.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I know you mentioned regression likely coming at some point,
but I mean, he certainly is the favorite right now.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah, and I'm also surprised by their run game. We
didn't look at this as an elite offensive line, but
it absolutely has been. And you're seeing three and four
and five yards gained by running backs for Washington before contact,
so that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
The other quarterback I wanted to hit on this week,
Jordan Love going up against the Rams. It took a
little bit for him to get going against Minnesota Obviously
they are good defense, and obviously coming back from the
knee injury, he ended up having a huge Fantasy day
QB two on the week on DraftKings. You know, three
hundred and eighty nine passing yards for touchdowns, they'd have
the three interceptions. Like I mentioned, kind of a slow
start there going up against the Rams defense that is gettable.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
What do you think about Love this week?

Speaker 6 (05:21):
Well, you know, it's one of these things. What do
I believe In the second half against Minnesota? I thought
they looked really, really strong. Now Christian Watson's hurt, some
of their young receivers haven't played up to snuff.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I think the Rams defense is talented but super young.
The last couple of years, they've spent their draft capital
top of the board on a lot of defensive players.
So the wise guys like the Rams this week. I
think it's fairly high scoring. I think Jordan Love will
play well. I don't think he'll have a great afternoon.
It will be a home game for the Packers, even
though it's at sofi A stadium. Probably a sixty five

(05:57):
to thirty five pack or split. I think Jordan Love
will be fine, but I don't think he'll be exceptional.
I think it's going to be a fairly low scoring,
competitive game in the twenty six to twenty three area.
Both teams doing okay. I think the Rams defense is
better than people think. I think the team the Rams
has simply struggled with injuries and red zone scoring. So

(06:20):
I think Jordan Love will be fine, but I don't
think the receiving corps has grown like I thought it
would so far.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Let's go to the other side of this game, as
we moved to the running backs. Kiron Williams obviously going
against the Packers RB four on DraftKings this season seventeen
point four fantasy points per game, obviously gets a lot
of volume, got some home run potential. He was tied
for RB one in Week three with Saquan during that week.
What do you make out of what we've seen from
him this season so far and what do you expect

(06:48):
that of him against the Packers.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Well, I know McVay loves him. I think he's a
really unique special talent. And with no Pukah or Cooper
Cup and for that matter, Tyler Higby the end, who
hasn't played yet this year, I think they're going to
be more Kyron Williams reliant. Blake Korum is talented, but
he's a rookie, so I think I think the most

(07:10):
talented player outside of Stafford on this team is Williams,
and I think he's going to eat a little bit
against Green Bay. I think the Rams will probably play
pretty well on the spot.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let's move to a few wide receivers here. Amari Cooper
going up against the Commanders. We've talked on these segments
already this season, Colin about how this defense is one
you want to attack through the air. Amari Cooper has
been very boom or busts so far this season, get
over twenty Fantasy points one week, a.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Few other busts in there. Do you think he'll have
a boom week against the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
I don't. He's almost felt disengaged this year. It's as
if he and Watson aren't particularly close. Again, the Browns
have major offensive line issues, so I'm not going to
put any big money on Cleveland receivers at this point.
I'll say it again, I'm not so sure the Browns

(08:00):
aren't trapped with a washed quarterback in Deshaun Watson. If
Kevin Stefanski an excellent coach can't elevate him past his
current playing level. I'm not sure there's much left for Watson.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
You always talk about, you know, the unstoppable force against
the immovable object, the Browns passing game against the Commander's
pass defense. It's the opposite. It's the stoppable force against
the very movable object. Another receiver I want to hit
on here is Zay Flowers going up against the Bengals
wide receiver forty six this season, just twenty three and
a half Fantasy points on the year, and a lot
of those came in a Week two loss to the Raiders.

(08:36):
He hasn't been amazing against the Bengals in the past,
and they've just been so good running the ball. And
why go away from Derrick Henry when it's worked so
well the last couple of weeks. Do you think that
we're going to see that again against Cincinnati out of
the Ravens.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
Yeah, it's almost as if we anointed Zay Flowers as
a one, and he's really probably a two. He is
a small receiver. As you know, increasingly they have more weapons.
I think Derrick Henry has shifted the focus off Zay Flowers.
I think this is a divisional game. He's never played

(09:09):
great against the Bengals. I don't think Zay Flowers has
a big Afternoon.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Last receiver here Jackson Smith and Jigba going up against
the Giants wide receiver fifty this season pretty similar to
Zay Flowers in that a lot of his fantasy points
came in just one week. Also Week two for him
in that game against the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Somebody who's really talented.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I mean, I loved him coming out as a prospect
in dynasty leagues and as a rookie in fantasy leagues,
and it's starting to feel more and more like maybe
JSN is just a really good possession receiver. I'm not
ready to entirely write him off, but yeah, what do
you think about him in this matchup?

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Well, I like the Seahawks in this game. I was
very impressed despite the fact they lost to the Lions.
They had thirty eight first downs. Clearly, Gino Smith and
DK Metcalf have a very strong bond. The over the
shoulder throws, the back shoulder throws, the timing routes. I
just don't think. I think Lockett and DK Metcalf are

(10:05):
the favorite sons of Gino Smith, and I like, you
feel like he's more possession than Superstar. I like the
Seahawks to win by about ten points. But in this spot,
I think DK Metcalf and Gino and I'll say this
Walker in that run game, I think that's where the
focus is for defensive coach Mike McDonald.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Thanks again for hopping on Colin.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Remember everybody to head to fantasypros dot com slash challenge
to play along all season long. All right, guys, let's
jump into question number one. I wanted to start with
the game that we have in London this week. It's
hard to believe we are already not only at the
Buys by the way, but we are also at the
London games. It's Jets at Vikings this week to kick

(10:49):
things off.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Across the pond.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Braylan Allen has outplayed Breese Hall in back to back games.
Probably too early to overreact to that small sample size,
but at what point is it no long longer to early?
Allen is clearly an elite backup and handcuff option, but
is he also a fantasy starter even when Hall is healthy?

Speaker 5 (11:07):
Fits I don't think he has swirm. I know it's
been a rough start. For bres Hall so far three
point one yards per carry. But hey man, it's gonna
be fine. Bris Hall Is He's twenty three. He's already
put together a very compelling body of work. So Breis
Hall investors should just chill out, do some yoga, poor

(11:28):
a stiff drink, whatever it takes to relax.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
He is not suddenly losing it. He's gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Look.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
I love Braylan Allen. I mean, he's a Wisconsin Badger
and a lot of fun to watch, but I think
he still basically just has handcuff value at this point,
not standalone value. As good as he's looked, he is
averaging eight point six half point PPR Fantasy points per game,
and that average is being propped up by an eighteen
point six point game in Week two. His point totals

(11:58):
in the other three games two point to eight point
three to five point one. And that's with Braylan Allen
running really well. Like for Alan to be fantasy relevant
on just eight to ten touches a game, he would
need to get the high leverage touches, namely goal line
carries and pass receptions. It's not really getting many of either.
He has seven receptions and he has only had one

(12:19):
red zone carry this season. You said it, Worm, Braylan Allen,
he is an elite backup, but I don't think he's
anything more than that right now, at least.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Deep brow what E think, I'll echo every single thing
that fits, he said, elite handcuff, not getting the red
zone snaps. Like even last week when Hall put up
a very disappointing stat line, he still had an eighty
three percent snap rate in the red zone. The thing
that I do want to highlight here, Worm, is yes,
I know people are freaking out of at breeze Hall.
If you can right now put out feelers for him

(12:52):
in every single league, And this is what I'm going
to tell everybody. He has a league winning stretch run schedule.
It is sickening how good it is. I just pulled
it up from week ten on. These are the run
defenses he faces people Arizona, Indy, Seattle. Any of those
scare you. Okay, let's add on Miami Jacksonville's a little

(13:14):
bit tough. Then in playoff time he gets the rams
and the bills in week sixteen, in week seventeen, that
is beyond juicy. So I'm not only preaching patients with
Breese Hall. Go out and trade for him today. This
offense has nowhere to go but up. They trade for
Devonte Adams. Aaron Rodgers looks better. This offensive line has

(13:37):
nowhere to go but up. They are legitimately the worst
offensive line in the NFL, generating not even one yard
before contact per attempt. For Breese Hall, you throw in
the schedule. People need to go test the waters and
trade for him everywhere they can.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So you basically answered the question I was going to ask,
which is I'm participating in fantasy bros is doing a
gue team league this year for the first and brisall
his team was cut last week and he's now available,
or was you know, going into waivers this week? And
he went for over five hundred dollars out of a
thousand dollars budget. And I was gonna ask you guys
thought that was acceptable, which it would be in a

(14:14):
vacuum when you're looking at where he was in draft
season versus compared to what we've seen. Deep broad sounds
like you think that was, you know, more than fair,
more than fair.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And now I probably would even have gone above that,
considering if you're able to ride it out. He's got
the type of schedule that brings you home to the
finish line.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, I was the one to get Brisaw by the way,
I was the only I was the only person to
bid over five hundred, and only one of the person's
even over four hundred, which no, I was surprised.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
If flex becomes a loud flex, I like it weren't.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, I just was surprised by it, honestly. So I
want to get your opinion on because I was like
a month ago, we were like this guy might be
the number one overall picking drafts, and kudos.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
For getting in for fifty percent. I would have gone
like sixty or sixty five.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So it just quick just quickly on Alan Deebrow, I
forget where did you have him when you were doing
your rookie rankings for the season. And has has what
we've seen this year adjusted to that? Because Fitz and
I did a Dynasty discord stages earlier this week and
we talked about how Braylen Allen for Fitz is like
a top fifteen I think maybe even top twelve Dynasty
running back in his eyes, just giving the age and

(15:15):
the performance we've seen early even sharing at backfield with
tall So I'm trying to remember where you had him, Debro.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I had him lower only because as a prospect. It
wasn't the fact that I didn't like his talent. It's
the Braileen Allen we saw and FITZI can chime in
on this too as well. The Brailean Allen we saw
in college and the Brailan Allen we're seeing in the NFL.
I think are not absolutely one to eighty different players.
His running style has changed though. He is being more physical.

(15:44):
He is getting downhill. He is using his size and
his strength, I think better than anything what he put
up on film in college. There was so many times
in college where you'd see Braylen Allen either get into
the open field or trying to string multiple moves together
to break tackles or to get to daylight. And you're like, dude,

(16:04):
you're not a five to ten two oh five like
guy who is going to basically juke people out of
their shoes. You're giant, You're huge, run people over Use
your size, get downhill, use your acceleration. We've seen that
more in the NFL. So I mean I've come around
on Breylan Allen because the Breanlan Allen that I saw

(16:25):
in college. I was hoping to see more of those
things in the NFL. But FITZI like, have you seen
a change in his running style?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
That everything you just mentioned, and he looks faster.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
I know some of these guys go through speed speed
training to get ready for the Combine and their pro days,
and it seems like whatever Braylan Allen might have picked
up in speed training has stuck because he looks a
lot faster than he did in Madison.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I agree, a lot faster.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Let's go to Browns at Commanders. The Commanders have been
the best offensive football, especially the last.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
The Browns, you know, were really defense last year, is
still you know, a strong defense in general, or at
least the defense we expect to be pretty good? Can
Cleveland slow down Washington or the Commanders players still basically
all elite, high level fantasy options this week, Debro.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I think you're looking at high end fantasy options like
you're you're starting Jane Daniels. I mean, he's the QB
two in total point or excuse maybe the QB one
in total points now, so you're starting him regardless of
the matchup, it does not matter. I think he's proven
enough and he should have proven enough in everybody's eyes.
But to the other guys, I mean, we don't know
if Brian Robertson Junior plays this week, but Austin Eckler

(17:35):
should be back. And if he's out there floating on waivers,
if somebody dropped him, or if you got him on
your team, he's worth playing this week. He is going
to be what I think is gonna be the lead
back if Brian Robinson Junior is out. You have a
Browns run defense that's allowed the seventh highest explosive run rate,
the second highest charge of the contact per attempt. So
Austin Eckler and we know he's going to play in

(17:56):
the passing games, I don't think you're going to see
a lot of Jeremy McNichols. So I wouldn't be chasing
that if I was anybody in leagues, especially deeper formats. So,
but the other guy that I do want to bring
up here because you did highlight the secondary worm, Terry McLaurin.
We give a ton of crap to Cliff Kingsbury, and
some of it rightfully, so about not moving wide receivers
around the formation. Cliff this week, Baby, you do you okay?

(18:20):
That I don't want to see. I do not want
to see McLaurin moving around the formation because where he
lines up and the fact that the Brown's corners are static,
they play sides. This is going to allow Terry McLaurin
to face and I'm going to say this with a
grain of salt, the weak link in the Cleveland Browns
secondary is Martin Emerson Junior. Terry McLaurin is going to

(18:44):
line up basically the almost doing the entire part of
the game seventy seven percent of his routes against Martin
Emerson Junior, who has allowed a sixty five percent catch
rate and a one to twenty point four passer rating
in his coverage. So while a lot of people could
look at the matchup and say I kind of down
on Terry McLaurin, I'm not. I think that he could
have a fantastic game because Emerson has been the one

(19:06):
corner if you want to point to anybody in this
Browns secondary where passing attacks have kind of picked on
a little bit this year. Yeah, Terry McLure can still
have a massive game here.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's what do you think? I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
The Commander's offense has been so I mean again, this
last couple of weeks so fun.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
They've punted like once the cross three weeks.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
They're really excelling at I mean, I liked jayde Daniels.
They are excelling at a level that I am blown
away by here for the first month of his career.
Do you expect you to continue here against Cleveland?

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, Commander's punter Tresway gets about as much exercise as
I do on an NFL Sunday, which isn't too much. Yeah,
this is gonna be a fun test for Jane Daniels
because the Commanders have so far faced the Cardinals, Bengals,
and Giants, all of whom are bottom twelve in defensive DVOA,
and the Buccaneers, who we just saw gave up five

(19:58):
thousand passing yards to Kirk cut So now they do
get Cleveland, the stiffest defensive test they've faced. The Browns
aren't that great in defensive DVOA either, I think they're
bottom half, but they have given up five point er
yards per play, which is top ten.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Like it's a good defense.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
And still though I mean you're playing Jayden Daniels, Like
I don't have a greatly diminished outlook for what Daniels
is going to do against a real defense.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I think he's going to do well. Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
As Debro pointed out, you're playing him Brian Robinson Junior
if he plays, and if not, I agree with Debro.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Austin Eckler. Fire him up.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
You know we'll see some Jeremy McNichols if Robinson doesn't play,
but Eckler would absolutely become at least flexworthy if not
RB two.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
By the way, fits, this isn't one of our key questions,
but just on the other side of this game, quickly,
Amari Cooper, is he going to take advantage of this
terrible commander's secondary?

Speaker 4 (20:54):
I think so. Deebro doesn't think so.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Like I bet the over on him on DraftKings had
forty nine and a half yards yesterday, and I know
the home road splits are always bad with him, or
at least have been since he joined the Browns. But man,
like this is a Washington can't cover anyone, and the
Browns are getting their starting tackles back. It looks like
Jedrick Wills and Jack Conklin, that's gonna help a lot.

(21:19):
Maybe give de Sehan Watson a little more time. Like
I know, Watson hasn't been good. I can't spin anything
that way, but maybe he's a little bit better with
improved pass protection.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Debro quickly, I saw you kind of shaking your head,
so you disagree.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I don't disagree about about Cooper being good. The only
thing that worries me about it is the coverage matchup,
because we've seen Washington run a lot of too high.
This is what got Marvin Harrison Junior. And what I
wrote up in the primer is that what teams do
versus single high and versus too high. And Cooper's target
share has dropped, He's still be getting fed a bunch
a bunch of volumes. So maybe that doesn't hold this

(21:56):
week considering the matchup, but if they hold tight considering
the cover matchup, I'm not as high on Cooper, but
I am higher on Jerry Judy versus too high, we've
seen his yards per route run go up, his first
read cheer bump to twenty three point three percent. So
while Fitz and I are a little bit on the
opposite sides as far as which Browns wide receiver goes off.
I think one of them does. I just think it's

(22:16):
Judy and not Cooper.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Let's go to Ravens at Bengals. Lots of really enticing
matchups in this one. I didn't want to kind of
highlight a specific player. I just want to get your
guys opinion on kind of the strength on weakness that
we're getting on both sides of the ball. We get
the Ravens rushing attack against the Bengals rush defense. That
is a huge advantage for the Ravens. But we also
get the Bengals passing attack against the Ravens passing defense,

(22:40):
which so far this season looks like a big advantage
to Cincinnati. So fits which of those do you expect
a bigger day out of the Ravens rushing game or
the Bengals passing game.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
So I don't think your Ravens have that bad a
pass defense for I know they've given up a lot
of yards so far, but that was kind of skewed
by the Dallas game. They are like nineteenth in opponent
passer rating, below average but not terrible. The Bengals run defense,
on the other hand, gave up one hundred and twenty
rushing yards and a touchdown to Ramandre Stevenson in week one,

(23:12):
gave up ninety rushing yards to Isaiah Piccheco in week two,
gave up touchdown runs to Brian Robinson, Junior, Austin Eckler
and Jane Daniels in week three, and gave up one
hundred and four rushing yards and a touchdown to Chewba
Hubbard in week four. Derreck Henry is gonna steam roll
this defense.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I definitely agree that Derek Henry's gonna steam roll this defense.
The thing I'll say about the Ravens pass defense is
I think they're better.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And there was some discussion about this in some.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Of like the national media shows this week coming off
of that Bills performance, where I think they're better suited
for a defense like the Bills where there's a lot
of options, but maybe not that one alpha in the
passing game. I worry about the current state of their secondary,
their ability to slow down at alpha, Like the way
we saw Rashi Rice playing before he got hurt in
that Week one game, you know, against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
He came out firing.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, the way we saw DeVante Adams and Brock
Bauers even kind of destroy them in week two. The
only alpha level receiver that hasn't torched the Ravens this
year is Seed Lamb, and even he I think that
was more he had a bad game than the Ravens
did some you know, any kind of special defense to
slow him down. So the Bengals have alpha's right, they
have Jamar Chase, who is as alpha as it gets,

(24:21):
and they have t Higgins He's now back on the field.
So that is what very specifically worries me. It's it's
not that I think the secondary is bad. I just
don't know that it's suited to slow down like an
elite receiver, which by the way, is very difficult for
most defenses to do. So that's more my concern in
terms of looking at that particular matchup. But I totally
agree that, like on the other side, like I just
don't see anyway the Bengals can can stop Dereck Henry.

(24:42):
It's this third straight great matchup against the terrible running defense,
and I'm expecting to see similar to what we saw
in weeks three and four.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Debro, how are you looking at this one?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
You're not stopping the Derrick Henry train. He's gonna carry
dudes with him into the second and third level defense.
I mean, he's he's been awesome to watch this year.
It's been so much fun. Man. He's fourth and explosive
run rate now, I don't think that's going down this week, man,
So I agree with you that. And as far as
the pat the Baltimore pass defense, I think what's very
telling is they've switched around their corner alignments and what

(25:14):
they've been doing on the back end. Kyle Hamilton has
subjectively been bad as far as a slot coverage guy,
so they took him off of that last week of
the week before maybe put Marlon Humphrey back into the slot,
put Nate Wiggins on the outside, which has really helped them.
So I think you continue to see that, although I
do kind of question are they going to move it

(25:35):
back considering are you worried about andre Yoshavas beating you
in the slot? Probably not, So I do think we
probably see Humphrey go back to the boundary this week.
So I do think that that Baltimore's secondary is better
than what they've shown so far this year. But if
I got to talk about like strength for his strength, hey,
nobody's stopping Derek Henry Man nobody.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, deebro our prediction of fifteen touchdowns this week that
we talked about all summer, it lay looks conservative at
this point.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I mean, I mean the over ten and a half
at plus money, how many rushing touchdowns does he have
right now?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I think he's got five five already and just narrowly
missed the sixth with that touchdown one yard line.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You love that.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, this matchup is so good that I when I
was looking at our expert consensus rankings the half a
few PR rankings, I did a double take that he
wasn't RB one, He's RB two and he's only behind
Jordan Mason, which is totally fair.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
But I was like, I mean, have him at RB
one for the week. Yeah, I got him at RB
one for the week.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean I would have him at RB one again.
I think it's reasonable to have a guy like Mason
ahead of him. But very very appealing matchup here for
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Speaker 2 (28:31):
Guys, let's get into that awesome bills at Texans matchup.
Buffalo obviously got the doors blown off them on Sunday
night in Baltimore. Deebro is still reeling from getting that
one wrong. It did just seem like a bad matchup
that just kind of got out of hand early on.
But I have to ask, and Deebrow will start with you,
are there any concerns whatsoever with the Bills after that one?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Not really. I mean again, I think it was things
got away from them very very quick. I mean, dude,
when when the game opens and Derek Henry breaks off
a eighty what was an eighty seven yard run on
the first eighty the longest history play of the game,
you already know things are maybe going to go sideways here.

(29:13):
So I think it was just a game that got
away from the Buffalo Bills. I'm not worried about Josh Allen.
I'm not worried about a lot of parts of this
passing attack or the offense just in general. Outside of like,
I don't know if Khalil Shakir plays this week, But again,
if you're in deeper formats, probably a good week to
fire up Curtis Samuel.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Din that's the same question, you know, I don't really
think there's any concerns with Buffalo but you kind of
have to ask after a shell acking like that, are
there any concerns or was it just a bad matchup?

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Here's one I think if you're a Bills fan, do
the Bills have enough pass catching firepower to play from
behind if.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
They need to?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
I mean they've got I like Khalil Chakuire quite a bit.
Dalton Kinkaid, very good pass catching tight end, not really
an explosive playmaker, but very good. Who else, Kean Coleman
work in progress, Curtis Samuel nice little Swiss army knife,
but not really a guy who's going to make plays

(30:13):
downfield for you, Mac Hollins, Marquez Valdez, scantling like that.
That's my question with this team because like when it
gets to be important games down the stretch, playoff games,
who do they turn to if they go down ten points,
fourteen points?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
The point it's a really good point. It's it's it
all sounds great and groovy about oh, we're just going
to find the open player, and until you get into
those moments and it's a great point, FITZI, where it's like, hey,
who's my go to? Who's the alpha that I lean
on when the chips are down to get open, to

(30:50):
win the matchups, to be the go to receiver. Well,
they don't have that anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Do you guys have a lean on betting this one?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, like I said, it's just a one point
spread and forty seven and a half is the total.
It started at forty six and a half and then
went up on DraftKings. Do you guys have a particular
play you.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Like, I'm not putting my money on it, but in
a couple of pools i'm in where I'm required to
make a pick, I'm taking the Taxans.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, I think I'll take the Texans. I think the
spread is right. If anything, I'd probably take the Texans
and take the under. F I'm forced to bet this game,
I think that you're more likely to see, you know,
if Buffalo is down Shakir and again their offense kind
of sputters again this week. We know Buffalo's defense is good.

(31:37):
I think the under is probably the way that I
most likely to play this.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Let's go to an AFC East Divisional matchup, Dolphins at Patriots.
We at least some of us thought that the high
level Dolphins players were somewhat QB proof for fantasy guys
like Tyreek Hill mine a Chan. Do we maybe need
to rethink that after what we saw in Week four
and start considering sitting You know, it's really hard to
see a kyle like Tyreek Hill, but do we need

(32:02):
to seriously consider it at least these Miami players until
the quarterback situation improves fits.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Oh man, it's not that I thought they weren't necessarily
bad QB proof. I did think they would be bad
QB resistant and so far not so resistant. Maybe it's
a mistake, but I still have a Chan and Tyreek
Hill ranked as starters. A Chan is my RB fourteen,

(32:30):
Tyreek is my wide receiver twenty one. The floor has
crumbled for both of these guys, though, like the floor
before we used to think maybe it was five or
six points. Now it's like one, two, three. But a
Chan and Tyreek and to a lesser extent, Jalen Wattle
two are still incredibly talented players with home run speed.

(32:53):
It hasn't happened yet, but even with a bad quarterback,
eventually someone's gonna hit on a big play, Like maybe
the Dolphins can spring a couple of big plays this
week against the Patriots. But yes, it's it's been pretty
bleak so far.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
There's an old Canadian sitcom called Corner Gas that I
used to love watching when I was younger, and in it,
these small town cops they save money and instead of
getting bulletproof vests, they get bullet resistant vests, and that
is you know, it makes me think of that when
you talk about them being quarterback resistant in Miami. In
the scene, the partner who like finds out about this

(33:29):
is like, this shirt is wrinkle resistant. It's got a
lot of wrinkles. So maybe not the smartest thing from them. Dero,
what do you think? QB proof, QB resistant? QB you
don't care.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
How are you approaching the Dolphins players.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I'm fine with sitting everybody on Miami right now. It
depends on what your options are. I've got Tyrek Hill
and Jim and Wattle both as wide receiver threes right now.
I've got Wattle actually ranked ahead of Tyreek. I think
he's gonna get shadowed by Christian Gonzalez. That is a
real thing. So plus, looking at the coverage matchup, I
kind of like Wattle a little bit more. Anyway. I've

(34:01):
got Devon ah Chan as RB eighteen right now. It's
been tough man. And I think the other thing that, like,
it's not just the quarterback stuff. The other thing that
that I guess we're not talking about enough too, is
the fact that Miami's offensive line is not playing well.
Devon ah Chan, as crazy as it sounds, is not
breaking tackles right now, not even close to like not

(34:24):
even at a good level, but not even at a
level to where he was even like sniffing the same
area code as last year. Where he's like it's not
just like, okay, well he some baked in regression. It's
he's been one of the low end. And I kept
like writing him up as a muss start guy because
the volume in the role and all these kind of
things and the talent right now to this point, like

(34:45):
his tackle breaking metrics are pretty bad. The offensive line
is playing bad. I mean, this is just it's sad
to say right now, like not full on like an
offense to avoid, But I don't have any qualms of
sitting anybody in this offense right now. It really just
comes down to, like who are you debating starting Wattle,
Tyreek Hill or Devon.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
H Chan against Let's go to Panthers at Bears. We heard,
you know, rumblings about Roshan Johnson going to be getting
more opportunity in the Bears backfield ended up being DeAndre Swift,
who had the huge game in Week four. Now they
get a tasty matchup against the Panthers run defense. Are
we going to rank either Roshan or Swift aggressively relative

(35:26):
to consensus against a very porous Carolina rush defense?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Debro, I mean, I've.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Got where's he at in consensus?

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Worm sixteen?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Okay, so I'm right with consensus. I think our running
back just kind of falls off a cliff whenever you
get past like the top twelve maybe thirteen guys this week.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Just to be clear, that is that is Swift at sixteen,
Rochean is at thirty two.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I've got Swift right now at RB fifteen. I
think a mid RB two is appropriate. And the thing
I want to highlight with Swift is my bigger takeaway
of last week was not so much like, oh, Swift
is awesome and we're all wrong, Like, okay, fine, he
had a twenty five percent mistackle rate last week, he
still only had one point five yards of a contact

(36:10):
per attempt. That's basement level, like, it's not good. I
think the bigger takeaway from last week was if you
have a running back with a heartbeat, freaking start them
against the Rams. This year, they are a bottom three
run defense. So while like we all consider and talk about, oh,
we're so wrong and DeAndre Swift just needed a kick
in the butt, bro, he got one of the best
run defenses, if not the best run defense in the NFL.

(36:32):
That is the get right elixir for everybody. He has
another really good matchup this week, probably gets the volume
because he played really good last week against a terrible
run defense. But if anything, trade away DeAndre Swift on
your off your teams, Like, I'm totally fine still making
that move. Even though Roshan Johnson's role didn't change at all,

(36:53):
this offensive line is still bad. Swift is still not amazing.
Just start everybody versus the Rams.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Fitz, what do you think about in this particular matchup
against the Panthers.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, My takeaway from that Swift game against the Rams
last week was that the Rams are really missing Aaron
Donald because there was that thirty what thirty three yard
touchdowns run by DeAndre Swift where the middle of the
Rams line parted like the Red Sea, and I was
thinking that wouldn't happen if Aaron Donald were still there.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And this is why FITS is one of the most
accurate rankers in Fantasy with hot takes like the Rams
miss Aaron Donald hey Man.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
So it's real, Like I have Deandre's Swift ranked RB twenty,
So I guess I'm below consensus on him. It's under
most circumstances. Yes, you're starting him, and the outlook is
pretty good against a defense that has given up the
second most rushing yards to running backs and the second
most touchdown runs to running backs. But I am hesitant
to embrace a running game that has only been functional

(37:50):
in one of its four games so far. The Bears
are graded twenty sixth by PFF in run blocking. Swift
had thirty or fewer rushing yards in each of his
first three games. He was RB forty two in a
half point PPR Fantasy scoring going in a week four,
which put him one spot behind Ty Johnson of the Bills.

(38:11):
Now he's up to RB twenty four, So yeah, I'm wary,
Like I don't know if the Chicago running game is
fixed yet or if the Rams defense is just so
broken that it could even make the Bears running game
look good. So, yes, the Panthers run defense is in disarray. Two,
you know, losing Derek Brown on a defense that was

(38:32):
already bad.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
And who else did they lose it? They lost someone
a running back? Was it Mason? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (38:39):
So I like this is this is a shabby run
defense and maybe Swift has another big game, but man,
I'm like not totally buying into a Chicago rushing renaissance.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
So you guys mostly focus on Swift, which is fine.
What are you doing with Roshan this week? He's ranked
RB thirty two in consensus and a FVPR and he's
a range with a lot of number two running backs
in their backfield in this stretch. It's Braylen Allen, Joe Mixon,
who's there because of injury, Tyler Al's year, Roshawn Johnson,
Justice Hill, Antonio Gibson, Alexander Madison. That's RB twenty nine

(39:12):
through RB thirty five. Roshan's right in the middle of that. Again,
Mixon is the only one who's not in RB two,
and obviously he's only there because of injury stuff. So
do we like him better than those backups? Obviously how
he already played. But do we like him better than
those backups? Do we think that's a fair range room
Are we considering starting him?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Or is it more the Bears.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Rush attack has been so bad that we don't care
so much about the matchup de Bro.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
His role didn't change that much. I mean, outside of
getting the touchdown last week he was. I mean the
touchdown saved him. Outside of that, if he didn't get
the touchdown, we probably wouldn't be ranking Roshawn Johnson even
as an RB three. So I mean I would start
Tank Bigsby over him. I got Justice Hill over him.
I got Chase Brown in a terrible matchup over him.
I think he's RB three worthy just because of the matchup,

(39:57):
and maybe he sucks out and gets another touchdown. But
to the other point that to that goes with everything fits,
he was saying, this offensive line for Chicago is still dreadful.
Before last week weeks one through three, the only offensive
line that created fewer adjusted yards before contact per attempt

(40:18):
was the damn Jets, their second worst. So this offensive
line is horrible. So it's tough for me to invest
in a guy who's rolled it and change he got
there based off of a touchdown. Maybe doesn't even get
the reds on work this week considering what Swift did
last week. So I'm okay with Roshan, But like, do

(40:40):
I think that he deserves like definitively to be an
RB three or is a really strong flex play? Probably not.
Like if we get word that Zamir White's going to
be banged up and maybe limited, I'll probably move Madison
above him. I'll probably move a few other guys like
Eckler depending on the b rob News is going to
go above him. So yeah, I mean he he's okay,

(41:01):
but you're really touchdown hunting if you're playing Roshan fits.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah, I mean I think I've got him like ahead
of guys such as Braylen Allen and Tank Bigsby because
of matchup. And I guess the encouraging thing if you
are faced with starting Roshan Johnson is that Khalil Herbert
has been totally a stout of the picture for the
Bears now. So yeah, like you're not excited about starting him.

(41:30):
But if you have a hero RB build and your
hero is Saquon Barkley and he's on by, he might
have very little choice.

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Speaker 2 (43:14):
Let's go to Cardinals at forty nine ers Kyler Murray
and the Cardinals passing game didn't quite have the huge
blow up we maybe expected against a terrible Commanders defense
in Week four. I'm not saying we are panicking, but
scale of one to ten. What is the panic level
on Arizona's offense after that somewhat disappointing performance fits.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Maybe a six. The needle isn't into the red yet,
but it's past the halfway point. Kyler has really only
had one good game this season, and it was against
our friends, the Rams, and you would have thought he
would have put up better numbers against the Lions and Commanders,
who do not exactly have airtight pass defenses.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
So maybe Trey McBride's return from a concussion this week helps,
But McBride only missed one of those three lackluster games
that Kyler had, And if Kyler can't get it going,
it's obviously gonna hurt Marvin Harrison, Junior McBride, maybe even
James Connor because they're not going to be scoring as
many points or getting, you know, the nice, long, sustained

(44:19):
drives you want to see. Although so far, Connor looks
like a good investment. Two hundred yard games, three touchdowns,
no worries there so far. But yeah, I'm a little
worried about how Kyler has played so far.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
What do you think, Debra?

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Yeah, I talked about this out on x. The other day,
Kyler Stands kind of came for me and said that
I was trolling them and stuff. I was just like, look,
I'm just presenting facts, man, Like Kyler has not been
good for MISS the season. Outside of the RAMS. Kyler Murray,
outside of the RAMS week is averaging thirteen point three
Fantasy points per game. You take away the massive RAMS game,

(44:54):
and that would be good for QB twenty four in
the season, and I'm not usually Oh well, it's games.
Let's take away his best game, bro. Yeah, Okay, he's
had other opportunities versus beatable secondaries, and he's looked very pedestrian.
That it's it's it's a fact, okay. Like even if
you take away just okay, fantasy scoring in general, outside

(45:16):
of thirty seven qualifying quarterbacks twenty first ten yards per attempt,
he is has the fourteenth highest off turf target rate.
So he's not accurate, he's not playing well. The rushing's
not even saving him. I'm not saying it's full blown,
like okay, bells and whistles and panic mode and all
these kind of things, like he's got some get right

(45:38):
matchups over the next few weeks. Like I'm sorry to
cover your ears, FITZI, but he gets the Packers next
week and their secondary is not amazing, So maybe that's
a get right game, or maybe that's just a huge
James Connor week. But yeah, I'm kind of worried about Kyler.
I think a lot of people are just automatically thinking, Okay,
well plug and play QB one, fire him up, let's go,
And I'm like, uh, I mean, there's a lot of

(46:01):
other guys in that QB one realm that you might
be a little bit better off playing than Kyler Murray.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Can you put a number to it? One to ten?
Panic level?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
He looks terrible again this week. It's give me about
a seven and a half. I'm at about a six
and a half right now.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Speaking of the Packers, let's go to our next key question.
We know Jayden Reed is good. How much do we
like the other guys though, D'antavian Wicks, Romeo Dobbs, Tucker
Craft with Jordan love Back and also no Christian Watson fits.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I'll start with you as the Packers guy.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah, we like all of them. Against the Rams, it's
the Rams. This seems to be a running theme of
this show. Dantavian Wicks led all NFL receivers in air
yards last week with two hundred Tucker Craft six for
fifty three in a touchdown. Romeo Dobbs hasn't given us
a big game yet, but would It's surprising anyone if
he had a seven catch, one hundred yard game against

(46:59):
this Rams d defense.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Probably not.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
The Rams are thirty first in DVOA against the pass
they've given up or are giving up a league high
nine point one yards per pass attempt, no one else
giving up more than eight point five, and their opponent
passer rating is one hundred and twenty two point seven,
which means that pretty much everyone they face every quarterback
looks like a mashup of Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and

(47:25):
Todd Brady. So yeah, I mean like, I think it's
gonna be a good game. Of course, some of the
stats from last week are skewed because the Packers dug
themselves a twenty eight nothing hole and had to throw
like crazy to try to catch up. But still, man
like against the Rams defense, all these guys look like
attractive fantasy plays for Week.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Five, We're we're ranking Wicks ahead of Dubs, right like
well ahead, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, Deebra, I know that you have been a big
Tucker Craft fan for a while, so I want to
get your thoughts on him. Also the receivers and just
how you know aggressive. We were ranking all these guys
this week, said when.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
They drafted a man, when they drafted Tucker Craft, and
Luke Muskrave I said, this is the Hayden Hurst and
Mark Andrews situation, and Tucker Craft is Mark Andrews, not
Hayden Nursed. Yeah, love him man. The fact that he
has continued to ball out, I think it's it's very telling,
and I love a win. Coaching staffs when they throw
draft capital and stuff out the window and they say, look,
you you're the better player. You're playing better, so you're

(48:25):
the starter. And that's what Tucker Craft has done. He
proved himself last year. He's a top twelve tight end
for me rest of season. And this week, yeah, it's
it's basically this week is start every packer that you got. Man.
I'm extremely high on don Tavian Wicks, like I've got
him as a top twenty four wide receiver. Maybe I'm
I'm over the moon with him. But like, I think
this game is going to absolutely shoot out. You have

(48:49):
two defenses on both sides that can allow points in production.
I think this is a huge get because we haven't
seen a massive game from Josh Jacobs yet. Did you
just see what DeAndre Swift did to this run defense?
Just Jacobs is going off this week.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Man.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
The only thing that keeps the wide receivers from going
off is Jacob's having himself a freaking day.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Just to clarify, Debro comparing Tucker Craft to Mark Andrews,
you meant that as a compliment.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Oh yes, not not rude. Oh that's far but true.
Not to parentheses, not twenty twenty four Mark Andrews.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Every other year of Mark andrew Tucker Craft is Mark
Andrews parentheses derogatory.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I do appreciate the clarification because it's.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Needed, especially because I actually, I actually I'm starting Craft
over Andrews in a Dynasty league this week, although part
of me is wondering if the Kyle Pitts breakout this
week is a sign that maybe tight Ends are coming
back and should get off get off Mark Andrews.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, maybe they're going in the right direction. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I suppose, by the way, Jane Reid inside the top
six amongst swide receivers, because that's why we're not really
messing him, because that would be like I said, we
know he's good and uh an obvious start. But yeah,
this is a smash game for the Packers for sure.
Before we get to the key question for Sunday Nights
Cowboys at Steelers matchup, I want to ask you guys
about your Uber East Sunday Night Meals of the Week debro.

(50:20):
What must Order food gets you reaching for your Uber
Eats app for great game day deals when you think
of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Oh, dude, that that comes down to, Uh, it's easy.
The one on one for me is Parogi's, Dude, It's
it's Parogi's. I was very sad and I'm gonna throw
this out here, not only for Pittsburgh, but I'm staring
at you, Canton. When we went to the Fantasy Football Expo,
I was very sad when we went to the hotel
and they had taken Parogi's off of the menu. So

(50:48):
I definitely got to get my fix. If I'm thinking
about Pittsburgh, it's got to be Parogi's, and it's either
going to be from Parogi's plus or cop out Parogi's.
They just fantastic man fit.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
You mentioned Perogis as well when we were talking about this,
but you've got another choice too.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeah, I mean Parogi's. I'm from Milwaukee, big Polish population,
like h Perogis. I'm all about the Progies, but it
is a void in my life that I have never
had a Primante brother sandwich with the like pastrami, with
the French fries and the Coleslaw right on the sandwich.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Like, I am all about that.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
I need to fix that and get myself to Permanty
Brothers or or have Uber Eats from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I have had Permanty Brothers before. I've been to a
couple of Pirates games in Pittsburgh, just going up to
see the coolest baseball stadium, and I've gotten Permanty Brothers,
went up there.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
It is good. It is good.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I'm not gonna like say it's the all time greatest
sandwich I've ever had, but it was very good and
I would I would definitely recommend it. I am going
to protest the fact that we didn't start this until
the week after the Ravens were hosting Sunday Night Football
and say that last week it would have been krab
Cakes for me. You guys already picked the good Pittsburgh one.
So I will look backwards and say in week four,
if we were already doing this for uber each.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
In Baltimore, I.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Can't start off with a Pittsburgh Baltimore one.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
So there you have it.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Our Uber Eats Sunday Night meals of the week. We
got Parogi's, we got Primancy Brothers. Last week it would
have been Krabcakes. Uber Eats has the best game day
deals all season long. Order now for game day all right,
in this matchup an interesting matchup for Sunday Night football.
Justin Fields typically does run more. It feels like as

(52:30):
the season goes along, he's now coming off his best
game of the year to rushing touchdowns in that one.
How high are we ranking him this week against the
Cowboys or do we think it's the Steelers running back room,
namely Najia Harris, who will take advantage of this Cowboys
run defense debro.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
I've got Justin Fields at QB six right now. I
think the conversation for him starts at QB five. I mean,
he's just However, we want to slice this guys, he's
gonna run, us is not gonna be able to bring pressure.
Their entire pass rush is basically gone right now. Fantastic
single high matchup for George Pickens and Pat friarm Youth.

(53:10):
So whether he's gonna run, he's gonna throw the ball,
it's a fantastic or he's gonna sit in the pocket
and then just carve up a very I'm not gonna
say overrated, but this is not the secondary we thought
we were getting, or at least to the skill level
and shut down potential entering the twenty twenty four season. Yeah,
so all things fields for me this week, man.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Fit's what do you think? Where are your ranking fields?

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I fields QB seven, but I would not have any
complaint with him being at QB five or QB six.
I've Nijee Harris ranked running back seventeen.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
It is a good.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Setup for both guys, and Deebro talked about it. With
no Micah Parsons or Tamarcus Lawrence for the Cowboys, their
pass rush has just been wiped out. Probably no Jalen
Warren or Cordero Patterson for the Steelers, so it's pretty
much gonna be a the Nause show for the Pittsburgh
Running Game. How exactly is it going to look? Worm

(54:05):
that I cannot tell you. You are asking me to
light a lantern and crawl around inside the headspace of
Arthur Smith, and I don't know what I'm gonna find.
Cave drawings of a game plan that has a bunch
of bunch of manufactured touches for Darnell Washington and Calvin
Austin the iid do not make me go splunking down there, worms,

(54:28):
I don't. I don't know how it's gonna look. But
Justin Fields and Najie Harris are both attractive plays.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I didn't think we were going to get to spurlunking
in Arthur Smith's cranium. That is that is I do.
I do love the idea mental image that is one
hell of one.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I do love the idea that his playbook is like
drawing on gaves.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
That was that was fantastic fingerpaint.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You have to know hieroglyphics to read his playbook. All right,
Let's go to the last question on the slate here
Saints at Chiefs Monday night football.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
This is an easy one. Who is it that will
step up in Rashie Rice's absence. We saw Travis Kelcey
last week, you know, after Rice went down seven catches
eighty nine yards, his best game of the season. So
it will be Travis Kelcey. Will it be Xavier Worthy
highly Tweder rookie had some explosive plays. Or is it
door number three? Is it someone else, whether it's a
running back, whether it's a lesser known receiver, whether it's anybody,

(55:21):
whether maybe the answer is nobody steps up in his absence?
How are you approaching this without Rashi Rice debro.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
It's gonna be Travis Kelcey. He's a security blanket. He's
gonna be the number one option for the Chiefs offense.
So I mean you're you're also facing an Orleans Saints defense.
It's given up the seventh post receiving arts, the tight ends.
So I think Kelsey's gonna be the go to. And
I'm really kind of curious how much of the yards
of the catch stuff that Xavier Worthy picks up and

(55:50):
what that role looks like Like, I think Kelsey probably
rolls into that Rashi Rice role, But I'm wondering if
because Xavier Worthy was quietly a really good run out
of the catch guy in Texas like top twenty and
multiple different seasons and Yack per reception, So I think
he picks up part of that. But the number one
guy for Mahomes is going to be Kelsey moving forward,

(56:10):
especially in this matchup.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Fitz, do you agree?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Are you still thinking that, you know, maybe kind of
the long term, they might still want to save Kelsey
to agree to a degree for January and it ends
up being Worthy or someone else. By the way, Rice
is officially on IR as of the time we're taking this.
No announcement about you know, long term, like if this
was truly an ACL or after the season or anything,
but he is on IR officially.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
So Deebro covered it pretty well, like I don't think
you can spare Kelsey with the situation they're in right now,
and Deebro, I think covered it pretty well for week five.
But long term, worm you mentioned door number three, I
think you have to at least knock on door number
three for the long term, which maybe is considering a trade.

(56:55):
Like we saw Kelsey step up last week, but how
can you lean on a thirty five year old tight
end this hard for a full season? And by the
way Travis kelce thirty six on Saturday. Happy Birthday, Travis Kelcey.
But this has to be so frustrating for Chiefs GM
Brett Viach. They won the title last year even though

(57:16):
they were seriously under manned at the wide receiver position,
and Veach goes out and signs Hollywood Brown draft Savior
Worthy in the first round. Hollywood as a season ending injury.
Never plays Worthy nice addition, but he has not He
hasn't had more than five touches in any game this year.
Like I don't know if he's cut out to get

(57:37):
ten or eleven targets every week, like he is more
seasoning than main ingredients. Then you lose a guy who
was a main ingredient, Rashee Rice. I mean, if Patrick
Mahomes is the stake in this offense, Rashee Rice was
the mash potatoes. Who is going to step up with
Rice out? Like Justin Watson, Juju Smith, Schuster, Nicole Hardman,

(57:59):
Sky Moore, Like they're just not appealing options here. So
still some optimism that the Rice injury isn't a serious,
like really long term thing, maybe four to six if
they're lucky, But don't you think Veach is at least
making some calls these days. And I know there's been
talk about the Chiefs requiring Tyreek Hill. I don't think
that's gonna happen because of the financial commitment Miami still

(58:20):
has with him. But what about Deontay Johnson who is
on a one year deal with the Panthers, a team
that is not going to the playoffs and could really
use draft picks.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
I was gonna ask yet, Deontay Johnson, Amari Cooper, DeAndre Hopkins?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Is Johnson? Is he your favorite?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (58:36):
I just think he makes the most sense as far
as what like a guy who could be a high
volume pass catcher right away and a team that simply
isn't going anywhere and doesn't need him.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Dee ro, do you have kind of a top choice
that you'd like to see the man?

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I'm gonna shout out Joe on this one, and I
hate to do that, but I'm gonna do that because
I'm not going to take credit for this, But Keenan
Allen makes so much sense on both different sides, Like
the Bears aren't going any like Okay, fine, if you
want to say the Bears are going anywhere or not
this year, they don't need Keenan Allen to definitively, you know,
prove or disprove the evaluation of Caleb Williams. You still

(59:12):
have Dj Moore, you still have romadoons A. I think
En plus Keenan Allen is still only on that one
year deal, Like, he makes so much sense for Kansas
City and a player that like they know him quite well,
they've played him in multiple years and he fits that
rashid rice like he could play outside, could play inside.
The versatility, giving open and being a guy that is

(59:35):
a trusted veteran like Keenan Allen makes the most sense
to me.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
It makes sense as a fit. It would be weird.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I know it's a business and he's already not in
La anymore. It would be weird after sing him with
the Chargers for so long to see him in Chiefs Red,
But it's nature of the ning.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I would love to see Keenan Allen get a ring.
Talk about a guy who's been on so many up
and down teams that deserves to enjoy the fruits of winning,
like Keenan Allen and getting a ring.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Dude that neither you guys mentioned, and maybe there's reasons
for it. You know, particular the fact that they're Indivision.
But the big name on the trade block right now
is DeVante Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I don't see what happened on the Raiders, Yeah, I
mean in division money and why. Yeah, I don't see
it happening. I think Devonte is is Jets or bust baby.
I think that's where he's at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, we'll wrap up there. Thank you everybody for tuning in.
Best of Lucky in your Week five matchups. Hopefully it
goes better than Debro's prop bets did on Thursday Night Football.
For Devro and Fits, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thank you everybody
for tuning in and we'll see again next time. Thanks
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